Sunday, February 03, 2008
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Older Belligerent Men
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Posted by:
Patrick Ruffini at
2:31 AM
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If John McCain wins the nomination, he’ll do so on the backs of older belligerent men. What is this new swing voter bloc? It’s something I’ve teased out from exit polls and anecdotal observations. It helps explain why McCain has decent enough conservative appeal to keep racking up pluralities in places like South Carolina and Florida. First, the exit polls. McCain does best with older voters. He does better with men than women. He wins military veterans and those who believe the war in Iraq is the most important issue. None of this should be surprising. All of these qualities apply to McCain personally. But there is something more raw and instinctual at work here too. Older belligerent men are not afraid of confrontation, either personally or politically. I’ve heard more than one guy mention McCain’s volcanic temper as a positive. They equate this with toughness against our enemies. A commenter on my previous post also reminded me again of McCain’s family origins: like many Southerners, he’s Scots-Irish and has the temperament to match. If you’re not an ideologically driven activist, and you fit the profile of an older belligerent man, you’ll probably end up choosing the Jacksonian flag & country candidate over the corporate titan. And what of Romney? While McCain promises to kneecap anyone causing you problems (doesn’t matter it it’s terrorists or pharmaceutical companies) Romney pledges to manage them away with quiet efficiency. This has led to some harsh assessments from the Tough SOB caucus, starting with Steyn: This problem is entirely of Romney’s making. He needed a Mister-Moderator-I’m-paying-for-this-microphone moment, and every time McCain offered him one, with some contemptuous snarl in his direction, Mitt would put on his more-in-sorrow-than-in-anger expression and say prissily that he wasn’t going to descend to personal attacks. It’s never good to play to your caricature, and Mitt’s caricature (as Kathryn well knows) is that he’s an insipid technocrat Ken doll propped up by a lavishly funded campaign. I mentioned a day or two back the Powerline post about McCain’s willingness to knee his opponents in their privates. By just taking it, debate after debate, Mitt gave the impression that, like Ken, he didn’t even have private parts to be kneed in.
Indeed. Remember that ad up in New Hampshire in which McCain called Romney a phony? Responding to this exact situation eight years ago — when McCain lost it and compared Bush to Clinton — an angry, steely faced George W. Bush went on camera and cut an ad that won him South Carolina. Romney sent out a press release comparing the two, but there was no indignance from the candidate, and no response ad. It was the same with Giuliani. Rudy stood by and took it as McCain injected Bernie Kerik in a fairly personal critique of Giuliani’s leadership, and even raised the Ground Zero swiftboats as an issue. In a previous post, Hugh equates the current struggle against McCain with Harriet Miers and the 2007 McCain-Kennedy bill. But there seems to be a misapprehension here about how information moves from opinion leaders to the base, and who the target audience is. In the Miers case, it was a fight amongst legal elites. Having no dog in the fight, the general Republican electorate eventually fell in line with the anti-Miers forces. Likewise, immigration was a tiff between party activists and Congress; our levers of influence were clear. Changing the trajectory of this primary is a lot trickier. Like Miers and immigration, the argument has been won amongst the activist class (this is why establishment conservatives are finally falling in line, and why Romney wins caucus votes everywhere but the South). The problem is that we also have to convince a plurality of 15-20 million primary voters with countervailing interests, starting in 22 states, not just that McCain is wrong but that Romney is the answer. And the lines of influence aren’t always clear. Do radio hosts based in DC, New York, and Palm Beach matter as much in places like Huntsville, Alabama and Murfreesboro, Tennessee — where McCain is good enough for many war-minded, loosely attached conservatives? This is not a call to despair. It’s a call to get to work. Whatever the outcome on Tuesday, it’s time to reconnect the movement we all know from the blogosphere and radio with its rural, Jacksonian base.
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In other words - curmudgeons. |
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"Does the appearance of having a pair of b@lls sway your vote?"
You'd think with all that money Romney could buy a pair.
SIDENOTE: My wife theorizes, and I agree, that Romney is actually covering up a violent temper that he dare not let the public see. |
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“Senator, you’ve asked for an alternate plan for dealing with the 11 million illegal aliens in the US, and that plan has been documented by Mark Krikorian of Center for Immigration Studies. It’s called “Attrition through Enforcement.”
“So Senator, you crack down on the employers as you promised to do 20 years ago when you voted for the “one time amnesty,” end the publicly-funded benefits to illegal aliens and their families, end government grants to agencies who help illegal aliens, and end “anchor baby” citizenship. That won’t require a constitutional amendment as you claim–we need only to pass HR 698. So that leaves you to show whether you’re a man of your word and do as you promised.”
“The agencies that will be responsible for administering and enforcing your McCain-Kennedy Amnesty (and it IS an amnesty, Senator)…”
He then interrupted with a condescending one-liner, “..then you’re reading a different dictionary than I am…” to which I replied, “Senator, I don’t used dictionaries to read laws. I read this law in United States Code Title 8, Section 1324. Section 1324 defines illegal presence in the US and prescribes only 1 penalty for illegal presence in the US–deportation.”
“The two Dept of Homeland Security agencies charged with insuring compliance are CIS–Citizenship & Immigration Services and ICE–Immigration & Customs Enforcement. Their historical incompetence and non-performance of their job is well-documented by the GAO. Senator, these are the same people who mailed automatic renewals of student visas to flight schools for the killers in the 9/11. Senator, how do you expect Americans to believe that your promises of enforcement will be fulfilled by such people?”
He never answered how agencies that can’t and won’t enforce current laws can enforce new ones. It’s clear that despite the overwhelming voter opposition, it didn’t change McCain’s determination to shove this down our throats, just as he did in 1986.
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I plan on voting for Mitt but I sure wish he would get a more practical solution for immigration. It's just stupid to say we are going to round them all up and send them back.
Take a look at what is happening in Oklahoma. They have brought the hammer down on employers. Refused all social services to illegals. They are leaving Oklahoma in droves.
We only need to start enforcing the laws that are already here.
I also think we could give 5 years visa's to people who come here for work only. In some fields we do need the labor. They would have to pay their taxes(not claim 15 dependents) and would not be provided any social services.
But under no circumstance would they ever become an American citizen. Of course unless they went home and applied the legal way. |
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point about Mr.GRRRRRRRRRRRR. There's not a doubt in my mind that the Dems, Libs, Lefties and their press lapdogs will turn their slime on McCain with withering intensity, particularly if the nominee is Lady MacClinton(and her hubby). I can almost see John's red faced rage and stunned look of betrayal. They'll have him spluttering and spinning like a superheated top in no elapsed time. No Brainer. What better way for Hillary to look like the lessor of 2-evils quickly. Johnny will look like a lunatic before they're through, and the obedient press ho's will have the cameras rolling and be gasping surprise & wonderment at the Senator's "change".
If the candidate is Obama, I'm afraid all he's got to do is have photo ops--call them debates--beside Little Man John and it's a Done Deal.
So, Phil, McCain(Not my man)still has the right fire in his belly on the War. That trumps it all for me(and Hugh). He'll have my vote if it comes to him being the nom. The Democrats proved beyond ALL question in their Hollywood debate last week that they MUST NOT be running foreign policy. Particularly their plans for Retreat, Cowardice and leaving our friends with broken promises and the tender mercies of mass butchers. |
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The Libs and Dems aren't critizing Sen. McCain yet because they are much to busy at present. The Libs are busy criticizing Sen. Clinton and the Dems are busy criticizing Sen. Obama. This of course is nothing new to primary politics. Sen. McCain is not entirely off the Libs political radar as a piece aired yesterday on National Public Radio will demonstrate.
