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Sunday, October 12, 2008
McCain-Palin Playing To Win In PA
Posted by: Hugh Hewitt at 7:33 AM
Does last week's volatility in the financial markets foreshadow next week's volatility in the political markets?  Gambling on subprime loans led the nation and the world to last week's financial destruction.  Will the prospect of an enormous gamble on an unknown and untested, hard left Chicago-machine pol with an Ayers-Rezko-Wright-ACORN resume and backed by a Pelosi-Reid Congress trigger a massive sell-off in Obama futures?

Politico.com reports on the battle for Pennsylvania.
  McCain-Palin is focused on the Keystone State as the battleground in the final three weeks, and on a growth agenda that will contrast with the "shared misery" of Obama-Pelsoi-Reid.

The financial panic helped Obama establish a lead and he and Joe Biden are doing everything they can to project inevitability (and getting a lot of help from their MSM friends in doing so, right down to the "hate-speech-at-McCain-rallies" stories).

But as the shock of market losses wears off, the American public is asking how to repair the damage, and they know from example after example that the statist model being proposed by Obama-Pelosi-Reid not only doesn't work, it deepens all economic woes.  The Dems anti-trade stand and their addiction to non-strategic spending guarantees at best a very weak return to growth.  The massive tax hikes promised by Obama will kill any prospect of vigorous growth for the foreseeable future.

Every vote for every Dem is a vote for a prolonged recession and ruinous fiscal and trade policies.  Last week's stampede in the markets created a stampede in the polling as well, but three weeks is a very long time for people to consider their economic and security futures, and all the battleground states are either tied or low single digit leads for Obama.  

Here's where McCain's relentlessness and experience of last year and the early primaries pays off.  He knows --and Obama's team knows-- that this is an environment in which a massive shift can occur.  The message is two fold: Voters can't trust Obama, and they need Reaganesque policies.

We can skip the Carter years 2.0.  We don't have to have four years of failed experiments in redistributing wealth and sharing out pain that ends up with everyone poorer, much more unemployment, and a terribly weakened national defense.  

McCain-Palin are stumping in the land of the bitter, gun-clinging God loving Steeler and Eagles fans.  It will be wonderful irony if the people Obama insulted at a cocktail party in San Francisco turn out to be the ones who kept their heads and turned the tide for John McCain.
 

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Sarah writes: Wednesday, October, 15, 2008 5:04 PM
from the AP
WASHINGTON - The Republican National Committee is halting presidential ads in Wisconsin and Maine, turning much of its attention to usually Republican states where GOP nominee John McCain shows signs of faltering.


The party's independent ad operation is doubling its budget to about $10 million and focusing on crucial states such as Colorado, Missouri, Indiana and Virginia where Democrat Barack Obama has established a foothold, according to a Republican strategist familiar with presidential ad placements.

Florida and North Carolina have also been in the RNC ad mix. Pennsylvania is the only Democratic leaning swing state apparently left in the party's ad campaign.

The shift in advertising resources suggests that the RNC has decided to focus on defending reliably Republican-voting states against Obama's onslaught of advertising. Flush with money, Obama is outspending the joint efforts of the Republican Party and the McCain campaign by more than 2-1.

While a pullout from Wisconsin is a significant strategic move, it does not represent a full GOP retreat from the state. McCain's campaign has notified Wisconsin stations that it planned to continue to buy air time through Oct. 26.
NeoConScum writes: Monday, October, 13, 2008 9:31 PM
Cotton & Magua...Ebony, Our Very Own
Special NEW Serial Kosroid Poster is, judging from the HH threads she's busy polluting, nearly as vapid and smarmy as the late never lamented Brob and so many, many tiresome others. Do these crackpots ever read more than thir instant messaging from Bunky, do'ya suppose?

Naw, didn't think so.
Magua writes: Monday, October, 13, 2008 5:55 PM
Ebony - Hateful? Nah
You people are the Godless, hateful people or a reasonable facsimile thereof.

We are not the lemmings that you leftists are. We respect the system of a representative republic. It is you and your peeps that seek to pervert it with Acorn and other groups; attempting to fraudulently manipulate the elections because your candidates are weak, and cannot be truthful about what they believe.

Jesus said the truth will make you free! Belee that!
Screwtape writes: Monday, October, 13, 2008 2:43 PM
cottoneyed
I thought Farrakhan though that HE was the messiah? Damn, I am so confused. Who should I be bowing down to? Farrakhan who is waiting for the Mother Ship or Obama who thinks all whites are evil and can't be true Christians?
Dan writes: Monday, October, 13, 2008 2:26 PM
Cloward-Piven strategy
Is it related to Dingle-Norwood?
cottoneyed writes: Monday, October, 13, 2008 2:19 PM
Hotrod,
Go to the American Thinker, a James Simpson commentary, from, i believe Sept. 28, 2008. This Cloward-Piven strategy, explains a lot.
cottoneyed writes: Monday, October, 13, 2008 2:15 PM
"Ebony, ebony, ebony,
silly girl, no one here believes "the Bible supplants the constitution", no no, it is you, "Ebony" who believes that obambi and the left, supplants the constitution. That's where the "supplanting" is taking place, "Ebony". Liberty is the left's greatest enemy. Leftists attempt to stifle dissent and they wouldn't know the constitution from Mad magazine. So go on back to MSNBC, and that great American patriot and constitutional scholar, Keith Olbernutter. Because when you post here, "Ebony", you won't get away with his stupid and vacant, talking points. I know, it's, "sad, sad, sad", right "Ebony"?
cottoneyed writes: Monday, October, 13, 2008 1:52 PM
Hey, "ebony" if we are so, "sad, sad,
sad", for not recognizing as does, Louis Farrakhan, that obambi is the "messiah", than i hope we continue to be the most "sad" people on the planet. The Cloward-Piven candidate has never been, is NOT now, and will NEVER be the "messiah". I know who the Messiah is and it ain't, B. Hussein Obama. Now don't let the door hit you on that ample back side of yours, as you return to the where the other "messiah", believing goofballs hangout. "Sad, sad, sad". That we don't buy into what you on the left are selling, "sad, sad, sad"!
cottoneyed writes: Monday, October, 13, 2008 1:37 PM
"Bugsy"
Evidently, U.S. District Judge R. Barclay Surrick, who ordered Obambi to produce a birth certificate, does not have a command of the issues of this case that you do. Because, at that same hearing, on Sept.29, 2008, he denied a motion to dismiss the case. Again, have you seen, democrat, Philip Berg's video?

But really all of this is overshadowed by obambi's direct involvement with ACORN, as their attorney in 1994's Buycks-Roberson v. Citibank Fed. Sav. Bank, a suit against redlining and in 1995, ACORN's successful attempt to greatly expand the CRA. One lender, who specialized in sub-prime loans, Countrywide, went from lending $1B in 1992 to $80B by 1999, and $600B by early, 2003. They were able to do this because ACORN was successful in lobbying for 100% financing, no credit scores, undocumented income, even if you don't report it on your tax returns. ACORN employed the Cloward-Piven strategy to perfection and obambi was right there, a more than willing participant. From organizing demonstrations, to running ACORN's, "Project vote", to legal representation in monumental cases which greatly expanded the CRA's reach, Mr. B. Obama's fingerprints are all over this mess. Having done so "well" in all his endeavors at ACORN, he now wants to bring that same "expertise" to the Oval office. Only in America! Only in America! America's greatest enemy is the American left, and the fuel that propels them, is ignorance. And there is certainly no shortage of fuel, is there!!!! It's all there, for all to see. The man running for President, has been a major player in this mess, and is the hand picked, Cloward-Piven candidate. Ignorance is his true running mate, not slow joe biden. Two, 60s radicals, Columbia Univ. professors,and Alinsky disciples, really knew their stuff. This "chaos" was planned, and has been in the making for at least, the last 42 years, it is the crowning achievement of the American left.
Ebony writes: Monday, October, 13, 2008 12:42 PM
Catholics need to mind their
own business. They have enough problems of their own--pedophile priests. No organization that allowed that to go on has any credibility in selecting a candidate.

My friend told me about this hateful site--Town Hall and esp. Hugh Hewitt's blog.

That anyone in 2008 would 'fear' a presidential candidate with Obama's background, education, intelligence...sad, sad, sad.

But your little Sarah will bring you the end of days, no? Help select SCOTUS justices who help keep those gays and minorities in their places. Maybe make abortion illegal. That's the ticket==more intolerance from idiots who think the Bible supplants the Constitution.
Magua writes: Monday, October, 13, 2008 10:57 AM
Diane
It is very effective. They did a wonderful job of producing this commercial. Also here in northeast PA A letter from Bishop Joseph F. Martino to be read aloud by priests at all Roman Catholic Masses in the Diocese of Scranton this weekend calls on the faithful to understand and remember the church’s position on abortion come Election Day. The link is below: http://www.scrantontimes.com/articles/2008/09/30/news/sc_t imes_trib.20080930.a.pg1.tt30bishop_s1.1980663_top.txt

I am growing disgusted with McCain putting the gloves back on and sent him an email removing me from the email database.

The messiah just slipped up unveiling his new plan and said they need to spread the wealth around. This speaks directly to a redistribution of wealth scheme.
Diane writes: Monday, October, 13, 2008 10:27 AM
Pat...yep!
Have you seen the catholicvote.com video?

Alas, we can't get youtube at work, and we have slower-than-molasses dial-up at home, so I haven't seen it yet. But I've heard -- from Protestants and Eastern Orthodox, no less -- that it's GRRRRREAT!
pat writes: Monday, October, 13, 2008 10:19 AM
Catholics and Independents will carry
the day for McCain in the Keystone State.

http://hickeysite.blogspot.com/2008/10/ruth-ann-dailey-of-p ittsburgh-post.html
Babinich writes: Monday, October, 13, 2008 5:53 AM
This statement is true for any despot...
'X' "seems genuine when he speaks. I disagree with the majority of what he says, but I don't doubt that he believes much of it."

