Monday, June 02, 2008
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This Is The Guy Obama wants To Meet And Confer With, No Preconditions
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Posted by:
Hugh Hewitt at
5:42 PM
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Iranian President Ahmadinejad, today:
"I must announce that the Zionist regime (Israel), with a 60-year record of genocide, plunder, invasion and betrayal is about to die and will soon be erased from the geographical scene," he said.
"Today, the time for the fall of the satanic power of the United States has come and the countdown to the annihilation of the emperor of power and wealth has started."
Americans who care about Israel will have a very difficult time voting for the naive Obama, though some will talk themselves into believing that Ahmadinejad doesn't count, that Obama will wise up, or something else.
Obama's bizarre take on foreign affairs, forged in the twenty years of his associations with Ayers, Dohrn, Pfleger, Rezko and Wright, no doubt blames Israel for much that is wrong with the region. Do you suppose we can find a statement on the record from any of those five vigorously defending Israel as our democratic ally in the region and one of history's greatest miracles?
Or do you suspect that Obama has sat through hours and hours of anti-Israel fulminations?
If so, do you think such long-term exposure has any effect on a candidate whatsoever?
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to point out Obama's policy concerning Iran when he spoke at the AIPAC today.
At the end of the conference, when some would have thought all the microphones were off, one of Obama's backers made a point of going to the panel table to introduce himself as an "Obama supporter." Unfortunately, CSpan cut away before the entire conversation could be heard.
I was most impressed with how well McCain gave his speech and his views on dealing with Iran and what he would do. |
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Ahmadinejad: "I must announce that the Zionist regime (Israel), with a 60-year record of genocide, plunder, invasion and betrayal is about to die and will soon be erased from the geographical scene," |
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It is even worse, because at least Jimmy Carter (arguably) managed to wedge Egypt from the rest of the anti Israel crowd. |
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Don't be insane, vote McCain |
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A bit of a reach, but still say no to such an effete prospective CIC.
I have a nephew entering the Naval Academy; I don't want him dishonored by a president who holds such contempt for the armed forces and our country.
Obama, an AINO--American in name only. |
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"I have a nephew entering the Naval Academy; I don't want him dishonored by a president who holds such contempt for the armed forces and our country."
Congratulations for your nephew. Let's just all hope that our next president doesn't needlessly send your nephew into an unwinnable war of choice. Bring em on!
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Bush's job approval rating = 29%
Obama being trusted to handle national issues = 31%
Congress' job approval rating = 11%??? or less
My fellow americans, Obama can't be trusted to handle the BIG issues facing our nation today. Having a 'fresh face' is not the experience needed to conclude Iraq with honor and dignity for our soldiers, and stimulate the economy while addressing other domestic concerns.
A 'fresh face' will do better after it has acquired enough national level experience to be more than a 'fresh face'. |
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Today, President Bush awarded the Medal of Honor to the family of an Army private (Spc. Ross McGinnis), who died in 2006 when he saved the lives of others in his vehicle by diving on a grenade that was thrown into the vehicle.
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2008/05/army_mcginnis_052308w /
McCain, as we know, declined an early release from a Vietnamese prison camp and ended up remaining five and a half years.
In 20 years, Obama didn't have the courage to confront his foul-mouthed bully of a pastor about the lies, hatred, and un-Americanism that he shouted from his pulpit. And yet he wants us to regard his church as mainstream America.
Who would you want sticking up for you? Obama is a shameful coward who stayed in a sham of a church for political purposes alone.
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What in Obama's resume makes him 'know how to....." do anything with the military? |
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Who will americans trust to handle not just Iraq but all the rogues like Admedinajad, Chavez, Castro and other regimes who are building nuclear power i.e. N. Korea, Iran etc. Who will we trust? Obama is not just inexperienced but nothing on his resume gives me or any other rational americans the confidence that given the opportunity he can conclude the war in Iraq successsfully and stand up to our enemies. Nothing on his resume, nada, zilch, nothing.......
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....in the war against Hezbollah, Obama held firm in his support of Israel's right to defend itself. This despite much pressure for Israel to back off from the left.
Obama's record on Israel is impeccable. Sorry, the guilt by association nonsense won't wash. |
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Read John Bolton's "Surrender is Not an Option," which perfectly reflects Obama's abysmally naive supposition that he alone can succeed with Iran et al where numerous others over the decades have failed.
