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mitts gone we're glad and sarah rocks! mcain will win sarah will follow palin- huckabee 2012!!!!! |
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...she would never step out. Never.
She might serve as VP with her family situation, but POTUS...ridiculous. Now she has lost her built in babysitter Bristol.
Palin is cut from a different piece of cloth than most mothers we know.
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I really resent your repeatedly calling me a liar. I have never once lied on TH and I don't in my personal life either.
You are the one lying about your previous comments, and you don't like me bringing it up.
No matter. I was not the only one who thought Romney was it - practically everyone in the GOP did.
What I didn't want to face was the fact that McCain does not, never has, and probably never will care about what is best for the GOP or conservatives. He showed that with the selection of Palin. He took a risk, and now everyone is being forced to defend it because the thought of Obama makes them crazy - me included.
At this moment, things aren't looking so rosy. There's still time for Palin to step out for the good of the party. I hope she does.
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eddie too. I didn't say she was a bad parent, only that she puts career first. I believe she loves her children, but that her political ambition trumps them. And I also think her family will interfere with her job as VP.
I have no doubt she wants to be pres (what woman in her position wouldn't want to be the first) and that will mean more neglecting of her children.
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..the most hard-core, faithful Mitt supporter on the planet. Both she and QM7-8 always held the same opinion: A woman simply cannot be a good mother of small kids, teens and a DS baby and be a good VP. I share their opinion, but I don't care. I'm not voting for somebody to be a mother.
Maybe because you are Eddie and not Edie, you don't really catch this. A lot of people don't.
There are no "facts" to back this up; it's simply a fact you know or don't know.
The larger question is Palin's psychologoical make-up to be VP or POTUS. Are her tough-girl, risky, maverick, reckless exploits assets or liabilities in national governing?
Which is better? Mitt's bottoned-up, dot all the i's and cross all the t's style? Or Palin's PTL and damn the torpedos? I dunno.
But Bush already has a cowboy, reckless meme. Will Palin's recklessness hurt the story?
BTW: This woman LOVES being front and center. That's why some mothers are feeling queasy: That Palin cares more about fame and glory than actually keeping a close eye on her kids. |
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Romney had a chance to be selected to be VP. That explains her emotion. Just being PC is enough to explain her disregard for the truth. |
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it would not be held against PC if she backed up her mutterings with facts. To accuse Palin of being a bad mother without anything to back it up, is typical PC. She and facts are unfamiliar with each other, just like her and truth. |
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...people, I quite agree. No way, no how can a women be a governor and an effective mother of 4 now 5 children unless the dad is a full-time dedicated Mr. Mom. All of us that have raised or are raising larger than average families know this.
One human being, no matter how energetic or brilliant can only be spread so thin.
Is this to say that she isn't a good VP pick? Time and the polls, will tell. Palin's kids are not our problem. Who governs America is. |
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...a vote-getter, especially among the Christian Conversatives who were not going to go for more qualified people. Today, right after the Sarah announcement, it looks like Mack has dropped 8 pts. in the polls.
I haven't heard the drop analyzed. I suppose it will take some days after the conventon to sort it out.
Get a grip: Palin is not a stay-at-home mom. The story is she left her children 600 miles away in Wasilla, in the care of her husband, while she governed in Juneau. Wags say her husband got bored, went back to the oil fields. With no real home, the son joined the army, the daughter got pregnant and the two other kids were schlepped around between relatives.
Whether or not this is true, the fact remains she is not a traditional mother. The fact that PC might object to Palin's parenting style should not be held against PC: she makes a good case.
Voters needs to decide whether the Mack/Palin package is better or worse than the Obama-Osama/BidenLaden ticket. Keep your eye on the ball. |
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I share your concerns about Palin's decision in light of her baby. Its not a vote changer for me, but it does lessen my respect of her a bit.
I hope she will be a wonderful VP, but its clear she was chosen because she's a she, not that she was the most "qualified", whatever that means for a VP. This could turn out wonderfully for the GOP, I just hope her family can say the same thing. |
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No lies. Just answer why you posted such a questionable statement. You know you said it, and so do a lot of other TH posters.
No bigotry either. Nothing I've ever posted could lead you to believe that. In fact, just the opposite.