The variable 'X' in this case is the Tabula Rasa.

Read John Kass...
douglas writes: Monday, October, 13, 2008 2:42 AM
and pt3
"Finally, whether it's the consumate skill of Obama's ability to dissemble, or whether it's real, Obama seems genuine when he speaks. I disagree with the majority of what he says, but I don't doubt that he believes much of it."

This should be frightening to you, not comforting. I heard someone say once that if you were weighing candidates on the two attributes of articulateness and having good judgement, this is how he'd rank his preferences for public office holders:
1. Articulate, good judgement
2. Inarticulate, good judgement
3. Inarticulate, bad judgement
4. Articulate, bad judgement

Think about it.
douglas writes: Monday, October, 13, 2008 2:42 AM
Juand pt2
"First, what is so amazing about what Palin has done? She ran a town of six thousand. She won an election in a state of six hundred thousand."

Convenient how you leave out the ousting incumbents of the same party- no small feat, virtually unheard of, in fact. Neither is an 80% approval rating.

"Jerry Springer was the mayor of a town of 2 million, and I don't want him for president either."

Yeah, but he wrote a check to a hooker. He's just an example of 'you can fool some of the people...

"Conservatives have come by their reputation for being unlawful, dishonest, corrupt and incompetent honestly."
Unlike the Dems? please.

"McCain has about a 15% chance of dying in office.."
Where did you pull this from?
An actuarial firm actually ran them through their analysis and found they both have excellent odds to make it through even two terms in office.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,428168,00.html
douglas writes: Monday, October, 13, 2008 2:41 AM
Juand...
"Second, she doesn't know anything. She hasn't traveled, she's unread, undereducated and not particularly curious about much."

So far as I know, Obama hasn't traveled much, except being dragged along by his folks, and the trip to Bali to write his book (which didn't work so well, as he missed his deadline). So, what travel does he have to indicate an interest in the world? What has he read, besides Alinsky? Nothing he says indicates a voracious reading appetite, as he talks in circles and is verbose but empty. As for undereducated, I know too many people with advanced degrees that say that having one doesn't mean anything, and therefore neither does not having one (I'm an adjunct professor at a university right now, so I have some idea of what I speak). Besides, I think his latest excuse on the Ayers issue speaks volumes about this subject: 'I didn't know he wasn't reformed when I worked with him'. Really? Didn't care to find out? Just assumed he was reformed? At least that's an admission you knew he was a terrorist at one time. That line indicates a tremendous lack of intellectual curiosity and bad judgment. Were I working closely with someone of historical significance, I'd look them up a bit, wouldn't you? In fact, I look up people I work with regardless of their historical significance. Why didn't Obama?

I think this shows the thinness of your argument against Palin, and for Obama.
Julie writes: Monday, October, 13, 2008 12:53 AM
NeoConScum
Yes, we get it. Sarah Palin represents everything about us middle class women. We are Helen Reddy, not Madonna. We are Lucille Ball, not Silly Silverman.

We are Carole King. Our lives have been a "Tapestry of rich and royal hue"...enriched by our children.

We are Mothers. Soccer Moms, Football Moms, Cheerleader Moms, Hockey Moms, Baseball Moms, what's the difference?

We love Sarah Palin because she is a strong woman who is giving everything she has for her country.

Go Sarah!

Julie writes: Monday, October, 13, 2008 12:20 AM
Briggsy, not very dignified
Indeed.

You didn't "mean" to repeat that rumor? But you did. How is it that you did something you didn't "mean" to do?

You got it right, you are not very dignified.
Briggsy writes: Monday, October, 13, 2008 12:05 AM
Julie, that wasn't rumor I started
or meant to repeat.

I always assumed that a middle-aged pregnancy was closely enough correlated to Down Syndrome that it was pointless to question Trig's parentage.

My point was simply that this business about Obama being a Kenyan Muslim is about on par with that.

Not very dignified.
NeoConScum writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 11:31 PM
Juand...In Her Deepest Sleep Sarah
is thrice the seasoned pro that Barry is. Fake accent. there ain't a fake bone in her body. You Lefty-Slicks a.)Are clueless as to REAL...b.)Can't see beyond your little insular law school windows to see what 10s of millions--especially women--GET in this Girl.

But, that's the Legal Eagle Left.
Julie writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 11:26 PM
Briggsy - you're callous
And a jerk, to even suggest that Trig is none other than Sarah Palin's baby. How dare you!
Earlrogers writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 11:00 PM
Brigsy: Rumor has it BHO, mom went
to Hawaii 4 days "after" Barack was born.

The story goes that the Kenyan Airlines would not let her board the plane to Hawaii from Kenya because she was pregnant and they had a rule which permits pregnant women from flying so they don't ever wind up giving birth on the plane. So, that might suggest that the Birth Certificate was all legally typed up, but would have been a lie and a fraudulent document if indeed it is true that he was born in Kenya.

The hospital should have a record of who the doctor who delivered Obama was, and the attending nurse's name. I'm sure Berg will look into that aspect of it as well.

The judge apparently didn't think that birth certificate was enough to prove he was born in Hawaii.





Briggsy writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 10:32 PM
What zip code are they in wise woman?

I want to see how many Obama contributors versus McCain contributors are shown in fundrace.
wise woman writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 10:21 PM
Allegheny Moon keep shinning
The Western PA folks I know will vote for McCain and see through the "talker" who is ashamed of working class citizens who fear God, cling to their Bibles, understand gun safety, guns, and stand up and salute the flag when it is passing.

They like fiesty ol John and are proud of Sarah.

Even the dyed-in-the-wool Democrats will choose John and Sarah.
Briggsy writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 9:25 PM
Wait, I know the answer:

As cheesy as those who are looking for evidence that Trig is Silo's and not Sarah's.
Briggsy writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 9:21 PM
cotton, if it is a forgery, then the
Hawaii Secretary of State can so testify.

If it isn't a forgery, then admissable evidence sufficient to overcome its presumption of authenticity can be given appropriate weight by the trial judge.

The Oahu County Clerk should have a microfilm record of the original hospital vital statistic submission.

All burden is on the petitioner bringing the challenge.

Just as Obama does not need to prove he is not a Muslim or a communist, he likewise bears no burden here.

I mean, I know you don't want him to be elected, but how cheesy are you proposing to get?
Magua writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 8:48 PM
They Keep on Coming
More political commercials with people saying we can’t afford John McBipartisan. I’ve got news for all of you who think you can’t afford him; you absolutely cannot afford to have a socialist in the White House with a bunch of Democrat/socialists in both houses of Congress. It may not manifest itself as more taxes…at least not right away. The stock market will not recover for years if ever. This will affect housing sales, construction, and everything that is contained in them, appliances, carpet, tile lumber, concrete, etc.

Since the Democrats are beholding to the radical environmentalists that have blocked any building of new refineries, nuclear power plants, access to the oil shale in Wyoming, Montana, and North Dakota even though the citizens of those states want it. Consequently, we will continue to be reliant upon the Middle East or Venezuela for oil. The messiah thinks we can replace oil with wind, solar, cow patties, etc. Try running an airliner on wind, they call them gliders.

The most merciful has vowed to raise corporate taxes which are already the highest in the industrialized world. He doesn’t understand and evidently many other people don’t either; when you tax an activity you get less of it. Raise corporate taxes and the rest of the world will benefit from additional jobs leaving the USA. We could become a third world economic power as a result of this.

Social Security will die very soon unless some drastic changes take place. Are you that want to elect the most incompetent, least qualified, person to ever run for POTUS in a very dangerous world? You need to think long and hard about the actual beliefs and start reading about his associations and understand how he got here at this point in time with as little experience as he has. It is not coincidence any more than McBipartisan is the Republican nominee. He was chosen by the media thinking the media would support him. He is a fool although still a better choice than the messiah!
GOPsaver writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 8:29 PM
cottoneyed
Where are the links to The Cloward-Piven strategy?

I will send them over to the folks at Chronwatch and see what they say in their topic of the day..
cottoneyed writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 8:25 PM
Concerning "bugsy" post linking the
live birth certificate, Philip Berg, showed in open district court that that certificate has "problems", if i were you bugsy, since your a real facts "man", go google, Philip Berg and that should get you to his video, where he explains these, "problems". If that certificate were sufficent, then the motion to dismiss would have been granted, as you know it was not. Why? Everything about obambi is a contradiction. He is a walking, talking, contradiction. He and his campaign say that he never worked for ACORN! If you believe that then i invite you to read my postings concerning, Cloward-Piven, that removes all doubt. He's every bit involved with ACORN as Wade Rathke is. In fact all the dots are now connected, you've got Ayers and Rathke, former Weathermen, Rathke goes and starts, ACORN, meanwhile Ayers, starts obambi on his way politically, obambi represents ACORN in that 1995 case which propelled them to bigger and better things. All radicals, all certainly aware of one another, all certainly familiar with the Cloward-Piven strategy, all happy with the manufactured financial meltdown, all pushing the country away from capitalism and toward socialism. I invite you or any of the leftists who frequent, HH, to dispute these contentions.
cottoneyed writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 7:59 PM
There is no doubt who is
responsible for our financial crisis. The Cloward-Piven strategy has been consistently implemented from 1970, and it has had devastating results for the country. The very people responsible for this calamity, now want to introduce socialism, as the cure, for capitalism's failure. As Cloward-Piven show, this most certainly, is the desired outcome, will the country do its part, and elect the Cloward-Piven candidate, Barack Hussein Obama.

U.S. District Judge R. Barclay Surrick, on Sept. 29,2008, denied a motion to dismiss and ordered Barack Barry Hussein Soetoro Obama, to produce a valid birth certificate. As of Oct.12, 2008, he has not done so. Why doesn't he just produce a valid birth certificate and be done with this thing. It's simple, just end this now, produce the certificate. After all, you are a natural born American, aren't cha', Barry?

