All great points. Examples of the government overstepping it's bounds or acting as a monopoly in each case.
It sounds mean, but in a free society the people have the right to discriminate. |
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Why did he wait eight years? |
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Bob: very good question.
Windex: this is not a bad thing, this is a very good thing. Is there any sunshine in your world except for The One? |
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more for this country than most past presidents.
He has protected it against terrorism and has put terrorists on the defensive.
Many of his critics either ignore or have forgotten where this country was on September 12, 2001. Some even sought to justify the attacks of September 11, 2001. |
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undo just about everything that has been done since 9/11/2001 that was implemented to protect Americans........
"We must close Guantanamo Bay".......
that's right......bring that garbage onto our soil so they can have our rights and "not be tortured".....
"torture" at Gitmo consisted of stepping on or flushing a Koran, and some well-deserved waterboarding for the worst of the worst......
If you were a prisoner of the Islamists do you really think they would even provide you with a Bible?.......
and as far as I know, no one drowned during the waterboarding......(darn it!!)
No right thinking American would even CONSIDER closing Gitmo.......
it's perfect......keeps those walking piles of s*h*i*t off our soil while simultaneously thumbing the Castro brothers in the eye.....
noticed I said no "American" would do it.....
Obama is a Kenyan that thinks he is a European.... |
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"One thing we've learned in 8 years is that Pres. Bush does NOT generally work for the American people. In fact, on more occasions than not, he has worked against us and our best interests."
List them.
When finished with that project, please explain what you mean by "cowboy posturings" and "marking the soil." |
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when blatant liberals, "stealthy" liberals and "pretend" conservatives such as Munck & the Cleaner come onto conservative blogs in the ruse of trying to steer us back "to the path"....
they're only trying to "help" us to get our ship righted........
or they're on here spewing blatant liberal bull-droppings.......
if you go on Daily Kos or Huffington Post and try to espouse a conservative point of view, you will be blocked......
you see, no matter how repugnant some of these liberal rantings and propoganda are, at least TH let's you be heard.......WITHOUT CENSORSHIP!!!! |
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foxmustang, you get a 10.0 for hanging those empty jackets up on the coat rack. |
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so Bush added some protection for Americans who profess faith. It was not essential to have this legal protection when the culture wasn't out of play "gottcha" about marriage and traditional values.
History will be objective about President Bush. No president is without fault.
I appreciate that he's kept the US safe during his watch. Thanks, President Bush.
I will show respect towards President Obama even though he didn't get my vote. |
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he was born in the USA even though his last documented citizenship is indonesian. He is also a muslim who believes he is a christian even though his last registered religion in indonesian while being enrolled in school was muslim. Now tell me why any American would elect him to be commander in chief - because the foreign donors empowered him financially to advertise himself as the 'change we can believe in' to give us healthcare, housing and a college education. Hussein is not interested in detaining our enemies, he wants them on our soil to join the sleeper cells and begin the 'underground' or is it 'underweather' revolution. Ayers would be proud for launching his career and I am sure he will be a silent advisor of President Select. |
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I will give our new President-elect EXACTLY the same amount of respect the Dems. have given our current President........
that would be NONE!!!!! |
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discussed in such a nonchalant, and dismissive way, is unconscionable. In my opinion ANYONE who could abort a live fetus for ANY reason is an animal, and will surely go to hell. (My opinion of which I am entitled to under the first amendment) more than I can say for those millions of poor innocent lives being ripped from the womb for nefarious reasons, by nefarious people. I should say "Dod have mercy on them" I suppose, but I can't because I don't feel they deserve mercy - they gave none to the babies. |
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"My opinion of which I am entitled to under the first amendment"
That would be the Freedom of Stupid clause.
Good Dod! |
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Everyone except maybe a Liberal idiot would know I meant, GOD!
So you think the freedom is speech is stupid? Are you a Communist Nazi? Perhaps you are living in the wrong country, and should be moving to Russia, China, or any place but here???? I'll personally see you off!! |
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has no legitimate points to make....
so he critiques peoples' spelling......
an empty suit, just like his "Messiah Obama".... |
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ar nevar any tiepo's from hym. Mebbe he don got no suite. |
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"Everyone except maybe a Liberal idiot would know I meant, GOD!"
