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Friday, November 06, 2009
Matthews on Ft. Hood: "We Don't Know Whether Religion Played Any Role In The Shootings"
Posted by: Greg Hengler at 5:16 PM
I say again: This is an Obama-certified "news" network:



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Lonny writes: Friday, November, 06, 2009 5:22 PM
actually, Chris, we do
Just by what the killer yelled. And by the fact that he had been taunted by other troops for being a muslim. Both are contributing factors.
homer noble writes: Friday, November, 06, 2009 5:27 PM
Move his eyes closer together
and give him a pair of glasses and he could easily pass for Robert Gibbs. It is the standard Central News Bureau release.
eddie too writes: Friday, November, 06, 2009 5:42 PM
it is so leftist and appeasing to

blame the victims for the perpetrators acts.

nothing that happened to that muslim justified what he did.

he justified it in his own mind because of his beliefs.

allah is just another name for lucifer and mohammed was allah's stooge.

only lucifer could promulgate and promote the tenets of islam.
eddie too writes: Friday, November, 06, 2009 5:44 PM
that comment by the tea party

guy who told mathews he had a tingle up his leg must have pushed mathews over the edge.

the perp shouts allah ahkbar and mathews thinks islame is not involved.

unless perhaps mathews agrees with me that islam does not merit being called a religion any more than satanism merits being called a religion.
Lonny writes: Friday, November, 06, 2009 5:48 PM
so, Eddie, if someone
called you a phag every day, over and over again, you wouldn't react?
Patrice writes: Friday, November, 06, 2009 5:56 PM
SSM following orders
The State Sanctioned Media is only following orders and waiting for the WH to deliver the talking points.
Notice this dolt reports as fact the statements made by the shooters cousin. Nothing against the cousin but he only knows what his shooter cousin told him and we too often see family members in denial (you know, my baby didn't do that mentality). The SSM will not report the facts even when they are available but obama is going to Walter Reed today to get information on the shooter - or as the media say, he's going to visit the troops.
Tea Party writes: Friday, November, 06, 2009 6:09 PM
Lonny
Who harassed the OFFICER, a MAJOR? Certainly not the enlisted, certainly not the lower ranked officers..so name the people who harassed him????
You seem to have been a fly on the wall when people interacted with him, so since you know everything about it..tell the rest of us, name names, and ranks?
I love that, it's always the victims fault.
When this guy applied for an arranged marriage at his mosque he didn't put down that he was an American..he wrote he was a Palestinian. And he
swore to uphold the Constitution of the United States against ALL enemies foreign and domestic. He broke that oath by attacking his own military members, young kids probably like my grandson.
He gave away Koran's to his neighbors yesterday morning and he gave his furniture away..he PLANNED this assault and murder..he was a terrorist!!!! Who was it that murdered those two young soldiers outside the recruiting station in Arkansas or Alabama not sure which.
Who was it that threw a grenade into the tent
in Kuwait just before we went into Iraq..none of them were Christians. None were Jews. None were Buddhists. None were pagans.
Our dearleader was all heart I hear, pushing his Obamascamcare over the bodies of the dead and wounded..but you can bet he will be there when the photo ops start.
Theophilus writes: Friday, November, 06, 2009 6:15 PM
Obama Certified Media - Hypocrisy
Let an angry citizen hold up a sign against Big Government, and the Obama Certified Media will waste no time in reading between the lines and seeing the **real racist** motives.

But let a lifelong Muslim hand out Korans to his neighbors, defend Islamic suicide bombers as heroes, yell "Allahu Akbar" before using two hand guns to kill and wound unarmed soldiers at the world's largest millitary base and Chris Matthews doesn't know if religion played a role.

MSNBC just earned a 5th star on their Obama Certification Seal. *****
Patrice writes: Friday, November, 06, 2009 6:39 PM
Theophilus writes:
Let an angry citizen hold up a sign against Big Government, and the Obama Certified Media will waste no time in reading between the lines and seeing the **real racist** motives.

let a President tell people "don't jump to conclusions" and the SSM ignores that the statement reflected what he really was thinking - like in the Gates situation where he incited anger and supported racial intolerance from his friends.
Lonny writes: Friday, November, 06, 2009 7:00 PM
Tea Party
let's see what the investigation shows, ok? His brother and others have said he complained to them (some in the military) that he'd been harassed. Are you suggesting that you know that it did not happen? What woud you do if you were harassed on a regular basis?

No one is blaming the victims because we don't even know if any of the victims harassed him. When people snap, they snap...McVeigh surely did, Tiller's murderer did. This guy might even defend himself successfully on the basis that he snapped.

Bill writes: Saturday, November, 07, 2009 1:52 AM
Good for you, Lonny
Let's dredge up Tim McVeigh one more time, over a decade after his event.