I invite any to dispute my postings on the Cloward-Piven strategy.
Magua writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 7:51 PM
Hope and Change
I sure HOPE all this bravo sierra is about to CHANGE. I am so sick of these stinking commercials approved by the messiah. John McBipartisan wants 300 gazillion dollars for big business but wants to take the dog food out of your grandmother’s mouth.

Leftist listen up! The Democrats in Congress don’t have the business acumen of a tick. They institute tax policy that they know panders to the stone lazy in our country; the ones who want something for nothing to the detriment of the middle class.

Keep chasing business out of the United States to China and elsewhere. Americans are among the most productive in the world. At face value that should cause companies to rethink leaving the United States …right? No, because of current and past Democrat tax policy offsets whatever gains are realized by our increased productivity. Our corporate income tax is the highest in the industrialized world. Even Communist China understands this as their tax rate is currently half of ours. The ignorant think when taxes on corporations are low the companies are spending it on some big party. The reality is that corporations use tax reductions to expand their businesses via reinvestment. This means bigger facilities, more inventory, and JOBS. If they are public companies, they are compelled to maximize earnings and use good business judgment to maximize profit.

People say the Democrats have such good intentions. Bull Shlt, I don’t buy it! I think they are sinister people not seeking to enhance people’s personal growth but to create a perpetual underclass, generation after generation. The root of all these problems can be eliminated with education. Who has nearly complete charge of the education apparatchik in the United States and has for decades? Why do the Democrats oppose school vouchers? One has to believe that these people are either as insidious as I suggest or they are continually wrong about everything. In either case why keep reelecting them?
cottoneyed writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 7:25 PM
The Cloward-Piven strategy, continued...
As a New York Post article describes it: A 1995 strengthening of the Community Reinvestment Act required banks to find ways to provide mortgages to their poorer communities. It also let COMMUNITY ACTIVISTS intervene at yearly bank reviews, shaking the banks down for larger pots of money. The Fannie Mae Foundation, working with COMMUNITY ACTIVISTS and following the most flexible underwriting criteria permitted, 100% financing, no credit scores, undocumented income, even if you don't report it on your tax returns, that lenders $1B commitment to low income loans in 1992 had grown to $80B by 1999 and $600B by early 2003!! Before this whole mess came down, a democrat sponsored bill on the table would have created an "Affordable Housing Trust Fund", granting ACORN access to approximately $500M in Fannie and Freddy revenues with little or NO oversight. And unbelievably, on the brink of national disaster, democrats wanted ACORN, to receive 20% of the bailout money!!!! This entire fiasco represents perhaps the pinnacle of ACORN's efforts to advance the CLOWARD-PIVEN STRATEGY and is a stark demonstration of the power they wield in Washington.


More to come......................
Jerry writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 7:10 PM
Hope springs eternal them
Pennsylvania Hills. Call me Eyore...but the historical comparisons of past elections need to be thrown out. A financial blow out of this magnitude and complete implosion of confidence have swung the irrationality meters off the charts. People are behaving irrationally with respect to the markets and like wise with this election. C'mom Al Fraken winning the Minnesota Senate seat? What is it with those folks up there? Normal times (whatever that is) McCain eeks out a victory because of the poor candidacy of Obama.
cottoneyed writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 7:01 PM
The Cloward-Piven strategy, continued...
The mortgage crisis began in 1977, with the Community Reinvestment Act(CRA) being signed into law, by Carter. The act, forced banks to make loans to low income, high risk customers. PHD economist, and former Texas Senator, Phil Gramm called it, "a vast extortion scheme against the nation's banks.

In the 1980s, groups like ACORN began pushing charges of "redlining", discriminating against minorities in mortgage lending. In 1989, sympathetic members of congress got the home mortgage Disclosure Act amended to force banks to collect racial data, this allowed various studies to be ginned up to validate the original accusation. That would be "RACISM". It found that minority applications were rejected more frequently, but it was not because of "RACISM", it was because they tend to have weaker finances.

ACORN showed its true colors again in 1991, by taking over the House Banking Committee room for two days to scale back the CRA. OBAMA represented ACORN in the Buycks-Roberrson v. Citibank Fed. Savings Bank, 1994 suit against redlining. Most significant of all, ACORN was the driving force behind a 1995 regulatory revision pushed through by the Clinton Admin. that greatly expanded the CRA and laid the groundwork for the Fannie and Freddy borne financial crisis we now confront. BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA was the attorney representing ACORN in this effort. With this new authority, ACORN used its subsidiary, ACORN housing, to promote sub-prime loans more aggressively.


More to come......................
Juandimensional writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 7:00 PM
Neo

Neocon writes:
"Juand...Palin IS The One Worth Voting."

I agree that McCain is old and tired, but why Palin? All things being equal, wouldn't you rather have an educated governor from a more populous state with greater national and international experience?

The thing that bugs me about conservative reaction to Palin is that instead of it being, "She's the best we've got." its,"She's the best thing ever!" It just doesn't make sense.
She seems so patently fake in her speeches and interviews... she fakes that Minnuhsodan' accent and those "Yups" and "Youbetcha"s and you conservatives all spin around on your heads like you just picked six on the lotto.

She is a local politician raised to this incredibly prominent position through the judgment of a man who'd met her twice, and who freely admits he tends to make quick and ill-informed judgments he then has to make do with. Sheesh!
Windy City Gardener writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 6:56 PM
Polls
McCain/Palin should know better than to listen to the press and pollsters. Negative ads work. People say they don't like them but they listen. It has only been about 4 days and already Obama has dropped 4 points in the gallup poll.
Slam Obama hard. There is plenty of dirt.
Briggsy writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 6:51 PM
Robert, is this certificate enough?

It states to be prima facie evidence of the birth to which it certifies:

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn227/Polarik/BO_Birth_C ertificate.jpg
Juandimensional writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 6:34 PM
Hotrod
Hotrod writes:

"Juandimensional,
Funny how you tards from the DNC Homepage do not even know Palin was a Govenor."

Hotrod. Funny how an enlightened, intelligent individual such as yourself didn't notice that I mentioned Palin's perfomance in the gubernatorial debates.

Gubernatorial means - relating to a governor's administration or election to office. So - "gubernatorial election" or "gubernatorial debate."

I mention it only because you might have thought it was just a funny made-up word the crazy Republicans who don't like Palin use.
cottoneyed writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 6:27 PM
The Cloward-Piven strategy, continued...
By advocating massive, no holes barred voter registration campaigns, they seek democrat administrations in Washington that would re-distribute the nations wealth and lead to a totalitarian socialist state.

The radical left's offensive to promote illegal immigration is Cloward-Piven on steroids. ACORN is at the forefront of this movement as well, and was a leading organization among a broad coalition of radical groups, including Soros' Open Society Institute, the Service Employees International Union(ACORN's founder Wade Rathke also runs a SEIU chapter), and others, that became the Coalition for Comprehensive Immigration Reform. CCIR fortunately failed to gain passage for the 2007 illegal immigration bill, but it's goals have not changed.

Obama aided ACORN as their lead attorney in a successful suit he brought against the Illinois state government to implement the Motor Voter law there. The law had been resisted by Republican governor Jim Edgars, who feared the law was an opening to widespread voter fraud. Motor voter fraud has created an opportunity for illegals, even terrorists, to register and vote. According to the Wall Street Journal, the Justice Dept. found that 8 of the 19, 9/11 hijackers were registered to vote!!

More to come.......................
Kristine writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 6:26 PM
Socialist reponse
Hotrod, yep. I think you made your point very nicely.
CDubber writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 6:13 PM
hotrod
"We did not pick McCain. The Media did that for us in the primary."

Well, there's no question the MSM was pushing McCain like their lives depended on it. But ultimately it was the nutty "Mormons are Da Debil!" wing of the Evangelical base (who were well-represented here on Hugh's blog comments board) who upset Romney by choosing Hickabee in Iowa, which completely changed the primary race. No Hickabee in Iowa = no McCain in New Hampshire.

In today's political climate, I have no idea how Romney would have fared against Obama, but he certainly would have offered 10x the firepower on "change" and the economy (the two issues keeping Obama on top) than McCain (who has no credibility on either issue).

I hope the Mormon-hating faction of the Evangelicals are happy with Obama in the White House (you can be *sure* the MSM will be). Far-left radical agenda, pro-choice Supreme Court justices, socialization of our system.

But hey, at least he ain't Mormon, right?
Kristine writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 6:13 PM
Conservative response refuted
Magua,

But we all understand that the democrats are never wrong--never make a misstep and they never punish their own. They are endowed with perfect wisdom in all things. They are their to save our sorry selves.

Either that or they are unable to admit wrongdoing and they don't have to now that they feel they are about to win an election and gain yet more power. All they have to do is delay.

Apparently, there is no one to check them or constrain them. We did have Republicans or Conservatives at one time. But now we have cowering republicans and people who stay too long in Congress and have become over-ripe.

It is a den of asps in there, sad to say, with most of the American electorate yelling for one side or the other because that drowns out the voices of reason and common sense which the American electorate needs now. Now we have to be better than our elected representatives in order to save our selves--Democrat and Republican alike.

The hero-worship of people no better than our selves has got to stop.

GOPsaver writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 6:03 PM
A Socialist Responce
A Socialist Obama Voter response
The Democrat Socialist party sold its soul to the highest bidders and, in doing so, abandoned its respect for Middle America. This year we will no longer believe the false promises that the DNC is good for the country. After crashing an entire world economy to win an election, why would we?

Herbert Hoover, Nacy Palousy, Harry Ried, Obama, Frank and Dodd have one thing in common. They all awoke the voters to the understanding that the Poor can destroy the economy when they are unchecked by socialist Democrat oversight. ACORN and Ayers didn't bring the world economy to the brink of collapse. The DNC winning the 06 election cycle did that. It's time for change, not modification. McCain was a good soldier for America and the GOP but his policies and supporters will represent the new direction that Americans desperately need just as soon as the RNC regains control of the Congress and Senate..
cottoneyed writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 5:59 PM
The Cloward-Piven strategy, continued...
ACORN, the new tip of the Cloward-Piven spear...