It's the left's self-absorbed notion that their unique blend of nuance, balanced incentives and disincentives, and ability to divine the opposition's motivations will carry the day.
The problem is that Iran is not a state, it's an ideology and, according to its own leaders, they have no interest in speaking with us--they want to kill us.
Why is that so difficult for liberals like Obama to understand?
Phil Mella
http://clearcommentary.townhall.com
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One Hot Minute, my friend...
OBAMA supporters, most notably those who are Jewish, ignore, at very least shy away from the support Obama has given to Jew-Haters.
While at the Wood's Fund, Obama approved and initiated financial contributions of $75,000.00 ($40K in 2001, and $35K in 2002) to Rashid Khalidi, himself a HARSH critic of Israel. Khalidi has made NUMEROUS statements of support for Palestinian terror and worked for YEARS on behalf of the, P.L.O.---Yasser Arafat's repulsive terror group (sure, this is all reconcilable).
Oooooops, correction, Obama actually gave these funds to Khalidi's wife, Mona, president of the, Arab American Action Network, We all know that funds sifting through the hands of Arab organizations are NEVER used for nefarious purposes; always for the most innocent of uses.
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"Obama knows the way to put
Iran into the hands of the secular progressives who live there."
OK, I'll bite. How is he going to do that?
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Development Hatches. Ba-Da-Bing, like Dat. You asked, Comrade Bro-Bay, what the "alternative" to Yapping is?? FOCUS, Fool: 15K B-Busters by the dozen.
They need to come from us, NOT Israel.
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has "held firm" in his support for Israel.
Loser Liberals claim that Obama's record is, "impeccable" with regards to Israel.
If the above is true, why would this man HIRE as his advisors men who HATE ISRAEL? His latest advisor is none other than, David Bonior.
No congressman has done more to thumb his nose, register his anti-support, for Israel than David Bonior. Here are only 5 examples:
1.) In 1997, David Bonior was one of 15 Congressmen who signed a letter asking then-President Clinton to pressure Israelis into making
concessions to the Palestinians.
2.) In 2002, David Bonior was one of only 21 Congressmen who opposed H.R. 392, which publicly affirmed Congress's support of Israel's right to self-defense and called for the dismantling of the Palestinian terrorist infrastructure.
3.) In 1990, David Bonior was one of only 34 Congressman to vote against a measure naming Jerusalem as the united capital of Israel.
4.) In 1989, Bonior was one of six House members to vote against a bill that prevented US funds from going to UN entities that granted the PLO membership.
5.) Throughout his career, Bonior repeatedly opposed US aid to Israel and supported arms sales
to Arab states opposed to Israel's existence.
This is part of Obama's pattern of far-left, radical, anti-Israeli advisors, including, Tony McPeak, Zbigniew Brzezinski, Robert Malley (Al Mali before he changed his name).
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The 10 N. Korea nucs. were developed during the 'talking policy' of Clinton. They got discovered during the Bush administration. There is a distinction between POTUS meeting with Rogues and lower level admin. people meeting with Rogues. Obama does not see this distinction because he says 'we are not any better than other nations and if POTUS does not meet with rogues then we are saying we are better than they are'. Listen - we are better than they are on any given day. And if you or Obama don't think so then move there and live there happily ever after......oh that's what I thought, we are better! |
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Obama's good friend Khalidi
Their friendship goes way back---so reminiscent of Obama's style and degree of judgement exercised with Reverend Wright.
According to a professor at the University of Chicago who said he has known Obama for 12 years, the Democratic presidential hopeful first befriended Khalidi when the two worked together at the university. The professor spoke on condition of anonymity. Khalidi lectured at the University of Chicago until 2003 while Obama taught law there from 1993 until his election to the Senate in 2004.
Khalidi in 2000 held what was described as a successful fundraiser for Obama's failed bid for a seat in the U.S. House of Representatives, a fact not denied by Khalidi.
He has multiple times expressed support for Palestinian terror, calling suicide bombings response to "Israeli aggression." He dedicated his 1986 book, "Under Siege," to "those who gave their lives ... in defense of the cause of Palestine and independence of Lebanon." Critics assailed the book as excusing Palestinian terrorism.
