Friday, October 12, 2007
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Goracle Wins the Arafat Prize. Who's Next?
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Posted by:
Patrick Ruffini at
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If you're wondering what exactly climate change has to do with "peace," you're not alone. But don't worry. There's plenty of time for the Democratic National Convention Nobel Committee to return to its roots as a leading exponent for appeasement.
If Clinton/Obama wins next year, they'll have no shortage of winners in the coming years.
2010 President Hillary Clinton, for ending the Iraq War
2012 Special Presidential Emissary Bill Clinton, for the so-called Bubbahmedinejahd Pact guaranteeing no U.S. attack on Iran in exchange for a cap of 20 Iranian nuclear weapons.
2018 President Barack Obama, for the Treaty of Kandahar providing for a permanent cessation of hostilities against Al Qaeda and the Taliban.
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Go read Bjorn Lomborg's "The Sceptical Environmentalist" and be ready for a pop quiz.
The Nutters,Hollywooders,Boooosh Haters, Chomskyists,Kosroid Crowd loonies are aboard the
Enviro-Whacko-AlGrrrrrrrrr Brigade.That,alone, tells me what I need to know.Hey,Howard Zinn,I'll durn well bet'cha,is aboard your side.
Us'uns and the EARTH are far more resiliant. |
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from angry, jealous right wingers.
Al must be on to something, lest it wouldn't ruffle your back hair so.. |
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Patriotic Liberal - How is Gore a peacemaker?
Also, I believe the Anti-christ will appear to be a peace maker as well. Read the book of Daniel my friend. ;) |
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Hey, if argumentative right-wingers without scientific backgrounds say it, it must be true. That's the rule on Townhall.com. |
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Sun: Big Hot Sum'Bi**h.
Earth: Circles Big Hot Sum'Bi**h.
Result: Earth Gets Whatever Sun Wants to Give or Withold.
Lesson: Earth is Big,Tough,Resiliant,Takes Punches,Gets Pi**ed Off Sometimes & Shows Man What a Little Bug He Is,etc...
Lesson 2: It has ALWAYS been thus.Always will be. |
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I understand.
You and your cat share similar brain function. It now makes sense as to why you, as a human, are experiencing such a disconnect with human rationale on this issue.
Enjoy your conversations with your cat. |
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Whatever. Even my cat understands the logic of my argument by now. You either can't, or more likely, won't.
"NO RESPONSIBLE SCIENTIST HAS DEFINITIVELY CONCLUDED THAT UPWARDLY MOVING EARTH TEMPERATURES ARE DEFINITIVELY CAUSED BY MAN."
Well, that depends on what you mean by "definitively". If you mean 100% certainty, well that's very convenient, since there is no such thing in science. You can just say "not definitively concluded" and ignore anything you like.
"Nor has Al Gore suggested, inferred, offered to China that they too 'step up to the plate' on Mr. Gore's 'clean-up-the-planet' program."
Actually, he has. He's given his presentation several times on mainland China, and the film mentions China's environmental problems. |
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Your quote:
"OK, now let's say that sunspot activity is the dominant influence on temperature on Earth."
My problem with you is that your original post never directly said this----never concluded the direct relationship.
Neither did I say it, nor did I conclude it.
I readily admit that I am not a scientist, however, I'e done a good bit of research on this subject----since the hysterical claims of one, Al Gore.
I have also read, reread your post. I know what it says.
I also know your comment is mightily contradicted by the very article (Science, October 2004) referenced. Despite your comments.
Why does it/you bug me?------'cuz it/you reminds me of the same cavalier nature of other populist folks who opine on science--IN SERIOUS FASHION---when indeed you are not a scientist. Nor is Al Gore a scientist---and will/has not engaged in responsible dialogue, debate, discussion with any scientist.
Sure, Al Gore has raised global temperature awareness, albeit through deceiptful fashion.
NO RESPONSIBLE SCIENTIST HAS DEFINITIVELY CONCLUDED THAT UPWARDLY MOVING EARTH TEMPERATURES ARE DEFINITIVELY CAUSED BY MAN.
Nor has Al Gore suggested, inferred, offered to China that they too "step up to the plate" on Mr. Gore's "clean-up-the-planet" program. |
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OK, I'll explain this. According to the article on Space.com, sunspot activity is at a high and has been for sixty or seventy years. OK, now let's say that sunspot activity is the dominant influence on temperature on Earth. Well, if that were true, the temperature should have increased up to about sixty years ago, and stopped. As many of my opponents on the debate have gleefully pointed out, the Earth's temperature responds relatively quickly to changes in the sun. So the temperature should have gone up as sunspot activity went up, then when it stopped, the Earth would have taken say, five (say ten for the sake of argument) years to get into equilibrium. So, for the last fifty years, temperature should have been the same. There shouldn't have been any increase. Yet, there was. |
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boiled nicely whilst I was out doing VAST GOOD FOR HUMANITY today.
Nutters,ya just gotta luv'um. Okay,ya don't HAVE to.
It's kinda like the greens-environmentalist nutcase whackos who won't hear of the Alaskan
refuge--barren arctic wasteland--being drilled for EeeeeekK Demon Oil.They,among other things, claim it'll harm the Carribooooo.NOT.Turns out that the sex-crazed critters have been proliferating handsomely since the opening of the Trans Alaskan pipeline.Seems the line gives off heat,which attracts'um and gets their lust going.So,zillions of smiling antlered critters h**ping like wabbits!Thus,babies by the furry gazillions.