In 1970, one of George Wiley's proteges, Wade Rathke, like Bill Ayers, a member of the radical Students for a Democratic Society(SDS), was sent to found the Arkansas Community Organizations for Reform Now. While NWRO had made a good start, it alone couldn't accomplish the Cloward-Piven goals. Rathke's group broadened the offensive to include a wide array of low income "rights". Shortly thereafter they changed "Arkansas" to "Association of" and ACORN went, nationwide. Today, it is involved in a wide array of activities, including housing, voting rights, illegal immigration and moderate income people with over 400,000 member families organized into more than 1200 neighborhood chapters in 110 cities across the country. It is prehaps the largest radical group in the U.S. and has been cited for widespread criminal activity on many fronts.

ACORN's voting rights tactics follow the Cloward-Piven strategy:
1. Register as many democrats as possible, legal or otherwise and help them vote, multiples times if possible.
2. Overwhelm the system with fraudulent registrations using multiple entries of the same name, names of deceased, random names from the phone book, even contrived names.
3. Make the system difficult to police by lobbying for minimal identification standards.

ACORN has been accused of voter fraud in virtually every election since their founding. That fraud swung the election for one state governor. This election cycle, ACORN and project vote have pulled out all the stops, and they are under investigation in 13 states, for voter fraud. This voter fraud, could very well be the difference in the Presidential election.


More to come....................
Magua writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 5:53 PM
A Conservative's response - My A_S
With an attitude like this you are no conservative. You honestly think you can trust the Democrats. How the hell many Republicans are at the root of the sub-prime mess. Don’t you think if there were a Republican they could hang something on, they would have.

According to the Bureau of Labor and Statistics wages have been rising since 2000 and productivity has improved. Unemployment has risen in the last few months. Unfortunately, this is tied to the economy in general and the sub-prime issue in particular. Construction jobs have fallen of tremendously as a result of the housing inventory problems directly related to the the sub-prime mortgage problem. If you look at the graph regarding unemployment claims, the rate started to creep up in the first quarter of 2007. The Democrats took over the House and the Senate in January 2007. Coincidence, I think not. You cannot treat business with disdain and think you can tax and tax and regulate and continue to believe that these people are going to just roll over and take it.

You’re right ACORN and Bill Ayers didn’t cause the problem we have currently, the Democrats in Congress with their buddies at Freddie and Fannie, Chris Dodd, Barney Frank, Franklin Raines, Jamie Gorelick, and Jim Johnson all intimately involved financially and culpable in the failing of these two GSEs.
Kristine writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 5:50 PM
Why should anyone vote Republican
Jess,

Bush did disappoint us in many ways. The verdict is out on why he pushed Paulson's bailout as the only solution to a crisis that started in the Democratic party (won't go into the whole story here). The dems love to Bush bash, but that is because he is an easy and convenient target. He didn't turn out to be what we wanted in a conservative president--namely conservative.

The only reason, if there is one, to vote for a Republican, is that there is a hope though slim they will revert to their supposed belief, that people can regulate their own affairs if left to their own devices and that too much government interference and meddling will turn us into a nation of people dependent on the government and forced to heel to their tyranny. Oh my God I don't want that.

Kristine writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 5:39 PM
The state of the Republican Party
DaCoach,

Yes. I also perceive that there is a definite split between the Wall Street republicans and Main Street Republicans. McCain is a Wall Street republican by virtue of his being in the Congress so long or acting like one by supporting a bail out, open border, etc.. Bush is a Wall Street or 'Global' Republican. This split is real and cannot be covered up. Main St. Republicans believe in honor, honesty, fairness, and in pulling our own weight. We don't rip off or abuse others. Some Wall St. republicans apprently do and so do the wealth redistribution dems. That is how I see it. Many of us who are not necessarily republican but are conservative are being taken for a ride by the republican party. So we don't have proper representation in this election and it is just to bad for us. We just have to face the fact that we are screwed in '08.

But the philosphical split had to come. It just took a long time to recognize it. Maybe we can re-group and come back strong as Main St. Republicans and push out of office the types that have weakened us by compromising too much with the dems.

According to Dan, McCain is better than voting for a third party. What do you think?
Robert writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 5:30 PM
fbear
McCain provided all documents to show he complied with the law to be POTUS. There was even a court case on this issue.

Why is Obama, and now the DNC trying to stonewall in a court of law to show he complies with the law to be POTUS? why not just provide the documents?

If Obama can't prove he complies with the law to be POTUS in a court of law he can't run for president. It's that simple.

If Obama and the DNC continue to stonewall, the case will go to the supreme court. If Obama wins the election, the first thing the Republicans will do is contest the election saying Obama doesn't comply, and McCain will take the White House. I don't really want that to happen, please tell your candidate to give up the documents, and this issue will pass.


Jess writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 5:29 PM
one honest question...
begs an honest answer...


After the last eight years, why does a Republican deserve to be elected president?


(I've been asking around and most answers are always pointed towards the opposition party (Obama) and not offering reasons why a Republican deserves be elected into office).

So again:

After the last eight years, why does a Republican deserve to be elected president?

cottoneyed writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 5:20 PM
The Cloward-Piven strategy, continued...
Compassion gone mad, The movements impact on New York City was jolting: welfare caseloads, already climbing 12% a year in the early 60s, rose by 50% during Lindsay's first two years; spending doubled, the city had 150,000 welfare cases in 1960, a decade later it had 1.5M! This vast expansion of welfare that came because of the NWRO's Cloward-Piven tactics sent the city into bankruptcy in 1975. Rudy Giuliani cited Cloward and Piven by name as being responsible for "an effort at economic sabotage". He also credited Cloward-Piven with changing the cultural attitude toward welfare from that of a temporary expedient to a lifetime entitlement, an attitude whiuch in and of itself has caused perhaps the greatest damage of all.

Cloward and Piven looked at this strategy as a goldmine of opportunity. Within the newly organized groups, each offensive would find an ample pool of foot soldiers recruits willing to advance it's radical agenda at little or no pay, and expand its base of reliable voters, legal or otherwise. The radicals' threatening tactics also would accrue an intimidating reputation, providing a wealth of opportunity for extorting monetary and other concessions from the target organizations. In the meantime, successful offensives would create an ever increasing drag on society. As they gleefully observed, "this kind of mass influence is cumulative because benefits are continuous. Once eligibility for basic food and rent is established, the drain on local resources persists indefinitely". Just drive through any major city in the country and observe the many blighted neighborhoods, or read of the astronomical crime, drug addiction, and out of wedlock birth rates, or consider the failed schools, strapped police and fire resources, remember Cloward-Piven's thrill that "the drain on local resources persists indefinitely".


More to come.............
DaCoach writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 5:17 PM
A Conservative's response
The Republican party sold its soul to the highest bidders and, in doing so, abandoned its respect for Middle America. This year we will no longer believe the false promises that the GOP is good for the country.

Herbert Hoover and George Bush have one thing in common. They both awoke the voters to the understanding that the rich can destroy the economy when they are unchecked by diligent regulation. ACORN and Ayers didn't bring the world economy to the brink of collapse. Bush and the Republican party did. It's time for change, not modification. McCain was a good soldier for America and the GOP but his policies and supporters will not represent the new direction that Americans desperately need.
hunterson writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 5:01 PM
fbear
What 'rule' about different states are you referring to?
TIA,
cottoneyed writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 4:38 PM
The Cloward-Piven strategy, continued...
In their NATION article, they were specific about the kind of "crisis" they were trying to create: "By crisis, we mean a publicly visible disruption in some institutional sphere. Crisis can occur spontaneously or as the intended result of tactics of demonstration and protest which either generate institutional disruption or bring unrecognized disruption to public attention.

The strategy always shares the following features:
1. The offensive organizes previously unorganized groups eligible for government benefits but not currently receiving all they can.
2. The offensive seeks to identify new beneficiaries and/or create new benefits.
3. The overarching aim is always to impose new stresses on target systems, with the ultimate goal of forcing their collapse.

Capitalizing on the racial unrest of the 1960s, Cloward and Piven saw the welfare system as their first target. They enlisted radical black activist, George Wiley, who created the Nation Welfare Reform Organization(NWRO)to implement the strategy. Wiley hired militant foot soldiers to storm welfare offices around the country, violently demanding their "right's". According to a City Journal article by Sol Stern, welfare rolls increased from 4.3M to 10.8M by the mid-70s as a result, and in New York City, where the strategy had been particularly successful, "one person was on the welfare rolls, for every two working in the city's private economy.

More to come........................
cottoneyed writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 4:11 PM
The Cloward-Piven strategy
It was first elucidated in the May 2, 1966 issue of The Nation magazine by a pair of radical socialist Columbia University professors, Richard Cloward and Francis Piven. It is the strategy of forcing political change through orchestrated crisis. It seeks to hasten the fall of capitalism by overloading the government bureaucracy with a flood of impossible demands, thus pushing society into crisis and economic collapse.

Cloward and Piven were inspired by radical organizer, Saul Alinsky. "Make the enemy live up to their own book of rules", Alinsky wrote in his 1989 book, Rules for radicals. When pressed to honor every word of every law and statute, every Judeo-Christian moral tenet, and every implicit promise of the liberal social contract, human agencies inevitably fall short. The system's failure to "live up' to its rule book can then be used to discredit it altogether, and to replace the capitalist "rule book" with a socialist one.

Their strategy to create political, financial, and social chaos that would result in revolution blended Alinsky's concepts with their more aggressive efforts at bring about a change in the U.S. government. To achieve their revolutionary change, Cloward and Piven sought to use a cadre of aggressive organizers assisted by friendly news media to force a re-distribution of the nations wealth.

More to come........................
fbear writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 4:08 PM
Barack Obama's father...
was a STUDENT, not a "foreign official".

