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. . . . I don't think so. It is follly to think that Obama will only raise taxes on the rich. Pure folly. He has said he will raise taxes in several areas - the death tax being one of them. That affects us all. And raising corporate taxes?? That affects us all as it "trickles down." You're deluding yourself if you think that only the "rich" will be affected. He has said he will raise taxes in many areas. I'll take a pass on that one. Truth is, Libs want a big nanny-state "take care of me" mentality, and Pubs don't. Pass on that. |
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[Do we want "change" in the direction of bigger government, higher taxes, bigger and badder entitlements??? That's a leftist "change" I don't want for my kids and grandkids.]
Bigger government isn't a leftist change. It's the same thing that happens in every subsequent administration regardless of party affiliation.
If you think McCain will change this culture any more than Bush, Bush Sr., or Reagan did, you're deluding yourself.
Higher taxes? Depends. Obama will raise taxes on people over a certain income (which most of us don't fall into) while McCain won't. Neither path will eliminate the yearly budget deficit. (Neither will cutting out all earmarks). And eventually, the books will have to be balanced or the debt will have to be repudiated.
The primary difference between the GOP and the Democrats resides in social issues and the morals they want the government to promote. |
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Ties right in with his "sweetie" comment doesn't it. |
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. . . . lipstickgate aside, it really comes down to where we want our country to head. Do we want "change" in the direction of bigger government, higher taxes, bigger and badder entitlements??? That's a leftist "change" I don't want for my kids and grandkids. Do I want my country to go the way of Europe??? Go do a little research. Do you want your country to be like Europe and the direction they're going??? I don't!!!! I want reform. Barak isn't gonna reform anything. He's just following the socialist policies of Europe. I'll take a pass on that. . . . |
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republican little piggies goes to washington.
the democrat piggies squealed all the way home.
obama rides the fence too much.
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...before. John McCain used it agains Hilary. Is that smear as well?
Folks, we are too busy with Dems, insted of concentrating on our own issues. I need more substance and somebody who can fix our problems.
Have a look here and you will know for who I will vote this November.
http://www.ronpaulforpresident2008.com
I AM PROUD TO BE CONSERVATIVE and I cannot support a candidate that goes after the Republican party. the same party that finances his campaign. |
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The AUDIENCE certainly thought that Obama was making an allusion to Sarah Palin. And that "old fish" line sure sounded like a not-so-subtle reference to the "wrinkly white-haired dude". And actually, giving Obama the benefit of the doubt makes things worse. Every official and unofficial word of the president is analyzed and
parsed like President Bush's ill-considered use of the word 'crusade' shortly after the 9/11 attacks.
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Not Osama bi-Laden? Not(the LATE) Saddam? Not (the LATE) Zarqawi? Not (the soon to be LATE)Khalid S. Mohammad?
7-Years ago today was the last Islamofascist successful mission on American soil. And, you Twaddle Spewing, Fecal Dwelling, Lie Spewing, Moral Cowardice Seething, Lice Crawling Midgets still don't get it. |
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Caesar Barakus Obamus thinks that we REALLY ARE THAT STUPID. |
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Lipstickgate is the epitome of the Liberals' tried and true M.O. of 'plausible deniability'. |
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It seems as if this blog is generated by those that are not, and have not for the past 8 years lived in the United States of America. This blog is generated for those who think Fox News is the only station on the television. Does this issue have ANYTHING to do with the immense real issues this country is facing? Palin is pulling a Kerry right now on the famous bridge project, as well as her now famous $27 million in earmarks. The Republican ticket is exactly what this country needs for those who are completely uneducated about what RNC actually stands for. McCain is despicable for choosing Palin after one meeting. What does this say about his decision making? Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran. Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Putin. Just bomb. Oh wait, I mean 'Drill baby' so I can save a few pennies on gas 10-15 years from now, while completely screwing the future energy of this country. Terd-blossom is up to his old tricks. Put a 73 yr old lobbyist's anus-kisser and an unqualified, ultra-partisan, dinosaurs never existed shrill little girl in the WH. |
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...as stupid as liberals! if anyone actually bothered to listen to the 30 seconds before the lipstick line and the subsequent "fish" line, it is absurdly clear he was commenting on mccain's trying to promote himself as change when he's supported bush so often. to suggest it was an attach on palin is a total non-sequitor. it would be like commenting on a bush/cheney proposal by saying "that dog don't hunt" and then have cheney's people claim you're making fun of his hunting accident. totally ludicrous and the right are the ones looking like idiots here. It's almost enough to consider switching my vote to obama (well, not really)...grow up and quit crying like a bunch of tree hugging lefties!! |
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John McCain on Hilary Clinton health care. 10/11/2007
And again on May 2, 2008
“They put some lipstick on the pig but it’s still a pig.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMPYkNQlJMM&feature=related
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No wonder Palin is afraid to give interviews! People will twist ANYTHING into a smear! |
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JEAN why are women like you satisfied to expect the better musician 'Hill' and Lady 'Sara' to play second fiddler to the fumbling man?! The sexist men do enough of that! Even the Blacks are loyal to their race. Its time for the women to make history! Ex Democrat |
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Kal, your Superman, SuperStar Obama may have
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kal writes: Wednesday, September, 10, 2008 8:31 PM
Oh for God sakes...
You right wingnuts are a shameless bunch of whiney pansies.
Sarah Palin is supposed to be your "tough as nails" answer to the left - yet you have made her into an infallible victim at every turn because - gasp she is a woman.
talk about sexism.
You are going to lose in Novemeber.
Arch says"
The recent polls would depict otherwise! |
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Jean writes: Wednesday, September, 10, 2008 9:30 PM
Lipstick on a Pig
As an animal lover, I consider this comparison to Sarah Palin an insult to pigs everywhere.
Arch says"
Jean. Are you jealous of Governor Palin? What has this woman ever done to you to deserve your vitriol?
Are you morbidly obese and leeching off the government dole? Does she somehow threaten your well being or liberty and freedoms? How can you be so hateful towards another of your gender unless you are insanely jealous of her positive lifestyle and ambition to share the opportunity to achieve the joy of human life with all Americans? What will she actually take away from you as Vice President that has you so vile? |
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Obama knew what he was doing but to me it is know big deal, if I were advising McCain I would tell him to dismiss it and move on. This stuff just gets old. |
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bufoboreas writes: Wednesday, September, 10, 2008 1:46 AM
arch
I am heartedly sorry if I was in anyway misunderstood to actually be suggesting that you strike Tonya or anyone for that matter. I was merely trying to highlight that she appeared to suggest the faintest hint of a whiff of a flicker of a possibility that Obama did not call Sara a rotund porker, a piggy, a shoat, a sow etc. I suspect that you on the other hand are resolute and steadfast in your belief that Obama said "Sara you are a fat pig", which you might even describe as rising above mere opinion and constitute an undisputed "fact" as determined by your objective perception of reality. Please tell me I am mistaken or tell me why you are so angry?
As for "bounces off me and sticks to you"? Yes, I am quite serious. However, it bounces back on me as well and vibrates between us as an infinite regress. Therefore, I share our responsibility. I still love you. Love Bufo.
Arch says: I love you too bufo! It is your politics that I abhor. When was the last time you thought that bestowing misery and death upon your fellow human beings was not a good idea? How long have you been advocating for the idea that enlightened human beings should be the distributors of human freedom and liberty? Why do you feel that pompous, self absorbed, phony,sleaze merchants, should be elected to represent American families with the power of the executive branch? And finally, Why would hard working American families vote for someone who vows to raise taxes on their bosses and attempt to buy votes with the promise of give away programs with the proceeds? P.S. Have you given up the bad habits yet? |
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As an animal lover, I consider this comparison to Sarah Palin an insult to pigs everywhere.
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Welcome to the world of lies. Here at TH you NEVER get the full context - only what they want the indoctrinated to see and parrot. These are the foot soldiers of misinformation - this is where that misinformed community gets their start, along with the FNC viewers. It's insidious, but this is how they work. Disgusting. |
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Every election has a lot a nonsense that has nothing to do with the issues that most people care about. It seems everyone has a doctorate in psycho analysis of what the "lipstick on a pig" refers to by Obama. Who cares what Obama meant or did not mean? We have 2 wars, an economy in the toilet, high energy prices, high cost of college tuition. Why can't we focus on the these REAL issues? Enough with this mud slinging. This kind of crap makes me stay home on election day because politicians all end up in the gutter. Republicans and democrats both play these word games. We really need a real third party that we can stand behind in America. |
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The clip posted on this site does not show the whole context of the speech. If the clip had gone 30 seconds longer people would have heard Barack Obama compare McCain to Bush by saying no matter how you wrap a fish it still smells. This had nothing to do with Sarah Palin. It was comparing McCain and Bush. The poster of the video knows this otherwise they would have played it in its entirety. Once again, people trying to create/fabricate their own news. |
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Yot to love this image:
This editorial cartoon ran in the St. Louis Post-Dispatch (pro-democrat). Think the lib/leftists can justify this?