Misperceptions About McCain's Abortion Stance
The misperception is interesting, considering that McCain has not attempted to keep his pro-life views a secret. Here's how he put it on an appearance last year on NBC's Meet the Press:
"I have stated time after time after time that Roe v Wade was a bad decision, that I support a woman — the rights of the unborn — that I have fought for human rights and human dignity throughout my entire political career," McCain said. "To me, it's an issue of human rights and human dignity."
And while now former candidate Fred Thompson, the former senator from Tennessee, won the coveted endorsement from the National Right to Life Committee, McCain's voting record on the issue is just fine, says David O'Steen, the group's executive director.
"He's been very consistent; he hasn't changed his position," O'Steen says. He says that his group has supported McCain in every one of his senate races. "We've always considered him pro-life," he says.
Nancy Keenan, president of NARAL Pro-Choice America, says her group has always considered McCain pro-life as well. And it's not just abortion, she says.
"He voted against family planning, he voted against the freedom of access to clinic entrances — that was about violence against women in clinics," Keenan says, adding, "He voted against funding for teen pregnancy-prevention programs, and making sure that abstinence only was medically accurate. This is very, very extreme."
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The problem with you comment is that you fail to point out that McCain is wildly popular among Dems and liberals. I don't hear any libs criticizing him. That is why us conservatives will never vote for him. |
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Wow, Mittens is winning Maine, that bastion of Republican base. Next he will carry Utah, what a suprise (of course, that is the state he receives his marching order from). No shock there.
Stick a fork in Mittens, he is done! McCain is going to romp Mittens on Tuesday and ride that big MO all the way to the victory in November.
Hopefully, it will be enough to drive Rush "fat grease" Limbaugh and Ann "scarecrow" Coulter over the edge. As a life long Republican, it's time to take our party back from the far right who think they have the moral ground to tell everyone how they should vote. The backlash against them is fantastic.
Go McCain!!!!!! |
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...you work on your rural Jacksonian base. It should be a nice fit with your "metro conservatives." We Dems will continue to cultivate the Whig states, the Lincoln states--what our cultural and moral heritage shows to be the better part of our Union. |
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Our Democrat Illinois Governor passed a law barring any company from accessing the national data base to check legal status of job applicants or employees.
Of course we are being sued by the federal government. But I wonder how hard the feds will work to win that one ? In your face America.
Also this is pretty funny. I mentioned Evanston Illinois has declared itself to be a sanctuary city. This is one of the most upscale elite liberal cities in Illinois. Illegals can't afford to live there. But they can come in to clean their homes and take care of their children. |
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This blog opens up with
"If John McCain wins the nomination, he’ll do so on the backs of older belligerent men."
It doesn't say the elderly.
It says "older belligerent men".
It doesn't say support.
It says "on the backs"
This blog is cheap and insulting to the demographic mentioned. Silly blogs bring silly posts. |
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Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!
Just a quote from the most belligerent old man of the 20th century. The Dems also said he was a lunatic.
Belligerent old men believe that there exists in the world something that the Libs fail to recognize - Evil. Belligerent old men have been around long enough to have seen it in its various forms.
A reminder yesterday from Iraq that the belligerent old men are right on this point - two homicide bombings by al-Quaida using women with Downs Syndrome. These unwitting victims were packed with vest bombs, and remotely detonated in a pet market and pigeon market killing over 100. But you may asks how could this possibly be successful given the increased security in Iraq.
Maj. Gen. Jeffery Hammond, the top U.S. commander in Baghdad, said the women appeared to be unwitting attackers.
"It appears the suicide bombers were not willing martyrs, they were used by al-Qaida for these horrific attacks," he said. "These two women were likely used because they didn't understand what was happening and they were less likely to be searched."
Iraqi officials said they had pictures of the two women's heads that were found at the scene that proved they had Down syndrome, and they said the explosives had been detonated by remote-control.
Iraqis said one of the bombers wasn't searched because she was known as a local beggar and the male guards were reluctant to search women because of Islamic sensitivities.
This truly is evil. The Libs relativist morality nonsense fails to account for the behavior of our depraved enemies. |
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So can we assume you are a "Soylent Green" kind of guy? |
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Thanks Pasadena, then I'm with Patrick
Old people should not be allowed to vote or hold public office. |
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20-30 million citizens of other countries are in our country illegally, 55% from Mexico, most of the rest from other Central and South American countries. Let's not ignore the leftward voting trends of these countries. It is notable that they picked May Day, an old communist day of celebration for their marches.
Most polls show at least half of the American citizens of Hispanic descent want the borders and laws enforced. Republicans will not win by alienating their current voters to get 40% of a new small block that will grow very large, very fast if amnesty is granted. That will grow the Democrats vote larger and faster as the influx increases exponentially as the result of another amnesty. It will spell the end of the Republican Party. The people who used to vote Republican will stop voting or form a new party. Conservatives will lose political influence and we will slide inexorably towards socialism (it has already started).
Most of what you hear about this issue is political propaganda that tries to convince you to give up your country without a fight, including on Fox News. The big money players are all on board the cheap labor express, they care not that American citizens do not want another amnesty. We know the last one resulted in 10 times the number of illegal aliens and a general disregard of our laws. The next one will be equally successful.
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Actually it IS news if you place it into the context of the youthful message of "change" and "looking ahead to the future" the better funded Hillary/Obama ticket will throw at the ghostly McCain. That is the point and is why Dems can't wait for McCain to win the nomination. By next Sunday, assuming McCain declares victory, you McCainiacs may be shocked by how your friends in the media suddenly pick up on all the things us conservatives were pointing out about your man. The only friends McCain will have is Fox News. |
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This is what illegal aliens chant at their rallies (Obama does too)
Si se puede (Yes We Can)
Yes we can:
Ignore your laws.
Enter your country any time we feel like it.
Collect benefits to which we are not entitled.
Tell you what your immigration policies should be.
File thousands of lawsuits to prevent you from enforcing your laws.
Vote in your elections fradulently.
Take your country.
For all of you who still think what is happening is immigration and not colonization, look at this:
http://kevinmccullough.townhall.com/g/4fc77b87-d48d-4937-9e 71-df23d96bec09
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re: "I mentioned a day or two back the Powerline post about McCain’s willingness to knee his opponents in their privates. By just taking it, debate after debate, Mitt gave the impression that, like Ken, he didn’t even have private parts to be kneed in."
Romney is either getting very bad advice from his campaign or he is ignoring good advice. Romney HAS demonstrated at least twice that he can do indignation as well as anyone but he just doesn't seem to have the guile to use it as a weapon. |
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Is this breaking news? Women vote for Hillary. Blacks and intellectuals vote for Obama. Jesus Freaks vote for Huckabee. Business owners vote for Romney. Old white geezers and military types vote for McCain. Often people don't vote the issues---they vote for candidates with whom they identify. This makes them feel that they are going to get their way. Don't you remember hearing a zillion born-again Christians say "Now we've got one of our own in the White House"? (Oh, yeah. And how has that been working?) |
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This is not Hugh's blog, it's Patrick Ruffini's. |
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The Old should not be allowed to vote.
I'm with Hugh on this one. |
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I am sure you know that.
Another example of Big Business tryin' to finesse the vote. |
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Let me tell a story that happened to me.
My management position at work is being considered to become union.
A representative from SEUI showed up in my office to try and get me to sign their union card. I told him no thanks. He asked what problem I had with his union. I stated I would never join a union that actively recruited illegals for American jobs. He agreed with me said he had the same problem with his union.