Greenhouse Gas That!
Clarity,Cotton,OHM: The poor doofus--object of our ire,pity & mirth--LP-PL-LP-PL is,I calculate,the most self-serious fellow on the face of our(ravaged)planet.My God,have you ever been around a person who never,ever,ever,everrrr
GETS IT...Ya know...THE JOKE?
Gotta go see Hugh's Tribe beat Mrs.Neo's BoSox. |
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Ditto my earlier post. I think i struck just the right ontic balance. It reminded me of the day back in 65', when Sandy tossed that game. Don't you agree? Or, am i full of unresolved brutality? Or, are you just full of it? |
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P-a-r-t o-f m-e a-s-k-s,
w-h-e-r-e d-o-e-s t-h-i-s y-a-h-o-o h-a-i-l f-r-o-m?
Listen slowly.
Sunspot activity on this day, October 16, 2007 has been STABLE TOO.
But, one day does not markedly affect global warming.
YOU SAID:
"...no net upward trend in sunpspot activity."
THE ARTICLE CLEARLY STATES:
"The study's finding: Sunspot activity has been more intense and lasted longer during the past 60 to 70 years than at anytime in more than eight millennia." 8 millenia equates to 8,000 years.
That's e-i-g-h-t t-h-o-u-s-a-n-d y-e-a-r-s!
Your comment that the sun has been STABLE over the past thirty years falls within this period of "intense sunspot activity" over the past 70 years. It therefore blows the crap out of your incorrect and lame comment.
BY DEFINITION-----this means that this type of measured activity has been i-n-c-r-e-a-s-i-n-g-l-y i-n-t-e-n-s-e during and including your "30 year" quip.
It entirely refutes the comment you made:
"no net upward trend in sunpspot activity."
Man, are you dense?
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Part of me says, "Why bother?", but what the hell. Read what I said again, more carefully this time. I was saying that sunspot activity has been stable for the past thirty years, and there's nothing in the article that contradicts that. Even if civilization didn't exist, the Earth'd be in a warm period right now, sure. My point is that we're still warming and all natural indicators say we shouldn't be.
Any other crap you want to throw? If your arm's not tired by now, that is. |
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Clarityseeker,
The important thing I've learned in my dealings with Liberal Patriot is that he's a narcissist.
He reveals that in nearly every post when he identifies his qualities which make him both unique and 'superior' as well as when he matter-of-factly announces that his adversaries in the GOP are merely jerks, cheaters, and losers.
In fact, in a thread several weeks ago about Michael Vick's Federal indictment for dogfighting, Liberal Patriot ridiculously asserted that Dean Barnett's outrage at Vick was borne merely out of 'racism.'
And Liberal Patriot saw nothing immoral about slandering Dean's good name in that way.
Liberal Patriot is not interested in truth, rather, he's interested in advancing the ball down the field on behalf of his team.
Think of how often we've caught him misquoting other commenters, getting facts wrong, or simply inventing arguments out of whole straw.
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...states the Nobel has given out some,
"stinkers".
Let's see now, when my kids were in diapers, they produced, "stinkers".
When our neigbor's dogs were sprayed by a local skunk, they assumed the role of, "stinkers".
When our California home experienced a gas line rupture, this produced massive, "stinkers".
I hardly equate these, "stinkers" with an international organization's awarding of Nobel "Peace" prize to a renowned terrorist, Yasser Arafat.
Mikhail Gorbachev led a country, USSR, which killed millions of its own people in the 20th century. Other atrocities committed by the USSR are too numerous to list here---suffice it to say-----these aggressions towards its own people were NEVER assailed nor criticized by the International community------yet, Patriotic Ignorance might call the rewarding of such world leaders, a "stinker". Woooooooooooooooo.......harsh language for a liberal. Really extreme.
Jimme Cawtah, now his behavior is base lined at "stink". It only accelerates from there.
Kofi "Oil-for-Food" Annan. What can one say about Kofi Annan? Oh yeah, what a "stinker". I guess his diaper needs changing, the little "stinker".
footnote: please excuse all references to the vile word usage ("stinker") used by Lefty, Patriotic Illiterate. His views do not necessarily reflect those of this board, producers of this website, nor this poster. We apologize for the offensive nature of this language while describing people in the world who have been appropriately and deservedly graced with much hoopla and adulation. |
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"I've long found it curious how hard conservatives work to slime and diminish Al Gore---someone who is clearly far more talented and perceptive than the man he ran against for president in 2000
LMAO..Yea coming from a man who couldn't even carry his home state in a presidential election. I guess that shows what the people of Tennesse thought of him.
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Hey, Frey-d for brains.
If you are going to quote data, i.e. "sunspot activity", then quote it correctly.
In fact, sunspot activity over the past 60-70 years has been greater, more intense, than over the past 8 millenia:
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/sunspot_record_041027 .html
The debate as to whether this impacts global warming is also intense----however----you are DEAD WRONG in stating what you did. And what you said is 180 degrees from what scientists are saying with regard to sunspot activity
I suppose when your brains are Frey-d, you have a built in excuse----but, it don't fly here. |
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"seems like we've got this thing called the Sun."
