Wednesday, February 20, 2008
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What's the Quickest Way to Rally Conservatives 'Round McCain?
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Posted by:
Mary Katharine Ham at
10:40 PM
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A sandbagging from the NYT of just this skeezy a nature.
This doesn't reflect badly on anyone but the Times, as far as I'm concerned. The innuendo and full-on craptastic nature of the lede alone is enough to damn any actual facts that follow, which are few and far between.
I'm not even going to pull the passage for further circulation, but unnamed sources think there might have been a sex scandal but aren't really sure, which may or may not have been connected to an ethics scandal that they're not even sure existed, the evidence for which all comes from eight years ago, and which naturally warrants dredging up the details of an actual ethics scandal for which McCain was punished and has duly apologized and seen-the-light for incessantly since it happened, ahem, 20 years ago.
And, that's the strongest they've got. They put it right up front. Reverse pyramid, as they call it in the biz.
If I had turned this load of crap into a journalism professor at the University of Georgia, I would have failed the assignment.
Let's check out some of the piece's most ridiculous moments. Weasel Word Alert 1:
But the concerns about Mr. McCain’s relationship with Ms. Iseman underscored an enduring paradox of his post-Keating career. Even as he has vowed to hold himself to the highest ethical standards, his confidence in his own integrity has sometimes seemed to blind him to potentially embarrassing conflicts of interest. Anytime a reporter tells you that something "underscores" an enduring problem a Republican public official has, he is telling you what he has long thought to be that official's problem, and furthermore that he has longed to tell you about his unique insight, and has just happened upon a flimsy pretense for imbuing you with his great knowledge. Say thanks!
What about an unflattering 20-year-old quote about the old scandal, since we're talking about scandals anyway, huh? Oh, and since the reporter has nothing new or concrete to tell you. Bingo!
“He is essentially an honorable person,” said William P. Cheshire, a friend of Mr. McCain who as editorial page editor of The Arizona Republic defended him during the Keating Five scandal. “But he can be imprudent.” Oh, and then the reporter will rehash the entire old scandal because it's tangentially related to the flimsy allegations he raised in his flimsy lede by virtue of the fact that both stories serve to smear a man with very old mud. I don't think there will be any more to this story. I think this is all they have.
Sleazy, transparent hacks.
Allah and Matt note that the publishing of the piece came under pressure from TNR's crack reportorial staff.
Sleazy, transparent hacks leading the sleazy, transparent hacks, I think they call that.
John, you must have left that protective media halo on the Straight Talk Express. Yikes.
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That's why when THEY endorsed McCain & attacked Mitt Romney Conservatives should have taken notice.
WAKE UP people...the left wing nuts CHERRY PICKED our candidate! .............
Okay which is it? Is the NYT's a left wing commie rag that no one reads or listens to or is it so all powerful that it is capable of picking your right wing candidates for you over your objections???
Sorry, the voters in many, many primaries and caucuses chose senor McCain, not the late endorsement of the NYT. you folks are funny. |
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Heads up head-in-sand crowd! First of all, McCain isn't electable. No GOPer is and that's a fact. Look at the numbers sweetheart if you don't believe me. The GOP is imploding.
But really, have your Christian "values" been muddled, MKH? Is it truly the NYT that is the bad guy, rather than the philandering old coot you want to rally 'round? Remember, Hothead left his long-suffering first wife to be with Trophy Cindy - it's not a stretch that even trophies can lose their appeal once the egotistical powermongering of certain politicians allow their roving eye to rule the only heads they think with (and not the one on their necks)
It's quite appalling to watch the rightwing continue to rally around the exposed hypocrisy in their ranks - and the exposed rot. |
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To tell us how electable McCain is?
Go DNC Joe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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One more reason to stop worrying and learn to love the senior senator from Arizona!