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You right wingnuts are a shameless bunch of whiney pansies.
Sarah Palin is supposed to be your "tough as nails" answer to the left - yet you have made her into an infallible victim at every turn because - gasp she is a woman.
talk about sexism.
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Could it be that obama has a pathological thing against white women, being that he was raised by his white grandmother after being birthed and basically abandoned by his white mother. I know I left out that he also was abandoned by his black father, maybe that's where the self loathing narcissism kicks in.
You can't tell me that he doesn't hate white people, look at the church he spent 20 years in. If I went to the same church for 20 years and didn't start to conform to the message I heard, then either I wasted my time or I would be a sociopath. |
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is the epitomy of the left. He's arrogant, aloof, narcissistic, self-absorbed adolescent. He looks down with disdain on everything American. He hates everything tha this country stands for and hates those who love this country.
Obama is a man with an evil spirit. I don't say this lightly. He lacks moral convictions, decency, integrity and honesty. His wife is a vitriolic hateful person. Their life-long associations are dispicable.
He was born Muslim, raised Muslim, taught in the Muslim traditions. While he insists he is not a practicing Muslim, one thing's for sure - he is NOT a Christian.
God-forbid he should be elected, his presidency will be an unmitigated disaster of epic proportions.
He is simply a disgrace.
McCain/Palin '08 |
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[But plenty of women do, and that's what matters here.]
Ah. Plenty of women.
So my question to you would be (and set aside your partisan feelings to answer this) would people be outraged if Palin were a man?
I'm guessing probably not. No one would have made an issue of it and only the most rabidly partisan would have seen it as name-calling and not just a colloquialism.
This reminds me too much of the foolish person who took offense at the term 'black hole' (as some sort of racial slur) when someone used it to describe a bureaucracy that had become a bottleneck for paperwork. |
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writer had gone. You can read it in his body language.
Barak is so helpless in actual conversation and dialog as to be laughable.
He has stepped in the Macaca pit and he is not going to climb out any better than the former Virginia candidate.
Remember: Obama has never ahd to run in a competitive election cycle.
Obama is not only a a first term Senator who has done nothing as Senator. He is a newbie running the first race where his opponenet gets to talk back. He is not used to this, as he ahs pointed out recently. |
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Hugh Hewitt really is pointless.
How has this guy been of any benefit to the Republican Party?
The sooner he and his neocon cheerleaders get booted out of the party the better.
What I can't figure out is why he has a u-tube link that shows Obama is talking about McCain policies in contradition to his own drivel. |
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Why should Obama have voted against his party? The Democratic party has only been in power for a little less than two out of the last umpteen years. And, the president, this president -- the one McCain agrees with far more often than he disagrees -- is the one who set the agenda that has us on a fasttrack to bankruptcy and never-ending war. How many homes have been foreclosed on today? How many more tax breaks did the wealthiest among us take advantage of today? How much more debt can we possibly incur for our great grandchildren on the George W. Bush borrow-from-China-and-let-our-homeless/hungry/uninsured-find-a-bootstrap-to-pull-themselves-up-by plan? |
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* More leftist SCOTUS judges replaced with conservative consitutionalists
* Reform/privatization of social security
* Domestic exploration, drilling and refining
* More bad guys dead
Sounds like good change to me!
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. . . . First of all, the audience in question were Obamatrons. THEY knew what he was getting at. Second, McCain may have voted with the president on 90%; wonder what Hillary's record was??? We know Obama's was a 97% concurrence with HIS OWN party. So, if we're gonna talk about someone being the 'agent of change,' it doesn't seem like O has the better record. I'm interested in someone who can "work across the aisle." McCain's proven that - much to the dismay of some of his fellow Pub senators - he can do just that. Obama????? Nah. . . . . same ol' same ol' with that guy. . . . |
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This is the stupidest set of posts I've seen in quite a while.
Obama referred to the idea, the claim from the McCain campaign that the Republican candidate who voted with George W. Bush 90% of the time now promises to be an agent of change.
You want to call the same old thing "change?" It is like putting lipstick on a pig. It's still a pig. And McCain's plans (what plans?) will keep us in the same stupid economic and foreign policy mess we're in right now.
So the audience decided to make it about Sarah Palin and her lovely "let's attack Obama and not say a word of substance about anything" speech. So what?
If Lady Palin can't take this, and she can't take questions in a live interview until she's shown proper "deference," I don't suppose she's quite up to the task of dealing with the House, the Senate, and the rest of the world as vice president or, should something happen to a 72 year old man who's had cancer 4 times, as president.
But, by all means, let's keep ranting and raving about a colloquial saying ...
You have got to be kidding me.
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Jennifer:
Perhaps it really is "no big thing" that Obama clearly was hearkening back to Sarah Palin's "pit bull with lipstick" joke in his remark. Would it be "no big thing" if McCain were to refer to Obama's youth and inexperience by calling him "boy"? Could you just imagine the furor on the left?
This is just another example of a bitter Obama clinging to his guns and religiously shooting off his mouth before engaging brain. |
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Obama is worse than disingenuous, he's a a bold face liar! Does he think Americans are that stupid? I guess he's gotten away with lying to us so many times, with the bias left wing media looking the other way, that he thinks he can get away with anything ... like, "I never heard Pastor Wright make an anti-American racist remark in TWENTY YEARS". The democratic argument that the lipstick/pig remark was used before doesn't hold any water, because it was used in a different context. This time it's obviously a nasty slur directed towards Palin, in lieu of her lipstick pit bull remark. Elect McCain/Palin in November 2008. |
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"Do I think Obama specifically called Palin a pig? No."
But plenty of women do, and that's what matters here. |
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Nah, I ain't that clever.
Just ask the lefties on this thread, they'll gladly bear witness to that.
But it was pretty funny- thanks for catching it. |
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BO could dispel that suspicion by putting lipstick on a real pig while eating a pulled pork sandwich. Great photo op too.
One has to wonder what's going through his head with gaffes like "57 states" and "my muslim faith".
1) Pig-lipstick – An obvious veiled reference to Saracuda, specifically her most memorable line from “The Speech.”
2) Fish-stink – Longstanding detestable derogatory against woman.
3) CAT-nip – Any guesses???
This is the DNC’s “Presidential” candidate? I don’t suppose we’ll be hearing very much about gravitas in this election cycle from the Democrats.
Bottom line. One’s underlying character is truly exposed when they’re tried and tested in the forge of adversity. Cover up B. Hussein Obama, your misogyny is showing. |
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Was your allusion to BO being a WEATHERMAN intentional? If not, you accidentally hit upon a great pun. Maybe Bill Ayers could be his sidekick! |
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I am no fan of Obama however we need to pick our fights carefully. Obama's base will rise against attacks that are not founded. Even if this was an attack, Obama has said that he was not tarketing Palin. I certainly hope they do not hold Palin to ever comment she makes that is mistaken, even after she corrects the record. It is true Obama's camp is falling apart but we can't fall into crying wolf. I understand theories of political calculation however there is absolutely no gain here for Obama. |
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Friday segment and totally forgot the 2 & 3 segments this week. Also, the Big Boss was watching baseball on the Hi-Def. Maybe he's got them posted at his website. I like O'Reilly when Laura Ingraham is guest Hosting or he's talking to Dennis Miller or Laura. Bill's self-love gets tiresome, pretty quick, for me.
But, of course, Bill's got the biggest cable audience and that's why the panicky damage control folks at Baby Bammy's HQ set up the interview outta the blue last week. It hasn't plugged any hole in Tugboat Bama, though! He just keeps shootin' his'self in that..errrrr...place.
Even his MSM-Lapdawgs are starting to sit up and take notice. If those Vermin turn on Mr. Self-Serious-Bad-Timing and kind of make him a joke...
How far the phony do falleth. KA-BOOOOOOOOOOM! |
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I know the character that Obama is: Wile E. Coyote, Super Genius!
Being too clever by half he shows he's not clever at all. |
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Obama!
Stooping to Olberidiotmann, for advice?
Democrats, now they know, if they
had the smarts, they should have chosen Hillary, instead of Obama!
Countdown to libs' fury!
In November. |
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everyone seems to accept that since the media wants obama he can survive all these things that show he isnt pres. material, I for one count their support as one reason not to vote for obama, I for one think they seem to think we are all idiots in need of their guidence and only they can vet and only they can judge readiness for this job. I dont listen as I believe most people dont, to these pundits and idiots,the person i'd isten to is an idiot the likes of keith oberman or mr mathews ect.Obamas true colors are showing and they arent black they're hes got soomth words and no character or brain and cant be trusted . no thanks to obama and the bridge to nowhere, and to obamas 90 mil in earmarks he added this year mr "a different " canidate and politician, see ya and good bye. |
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[Ah, the old "this is a distraction from the real issues" dodge, all dressed up in some new fancy words.]
Dodge? What dodge? I'm calling Republicans and Democrats fools. What exactly am I dodging?
Do I think Obama specifically called Palin a pig? No.