A few days later I received a call from ASME.I said I would be interested in their union for job security. I told him about my conversation with SEUI. And oh by the way you don't recruit illegals do you ? He stated they do not discriminate. I asked what that meant and he would not elaborate. How about just abiding by the law. Needless to say I'll do without a union.
Wake up America. This is what McCain will bring us.
I mentioned before illegals already vote in Chicago. I know many precinct captains and they do not ask for I.D.'s. Our board of elections president is David Orr and he is run by the Democratic Hispanic Organization.
Evanston Illinois just proclaimed it's a sanctuary city. Like we didn't already know that. But it's just in your face America. Take that. |
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Your polls are never wrong. You have convinced us all that Rudy is THE ONLY ONE who can beat Hillary. You were so convincing that I just can't give up on Rudy. Somehow, something, maybe divine intervention, will come through for Rudy. It just isn't possible that your polls were wrong. |
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It is important to remember that Britt Hume, William Kristol and Juan Williams had all declared the amnesty bill a done deal before the final vote to kill it. The only panel member with any integrity and no discernable agenda is Mara Eliason. It seems that the higher their cable viewer numbers climb, the more liberal and pandering they are. At least the "enemedia" is excited with the GOP internal struggles and acknowledges talk radio as being an important player. It is the assumed "conservative" establishment that has sold us out from top to bottom. Is TH part of the movement or just a GOP organ no matter what? |
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FOX and Murdoch play us.
All the time.
They think we're stupid. |
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Yeah, maybe it's Fox News we need to kick out of our lives. The "enemedia" is giving conservatives a fairer shake than our "friends" who are already stabbing us in the back like their beloved McCain.
Warning: Do not be comforted when McCain refers to you as a "friend". He only stabs his "friends" in the back. It's all part of the Orwellian wonder of being John McCain. |
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I can't even stand to watch. Yesterday they called conservatives who did not support McCain -'ultra-right'!
I think CNN is more balanced in it's Republican coverage. Even Scarbourgh on MSNBC is more fair that FOX.
Remember Murdoch IS Big Business and Big Business wants Illegal slave labor!!!
GO MITT!!! STOP MCCAIN!!! |
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Their analysis of super tuesday was WAY wide open!
Of course they DID call Huck nothing but a spoiler with a 'man-crush' on McCain. |
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I was surprised that they were much more open-minded and excited about the GOP race than Fox who has already closed discussion and awarded the nomination to McCain without even bringing up the controversy within the party. No mention of talk radio which MTP discussed endlessly. Fox is not conservative. It is a tool for certain one-world interests. |
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AZ is too close to call and look at this in CA:
http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSN034586612008020 3?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&rpc=22&sp=true
There is no way McCain can win in November if he can't beat Romney in CA in the primary.
BTW, I'm still predicting Giuliani is going to be the next president based on all those polls you cut and pasted and linked to over the past year. As you have repeatedly demonstrated, polls are never wrong. Clearly, Giuliani is the ONLY ONE who can beat Hillary. Oh, and "Meet the Press" just showed a poll that shows McCain is matching up poorly against both Hillary and Obama. You better send them YOUR polls. |
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I'm sure someone has answered this, but I don't feel like reading the whole all the messages here. Being born in a foreign territory is not an issue. As long as your parents are citizens, you are a citizen and qualified to run for President.
I believe this was also an issue raised with Herbert Hoover.
I was once told by a history professor that the same objection was made about Barry Goldwater, since he was born in the territory of Arizona.
Lastly, I also read once that Phil Sheridan vigorously denied he had been born on the boat coming from Ireland since this would have disqualified him for the Presidency.
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Attack ads win. They always have, and always will.
McCain is throwing lie after lie at Romney, and if Romney wants to win he needs to be twice as dirty.
McCain has the worst record of any Republican in the race. Romney needs to expose that to the voters.
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Absolutely correct. This is NOT about immigration. Immigration into the U.S. (legally) is a specified, legal and time-consuming process.
The millions of Mexicans and South Americans and others flooding and invading this country from crossing the Mexican border without legal documentation are not immigrants, and it is vital that people stop thinking that they are. By their very entry into the country, they are illegal aliens and they break our laws by setting foot on U.S. soil illegally.
That would be bad enough. I have not seen any concrete evidence that the millions and millions of them want to become citizens, want to earn their citizenship, want to learn the national language, want to assimilate. LaRaza is out on the streets demanding "rights" (a misnomer when it comes to criminals) -- but never are they out demanding "equal chance to become American citizens."
Cheap Mexican and South American labor is about special interests, corporate special interests. Clearly, for politicians like McCain who has betrayed conservative ideals left and right, such special interests are fine -- and preferred over the interests of American citizens. |
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McCain up on Super Tuesday
Georgia (Mac up by 3.5, Mitt in third): http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/ga/ georgia_republican_primary-267.html
Tennesee: (Mac up by 5.3, Mitt in third): http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/tn/ tennessee_republican_primary-541.html
Alabama: (Mac up by 6.5, Mitt way back in third): http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/al/ alabama_republican_primary-280.html
And McCain is trouncing Romney in all the Middle Atlantic States, Illinois, and Arizona.
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Yes, hispanics can certainly be as American as you or I, I know some. However, Mexicans are not Americans, Guatamalans are not Americans, Hondurans are not Americans, El Salvadorans are not Americans. They can be, IF they apply for legal entry and follow our EXISTING path to citizenship. When someone lets himself into your house without your permission, do you consider him a guest? I don't. Invasion is not the right term, but what is happening is NOT immigration. People do not have an unlimited right to "migrate" from their country to ours. I know many immigrants from all over the world and it is especially for them that I oppose amnesty for illegal aliens. Some have waited years in refugee camps in southeast asia for their chance to become Americans. They respect this country, our laws, language and culture. All of them took the time, effort and expense to do it the right way. We should honor all those who have and not insult their sacrifices with another amnesty. The amnesty of 1986 has resulted in 10 times the number of illegal aliens and a general disregard for our laws. Another amnesty would be equally successful. |
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You do have a way with words. |
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We the People of the United States of America have the right to have our borders and our laws respected and enforced.
Citizens of other countries illegally in our country have no right to demand anything from our government. They most certainly have the right to petition the governments of their home countries for change if they are unhappy with their home country. If they want to be Americans, we have a path to citizenship, more generous than any other nation, and it starts in their home country.
We need to insist on the equal protection, application and enforcement of the law or devolve into anarchy. Our Republic only functions if everyone follows the same rules. We should not change the laws to accomodate those breaking them.
If America annouces to the world "We can't stop you, so come on in" with another amnesty, the deluge will be overwhelming. If 3,000 a day didn't get your attention, then wait until it's 10,000 a day. We cannot sustain this influx and survive as a nation. We must speak up and speak to each other about this and not let false claims of racism or bigotry be used to intimidate us into silent assent. America is not Congress' to give away. America belongs to We the People. Speak to your neighbors, speak to your coworkers, but please speak up to your Congressmen and Senators. It's O.K. for us to enforce our laws, no really, it is.
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Romney has to stand up to McCain and challenge him to list even ONE major accomplishment from his 25 years in the Senate. "Frankly, the only things I remember was McCain's delivering victory after landmark victory to the Democrats! Did you ever do anything for OUR side?" |
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When I heard McCain's Hispanic Outreach guy was none other than Smiling Juan Hernandez, I knew John McCain has heard nothing we have had to say.