'Couldn't get the trackback to work for my post citing yours, "Since it was in the New York Times, I don't take it at face value":
http://sisu.typepad.com/sisu/2008/02/since-it-was-in.html
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Make it a third commentator agreeing with Spidey. As Pasadena Phil correctly notes, Sen. McCain should drop out as soon as possible and endorse Mr. Romney. Mr. Romney is exactly the kind of candidate the Republican Party deserves to be its nominee in November! |
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For the sake of party and country, McCain should unite the party by declaring that he has dropped out of the race and has awarded his delegates to Romney. I am astonished that all these conservative-bashing RINOs at TH are now expecting us to ride in to the rescue for their liberal Trojan horse candidate. You guys made your bed, now lie in it. |
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I agree with the commentators that the NYT story is a bit thin. I see the hands of counsel to prevent Sen. McCain from suing. There are likely missing details that will come out in the near future the add some meat. That said, however, I for one find the story to be a big yawn. It is very well known in Conservative circles that Sen. McCain had an affair in 1979. Married to his first wife, Sen. McCain had an affair with a beautiful 25 year old woman who was very rich. He divorced his first wife, married the young woman, and used her money to start his political career. If the story in the NYT is true (and note that Sen. McCain's response to the story is as thin as the story itself -- hmmm), the purported affair is consistent with his past behavior. In short, Sen. McCain believes in "family values" as much as some other former candidates (Guiliani, Thompson, etc.) |
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Fox News was speaking to a former staff member who said if something like this was going on, he & other staff members would have heard something but didn't. Until it's proven, I will believe McCain over NY Times. |
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To Country before Party: When Obama's term is up we will be BANKRUPT and a THIRD world country!!! |
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I don't really care about this story, whether it's true or not. Given his spectacular and cavalier political betrayals over the last 8 years, it wouldn't surprise me if it was true. However, as the only thing that would cause me to vote for McCain is him arriving at my house with about a gajillion dollars in a bag, this story will not affect how I vote in this election. I just think it's a good preview of what we're going to see once the democrats get their own candidate sorted out. I imagine you McCain supporters are a little mortified to have the Times turn on you so soon; the times is real big with those lefties and center moderates that you desperately need to replace the 'wingnuts' who won't vote for McCain. Well, enjoy dealing with your nonscandal. Who knows, maybe you guys will pick up some voters from this little kerfuffle, bigsheep(aka bigkam). I hear parts of the democrat party like it when their candidate bones every woman in site. They call it 'saving the constitution'. You might actually not want to deny this story...it could be exactly what you need. If the woman is hot, get her picture out there. Trust me..you'll get a ton of votes..and in 10 years or so Cindy McCain could run for President on his infidelity. Then you can be just like the democrats. Game set match. I win again. :D |
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As a Senator, McCain no doubt felt it necessary to TRY to suck up to Pinch. Good thing he learns this lesson while his short fuse can do no harm. It's "Who Do You Trust?" or, better yet, whom do you trust less. John McCain gave up lining the bottom of cages when he was released from POW camp; NYT still does it every day.
Now if the MAV could just hold his nose and bury the hatchet with Rush (whose hand is already headed toward his schnozz -- the only way to go). |
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Certainly, my post wasn't for all of the posters--just the usual suspects. People claiming he should "step down" and that by getting them to shelf the story in the fall, the McCain campaign wasn't just trying to protect their candidate from a slanderous hit-piece--those sorts of comments are idiotic. But I do appreciate thoughtful, intelligent comments, of which yours are almost always included. |
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In 2001 he formed the "Reform Institute" inorder to receive donations from George Soros and Teresa Kerry(John Kerry's wife). Juan Hernandez became his "Hispanic Outreach Director". Arianna Huffington of the "Huffington Post" has served on the "Institutes Advisory Board" since it's creation.
These are not the actions of a CONSERVATIVE! For this site to continue to support John McCain, only confirms that it's leadership has absolutely no PRINCIPLES, or are ignorant of ideologies! Because the GOP now stands for "Gutted Our Principles", I assume it's the first? |
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McCain Campaign Banked on Taxpayer-Funded Bailout
Mr.Clean not so clean?
TPM-As The Washington Post reported on Saturday, John McCain’s campaign struck a canny deal with a bank in December. If his campaign tanked, public funds would be there to bail him out. But if he emerged as the nominee, there’d be no need for public financing, since the contributions would come flowing.
It’s an arrangement that no one has ever tried before. And it appears that McCain, who has built his reputation on campaign finance reform, was gaming the system. Or as a campaign finance expert who preferred to remain anonymous told me, referring to the prominent role that lobbyists have as advisers to his campaign, “This places McCain’s grandstanding on public financing in a new light. True reformers believe public financing is a way to replace the lobbyists’ influence, not a slush fund that the lobbyists use to pay off campaign debts.”
READ MORE
http://controlcongress.com/uncategorized/mccain-campaign-ba nked-on-taxpayer-funded-bailout
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That's why when THEY endorsed McCain & attacked Mitt Romney Conservatives should have taken notice.
WAKE UP people...the left wing nuts CHERRY PICKED our candidate!
They were affraid of Romney...his optimistic outlook & goals for America would have been a huge challenge. Unattackable for Conservative & Reagan Dems. McCain reached over so far & for so long that now he's having to reach over to the Republicans...& they love it.