This gives us a pretty good idea of when the left will stop blaming Bush for every problem that exists.

In fact, the Ft. Hood shooting might well have been because of Bush. Whaddya think?
arch writes: Saturday, November, 07, 2009 2:03 AM
Lonny is a waste!!
Lonny is an idiot parent that produced a gay son.
Tolerance of evil is not a virtue and in Lonny's case proves that parental incompetence destroys a human being at an early age when the parents neglect to discern right from wrong. Her posts depict a moron with trembling brain synapses that border on insane and stupid. A likely typical lib moron struggling to attain normalcy in humanity by degradation of others, including her own offspring! What a waste of a biological, God Created being!
TrickleupPolitics writes: Saturday, November, 07, 2009 5:33 AM
Good show, Tea Party!
Hasan was a shrink. It was his job to recognize stress in others and counsel them. So, he snapped, Lonny? If he was stressed, he should have gone to someone for help. The report of his background at Walter Reed indicates to me that he was having problems with his patient interactions (!) and fellow soldiers there. If he had not been a Muslim, he would have been flagged, tagged and bagged long before he started shooting. If an enlisted troop called him a raghead and ripped a bumper sticker off his car, and as a shrink he can't handle that, then he is not suited to counseling others nor suited to being a soldier. If you think that the Army is a haven of multiculturalism while soldiers are training to kill Muslims, you are an idiot. Warriors depersonalize people they are planning to kill. There are no Muslim culture celebrations going on there before they deploy. Deal with it.
The following facts show intent to kill:
1. He had recently started wearing Arabic clothes.
2. He was agitated about being deployed and made comments to others about attacking American soldiers to defend Islam. He specifically talked about defending Islam via suicide bombing. This attack was a suicide shooting. He did not expect to survive this attack.
3. He gave away Korans and his furniture before the attack. He had already told his landlord that he was leaving in 2 weeks. This is evidence that he had been planning this for weeks if not months since he was not due to deploy for some months.
4. He considered himself a Muslim first, American second, as he told some.
5. He considered himself a Palestinian according to the Mosque application for a wife.
6. He yelled God is Great just like the other jidadists have before they have attacked Americans, including the pilot of the plane that went down in PA.

What do we have to do, hit you on the head with a hammer? You and Obama too? There are none so blind as those who will not see.
Nee writes: Saturday, November, 07, 2009 6:27 AM
once again
The trolls come out and defend those in the wrong.
Here's your first clue, Lonny old boy.

If you can't stand the phucking heat, resign the commission. Why didn't Hasan do that? Because he was a coward who chose to betray his Country, his comrades and his medical oath and instead kill people, because he is a Muslim. First, last, always. When are you going to get that?

Chris Matthews is drunk on hopium and doesn't want his PIed Piper to have to deal with the truth. He'll find a way to blame it on Bush.
maddox writes: Saturday, November, 07, 2009 7:48 AM
Difference
Stop saying this boob said "God is great", he said "Allah is great", a big, big difference
KATZ writes: Saturday, November, 07, 2009 8:20 AM
How Sad
It is truly sad when someone picks on an Army officer. I could just cry thinking about it; Army officers are so often the butt of jokes, especially by those of lower rank. Yep, this Allah-fearing muslim had every right in the world to smuggle weapons on an Army post and massacre a bunch of unarmed innocents. I think Chris Matthews should encounter a maniacal madman; perhaps his bad attitude would change, if he lived through it.
Exeye writes: Saturday, November, 07, 2009 8:47 AM
Someone gave him a wedgie
Well, that explains it. Because only six or seven school kids per year are picked on, and every single one of them become raving lunatic mass murderers, driven to it by Indian burns and 4-Eye jokes and short sheeting. Yeah.
Seadog writes: Saturday, November, 07, 2009 9:48 AM
Lonny
"When people snap, they snap...McVeigh surely did, Tiller's murderer did."

Say WHAAAAT?

Now what ever gave you the idea that either of these culls "snapped?" They were sane people who hated -- nothing more.

Same as the idiot major. He hated. Period.

He claims to have been harassed. I suspect that he was, considering his wild statements and blogging. And, don't forget, he supposedly tried to convert those he counseled to change to the Muslim religion and bad mouthed their service in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Folks who have not served in the military do not know that junior folks can make a senior's life absolutely miserable. And there are a host of ways to do it!

(One tactic was supposedly dreamed up by slaves. This tactic is to play dumb and screw up at every opportunity. An other in common use is to carry out a senior's orders TO THE LETTER! (I've seen this one used quite a bit and was amazed that seniors never seemed to recognize what the troops were doing to them.)
Origanalist writes: Saturday, November, 07, 2009 9:48 AM
Greg
Please quit putting Chris Matthews nausiating face on the blog posts. I havn't had breakfast yet. Maybe start the video with a blacked out screen?
Ronna writes: Saturday, November, 07, 2009 10:02 AM
If Matthews doesn't think religion
played a role in the attack at Ford Hood, someone should quickly enlighten him to the fact that Muslims consider Allah to be Their God, and 'that God' that they believe in tells them to:
KILL THE INFIDEL WHERE YOU FIND THEM!
Also Matthyews the sissy boy needs to know that Muslims consider 'we westerners, or anyone else who does not believe as they do' to be: Ready?
INFIDELS.