Funny, the right didn't complain about their ticket violating the rule about President and VP being from the same state in 2000 an 2004.
Jess writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 4:01 PM
the REAL reason Obama is not ahead...
by double digits...

Because of people like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6U54xJFEOzk


Kristine writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 3:57 PM
Fight
Given that nobody but obama gets a free ride from a pompous, know-it-all, biased media, I have to grant him some admiration just for having to put up with that.

McCain does seem to be a rather high maintenance candidate, requiring others to do his fighting for him. He said at the convention, "fight with me". I guess he meant, fight for me.

I think that this lack of "fight" means he is a compromised individual or he has just been in the Washington bubble too long to be effective or understand the base and other voters. This is coming across as not fighting hard enough. He seems to think whoever gets elected, it does not much matter.

Clearly he is conflicted. He is a maverick and at the same time status quo. He flatters his colleagues, such as Teddy Kennedy and then wants us to believe the republican brand is better than the democratic brand, he rants about earmarks, but votes for spending taxpayer money in a bailout that I think was wrong in the way it has been handled. That is noble about the earmarks, but it is like comparing apples to oranges in light of current events. He needs to move on from that. There are bigger fish to fry now.


Earlrogers writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 3:53 PM
I see your point Briggsy, but
IF Obama WAS born in Kenya, it doesn't matter if his mother WAS an American Citizen. He would have to have born in the United States to be a Citizen.

Now clearly,In the case Of Mc Cain and Romney, there father's were both enlisted in the United States Military so that it what qualified them for Citizenship. No such deal with Barack. And if he is NOT a Citizen, he should go, period!
NeoConScum writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 3:48 PM
Juand...Palin IS The One Worth Voting..
for! Looks like the windage--if any existed to battle Slick Lefty Kid--has pooped outta his sails. Sarah IS a fighter and must feel more than a bit frustrated by John's tepid stuff in the last week. My God, finger wagging at supporters for having their fire up!

Maybe she can still drag his carcass across the finish line. The Faux Congeniality of the US Senate ain't NO PLACE for a Presidential Campaign against lying, flim-flamming, ACORN enlisting Scumbags!

Seems that wimpy boy just had/has FIRE for Republicans. Then, what the Hell was the point in running Juanito? No FIRE!
Robert writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 3:47 PM
Briggsy
Watch the video:

http://www.redstate.com/diaries/redstate/2008/oct/12/wheres -obamas-proof-of-citizenship/

The issue is not over for Obama. His situation is nothing like McCain's, there are different laws.

Second, Obama's U.S. citizenship was taken away by his second father when putting Obama in a school in Indonesia.

All Obama has to do is give up the paper work. Obama and the DNC are stonewalling on this...Why?

If he is a "natural born citizen", just provide the paperwork.

Also, a life long democrat is the one who filed the court papers. Again, Obama was not vetted properly by the DNC.
Robert writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 3:42 PM
Liberal intolerance
Liberal community leaders are now trying to boycott businesses that show signs of McCain\Palin.

http://www.redstate.com/diaries/redstate/2008/oct/12/my-fav orite-oxymoron-tolerant-liberals/

I've said this many times. Historically, the far left is the birthplace of fascism.

What's next...lawsuits agains any republican that gives money to republican causes...oh, right...liberals are already doing that.

Liberals are trying to supress the rights of others, and a free people must stand up and fight for the respectful rights to disagree.

I thought Obama was supposed to "bring us together", all he's doing is letting his attack dogs limit free speech while he votes "present".

The socialists are on the move, and they bring fascism with them...as they always have done.
Briggsy writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 3:37 PM
Earlrogers, this is a dead end.

It was settled in the case of McCain, born in Panama Canal Zone, and George Romney, born in Mexico.

Even if what you hope to believe is true about Obama having been born in Kenya, he was born to an American woman traveling abroad.

Better to concentrate your efforts on questioning Obama's clearly superior intellect and temperment for the presidency.
GOPsaver writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 3:36 PM
Juandimensional
Funny how you tards from the DNC Homepage do not even know Palin was a Govenor.

It is OK. When Obama voters get their News from the Comedy Channel and MTV. We should expect a dumbed down President to be elected who is not even qualified to run a chain of Taco Bells.

Nice job by the Socialist Dem voters to elected enough people in 06 to crash an etire world economy 35 days before an election.
GOPsaver writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 3:32 PM
angel66
So you are a socialist.

I could tell by your voting for socialists.

What part of Socialism do you find so attractive? Is it the Marx part where the lazy can freeload from the hard work of others?

How much did it cost the American tax payer to buy your vote for The One? Was it a pack of smokes and a box of Bon-bons for the next episode of Jerry Springer?

Your Dad fought for Freedom and Capitalism and you turned to Communism Lite.

Bet your Dad is so proud!
Earlrogers writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 3:28 PM
Well, Is Obama an American Citizen?
I think it must be proven beyond the shadow of a doubt!

A case is pending, where a judge has issued an order for Obama to turnover his original birth certificate - which he has refused to do so far. WHY HAS HE REPEATEDLY REFUSED TO DO SO???
WHY SHOULD HE BE ALLOWED TO CONTINUE REFUSING TO DO SO?

There are family members who say he was actually born in Kenya and then his mother took him to Hawaii four days later and obtained a B.C. AFTER she got there. If that is true....he is NOT a U.S. Citizen and should be removed from his office as Senator, and forced off the Presidential ticket.

If anyone is going to be involved in government in the United States, citizenship is a must. To be President, not only must you be a citizen, but you must also be natural-born. And who is a natural-born citizen? It is a citizen at birth and
The 14th Amendment defines citizenship this way: "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside." But even this does not get specific enough. As usual, the Constitution provides the framework for the law, but it is the law that fills in the gaps.

This subject needs to be settled before he is allowed to continue his run for the Presidency, as it should be done for any person with a questionable Citizenship going in.

And this subject really needs to be resolved, especially since he has been so evasive about it as if he has something to hide.
Briggsy writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 3:24 PM
LLR, I have been putting in some
red state zip codes into fundrace to see how the campaign contributions have been going for McCain.

Mostly what I see are Obama, Obama, Obama.

There are contributions for other candidates to be sure, but none of whom are still running, or are residual entries from 2004.

And McCain is definitely shown in there too, but only sparsely.

These are in red states, mind you.

Obama, Obama, Obama.

What do you make of that?

Is there an epidemic of people contributing to a candidate they don't intend to vote for?
Dan writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 3:03 PM
To Kristine
Just to be clear: I will vote for McCain.

I'll vote for McCain because of Palin.

I'll vote for McCain because McCain is wrong. There is GREAT reason to fear an Obama presidency.

I'll vote for McCain because one is a larger number than zero. Zero is the amount of good Chuck Baldwin will do, because he can't win. Zero is the net amount of good Obama will do, because his ideas are disastrous and bankrupt. McCain will do at least SOME good, in Supreme appointments, prosecution of the war, or other things.

I just wish McCain would fight, like he told us to do. And win.
LLR writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 2:46 PM
Don't Forget
Before you go celebrating, go and take a look at 2004 polls and numbers. Don't forget all the country had Kerry winning up until election night. Guess what GW won.
Kerry was so darn mad he could have spit nails, because the polls showed him ahead and leading the race.
Don't forget that night Libs/Dems
Don't forget that Conservs and Repubs!
LLR writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 2:40 PM
Obama
The saddest thing about Obama? He is using the poor and illiterate to gain a place in the white house. He is using the same people he says he cares for, he has ACORN go out and sign up people who are so poor if you offer them 20 bucks they will take it to either feed their children or spend it on their next fix, Obama knows that feeling real well. He sends his goons out to people who can't spell their own name let alone fill out a election ballot. This is so sad, I hope Obama is proud of himself for taking advantage of the disadvantaged. Is this how he is supposed to treat Gods children? He will reap his reward for using them, and I don't mean by becoming president.
How about those gangs in the street that want an Obama Cocaine user because that is cool?
People that don't know how to vote or could care less about voting are the ones Obama has signed up.
angel66 writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 2:34 PM
Hey Hotrod:
I became a socialist while growing up on military bases when my dad was serving in Vietnam. I couldn't believe all the free handouts the soldiers were getting. So I thought, hey, why shouldn't other Americans get a Jesus-like helping hand?

You're a born fool Hotrod. Try being an American.
Earlrogers writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 2:25 PM
Age against experience










Much is made of McCain's age, but I haven't heard anyone say that his mother is 95 and still going strong. On the other hand, Obama smokes and both of his parents died at an early age.

Biden has had two brain aneurysms which could have killed him.

If they both died while in office
that would leave >>>>> Nancy Pelosi
as president.

I can't think of a better reason to vote for McCain & Palin.
Mike_ writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 2:23 PM
fbear-Is Obama an American? Unknown.

It is not proven to be so.

Immigration law that applies is not today's standard but at the time.

1) First, You assume that the photo shot is legit. Fact is, he has never released a copy for anyone to see, only a shot like you linked to.

2) Second, the 1961 data is in dispute for the same reason. Obama refuses to provide the data.

3) Third, if you assume the info you provided, he is still not an American citizen. The law that applies here is the one in place when he was born:

1. Hawaii became a state in 1959. A child born on American soil automatically gets U.S. citizenship, UNLESS the child is born to a foreign government official who is in the United States as a recognized diplomat.

2. Persons born between 12/24/52 and 11/13/86 - If one parent was a US citizen and resided in the US for at least ten years, at least five of which were after age 16, you are a citizen.

On the first point, Obama's father was a Kenyan government official. If he was in the US on a diplomat visa then OBAMA is NOT American.

Obama's mother was very young, it is not clear she meets the five year requirement.

Don't believe me, asks a legal law expert. Already done and linked here:

http://immigration-law.justanswer.com/questions/1cooa-perso n-born-august-4

If he is a citizen, then why on earth would the DNC try to stop a legal challenge by a prominent democrat?