It's projection on your part. You accuse others of your own guilty tendancies.
I'm just sepaking what a lot of people are afraid to say, that McCain/Romney was the solid choice and McCain/Palin is a risk. More and more repubs are starting to wonder what is happening and how we are going to move forward. |
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just give up on your bigotry and lies. It is obvious now you only want to hurt the GOP. Since that is your agenda, we can safely ignore your ramblings and your mutterings.
Everyone knows if you could back up your lies, you would. Your being unable to provide evidence of their truth confirms them as falsehoods. |
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You're kidding right? I've read plenty of bigoted remarks from you, including your heartwarming defense of Eugene. Enough said.
Credibility? Care to finally answer your "adult/child sex is not evil? comment from a few months ago?
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McCain/Romney was a solid ticket headed for the White House. Everyone thought so, All McCain had to do was talk issues. Now were defending pregnant teens which have absolutely nothing to do with anything.
McCain/Palin is risky. Period.
Have you noticed that we are not on offense, but in desperate defense mode right now?
Palin excited the base on Friday. Today is another story and a lot of people are starting to vocalize their wonderment at what McCain did. Rove, for one. Krauthammer for another. Serious people are not convinced that a beauty queen hockey mom is exactly what we need when confronted with a world full of serious, complicated issues.
Palin is a game changer, but perhaps not in a postive direction. McCain is a maverick and sometimes it, in fact most of the time it doesn't work out too well for him.
I'm not the only worried one Eddie. |
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get a life. You sound like that other LDS poster Qweenmumof7. She could not put together a coherent thought either. Please do not try and make us believe you are a conservative. No conservative in their right mind would want Obama over McCain as you obviously do. I say that based upon your consistent and nonsensical attacks on McCain.
P.S. You have never read an attack on the LDS from me. Just quit your lying and maybe you will gain some (if only a tiny tiny amount) credibility. I recognize your type of religious bigotry that can justify any lie if it serves your purposes.
If you are going to call people religious bigots, please provide some evidence or we will place your comments where all lies go, into the trash bin along with Romney's candidacy. |
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Romney is history. You use your judgment to run your family and allow Governor Palin to use her judgment to run her family.
If you believe Obama will make a better POTUS than McCain, just come out and say so. If you believe that McCain will make a better POTUS than Obama, act and post like it. |
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wheres the rest of the attack squad? mc and queenmum? romney's not vp because he lacked one very important thing . the ability to connect with large numbers of people .that the cost him in the primarys and his nasty attack ads on mcain ruled him out of vp consideration . palin is able to connect to everyday americans in a way that very few politicians can .she comes across as genuine, not perfect. mitt came across as a ,capable, intelligent, can do kinda of guy, but plastic and phoney .never looked really comfortable with average america . it cost him ,and mcain is not one to forget the cheap shots. time to move on |
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Or she wouldn't have taken the VP job.
Her baby son will grow up without her being there very much. I can't handle that, knowing how much I love being with my DS daughter who is 11. She is the light of my life, and the star of the family. Palin is going to miss a lot of special moments. It bothers me a lot, I can't help it. |
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She smoked pot and was pregnant when she got married. Now she puts career over family.
Sorry, I like traditional values. We used to skewer the dems for their past indiscretions. Now we're defending Palin's?
Hypocrisy run amok. |
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A McCain/Romney ticket was expected and wanted. He was wanted in MI, CO, and NV. The GOP organizations in those states said, "Please! pick Romney!". Key states!
He was winning the all the polls. Rush said he was an excellent choice. Rove, the entire Bush family, most pundits, and all of talk radio wanted him. He was the choice of the base. Most of the GOP delegates were rooting for Romney. The base would have been tickled pink, except a few bigots.
McCain could have gone on and made this election about the leftist ideology and inexperience of Obama. But he went for the game-changer. It has indeed shaken up the race, but no one knows how it will turn out.
I think it was an irresponsible choice and now everyone is stuck defending Palin and her poor daughter, and we're not talking about our superiority on the issues. We're playing defense. |
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This is all a game, it's not about who is the best leader. Romney is sitting on the sidelines right now when he should be the nominee. He is who we need to lead us into the future with Iran, Russia, and a shaky economy.