Smiling Juan Hernadez
We know who he is, we know his loyalties are to Mexico, we know he wants to erase our borders and immigration laws.
JOHN MCCAIN, YOU NEED A NEW HEARING AID
Smiling Juan Hernandez
In case you don't know him, he used to work for the Mexican govt., lately he has been shilling for "rights" for illegal aliens in this country. He has said he wants Mexicans to remain Mexicans even if they are living here. His loyalties are to Mexico, not U.S.
Questions for illegal alien apologists like John McCain:
Why does The National Council of the Race (la raza in spanish) and the Chamber of Commerce get to negotiate a "Comprehensive Shafting of The American Citizens" behind closed doors? Since when does an organization representing foreign nationals breaking our laws get to rewrite our immigration laws to suit the lawbreakers? Isn't this akin to allowing NAMBLA to rewrite our laws regarding child predators? Or allowing organized crime syndicates to rewrite racketeering, gambling, prostitution, and extortion laws?
We The People are being told by our representatives that we should sit down and shut up while they invite in the entire world. We The People should get some say in this matter. Another amnesty will set off a stampede like we have never seen before. There is not much time to save our country. All the money and power are on the side of shoving this amnesty down our throats. The RNC wants an amnesty candidate, don't vote for one. |
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The problem is not immigration per se. After all, we've had an open immigration policy most of our history -- you know, that whole "melting pot" thing. So let's not ignore that bit of history, either.
So the question is, why is immigration a problem now? If these immigrants are indeed "voting for more of the same crap that made Mexico a socialist hell-hole", WHY are they voting for that stuff -- and WHY is that sort of socialistic legislation and policies -- and the politicians that push it -- even on the ballot for them to vote for it?
I'll give you a hint why. WHO has always claimed to be the defender of capitalism and freedom and the opponent of socialism? WHO has always promised to uphold a free market and limited government? Republicans and, most especially, CONSERVATIVES!!
And who has BETRAYED all of those values -- capitalism, free markets and limited government -- by giving in time and time again to those pushing socialism? CONSERVATIVES!
How did they betray these things? Romney is a perfect example: by signing socialized medicine into law -- instead of vetoing it and fighting it tooth and nail -- he implements the very thing he claims to oppose. And YOU betray those values when you agree that socialized medicine is a “good idea“.
But you’re not alone. The sainted Ronald Reagan, who came to Washington promising to reduce government, nonetheless promised in his very first inaugural address that funding for welfare programs for the “truly needy” would NOT be cut. The result: non-defense spending DOUBLED under Reagan.
So don’t blame the immigrants for voting for the very programs your conservatives are now refusing to fight. |
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Patrick doesn't post often but comes up with some of the most interesting observations. Post more often Patrick! |
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"If you’re not an ideologically driven activist, and you fit the profile of an older belligerent man, you’ll probably end up choosing the Jacksonian flag & country candidate over the corporate titan."
If I'm reading my Ruffini correctly (maybe not), is this a way of alluding to the (pre-GOP) Whigs vs Jacksonian Democratic Party dynamic? In other words, the GOP is presenting a Jacksonian Democrat as their candidate? Talk about walking right into the Obama message of moving forward. He tagged Hillary with "20th century candidate" but the GOP is offering a 19th century candidate? Old, cranky and ghostly white versus young, upbeat, positive, charismatic and so on...? What is are the GOP establishment elites thinking!?!?! There is only one explanation. The GOP elites are in the tank for a Democratic victory. Hillary lover Rupert Murdoch's Fox News team is already slobbering over McCain. Come on Mitt. Think third party. Your chances in 2012 will be much better coming in second in a new party than dropping out and simply waiting as McCain destroys the GOP. If the party won't help you build a case for 2012, do it yourself. Lincoln did it with a more difficult message and in more difficult circumstances. Work out a deal with CPAC to endorse you EVEN IF MCCAIN WINS!! |
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"Racist", my A**! The comfy place for scoudrels is working good for you, MS. McJuan thanks you. The old tried & true RACE CARD. Gotta luv it. Um, you are a Liar. There, Boy-yo. A lying liar who lies. The terms of sarcasm, as you well know, are for their enabler & dissembler, McCain. It ain't Germans, French or Hungarians...NOT Chinese, Japanese or Phillipinos...Not Ukrainians or Belorussians who are FLOODING our Gates Illegally. It's Latins, thus we're not sarcastically calling their enabler & abettor McPierre or McYamada. Get it? Racist, my A**!
Mike: You're using by-the-numbers PC-Thought Police sillyness. "Immigration" is good. Actually, wonderful. But, that isn't the concern and you know it. ILLEGAL ALIENS is the unvarnished, truthful term. "Undocumented Immigrants" is the swell, specious, false, mealy-mouthed PC Acceptable Term. ILLEGAL ALIENS is the accurate, spot-on term. Millions of them are here ILLEGALLY. Tidal Waves. Not to change their country, but to change ours. My friends of Latino origin range from Native Chicanos to naturalized Salvadoreans, Argentinians, Venezuelans and MEXICANS. Nearly all of them hold the Illegal Invasion in contempt. And, many of them express that opinion in far more profane & blunt terms than I can do here.
I have a valued friend named Kelvin. He's in L.A. working on his Masters and loves this country and is here Legally. He's going through the American Citizenship process and is bothered regularly by the burdensome requirements of INS bureaucrats. THE same INS folks who look the other way for millions of utterly ignorant Illegal Aliens from Mexico. Kelvin plays by the rules. America is worth every frustration. He has MUCH to offer America. Very different from the uneducated tidal wave who committ a felony by enetreing this land. |
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Romney has nothing to knee because he is a liberal. Ya know how a business man is going to run the government? Anytime he needs money to pay for something, like his mandated healthcare, he's going to tax you. That's where governments get there money and Romney cares about one thing: money. It is unbelieveable to me that Romney gets any support from conservatives. Ann Coulter was right, conservatives are stupid. |
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I just watched the new Obama video.It's hard to see how the old cranky guy(with dementia) can go up against such a young vibrant hopeful guy as Obama.
My being from Chicago I have watched Obama's career for years. Obama may not walk the walk but he's very good at talking the talk.
Obama history. Obama was not well known an an Illinois State legislature. He had no major accomplishment. His first run for Washington was for congress against Bobby Rush(former Black Panther).He lost that race. Black people on the southside did not like Obama. They called him uppity and too well spoken.
It's was just amazing to me. I couldn't believe they would choose a black panther over this obviously well spoken, intelligent man.
Next came the race for U.S. Senate. This is where luck played a major role and I would say destiny.
He was not the choice of the well established Chicago Democrat party. His opponent was a wealthy Chicago businessman. I can't remember his name. This is where we found out Obama plays Chicago hard ball with the best of them.
Approximately a week before the primary the front runners divorce papers are revealed and he was a wife beater. Lucky break for Obama. Yeah right. He is now the Democrat nominee.
Next comes the general election. His opponent was Jack Ryan. A wealthy suburban business man favored to win. Surprise, surprise Jack Ryans sealed divorce papers come out. Seems Jack liked taking his wife to kinky sex clubs.
The Illinois Republicans were devastated. Their Republican governor was on trial for corruption and now this. Jack Ryan was asked to step down. Like I said Obama plays hard ball with the best of them.
Illinois Republicans brought in Allen Keyes to go against Obama. Big, big mistake.
This guy is very, very lucky. A very tough vicious politician and most people believe to be destined.
The old cranky guy will have no chance against Obama. I hear John also has many skeletons in his
divorce closet.
Wake up Republicans.
