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Saturday, August 16, 2008
Obama "Heated" Over Born Alive
Posted by: Amanda Carpenter at 10:27 PM
The Christian Broadcasting Network's David Brody is promising a "heated" interview with Barack Obama over "born alive" legislation.  Brody snagged the interview right after Obama walked off the stage at Saddleback.

"He got pretty heated when I brought up the Born Alive Infant Protection Act," Brody blogged. "Wait until you see his response." Brody also says Obama said he believe the McCain campaign was trying to scare people into believing he was the "anti-Christ."

The video is supposed to be up sometime later tonight. If it's everything Brody is promising, I'm sure it will be sent straight to Drudge. I'll keep you updated. Here's some background on the latest controversy with this vote.

Update 11:33pm: Brody's video is up. Watch it. The born alive discussion is near the beginning of the second half of the interview. Obama does get angry.

Obama accuses the National Right to Life Committee of "lying" about his vote. (Here's all  their documentation, the relevent vote record is HERE.) But if the National Right to Life Committee is lying, why is there an AP news story (PDF HERE) confirming their so-called lie? The story clearly documents a vote in the Illinois State Health and Human Services Committee, which he chaired at that time, against born alive legislation that included protection for Roe v. Wade.  This news story is also easilly accessed by nexis. Obama's researchers should know about it, but I don't think Obama knows any of these damning documents exist and thinks he can keep covering up this part of his record.
 
Excellent interview, Brody. Too bad you didn't get a follow up. The AP story proves Obama is the one who is lying, not the NRLC.



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Jan writes: Tuesday, August, 19, 2008 1:08 PM
ProLife/ProChoice Consensus
This is an area where most people and legislators have consensus/agreement. Obama did not agree with the majority of the Congress on this issue or the majority of the American people. And, like John Edwards, Obama is calling his detractors liars when there is plenty of public documentation to prove he's the liar.
BillInOrlando writes: Tuesday, August, 19, 2008 12:52 PM
RELEVENT DEATH
While Obama would allow scores of innocent babies to die, Pelosi will murder hundreds of innocents of all ages because they won't be able to afford to heat their homes.
ICE writes: Monday, August, 18, 2008 4:32 AM
ON PRO LIFE, ABORTION, EUTHANASIA...
ON PRO LIFE, ABORTION, EUTHANASIA, CAPITAL PUNISHMENT AND OTHER MORAL AND ETHICAL CHOICES, by Ivan Erickson, author of “Song of the Storm Winds”. Please visit http://www.ivan-erickson.com to read and comment on my religious discourses, and to order my novel via direct links to amazon.com
Man’s Free Will: From The Book of Sirach, 15:11 – 20:
“Say not: ‘It was God’s doing that I fell
away’;
for what he hates he does not do.
Say not: ‘It was he who set me astray’;
for he has no need of wicked man.
Abominable wickedness the LORD
hates,
he does not let it befall those who fear
him.
When God, in the beginning, created
man,
he made him subject to his own free
choice.
If you choose, you can keep the com-
mandments;
it is loyalty to do his will.
There are set before you fire and water;
to whichever you choose, stretch
forth your hand.
Before man are life and death,
whichever he chooses shall be given
him.
Immense is the wisdom of the LORD;
he is mighty in power, and all-seeing.
The eyes of God see all he has made;
he understands man’s every deed.
No man does he command to sin,
to none does he give strength for lies”.
Also, God gave us the commandment, “Thou Shalt Not Kill”! Please note that he gave us no addenda to that commandment, except in the case of the destructive power of His Sword – which is war and other Acts of God! Man must not supersede, change, delete or countermand so much as one of God’s commandments, mandates, laws, decrees, jurisdictions or covenants. If man or woman does so, remember also these words of God from The Book of Sirach, 7:8:
“Do not plot to repeat a sin; /not even for one will you go unpunished”. / May the Beloved Lord bless each of you.
Joe, Don't Hate Me 'Cause I'm Right writes: Sunday, August, 17, 2008 11:45 PM
How McCain Won Saddleback
The contrast was striking throughout each man’s one-hour time on stage. When Warren asked Obama, “What’s the most gut-wrenching decision you’ve ever had to make?” Obama answered that opposing the war in Iraq was “as tough a decision that I’ve had to make, not only because there were political consequences but also because Saddam Hussein was a bad person and there was no doubt he meant America ill.” But Obama was a state senator in Illinois when Congress authorized the president to use force in Iraq. He didn’t have to make a decision on the war. That fact was a recurring issue in the Democratic primaries, when candidates Hillary Clinton, Joseph Biden, Christopher Dodd, and John Edwards argued that they, as senators, had to make a choice Obama didn’t have to make. And now he says it’s his toughest call.