Yes, but the sun has been STABLE for the past thirty years. No net upward trend in luminousity, no net upward trend in sunpspot activity. Meanwhile the average temperature on Earth went up by .3 degrees. So what's been causing it?
BTW, I did some more checking this morning. Changes in salinity, especially in the north Atlantic, were actually predicted by global warming theory. So is it a cause, or an effect? |
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Yep.Bottomless appetites going nowhere except more
appetite.Voracious.Perpetual.VORTEX SUCTION.
We'll next be seeing them swarm & fester on the nobility of San Fran Nan & the congressional Demowits' NEED to condemn Turkey,our critical ally,for the Armenian Genocide.It WAS.But,their motive isn't slapping Turkey's hand with a condemnation for mass murder 100 years ago.Nope.
The motive is to UNDERCUT & SUBVERT our troops at this critical moment by angering Turkey and watching them cut off the air and land lines hugely vital in the Iraq war.Oh,and then blame Bush,of course.They've got to be stopped. Absolute SCUM.
Any bets on who'll be throwing Armenia at us in
faux outrage over Repub EeeeeeekK "hypocrisy" and the purity of Nutter Motives on genocide??
Do I hear...Buffo...PL-LP-PL-LP...Brobbo...LL..?? |
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Top of the 'morn to you, sir.
I did see the posts you refer to. I do not always possess the level of energy to acknowledge these jacka**es. They are akin to a certain type of bacteria. Always there, however, not always making themselves known to others----until it serves their purpose, until they observe some weakness or advantage they can take advantage of.
Case in point:
The Patriotic Illiterate makes scant mention of the INCREDIBLE agenda-driven, politicizing, celebrity honoring nature of Nobel's choices of honoring an individual.
The Illiterate one merely mentions some "stinkers" in the past---then proceeds down that path of "fawning over", "cheerleading" Nobel.
What is a "stinker"? No one knows by this Illiterate reference.
No definitions.
No explanations.
Nothing.
Then, as if on cue, all other Lefties, Progressives, Liberals, socialists, victocrats fall into place with their usual skew and spew.
Never a nod to the Truth.
NEVER A CRITICAL THOUGHT AIMED AT OR ABOUT THEIR OWN IDEOLOGY (if one can even identify whether they have an ideology).
It is boorish. I do not always possess the energy for it.
You have a great day. |
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Religiouslib & Johninoregon are worth the tickle to read. Priceless,both.
Particularly enjoyed John's.Imputing brains and honor--for Godsake--to AlGrrrrrrrrrrrrr is beyond mirthful.The poor twit is a remorseless liar and rager.But,thank God he invented the internet we're using tonight.He's a Giver! |
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seems like we've got this thing called the Sun.Always have had it.Flares,'splosions,what'cha-ma'callits,etc...Hotter,colder,whatever...Varies for millions of years.This secular religion of the Gored Left Worldwide will be the brunt of great mirth in the not too distant future.
I'd think Dr.Gray's speech text oughtta be worthy of googling. |
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Zzzzzzz, Zzzzzzzzz, Huh? what? Oh, I thought someone was talking about Eyegore on "Young Frankenstein" but this thread's about about Algore. How "Boring." |
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Yowza. Now, there's a guy who initiated, PROMOTED, worked tirelessly for, the end of the Cold War. Yep.
Here's the transparency to just how superficial those motivations are inside the Nobel mindset
In 1994 Arafat, Peres, Rabin, are jointly awarded this prize for their collective efforts to bring about pece in the Middle East. How long did that peace last, by the way?
Gorbachev was placed on notice that USSR was in the crosshairs of Reagan, as soon as this man became president. I wonder if Jimme Cawtah even knew where the soviet union was? Regardless, he had no clue as to what those eastern bloc countries were made to endure under soviet rule. Everyone other than Reagan has been credited withh the ending of the Cold War-----and the Soviet Union----and the dismantling of the Berlin Wall.
Mikhail Gorbachev has been regaled and applauded.
Pope John Paul was provided huge numbers of accolades, many people in Europe giving him sole credit for ending the Cold War.
The United Nations has been credited for strides they put forth to this end---not sure what it was they did.
Reagan?............he did nothing and deserves nothing for being the catalyst for ending soviet bloc and cold war. Margaret Thatcher? Who's she? Certainly no one who deserves anything other than footnote status in historical perspective.
HA ha ha.....what an incredible laugh it is to see the Noble Peace prize behave as politically as the, Academy Awards in hollyweird. Absolutely hysterical. These two, along with the Emmy Awards, create the consummate troika of world celebrity recognition. |
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I've long found it curious how hard conservatives work to slime and diminish Al Gore---someone who is clearly far more talented and perceptive than the man he ran against for president in 2000. Yesterday, I ran across an excellent analysis of that phenomenon:
http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/10/15/4545/
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"Oil for Food"
Nothing like galvanizing the true representation of that which the Nobel Peace prize worships:
Kofi Annan. It really is a challenge, imagining who holds more value in the world than Kofi Annan. |
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It just goes to show, a leopard cannot change its spots.
Ignorance is ignorance, whether it is spewed by "Illiterate Patriot", or, Patriotic Illiterate".
It also suggests how much liberals are programmed for changing "appearances".