Not Palin, not McCain, and certainly not Obama. |
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I agree. But the question is whether this all implodes on McCain and whether the base will continue to defend Palin when her record and past is more fully known.
Right now, we don't know how it's going to turn out. The left are already going to far and it will probably backfire.
I just don't like the identity game. Romney was more qualified, period.
Krauthammer thinks Mac made a risky choice, possible ever suicidal. We shall see. |
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PC writes:'...McCain may croak in office as he is already 72 and has had cancer that can cause death. Palin is not prepared to be POTUS or CIC, I don't care how many fish she's gutted or Moose she's skinned.'
ME: I agree that Palin is not "prepared" to be POTUS. In one sense, who is? -- I think most find it to be more than they imagined. (Though she is certainly competent enough to be VP.)
In another sense, there certainly were others who were "more" prepared. But, there are substantial numbers of people who don't vote on policy and experience, but on personal attractiveness (not sexiness), and compelling bio. Palin has that in spades.
Clinton had his aura, though he turned out to be a real scumbag --he had personal magnetism that Bush41 couldn't muster --with all the handlers. (I never bought it. Once he said "never inhaled" --he confirmed he was a BSer. Always thought there was something phony.)
On that superficial level it seems it has become Palin v. Obama this election cycle --with the geezers along for the ride. |
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I am a HUGE Romney fan. I have met him, I think he would be an excellent President or Vice President. However, Romney would not have brought the excitement and energized the base the way Sarah Palin has so far. |
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Always have been. I'm as traditional as any conservative woman can be. (Stay-at-home mother of 5.) Nothing I've ever written could lead you to believe otherwise.
Yes, Palin is more qualified than Obama. So what, that is tnot the question.
The question is whether she is qualified to be POTUS/CIC of Mac croaks or gets ill in office - a very possible scenario. I don't want Palin there because she is entirely unprepared. She has been the gov for less than 2 years, she flip-flopped on the bridge, she has an investigation for abuse of power hanging over her and she has a family that cannot help but be a distraction.
There were more qualified people to choose, including Romney who has a mountain of experience and has studied the issues inside and out for over 2 years. No one is better prepared to lead. McCain could have chosen the solid choice, he went for the identity pick. |
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You said,
"When you judge Sarah for what her daughter did, remember your faith tells you to forgive and to support and love your family when they falter. I don't believe it says to shun them and judge them such as you are doing with Sarah and her daughter."
I didn't judge Palin for what her daughter did! It's none of my business, and I am in no position to forgive anyone! I couldn't care less what her daughter did, and I have no feelings of judgment whatsoever about Bristol. I do feel sorry for her that her mom put her own political ambition above her family. Most moms would respectfully decline in the name of putting their family first. Trig, Piper and the older girls need a mom right now.
I am simply saying that Palin puts her family second. Sarah is NUMERO UNO in her family, make no mistake about it. She ALWAYS puts her career over her family. Just show me an instance where she didn't.
Let's stop saying she's the perfect American woman/mom because she's not.
Palin is the VP nominee because she is a woman who is not a Mormon. Period. McCain couldn't choose the more qualified man because he was afraid of the bigots (like you) and didn't want to go for the 2 old white men ticket.
But Romney is still 1000 times more qualifed than Palin. Yes, I'm mad about that.
Krauthammer said McCain had a solid lead and did not need to take such a risk, even saying it was possibly suicidal. I agree. Romney was the solid pick that conservatives wanted and would have delivered MI, CO, and NV - 3 or 4 key states.
Now we have chaos and instead of talking about the issues. I thought our party was for substance, not identity. We are now no better than the dems. |
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Funny you liberals did not have a problem when Nelson Mandela was elected President of South Africa when he was 76. Actually neither did conservatives. Liberals tried to make the same argument with Ronald Reagan, and failed! Reagan just happened to be the greatest President of the 20th century and one of the greatest ever!
Palin has more accomplishments in her two plus years as governor than Obama has in his three plus years as senator.
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I am a Christian, and I would forgive Obama's daughter or anyone elses for that matter for making a mistake such as this one. You can not know my heart, or anyone elses heart for that matter. You are a Liberal with Liberal views and must hate anyone who does not agree with you. Why aren't you on a Liberal site where you can spew your hatred for Conservatives and get a positive response to it? |
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First, I'm just going by my own experience giving birth th a DS child, my fifth. Every time my water broke, I high-tailed it to the hospital and normally delivered within 2 hours. Maybe Sarah was different, but I sure as heck wouldn't climb aboard a plane for 8 hours.