Do I think even if it was veiled insinuation, that's it particularly inappropriate to call a politician a pig? Not really. Just a bit hypocritical. They're all parasitic pigs living off the labor of the rest of us wallowing in their own filth.
Do I think you are all insane for jumping to the worst conclusion possible and wasting all of this good rage and hyperbole when we should be focusing our anger across party lines at a corrupt, incompetent government that can't seemingly do anything right which is driving us further into debt every year while expanding its tendrils further into our lives? Yes. |
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The crowd started chanting, "No more pitbull!"
Innocent statement? Yeah. Right.
You leftists can peddle your spin on one of the Obama blogs, like Kos or the NYT where they're peddling the same jibberish. Nobody's buying it here.
And for you McCain/Palin supporters who don't think it is a big deal, think of this: What will Obama say to Putin or Ahmadinejad or Chavez and how will it be interpreted, by us and by them?
Just words? Depends on how seriously one takes the office of the POTUS. I'd have made a much more provacative, and politically damaging commercial. |
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from the obamadrones, trolls, and cpt zero acolytes.
First- you can try to spin all you want. It's out there, women are furious, and your flapping empty suit is stuck trying to defend a colossally stupid statement- for once.
clarity seeker:
"I'm not buying this connection...
...to Mrs. Palin."
Doesn't matter what you buy. There's a whole mess of women that are buying the connection. And they vote.
Leo, ChristianLib-
"John Mccain called Hillary Clinton's plan a pig with a lipstick? Did he call Hillary Clinton a pig?"
"John mccain used the expression twice toward hillarys health care plan. Was that sexist?"
No and no, but nice try on the misdirection. Hillary didn't raise a fuss, so I guess you need to go back and tell axelrod to keep searching for a way out of this debacle.
Dread:
"This is a tragic comedy where you're all (GOP and Dem alike) squabbling about nonsense, whining about how unfair everything is, and playing the victim card, while the country is sliding toward the precipice."
Ah, the old "this is a distraction from the real issues" dodge, all dressed up in some new fancy words. Oooooh- "precipice"- that's SCARY.
Nice try, but FAIL. We already saw b.hussein pull this one countless times in your primary. Old stuff, come up with something new.
You want issues? How about this: obama has NO executive experience, and a resume that is ludicrously thin. As underlined and bolded yesterday, this mope can do one, and only one thing well: read a teleprompter.
Maybe he can be a fill in weatherman on a local tv station with that skill, but President?
WRONG.
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Obama is an idiot, but we don't make ourselves out to be much better by making such a stink over something that clearly wasn't directed as a personal attack.
Seriously folks: we don't need to trump up dumb things like this to beat Obama. It just makes the entire process more trivial. The outrage over this offhand comment has made me somewhat ashamed to call myself a republican.
It's misplaced indignation is far more fitting for those of the left. |
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Once again this a.m. I heard talking heads speechifying about Sarah's 5 children. Let's get this straight. I completely believe this woman could handle 15 kids and be VP, but she won't have to. Her oldest child is her son, Track, who is 19 and heading to Iraq to serve his country. He does not need his mom to take care of him, he will be taking care of us. Her eldest daughter is 17, soon to be 18 and married. She will no doubt be in Alaska with her husband and taking care of her future child, not having her mother take care of her. That leaves Sarah with three children, two of whom appear very capable (especially little Piper) and who will have their dad as well as their mom to care for them. New baby Trig will have all of them to love and care for him. Living in the VP residence, 10 minutes from her office should make for a pretty simple commute for Sarah. Lib feminist need to take a breath and stop attacking Sarah over her mothering instincts. This is a phoney issue! |
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My guess is Barack has been taken out back and been given a butt whooping by Michelle for being such an idiot. New strategy: keep him out of the US until the election. Create a mass of popularity in Russia and the Middle East. That will get him votes here. And, he should visit his brother to get a photo opp there.
A true meltdown being documented for future candidates. Any chance Hillary will step in at the last minute and be their candidate? I am sure she'd rather not wait until 2012. |
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You can put lipstick on a Vice President, but she's still the Vice President.
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It's counterproductive to make too much of this. Obama didn't "call Sarah a pig", as Hugh hyperbolically asserted. He attempted some subliminal branding but was too "ham"-fisted to get away with it. Self-righteous protests to the contrary notwithstanding, his hysterical audience gave away the game! A McCain riposte usually lands with a thud; he's well advised to maintain a lofty silence. I recommend buttons depicting Porky Pig's cheery visage, waving "Th-th-that's all, folks!" More deft, don't you think?
I once read that a presidential adviser advised that a president never mention a body part. GHW "Read my lips..." Bush famously broke that rule and it's been downhill ever since. Please, let's stop. |
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Did you catch that bullsh** exchange betwixt teh Messiah and Bill O'Reilly?
Now that is worthy of a thread or two on Hugh's site.
That crap dished up by Obama should be on every conservative's radar----WHY? Because in many cases, thsi is the first that most Americans have heard of Bill Ayers adn any connection to teh "Annointed" one. For Obama to have been given a HUGE free pass on O'Reilly last night is despicable.
He deserves to be outed for additional detail about Ayers----Obama painted the picture---rather successfully so (for the new viewers), that he is a victim of "guilt-by-association", an association which he claims NO knowledge of teh REAL Bill Ayers----teh Bill Ayers who has recently made comments which indeed are consistent with his defense of bombings ad HATE for America, its FLAG, and that HE did not do enough in executing terror in the late 60's, etc. |
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Just admit it. Obama has a very thin skin and no judgement. He cannot have it both ways, and in light of the actions of his minions (claiming that Bristol is Trig's mother), his choice of words were foolish.
Whether Obama meant for it or not, his judgement is now the subject of this little episode. This is the nature of an election system the Dems created long ago. One cannot jump on and off the victimhood wagon forever. He really does look foolish and not very presidential. |
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McCAIN’S FORMULA 4 SUCCESS
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BUSH POLICY (90%) + Lipstick
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Lipstick is a petroleum product. WHERE IS THE OUTRAGE?!?!
From the Anti-First amendment liberal handbook-
Left-wing kook bylaw 127; sub 36b par. 12 states - "Liberal jokes shall to be limited to bio-degradable, environmentally safe, politically correct punchlines. All other punchlines are to be scorned, geered, and in almost every case, protested by a half full of loons carrying signs unrelated to the topic screaming at the top of their lungs that 'Bush suck'." |
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deal. I heard her say so on FoxNews. If John McCain can use the phrase, so can Barack Obama.
McCainiacs are stupid hypocrites who are treating Sarah Palin like a little girl.
OBAMA-BIDEN '08 !!!!!!!!!!!!
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[Dread.... Welcome, obamatroll.]
Oh, silly troll, you misunderstand. I think you're ALL equally insane.
This is a tragic comedy where you're all (GOP and Dem alike) squabbling about nonsense, whining about how unfair everything is, and playing the victim card, while the country is sliding toward the precipice.
Under better circumstances, this would all be highly entertaining.
And seriously?
"Boo-friggin' hoo, we can't talk about the issues because Obama doesn't have a record or stand on issues...?"
You do realize how silly that sounds. I mean, if you really believe that to be the case, then that's all you should be hitting him with 24/7. |
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McCain criticized Democratic contenders for offering what he called costly universal health care proposals that require too much government regulation. While he said he had not studied Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton's health-care plan, he said it was "eerily reminiscent" of the failed plan she offered as first lady in the early 1990s.
"I think they put some lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig," he said of her proposal.
october 11 2007
john mccain used the expression twice toward hillarys health care plan.
was that sexist?
i rarely agree with laura ingraham or other consevative talk show hosts like rick roberts but this morning they were scolding conservatives for jumping on this because it smacks of political correctness and gender politics.
poor sarah palin, she has to be protected from the press and is offended at every turn.
this woman is not ready for national office if she can't play in the major leagues.
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we're dishonest, uneducated nutbags and Sarah's from Hooterville.
Can we vote tomorrow? :o)
Signed, Bitter Independent
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I don’t know what Obama thought he was referring to with his lipstick quip, but I know what his listeners understood, and he had to know as well. Since he didn’t correct them, he is stuck with the malevolent interpretation. |
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So was Obama's comment. You are just so entrenched in your joyof victimhood...
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My first, second and third impulse was to hoist the scrawny-necked victocrat crybaby by his (and their) own petard. A day is enough, for goodness sake. A good weathervane--and, a classy, thick-skinned one--is Sarah's own NON-reaction to the oinker thing. Works for me. Let the women take it as they wish and write and talk to it as they wish...But, how about us guys stay outta that trap. PC-Police ain't OUR side. It's owned by the Libs & Leftists. Our Sarah shoots huge, wild Alaskan Critters for sport. Some Metro-Dork in Anointed attire doesn't bother her in the least.
Hugh, for Gawdsakes, there's BETTER-BIGGER-MORE DESERVING Rodents to shoot, skin and toss. Trust me, Bubba.