I don't believe McCain had an affair...but get ready Republicans...the smear begins!!!
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i think you posted on the wrong entry. So far the comments have been overwhelmingly about the NYT being a "commie rag" and/or how we all knew this would happen. I've read only a few comments about McCain's character in regards to the NYT article. The point is, we don't care what a newspaper thinks about McCain's character or lack thereof - we already are familiar with him. Nowadays, a sex scandal only enhances your political chances.
If you're a Dem/lib like McCain, that is;) |
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The NYT is a commie rag, that never prints anything we conservatives should take to heart--until they print something that fits the wingnuts' warped sense of reality and agenda. If any of you bothered to read the story, you'd see it's nothing but conjecture and innuendo--but apparently it's enough to convince some of you that he's absolutely guilty without any hard evidence? Give me a break people. This pure hatred is what will be destroying the conservative movement, not John McCain. Many of you should be ashamed of your comments, but I personally think that most of you are too far gone to even realize how stupid you sound in this thread. |
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And throw his delegates to Romney for the sake of the party. We don't need the politics of sleaze at a time when the party's brand is already low from scandal.Be a real hero senator and step aside!! |
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MKH, we don't care WHAT the NYT prints. We know it's inaccurate or slanted waaaaaay Left so we save time by ignoring it. It cracks me up when you media types breathlessly report to us ham-n-eggers what Chris Matthews, the NYT, an old columnist, or some new bearded intellectual says about ANYTHING. We have suspected for some time and we have known for sure since the mid-90's that Dem/libs run the Old Media and that they have been lying to us since about 1930.
btw- PC explained it best. We already KNEW the NYT would turn and bite McCain as soon as it was safe to do so.
Where's your good buddies now, Maverick? |
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"If I had turned this load of crap into a journalism professor at the University of Georgia, I would have failed the assignment." - MKH
True, but if you'd delivered the same load of crap to your professor at the Columbia School of Journalism, you'd have gotten a job at the NYT! |
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The Big Mick wrote;
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"The fastest way to rally ME around McAin't is to Vince Foster him. I'll be glad to join the line piszn on his grave!"
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So, you want John McCain to kill himself ?
...and then you'll urinate on his grave ?
Well, it would be too easy to just call you, "psycho."
Sounds like you have a little more in common with the Jihadists than you realize.
Aw, your poor Mother---her heart must be broken.
Does she know you're online at this hour ? |
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The Big Mick wrote;
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"At least with Hillybama's Socialism Straight there is the chance and hope America will choke on it and puke it up before the Fatal Dose is absorbed."
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That's really patriotic of you---you want your country to 'choke.'
Are you one of those guys who allows his child to burn his hand off in order to 'teach' a lesson about playing with matches ?
The war against Islamic Jihad and multiple nominations to the Supreme Court are too important to play around with.
Besides, 1996 was supposed to be the year of 'revenge' for the '92 election---and how did that turn out ?
We have a name for people who are cheering for Obama to win the White House; we call them D-e-m-o-c-r-a-t-s !
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I ain't gonna be ypimped to the McChurian Candidate by the Establishment Machine Party Bosses (EMPBs) of the Gilt Bird Cabin Conservative Free GOP. Never. Don't matter what Mac says--the back stabbing he's already DONE damns him. Don't matter who the VP is, COULTER couldn't make ubercommiequeer Kerry's VP govern as a Conservative!
As I said above, I ain't going one more step down the McSame "follow the moderate" road the EMPBs have herded me down to the very brink of Socialism.
The fastest way to rally ME around McAin't is to Vince Foster him. I'll be glad to join the line piszn on his grave!
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Heck NO they ain't remorseful! They got EXACTLY what they wanted, RIGGED the system to GET!!
Somebody who could NOT for love nor money or contortionist flip flop, run as an ANTI-Amnesty Candidate! McKennedy CAN'T go there!
Now what does it tell you that they wanted the ONE candidate who COULD NOT run on THE WINNING ISSUE where Hillybama could be triangulated on the WRONG side of 70% of the electorate--Immigration!
And consider this--they DELIBERATELY manuvered to ASSURE they got an OLD Nixon vrs a Young Black JFK! Dole the lesser vrs Mrs. Bill Clinton--run a losing play AGAIN?
A grumpy old man against the tide of youth, hope and change. Real winner there.
Could it be the RNC would rather LOSE than RISK an Anti-Amnesty Candidate?
