Thursday, March 27, 2008
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A Note of Caution
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Posted by:
Carol Platt Liebau at
10:04 PM
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At risk of being the skunk at the garden party (or, more colorfully, the metaphor Lowell Weicker used to describe his role in Republican politics, hailed by the great WFB as a "triumph of artistic self-description"), it's perhaps wise to view all the reporting on the Democrats' disunity with a bit of caution.
Of course, it's hard not just to pull up a chair, pop up the corn and enjoy all the intra-party bickering between Obamaniacs and Clinton supporters, especially when there are polls that show that a significant number of Democrats might defect to McCain if their first-choice candidate loses the nomination.
But let's remember that we're in a very heated period on the Democrat side. Keep in mind that there was a lot of well publicized conservative unhappiness just at the time it became clear that McCain would win the Republican nomination. But thereafter, as emotions cooled and there was time for reflection, a lot of McCain's erstwhile opponents concluded that with all his flaws (and there are plenty), he's still far superior to either candidate the Democrats could offer. What's more, as more information about Barack's views, records and associates has emerged, some may be rightly rethinking their previous opinions about the potential for Obama to strip away disgruntled conservative votes from the Republican Party.
Given all this, couldn't a similar phenomenon occur on the Democrat side? It's highly possible, after all, that angry and disgruntled Democrats who are now threatening to cross party lines might reconsider once a final nominee has been selected and the race cools down. And couldn't this be especially true given the absence of any significant ideological differences between Barack and Hillary (after all, they're closer policy-wise than McCain and Romney)? And might some of Democrats who think they'd be willing to support McCain reconsider that decision, after the party's attack machine goes to work to "acquaint" its rank-and-file voters with the Arizona senator's "true record"?
Forgive me for being a killjoy. . .
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McCain keeps saying "Secure the border first". We know that he means amnesty comes next. The plan is to get the border state Gov's to declare the border secure. Conveniently, they are all on board the cheap labor express. Then his good friend Ted Kennedy will bring back McCain/Kennedy and McCain can provide his good friends across the aisle with their new permanent majority.
I will not vote for amnesty.
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It's just that we conservatives have already made up our minds that we are not going to vote for either wing of the United Establishment Party. There just isn't anything to discuss from now until the election. We have to get ready to fight whoever wins when the assault on American sovereignty resumes after the election. You guys can keep trying to confuse people by refering to yourselves as conservatives but it has been made very clear that Townhall is nothing more than a Republican echo chamber for the principle-challenged. |
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Stupidity.
Don't count on defection from Dems. First of all, there's a long road to the election and once the Dems finally find their candidate, McCain's true nature will come into the forefront of the campaign. And let's be real here: McCain's TRUE nature is abhorrent to virtually all Dems and thinking people.
McCain is a warmonger with a foul temper - a BAD combination.
McCain is a dolt on economy, AND on those he wants to kill. He can't get Shia and Sunni straight - bad, bad sign.
McCain is in bed with lobbyists and has disregarded his own campaign reform guidelines to suit his greedy desire to be prez at all costs.
There is very little integrity in McCain and one doesn't have to dig very deep to expose this fact.
On a personal level, he is the decrepit anti-hero. He left his first wife for his mistress and probably had an affair with a lobbyist.