When McCain got the question, he was able to tell an old story with a sense of gravity and poignancy that he seldom shows in public. He described his time as a prisoner of war, when he was offered a chance for early release because his father was a top naval officer. “I was in rather bad physical shape,” McCain told Warren, but “we had a code of conduct that said you only leave by order of capture.” So McCain refused to go. He made the telling even more forceful when he added that, “in the spirit of full disclosure, I’m very happy I didn’t know the war was going to last for another three years or so.” In one moment, he showed a sense of pride and a hint of regret, too; he came across as a man who did the right thing but not without the temptation to take an easy out. In any event, the message was very clear: John McCain has had to make bigger, more momentous decisions in his life than has Barack Obama.


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miss vicky writes: Sunday, August, 17, 2008 6:48 PM
"0"doesn't have a clue,not a Christian!
ANYONE WHO CONDONES LATE STAGE ABORTION ETC., IS NOT A BORN AGAIN CHRISTIAN! While in rare cases exceptions should be made, generally speaking, absolutely not! Furthermore, no true Christian
could support a church, Rev., Wrights, for 20 years, that preached such blasphemy and hatred!
Tell it like it is for a change deluded Obama!
mr_sparky writes: Sunday, August, 17, 2008 10:27 AM
hmmm
NOt thrilled with McCain but i will never vote for Obama in a million years. what an idiot, jerk who in my opinion does not really know the Lord Jesus who is God. And the giver of Life. and who said in the Old Testament to choose life.
ann writes: Sunday, August, 17, 2008 8:27 AM
Not a big fan of MCCai
But he hit a homerun this time.
OncealwaysaMarine writes: Sunday, August, 17, 2008 3:35 AM
Dems Don't Care About Dead Babies
Obamamaniacs don't care if Obama is for infanticide, because this is the Democrat Party voting base; in fact, they welcome it.

Perverts and reprobates of every stripe are what make up the rag-tag base of Obamamaniacs, and more importantly, the Democrat Party itself. Nancy Pelosi's dream is that San Fransissy'o become the model of American society [a place where homsexuals and illegal aliens are more welcome than United States Marines]. She is not the only one. Her's and Obama's views on America are representative of their core constituency.

This is the "Change" they have been "Hope"ing for.

Their seeing his lack of concern or conscience about leaving babies to die, gives them all-the-more confidence that he will support their own individual brands of moral terpitude.

The very things we are appalled at, are the very things that attract the "special interests" groups that support such a candicacy. Abortion-on-demand, man-to-man marriage, homosexual adoption [influence] over children...etc.

That Obama supports even infanticide [in the name of a woman's choice] assures all other perversions [under his & his Party's administration] will be as likely to be even more than merely permissable; they will be officially condoned.

Don't expect liberals to care about innocent babies being left to die in hospital storerooms. To them it is an acceptable sacrifice to make if their own selfish perversions can be, likewise, allowed. This is the kind of society so-called "progressives" want to make of America.

Obama is their champion and their best shot at having it.
K.G. writes: Sunday, August, 17, 2008 2:57 AM
ericn: We Completely Agree...
...Obama looked quite UNcomfortable...be called upon to make sense--even tho they had the questions in advance, I believe.

Warren & Mack had good chemistry. Maybe it was just my imagination, but I thought Warren was antsy and bored with Obama's long-winded responses and impatiently wanted him to move on.

Warren's made his name and fortune getting it right with "holy entertainment." He understands how easily people are bored or lose interest in what you're saying if you can't keep it sharp, entertaining and to the point.
K.G. writes: Sunday, August, 17, 2008 2:14 AM
Obama Is a Freak
I don't say this to be mean or partisan. There is really something not right about him. He is not a normal person.