And now they (and some of their McShills here on TH) are going after Coulter and the Radios to marginalize them--and who led the charge AGAINST shamnesty?
See a pattern?
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did you mean "ignorant and MISinformed hard right wing." Aside from the fact that your linear political model is not only outmoded, but was false and misleading from the first, don't you think "ignorant" smacks more than a triffle of bigotry?
Yours doesn't really count as a McScuse cause your a Labamaba Dancer, but if it WERE a McBeech Flying Fig Leaf it would be a McBFFL8--Classic Spouse Abuser Phrases."
mick
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After 20 years of backstabing, adultery, infidelity, unfaithfulness, Power Drunkenness, Financial Irresponsibility, Psychological and Verbal abuse, and now abandonment, I'll be dhamed
if I am going to let the Establishment Machiine Party Bosses (EMPB's) of the Gilt Bird Cabin Conservative Free GOP ypimp me to The McChurian Candidate!
I served my change of registration to Independent papers--consider it a divorce!
I regard McAin't as Socialism Lite to Hillybama's Socialism Straight. Mac the Knife (Alan Keye's points out he's stabbed EVERY major Conservative group) is another step down the McSame old "follow the moderate road" down which the EMPBs have HERDED us every since The Gipper left office, the McSame road that has brought us to the BRINK of Socialism.
At least with Hillybama's Socialism Straight there is the chance and hope America will choke on it and puke it up before the Fatal Dose is absorbed. NO Such chance with Mac. His is the slower poison that accustoms the victim, as we have been being accustomed by the EMPBs since Reagan, till Death is inevitable, killing all the more surely for being slightly slower.
Hillybama is the lesser of the two evils and it is my duty as a Conservative to the Republic to vote for her and hope America hurls.
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Just when I thought I had my Catalog of McScuses used by the McBeeches as Flying Fig Leaves all cataloged as to type and Model here comes Der Hamnster with a new one that might screw it up!
I have now cateloged 8, count em, 8 different McBeech Flying Fig Leaves (McBFFLs)contained in 2 models. Check it out on my brand spankin new blog somewhere on Th.
There is the McGOPL's (GOP L(iberal) Menu Model
McBFFL 1 being "Better than the Queen Whopper or the Labamaba Burger!" Emphasizing Brand Loyalty and the all but 15% (albeit a VITAL 15%) Conservative All America Beef Warleader of the Big Mac and Mc4/5s Pounder. Unfortunately something "only" 15% Dog Sheite is still UNEDIBLE!
The Other Model is the Abusive Spouse Model where you get "You're sleeping with that Rush Guy!" and "I'll Change" (the Veep ploy) and "You're nothing without us", "you'll starve"
and "you have no place else to go!" This one is popular with the "get the Radios and Coulter" wannabes and Inside the Beltway party hacks (for that matter was it MK Dhamnation who assured Oh?Really? that "Conseravtives" would "rally" around The MacChurian Candidate?") desperate to retain their A-list party invites. In fact they sound so MUCH like commiequeers that it suggests where their true affinity lies. That and "the dead hand of history FRIES us" (also on McGOPL's menu) full of dire warnings, like McBeth's ghosts, of what will happen if we don't back Mac the Knife.
Der Hamnster's is new--McBFFL 9 perhaps? Vote for Mac cause the MSM are out to get him and the enemy of our enemy is our friend--sorta.
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This is incredible. I guess people will not defend anyone because they hate the candidate so much.
Here we have a 10 year old story, and not one credible link to an affair. Both parties deny it. The quotes from people say they thought they were too close so they told her too beat it. And oh yeah he wrote a letter two years before not even about the decision.
McCain spiked it when he found out for obvious reasons.
But of course we have to keep hating the man enough to add our own innuendo. |
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McCain is the only one who can beat Bubba's ball and chain, we were all told at the start of these primaries. Looks to me like Osama is doing a pretty good job. Maybe Bubba's ball and chain is not liberal enough, so they must have chose McCain over her when they thought she was going to win. Now I take it the Media doesn't love McCain anymore. What a shock!
Looks like we will endure 4 years of change and hope, or is it hope and change, or hope for change. Just send us all your change! |
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Stop reading the New York Times. It is environmentally unsound to read the Times. The amount of trees destroyed for this newspaper is unacceptable. Reduce your carbon output and footprint. Think about the power needed to print the paper, as well as what the arsenic and color in the ads does to the ground water. Also, the carbon monoxide created by the delivery trucks. Beware, it also turns you against your country and your mind to mush.
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Where's the specific denials? Kinda quiet around the McCain camp. More straight B.S from McCain - "I haven't done favors for anyone."