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Will be a Phyrric victory. Remember that. |
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"The Mexicans that seek to escape the socialist hell-hole called Mexico for freedom and opportunity" Were they learning english and following our laws I would believe that, but instead they come here and tribalize, ignore our laws, AND VOTE FOR THE SAME DAMN CRAP THAT MADE MEXICO A SOCIALIST HELLHOLE! or at least intend to.
You are a poor student of history. How often has the greatest nation of its time collapsed due to internal forces? Answer: virtually every time.
How exactly do you think we can protect this country from terrorists if we can't even keep the southern border secure.
And have you taken a look at europe lately? They have had about the same concern about their borders as we have and they are having huge problems. I wouldn't be suprised if europe was an islamic state in 50 years through immigration alone! If you don't think immigration is a threat then take a long hard look at europe first. Make sure you remember that America has a culture, and the illegals are not adopting it, and that is what will destroy us. |
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If you knew anything about Presidential politics, you would know polls mean NOTHING at this point.
McCain is the liberal medias choice to win the republican nomination not the Presidency.
When McCain gets the nomination the PRESS WILL TRASH HIM.
This is why republicans need talk radio to counter the attacks from the media.
his is exactly what they did with ush.
When the media went after Bush with the last minute drunk driving charge, talk radio defended Bush.
McCain will not have the base, talk radio or the money to counter attacks!!
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if you use the words "Juan", "McMexican", to describe John McCain, both of which I have seen on this website on numerous occassions.
You are also proving what several of us have long suspected: that your real complaint against illegal immigration has less to do with upholding the law (as you righteously claim) and more to do with your dislike for Mexicans. You ARE a bigot if you hold this view, make no mistake, and you're not wanted in the Republican party. Get out. |
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"implemented socialized medicine in his home state"
Yes, yes, yes, it was all Romney. When he was governor he ... was ... GOD! What he said went and he dictated to his inferiors, THOU SHALT HAVE SOCIALIZED MEDICINE! All with no input from the liberal democrat state legislature or the electorate that demanded it.
Or maybe not, it could be that the entire state was demanding a plan and he just said "Fine, but lets try to do it my way if we have to." And looking at the rationale for his plan it does look like a relatively good idea on paper, now there may some problems in practice. I have to admit that this is my biggest problem with Romney, I don't like government forced health care, but it is something he has said he won't implement nationally. Which is a far more convincing statement than McCain grudgingly saying he won't push the amnesty bill again... maybe. |
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Personally, I hope if it is McCain/Huckabee ticket.
This way we can get rid of both of them in one shot.
McCain/Huckabee would lose so bad, their names will be mud within the republican party.
This is the one good thing that will come out of this.
McCain and Huckabee will be like McGovern or Mondale in the democrat party.
I will relish in the demise of the conservative traitor McCain and the BIGOT Huckabee. |
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Some might fail to appreciate Romney's determination and grit, without which he could not possibly have achieved all he has clearly accomplished in both business and political life. McCain's childish outbursts and snide remarks are not worthy of comparison on any level.
McCain and Clinton are classic bullies, and bullying shouldn't be confused with "strength". Romney is correct to avoid wallowing in the muck that reflects McCain's instinctive approach to disagreement and differences. So while the most effective theoretical response to bully behavior might be to verbally or physically slap the offender silly, that is unlikely to be Romney's adult choice; and he doesn't deserve criticism for it. |
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DHOwen asked:
"Would someone like to explain how winning the War on Terror while surrendering to an illegal invasion is OK with anyone?"
The Mexicans that seek to escape the socialist hell-hole called Mexico for freedom and opportunity in the United States are not in any fashion comparable to the Islamic terrorists that seek the destruction of America. The former want (for the most part) to PARTICIPATE in a free socio-economic system while the latter want to DESTROY such a system and replace it with an Islamic dictatorship.
Yes, there are some Mexicans seeking to come here to take advantage of our welfare state benefits -- but the proper response to that is to advocate the elimination of the welfare state, not merely its restriction to Americans. |
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Anyone who knows anything about politics knows this.
This is why Karl Rove made sure he went after the base first with Bush.
John McCain will not have the base.
John Mccain without the base and money is toast!!
If John McCain had a chance, money would be pouring in to his campaign.
Most people who DONATE give to Clinton, Obama or not at all.
Giving your money to McCain is like throwing it down a black hole.
Clinton/Obama will be the ticket and against the WASHINGTON RELIC McCAIN THEY WILL WIN ALL 50 STATES!!
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The Mittwits and the Chatterati spent weeks trashing Huckabee, labelling his positions as liberal or populist, and his supporters as ignorant, Mormon-hating bigots. It wasn't personal, it was just business ("Welcome to the top tier" they all said to Huck). What's happening now, though, is not what they expected. The Huckabee supporters did not take the cue that being called stupid stupidheads meant that they were supposed to switch to supporting Romney (he being the "most conservative choice"). Maybe it was that Romney switched sides on several major conservative position at the same time. Maybe people remembered that Mitt enacted a program that used state power to force people to spend money on health insurance. Maybe it's that Mitt promises giant federal grants to specific industries, depending on where he is campaigning. Maybe it's just that people don't like being called bigots, when they're not. Whatever the reason, the Mittwits' claim that Romney is the "most conservative" choice is just not resonating.
So now, McCain is getting the most votes. And the Mittwits are screaming "apocalypse!". And they keep saying that a vote for Huckabee is a vote for McCain. But the Huck supporters, apparently, angry and the treatment of their candidate and themselves, would just as soon vote McCain over Romney anyway. Not really the best choice, perhaps. But these kind of things happen when one burns bridges so relentlessly. |
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McCain is easiest to beat.
Presidential campaigns are against Washington.
John McCain is Washington.
The G.O.P. is about to nominate a 24 year Washington Insider and they will lose every state.
The press will play McCain saying we could be in Iraq for 100 years over and over again.
The press will paint him as a warmonger who has been in Washington too long.
Without talk radio and the money to counter these attacks McCain is TOAST!!
I said Rudy would be toast once the media went after him and he tanked.
Polls showing McCain ahead or beating Clinton or Obama mean nothing.
This is McCain getting a free ride by the media.
Once he secures the nomination they will rip him apart.
Without the base, McCain is toast!! |
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Pat wrote: 'This is not a call to despair.'
Uh, okay.
Here's the RCP averages for today:
National McCain + 18.0 Clinton + 7.3
California McCain + 5.0 Clinton + 2.5
New York McCain + 27.8 Clinton + 20.3
Illinois McCain + 14.0 Obama + 28.3
Missouri McCain + 7.0 Clinton + 3.6
New Jersey McCain + 23.0 Clinton + 8.0
Massachusetts Romney + 25.3 Clinton + 17.5
Arizona McCain + 16.3 Clinton + 6.0
Georgia McCain + 3.7 Obama + 14.0
Tennessee McCain + 5.3 Clinton + 17.3
Alabama McCain + 6.5 Clinton + 1.5
Connecticut McCain + 22.0 Clinton + 3.4
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Whatever happened to that phrase, "As Maine goes so does the nation."?
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AJC-Tension over the Republican race for president bubbled into the open on Saturday, as Georgia’s two U.S. senators endorsed John McCain — to the outrage and disappointment of many of the activists who form the party’s base.
Talk about the move by Saxby Chambliss, who is up for re-election this year, and Johnny Isakson filled the hallways at the annual winter meeting of the Georgia Christian Alliance, a gathering of religious conservatives that attracts many Republican activists.
Both senators are to appear at a 5:30 p.m. McCain rally at the Cobb Galleria.
