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Wednesday, March 05, 2008
On Like Donkey Kong
Posted by: Mary Katharine Ham at 8:35 PM
I'm on O'Reilly as usual tonight, talking about the 'Nets.

We're covering the "darkened" picture of Obama controversy. Here's the original Daily Kos entry accusing the Hillary campaign of darkening Obama's face in an ad as some sort of racist plot to make him appear blacker and, therefore, presumably more "threatening."

Here's the original footage of Obama the ad used, from the debate in question.

Here's Hillary's ad, which we'll all concede does make him darker.

But, as Allah notes, he's mostly greyer and washed out, not real menacing. It's also a negative ad, in which all the frames are a little greyer and foreboding than they would normally be, not just the clip of Obama.

The Clinton campaign first claimed that the ad was darkened as part of a "saturation-desaturation" process, and:
Asked for comment, Clinton campaign spokesman Jay Carson said, "this is a bogus assertion. Ads look different based on software, screens, computers, television, etc."
Little Green Footballs supports that assertion with a technical explanation.

Later, they claimed the ad is not Hillary's, which seems very silly given that it's available on her web site and on her YouTube site.
He said on Fox News that he had spoken with the campaigns chief ad-maker, Mandy Grunwald, who emphatically denied the ad on DailyKos was theirs.

"We don't know what is up there, but it is not our ad," Mr Carson said.

So, anyway, my feeling was that this was another raaaaacist creation of the lefty blogs, ala the drums in the back of that Corker radio ad in Tennessee in '06, but what's with Hillary's campaign saying two different things about the ad? It seems reasonable to assume the difference in color is due to technology and the natural tendency to make a negative ad darker, but the response from the Hillary campaign is weird.

The whole thing's just a preview of the race-baiting wonderland we're headed into if Obama's the Democratic nominee. Listen, some things need to be called out. I think the superfluous middle-name usage, for instance, is designed to send a message and should be cut out. I understand that some things are out of bounds, but liberals have been demagoguing race for so long, they can't tell the difference between real racism and coded messages that are just figments of their fevered, guilty imaginations (or, deliberate fabrications of their cynical imaginations, even).

Let us not forget, either, that the Democratic Party has been accused, with some credibility, of darkening ads of Republican Bobby Jindal in 2003 to make him less palatable to Northern Louisia voters. And, even Mr. Post-Racial himself is not wholly without blame.

So, let's play careful with the raaaaaacism accusations. It just seems to me, in this case, team Hillary would have much more to lose than to gain by darkening Obama by a few shades.

Oh, and we're talking about Huffington Post having nasty comments on it.










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hr writes: Friday, March, 07, 2008 10:54 PM
Hillary
On March 5th I wrote: "It would not bother me at all if Hillary got cancer" just to see how long it would take to remove it. Well, it's still there. So much for monitoring boards.


MCLIJazz writes: Friday, March, 07, 2008 2:17 PM
More on "Factor" e-mails
For a while last night, I thought about typing out what the e-mails directed at MKH said, but I decided not to because I'd stoop to troll levels by doing that.
big mama writes: Friday, March, 07, 2008 12:52 AM
popupz
and they don't bombard me with pop-ups. fiscal conservative my billoreilly
big mama writes: Friday, March, 07, 2008 12:50 AM
Bill and hateful comments
Do you think that if you can't get rid of hateful comments when you only have 13, Kos can be responsible for thousands? Check out your second comment, Hillary and cancer, and it's been there for hours. Be a strong woman and tell Bill his reasoning is ridiculous, you know it's impossible to stop hateful people from saying hateful things. Sort of like Bill.
Also, to post of Kos or Huffington Post, you don't have to give out your home address and phone number. All the right wing smear merchants, and sorry your site does too, require all that. That's because they are without intellectual reasoning skills and are afraid of real debate.
You are on the wrong side Katherine, come to the light.
MCLIJazz writes: Thursday, March, 06, 2008 9:41 PM
"Factor" e-mails tonight directed at MKH
A couple of e-mails read at the end of tonight's "O'Reilly Factor" were directed at MKH. I don't remember what they said because company was over when I was watching, but I remember they disagreed with her. Watch the segment again at 11:56 Eastern and you'll see what they said.
MCLIJazz writes: Thursday, March, 06, 2008 4:10 PM
Did I call it or what?
My prediction about the anti-BOR comments following mine was right.
There's a *big* difference between calling someone a Nazi and saying their site uses similar hate and propaganda tactics *as* the Nazis. *He was not flat-out calling them Nazis.*
Nathaniel writes: Thursday, March, 06, 2008 6:11 AM
O'Reilly has gone too far
MKH, I have really enjoyed seeing you on O'Reilly's show lately. I'm kind of on the fence about the Obama thing... it doesn't seem out of the realm of possibility that they would use a color scheme that didn't favor him, but I don't necessarily they were going directly for a racist play.

I am disappointed in Bill for this Nazi/KKK thing. I'm sorry, but him making comments like that literally makes me sick in my stomach. It reminds me of when Ann Coulter does something like comparing Massachusetts to North Korea, it's such an insult to people who actually suffer(ed) under those conditions.

And, O'Reilly will never back off of a comment he's made. Mary, as much as I love you going on the show and I know you've made a bit of a stand on the issue, I think it would be very courageous of you to take even more of a stand or even not go on his show until he apologizes. I don't know, I just found some of what he has been saying lately incredibly offensive.