McShamnesty was all about his big real estate development donors here in AZ. The scum sucking business cheats in that industry, which is massive in AZ, thrived on illegals. There may have been no ABSCAM money type of transaction, but there sure are a lot of winks and nods.
Remember Shakespeare's:
"... for He doth protest to much."
Buh bye Johnny, see you in the MSM funny papers. |
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Here in Charlotte, the local talk radio station, WBT 1110, is very anti-McCain. And for months now some of their hosts have been floating this same story, going back to last year when McCain hired Bob Bennett to spike it.
I'm sure tomorrow I'll hear this story quoted and repeated all day long by Larson, Katz and Servatius. |
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With all this promise of change, I would like to see them rein these guys in. They ruin a lot of people's lives with impunity. There should be consequences.
The McCains have seven children, Imagine the damage control. |
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We conservatives are going to rally around McCain because the NYT is doing exactly what we knew they would do once he got the nomination?
Oh yeah, that convinced me.
And McCain getting them to spike the story really instills confidence, too. |
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You mean like a Viagra commercial? |
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You write: "Yet, they were the bastions of truth in their smear against Ron Paul last month. :::Rollseyes:::"
Oh Lord, Vindex. The Ron Paul stuff is based on years of writing UNDER HIS OWN NAME. That wasn't reporting by TNR. That was transcription. There wasn't much room to screw it up. Own the newsletters as you own Ron! |
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Why is it you think this kind of crap will rally conservatives? I'm one and I don't care what means they use to defeat McCain...just defeat McCain! I will not be rallying for or 'round McCain...only fools will. |
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Or you could get him to answer why he blocked any chance at getting back anymore POW's or MIA'S from Vietnam.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBiti-ZbeO0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFM1xqqTX_g |
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. . . that this was leaked by the mccain campaign, in response to suggestions that he is just too old? |
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It's really up to Sen. McCain. If he wants our votes, he has to earn them.
He said he heard us after the last amnesty fight. He heard two things right. We want the border secured and we don't trust them. There apparently was alot he didn't hear.
He hired Juan Hernandez, who represents foreign nationals illegally in our country as his hispanic outreach, instead of reaching out to someone from "You Don't Speak For Me" a group of citizens of hispanic descent who oppose illegal aliens.
He said a couple of weeks ago he would sign McCain/Kennedy if it were put on his desk.
If he wants my vote, there are a couple of things he could do.
1. Publicly dismiss and disavow Juan Hernandez and the Reconquista for which he stands.
2. Apologize for conspiring in secret with La Raza and Ted Kennedy and trying to jam amnesty down our throats.
3. Pledge to veto ANY amnesty bill.
4. Pledge to enforce the laws, including deportation, which is the penalty for illegal aliens.
It's up to Sen. McCain, he can represent the interests of American citizens and uphold the rule of law or he can continue to court the favor of liberals and illegal aliens.
I will not vote for the latter.
Even if endorsed by the New York Times. |
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"TNR's crack reportorial staff."
Yet, they were the bastions of truth in their smear against Ron Paul last month. :::Rollseyes:::
Does anyone even take you people seriously anymore?
"You are a scholar if you agree with me and a scoundrel if you don't."
No wonder our foreign policy is so messed up that we actually support dictators and fund them, only to spend trillions removing them a decade later.
Are you an idiot, or is this on purpose? |
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And McCain we now have. What a surprise that that upstanding beacon of journalistic excellence the NYT only less than 2 months removed from endorsing him is just beginning to empty their bag of goods on him. So you thought an endorsement meant they wanted him to be president?
Buyers remorse anyone? |
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You mean if the NYT was threatening to run a story that you said was untrue, but might hurt your reputation regardless, you wouldn't demand they didn't run it? Come on now, be serious.
I will await details to back the story up. It's flimsy, and if they wanted it to appear to be a hit-piece, then they succeeded. I'm willing to give McCain the benefit of the doubt, considering the NYT is nothing more than a commie rag anymore. |
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"Sleazy, transparent hacks," MKH? I believe you told a network host a few months ago that this type of thing is "the new media," so "get used to it," as you put it. If you can't handle it, to paraphrase you, you shouldn't be in the game.
Second, McCain has been talking about character the last few days. This goes right to the heart of the matter.
Third, if nothing was amiss, why send Bennett to the Times to lobby to kill the story?
There is a new leader in America, his name is Obama, and he'll lead this nation to greatness over the protests and whining of the ignorant and informed hard right wing.
-America comes first
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