Isakson attended the GCA meeting this morning.
“The war in Iraq — the war on terror — is to me the most important issue we face,” Isakson said afterwards, explaining why he had cast his personal vote for McCain the day before.
Isakson also mentioned McCain’s opposition to the growth of the federal budget, and uncontrolled spending through “earmarks.”
“He was strong on that before it was cool.”
Said Chambliss, in a telephone interview:
“We’re a strong military state and we need a strong commander in chief,” the senior senator said. “At the end of the day, we’ve got to rally around the fellow that can win.”
READ MORE
http://controlcongress.com/uncategorized/isakson-chambliss- endorse-mccain
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It's entirely theoretical. There has been remarkably little acknoweldged by Romney's campaign and his supporters about his actual weaknesses and failures on the campaign trail. Every "negative" I have ever seen any of them admit always turns out to be a denial. In other words, they'll say, "Mitt failed to make everyone see how truly brilliant and amazing he is." "Mitt is too much of a gentleman."
Sorry, but these aren't weaknesses. That sort of faux soul-searching is what the slimy Clinton and Edwards did when asked about their greatest weaknesses. They instead bragged, "My weakness is I just care about other people's pain too much!"
Romney and his apologists are no better than Clinton. They won't ever admit the man has an actual flaw. All his "flaws" that they admit are in reality accusations that the electorate is too stupid to appreciate the wonderfulness of Mitt. That's not accepting responsibility. |
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Would someone like to explain how winning the War on Terror while surrendering to an illegal invasion is OK with anyone? We can all look forward to conversations in spanish about becoming part of Mexico, but at least we won that damn war in Iraq eh. |
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Scots Irish? Belligerant? Jacksonian? Why, Pat, you have just described the leader we need to confront Islamic Jihad?
What in Mitt's background or character qualify him to fight radical Islam? Nothing. |
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The base of the GOP is the south, which is still Scots Irish. That's why Mitt never got any traction there, he lost SC and FL and will do any better in any other Southern State. The South is the base of the GOP and Mitt never figured out how to appeal to these voters.
If he has not done it by today, it is not going to happen by Tuesday.
As I keep saying, a Republican must win SC to get the nod, and Mitt cut an ran from there. We Scots Irish are harsh to cut and runners. |
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I ask this question because I see little or nothing about Romney (or McCain) that resembles what I voted for in the past.
Conservatism these days seems to comprise the advocacy of three things:
1) Government enforcement of religious morality in the form of outlawing abortion, stem cell research and cloning; -- while teaching creationism in schools, vigorously prosecuting drug laws, outlawing of pornography (all of it, not just child porn) etc.
And, as a means to achieving (1), the appointment of judges that will uphold these laws.
2) Closing the borders, deporting millions of illegal aliens and punishing businesses that hire them.
3) Prosecuting a war against Islamic terrorists by maintaining military control of Iraq indefinitely while attempting to defend the homeland by surveillance and vigorous intelligence gathering and interrogation techniques.
Yes, there is some talk about tax cuts and spending, but as near as I can tell, the three things above are today‘s litmus test of acceptability for a candidate that wants the conservative vote.
What seems to have been dropped is any advocacy of freedom, capitalism and a government limited in scope to the protection of individual rights. Conservatives seem to have dropped all opposition to the welfare state, the environmentalists and the on-going destruction of the last remnants of American capitalism.
In fact, the man this web site is championing as a “conservative” implemented socialized medicine in his home state -- and he did so the only way it can be done: at gunpoint, i.e. by force of law.
If Romney is a conservative, I no longer am. |
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"Core convictions, You may not always agree with everything McCain says, but you know where you stand with him."
Yes I do, I am his political enemy. This is the biggest fallacy out there. "Straight Talk McCain" is total crap, he has flipped on several major issues in the past few WEEKS only and has taken positions that are contradictory. He was against the tax cuts in New Hampshire, then he was for them in South Carolina, he was for amnesty now he is against it, sort of, maybe. He was with the Republican Party and then he was against it. He is against abortion at public events, silent while in the senate, and if you want to chop babies up in the name of science then he is for it under the name of stem cell research. I know where McCain stands and it is with Democrats whenever convienient.
I also know where I stand with Romney, and unlike the substantive problems I have with McCain, none of the attacks on Romney have been more than hollow twisting of circumstances and taking advantage of honest changes in position TOWARD better conservatism.
How asinine is it to support the Republican canidate who is increasingly more liberal, and reject the canidate who is increasingly more conservative. They have both shifted, Romney a couple years ago and McCain perennially, but only Romney moved the right way, literally.
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Ptarick, I know that when Mitt loses a state to McCain by 34-29 he and his lackeys always try to spin that as 66% of the voters voting against John McCain. Still, I have to point out that you wouldn't get 34% of the vote by appealing only to bloodthirsty 85 year-old male chauvinists.
That's just not as huge a voting bloc as you seem to think it is. You couldn't get 34% by appealing only to it - in fact, you couldn't get 3.4%, or even 0.34%.
BTW, you sound like some San Francisco hippie when you try to slur every veteran (McCain runs well among ALL vets, not just violent male ones born in the 19th century), and every national-security minded citizen as being war-minded and belligerent. Gimme a break. What next: you'll be pointing out sneeringly that the strong 2nd Amenedment supporter McCain appeals to the gun nuts?
At least try to remember what side of the political divide you're supposedly on. |
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Here’s the tally at the RP Forums of the delegate count for the state convention in Maine with 68% reporting. The delegate count is different than the straw poll result the media is fixated on. Much like Nevada...we Ron Paul supporters were able to steal most of Mitt's delegates.
Portland - 30/59
Bangor - 12/43
Augusta City - 13/20?
Scarborouguh - 1/20. The only 17 year old delegate was a RP supporter from a 60+ year old crowd.
Belfast - 6/13. One will be swayed at the State convention.
Lincoln - 8/11
Lee - 5/6
Bucksport - 5/8. The Bucksport GOP Chair is a Ron Paul Supporter.
Albion - 4/7
Sidney - 3/11
Liberty - 2/5
Waldo - 2/4
Washburn - 2/3
Stockton Springs - 2/3
Denmark - 1/2
Northport - 1/2. The other will be converted.
Waterville - won, no numbers yet
Winslo - won, no numbers yet
Thompson Island - unknown
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From the Politico: But for all the glass-is-half-full optimism, many in Romney’s camp privately express frustration and resignation.
Facing the very real prospect of their candidate being out of the race by Wednesday, these aides and advisers are unhappy about several factors, only some of which they can control.
One source of anguish for many in the candidate’s orbit is the sudden fraying of Romney’s famously well-tailored campaign organization.
There was an entire 24 hours of uncertainty following Florida as to just how much—if anything—Romney would spend from his own pocket on television ads in February 5th states.
On Wednesday night, a full day after the Florida contest and with precious hours ticking away, Romney had not yet authorized a media buy.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0208/8279_Page2.html |
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Pat, you have explained why I like McCain. I am an older belligerant Scots Irish man with Jacksonian politics, why we trace back to Cromwell.
And yes, according to Jim Webb, we were Born Fightin'
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Quite a wakeup call for Louisiana's McCain delegates when President McCain has Mexico move here en masse, under McCain-Kennedy amnesty. Border? Who needs a border? What a deal, the new McCain-Lieberman carbon tax. Let's hope LA doesn't have jobs in gas and oil extraction. At best, he is a liberal Republican, like Snowe, say. |
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He used to be pro-gun control and wanted nothing to do with the NRA, but now he's against gun grabbers and thinks the NRA is peachy. He came across as a member of the open borders and amnesty crowd whose position wasn't much different than that of John McCain on illegal immigration -- until it became a hot political issue -- and now he's running ads that make him sound like Tom Tancredo on the subject. Then there are the Bush tax cuts, embryonic stem cell research, and the military's "don't ask, don't tell" policy. There have been so many flips that the flops are still running about two blocks behind, trying to catch up.