As for suggesting Al Gore has accomplished something significant----well, if you want to put him in the same category of, "Chicken Little". He just ran around claiming that, "the sky is falling, the sky is falling". Yeah, I can accept that---but giving him an award for doing so. Well, if you are of the ilk that loves self adulation and "puffing" yourself up-----kinda like hollywood elites---that is exactly why hollywood elites and Al Gore go together so well.
And Patriotic Illiterates find this superficiality so satisfying, rewarding, gratifying. It paints substance where there is little.
I am actually glad that people like Margaret Thatcher and Ronald Reagan do not have one of these vacuuous recognitions to their name. It makes it so much more clear as to exactly what it is that the Nobel represents.
Yasser Arafat, another recipient. Yeah, he is a personal hero. Someone to recognize for all he's accomplished in establishing, fostering, promoting modern day terrorism.
Jimme Cawtah, a 40 year fan of Yasser Arafat. A very unhappy man. An apologist. He accomplished an incredible amount of....what was it that he accomplished, again? |
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"Google Dr.William Gray of Colorado State U.and his speech Friday night"
I did. According to the Sydney Morning Herald story, he said, "a natural cycle of ocean water temperatures - related to the amount of salt in ocean water - was responsible for the global warming"
An interesting theory, and I'm looking forward to following it up, but he'd need to show evidence of the cycle, evidence of causation, and he'd need to explain how the level of atmospheric CO2 (responsible for 10-30% of the greenhouse effect) can go up by over a third and NOT have an effect. |
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it is one thing to disagree with al gore on global warming it is quite another to stoop to sophomoric insults because he is from another political party.
he is an american my friends and even if don't like him personally, there is something wrong with you if you can't feel pride that an fellow country man has gotten international prestige.
shame on you, you america haters |
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lilly writes: "Here's something that isn't a lie: "Newsweek" August 13, 2007 has a cover story describing in great detail how a campaign to discredit global warming was mounted and funded by industries that stood to lose money if global warming should influence national policy."
Which added up to one giant ad hominem attack on the skeptics of global warming. Nowhere in the article were the skeptics allowed to present their own evidence or argue their own positions on their merits. Instead their backgrounds and motives were smeared.
Lilly, I'm surprised at you, an intelligent educated person, citing those kinds of ad hominem political hatchet jobs to make your points.
But if you want to play that game, has it ever occurred to you that the proponents of the global warming might have some questionable backgrounds and motives of their own? There are a lot of European and Third World politicians and activists who have glommed onto global warming, simply because they see it as a way to put constraints on the American economy, which they see as a competitor or even a strategic adversary. That is why they insisted on a Kyoto Protocol that put the onus on America and totally exempted India and China--as if the U.S. should be required to subsidize rising economic powers.
Neither Newsweek, nor you, nor Al Gore, has ever acknowledged THAT point.
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..is who LOVES the new secular religion.Yep,that
lovely crew who hates Boooosh(not jihadists)and thinks there's something to be said for Karl Marx and showing Dark Age Islamist Butchers the Luv.
IF,on the off-chance,your actuallm interested in what the foremost climate scientist on earth says about your Archbisop of EEeeeeekK Greenhouse Gas:
Google Dr.William Gray of Colorado State U.and his speech Friday night on the subject of all this,including AlGrrrrrrr. Or,go to the Sydny Daily Herald article reporting it Saturday.(I'm a cyber T-Rex or I'd link it here for you.) |
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I am not sure how deserving Al Gore is but it is such great fun to see conservatives go apoplectic over this. After all the guy they supported has turned out to be torturer in chief.
And of course true conservative denies even the existence of climate issues: after all short term profits is much more interesting and valuable than future of humanity and this globe.
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Currently: Daniel Silva's "Prince of Fire", preceeded by Silva's "The Kill Artist".
Lyn Macdonald,"Somme" and "They Called It
Passchendaele". Richard Frank's,"Downfall"....
Paul Fussell,"Thank God for the Atom Bomb" and
"The Great War and Modern Memory."Norman Maclean,"Young Men and Fire."(*Maclean's book is
transportive to a tragedy in the summer of '49 in Montana.*)
Silva is a wonderful thriller author,PL.Highly recommend him...Ecclesiastes,for goodness sake!
Not since I was a kid,so I'll take your rec.and read it. |
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Hey, just because you don't anticipate my arguments--just because they are not the straw man arguments you hear on talk radio--does not mean it is crazy talk. It could mean you haven't thought the issues through, or that you haven't heard all the arguments, or that rhetorical devices you thought were your own can be turned on you..
My last five books? Let's see:
Against the Gods, Peter Bernstein (about the history of risk management)
Price of Terror, Ibrahim Warde (lefty treatise about Treasury operations in the GWOT)
Mellon, David Cannadine (about Andrew Mellon)
Crazy '08, Cait Murphy (about the 1908 baseball season)
Ecclesiastes, Qoheleth (best book in the Bible and one of the great books of all times. Read it every year)
Thanks for asking. What have you been reading these days?