**Oh, one other follow-up note. I went to the Hillary Forum website which Jorge suggested below. My oh, myyyyyyyy, the Democrat women are up in arms, too. It's worth a trip there to put a smile on your chops. Promise.** |
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duck - it's a Duck - that would have been far more appropriate - the Lipstick reference was planned and backfired - the kid is a Rookie and will have more mis-steps in the next 55 days.
Pointing out what Palin did as a small town Mayor only caused some in the MSM and most intelligent voters to examine what a "community organizer" does (or doesn't do)
Implosion that is bordering on a complete meltdown. If a Hockey Mom can do this to the Rookie, imagine what our enemies can do to him - he has never led at any level - he has never authored a piece of legislation, much less a reform bill.
The Emperor has no clothes and Palin was able to point out in 20 minutes what the MSM has failed to see in 20 Months.
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McCain's comments were said in such a way that made obvious his intent. The "pig" was HRC's Health Care Plan, and not Hillary. Obama was trying to be cute -overplaying a double entendre in which the immediate audience would ge the message loud and clear (that is, Palin is a pig), but he could always say afterwards he was referring to Palin's policies.
The problem with this type of snarky speechifying is the media age we live in. Thanks to sites like YouTube, any nuance or double entendre would be missing. Obama, just comes off as looking as a misogynoist.
Not a smart move considering the impression Obama already gives to many women. The media orgy of Palin slander during the convention created a serious problem for Obama with women. Whether the intent was there or not, the viscious lies and rumours dressed as "news" has offended a large segment of white women and independents -two groups Obama must have if he is to win in November. Last night's comments only exasperate the problem. Obama and his campaign have to cease this obession with Palin now, or face the likely fact of losing big time in November. |
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BARAK HUSSEIN OBAMA demonstrates his TRUE MUSLIM faith by this PIG COMMENT. Muslims regard a pig as the lowest of all creatures so that comment places her as low as a pig. Get It ? |
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and how Hillary was dressing it up.
He was obviously not insulting Hillary.
And Hillary knows it.
Obama was deliberately comparing a woman to a pig and stinky fish.
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Obama it comes to these kinds of attacks, he gets behind in the polls, and starts attacking a woman, wow, and he wants to be President?
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John Mccain called Hillary Clinton's plan a pig with a lipstick? Did he call Hillary Clinton a pig?
You conservative nutjobs have lost even the last pretense of sanity, it's all double standards nowadays... shouldn't surprise me, that is what conservatism is all about: lying and deception. There is not a smidgen of honesty or dignity in conservatives and this brouhaha proves it beyond any doubt.
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...to Mrs. Palin.
Sure, it is a rather oft-used term, lipstick, this past week or so.
However, if one is attempting to give Obama, ahem...."credit" for having....in some way referenced Sarah Palin while mentioning McCain's policies, it was done in very oblique fashion.
For me, that monkey simply does not fly.
Worse case scenario, he actually devised this comment to mean exactly what many are chattering about----well, I say, "Is that all you got, stutter-boy?"
This shmoe who has no clue as to how many states there are in America---is it 57, or somehere around that number.....? Someone give him a teleprompter, please.
I would think people would be complaining more about his FECKLESS responses to Bill O'Reilly on Tuesday night. Now that was worthy fodder. He was a tapdancin' fool. And O'Reilly, try as he may to pin him down on a few key issuses----was unsuccessful, at best. |
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In the aftermath of the MSM/Palin debacle one would think Obama would steer clear of Palin and concentrate on McCain. It is obvious now that the slander the bloggers/MSM did to Palin since the Convention is hurting Obama in the polls. Many voters are connecting Obama's campaign and website like the DailyKos (which BTW started the Bristol is Trig's Mother slander). The smart move would have been to leave Palin alone, assume a low profile for a week and wait for the air to leave to Palin balloon.
But Obama couldn't leave Palin alone. It is obvious now him and his staff are obessing over her. Monday, the Huffington Post carried a post slamming Palin and using the words pigs and lipstick in the same sentence. Ditto for the Obama website. And now last night, Obama uttered the phrase on-air in front of cameras. No matter the intent, the video in and of itself poses a huge problem for Obama. He may have just lost bigtime the White Woman Vote. He already had some problems with the Hillary supporters. Last night he extended that "problem" to all women.
David Gergen said it best last night when he quipped that it appears that Obama is not handling the pressure of a McCain/Palin ticket. He went as far as saying the Obama/Biden ticket is collapsing. Now, I wouldn't go that far, but if Obama cannot control himself and retool his message, he will be cooked by the end of September. Obama has had a rotten 60 days. His 15 point lead in June has no evolved into a 5 point deficit. |
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READ MY LIPSTICK, KISS MY *SS
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Obama's supporters will try to spin this and make it other than it was intended. He intended it to be an insult to Sarah Palin, you can tell by his overt body language in the delivery. (Very similar to his flip off gesture to Hillary)What he has also done is insult women voters...again...
that probably was unintentional, but he can't seem to help himself.
Women will not appreciate being told by his spin-meisters on how to interpret this either. They will look at this video, and they will know it in their hearts
Well, you know what they say about h*ll having no fury...what a dumb
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I grew up on a farm in the rural south and you can believe me when I tell you that I recognize a pig when I see one.
Sarah Palin is NO pig. However, if ever there ever was a pig it is BHO himself.
The Democratic party has been putting lipstick on the Barry PIG for almost 2 years now. In fact, they have put some much lipstick on him that he looks like a "Circus Clown".
Remember, You can put lipstick on a "Community Organizer" but he is still just a "Community Organizer".
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Public support for Republican Party candidates to the House of Representatives increased dramatically this month in the United States, according to a poll by Gallup released by USA Today. 50 per cent of respondents would vote for the GOP contender in their congressional district, up eight points since August.
http://www.angus-reid.com/polls/view/31713/marked_shift_in_ us_congressional_race/
Barack Hussein Obama? Thank you, Karl Rove!
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I couldn't believe it when I saw this clip on televisino last night!
Unbelievable. |
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I don't know or care how much Kos Koolaid this person has drunk. |
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Why does using the word "macaca" disqualify Senator George Allen from running for President, and using the word "pig" does not disqualify Barak Obama?
Both men claim that is was a slip.
We all tried to point out that the use of the word was innocent on the part of Senator Allen, but the wild jackels on the left wouldn't let it go. Senator Allen probably didn't know it was an insult, or he wouldn't have used it, but Lefties have proven time and again that they have no tolerance, kindness and mercy over and over.
Sauce for the goose, sauce for the gander. |
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and that Obama didn't mean to sound like he was calling Sarah Palin a pig.
Just how does Barak expect to carry on diplomacy with the perpetually P.O.ed Islamists, if he lets offensive words slip accidently?
Can you imagine if he had made that same statement about the President of Iran, say, especially if they manage to build a nuclear bomb under his nose?
This is just one more example of Obama's immaturity and lack of judgement. |
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By placing "Lipstick [pause]" and "Old Fish [pause]" in the same sentence "O" conveyed to both his audience and many undecided women code that was taken as a mockery of both Palin and McCain.
Independently and without the pause for an applause line a slur would not have been perceived.
It doesn't matter what any of us on this board think, the jab motivated 7 women to ask me for yard signs, promise to contribute and ask where to volunteer last night. I doubt if they were the only 7 he lit up. |
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Obama talking about Gov. Palin said. "She hasn’t been on the scene, you know, she’s got five kids and my hat goes off to anybody who’s looking after five. I’ve got two and they tire Michelle and me out!"
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So if 2 kids is to much for both Obama and his wife how can Barack Hussein Obama II possibly take on the responsibility to be President & Commander in Chief of Armed Force of the USA???
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Pipe in the wee hours, trying to stop the bleeding. Anybody remember alllllllll the way back about a year ago when The Bloviator(PL, who was then LP, but that's another Bong Story..)was simply a vastly wordy, humorless Post Modernist? Now, he spends his days thinking up new ways of calling the sky black, the moon green cheese and down is up. Whew. What one campaign-election year can do to lithium deprived Leftoid!
LL, you amiable Lib-Doofus, your Kid is melting..m..e..l...t..i...n...g..ggggggggg... Reality has come to roost and it's eating him. Baby Bammy is TOAST. He wears very badly with time. The reason is that he never was anywhere near the sum of his alleged parts. Bummer, huh. McJuan, to my amazement wears just fine, especially now that the REAL-Authentic ALL American Girl is at his side. (**Heard from Gaffney last night that John Bolton is advising Sarah on Forign Policy and killing Evil Doers. Ain't that COOL?**) So, LL, let's review, shall we..O'Bammy is TOAST. McPalin are discussing their Cabinet.
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uhh..hmmmmm.... or....now wait a minute. What the American people mean to say is.... "You just cooked your goose Obama. IT'S OVER!
Let's just say for argument sake you didn't mean Palin was a pig. (Which I don't believe for a second. It was a direct slam at Palin.) You are not fit to be POTUS.