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when Obama meets Ahmedi..president of Iran. He will be discussing the peace of Jerusalem and how to make Israel strong so that it can defend itself against all those radical jihadists who want to destroy Israel. That is the agenda Obama wants to develop amd implement with the help of Ahmedinajad. LOL X 10.
Obama's former church circulated literature from Hamas. I am sure the literature discussed how to work collaboratively with israel. Also, when Obama marched with Farakhan in the million man march - the speakers focused on defending israel from it's enemies. Finally, when Wright (obama's former pastor) joined Farakhan for a trip to Libya, they were urging Kadafi to defend Israel. This is sounds like a bad dream and I am hoping I wake up soon. Obama is really a presidential candidate in the USA????? Oh my!!!! |
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...seeking the highest position in the country.
I suppose some can reconcile anything---PLO affiliations, HAMAS connections, terrorist relationships. Hey, they deserve a place at the table too. There's plenty of room for the hate-mongers, hate-peddlers, hell, let's just admit it, friends of Barack Hussein Obama:
Reverend Wrong,
Reverend Flake,
Louis Farrakhan,
Rashid Khalidi and his wife,
Bill Ayers and his wife,
Tony Rezko,
Samantha Power,
Anthony Lake.
There's plenty of room at the table---pleanty of time to set aside for no precondition meetings with AckMADwackJOB, Hugo CHAvez, Castro.
Hell, it's a short life. Who are we to judge?
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What law school gave you a degree? You have a tendency to ignore evidence when making any case for Obama. Shouldn't you at minimum acknowledge that hamas would not say Obama is their preferred candidate if they believed 'Obama is firm in his belief that Israel should defend itself'. When picking heads of state that he would meet with to discuss nuclear power - Obama picked Iranian president, not the Isreali president. Do you think the phonebanks in Gaza were set up by Palestinians because there is evidence 'Obama is firm in his belief that Israel should defend itself'. You have to ignore so much evidence to conclude that about Obama, it makes me wonder what institution gave you a law degree. Discovery by a 1st law student would give you enough evidence that Obama is at best 'lukewarm' toward Israel. The man has been endorsed my enemies of Israel, and not just Hamas..... |
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Can anyone provide evidence that as a legislature in D.C or as a community organizer, obama sought any organizations that defend Israel? or gave money to organizations that defend Israel or Israel's right to exist and defend itself? Anyone? |
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stands where it ought not...head for the hills. BUT NOT BEFORE A GOOD (McCain as Patton) fight.
Arthur McVarish, Houston |
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Liberalism's dance of death with America's enemies continues with Obama's Chamberlain Wax Museum portrayal of appeasement with the Iranian thug. Liberals love to play house with Uncle Joe Stalin, Mao, Castro, Mao, the Sandinistas, and domestic terrorists like Ayers, Tom Hayden and the rest of the SLA, Weatherman nutters. Of course, the shock of ever questioning their patriotism is too severe that they drop their Brie and Chardonay and sputter, 'We do love America but only when she is under the jack boot of tyrants.' 'And don't you dare tell us that socialist pacifist views are evil. Why, they are really Biblical and though we don't know God, He must agree with our views because Reagan-Bush are so mean!' Liberals like Obama and his mentors belong in Dante's Circles of Hell. |
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to change his stance regarding Iran and Hamas and try to suck up for the Jewish vote when he addresses AIPAC this week. Wonder if Wright, Bonoir and the rest will help write Obama's speech (snicker).
Hillary will also address the group this week. But I don't think Hillary has any "splaining" to do when it comes to supporting Israel. |
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Visit little green footballs website, and have a hearty laugh!
Islamists, the religion of peace, have send the Great Satan Land a message of their "hope"? via Toronto Canada, library!
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West Coast School of Denial. He repeated the course work 6-times. Trust me. :-) |
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Arthur what you said, possibly in jest gives me the willies...OBAMINAtion of desolation....even Briggsy knows what "he" would do to us that believe........ |
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"Obama knows the way to put
Iran into the hands of the secular progressives who live there.
It is the religionists here in the States who will give him the most trouble during his presidency."
I have read some stupid statements in my day, but this may be THE stupidist I have ever seen.