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Remember Jeff Foxworthy's "you might be a redneck routine"? If you do so and so, you might be a redneck, etc. Let's apply the theory Albert Gore: If your film is sending grade school girls home with tears running down their little faces because polar bears are drowning and you can't not know that while there were 5,000 polar bears in 1960 there are now 25,000 in the world, you not only might be a liar, you are. |
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Gooooood. Now,dear,WHY would those mean old industries who put gas in your car,build your car,fill your car with goods and groceries,mow your yummy green lawn,fertilize it,water it, entertain your lil'earth rat kids,clothe same,warm same....WHY-o-WHY would those evil industries be interested in continuing their tasks without further gov't finger wagging which costs them,you and us mo' $$$$$$??
Am I getting through,Lilly? NO? Didn't think it would. |
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Here's something that isn't a lie: "Newsweek" August 13, 2007 has a cover story describing in great detail how a campaign to discredit global warming was mounted and funded by industries that stood to lose money if global warming should influence national policy. |
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A lie is a lie is a lie, even if a British Judge maintains decorum when dinging Albert Arnold, an ex U.S. VP, for his sins of commision and ommision and "errors" and plain old lies. The only reason Albert Arnold refuses to debate anyone on the contents of his propaganda (read lying) little drama is because he knows that his work has been public too long and truth and reason have devoured it. If Gore had the mustard to get out and openly debate any reasonable person who sees him for what he is and his "facts" for what they are, he would deserve a little repect. Instead he runs like a terrified little critter.
The biggest lie, of course, is that there is no longer any question that everything he has to say about global warming is true, that is there is "consensus". All one needs to do to detect that lie is know that Gore will not argue his own position in an open public debate with anybody.
Here are four errors/lies mentioned in the article about the judge's ruling:
A quick look at a few of the so called scientific errors will reveal just how deserving Albert Arnold Gore really and truly is of being on a list of prize winners with Yasser Arafat. The tall tale of the drowning polar bears, The one about the disappearing ice floes in the Arctic, and the one about the glacier and snows on Mount Kilimanjaro diminishing because of climate change. One of the bigger “scientific Errors” of course is the tall tale that Hurricane Katrina was caused by global warming. According to the judge, “it is common ground that there is insufficient evidence to show that”.
Albert Arnold has to know or been told by some staffer that these kinds of claims have all been debunked, therefore he lies.
Sorry there were only four of the nine listed in the article, but I am sure there were actually way more than nine in Gore's work.
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actually the trade-off will be 20 iranian intern virgins. |
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Do you have the remotest idea how you sound on this stuff? Gimme a hint,will ya please...WHY
did AlGrrrrrrr get the Nobel PEACE Prize?
While you're at it,gimme a little light into WHY,
even IF he had validity with his "we're gonna drown in 40 years" vacuous hogwash,WHY oh WHY would even that suspension of reality merit a Nobel PEACE Prize?
Do YOU believe that there is validity IN SCIENCE to consensus? If yes,that alone will tell me alot.
What are the last 5 or 10 books you've read,PL?
If you'll give me a truthful answer(And,in your case,I DO believe you.),I'll reply in kind if you wish. |
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Four Brobs in a row does not a logical argument make... |
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west valley ranch writes: Earth is warming this I know Al Gore's movie tells me so It's real bad and man's to blame Al Gore also blames
From : Al Gore and the Mission of the Nobel Prizes
By John Berlau
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2007/10/al_gore_a nd_the_mission_of_the.html
Ironically, he blasts what is called the "green revolution," the high-yield farming and plant breeding that has made countries like India and Pakistan self-sustaining in agriculture. Norman Borlaug won the 1970 Nobel Peace Prize for pioneering these techniques and bringing them to the Third World.
But in Earth in the Balance Gore decries "the much-heralded Green Revolution" as well as biotechnology that promises to further revolutionize agriculture. Gore concedes,
"To be sure, these same new 'miracle crops' ... have temporarily conquered hunger in a few of the Third World Nations." But, he concludes, "the higher yields made possible by genetically altered crop strains often cannot be sustained over time, as the pests and blights catch up to them and as overirrigation and overfertilizing take their toll on soil productivity."
Modern farming techniques, he writes, are "a set of dangerous bargains with the future worthy of the theatrical legend that haunted the birth of the scientific revolution: Dr. Faustus."
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Isn't that spelled "looooooosers"?
Don't you worry about Al Gore being named Archbishop of anything. We don't do things that way. There's a difference between giving credit where its due and shameless fawning. Your side turns a mediocre son of privilege into the heroic Protector of the West and All that is Good and Sacred. That's shameless fawning. Our side says "Who cares what the wingnuts think? I like Hillary." That's giving credit where its due. The demonizing and the breathless hero worship--that's your specialty, not ours. |
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Whatever.
All one has to do is take a peeky at WHO is all breathless and believing in secular nutter religion of Archbishop AlGrrrrrrrrr...It speaks volumes on why it's a joke.Losers!Lossssssers!!
Throat Clearing Sounds...
"Earth is warming,this I know..
AlGrrrrr's movie tells me so.."