Maybe those little tidbits could help persuade him that the Muslims don't need him to support their terrorist agenda of the anihilation of the western civilization.

I must say that when the next wave of terrorist attacks do hit America, (and they will!)I hope their victims are all the men and women who believe as this buffy buffoon does.
Origanalist writes: Saturday, November, 07, 2009 10:03 AM
trolls
Yes you drooling mental cases, I know it was posted yesterday in the late afternoon
allen writes: Saturday, November, 07, 2009 10:05 AM
Matthews
Hey is Matthews slobb'in OB's knob or what?????
Seadog writes: Saturday, November, 07, 2009 10:19 AM
allen
I doubt that he has, but he would!
Origanalist writes: Saturday, November, 07, 2009 11:06 AM
Allen
Now theres a mental picture I can really do without. You know thats what he thinks about to send that tingle down his leg.
ray writes: Saturday, November, 07, 2009 11:36 AM
Unbelievable, the excuses for
this traitor. Trying to convert patients! He should have been cashiered. He would have been if he wasn't a Muslim and one of the protected classes. Any Methodist who behaved toward Muslims the way he did, would have been gone long ago.

The Left tries to cover for the jihadis. They allied with them years ago. "The enemy of my enemy is my friend". As soon as the Muslims became the enemies of the West, the Left began supporting them. Of course, the Left has hated Christianity ever since they existed.
cottoneyed writes: Saturday, November, 07, 2009 12:53 PM
Nidal Hasan, "allah akbar", then
proceeds to gun down 13, and wound 39. obama, "lets not jump to conclusions". Nidal Hasan, "allah akbar", then proceeds to gun down 13, and wound 39. obama, "lets not jump to conclusions". CAIR, "Islam is not to blame". Nidal Hasan, "allah akbar", then proceeds to gun down 13, and wound 39. obama, "lets not jump to conclusions". CAIR, "Islam is not to blame".

It's all just a terrible misunderstanding, isn't it. It's all just a coincidence, isn't it. Muslims being involved in terrorists acts all around the globe. Muslims rioting daily in the UK, demanding to be under the Shariah. Muslim fathers killing their own daughters, in honor killings. It's all just a terrible misunderstanding, and we should "not jump to any conclusions". And all this misunderstanding is comin' to America. Are ya' ready, you on the left, are ya' ready, it's comin' to a theater near you, real soon! But don't forget, "lets not jump to any conclusions". Islams not to blame! It must be in the water.
cottoneyed writes: Saturday, November, 07, 2009 12:58 PM
What you must understand,
that when you read anything "loony lonny" says, it must go through a filter, because a few months ago she said that she was an attorney! And that was quickly disproved. So please, just laugh at what she has to say, because it's simply just a joke.
Careful with that axe, Eugene writes: Sunday, November, 08, 2009 9:10 AM
Seadog
"Say WHAAAAT? Now what ever gave you the idea that either of these culls "snapped?" They were sane people who hated -- nothing more.

Same as the idiot major. He hated. Period."

Me- Again, I'm not to sure about it. I'm pretty sure the guy who shot Tiller WAS nuts. I also kind of suspect that Hasan was nuts, too.

"He claims to have been harassed. I suspect that he was, considering his wild statements and blogging. And, don't forget, he supposedly tried to convert those he counseled to change to the Muslim religion and bad mouthed their service in Iraq and Afghanistan."

Me- But the qeustion I ask is, if he was doing these things, and people knew about them, why the hell didn't someone say something? IF the FBI was investigating his radical blog postings six months ago, what was this guy still doing on duty, still in a position where he could get as soldiers, not only in a rampage, but messing with their minds in his office?

My theory was that you had a "Corporal Klinger" situation here. They didn't want to discharge him because everyone would start wearing dresses....errr, quoting from the Koran.


"Folks who have not served in the military do not know that junior folks can make a senior's life absolutely miserable. And there are a host of ways to do it!

(One tactic was supposedly dreamed up by slaves. This tactic is to play dumb and screw up at every opportunity. An other in common use is to carry out a senior's orders TO THE LETTER! (I've seen this one used quite a bit and was amazed that seniors never seemed to recognize what the troops were doing to them.)"

Me- Quite right. We had this one Lt. who treated the enlisted like morons, even the NCO's, even though he had been an NCO himself before getting through OCS. Pretty much ran him out of the unit.
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