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after reading that ridiculous quote by that blinded-by-hate kook would want to sit down and talk to him? I would not waste my time nor dignify him with an audience to which he can spout this vile stuff. It offends the very ear of decent people.
I know Obama said no preconditions, but even if he would agree to them, exactly what preconditions would allow one to forget the threats to Americans and horrible insults?
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And what, pray tell, would Obama say to this lunatic? |
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Briggsy's just full of em, How about this, "This rightwing brainwashing must be reigned in for the good of the nation." Briggsy 02/14/08
Yeah, Obamarama is her man........;-) |
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All George Bush has to do to protect against an Obammy presidential sissy yap with the mad Iranian nutter is to rain a devastating shower of bunker busters upon the Iranian nuke facilities. This would make talks with an evil madman ridiculous and futile. Should Obammy win, He would be left with the Bush doctrine foreign policy. We would then see the type of leader Obammy would really be in dealing with that. The alternative to doing nothing would be a worse situation and leave Iran sure to become a nuclear nightmare for our nation and the world. This is all figuring that Obammy would beat McCain for the potus. I have my doubts. Neo has the right idea. |
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I read today that Obama did NOT go to Chicago immediately after graduating from Columbia in Spring 1985. Sorry, I'm not paying for his books; he's not worth a trip to the library.
Anyone know what he did with the two years between graduating from Columbia and the time he started the community organizing.
And, if you haven't heard, it now appears that the federal government has given Obama's (now) former church $15,000,000 (yes, million) to fund various programs.
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/06/02/obamas-ex-church-ha s-won-15m-in-federal-grant-money/all-comments/#comments
Nice to know that the federal government is getting criticized by Wright and his congregants at the same time it is (taxpayers are) underwriting the church's ministries.
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Usually when I see these liberal's statements I just scroll over them, thus I haven't read many of Briggys posts. I had to read this 3 times before I could really comprehend that she (I assume you know it's a female from your comment) really would put something that idiotic out into public. |
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Briggsy (he) is thinking way over your head. Reading everything 3 times is probably helpful for you.
Most Mainers I know get it after one reading. You must be from away. |
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Please tell me that you agree that Obama knows the way to put Iran into the hands of the secular progressives who live there.
Do you?
If so, please tell me ANYTHING at all that gives you ANY indication that Mr. Obama knows how to do that?
I thought not. |
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I wonder if Obama sees the irony in his latest announcement that he will meet with Hillary after she drops out of the race.
Let me get this straight. He will meet unconditionally with the leader of a rogue state sponsor of terror, Iran, but he won't meet with Hillary Clinton unless she satisfies the condition of dropping out of the race? Anyone else see grave incongruence here? |
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Briggsy means that antagonizing the religious fanatics who rule the Iranian state is not the answer; appealing to Iranian secular politics, is. Sounds like a plan. (readX3) |
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KGK writes: Monday, June, 02, 2008 8:19 PM
Dance of death
Liberalism's dance of death with America's enemies continues with Obama's Chamberlain Wax Museum portrayal of appeasement with the Iranian thug. Liberals love to play house with Uncle Joe Stalin, Mao, Castro, Mao, the Sandinistas, and domestic terrorists like Ayers, Tom Hayden and the rest of the SLA, Weatherman nutters. Of course, the shock of ever questioning their patriotism is too severe that they drop their Brie and Chardonay and sputter, 'We do love America but only when she is under the jack boot of tyrants.' 'And don't you dare tell us that socialist pacifist views are evil. Why, they are really Biblical and though we don't know God, He must agree with our views because Reagan-Bush are so mean!' Liberals like Obama and his mentors belong in Dante's Circles of Hell.
Arch says
This is one post that should be repeated so I took the liberty. Enjoy!!! |
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Obama has spent his entire political career trying to win the next step up. Every three years, he has aspired to a more powerful political position.
He was just 35 when in 1996 he won his first bid for political office. Even many of his staunchest supporters, such as Black, still resent the strong-arm tactics Obama employed to win his seat in the Illinois Legislature
http://houstonpress.com/2008-02-28/news/barack-obama-scream ed-at-me/4 |
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I take that as a yes, you agree.
Stupid is as stupid does - x3. |
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Now I know what the problem is. You can't hear. |
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Thanks for the Repeat,
KGK. Post.