Rashum - McCain may croak in office as he is already 72 and has had cancer that can cause death. Palin is not prepared to be POTUS or CIC, I don't care how many fish she's gutted or Moose she's skinned. (Although that is kind of impressive!) She's a beauty queen with obvious political ambition. I don't want her as the next leader of my party simply because she is beautiful and portrays herself as the average American woman. She's not. |
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Check them out.Now if you want to hear something really funny listen to P Diddy's comments on youtube.Your party has so much class.LOL You are an acute sufferer of FOPS. |
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Romney. PC, I see that you have now become a judgmental, goody-two-shoes who is going to be critical of whomever Mc cain picked because it was not your perfect, do-no-wrong, Mitt Romney.
When are you going to let that go and support Palin and the party instead of carrying the torch for your Mormon counterpart?
One would think you're in love or something the way you refuse to accept anyone else for Vice President to Mc Cain.
When you judge Sarah for what her daughter did, remember your faith tells you to forgive and to support and love your family when they falter. I don't believe it says to shun them and judge them such as you are doing with Sarah and her daughter.
And speaking of that, when you judge her remember, if you can get past the hypocricy that is, that she WILL be the 'VICE' president, so she can have time to learn all that she would need to know in the event Mc Cain became incapacitated and she would have to take over. No President has ever known all they needed to know going in. It comes with the experience of ON THE JOB TRAINING.
Stand up, be a good Christian, and have the character to give Sarah Palin and her family some slack - as Romney has done. |
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Are you an OB/GYN? Your water breaking doesn't mean you are in labor. You can even have a slow leak, just depending on where it breaks. When my wife's water broke, both times, her OBs were pretty casual about the timeline. It's not the movies where your water breaks and you start freaking out looking for the suitcase and speed 110 mph to the hospital. Has anyone on the left given birth? Also, if you have a special needs delivery, don't you think it may be better to have the baby delivered by the OB who knows the ins and outs of the history? I'm not an OB/GYN. I don't know the answer to that, but logic would tell me that when Palin actually consulted a doctor on the matter that doctor knew more than leftwing haters. We are talking about scandal because this woman scares the beejeezus out of the left. If she was a lightweight, there wouldn't be the effort that is going on now.
My2Cents, I am a stay at home dad taking care of 2 daughters during the day and working at night. They are doing very well, thank you. You get upset when people prejudged Romney due to his faith, I agree that it was wrong, but then you go and prejudge someone because of their family situation. Just take care when stepping off your high horse, don't sprain an ankle. |
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
"Personally, I'd like to know how we're going to deal with Iran, Russia and the economy, and as far as I know Sarah knows exactly ZILCH about those topics."
First of all - we elect Presidents not Vice Presidents and on the Economy, Iran and Russia McCain has forgotten more on those subjects (I am sure you will use that line to make a joke about his age) than Obama will ever know!
McCain wants to make the Bush tax cuts permanent and cut the corporate rate. That causes economic growth, job creations and tax revenues to increase. Obama wants to raise taxes and eliminate the Bush tax cuts. That will cause economic slow down, unemployment to increase and tax revenues to decline.
McCain wants to finish the job in Iraq and taxes the threat of Islamic terrorism and all terrorism seriously. Obama wants to leave Iraq before the job is complete and does not realize how serious threat terrorism is.
As for Russia, McCain came out immediately to denounce their actions against our ally Georgia, while Obama did not know what to say until he checked with his advisors!
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...from Bush Derangement Syndrome to Palin Derangement Syndrome.
Rashum, another good point, except if Bristol had opted for an abortion, they would have been all over her mother's hypocrisy. Only lefty kommies' daughters would draw praise for depriving their unborn of choice via abortion.
But where's their usual "compassion" for pregnant teenagers? Where's their mantra for not picking on the families, a la Chelsea? |
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Palin is not a hero because she didn't abort her DS baby, give that a rest. Since when does not murdering your own child make you a hero?