Almost every statement that comes out of your mouth has to be explained...clarified...done-over. How the h**l can we have this guy as the face of America. Are you kidding me?
err,ahhh, now wait Putin...hold on, now wait a minute. Are you kidding me? |
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Palin, herself said that the only difference between a hockey mom and a pitbull is lipstick. So, was she saying that she is a dog? A really mean dog that is known to tear up children and killing them? Does this sound absurd to you people? If so, then it's obvious that Obama didn't call Palin a "pig".
Think people, think. It's called a brain. Use it or lose it. Back to the issues. This is a non-issue. |
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Don't you get it? The Repubs don't WANT this to be about issues. If it is, they lose, big time.
Right now they're having fun because they're in the middle of a convention bounce which has fooled them into thinking they're winning. Mondale thought the same thing right after he picked Ferraro. It took about 10 days for the polls to balance back out. Sit tight another 5-7 days, while the public learns the truth about Palin, and let's see where we really are. |
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That's Mr. Traitor to you, bub.:)
Oh, and that wasn't me calling out Palin for chasing after Trooper Wooten, that was a judge. But by all means, defame the trooper with lies to ty and destroy his credibility while obstructing the investigation.. Trooper Wooten, meet Kathleen Willey. Turns out Palin and HRC do have much in common. |
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and ROMNEY!!! Did McCain call Hillary a "pig" when he used the same line against Hillary's health care proposal?
Here's his quote:
"when asked about Mrs. Clinton his speech, he said her proposal was “eerily” similar to the plan she came up with in 1993, when she headed a health care reorganization effort during her husband’s administration. “I think they put some lipstick on a pig,” he said, “but it’s still a pig.”
Geez, this idiom has been around for decades and Obama has used it numerous times. McCain even used it against Romney. Did Obama call Palin a "stinky fish" too? Come on, let's stick to issues and policies, not straw grasping garbage.
READ THIS:
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/09/a-piggish-d ebat.html
and this:
and this:
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Imagine Sarah telling any middle American crowd about the admitted history of Trooper Wooten (you hit the high points, and there is more that he admitted in his bizarre CNN interview), and saying "Some would have not wanted to make waves with the good 'ol boy network, just let boys be boys -- well, I knew this guy because he was once married to my sister, and, given his outrageous conduct, you bet I did my best to get him fired, because somebody like that is about the last person I want running around with a gun, a taser, and a patrol car in my state."
Standing O, massive cheers, more love for Sarah, every time.
If she had done nothing, of course, they'd be saying she ignored serious police misconduct to protect a family member.
Dollars to donuts she's got a zinger that plays on lipstick coming for the distinguished Senator from all three counties of Delaware. I don't think this is a shrinking violet.
I only hope these tone deaf slime mongers keep on keeping on. McCain/Palin and company are so far inside the Dems decision cycle it ain't funny. Its looking more and more landslide for the home team every day now. |
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All you do is throw the word liar around. Doesn't matter the thread. Doesn't matter the topic. Just accuse someone of lying without any proof. It really saddens me to know that there are so many out there like you. I wish you all would move to Europe or Canada.
Like I said earlier, show me one rational lefty. Just one. |
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LL has more patriotism in his pinky than any unAmerican creep you would vote for--including that ticket of yours that is trying to lie its way into the Presidency. UnAmerican is a person who would destroy our civic heritage--and you can't have democracy, consent of the governed, when one side is just lying with impunity.
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Just pathetic. McCain used the same expression on HRC. But who cares? Just lie about it. The media will turn it into "he says, she says."
Lets hope Americans are smarter than Hugh and the Reeps give them credit for. We probably are. In the end, after they have had a month or two, Americans can see through a tissue of lies.
But good luck with the technics. It is certainly an audacious plan. If you win, ya get your one party state. A weak and cowardly media, a proven strategy with the technics of lying--complete power, complete freedom from accountability. Quite a legacy, from a generation of "conservative" swine.
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else wonder how these left wing fanatical kooks can keep harping on some trooper who gets drunk on the job and tasers 10 year old kids and at the same time their candidate hangs out with terrorists and convicted felons?
Let's see, one candidate tries to fire a police who drinks in his patrol car, tasers 10 year olds, and threatens to kill someone and that's bad. But one candidate hangs out with an unapologetic terrorist, get's a shady loan from a convicted felon, and attends a racist and un-American church and that's good.
People like laborlawyer would vote for bin Laden himself before voting for a patriotic American. |
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What is the relevance of something McCain said about Hillary back in October that few people heard? Palin cracked a memorable line that used the word "lipstick" as its punchline. At her party's national convention. Seen and heard by 40 million people. Obama used that word of the punchline and associated it with a pig. That it has been a folksy saying DOES NOT MATTER GIVEN THE CURRENT NARRATIVE OF THE WORD LIPSTICK IN OUR POLITICAL DISCOURSE. Unfortunately for Mr. Obama, women don't like to be associated with pigs. Doubly unfortunate for him, women also have the right to vote.
This guy is either a complete dunce, or a complete jerk. Either way, it doesn't matter as the damage cannot be undone. His campaign has gone from can't lose, to slight lead, to dead heat, and now to Dukakis. If his Clouseau-like bumbling and stumbling continues, he will sink to the depths of Wally Mondale! |
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like laborlawyer keep lying about the bridge to nowhere? It's indisputable that Palin killed it. Even the Alaska democrat party gives her credit. Can't the dems win on their own ideas? How do we get them to stop lying? |
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..the vetting of Palin continues:
http://www.newsweek.com/id/158140
Turns out she had to be warned- repeatedly- to stop harassing former brother-in-law Trooper Wooten by a judge. The Judge called her actions a "form of child abuse".
That's the same trooper she abused her power trying to get fired. And then lied about what she did. Which she and McCain are now covering up.
In a couple of weeks, the voters will know the real Sarah Palin, and thy won't want her anywhere near the White House. |
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"Words? Just words?"
Now that their lunch is being handed to them in their hats, suddenly, out of nowhere, a whole choirful of Dems (in addition to the several cited above, see Clarence Page's column in Chicago Tribune today) are using precisely the same lipstick cracks and say, oh, King's X, its just words everybody uses all the time, no insults going on here.
When a slug of hot metal comes through the roof, it might be an asteroid. When 6 of them do in rapid succession, chances are its a mortar attack.
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Do I think Obama is a complete modern day Hamlet with all his existential angst? If so then can we apply the old saw by Sartre, “Act as if any human being were in your shoes, and be compelled to act exactly the same way?” or some such similar formulation. Which is to say that is the most grotesque and silly formulation for absolute totalitarianism I’ve ever encountered. No, there is no such evidence that Barack has ever thought as much as the character Hamlet. His choosing of a Dodo bird Biden proves as much. |
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BO tried to get his point and his insults off in one comment. This is what the French call a "double entendre". This is what Americans call a backfire! Poor BO couldn't get away with it! |
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Obama's big thing was Change and being above politics-as-usual, which are connected. He's lost a lot of that.
His answer for a three-line resume has been judgment. He's lost a lot of that.
He stood, for a while, as a very positive and open person, looking to help us all move ahead. Not so much lately.
He's tried to preempt mudslinging... now he is up to his knees in ugly rhetoric.
How do people stop thinking of a chain that goes Palin, Biden, Hillary? There are no other decisions on Obama's resume, only that he picked Biden over Hillary & now has to deal with Palin.
Ouch. And now he cannot change the channel...
Palin, Biden, Hillary... Palin, Biden, Hillary...
Tell me again, why is Biden the VP? |
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bufoboreas writes: Wednesday, September, 10, 2008 12:52
Jon.nine/arch
Arch: bounces off me and sticks to you.
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bufoboreas writes: Wednesday, September, 10, 2008 12:40 AM
Tonya
Tonya, you said: "Whether or not he meant to call Palin a pig, the Chicago Machine Cat is out of the bag." Are you admitting that it is possible that Obama was not calling Palin a Piggy? Is so, for shame. Obama is a very bad man. Arch please smack her around and enforce a little party discipline.
Love Bufo.
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Why do you suggest I would ever smack a woman? You must remember that all people are not like you libtards my dear friend Bufo! Some of us have control over our emotions and differ from the animal world. |
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It was classic Obama-off-the-telepromter. The word lipstick's been going around the world with Palin's hockey mom reference.
The word lipstick was lurking in Obama's subconscious and his true self came out. I'll bet Michelle is beating him to a pulp as we speak.
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Tiger184 writes: Wednesday, September, 10, 2008 12:43 AM
Hazel
Do you have a beard?
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ROTFLMAO! As they say in Seattle as understood by Puget Sound clam diggers; Only at red tide do you never eat a bearded clam! |
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Jon.nine writes: Wednesday, September, 10, 2008 12:38 AM
bufoboreas
Apparently not.
"Fair is foul, and foul is fair,
Hover through the fog and filthy air."
Which describes you and your merry fare.