The only stands Obama has ever taken on anything in his life are those that involves hiding his past--his birth, College, Law school, sponsors for college, Illinois senate activities, Ayers, ACORN, everything. Only a fool would continue to turn a blind eye to this fake. I, for one, am not fooled. The fact that the Democrats and media will is a measure of their deceit.
m0t0 writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 2:20 PM
Obama could KO McCain in 1 easy step
If Obama shifted his position on taxes a little, so that he would "consider" cutting taxes across the board or even cutting the capital gains tax to help stimulate the economy, then this race would be O-V-E-R. McCain has been trying a two-pronged attack against Obama - 1) he's too leftist, and 2) his taxes will cripple the economy. If Obama made that shift, it would defeat those two arguments.

Also, I think McCain is wasting his time attacking Obama. Independents aren't voting for Obama. They're voting against Bush. A generic cardboard cutout would be up in the polls right now. The only thing less popular than Bush is Congress. McCain has to attack the Democrats and gov't and ignore Obama. That's why Palin was so popular at first - she was a genuine outsider, and why she's come back down - the media painted her as another religious dum-dum, lipstick-wearing Bush clone.

anyhoo, i'm one of the last people on earth that still approve of bush. lol. i'm insane.
Juandimensional writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 2:20 PM
Hotrod pt 2
Finally, whether it's the consumate skill of Obama's ability to dissemble, or whether it's real, Obama seems genuine when he speaks. I disagree with the majority of what he says, but I don't doubt that he believes much of it. I know nothing of what Palin believes because she has not had a single genuine moment since she's been introduced to us. This vision she's presenting to you that makes you love her is fake. All you need to do is watch her Alaskan gubernatorial debates to see that she is both smarter and dumber than she has been presented by the McCain team to be.
Juandimensional writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 2:19 PM
Hotrod pt 1

First, what is so amazing about what Palin has done? She ran a town of six thousand. She won an election in a state of six hundred thousand. Jerry Springer was the mayor of a town of 2 million, and I don't want him for president either.

Second, she doesn't know anything. She hasn't traveled, she's unread, undereducated and not particularly curious about much. I don't know you Hotrod, but with the exception of the political workings of Alaska, you may be better read, better informed, better educated, more intellectually curious and better traveled than the woman you want to lead your country through these very difficult times.

Third, I judge Sarah Palin by the people who support her, and frankly, your record hasn't been so hot over the last eight years. Would she lead like George W. Bush? Is that what I should hope for and why I should give her my support? Will she respect the law like Dick Cheney or Alberto Gonzales, or run the war like Rumsfeld, or handle disasters like Michael Brown, or build the Republican party like Tom Delay? Conservatives have come by their reputation for being unlawful, dishonest, corrupt and incompetent honestly. And let's not even start with the whole sexual deviance thing.

As for Obama, I prefer McCain to him, but McCain blew it with me when he chose such an untested person as red meat to shore up your support. McCain has about a 15% chance of dying in office and I will not be party to a 15% chance that Sarah Palin is going to be the leader of the free world.

Kristine writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 2:14 PM
Oh, that race card
Hi Lonny,

It is very easy for anyone to label any criticism of Senator Obama as being racist. So that is why the democratic campaign is now playing that card. It seems plausible and so people unthinkingly buy into it and say YEAH, THOSE CONSERVATIVES ARE RACIST..THAT IS WHAT IT IS. Many of us are conservative and would be happy with a conservative black president or a moderate black president. (We would even be happy with a true conservative republican in the presidency and not what we have now.) That we find some things to object to about Senator Obama and some righteous anger does not make us racist. I Assure you, I find that Senator Obama's mixed race is a big plus. Race is NOT the issue. The democratic playbook will try to make it one. Each candidate represents supposedly some political ideals, and that one side will disagree with the other is our right in this country.

GOPsaver writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 2:10 PM
angel66
Question for angle66 and other 'Hussein Obama Socialists
When did you first become a Socialist? Was it in Government run schools?
What is your socialist Democrat dreams modeled after? Are they Hugo Chávez of Venezuela or a Fidel Alejandro Castro of Cuba fame?

Which one of these two 'Hussein Obama concepts are you voting for?
Pali1 writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 2:09 PM
Obama is too liberal
It's just that simple. The media has been covering for him, but many voters remain skeptical. He can't close the deal because moderates won't vote for him.
Briggsy writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 2:08 PM
angel66, politicians are usually booed
at sporting events.

Noteworthy: Her girls are growing up tough to hear that reception from a stadium crowd!
GOPsaver writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 2:08 PM
fbear
Palin was the Govenor of a State and not just a looting Mobster in Chicago black mailing banks to make loans to people I would not lend $50.00 Bucks.

Palin returned over payments of taxes to the Citizens who paid them and cut the States budget. Gov. Arnold or any Socialist Governor has not done that.
Palin split the money made in her State with the Citizens of the State for oil revenue.
When was the last time the Government has gifted tax payers money that has been made by the State from revenue?
Palin does not loot the State for every dime the tax payers can or can not pay.
Palin and NOT The One (SICK!) was right on drilling for our own oil and building new energy plants. In the last two years. The Democrats\Socialists have made sure energy costs have broke the Blue collor work force to the point they lost their homes and the world economy crashed so they could get elected to more Government Offices. Just sick!
JonGal writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 2:04 PM
RealClear Politics Analysis
Hugh,

The RealClearPolitics (RCP) analysis you point to shows that the tossups are *ALL* former Bush Red States. By RCP's own analysis, Obama is @ 277 electoral votes (EV), without factoring any tossups in. Meaning that if McCain swept all the tossup states (in only three of these - MO, IN and WV - does he hold a lead in the polls) he would still have to pry VA back from leaning Obama.

Seriously? And remember this is RCP, arguably a site more favorably inclined to McCain than fivethirtyeight.com (O:349.4 EV McC:188.6 EV, O wins 90% of scenarios) and electoral-vote.com (O:343 EV McC: 184 EV, Ties 11 EV).

You really need to study the links you point to better. Very often they tend not to support the point you are trying to make.

Have a nice time in Hawaii. Be sure to try the poi.

angel66 writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 2:04 PM
Playing to Win by Being Boo'd
I guess all those PA hockey fans are muslimterroristsocialistmarxistssanfrancisco after they LOUDLY JEERED Palin at her hockey game appearance.

But please, keep calling all Americans traitors and terrorists and socialists. It's working wonders.

Wonder what Hugh's next non-published book will be:

"Sarah Palin: Back In Alaska and Loving It"

"The GOP Today: How We Always Win"

"Obama and Ayers: Please Listen. Please God. Ayers. Ayers!"
Mike_ writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 2:02 PM
Obamantion
"They big a knife, you bring a gun,"…Barak Obama. Just words? Not when you find the truth.

The truth...the leftists can’t handle the truth.

Truth on Obama/ACORN.

http://herethereandbackagain.blogtownhall.com/2008/10/11/ob ama_and_acorn.thtml

Truth on the financial meltdown.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RZVw3no2A4

Truth on who is the Racist.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RZVw3no2A4

Truth on Terrorism/Ayers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxoiZdBSi-g

Truth on Obama/Marxist.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1P_P8lBCsE

By the way, you should feel no comfort in that you think everyone is on your side. Germans felt the same in the thirties when the Nazis came into power. Change we can believe in? I think not. He is change that will destroy our country, not his. After all, he won’t say the pledge, doesn’t believe in a flag, and hates America. Power in his hands and those of his ilk is the definition of tyranny.
GOPsaver writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 2:00 PM
Need more? OK Then!
þ Workers were required to sign a pledge card to support Obama if they wanted time off to participate in the caucus.
þ Workers at one casino were offered a lavish lunch and permitted to attend and register to vote only if they agree to support Obama.

The complaints summarized above represent only a small sample of the complaints received by the Committee. With respect to each of these complaints and many more, the Committee has the names and phone numbers of those reporting these incidents and the specific precinct numbers where the incidents occurred. Upon request the Committee will share these with the Party with appropriate safeguards to protect these individuals from reprisal. On the whole, these reports show a troubling effort by the Obama campaign and its allies and supporters to advance their own campaign at the expense of the right of all Nevada Democrats to participate in the democratic process in a free, fair and open manner.

Senator Clinton and the Committee are wholly committed to ensuring that every eligible voter has his or her vote cast and counted. There is no place in the American electoral process for the types of voter suppression, intimidation and harassment systematically engaged in by the Obama campaign, its allies and supporters.

GOPsaver writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 1:58 PM
Voter Suppression and Intimidation

The Committee received a substantial number of disturbing reports from voters that they had been subject to harassment, intimidation or efforts to prevent them from voting. Some of the most egregious of these complaints are described below:

þ Voters at at-large caucus sites were informed that those sites were for Obama supporters only.

þ Clinton supporters at at-large caucus sites were told that their managers would be watching them while they caucused.

þ Workers were informed that their supervisors kept lists of Clinton and Obama supporters, and were told that they could not caucus unless their name was on the list of Obama supporters.

þ Many Clinton supporters were threatened with employment termination or other discipline if they caucused for Senator Clinton.

GOPsaver writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 1:57 PM
fbear
That so called Birth Certificate is a fake as proven by a democrat Attorney.
Here is the link.
See it a wheep.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/10/this_could_be_the_ga me_changer.html

This guy is toast when he can no longer stall this issue in the courts.
GOPsaver writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 1:55 PM
Obama Chicago style politics
þ Obama supporters wrongly informed Clinton supporters that they were not allowed to participate in the caucus if their names were not on the voter rolls. However, Obama supporters whose names did not appear on the voter rolls were permitted to register at the caucus site.

þ Obama supporters falsely informed Clinton supporters that no registration forms were available for them to register to vote at the caucus site.

þ Obama supporters wrongly told Clinton supporters who were attempting to caucus at the wrong precinct that they could not caucus at that site, while simultaneously permitting Obama supporters at the wrong precinct to participate.