To my mind, Palin did some questionable things. When her water broke in Texas, she chose to stay and deliver a speech anyway, then flew 8 hours home to Alaska. (What mom would fly during labor?) Then after he was born, she went back to work after only 3 days.
NOt only did she not decide to stay home with her special baby, she is taking on an even more demanding role. She will miss a large part of his development. It's great that her husband is taking care of him, but as a mother of a DS child, I can't imagine choosing to not be there for him, sorry. It's too wonderful, and I wouldn't miss it for the world.
Apparently, Sarah would. And she chose to put a national spotlight on her pregnat teen.
It comes down to judgment, and it seems Sarah is found lacking. It doesn't bode well for the GOP. It's only day 5 and we're not talking issues, we're talking scandal.
Personally, I'd like to know how we're going to deal with Iran, Russia and the economy, and as far as I know Sarah knows exactly ZILCH about those topics. |
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You are right - if Bristol had an abortion the liberals would be saying what a great example she is for young woman who do not interrupt their lives and "punish" themselves with a baby.
They truely are sick! I am enjoying these attacks on Palin backfire!
1) They attacked her experience - then they realized that she has more than Obama
2) They attacked her daughter - saying she is the real mother of Trig
3) They attacked her daughter again - when she announced she is five months pregnant - which makes their previous attack physically impossible
4) They have now posted pictures of another girl underage drinking and saying it is her
Liberals have no shame!
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Wonder if these are broken out in the campaign expense log?
As Obama operatives scour records in Alaska for dirt on Gov. Sarah Palin, they are also seeking embarrassing materials about her husband. And it isn't just the Obama campaign. Several left-wing groups with ties to MoveOn.org have used their network to offer as to $5,000 for damaging employment or personal information about him.
http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=13801 |
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Glad to see you craweld out of your hole!
Were you aware the tall black dude who gave the opening prayer at the RNC convention..... Gasp!
WAS MORMON!
Oh heaven forbid. My heart! My heart! |
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If bristol and mrs Palin are YOUR idea if find upstaning 'christian women' you can have them! I'll take moraly clean for 10, please!
Not EXAMPLES to my daughters, thank you very much. But then, I've seen your other posts while lurking. You are hardly credible on the subject of faith religion, now are you? |
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Oh..... don't tell me that! I'm a CONSERVATIVE woman. I had the career, gave it up because Mom's need to be in the home with the children, whenever possible. Yes, my 17 yr old listens to me, and to the teachings of our church. don't hold up the Palins as a picture of perfect christians. Of course, she does belong to a church that gets to actually decide who's a christian and who is not.... The bigot squad gave us Palin, and now we find the cracks. I say, cut the losses and go for Kasich or Thompson, or Liddy Dole, or Bay Buchannan. Oh wait. not Bay. She's Mormon. Can't have that now, can we?
My adivice for Ms. Palin. Recuse yourself and go back to Alaksa to deal with YOUR FAMILY. You put them in the spot light, and are now crying fowl that your not the pefect family. And pray tell, exaclty where will the Palin family have time to raise this kid? They've apparently done such a fine job with the 17 yr old.
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To people like the Dems and my2centsplus, you are a bad, bad mother because of what your boys did. Actually, the only women that the Dems tolerate and admire are those who have had abortions. |
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look like her to me. But what else can you expect from people whose natural habitat is
the sewer.
Congratulations 2 cents, you are very blessed to have a teenager that listens to you.
Adoption is a very good choice, but Bristol has a family that's willing to help her.
Are you that irate about Planned Parenthoods
indoctrination to sexualize our children via schools and internet are younger and younger ages. My 10 yr. old granddaughter came home from
fifth grade public school, (at least they had the decency to separate the genders) and asked
questions about masturbation..
I love how judgemental you are, in short you are saying the nut doesn't fall far from the tree.
You know NOTHING about this couple except what you hear from the drive bys.
Like you I'm a traditionalist, a stay at home mom and grandmother, and my husband and I worked very hard parenting our gang of 6. Yet two of my boys ended up getting their wives pregnant before they married.
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Why the link to these pictures? |
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GREAT JOKE.
Lefty desperation at it's best.
Practice your funeral for the upcoming
death of liberalism. |
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...does not look anything like that. |
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both envious and self-righteous. She certainly does not sound like a conservative. She is mouthing all of the Dem attacks on Palin. By impugning Palin's mothering ability, my2centsplus is disclosing her own envy.