Oh,yeah. |
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I don't buy that for an instant--especially with the current crop of authoritarian conservatives. They like governing well enough. It's just that their worldview engenders incompetence and corruption. |
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Au contraire, as our French allies might say: these days we Dems have plenty of reasons to gloat. As you Republicans stew in the juices of your own inept and corrupt governance, we Dems are looking pretty good to the broader public. What is increasingly clear is that bad Republican government is derived from a shoddy, ill-conceived philosophy. We warned the people about it and now the people can see for themselves. Heck, I'm beginning to think that 2008 is full cycle back to 1964--where the Repubs are reduced to their base of foamers, and the Dems win a resounding landslide. Obviously, Goldwater did not have the nasty streak that this generation of Republican leadership has, so you may be able to depress some of the turnout. But gloat?! It's only just begun, my boy.. |
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Actually, I'm "Liberal Patriot." My kid was cleaning our disk and--poof--we lost our logins. That's okay. "Patriotic Liberal" is the same thing. I think there is a law of algebra that says so.
This country was founded by secularly-minded Christians. We were Christian colonies, but it took the Enlightenment to make us a Republic. I agree with you that "Fear of the Lord" is the cornerstone of all wisdom, but one genius of our liberal system is that folly and wisdom and everything in-between is filtered through the natural light of rationality. This natural rationality--and not religious faith--is the basis of our civic life and even our morality.
It would probably be more accurate to wonder how someone can be patriotic without being liberal. Still, I completely appreciate the importance of conservatism, of cherishing and protecting those fragile values that enable our civilization. I do have a problem with many in THIS generation of conservatives, who seem to me lawless, tabloidesque, and second-rate. But conservatism itself is an important bulwark, and I myself tend to be more culturally conservative (if fiscally liberal).
But, hey, thanks for your concern.. |
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concord2123 writes: Good for Al Gore, a truly accomplished man. ....someone for being honored for trying to make the world a better place.
The Nobel Foundation has proven yet again how disengaged from reality it is when it comes to bestowing the Nobel Peace Prize. Albert Arnold Gore was bestowed the prize this week. While the Nobel Peace prize has often been awarded to clearly deserving recipients like Mother Theresa, NORMAN BORLAUG, ALBERT SCHWEITZER and ANDREI DMITRIEVICH SAKHAROV, more recently the Nobel committee has more often stumbled badly tripping over the political axes they often grind. Al Gore thus joins the likes of the terrorist Yasser Arafat, former leader of the PLO, and the now disgraced KOFI ANNAN whose rein at the UN was characterized by numerous scandals, and MIKHAIL SERGEYEVICH GORBACHEV (instead of Ronald Reagan who famously made “Mister Gorbachav, tear down this wall.”)
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A hollow award for a hollow man |
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Mr. Justice Burton a High Court judge in London Identified Nine “scientific errors” In Albert Arnold Gore's propaganda documentary, An Inconvenient Truth. The good Justice added that the film should not be seen by British school children without “guidance notes”. God bless the British, they do have a way with words.
In more plain English, Gore’s film has at least nine lies in it and the British High Court has said it should not be seen by British school children in it’s present form. God save the queen, and move over Yasser.
How does a chronic and habitual liar qualify for a Nobel Peace Prize unless the world has gone mad? |
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You Two...Great to read both posts this a.m.
Thanks for the mirth to get the day started.I'm
gonna be singing that song to earth nutter lefty friends all weekend.Irritate the snot out of 'um.
Tookie! I'd completely forgotten that the Tookster
got the Nobel just as the needle entered his butchering arm at SanQ.
Or,as my e-mail to the Gov. at the time said:
"Aww-nold...Pooot Toookie DOWN." :-)))
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Sing to the tune of the children's Sunday School song "Jesus Loves Me, This I Know For the Bible Tells Me So"
Earth is warming this I know
Al Gore's movie tells me so
It's real bad and man's to blame
Those who doubt should be ashamed
Yes, Earth is warming
Yes, Earth is warming
Yes, Earth is warming
The Truth the world must know! |
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the former Senator, formerly of Tennessee, by way of a DC Townhouse.
He is now enshrined with crackpots like Jimmy Carter and murdering thugs like Yasser Arafat (D-Gaza) and Stanley "Tookie" Williams (D-Compton, emeritus).
Truly better to have a sister in a brothel than a brother in that club.
How do you say "I surrender!!" in Esperantu?? |
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...of "glory". They don't get many reasons to crow.
The nobelib prize holds about as much meaning as a good flush.
Goracle got the prize simply because he's an idiot lib...he knows it, i know it and the libs know it...but, like i said, they don't get many chances to gloat.
Best thing to do here is ignore this thread.
annoy a liberal...state facts (something algore can't do) |
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..that the'06,by a hair,election is meaningful for their future is a Hoot.Lads,can you imagine the pain,outrage,paranoia,accusations,lawsuits and
wailing-highchair-pounding fits we're going to be treated to in Nov.'08??
The quiet panic among libs with sense is kinda cute to watch.Hillary is already ceasing to call Iraq,"Bush's War",because....It is growingly obvious to her that WE'RE WINNING!So,now we're hearing from Lady MacClinton things like..."Our troops.."..."Our Surge..."..."Our offensive..."
Oh,Yummy.Can't wait to see a Repub unleashed on her.She has NO Senate Record worth touting and NO executive experience and endless lies,waffling, toadying to the lefty nutters,supporting and disavowing the war,etc,etc.Her very own Demowit Congress is at...what...8% approval.LUV IT! |
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"2010 President Hillary Clinton, for ending the Iraq War
2012 Special Presidential Emissary Bill Clinton, for the so-called Bubbahmedinejahd Pact guaranteeing no U.S. attack on Iran in exchange for a cap of 20 Iranian nuclear weapons.