That was seriously shown tonight. You can try to put lipstick on that pig (as long as you have enough oil to make make-up), but BarrySotero/Barack Obama/ or whoever the heck he is, is one strange dude.

Hillary is a little freaky too. John Kerry and AlGore? And Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid? It's a freakin' freak show.
K.G. writes: Sunday, August, 17, 2008 2:07 AM
B2slim: I Know This Isn't a Laughing...
...matter, but I am truly laughing anyway.

But what if the caribou gets preggers? Do we abort or protect? Good thing we got the nuanced, post modern, thoughtful Barack to figure out these complex moral issues for us.

Oh, no. Wait! He said that figuring out complex theological issues (like babies dying alone in a utility room) was "above his pay grade."

Well, no kidding.
B2slim writes: Sunday, August, 17, 2008 1:56 AM
SAVE the Caribou ::: Kill the baby !

We know Obama's character:

Save the Caribou: Kill the "Born alive" baby,

After all::: taxpayers must pay for all abortions on demand: Obama's health care plan:

No one can afford a baby: DUH::: drill so that they have gas to get to work::: Drill so that they have heat to keep the baby warm: DUH stop taxing every business out of business so that parents have jobs to support their babies:

Bottom line:::: taxpayer abortions will be mandatory because his kids cannot be punished with a baby for their mistake:

1. the mistake is dropping their pants at everything that moves

2. get them a caribou to play with:

just shut up and drill:
Paddy O'Furniture writes: Sunday, August, 17, 2008 1:45 AM
It is obvious....
...that the job of the "political analyst" is to convince you that what you saw and heard is not what you saw and heard. They must know better...they are professionals...

BS.....

Sad that it works so often....
Damiano writes: Sunday, August, 17, 2008 1:25 AM
ericn
I flipped between Fox and CNN... then turned off the TV and gave up. CNN trotted out David Gergen and Roland Martin... who were trying desperately to find flaw with McCain. My favorite quote was from the CNN host (forgot his name) who said, "When we come back from commercial, we'll try to talk some about McCain, since we've been spending so much time on Obama". HA!!!

First segment after commercial... more Obama clips.
Trampling out the vintage writes: Sunday, August, 17, 2008 1:16 AM
KG, we agree again.
I watched the post forum on Fox news. It was a joke. Carl Cameron... did we watch the same forum? Carl Cameron made it sound like it was a close call. Carl said Barack seemed very comfortable in the church setting. I didn't see the comfort he was experiencing. I saw Barack trying very hard to pander to the right without completely abandoning his liberal views. It didn't happen. He clearly demonstrated that he is liberal. I think Fox was really trying too hard to be fair and balanced, because the final tally was not balanced. It was tilted to John McCain, big time!
K.G. writes: Sunday, August, 17, 2008 12:53 AM
I Just Watched the Saddleback Interviews
Up til now I have been a nose-holding Mack voter. Tonight I saw a warm, delightful, touching, decisive Mack, especially clear on the abortion issue.

Ann Lewis described Barack as "post modern, nuanced and thoughtful." I saw him to be emotionally detached, rambling, boring, longwinded and evasive.

The smiling, earnest Mack got lots of applause and laughter. Barack, very little. Don't let the spinmeisters tell you Barack did well.

Not in my book. I give Mack a 95; Barack a 20.
DDM in CDM writes: Sunday, August, 17, 2008 12:39 AM
B2slim
Just give Barry enough time and his ego will consume him. Thinking Americans have always wanted strong doses of character, judgment, and experience in their presidents. Barry's character references are Wright, Ayers, Dohrn, Rezko, Mayor Daley, Saul Alinsky, Frank Marshall Davis, Malcolm X, and Farakahn. His judgment is unknown because he can't keep a position on anything for more than an hour, and his experience is HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Stick a fork in him and let him get a job that is in his pay grade - you know maybe in the Teachers Union, or a professor at the Fidel Castro School of Why America Sucks.
sloandog writes: Sunday, August, 17, 2008 12:35 AM
KL don't strain yourself over GOP VP
If I were you I would be more worried at what transpires in Denver!
B2slim writes: Sunday, August, 17, 2008 12:28 AM
Obama is PUR EVIL< DEMENTED MONSTER


Anyone::::

who promotes, supports, endorses, asks the taxpayer to "ELIMINATE" a BORN ALIVE BABY

UNDER the PRETEXT that it is to save the MOTHER' or the MOTHER's health is evil, demented, a monster: PERIOD

EXPLAIN how the vicious slaughter of a baby already "BORN" already "ALIVE" can save the mother's health no matter what her condition is: ???