And, he's constantly saying that the Huffington Post is a propaganda site. Granted, I don't go there and it probably is, some of what O'Reilly has been saying is nothing more than propaganda itself, fueling the fire of the right that would get angry at something like this and run with it.

Nathaniel
Missouri
John Konop writes: Thursday, March, 06, 2008 5:56 AM
Hillary wins Ohio by playing race card?

Will the Democratic Party split by race and age?

MSNBC-……It’s also interesting to note that in Ohio, 1-in-5 Democratic voters said race was an important factor in making their decision. In that group, 8-in-10 voted for Hillary Clinton…….

As for voters by age, Obama is getting two-thirds of young voters (ages 18-29), as well as the majority (54%) of those ages 30 to 44. Hillary Clinton is getting the over-45 group and taking an overwhelming number of the seniors (ages 65+ she gets 7-out-of-10). That is one of the largest margins for Clinton we have seen this entire primary season.


Hillary: ‘SPADE WORK’ (clinton racist code words)

WATCH VIDEO

http://controlcongress.com/uncategorized/hillary-wins-ohio- by-playing-race-card
Pete writes: Thursday, March, 06, 2008 5:44 AM
Bill has become a BORE
I have written the show a few times lately asking what the heck has happened to what was once a pretty good show.

Not sure if he has become obsessed with not letting his guests actually answer questions or voice there views but I have actually emailed some people that have gone on there and they commented back " unlike his show" stating that in one of the guests cases that his show has become really bad since 2002. I dont remember him basically using all the time on the show to express his views and ask questions that last 5 minutes and then give the guest 20 seconds and que music and hard break.

between the stupid body language, so called interviews with dead movie stars like elvis, Im just waiting for tarot card reading for the last ten minutes of his show.

what is really funny is when he says people are afraid and hiding under there desks. Id be more afraid of getting bite by a ant then going on Oriellys show hell he would spout off for ten minutes and just give a one sentence response and let him go on and on again.

I like what he does with childrens protection laws and a few other things but he has mainly become a blow hard and a hack interviewer sadly.

His show has been taken off my autorecord , I catch it when I can or if I know laura ingram is hosting.

Peter O
North Idaho
mhu cao writes: Thursday, March, 06, 2008 4:55 AM
What total and absolute malarkey ...
The Daily Kos is mental Metamucil (no offense to Metamucil).

I'll bet their editors look reallllly closely at newsprint and see Official Instructions From Lord Mothra, too. They sure don't exhibit common sense.

Darkness? DARKNESS? Any chronic channel surfer like me knows that the same live shot looks different for each of the networks/outlets. Differences exist for video/film, and for subsequent editing and reprocessing of any video.

There is so much processing, balancing, filtering, equalizing, and other fun things that go on when a video image is processed, it's amazing that the same video segment appears similar in two different presentations.

The Daily Kos and Obamabots ought to try an experiment with all analog processes and see how things change. That is, if they can spell a-n-a-l-o-g.
Mike writes: Thursday, March, 06, 2008 4:33 AM
O'Reilly
O'Reilly doesn't seem to get that comments don't represent what the thoughts of the site. Perhaps Huffington Post doesn't have as great of moderation, but that doesn't make her a Nazi. That's just ridiculous.
steveegg writes: Wednesday, March, 05, 2008 10:37 PM
Can't speak to the technical end
However, I can comment on the attempted denial of the ad by the Clinton camp. It goes straight to her and her camp's inability to take ultimate responsibility (side note; that and my perhaps-naiive faith in the populace to reject those that don't take responsibility is why I'm on the Spring Hill freight train).
Paddy O'Furniture writes: Wednesday, March, 05, 2008 9:36 PM
hr
She has it....it's name is Bill.
MCLIJazz writes: Wednesday, March, 05, 2008 9:16 PM
My grade of tonight's segment
I'm a premium member at BillOReilly.com and one of the perks is grading "The O'Reilly Factor" segments each night. I gave MKH's segment a B. I'm sorry. Not even BOR re-explaining his comparison from last week to MK got her to see things his way. I'm sure they'll be a rehash of the same anti-BOR comments following mine that say everything from "Bill's a dinosaur when it comes to the internet" to "O'Really's/Bill O's/O'Bloviator's/etc. the modern day Joe Pyne/cable news version of Howard Stern/etc." to "How dare he not let you speak, MK" to...well, you get the idea.
But I won't stop you from saying all that. So, comment away. Have fun. As a BOR fan, I'll try not to take it too personally.
True Patriot writes: Wednesday, March, 05, 2008 9:04 PM
My Favorite
Mary,

You are my favorite guest on "The Factor". In regards to the Obama picture I think some stories are just not newsworthy. I wish that people would just focus on the real problems that this country faces. I like to think that we have better days ahead. This country needs a serious positive moral boost. I believe that will help the economy more than anything else.

True Patriot.

My website.

http://www.theredteebox.com
hr writes: Wednesday, March, 05, 2008 9:03 PM
Hillary
It would not bother me at all if Hillary got cancer
ScarletPimpernel writes: Wednesday, March, 05, 2008 8:50 PM
i'm gonna file a complaint
against Huckabee's camp for making John McCain seem whiter and older than he is.

What?


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