2018 President Barack Obama, for the Treaty of Kandahar providing for a permanent cessation of hostilities against Al Qaeda and the Taliban."
Unt den ve vill haf Peace in our Time. Ze peace of ze grave. Ze peace of ze concentration camp.
Say goodbye to America, kids. |
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One can be patriotic, one can be liberal. One cannot be patriotic and liberal. Liberals call themselves patriotic because they know, no one associates liberal with patriotic. They like to quote scripture to hide the fact that they hate scripture. Why can't liberals just be honest. They hate the fact that this country was founded by God fearing men. Men, who prayed to and were led by " that man, Christ Jesus ". That faith is the reason that this great country has prospered, as has no other. This faith, in someone greater than yourself, is totally lost on the liberal. Thank God it was not lost on the "founders". Liberals can't stand the fact that they are not God. |
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Funny isn't it. Gore will not debate anyone on his so called warming... Makes you wonder doesn't it.
If he so beleives the truth, then prove it.
Only the weak minded will follow him. |
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Jealous.....
NOT even, it just gives us more to laugh at.
Remember this is the same people who gave the prize known murder of hundreds!
And a washed up Ex-prez who just loves despots!
So yeah buddy, were laughing all the way. |
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?Since Gore’s scientific views on global warming have more wholes than a block of Swiss cheese,
I guess the only thing the PC crowd could give him was the Peace prize. |
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Just imagine the over-the-top fanfare if a wingnut won. But then, that would take brains and a soul, and we know we're not going to find that in the GOP.
Hahahaha. Losers. |
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Yep...I saw. I like that.
I don't know why we can't just speak plainly. Everybody has a label and a pigeonhole.
There needs to be room for nuance.....
That's why I like to call them the Red Menace....it still applies.... |
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The Arafat Prize doesn't quite do it for me as a name. I tried coming up with something along the lines of the "Oh-Hell Fleece Prize", but that didn't pass muster. My final proposal is a name to honor those three winners who by their receipt of the prize have done the most to eviscerate the credibility of the prize itself among those of us with our eyes open and more than three brain cells to rub together. For me, it's henceforth the "Jimmy Gorafat Prize" and for all who care to adopt that moniker.
Maybe I'll get it next year for the restraint I have shown in not defacing bumper stickers on liberals' cars the way they have done to mine. |
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Patrick,
I agree with you 100%. I wrote and published a post today called "Al Gore Wins Nobel Peace Prize - Why???". Here is an excerpt:
"A potential possibility of worldwide doom is not a reason to award the Nobel Peace Prize. It is supposed to be awarded to someone who is actually doing something to promote world peace; instead, the Norwegian Nobel Committee made the decision to give the award to a hypothetical peacemaker."
You may read my entire post, plus my two posts, "Al Gore Causes Global Warming??? - Parts 1 and 2" by visiting my blog at
http://conservativewordsmith.townhall.com.
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That other thread got BDS'd over the top..I think they really believe their own propaganda....did you read my question about the War egg/rooster? I think it's pretty clever.....Broberta is sooooooo angry, why do you think he/she HATES Southerners so, his mother fed him grits one time too many? |
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I imagine if Albert the Great truly believed in man-made 'global warming,' he wouldn't be...tooting around the world in a Leer jet, or using more energy at his mansion than a Vegas hotel.
But I'm just grateful to St. Gore for inventing the internet, and being the inspiration for the sappy "Love Story" !
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to run again, Forest Grump voice" RUN AL RUN!" Oh yeah, that little deal about airline secuity/ campaign cash, might resurface( thanks John Kerry).......nevermind. |
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....the only time Shakespeare is quoted around here, it's the same stupid line?
How about:
"This above all: to thine own self be true,
and it must follow, as the night the day,
thou canst not then be false to any man."
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Sure is a lot of interest in Gore's big Nobel Prize win around here today - for something that "doesn't mean much!" |
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Arafat....
A know murder given the Nobel prize..
NOW that's priceless!
Somehow Bore's prize doen't mean much! |
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The 2006 elections are not an indication of liberalism gaining traction. Republicans aren't acting like republicans (spending like drunken sailors, illegal immigration etc etc). So republicans stayed home.
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Apparently you missed the 2006 elections. |
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I have some bad news for you bama. In spite of what you may see in movies and the media, this country is more conservative than liberal. liberalism is widely rejected if you talk to the average person on the street. Even those that would identify themselves as "liberal", if you were to engage them in even the most benign of conversation would by and large reject most of what moveon.org and the dailykos preach.
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couple of questions...
1. Who is Al Gore?
2. Did Arafat really win a Nobel Peace Prize?
3. Did a UK court really rule against An Inconvenient Truth because it exaggerated points?
4. Will Hugo Chavez be nominated for an Oscar?
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Copy of "Earth in the Balance" - $29.50
Ticket to "An Inconvenient Truth" - $8.50
Listening to neocons whine about Nobel Peace Prize - PRICELESS! |
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Somehow I don't think Obama is going to be Hillary Clinton's Vice President. He's way too inexperienced and his whole campaign as the flavor of the month was simply "Vote For Me--I'm Not Hillary Clinton."