þ Obama supporters were allowed to move to the front of the registration and sign-in line.

fbear writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 1:54 PM
Hotrod
Tell me, what exactly HAS Sarah Palin done?

No, she didn't cancel the "Bridge to Nowhere", and she supported it until CONGRESS canceled it. She was for it before she was against it.

The pipeline that she keeps bragging about is not yet built. In the computer industry that's called "vaporware".

She's fired people because they didn't carry out her personal vendettas. Nice.
Juandimensional writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 1:53 PM
Robert

Is this really what it's come to. "He's not an American?" This is exactly like crazy (on this subject) Andrew Sullivan demanding medical records about the birth of Trig Palin.
fbear writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 1:52 PM
Barack Obama's Birth Certificate
http://www.politifact.com/media/img/graphics/birthCertObama .jpg

Of course, the more the right resorts to smearing Obama, without giving people a reason to vote FOR McCain, the better Obama does and the worse McCain does, so keep up the good work, THers.
GOPsaver writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 1:50 PM
History lessons with Obama
It is said that, during the Nuremberg trials, Nazi war criminals used the following defenses: (1) “It didn’t happen,” (2) “I wasn’t there” and (3) “besides, I was only following orders.” Given the onslaught of indictments and guilty pleas of ACORN personnel for voter registration fraud, Barack Obama’s handlers and enablers cannot argue that it didn’t happen. Barack Obama’s “Fight the Smears” page says he never organized with ACORN (i.e. he claims he wasn’t there), which has been exposed as an outright falsehood. Now that his own campaign has been implicated directly with highly credible allegations of election fraud, he can’t even argue that he was just following orders.

GOPsaver writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 1:48 PM
BREAKING: Obama Campaign Implicated DIRE
BREAKING: Obama Campaign Implicated DIRECTLY in Election Fraud
Allegations are no longer confined to ACORN

There is no place in the American electoral process for the types of voter suppression, intimidation and harassment systematically engaged in by the Obama campaign, its allies and supporters.
Sincerely,

Lyn Utrecht, Counsel, Hillary Clinton for President

http://grizzlygroundswell.com/2008/10/12/breaking-obama-cam paign-implicated-directly-in-election-fraud/
GOPsaver writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 1:47 PM
Juandimensional
So Palin is not qualied and Obama is?

Are you smoking Rock? Look at what Palin has done vs. McCain, Biden or Obama and she is the most qualified out of all to be the President.

Where do you clowns think of this stuff? Do you get help or is this an all by your self dillusion?
Robert writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 1:43 PM
Obama natural born citizen?
Why is Obama not releasing documents that show he is a "natural born citizen"? Why is Obama not releasing health records which would help to show he is a natural born citizen? Why is the DNC helping in this cover up?

Watch the video:

http://www.redstate.com/diaries/redstate/2008/oct/12/wheres -obamas-proof-of-citizenship/

Philip Berg is a life long democrat who can argue cases in front of the supreme court, and he wants Obama to produce documents that show he is a natural born citizen in a court of law. Why is Obama stonewalling the court case?

John McCain was asked to produce documents, and a Judge ruled he was a "natural born" based on legal definitions. Obama should be held to the same standard.

The DNC nor the MSM have not properly vetted Obama.
Mike_ writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 1:41 PM
Truth Does NOT Equal OBAMA
"They big a knife, you bring a gun,"…Barak Obama. Just words? Not when you find the truth.

The truth...the leftists can’t handle the truth.

Truth on Obama/ACORN.

http://herethereandbackagain.blogtownhall.com/2008/10/11/ob ama_and_acorn.thtml

Truth on the financial meltdown.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RZVw3no2A4

Truth on who is the Racist.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RZVw3no2A4

Truth on Terrorism/Ayers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxoiZdBSi-g

Truth on Obama/Marxist.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1P_P8lBCsE

By the way, you should feel no comfort in that you think everyone is on your side. Germans felt the same in the thirties when the Nazis came into power. Change we can believe in? I think not. He is change that will destroy our country, not his. After all, he won’t say the pledge, doesn’t believe in a flag, and hates America. Power in his hands and those of his ilk is the definition of tyranny.
Juandimensional writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 1:39 PM
K.G.

We had an engaging and civil discussion yesterday, so take this in that spirit.

I was ready to vote for McCain until Sarah Palin. Now I'll vote for a third party, because I beieve that should John McCain die in office, Sarah Palin, with her inexperience and aggressive ignorance will lead us down an even more miserable path than George Bush has, and that Barack Obama will perform better than she will.

I've been a Republican (but not a conservative) since 1996. I have been deeply ashamed of the Bush administration since 2004, and the gild was off the lilly even before then. Until the conservative wing of the Republican party gets rid of its virulent strain of know-nothingism, and anti-intellectualism as perfectly expressed by Sarah Palin, we will be deservedly a wilderness party.

I cannot get my head around how people want to be lead by a woman who, while certainly bright, is untraveled,undistinguished, uncurious, unprepared and undeserving of leading this country in the objectively difficult times we live in.

Further, conservatives, with their defense of the crook Tom Delay, the proudly unlawful Dick Cheney, the wildly incompetent George Bush and his equally incompetent appointees, Donald Rumsfeld, Alberto Gonzales, Michael Brown etc. have lost any claim to being the "adults in charge." Truly, could you imagine any democratic administration exploding our, domestic spending, budget deficits, and national debt, like this conservative administration has? It's like a nightmare. The conservatives have been so dishonest and inept and unlawful that you have doomed yourselves and the rest of us non-conservative Republicans to the status of Jimmy Carter, but without the public perception of inept decency he enjoys.

I have a closed mind about Sarah Palin, but I'd be interested in hearing someone state clearly why they would willingly desire to be lead by her. I would dearly like to understand that.

Sherry writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 1:28 PM
Lonny, come back to reality
The world does not revolve around your siblings, inlaws and buddies. Have you ever taken a trip outside of Philly. Pack a lunch,take a drive, look around, there are others not like you. Diversity comes in all forms. Good Luck!

Joe writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 1:12 PM
Racism in the Election
Please see my blog in townhall.com, titled, "Will the Real Racist Stand Up." This stealth aspect has been largely ignored, given just modest attention in recent days. I do not think a black racist, Socialist, whose wife is a vile black racist can be President of my United States.
carlos writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 1:10 PM
How Ironic is it
that if you read through the s190 legislation, McCain literally warned us and was blocked. And yet he gets the blame. Google it yourself.
The winds of fairness have gotta change.
Pali1 writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 1:07 PM
Both campaigns think PA is in play
McCain and Obama are both in PA this weekend and are spending heavily on ads. Obama got blown out by Hillary in the PA primary and knows he has work to do there. Either the campaigns or the polls are wrong about how close PA is.
GOPsaver writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 12:30 PM
Just another Socialist
DAMNING video here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vJcVgJhNaU

If you like what ACORN stands for, you're going to LOVE an Ubama Presidency.

Heartland Democratic Presidential Forum 12/07 (forum exclusively for thousands of community organizers including Gamaliel and ACORN people) Ubama said ACORN and friends, responsible for voting fraud and the sub-prime crisis, are going to be shaping policy for an his presidency.
Pasadena Phil writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 12:28 PM
It's all over
Anyone notice how more and more of the noseholders are already resorting to the last gasp hope of losers? "The only poll that counts is at the ballot box." Or variations thereof.
Kristine writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 12:24 PM
Hugh's blindspot
Hotrod's anger is at the boiling point like mine and Dan articulates exactly how I feel. Thank you!

Hugh, you are dreaming. You put too much faith in those near death elder milksops known as republicans in the Senate. Hugh, it isn't all about money and markets. It is about losing our democracy because of sham politics. It is about being lied to and it is about being made to pay for the mistakes of corrupt politicians.

The trust issue many of us have is with McCain. We KNOW that he will do something horrible the minute he is elected. So how could we go vote for him and keep a clear consience.

Can't be done. As a decline-to-state voter I will either not vote, or go for the third party. McCain instills as much fear in me as the thought of an Obama-Pelosi-Reid dictatorship. As the fear is equal at both results, there is no motivation to support McCain. As a decline-to-state voter i could not vote for a candidate, but McCain would not have been my choice. Right now it is all about lousy choices. We've got bad and worse. I might as well be choosing if I would rather be struck in the head with a baseball or a hammer or would I rather consume a rotten banana or a rotten apple. The answer is neither, thank you.
GOPsaver writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 12:20 PM
CDubber
We did not pick McCain. The Media did that for us in the primary.
McCain was the Maveric who would reform politics in America. The Media told those saps in Iowa that McCain was a guy ALL Americans would vote for.

Just like the Media alone beat Hillary over the head everyday. No matter who should win, the Media get their guy.
The Media gave us G.Bush over Steve Forbes? Dole over Jack Kemp! They thought Reagan was a TARD and that is how he made it in office.
On the other side we have Dumbocrates voting for National Office holders who get their news from 20 minutes a night on the Comedy Channel or MTV.
CDubber writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 12:08 PM
My friends...
...we need *change* in Washington. And my 30 years *in* Washington give me the experience needed to effect this change! - John McCain (paraphrasing)

Barf.

I can't understand why this message isn't resonating with voters.