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Brilliant!! What a lout that Bufo has turned out I see. Filthy and nauseating as most libtards will be. Classless and clueless of political savvy. Obammy or death will be his decree! |
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Yesterday, Sept 8, on MSNBC, the same comment was used by a Dem operative when the discussion was on Sarah Palin. Either Obama is not very smart or that was a trial balloon to see how the comment would go over in the lib press. I am sorry that I did not write down the person who said it first and what show it was on. |
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This Obama campaign is on the skids. They are resorting to anything outrageous so they can get their media time. No talk of accomplishments, just personality bashing. Look's like all of his adoring fans on this blog have taken their cue from their leader, "Attack Personalities" don't talk or discuss substance. |
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Apparently not.
"Fair is foul, and foul is fair,
Hover through the fog and filthy air."
Which describes you and your merry fare. |
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. . . . had a similar conversation with my 17 year old son last night. . . the idealist. Defending his holy "messiahship" at every turn. I told him to go get a job and he'd be a Pub by his first paycheck. He applied to Subway after school today. Can't wait to have a clear-headed kid in my house! |
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I've also heard the 'pig' metaphor in the past, but when I heard it today, it didn't seem as funny as the crowd at Obama's rally in Virginia found it.
Whether or not he meant to call Palin a pig, the Chicago Machine Cat is out of the bag. Not used to being outdone or outshined, Obama is clearly angry and is targeting Sarah Palin, clearly the game changer in this race. From what I've read so far in David Freddoso's book, it seems the facade of Barack Obama being above the fray of 'Politics as usual is starting to slip. And he's now employing the same type of hardball tactics he used to destroy people like Alice Palmer and Forrest Claypool (both Democrats; one a Black Female).
As it was pointed out on today's show, the smell of fear and death are all over the Obama Campaign. |
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The predictable claims that Obama did not mean Palin when he referrred to "lipstick on a pig" are absurd. Clearly the link is to Sarah's hockey Mom joke. More telling, nutroots/liberal sites have been making the same insult -- and Biden made a "lipstick" joke just yesterday.
See for yourself (just a few examples):
http://whitenoiseinsanity.wordpress.com/2008/09/05/joe-bide n-makes-sarah-palin-look-like-lipstick-wearing-pig/
http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-69846
http://www.slate.com/discuss/forums/thread/1768634.aspx
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0908/13315.html
These robots have clearly been told by their handlers to attack Palin indirectly, using a catchword that any dolt will immediately associate with her, but that they can dodge in their usual dissembling manner.
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re: Carvill. He had a great quote some weeks ago. To paraphrase, "What do you call the candidate who captures the youth vote? Loser."
Here's another great quote, "Idealism is the final indulgence of youth."
But my favorite is, "If you're a Republican when you're 20, you have no heart. If you're a Democrat when you're 40, you have no brain." |
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Something tells me that "in for a penny, in for a pound." I would not be surprised to hear this become the defiant refrain of the Obama campaign. The "pig" comment cheered up the faithful. Damn the torpedoes, they will want to hear it again. And he may oblige. |
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used the phrase a year ago to describe the "enforcement" part of D-lite's amnesty bill.
My guess? The One is a glib, flim flam man-child. He's way, way out of his league in every way, both the profound and trivial. I've never seen or read about a presidential candidate so remarkably unqualified. Ever.
I have mixed emotions: on the one hand schadenfreude, on the other I am actually starting to feel sorry for the dumba**.
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I love the smell of Obama desperation in the morning, smells like....victory! |
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. . . . but right now the likes of Carvell and every other lib pundit are grabbing their duct tape - ready to seal their candidate's mouth shut. Oh, and I think you're absolutely right on the ad-libbing part. Good heavens, I don't think any speech writer would've written THAT line!!! They know it would be political suicide. And as for your man's 2nd grade political judgement? well, you said it Dale, not me. . . . |
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Michelle Obama said that they have discovered that Palin was Pork Queen at one time. That was just before BHO's lipstick comment. Listening to Obama, it sounds like someone has taken the tail off the plane and it's yawing and pitching, trying to find direction. |
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Obama’s disguise was so good that like a two dimensional character couldn’t figure out who Clark Kent was when wearing glasses.
By the way what’s with the wrapped up fish in newspaper? Is that a Chicago reference? |
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hand to the forehead just before he released the snark. Wow! He knew he was heading into bad territory. Can't wait to see what's next! I swear, this is the first election season that I've actually enjoyed! |
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If you look at the video, it's pretty clear that Obama was ad-libbing, with several false starts and hesitations in his sentences. It looks like he just grabbed the analogy out of the air. Does anyone have evidence it was scripted?
But IF you are right that Obama did it deliberately, then you must think Obama has the political judgment of a second-grader. (No one has suggested that a prudent politician would think calling Palin a pig would be good politics.) Yet he somehow beat the Clinton machine, so that can't be right, can it?
So most of you fall back to the "out of touch" criticism, but that's a bit lame under the circumstances. In any event, it's just cynical and disingenuous playing of the sexism card. Which you have the right to do, but don’t think you’re any better than Al Sharpton.
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dudley writes: Tuesday, September, 09, 2008 11:25 PM
Arch
Nice to hear from ya! You sound well-spoken tonight, erudite, almost.
This was a thread about, you know, lipstick, not polls (I personally believe every poll that comes out, no reason not to). But lipstick, my boy, and pitbulls, and calling the same thing something different just because it has lipstick on..
send your lipstick to Obama, kid, say it's from your wife..
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Dudley. My friend, you have brightened my day. Thank you for the tip. Now, when you can stop your panic driven spinneret about the gaffe Obammy just made, regarding the already been used by Palin, phraseoligy concerning lipstick, to the hockeymoms at the convention, then you can regain my respect. Until them you are flailing and falling down the vent of losers. Obammy will pay a heavy toll for this one! |
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Kermit. You and I are thinking alike! Good post! |
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Dale/Jennifer. You cannot claim that McCain's usage of the phrase was anything but genuine. However, Obammy had a presequiter in place. That being Palin's sincere joke. This simply cannot be construed or spun as anything but a smear against Palin. Or could it be your messiah is too out of touch with real people to realize it? How do you regard the recent polling now, Libtards? (Laughter) (more laughter) ( maniacal laughter) |
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. . . . it ceased to be "just an expression" once Palin threw out the hockeymom/lipstick joke last week. And just a few days later Obama uses it to describe the McCain campaign. Nah. Just watch the Obomatron audience on the video. . . . THEY got it. . .. they just didn't know they were helping to seal their man's fate. |
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"Last October, asked about Sen. Hillary Clinton's health care plan, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., was blunt. McCain said Clinton's proposal was “eerily” similar to the ill-fated plan she devised in 1993. “I think they put some lipstick on a pig,” he said, “but it’s still a pig.”
McCain's former press secretary, Torie Clarke, wrote a book called "Lipstick on a Pig: Winning in the No-Spin Era."
Elizabeth Edwards told some health journalists that McCain's health care plan was like “painting lipstick on a pig.”
Tonight Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., said of McCain painting himself as a change agent, "You know, you can put lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig."
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/09/a- ... |
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LibertarianHawk writes: Tuesday, September, 09, 2008 11:03 PM
Macaca in Makeup.
I'm not sure Obama's supporters realize what he's done here. I'm not sure he realizes what he's done.
The McCain camp needs to handle this with a "there you go again" kind of humor. Palin needs to address the comment in a speech and she needs to do it with a joke.
A little outrage, yes. But don't overdo the outrage...nobody will buy it. If she can rise above this taunt and show her class, this can be a decisive blow.
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Wow! YOU should be a consultant to the Palin/McCain campaign! Genius stratagy LibertarianHawk! Brilliant thinking! |
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Frankly, it's good to see him fighting back. If SarahBarracuda can't handle him taking her "lipstick" joke and turning it on its head to point out the fact that the McCain ticket is nothing but recycled garbage, then she needs to go back to Alaska (or wherever it is that the McCain campaign has her in sotrage and hiding form the press). If she can't take it, then the joke's on her. I'm not cutting her any slack until she comes out of hiding and answers a few policy questions.
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William,
On the accent thing. Have you noticed how he has an 'ssss' sound at the end of some of his words? If drives my wife crazy. I wonder if he is a member of the house of slitherin? someone could have some photoshop fun with that. |
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Melissa has it right...all of us McCain/Palin supporters should send a tube of Passion Pink lipstick to the Obama campaign. I'm doing it first thing tomorrow. Somebody, please, help me spread the word! |
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I'm not sure Obama's supporters realize what he's done here. I'm not sure he realizes what he's done.
The McCain camp needs to handle this with a "there you go again" kind of humor. Palin needs to address the comment in a speech and she needs to do it with a joke.
A little outrage, yes. But don't overdo the outrage...nobody will buy it. If she can rise above this taunt and show her class, this can be a decisive blow. |
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Folks, you are now witnesses to a massive immolation called the Obama campaign........When you look back at what happen to the collaspe of a sure fire win this November and how it came to be, this is one of many turning points. Wow!!!!! |
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dudley writes: Tuesday, September, 09, 2008 10:52 PM
Now don't get me wrong, DP
I think Sarah's attractive.. lipstick and all
But every word she speaks comes from Rove, Schmidt, Bolton, Cheney, and Bush. (McCain, probably very little input). She'll do what she's told, probably be good at it.