What, you thought I was praising the Department of Defense (my old employer) when I wrote "Good Dod!?"
"So you think the freedom is speech is stupid?"
Really? You're that oblivious? |
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Ihave better things to do than try and decipher ignorance such as what you post. |
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HE WAITED 8 YEARS BECAUSE HE DID NOT KNOW BARRY WOULD WIN,NOW THAT HE KNOWS PRESIDENT BUSH IS TRYING TO PROTECT THOSE WHO DONT WANT TO TAKE PART IN ABORTIONS!PRESIDENT BUSH IS RIGHT ON! |
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I assume you weren't aware that the tens of millions of women on the birth control pill fit into your category of baby killers.
So are you advocating for a ban on the pill? |
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if a pill kills innocent human beings it should be outlawed, no question about it.
What part of that do you disagree with? |
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Alan Keyes has filed in Ca Supreme Court proving injury as a Presidential Candidate from Obama failing to prove he is a natural born citizen of US...is Petitioning a Stay of California's electoral votes.
...........http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9qQv9UXc......... |
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What is often not discussed in the debate is the concept of "right to an abortion".
People need to understand that if it is a right as proclaimed by Liberals, then the Federal and State governments will be forced to pay for abortions just as they would any other healthcare issue.
So get ready for your tax dollars to be paying for other peoples abortions. |
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My son is a med student , and he has completely ruled out specializing in OB/Gyn because of the lack of conscience exemptions. There is already a shortage of such specialists in many areas because of malpractice insurance rates, what will happen when all prolife people are disqualified? |
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in this election:
1. abortion
2. the border |
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My religion says that fat people are gluttonous and slothful...
but the government won't let me discriminate!
Being fat is a choice!
I thought we were a free country!
PS (not) |
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But try selling that argument to the tens of millions of women on the pill. |
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i think that the majority of the people are already biased against bush so they dont really think about the issues.
i dont see any problem with bush trying to pass this. it stops people with certain beliefs for being descrimnated because of those beliefs. i dont see any trick that he is trying to pull, and he is not trying to discredit obama in any way like some say. |
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Ken, government funding is already spent on abortion clinics. It's just indirect so you don't see it.
Bryce, I got pregnant while on the Pill. The result of that pregnancy is a beautiful, sweet, smart young lady who is sitting about 10 feet away from me. She is a blessing.
Her younger brother is also an amazing kid. Top of his class in math, computer whiz, and so respectful to grownups that even his grandfather tells me how great of a kid I have.
Neither of these children were "planned". But they were celebrated. Did they disrupt my career? Yes. Am I sorry? No.
Eddie, I don't agree that the Pill ends human life. It is supposed to prevent an egg from getting to the area where it can be fertilized by a sperm. The problem with the Pill is that it doesn't always work.
There are better contraceptives available that are almost 100 percent affective, including Depo-Provera, a shot you take every 3 months, which is covered by Medicaid. |
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the womb in a premeditated and cruel act of murder is just slightly different from preventing one from being able to become attached to the wall of the uterus and grow and thrive inside the mother's womb in the first place. Prevention is a hell of a lot different than allow one to live just long enough to become a baby and then kill it. You can't MURDER what is not alive, you Liberal embacile! |
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"You can't MURDER what is not alive"
After conception, the fertilized egg (zygote) is alive, as is the blastocyst that grows from it. By the time it adheres to the uterine wall (or fails to do so) the blastocyst consists of 70-100 cells. And 80% of human blastocysts do not adhere, and do not survive. That's a lot of souls.
For that matter, the egg and sperm are both alive before conception.
"you Liberal embacile!" |
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birth control was bad. Birth control prevents the egg from attacing and forming a fetus. I said that is better than allowing it to grow inside the mother until it is viable and then murdering it, but you idiotic, embacilic Liberals have no heart, no soul, and conscience, and so therefore you would never understand anything that is good, right or decent - so put your opinions about my posts 'to others' (where the sun don't shine,) if you get my drift!! |
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Life begins at conception. Science proves it. But as Pres. Elect Obama has stated, that is "above his pay grade."