Are these shifts genuine? Are they purely for politics' sake? Is Mitt Romney a conservative or is he a squish telling us what we want to hear while planning to take 3 or 4 steps back towards the middle once he feels less pressure to pander to the base? Probably the former, but there's no way to really know the truth. Do we really want a nominee in 2008 that we have this sort of questions about?
http://www.evangelicaloutpost.com/archives/004209.html
http://www.stephenbainbridge.com/index.php/punditry/comment s/the_case_against_romney/
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Obama says McCain easiest to beat!!
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080202/D8UHS3HG0.html |
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"A Huckabee voter on Tuesday could have a lot of reasons for sticking with Mike, but one of them cannot be protecting the legacy of Reagan or the platform of the GOP as it has existed since 1980."
I think sometimes listening to townhall, one wants to shout BRING OUT YOUR DEAD, BRING OUT YOU DEAD. You guys are so hero worshipping of Ronald Reagan, you can't forge a new party more in touch with the 21st century.
Huckabee and Romney should have not gone into attack modes on each other because their voters are more natural allies. But Mitt made a miscalculation thinking he should take out what he considered the least likely person to stay in and ignored McCain. His attacks which were highly personal on Huckabee set up the religious war which the media played up and the ridiculous charges of ignorant and bigot towards Huckabee voters. Romney people do think we belong on the back of the bus and should be second class citizens. Hey, take that attitude, fold it five ways and stick it where the moon won't shine. It is dooming you to losing to McCain whom we also don't trust. You split the vote and made it harder to reach compromise.
I hope McCain's momentum is killed but not because I want some sanctimonious Romney who is actually even more sanctimonious than Huckabee or McCain has ever been but so we can get to a brokered convention where real hope of an actual conservative candidate is possible.
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Mitt Romney appears to have taken the lightly-contested Maine caucuses today.
Per AP, with 57 percent of towns reporting, Romney had 52 percent of the vote to McCain's 22 percent and Ron Paul's 19.
Romney's camp has already issued a release claiming victory.
Other than Ron Paul, no GOP candidates made it Down East. Romney's eldest son, Tagg, did however brave the elements to deliver the "w" for dad.
McCain didn't put much of a financial effort into the state, but he did have the support of the state's two Republican senators, Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins, who spoke for him today.
In other news from states nobody knew were having a contest, McCain last night was officially declared the winner of the January 22nd Louisiana caucuses.
Update: AP has made it official.
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I have all those attributes that you declare characterize such McCain supporters and I deeply resent being lumped in with them. Having only been in Arizona for 5 months when the Nov 1998 elections were held, I voted to return McCain to the Senate. I quickly learned how foolish that was and obtained 'Block Captain' documentation in the early 2000s when a McCain RECALL campaign was started. This 26 year AF vet voted for President times from overseas during military service and remain particularly sensitive to the fact that McCain failed to ever speak out before or after the 2000 election when the democrats did everything they could to stiffle the military overseas balloting process. Surviving a few years as a POW does not automatically make one a hero and McCain certainly is not. McCain's so called 'strong suit' of winning the War on Terror (self declared by him and supported by all media) has fatal flaws. Specifically, it's obvious that he does NOT understand the linkage of secure borders and maximum energy self sufficiency (e.e. drilling in ANWR )with National Security. In addition,he wants to coddle battle field captives and close GITMO. NEVER will this man get a vote from me again. |
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Joe writes: "Little by little the pieces fall into place. Looking at the latest polling I see Mitt Romney leading only in Massachusetts, Colorado and Utah. In many Red states he runs third to MIke Huckabee. It is quite possible Huckabee will gain more delegates than Romney on Tuesday. "
If anybody disagrees, they can put their money where their mouth is.
Right now, on Intrade online betting, Romney has been reduced to being an 11-to-1 long shot for the nomination.
So if the Mitt supporters like Hugh Hewitt really believe in their candidate, this is their big chance to win big at the online gaming table!
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We interrupt the debate blogging to give you an update on the Louisiana caucus...
I'm told this by a source in Louisiana who is a veteran hand in that state's politics, and has been reliable in the past. I have not verified this account, however...
Over 80 percent of the pro-life, pro-family slate delegates to the state convention have now committed to McCain. That's over 60 percent of the delegates to the state convention and a majority in 5 of the 7 congressional districts, plus the 3 RNC members. That means that 41 of the 47 delegates in Louisiana are now McCain's (unless another candidate magically receives over 50 percent in the Feb 9 primary). The other six will probably be his as well — they just aren't yet.
http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NzAyZjhhNTNm ZDE5MzQ4NjljMDM0MTU3M2Q4OTk2ZWE=
Hugh--time to update the delegate count list!
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You may not always agree with everything McCain says, but you know where you stand with him.
Over his political career, Romney has shifted his core values repeatedly. Not just his specific policy positions, but his basic values: What does he think of the Reagan revolution? What does he think of abortion? What does he think of Federal bailouts to industries? What does he think of increasing (or decreasing) entitlements?
Romney has never had to defend a controversial position before the voters in his entire political career. He's never had to take a controversial stand and persuade the people that he's right. Whatever the polls and focus groups tell him the voters want to hear, that's what he will tell them.
A man with no core convictions has no guts.
Right now, America is at war, and that war is controversial or even unpopular. The job of Commander-in-Chief is no job for someone who gets his core values out of polls and focus groups. It's a job for "Old Blood and Guts."
And McCain comes a lot closer to "Blood and Guts" than Romney does.
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Patrick: I cannot stand your man. But I do admire your tenacity: posting a comment at 2:31 a.m. I guess you don't sleep. But then maybe you get up at noon. Please advise.
In someways I wish your candidate would win. I would vote for him. However, I will not lift a finger. As a 64 year old male, I will be able to work with my flowers. I grow and show iris and daffodils. (I am not a belligerent old man) If McCain is the nominee, I will feel duty bound to work.
I live in Arkansas. My wife says if Hillary is the Dem nominee, Hillary will carry the state aganist anyone. I have to agree. (By the way my wife is for McCain). I live across the Mississippi River from Memphis, TN. I might work there. |
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Paul stole most of Mitt's delegates in Maine.
Once again...Romney did not win Maine...Ron Paul did. |
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This site is becoming a joke.
How friggin' dare you clowns talk down to the voters?
You should start a new demographic:
Highly Offended Lifelong Conservatives.
It is a rapidly growing segment sick and tired of the punditocracy thinking that they run the show.
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It is disappointing that there are people who see childish name calling and hotheadedness as a virtue for a president. McCain's outbursts show he lacks a disciplined temperament. We need a president who can control his temper and make rational decisions. As president, McCain would face constant criticism from all sides. If he can't overcome his emotional outbursts he will say things that cannot be taken back or worse he will do things in his emotional outbursts that cannot be repaired. While I have been repeatedly disappointed with Bush on fiscal issues, he has proven to be cool collected and optimistic. Those are admirable qualities that are very important to a president. Lets not nominate an emotional basket case. We have plenty of those from the democrat side. |
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I see people are still using the Mormon Hate card. calling anyone who wants the borders enforced a racist pig or nazi. I bet they belongs to some liberal socialistic marxist group like code pink or something. Cannot see how'll their hero mcmexicain will sell out Americans to pander to illegal immagrants. they really must be running scared, Watch out for all the the Mcvain suypporters pull out all their tricks of fabulous lies and hate about Mitt on this site. |
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"After Tuesday the best ticket for the Republican Party will be - John McCain and Mike Huckabee. Wow! What a team!"