Bristol Palin may be mature enough to raise a family. There is no way for my2centsplus to know if Bristol is mature enough. Does my2centsplus sound like a Dem in attacking Palin and Bristol on subjects completely unrelated to politics? She does to me. I just want people to realize that anyone can pretend to be anything on the internet, including my2centsplus can claim to be a conservative mother.
The proof of a blogger's identity is disclosed in content and tone of post. The fact that my2centsplus posts like a Dem who is afraid and envious of Palin is obvious to any objective reader. |
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That does not look at all like Bristol!
Amazes me how low the liberal are willing to go! Could you imagine if a conservative webpage posted a false picture of Chelsea drinking underage? |
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I saw a blog last night which was searching for embarrassing photos of Bristol through Facebook, etc. The initially said this was Bristol. They later determined it wasn't Bristol, but probably Levi's sister. Other sites are obviously taking this and running with it... It's bad enough the wackos on the left are posting this trash...Why don't you look at a picture of Bristol before posting it? It's obviously not her. I suggest you remove or update the item. |
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Palin is a bad mother? Let us review. She has five children. She continued her pregnancy when she knew her child would be born with downs syndrome. Her oldest son is going to fight for his country in Iraq. Her children appear healthy, clean, well-dressed, well-behaved. She has had one husband her whole life. If that is what Dems think make up a bad mother, they are telling an awful lot of women they are failures.
Of course, the party that refused to select for VP the person who had as many votes as the candidate because that person was a woman may have ulterior motives in attacking Palin's motherhood. It could be they just do not respect women in general and see them as only something to be used. |
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*I'm a mother of a 17 yr old girl. I know where my daughter is, who she is with and what she is doing. Call me old fashioned, but she's not allowed to steady date until she is in college. And, luckly, she's a great kid, who goes out on 'dates' with 2 or 3 other couples. I am not trying to gain political points and running for any office, as I have children to care for and raise. Oh, I have a career background. I have a closet full of business suits that I have changed for jeans and sneakers. My kids need me more than the companies I worked for. My husband - while an excellent father, cannot take my place. I set the tone in my home. I teach 24/7.
I don't care about Brisol being preggies. I do think the Palins should have thought twice about putting their daughter in the spotlight. I am damm tired of some on this blog and others telling ME what an outstanding decision this is. What if this were one of the Romney boys? Oh please!!! This would he huckabee headlines for WEEKS. You know what? the ONLY decision I would counsel MY daughter if she were dumb enough (yes, I said dumb) to get into this predictment would be ADOPTION. Yes, Bristol. Your not mature enough to raise this kid. Your dad and mom don't have the time. That's clear by the fact you 17 and expecting a baby. Parenting is not something they do, unless they have the time in their schedule. You've repeated the mistake your mom made - not learning from it. A baby is not a fashion statement. It is a life. Andthat life deserserves a FATHER AND MOTHER who love him/her and are stable, older and want children. Adopting agency's can help you. Just do it.
I agree this is a private matter - had the palins remanined private people. Now it's warts and all. |
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sister Mercede. But, once again it doesn't matter if it is or isn't the truth does it? It's must more exploitation by Obama and his goons to reap more bs on Bristol.
Obama can't win in the political arena so he wants to sully a poor 17 year old. Now that's what I would call a manly man. (roll eyes) |
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That is definitely not Bristol Palin, but the point is that the Left are the biggest hypocrites. They espouse peace and high ideals, but in truth they are the most vicious, angry and bitter bunch. I find this attack on this poor young woman very depressing. I do hope the female electorate revolts and votes for McCain/Palin. |
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But if it is its not good. Why would you post something like this on this site and feed the monster of the other side? |
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I agree this may not even be Bristol Palin, but if it was, so what. Leave the kids out of it. |
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thing Sara but either way this crap is wrong. I was a Democrat in 2000 and I did not agree with going after the Bush girls or Gore's children and I don't condone this either. So the way to take Palin down is to suggest that she is a terrible mother? Keep going guys because all your doing is pissing off the female electorate. Democrats have done enough of that this year to last a lifetime. |
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That does not look like Bristol Palin. |
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