Enjoyed, Again. |
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Mary Stella. I thought you would like that one. KGK is a word smith much like yourself. Keep em coming as I enjoy every word. |
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dudley writes: Tuesday, June, 03, 2008 12:32 AM
Maincon
Now I know what the problem is. You can't hear
Arch says:
At least Maincon can think! Why do you point out handicaps like that while criticizing my point blank comparison to leftist mentality and the mentally of the retarded? I am clearly not criticizing the innocent retarded now am I? Nope only the unchallenged who mimic the innocent challenged. Seems like you fall into that category now don't you Dudley? |
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BHO: Thank you, President Ahmadinejad for accepting me into your palace. I bring with me the greetings of the American people. Did I mention my middle name is Hussein?
Ahmad: The time for the fall of the satanic power of the United States has come and the countdown to the annihilation of the emperor of power and wealth has started.
BHO: Please don't annihilate my country. I understand your hatred because America has been oppressive to the Muslim people throughout the world throughout history. I apologize for the 9/11 attacks which I know were the result of chickens coming home to roost. Can you find it in your heart to forgive us? If you agree not to annihilate us I have been assured by one of our states, California, that they will acceopt a joint system of American law and Sharia law.
Ahmad: Okay, agreed but Israel must soon be erased from the geographical scene.
BHO: Please don't erase our friends in Israel from the map. They are not that bad, and they make terrific bagels which Michelle and I have each morning. Did I mention that Hussein is my middle name?
Ahmad: You are right Mr. President. I am sorry we have not seen things your way. Thank you for coming and showing me the right way.
BHO: Thank you President. I knew we could come to an understanding. My fellow countrymen will be very pleased. Did I mention my middle name...
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You and me have a problem. You have no ammunition other than your political comparisons to mental retardation, a life human beings are born into that carries a burden you can't imagine. There is no mimicing. You just a wise a-s young punk who impresses no one with your posts, think you're a tough guy. No respect, |
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I know Dudley. When ever leftists rear their ugly philosophy and talking points, I let it be known that they are as ugly as the idea behind them. Why do you leftists desire policies that cripple human freedom and liberty? If you don't somehow believe they are the road to serfdom then you definitely are mimmicing the mentally retarded. How many examples of leftist big government triumphs in human history resulted in the deterioration of the lives and liberties of millions and millions of human beings placed under the thumb of government tyranny? It has been tried all throughout history and resulted in human atrocities beyond comprehension yet you advocate the same big powerful government erosion of liberty and freedom. Yes Dudley you and I have a problem. You argue to give away to big government, the liberty and freedom of God's people, and I argue for the restriction of big government to allow the utmost liberty and freedom to God's people. You are a tyrant's foolish useful idiot and I will consistently call you what you are every time I read such sputum. |
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you're a child.
"When I was a child, I spoke as a child, thought as a child. But when I became a man, I put away childish things.." You're not there yet, punk.
Marystellaaaaa, please... seek not approbation from children. Write your Christian poems, dark, full of atheistic remark. |
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Dudley you are a moron to adhere to the leftist dogma. I imagine you whacking yourself in the face with a hammer over and over in repetitive fashion somehow convinced that progression will be attained by eroding human liberty and freedom including your own. This is a symptom of a mental disorder and total disregard of human freedom The talking points you parrot come directly from the leftist think tanks and Marxist manifesto. You present no new thinking here on the Hall, just tired old leftist ideology. Don't you realize that history has proven your beliefs to be failures throughout the world and lead to human suffering and enslavement? Can you give me one good example of a leftist policy that increased human liberty and freedom for all? Maybe someday when you grow up you will understand what I am talking about dear child!! |
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America is obsessed withe Ahmadinejad and what he says.
Lets look at some of the things the ACTUAL Iranian leader said. Ayatollah Ali Khameini said "We have no intention of attacking any country". He also said that "Nuclear weapons are incompatable with Islamic thought" before issueing a fatwa against them. This man has emphatically more influence and power than Ahmandinejad. If Obama feels he can influence the regime for the better by meeting with them than he should have the blessing of the pro Israeli community.Its better than the other options of, do nothing and hope for the best and , bomb Iran and batten down the hatches.
Ted |
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