THE BABY IS NOT LONGER "CONNECTED" TO THAT DEMENTED EVIL MOTHER:
Damiano writes: Sunday, August, 17, 2008 12:24 AM
He's really got to do better...
Just for the sake of argument (and since I admittedly haven't done complete research on the issue), I will accept Obama's response at face value and refer to it as fact. He voted against the bill because it was redundant. It was already covered on a federal level and by a different state bill. Fine. Let's move on.

What the hell is with him playing the constant victim? "Why did you vote against this bill?" It's a valid question! No one on earth knows why he voted the way he did. All he has to do is answer the question. But that is too much to expect from him. He voted the way he voted, he is always right and it is unfair, unethical, slanderous and racist to question him.

Same in context with the interview. Question his policies= personal attacks and everyone is a liar who is out to get him.

Let try this in a way he may understand. Mr. Obama, we mortals cannot be expected to comprehend the depth of your divine and omnipotent judgment. Those of us who are such heretics as to think and not blindly follow your majestic path, have questions and seek enlightenment so that we too can proclaim your greatness. This involves explaining why you have done things that, to us blasphemers, seem completely senseless, ridiculous and/ or against our beliefs. If you would deem to lower yourself for a moment to the bitter, huddling masses; who cling to our guns and religion... please answer a question with something other than, "uuhh...ummm... I have always said... err..." We cannot understand the tongue of The One, especially when you change your answer daily. We are simple people, who were not able to attend college because we didn't qualify for affirmative action. Our deprived upbringing did not include exclusive private schools.
B2slim writes: Sunday, August, 17, 2008 12:23 AM
PRO choice is NOT "born alive" position

SEE illiterate Obama lemmings just can never separate fact from FICTION:

MY OBJECTION TO OBAMA is:: his orders to slaugher a "BORN ALIVE" baby::: and say it was to save the "HEALTH" of the "MOTHER" who is already out on the street screwing everything that moves before Obama has starved her "MISTAKE" to death:

did I say anything about "PRO CHOICE" vs PRO LIFE ????

NEVER:::


PSSSSSSSSSSSSSST why would I be upset if McCain selected a PRO_LIFE VP::: AGain:



Darby writes: Sunday, August, 17, 2008 12:18 AM
Obama on Abortion
Will the MSM call him on his statement about abortion rates? He claimed that abortion rates have not declined during the time that Bush has been in office, when rates have fallen to their lowest point since the early 1970s. Granted, it could be argued that the decline has nothing to do with the Bush administration's policies, but that's not what Obama said. He made a gross factual error, and should have known better than to make a claim that is so easily checked. Maybe fact-checking is above his paygrade.
B2slim writes: Sunday, August, 17, 2008 12:17 AM
LETTER: DEAR OBAMA:


1. WE DO NOT need McCain or his campaign to tell us what to "THINK' and LEARN and Discover in our research:

2. WE DO NOT need a HARVARD degree to read YOUR WORDS::: HEAR YOUR lifetime of speeches"
they are all public record::: documented by tape in most cases:

3. WE do not need McCain or anyone directly connected to his election bid to KNOW exactly what you are, who you are, and what your plans are:

Understanding what your plans for this nation are may be more difficult because you change and twist the facts every other hour now:

THE BOTTOM LINE::::: WE KNOW WHAT YOU ARE and it is UGLY:::: just look to your position and speeches on the "BORN ALIVE" LEGISLATION: your history, your books, your claims, the evidence we find:

I WOULD NEVER VOTE for anyone as arrogant as you are: as incompetent as you are, as inexperienced as you are, as dumb as you truly are, or anyone who lacks true character as you do:
Tea Party writes: Saturday, August, 16, 2008 11:30 PM
Lied?
Odd, and we thought it was Obama's mouth that was moving in the Illinois Legislature. Sorry goat, your post stinks just like a goats would.