In other words, he would rather leave these decisions in the hands of the Gloria Steinem types.
As a woman and mother of two, I am completely rejecting the "feminist" movement of the last 40 years.
The new Feminists are like Sarah Palin-pro-life, pro-male, pro-mom, and not ashamed of our female beauty. Hey, you could pretty much throw out all of what I said previously and just say "Pro-Human."
Much can be done to prevent abortion. Why don't we all get out there and support alternatives? |
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fight these baby killers anyway we can. I am the proud mother of 5 and I have 16 grandchildren, but if I had never had a child, I woould still feel the same. The ten commandments says, "Thou Shalt Not kill, and that definitely means do not kill the innocent in the womb. Anyone who believes differently surely does not believe in God. |
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Do you advocate for banning the birth control pill? |
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the birth control pill! Now address some of my points! |
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That if you are argue for banning abortion to protect life in the womb you would also have to argue for banning the pill since it works in part by preventing the fertilized egg from being implanted in the womb.
Remember, by your measure a ferilized egg is a human being. |
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There are many different versions of "The Pill", but most of them work to prevent egg and sperm from meeting up in the first place, not, as you claim, by preventing implantation of a fertilized ovum.
There are many, many humane forms of birth control. People like Laura and myself wish to promote them.
Perhaps, instead of continuing to fight compassion, you could try doing the same. |
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likes to argue. I think he and others on here are paid to antogonize we Conservatives with empty tripe. No one in their right mind could not see that abortion is wrong. And at the same time no one in their right mind could argue that preventing the pregnancy from taking place in the first place is better than allowing a life to begin and then nonchalantly ending it by violence means. |
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Doesn't mean I don't have one. I repeat, if one argues that abortion is murder because human life begins at conception, the pill, which works in part by flushing potentially fertilized eggs before implantion, is murder.
My point is that your position is not only extreme, but hypocritical. |
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All modern forms of the birth control have 3 modalities. Preventing ovulation, creating a natural spermicide in the case of ovulation, and PREVENTING THE FERTILIZED EGG FROM IMPLANTING IN THE WOMB. |
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petition!!! We need 784,157 signatures before inauguration day!
http://grassfire.org/111/petition.asp |
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petition if I could do it without sending a donation. I am on a fixed income and someone needs to 'fix it' so I can make it stretch to pay all the bills I already have. I can't put out anymore money for anything. |
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After I submitted my name, address, etc. I just skipped the donation page. Obviously they would like to have some donations, but I think they at least need the signatures. |
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"Obviously they would like to have some donations, but I think they at least need the signatures."
I've alerted the national ACORN office. There will be several million additional signatures on that petition in the next couple of days. They're going to start with the Disney characters, then go through all the cartoons they can find; you really don't want to have the same name appear more than a couple of hundred times.
Who knew Spongebob Squarepants was a lunatic right-winger? |
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>In my opinion ANYONE who could abort a live >fetus for ANY reason is an animal, and will >surely go to hell.
What's wrong with abortion?
Abortion is a means of preventing the birth of unwanted children, of which there are way too many in the world. Remember, it is unwanted children who suffer neglect and abuse and end up damaged, crazy and/or criminal. Our prisons and mental hospitals house very, very few people who were wanted and loved as children.
A woman who aborts a fetus because she does not desire to be a mother or lacks the wherewithal to care for a child saves two lives from misery.
Technically, abortion may destroy life, but it is hardly *significant* life. An embryo or a fetus is a preconscious blob of cells that has no claim to existence. There is no evidence that it was implanted by "God," or that it comes equipped with a "soul." A human is a person -- i.e.: significant life -- only when s/he is born alive.
Oh, and one more thing, Laura . . . there's no such thing as "hell," so you can stop worrying about it.
You're welcome.
-Stephen
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and you have religion. That's fine, that's your prerogative. But what's more is you don't even believe in the first principle of the U.S. Constitution which says we all have a right to life!
Who the hell are you to decide which lives are "significant" and which are not? You are one arrogant POS.