McCain? Oh well..
And you rightwingers think ya gonna win?
Barack Obama
Arch says:
Read this and weep poor Dudley!
The more interesting question is whether Obama is starting to come apart at the seams. As his party's Presidential nominee, he should be doing battle with John McCain, not Sarah Palin. But he seemingly can't help himself. Over the last couple of days, several generally-apolitical people have told me that they think Obama has been melting down ever since Palin's nomination was announced. Hysteria does appear to be sweeping the Obama camp, with over the top attacks on both Palin and McCain. One wonders whether their internal polling numbers are really, really bad.
ONE MORE: While Barack Obama and his minions have been descending into hate politics, John McCain and Sarah Palin have been doing something quite different. Which, I suppose, will cause liberals to hate them all the more.
Sound familiar Dudley? Are you one of those hysterical ones? Where is your faith in polls now, my simple friend? |
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The Mighty Obumble has been careening, spinning out-of-conrol toward an inevitable crack-up. The attempt to steal the show on the night of McCain's accepance speech by appearing on O'Reilly, his "promise" not to take the guns of worried voters in PA., his Freudian slip about his "Muslim faith" etc. But today was the day of crash and burn! Lipstick on a pig? Smells like dead fish? I guess that the Mighty Obumble, knowing that the middle-class women's vote is lost, is now attemting to sew up the all-important "obnoxious sexist misogynist" vote. Good luck with that strategy Islamobama! We'll see how that shakes out in November. |
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I think Sarah's attractive.. lipstick and all
But every word she speaks comes from Rove, Schmidt, Bolton, Cheney, and Bush. (McCain, probably very little input). She'll do what she's told, probably be good at it.
McCain? Oh well..
And you rightwingers think ya gonna win?
Barack Obama
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. . . . if any liberal wants to defend this comment as NOT referring to Sarah Palin, one only has to look at the audience behind him. This was HIS audience. These are Obama supporters. Watch their reaction. THEY knew what he meant. . . . and he MEANT Sarah Palin. It's not even possible to deny this and NOT look like Baghdad Bob. Really people, it's inarguable. |
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while I am not a fan of the Obama campaign, i seriously doubt he meant to make the coment in the way it was perceived. I would look at this as one more example of Senator Obama's inexperience and lack of qualification. McCain/Palin will roll into the White House. |
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Welcome, obamatroll.
Your analysis is ohsoclose to being cogent- it is in fact sad that we have to discuss ohblahblah's latest foray into infantile "cleverness", just like it was sad that Hillary's backers had to deal with his moronic "inadvertent" middle finger scratch.
If only we could focus on the issues, and the records of the respective candidates- I think that's what your lament is. And I agree.
But wait a minute- b.hussein has no record to focus on. It's also impossible to discuss issues with this cypher since he constantly changes his "beliefs"- from FISA to the Surge to Taxes (now he's against an increase until we are past the nonexistent "recession") to his civil defense force to well, it just gets one dizzy.
Captain Zero is an empty vessel- his only hope is to keep pushing the cult of personality...he has nothing else. |
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Just got back from a local restaurant and supermarket stop on way home. Was wearing my McCain-Palin '08 "T" from the C. Springs rally.
Couple tables over was going ballistic over the lipstick remark, gave me a thumbs up as I left, after cordialities they came out to Van to pickup 3 yard signs.. asked where to volunteer. Gladly promised to go home and contribute. They were livid.
Two ladies saw me in check-out line and expressed their disgust at Lipstick remarks.. etc. etc. followed me to car and took 4 more yard signs and asked directions to McCain HQ to volunteer. Gladly promised to go home and contribute. Said something about calling everyone in their church. They were PI$$$$$ed! |
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The news isn't all bad. Al Franken has won the Democratic primary in Minnesota.
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
(Thank you, Lord....!) |
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Has anybody else noticed this creepy put-on accent? Apparently trying to connect with the "rural folks". Never mind that he was raised in Hawaii and Indonesia. |
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Gads you're a moron.
Your high-school level "sarcasm" is tiresome, and it's a good country mile from clever.
You can try to joke and play the fool (the one thing you're excelling at on this thread) all you like, but your hero the Wizard of Uhs is tanking fast, all your pathetic efforts to distract from that reality notwithstanding. |
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I believe there are laws against posting while intoxicated.....
You might want to go sleep it off, pal.... |
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Who are you, really? Beavis, or Butthead? heh...heh...heh |
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The dreaded lipstick wars of 2008 where anonymous trolls of every partisan stripe came forth to rally there minions over whether a female politician should prefer to be labeled an animal that is known for randomly snapping and mauling innocent people and children leaving them horribly scarred for life and requiring years of painful reconstructive surgery... or a greedy all-consuming animal that enjoys wallowing around in the filth and muck.
Thus there was much rejoicing in Washington as the people no longer cared that the government was socializing banks; funneling non-existent dollars to foreign banks, special interests and themselves; and incompetently running the country and economy into the ground.
For there were far greater battles to fight in the days ahead, such as how much Cindy McCain's beautiful gowns cost and flag pins. |
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John Bolton? No kidding! So, Karl Rove and Steve Schmidt scripting her every word, Bolton on FP, and (let's be candid, shall we?) Cheney on the VP's job. Bush himself overseeing it from a distance (the old Mc guy wisely resting on the sidelines). WHAT A TEAM! Amen Amen |
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And he will fold. Joe Biden is already dragging him down... STAND UP JOE, at least YOU CAN. |
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Can somebody help me with this. I missed most of the Dems convention, did their delegates Boo the Boy Scouts this year? It is always a heart warming moment. |
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I agree with those who say he meant to make the comparison... it's the pause, as some above have mentioned, that makes me think so... he pauses to let the implication sink in and the laughter grow when in a simple comparison there would have been no pause.
I also agree that it doesn't matter now what Obama or Biden say -- they have proven too brilliant for their own good. |
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Lipstick on their collars
"I'll bet Palin's speech was written by Karl Rove, or his gopher, Steve Schmidt. Prove me wrong."
Uh, no. You made the imbecilic assertion, the onus is upon you to justify it.
"Are we sick of them, or what."
I'll take the "or what" option. You, however, we are quite sick of around here.
Oh, and by the way- did Obama write all of his speeches? We know biden didn't write his- he steals his from British politicians.
Obama. No resume, no clue, soon to have no money, no chance.
Nope. Mange.
Empty suit, blowing.
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show tonight. He was talking to Frank Gaffney and asked,'So, is it true that John Bolton is advising Governor Palin on Foreign Policy?' Gaffney assured him that it is true! YOWZZAAAA, I'm luvin' this campaign--from the minute Sarah was announced. What's next, for Gawdsakes?? Doug Feith as McPalin's Sec'y of Defense? I'm giddy with Nefarious Neocon Delight.
This disclosure ought to get the Leftroid Pollution on the HH threads radiant with rage. Can't wait. DON'T feed the vermin. :-) |
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We're done here. I think Sarah's a cutie, but damn, don't her lipstick look a mess now. That's what happens when Karl Rove and Steve Schmidt write yer speech, Bush people run your campaign. Change gonna come. Go Barack, be strong.. |
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in full effect, spinning and deflecting for all they're worth.
Hazel, Mummy: you talk about the lies of McCain and Palin, presumably about the empty suit that's paying you. What specifically are they saying about captain zero that is a lie?
AZJon- you're a new astroturfer, welcome and I look forward to laughing at your absurd statements.
Astroturfer bla spits this up:
"You guy's are now officially hypocrites and racists. You hate him because he's a black Democrat! Please just don't kill him. Let him live and you can have the country. Please!"
Hmmm. We think b.hussein is an empty suited, done nothing, teleprompter sucking halfwit. So that makes us racist. Nice.
You "guy's" are officially hypocrites- first, get a refund from whichever school you are attending. Second, hypocrites in what way?
Duck, bob, wave shiny objects, clap your hands, do whatever you can to distract people, obamadrones- the simple facts are these:
1. community organizer, notable for disappearing massive amounts of federal funds, and effecting no change.
2. Illinois state senator- "present votes", nothing else.
3. US Senator- Introduced no legislation that was voted on, none passed.
Zero accomplishment, unless taking government money is an accomplishment.
No Executive experience.
No business being president.
No business being county commissioner for that matter.
You lose, drones.
Empty suit, blowing.
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arch writes: Tuesday, September, 09, 2008 10:02 PM
Mumon
Mumon writes: Tuesday, September, 09, 2008 7:21 PM
What about McCain's pro-child molesting
commercial?
It's all over the air, now where the repugnant campaign is accusing Obama of something bad because Obama supported education for kindergartners to be wary of child molesters.
IOW, McCain's pro-child molester, and Palin, of course, is anti-special needs children.