I will go further, Obama believes in TORTURE.
A baby is forcibly turned and dragged down the birth canal by a foot, (mama has been duped into believing it's either her health or the baby is somehow defective and we just can't allow defective babies to live), just the head remains in the birth canal, arms and legs flailing, heart is beating. The executioner pierces the
neck just below the skull with scissors..the flailing intensifies as the first sudden shock of pain courses through the little body. And
more flailing of tiny arms and legs of a LIVING
HUMAN BABY as the hole is widened and the tube inserted and the suction begins and the flailing slowly subsides at first then the arms and legs are....stilled..and the skull collapsed. Tell
that's not TORTURE and I will call you a ghoulish
LIAR!!!
Live Baby after abortion, left to die, unattended, without a blanket for warmth, probably dumped among the soiled linen, gasping for breath, struggling for breath, little arms and legs moving, slower and slower as the breathing slows,...and is stilled. O yeah,
this is not only TORTURE but CHILD ABUSE!!

Obama is such a man, such a hero, such a CHRISTIAN, such a lying disgrace of humanity.
I suppose he thinks it's okay since the
testimony of the nurse when the bill was considered worked at CHRIST hospital. She was the one that held the dying baby for 45 minutes til it went to the arms of the Lord.
B2slim writes: Saturday, August, 16, 2008 11:06 PM
REPORTER with a SPINE::: YEAH:::::

FINALLY:::: a HERO in the USA::::

do not have to go to HARVARD to know when Obama is blowing smoke up our pants:

MOTHER alive and well
Child born alive:

GRIEF::: OBAMA claims the baby cannot be a person, and must die< starve or be slaughtered to save the "HEALTH OF THE MOTHER" !!

Obama is a MONSTER::: no normal person would accept that LIE::: TO SAVE THE MOTHER::: THE MOTHER"S health is NOT AT RISK when the baby is BORN ALIVE :::: and she is discharged before the medical profession is order to kill the baby::::

OBAMA:::: get a refund on your HARVARD education

"A MISTAKE" no one should live with a mistake he yells: and the PEOPLE cheered: and CHEERED:
NO food
NO medical care
NOT a person

and the people cheered and cheered and cheered:
they fainted with delight:

BRODY::: YOU ARE AN AMERICAN HERO::: a True Grit Reporter:::::: a diamond in the rough:
My Pet Goat writes: Saturday, August, 16, 2008 11:04 PM
Good!
I hope Obama is getting heated up over this one.

You people on the Right have blatantly and wilfully lied about this entire episode.
B2slim writes: Saturday, August, 16, 2008 10:54 PM
Obama acts LIKE the Anti Christ


DEAR::: WORLD DICTATOR OBAMA::::

McCain has never told me to believe what and who you are

IT COMES FROM YOUR OWN MOUTH:::::

IT comes from your wife's mouth

It comes from your CIRCLE OF INFLUENCE

It comes from your speeches

It comes from your history books, writings, actions::::

TO DEMAND that a baby be slaughtered OR STARVED TO death after it is BORN ALIVE and MOTHER and child are FINE: Under the pretext of to "SAVE THE MOTHER" LAWDY:: we didn't go to HARVARD and know that is smoke you are blowing up our pants:

SAVE THE MOTHER"S HEALTH: when she is out dancing in the streets before the child has been brutally starved to death:

B2slim writes: Saturday, August, 16, 2008 10:49 PM
Health of the MOTHER ? give me a break::

LIAR MONSTER DICTATOR OBAMA:

BOTH::: child and MOTHER were alive and well

DIctator Obama orderd that child to be:
starved to save the MOTHER"S HEATH

She was probably already out on the street screwing everything that moved before that baby was starved to death:::

NOT A PERSON OBAMA YELLS
NO FOOD
NO MEDICAL CARE

AND the PEOPLE CHEERED::::: and cheered::::

HAVE TO SAVE the HEALTH OF THE MOTHER after both are fine and the baby was born alive:

ONLY A MONSTER would support the vicious, brutal, slaughter of a baby born alive and pretend that the execution was to save the mothers health:

NO ONE SHOULD have to live with a mistake he yells and the PEOPLE CHEERED::::
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