And his biggest problem? He is Bush all over again - only worse, if that is possible. He's meaner, older and ten times more dangerous. Boy, can you wingnuts pick 'em. |
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This is why the democrats will not unite. While our primaries were heated, the main fight was about ideas not identity (except for Mitt who was branded as Mormon by Hugh). When republicans decided to pick a nominee, they did so based on thinking through who was the most electable and whose ideas about life and defense would pose the best challenge for democrats in November. Democrats are so similar in their ideas that their primaries have become about identity. It is becoming increasingly difficult to hear them discussing ideas as the blacks and white women bicker about who is the worse victim of the whiteman worthy of the nomination so that they can break the ceiling. These emotions do not go away because unlike ideas, identity is much more personal and offenses incurred when discussing identity issues will leave deep scars. The less than 25% conservatives who did not like McCain are still the minority in the republican party. While they were misguided enough to think they are the majority, reality sank in when they realized even in closed primaries, most of us who disagree with McCain still believe him to be the most qualified as commander in chief. Blacks will never accept defeat to a white woman, and white women will never accept defeat to a bi-racial man. Either side will use emotions to vote for McCain - just so that they can prove a point. And we who support McCain, could not be happier. God Bless America! |
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Few Dems will gravitate to McCain. Many Independents will. |
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And when americans hear the rest of Barak Hussein Obama's story (with Rezko's trial coming to a climax and Michelle needing to testify) - McCain will look like the messiah Obama dreamt of becoming before ALL HIS SKELETONS started streaming out of the closet. FYI - it won't be even close! What red states do you think will go blue for Obama? At least with Clinton OH is in play. With Obama all the important states McCain is leading in double digits and thanks to DNC stupid rules Michigans will not be thinking of democrats come November. Simply put, McCain will carry ALL the states Bush carried in 2004 and add NH, Pensylvania and maybe CA. If democrats can't run their party without all this infighting, why should americans trust them to run the country? BTW, 30% of Clinton supporters trust McCain more than they trust Barak. Statistically, we call that a good projection of the population. |
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so maybe you need a new name like, McCain haters to describe those people who will not be voting for McCain. |
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experience and that is why it's not surprising that 30% will be voting for McCain in November. Experience matters and since Obama's sole platform was judgement, his mentor Wright and business pal Rezko, and community activist/bomber William Ayers have tanished his "sound judgement" platform. Notice he is no longer using that slogan. Without the "sound judgement" slogan and experience, all that is left is his "change" meaning "typical white people" need to accept change from white men to a bi-racial man for president. A bi-racial man without any credentials other than - he is not white. The map just turned red. |
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because over 70% of americans from all backgrounds (gang members and wall street jounalists) agree that amnesty is bad for USA. Remember Bush was ready to sign the bill if it got to his desk. Americans took to the streets and the american people won. Never under estimate the power of the people to hold govt. officials responsible. The McCain/Kennedy bill had Bush's support but it failed because of the american voters. McCain will not succeed in over turning the will of the people any more than Bush did. I am not saying he won't try, but like gay marriage, amnesty is still perceived negatively by over 70% of americans - and on social issues the majority do rule because politicians still want to be re-elected. |
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Sarah,
As you can see from reading this thread, there are some folks who claim to be soooo committed to conservative principles, that they don't actually care if that radical left-wing nut Obama wins the White House over McCain.
Personally speaking, the only people I know who don't mind if Obama beats McCain are D-e-m-o-c-r-a-t-s.
What these "principled conservatives" don't get is that life is not about perfect choices.
Most of the time, one must choose among imperfect choices.
Thus, what the mature adult does is choose the best available choice.
And we know that between McCain and Obama, the better available choice is McCain---especially when one factors in the most important issues...fighting Islamic Jihad, Supreme Court nominations, and taxes & spending.
In fact, fighting Islamic Jihad is THE most transcendent issue, and Senator McCain clearly recognizes that fact. Indeed, he said as much in his speech here in Los Angeles on Wednesday. |
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Did I just read you describing yourself as an adult? I almost blew coffee out of my nose!
Seriously... you were kidding, right? You are one of the few on here that are the most immature people.
Get a life. |
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You are a loser; A shill for all that is wrong with the republican party. YOU are the reason conservatives can no longer tolerate the "Democrat-lite" party.
Sorry, but principles first, darling. You want to be a republican first, so be it. But, don't insult the intelligence of others by calling yourself a conservative.
Hey boffins, want a clue as to how much trouble the republicans are in this year? 15 articles on the front page of Townhall.com are about DEMOCRATS. And the only "oh wow" strife among them is in your heads. They are far more united in kicking the republicans out, as well as the independents, and even MANY former republicans. Why? Because the republicans aren't conservative anymore. They bloviate, just like OHM and Sarah above, about principles and then do exactly the opposite. When they get caught with their pants down, they point out that the dems did it too.
How very pathetic. I can deal with 4 years of Obama just to fumigate the republican party of all the roaches like Sarah and OHM. |
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As usual, your analysis is spot on. With the whole "sniper fire in Bosnia" dust-up, Hillary's chances get dimmer by the day. Obama will now likely be the nominee and unless Mrs. Clinton can secure a sizeable (at least 15 percentage point victory) on April 22nd her candidacy is over. If she was willing to put the party first (not likely) she'd pull out now and let the party unite around Obama. Democrats will now avoid the bloody floor fight and the superdelegates will simply be ratifying the choice of the voters by handing Obama the nomination. If the race were closer and Mrs. Clinton was made the nominee by the superdelegates you'd see a greater chance of a split in the Democratic party. But it looks less and less likely that's going to happen. |
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