Arch says.
Mumon writes: Tuesday, September, 09, 2008 7:21 PM
What about McCain's pro-child molesting
commercial?
It's all over the air, now where the repugnant campaign is accusing Obama of something bad because Obama supported education for kindergartners to be wary of child molesters.
IOW, McCain's pro-child molester, and Palin, of course, is anti-special needs children.of Evangelical Outpost. You cannot get away with your panic stricken outbursts here. Your man Obammy has just called Palin a pig! There is no Joe Carter here to entertain your misery. I suggest you go back to that blog and demean yourself over there.
Arch says:
Now how did that happen? |
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bufoboreas writes: Tuesday, September, 09, 2008 10:02 PM
News at eleven!
Oh no . . . Obama called sara a pig! Why? why? All is lost now? How could he betray us like that? He has been rather low key about Sara until now. And to call her of all people a pig. She isn't even fat. She lost most of that weight from her recent pregnancy. It is just (wait . . .breathe breathe ) too much! That was just so mean. I guess he isn't fit to be president afterall. Sara is not a pig! I for one am outraged. We should make bumper stickers that say "Sara is so not a pig!" I still can't believe it. But there it is on video. "Sara is a big, fat pig . . . and a stinky, fishy pig too?" Oh my! Oh dear! Love Bufo.
Arch says.
Bufo. Contain yourself. I am getting horney!!! |
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The only thing I see changing are the poll numbers....
Cheer up red menace....look what they did to the REAL Messiah....! |
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Mumon writes: Tuesday, September, 09, 2008 7:21 PM
What about McCain's pro-child molesting
commercial?
It's all over the air, now where the repugnant campaign is accusing Obama of something bad because Obama supported education for kindergartners to be wary of child molesters.
IOW, McCain's pro-child molester, and Palin, of course, is anti-special needs children.
Arch says.
Mumon writes: Tuesday, September, 09, 2008 7:21 PM
What about McCain's pro-child molesting
commercial?
It's all over the air, now where the repugnant campaign is accusing Obama of something bad because Obama supported education for kindergartners to be wary of child molesters.
IOW, McCain's pro-child molester, and Palin, of course, is anti-special needs children.of Evangelical Outpost. You cannot get away with your panic stricken outbursts here. Your man Obammy has just called Palin a pig! There is no Joe Carter here to entertain your misery. I suggest you go back to that blog and demean yourself over there. |
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I'll bet Palin's speech was written by Karl Rove, or his gopher, Steve Schmidt. Prove me wrong.
Are we sick of them, or what. |
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LADIES LET SEND TUBES OF LIPSTICK TO THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN MANAGERS LETTING HIM KNOW WHO WE THINK THE PIG IS!!! I LOVE THE COLOR OF PALIN PASSION PINK. GO BABY GO!!! AND REMEMBER -0- 0-0-0-0-0-EXPERIENCE FOR OBAMA. WELOCOME TO THE WHITE HOUSE MS. PALIN YOU'VE GOT MY VOTE AND MY FAVORITE LIPSTICK COLOR. |
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This is the best way that he can express himself? Pathetic. My take is that the cloistered elitist was trying to sound folksy, and not being used to it...blew it. That's the BEST spin he can put on this.
Women voters heard what they heard. And he can't get away with the timeless "What did I say?" used by the clueless.
Obama just lost a bunch of voters that he desperately needed. Not smart. An unforced error. |
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They can't talk about issues remember, its about personalities. |
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Of course it's known, and it won't make a bit of difference...but you're changing the subject.
Your man Obama has made this election about HIM. That was a strategic miscalculation.
You mention Rove et al, but that theme is getting no traction whereas it might have if the Obama campaign had steered a different course. However, the indentity politics Obama has thrived on has shown another side....Palin.
Teddy White would love to write a book about this election if he could. |
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is deafening...
Hugh you have become a joke. IT IS AN EXPRESSION! One that's been used for a Looooooooong time. He wasn't calling her a pig. McCain has used the exact same reference and applied it to Hillary. What a joke. |
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I don't know how any rational person could think he called Palin a pig. Obama is a gaffe machine who can't put a complete sentence together without a Tele-Prompter but the McCain team should be talking about how they are going create jobs, how they are going to stimulate foreign investment instead of just selling debt to our enemies and how we are going to become energy independent. Neither campaign talks about this - i think because none of them understand basic economics (except the republicans know you don't raise taxes in a recession). The republicans sound thin skinned when they complain about this stuff. Do you think Putin will be afraid to deal with someone who can't handle being verbally insulted? |
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Now the whole Obama/Biden campaign has gone into la-la land. Time for a rest Obama. In the meantime Palin the moosehunter will be loading up for some payback with righteous indignation on the side. I still don't think Obama would be this stupid to deliberately say this. But, if he was using the method of saying something in such a way that he could make the implication but then insist he did not mean that... well, that is being too clever for your own good. But you gotta wonder... if he was making fun of her nickname, Barracuda, when he spoke of a dead fish is still a dead fish or whatever that was. His pause between the lines, (as if to let something subtle/subliminal sink in), is similar to his bird finger scratch for Hillary (see the video) and he did do the face scratch with the pig line. |
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Where is the link to the alleged quote from McCain. All you gave us is a link to a back-pedaling spin site.
Barak's handlers shouldn't let him out without a script, or at least a nanny. |
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Palin's reference was between a Hockey Mom and a Pit Bull and the difference was lipstick on the HOCKEY MOM (not the Pit Bull). So, Dudley, when BHO uses lipstick and pig together after Palin has been out pounding Obiden repeatedly using lipstick at the convention and in her stump speeches, please pray tell what exactly was BHO referring to if not Palin? Do you honestly think any contrived excuse from the campaign matters if many, if not most, people perceive this to be a Macaca moment for BHO? |
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I think the "old fish" reference that followed this lipstick comment was referencing John McCain. OLD fish. Most of the media is not catching this. That reference is what leads me to believe the lipstick and fish reference IS referring to Palin and McCain... despite the denials of the Obama Implosion machine. |
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down the tubes--- the UTubes!
1) Open Mouth
2) Insert Foot
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"Obama poked fun of McCain and Palin's new "change" mantra.
"You can put lipstick on a pig," he said as the crowd cheered. "It's still a pig."
"You can wrap an old fish in a piece of paper called change. It's still gonna stink."
"We've had enough of the same old thing."
The above high skrool taunts and flipping off Hilliray Clinton? That IS the same old thing you twerp!! This is the best "The One" can do in bringing "change" to American politics? What a pathetic juvenile the Dem POTUS candidate is turning out to be. Bill must have removed all the breakables from Chez Clinton by now - that weren't already broken. |
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The joke here is Palin-McCain, thinking they represent change. Look who's running the campaign: Steve Schmidt, Karl Rove, Bush people. You think that won't be known? |
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So much for the female vote! |
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you're smarter than that (I hope)...a joke works or it doesn't.
As I said earlier, one can either tell the joke or keep their mouth shut. EVERY GUY IN THE WORLD knows this when it comes to a joke about a woman...timing, content and delivery is everything. Screw it up and you face the consequences.
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But see where the insults, mockery, and sarcasm came from (see, Palin's speech). You rightwing folks now think you'll win?
Think again. |
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If I were McCain, or Palin, I'd show some forbearance here. I'd hate to see them play the game of the left, parsing and picking every bit of idiom for insult. Be gracious, say no one can be held to account for every turn of phrase over a long, tiring campaign. It would hold them in better stead with voters than piling on him would. |
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Barack (the magical horse of Mohammad, supposedly, flew him from Mecca to Jerusalem), will
neigh:
I MENT........
Of course will do the horsy cha cha!
By the way have you watched the Austrian Lipizzaners?
Pigs in the muslim religion is real insult.
If you recall, Obama, Gave Hillary the FINGER!
As Hillary said "Shame on YOU, Obama!" |
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You think you're a pitbull with lipstick, seems to me you are AFT*
*Asking For Trouble (especially if a political opponent can use the quote correctly).. |
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I'm sure pigs of the "Nitally Lions" of Penn State are quite upset at Obama's slam against them. Then again, "his Muslim faith" has been a real hindrance to him and the "pigs" he has to deal with first with Hillary in the Democrat Party and now with Sarah Palin in the Republican Party. As you know, Muslims don't think very highly of their women, and Barack has just shown all of us what he thinks of women. Women of the "Nitally Lions" rise up and let your voices be heard. |
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No Dudley, this will have some legs.
An appropriate riposte would have been "lipstick on a pit bull" not "lipstick on a pig".
It will be yet another "potatoe" moment, or worse. |
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What does everyone think of the possibilities of BO throwing Biden under the bus and begging Hillary to go for VP? This is all the talk on HillaryClintonForum.com. What would the fallout be on this? Would he do it? Would she accept?
BTW, just heard Biden's gaffe about asking a congressman in a wheel chair to stand up and receive the applause of the people at the campaign rally. How embarrassing is that?! |
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