/sarcasm

Face it, GOP, we picked the oldest horse (figuratively *and* literally) in the stables to run this race for us. And in the final stretch, the old gray mare just doesn't have anything left.
Windy City Gardener writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 11:57 AM
Sarah's the one
She is the only one here with the gumption to tell the truth about Obama. McCain is an idiot. Again he listens to the wailing press. Too unfair to Marxist Obama. Read John Kass in the Chicago Tribune today. Obama has terrorist working on his campaign. Old hippies who advocated violence on the Chicago police. This is just crazy that these nuts are in positions of power in the Obama campaign.
GOPsaver writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 11:40 AM
More from Hillbuzz!
A post yesterday on pro-Hillary HillBuzz claims that a contributer spoke with someone in the Chicago court system that a team of FBI investigators in ten states are putting together a RICO case for U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald. They are claiming that alleged undocumented contributions to the Obama campaign could potentially ensnare ACORN and, well, just about every Democrat they don't like.
If everything rumored here is true, it looks like David Axelrod, Howard Dean, Donna Brazile, SoetorObama himself, and possibly even Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid were all involved, together, in massive RICO violations, and thus federal fraud, if the DNC and party leadership knew what the SoetorObama campaign and ACORN were up to and allowed it to proceed. Knowledge of federal crimes being committed makes all parties accessories to those crimes — and part of the conspiracy to defraud the public.
Patriotic Liberal writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 11:21 AM
Not gonna work this time, Hugh..
All that rabble-rousing and attempt to build the resentment of people ('Barack insulted them at a SF cocktail party') just ain't happening, chump. Have fun in the ashheap of history..
GOPsaver writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 11:21 AM
Notice
How the Media cover Obama with close ups now?

With out a band like Springstien or a bunch of Hollywierd stars. Obamas draws are low and the Media are not showing the lack of numbers at Obama events.
GOPsaver writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 11:17 AM
Would Socialist (d) really? Part II
The Socialist DNC never thought their plan would work well enough to throw the entire world into choes.
The problem came when the world and those on Wall Street saw Obama break out in some polling and EVERY BODY with a brain wanted out of the Market before this amateur a sshat was elected as President.
Should McCain get five points ahead in the polls. The Markets will come back and that would kill the DNC plans for President. Yet they would still gain in the house and Senate because the STUPID Republicans voted to BAIL the Socialist (d) out of this Fannie and Freddie mess they created.

Even Bill Clinton and Alec Baldwin say the Democrats are to blame for the financial meltdown......so, why isn't this a huge, huge Democrat scandal right now?

GOPsaver writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 11:11 AM
Would Socialist (d) really? Part II
The Socialist DNC never thought their plan would work well enough to throw the entire world into choes.
The problem came when the world and those on Wall Street saw Obama break out in some polling and EVERY BODY with a brain wanted out of the Market before this amateur a sshat was elected as President.
Should McCain get five points ahead in the polls. The Markets will come back and that would kill the DNC plans for President. Yet they would still gain in the house and Senate because the STUPID Republicans voted to BAIL the Socialist (d) out of this Fannie and Freddie mess they created.
Even Bill Clinton and Alec Baldwin says the Democrats are to blame for the financial meltdown......so, why isn't this a huge, huge Democrat scandal right now?

GOPsaver writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 11:11 AM
Would Socialist (d) really?
What do Barack Hussein Obama and Osama Bin Laden have in common?
They both know people who have bombed our Pentagon!
In the last election cycle. What was the huge scandal? Meckah and Foley.
This is so far over what happened back in 06 it is not even funny.
Do I think the socialist (d) would crash a world economy to get power? Hell yes.
Should the Republicans be screaming this from the mountain tops? Hell yes.
Was this all done to get Obama elected? NO! This was done to win seats in the House, the Senate and TO GET HILLARY ELECTED!
This plan is from the 02 election cycle.
By not drilling for our own oil and building power plants, the stage was set to blow energy prices out of the roof tops on the consumer and blame the oil guys in the white house.
Then you add the WE would NEVER hurt the little guy because we put you in a home to live the American dream! Then they blow the doors off of the financial end of our economy 35 days before an election and poof! Election win for Hillary.
Except Obama got in there and the plan was already set to play.
Then you have these STUPID Republicans that could not bail out the socialist (d) on Capital Hill fast enough!
How stupid are these guys! They could have creamed the DNC by saying hell no! You vote for the bail out sense YOU CAUSED IT!

KG writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 11:02 AM
McCain gets my vote but..
Poor John: he still get my vote because of Sarah. He will not fight the fight. He will not use the issues so easily defined as BHO's socialist pacifist views. He will not attack. He needs his inner Dick Nixon. He needs an inner Ronaldus Magnus. He needs the bravery he had in Hanoi. BHO will be the change artist which will shatter the Judeo-Christian Western Worldview, democratic capitalistic view that has made America great. We will look like the Chad when he is done. And John is talking about reaching across the aisle while the Left lies, smears, prevaricates , laughs it up and with its willing allies , the MSM, leads the mice down the drain. Shame on America for listening to this Pied Piper, BHO.
biPOLar writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 10:42 AM
Paint by numbers
According to Real Clear Politics, all of the colors are blue. Even if McCain can turn around a 13 point deficit in Pennsylvania he is still toast.

Incidently, why did he give up on Michigan to fight in Pennsylvania?

Pennsylvania Obama +13.8
Ohio Obama +2.7
Florida Obama +3.8
Michigan Obama +7.8
Virginia Obama +6.3
N Carolina Obama +1.2
Colorado Obama +4.0
New Mexico Obama +7.3
Nevada Obama +3.0
jeramy writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 10:31 AM
Warm Welcome
Palin folksy small-town charm played REALLY well at the fliers game. You could ALMOST hear a few cheers buried beneath earth rattling "booos" she got as she walked out to center ice. I think she should continue to "play to win in PA". The McCain campaign should continue to waste their resources in an unwinnable state while we steal Virginia and North Carolina. I love it!
Ron writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 10:29 AM
McCain's card up his sleeve
Babinich:

The card up his sleeve should have an American flag embossed on it. I for one am sick of everyone talking about how "rotten" our country is.

John McCain should start tell us once again who he is, a great American patriot, and who we are, the world's greatest country. To heck with BHO, we all know who he is. Those that support him are not going to change the mind.

I suspect that those undecided voters in the "swing" states, the ones that everyone is seeking, are just as patriotic as we are in our "red states." They can tell the difference between America and European socialist idealism.

Sometimes, we Americans need to be reminded who we are. That's what made Reagan the great communicator.
Dan writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 9:47 AM
Something beats nothing every time
And that's the problem. McCain's always been about McCain. His cobbled-together, a-ideological pragmatism just doesn't beat Obama's DEAD-WRONG but defined worldview. He CAN'T come back with what we want him to, because he doesn't have it, and he hasn't the record to back the criticism on many issues. Except maybe abortion, but McCain doesn't want to make that an issue. And the war, but McCain's unwilling to defend President Bush, and only takes timid pokes at the eminently-vulnerable Obama even on that.

McCain is making this August 29 post look positively prophetic... if overly-optimistic!

http://bibchr.blogspot.com/2008/08/mccains-to-lose-with-oba messiah-to.html
rcasey writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 9:29 AM
The New America
will be a land with San Francisco values governed by Chicago politics and powered by Las Vegas casino financial system. This is the change we can believe is coming. God help us.
Kenny Z writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 9:21 AM
McCain
If McCain would stop campaigning for Obama and start pointing out that Obama is a socialist marxist as revealed in his voting record and close associations, maybe he would make some headway. He seems more intent on lauding Obama to his own detriment.
Sherry writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 9:10 AM
Thank you for the "young" lady
I appreciate the "young". You made my day. The trust issue is huge and you both know it. Lots of shaky fingers on election day. Polls are interesting. I was polled the other day by via telephone There were 14 questions. 10 about how I would feel about Obama being in office and the choices for a response clearly indicated that my results would signify that I was an Obama supporter which I am not. The last question was the clincher- How likely are you to vote for Obama? I just laughed and hung up. So please don't tell me the polls are the leading indicator.

But they make for interesting reading.
Babinich writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 9:08 AM
to Dan...
Dan says:

"...I said long ago that this election was McCain's to lose. Sadly, it looks as if he's working hard to do just that."

I am afraid I agree with you. It seems as if McCain is not wiling to fight bare knuckled.

I didn't support Mac in the primary, but I never figured he's go out quietly. Maybe there is a card up his sleeve?

What I'd give to change places with him in order to take on the Tabula Rasa in that final debate...
Babinich writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 9:04 AM
Watch the numbers young lady....
Yeah, the numbers... Like we watched the numbers in 2000.

Maybe ACORN is working their magic in the Keystone state?
Dan writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 9:03 AM
Over at my Biblical Christianity blog..
...I said long ago that this election was McCain's to lose. Sadly, it looks as if he's working hard to do just that.

A black man BEGS McCain to fight, after telling McCain how much abuse he's taking for supporting McCain. McCain hugs him... then brags about how bipartisan he is. What?!

His audiences start getting fired up... and McCain pours water on them, telling them there's nothing to fear from an Obama presidency. What?!

I beg to differ, very strongly.

Last debate was, IMHO, a sad failure to turn the race back onto track. Sure, Brokaw was pathetic, the questions (picked by him to spare Obama) were pathetic - but nothing would have stopped McCain from taking it to Obama. Palin would have. But no, McCain went through a generally spiritless, stammering, sputtering performance, while the empty suit projected assurance, calm, leadership.

I'm increasingly worried. I don't trust the polls at all - but they're not nothing.

I'm worried that McCain has started working on his memoirs, and is about to show why most of us in the Republican wing of the Republican party DID NOT want him as our candidate.
Sherry writes: Sunday, October, 12, 2008 8:47 AM
The trust issue
I believe the trust issue is the sole reason that Obama does not have a much bigger lead at this point in the game. The lingering doubt is McCain's most valuable tool. The media has done their candidate a disservice. All of them are on the verge of losing their credibility and to downplay significant issues such as Acorn fraud incites the public and we see through their thin partisan veil. The McCain voters are incredibly energized but not getting the coverage. It's out there and clearly there is significant energy in PA.
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Well I dont need more
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Good one, Pirate Rob...
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clarityseeker
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NeoConScum
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clarityseeker 11:32 AM
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FOOD STAMPS NOTHING
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Always inspiring...
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upon further consideration
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S/B, Persians.
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Adam
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Extremist True Believers...
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Jo, ever read the, "Moorish Cavalcades"?
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