Perhaps if the right to life is no big deal to you, then you wouldn't mind sacrificing your own? People like you are a cancer to society - a VERY dangerous cancer. |
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>stephen, obviously you have no morals,
Just because someone disagrees with you doesn't mean they're amoral. It just means that they are correct (and smarter than you.)
>and you have religion.
If you meant that I have NO religion you are dead on. I am free of delusion, thank God.
>you don't even believe in the first
>principle of the U.S. Constitution
>which says we all have a right to life!
The Constitution guarantees the right to life to PERSONS -- not fetuses.
The Constitution also guarantees the right to the "pursuit of happiness." For many women, happiness means being UNpregnant.
>Who the hell are you to decide which
>lives are "significant" and which are
>not?
I am not "deciding," I am opining.
In all of human culture a human life becomes significant when it becomes a person, because that's when that person's STORY begins. When a blob of cells in the womb is flushed, nothing of value is lost.
Only brainwashed, religion-addled morons believe a fetus is a tiny baby, waiting eagerly to meet its mommy.
Considering that children unwanted by their mothers are often abused, neglected and frequently murdered, and end up being society's damaged, its suicides, its crazies and criminals, it is hardly "immoral" to believe it would be better to have an abortion clinic on every street corner than the birth of one more unwanted child.
>You are one arrogant POS.
Sticks and stones. . . .
>Perhaps if the right to life is no
>big deal to you
It's a very big deal -- but only PERSONS have such a right. Globs of protoplasm have no rights.
>People like you are a cancer to
>society - a VERY dangerous cancer.
Apparently, you dislike rationality and sanity. Too bad for you.
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the Constitution says, persons are born. Personhood precedes birth according to the constitution.
The Declaration says all men are CREATED equal, not born equal.
Now resort to slurs and name-calling to try and
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designation. Whether or not something is a unique human being can be scientifically proven.
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Posted by MoniQue earlier.
This can not be posted too many times. Please, as proud Americans we must heed it.
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OBAMA NOT A US NATURAL BORN CITIZEN
FOLKS, AMERICA’S CALLING AND COUNTING ON YOU – SIGN THE PETITIONS ABOVE AND ALSO
PLEASE WRITE TO JUSTICE CLARENCE THOMAS TODAY! It’s not too late!
HIS FAX NUMBER IS LISTED BELOW:
Hey folks don't you think arguing about "obama policies" is a bit presumptuous?
HE'S NOT EVEN PROVED THAT HE'S A NATURAL BORN U.S. CITIZEN! And the truth is HE CAN'T because he was BORN IN KENYA and he doesn't have a certificate of LIVE BIRTH for the State of Hawaii, only a "certification" for FILE purposes only and of which would not even allow a person to get a drivers license.
Here’s Chief Justice Clarence Thomas’ fax# 202-479-2971 write him TODAY - if you don't know what to say, use the letter below as a sample.
http://moniquemonicat.wordpress.com/2008/11/09/%E2%80%A2-si gn-obama-petition/
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"Now resort to slurs and name-calling to try and
justify your apparently infinite self-esteem."
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what proof do you have of when human consciousness begins? |
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I think you are losing it. Are you implying (incorrectly) that I resort to slurs and name-calling?
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writes:
>the Constitution says, persons are born.
>Personhood precedes birth according
>to the constitution.
You are either hopelessly misguided, or a rank liar. There is nothing in the U.S. Constitution to suggest its framers considered personhood to begin prior to birth -- or that they were concerned with the issue at all. The Constitution says nothing about when personhood begins.
It DOES, however, contain the Fourth Amendment, "The right of the people to be secure in their persons," and the Fifth Amendment, that "No person shall be deprived of . . . liberty," both of wich make it clear that women are sovereign over their own bodies, and may do with those bodies -- and anything that may be growing inside them -- whatever they please.
You are hopelessly and absurdly deluded if you imagine you can justify an assault on women's right to abortion by citing the Constitution.
>The Declaration says all men are
>CREATED equal, not born equal.
I take it by your literalism that you do not believe that WOMEN are also created equal.
Be that as it may . . . the fact is that a man is not a man until he is born, and a woman is not a woman until she is born.
>Now resort to slurs and name-calling
Why should I? You have adequately impeached yourself with your own obvious ignorance and dishonesty.
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