Personally I have no problem with either Clinton winning a Nobel Peace Prize sometime in the future. It's a shame there's no Nobel War Prize. That would go to Dubya, no problemo. |
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Good for Al Gore, a truly accomplished man. It's sad to see the smear merchants on the right go after someone for being honored for trying to make the world a better place. It must be hard to go through life that angry. |
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After all, her husband helped set up the Iraq War and got us bogged down in Bosnia (when amusingly at the time, Republicans were bellyaching about involving ourselves in a conflict that didn't concern us without a clear mission or exit strategy.)
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Yes your sum-what true. Most Rep were belly-aching becuse the EU would not take of this problem in their own back yard. NO-we had to go in, while they offered little help. Have you noticed the killing hasn't stopped. |
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I have no particular comment to make at this time except that it will be fun watching all the spiteful, hateful pundits who do nothing at Townhall except whine and complain have a total meltdown (ha ha ha) over Gore winning the Nobel Peace Prize. I suppose Gore now has the last laugh winning both the Oscar and the Nobel Peace Prize. Now how "cool" is that!? |
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Love your poetry man, are you really from Cuba or just smokin em? I was there in 1996 and just LOVE the people..would love to go back when the bearded one is gone! I was thown out for subversiveness last time....... |
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I think people in 50 years will look back on us when nothing has happened to the weather and think we were all mad.
Oh, and I think you give Hillary too much credit. She’s not leaving Iraq and she will attack Iran because for all her bellyaching about Bush, she too believes in the power of the Unitary Executive and the goal of casting the United States as the world’s policeman.
After all, her husband helped set up the Iraq War and got us bogged down in Bosnia (when amusingly at the time, Republicans were bellyaching about involving ourselves in a conflict that didn't concern us without a clear mission or exit strategy.) |
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The REP AS SO LOW?
Odd..... look at the numbers by the Congress & Senate. Not even in the teens... You guys took over and how low can you go.
But hey, keep dreamimg. |
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Anyone who thinks Bush is worse than that peanut farmer guy either wasn't alive in the seventies or is just too dumb to argue with.... |
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...projecting on conservatives his lust to inflict pain.
He revels on the fact his party made a gain
in the legislative houses 'cause Republicans were vain.
But his darling neo commies have nary won a vote.
Oh, they wail and scream at the Prsident's mote -
But behind closed doors more pork home they do tote.
And in his largesse, bama boy drones on...and...comes up with "small minded"...and thinks that he's won!
Thank you, bama boy, for the comic relief. LMAO, indeed! |
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some of these posts are priceless ... i know the conservatives are deeply hurt by being rejected by a majority of americans and the rest of the world but what did you expect. look honestly at your track record ... no wonder most people find you to be ludcrious.
oh and to the brain fart who claims carter is the most despised ex-president ... dont hold your breath ... bush will automatically take that mantle on jan 20, 2009 ... LMAO ... wow you guys are certainly small minded. |
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...he is now the world's most decorated liar.
The court in UK found 11 major lies in that asinine movie of his, but that never stops the left, does it?
The Nobel Prize has as much credibility as the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame....a complete joke.
I don't know why the press even bothers to cover it.
Al Gore is a man of piece alright...I won't say piece of what.... |
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...henceforth this "Prize" has connotatively become the "Nobel Pus*y Prize". It appears to belong to the weak-kneed liberals who contort themselves into any obscene position of submission to appease their Kommie and Islamic masters. To think we are eating our hearts out at this pathetic "Miss Congeniality" award is as much folly as the fawning admiration Neo Kommies bestow on the recipients.
It's a total LMAO moment! |
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The little know but most infamous accomplishment of AlGore was completely squashing the reforms of airline industry after the downing of TWA 800. He set up a taskforce and they recommended vigourous screening of passengers, which could have kept 9/11 hijackers off of airplanes. He made sure the recommendations were NOT enacted so he could get much needed campaign cash from the major carriers,and lots of cash Clinton/Gore got! Jack Cashill has written extensivly on this and the cover-up of the downing of of TWA 800 |
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Over a lackluster career in the Senate, 8 yrs. as a forgetable VP and now Inconvenient Truth has brought him an Emmy, Nobel. I don't get it.I know the Committee is a bunch of lefties and always has been. After all , Castro, Hitler and Stalin all got nominations. But, this is too much. Please list for me, anyone, 5 legislative, executive, accomplishments by Al Gore over his long career of standing in for his Dad, Al Gore Sr. the racist Senator of Tenn. |
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Gorified but not surprised that Gore is enshrined with Arafat, father of the jihadi homicide bomber, sending the kids to do his dirty work, and Jummy Bob Carter, friend of potantates, Commie dictators and Jihadists, the projection king of all time, worst president and most detested ex-president. |
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"How to Look Manly & Aggressive While Sporting a
Squeaky Lefty Voice". |
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Sure they've handed out some stinkers in the past, but its a pretty prestigious accomplishment nevertheless. Maybe Bush and his cohorts can win an honorary doctorate from Regent University or something.
As the economist Joseph Schumpeter observed, there are certain kinds of service that earns the respect and appreciation of mankind over the longer haul, and other types of service that is forgotten in a day or a generation--however big the stink that's made. Al Gore belongs in the first category. Guys like el Rushbo belong in the second.
Don't forget, my friends: Blessed are the Peacemakers. |
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