If that's the team count...I'm switching over to Obama's side. I WILL VOTE FOR WHOEVER STANTS ACROSS FROM JOHN MCCAIN PERIOD. |
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After Tuesday the best ticket for the Republican Party will be - John McCain and Mike Huckabee. Wow! What a team! |
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This blog read like an editorial from LeMonde. You know a lot was said, but a certain coherency is missing.
As far as the bit about belligerent old men, all kinds of statistical demographics can be squeezed out depending on one's agenda. But unless 50%+ of the voters come from one particular demographic I don't think the numbers are that important. |
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sentiment may become McCain's Achille's heel, imo.
The more I've thought about it recently, the more I suspect that (barring a security issue within the next 3 days) 70% of those Americans who opposed the amnesty bill will remember who wrote it .... and unless McCain pulls off a miracle in the Sunday talk shows -- his ballot box appeal will suffer ....
Look at what happened in Maine yesterday. Did you see the list of heavy-weights (belligerent older men and women) who were campaigning for McCain? Romney didn't even visit the state and pulled 57% of the caucus. That's significant.
Mitt's passion is more like an inner strength, imo. He wears it well, methinks. I'm also thinking that women and men have different perceptions of "fire in the belly" and that drive, the internal passion to git'er done!
Maybe?
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made. As an irascible old reprobate myself, I've loved Rudy's FIRE-in-the Belly to kill Jihadist Sewage and I'm more than a tad uneasy & out of character with supporting Mitt in recent weeks..For one reason, alone: Lack of Passion, as the great Mark Steyn is quoted on this post.
But, MCain's TEMPERAMENT is not near right for President. The Dems and their pet puppies in the media will play his NO Fury Control like a seasoned Stradivarius. He will look like a lunatic and, even the sleazy Lady MacClinton may appear preferable to a madman. |
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"I'm sure this was covered and approved in the 2000 election when McCain ran, but I just found out today that he was born in Panama... in the "Panama Canal Zone" which was under US control during that time. Does anyone have any insight as to the wording of the "rules" about being born in the US in order to be President?"
I bet the Dems have the tame judges and the ambulance chasers ready to address this around July or August. |
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Older belligerant men are not only key voting bloc for Republicans. They also embody the party's essence.
Republicans have won over and over because they have a much more consistent narrative than their opponents, the Democrats.
Republicans don't need empathy. And they're consistent about that across the range of issues from immigration, to welfare to the evironment and, most importantly, national security.
The Democrats have lost time and again because they tout their empathy for immigrants, the poor and darter snails. So when the argue that they will be tough with terrorists, people don't believe them, no matter how much they try to prove it by voting in favor of an aggressive military or torture or, even, if they served in the military themselves.
Republicans, on the other hand, don't even have to serve in the military to have credibility as being "tough" against Islamists or Communists or whatever. The GOP's ``brand'' is tough meaning, no empathy, and it's invested a lot in maintaining that image.
Nominating McCain would squander that, as he'd be questioned again and again on stances that could be termed as empathetic. So no matter how much he points to his voting record as a tough military guy, he'll never benefitted from the consistent, across-the-board narrative that's allowed Republicans to dominate the White House since FDR...
The Clinton years were a telling exception. Clinton squeaked by because the Cold War had just ended, and the no empathy narrative broke down in the absence of an all-encompassing military threat. Now we're back to the Cold War like days of constant fear playing in voters' minds.
McCain's a very tough sell in that environment, but he still may beat Hillary, should the Democrats be silly enough to nominate her... |
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Mitt Romney has overtaken Juan McCain in California. If Romney can pull off California on Tuesday, it doesn't matter how many other states he can nab: he will get a big bounce and will be in it for the long haul.
http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1444 |
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I'm sure this was covered and approved in the 2000 election when McCain ran, but I just found out today that he was born in Panama... in the "Panama Canal Zone" which was under US control during that time. Does anyone have any insight as to the wording of the "rules" about being born in the US in order to be President? |
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I'd start looking at the wanted ads if I were you. |
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"If you read USA today, they said the republican caucus in Maine was big."
With 68% of the precincts reporting, CNN says Romney received 2,362 voters (52% of the total)
You do the math. Is that big? |
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I kept waiting for Mitt to just get up in McCain's face (sternly, but in control), but he just stammered and appealed to the moderator for a chance to rebut. Next time Mitt, just tell him what you really think, and we'll all feel like you're more likable than you've shown us so far. |
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Where does McCain plan to move prisoners at Gitmo?
Will they be in Arizona or Florida?
McCain and the democrats don't want you to waterboard even if it saves lives!!
McCain wants Amnesty!!
I think Ann is right!!
McCain may be tough on the war but he will weaken security at home. |
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If you read USA today, they said the republican caucus in Maine was big.
They said they have not seen this big of a turnout since Reagan.
What this tells you is the base is getting motivated against McCain.
Remember, Hillary was way down in the polls in New Hampshire but she still won.
The base wants to stop McCain and I think there will be a surprise on Tuesday!! |
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Really?
Zogby says Mitt does better with women so that might be true. They probably think he's an adorable doll.
Liked the part about Mitt not seeming to have any private parts. |
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I don't know you a** that well-no problem. Check out that first amendment while you are doing your scholarly work on the Constitution. |
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I'm not an old cranky dude--I'm a cranky younger woman.
Go Mitt!! =) |
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Romney does need to stand up to McCain more directly. Romney does not need to be nasty about it but he really does need to hit McCain hard on his liberal record. Romney can come up with some good come backs. He has better writers than Leno. |
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Belligerent old men may forget to remember things as well --
Remember how John Kerry told us (from his diary) about that Christmas night he lay beneath the Vietnam stars and thought of "President" Nixon. But forgot that Nixon wasn't elected until a year later?
Look at the beginning of McCain's recent ad:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqLWHvbRFO8
It's touching that he was "inspired" by President Ronald Reagan when he was a POW in Vietnam (1967-73) ....
One problem. In 1967, Reagan was elected as the NEW governor of California.
Reagan wasn't elected President until 1980.
And before leaving for Vietnam, McCain lived in Florida; he didn't enter politics until 1982.
So much for hero-worship. And memories. And flashbacks. And lying.
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As a cranky old man, I like a dog fight as well as the next guy. I even started a few. But I hope my president is not so stupid to do what I did. I don't want a cranky man in that job. I want a smart one who can fix what is wrong with our economy as well as keep us safe. Cranky old men usually start fights that someone else has to finish. I would rather keep Mac as a hero in my mind and not another embarrassment. |
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Who is getting the delegates? Hope the question is not too hard for you. |
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Another uncontested state. How those polls lookin' in New Jersey and New York? |
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"If John McCain wins the nomination, he’ll do so on the backs of older belligerent men"
Yeah? Well, calling McCain supporters nasty names kind of makes that a self-fulfilling prophecy, doesn't it?
"Why, I called that fellow over there an older, belligerent man and he struck me! With his fists! How belligerent of him!"
How about this? Trashing every other candidate with rat filth tactics for 6+ months tends to tick off everyone but the hardcore Mittheads. |
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McCain got his hiney handed to him tonight. Maybe you were too busy playing with your monkey. |
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