Tuesday, December 16, 2008
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Obama Education Secretary For Gay High School
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Posted by:
Amanda Carpenter at
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Head of Chicago Schools Arne Duncan recommended the creation of gay high school in October 2008.
President-elect Barack Obama's nominee to become Secretary of Eduction has supported specially designated high schools for gay, lesbian and transgendered teens.
"If you look at national studies, you see gay and lesbian students with high dropout rates...Studies show they are disproportionately homeless," Duncan said at a October 2008 event where he recommended the gay school be built. "I think there is a niche there we need to fill."
As Chicago's Head of Public Schools Arne Duncan recommended the School for Social Justice Pride Campus, Chicago's first school for gay youth. Moreover, educators at this school believe it could be a model for a national program for educating gay teens.
Advocates for the school ultimately expect 600 children will attend Pride Campus, which was scheduled to open in 2010 until members of the design team called off a critical vote on it in November, over conflicts between Chicago clergy members and school planners.
Information from the school's website says:
The Social Justice High School–Pride Campus would improve on current conditions for LGBTQA youth in Chicago’s public schools and would be a national model for best practices in the education of LGBTQA youth.
We will teach the history of all people who have been oppressed and the civil rights movements that have led to social justice and queer studies...
Our school is dedicated to the principles of the hunger strike that brought the school into existence, namely social justice oriented principles and values such as truth and transparency, collective community power, struggle and sacrifice, and ownership and agency.
No reporters asked Obama or Duncan about the education administrator's support for gay education during a press conference to announce Duncan's appointment Tuesday morning.
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Dave sez:
China, India, and Singapore are emerging as superior nations because their next generation is concentrating on learning not do-goody-goody-touchy-feeley-liberal social engineering.
Well said….I think.
What is the opposite of what you wrote (i.e. what do they teach)? If you took the time to look at the school’s curriculum (which includes civics classes and examinations on constitutional content and meaning), maybe you could suggest improvements. It looks like they already removed the do-goody-goody-touchy-feeley-liberal social engineering class. I am also sure that they don’t “cane” the students in Chicago like they do in the superior nations you mentioned.
And yes, you do digress. Because you would harass and try to goad individuals into a fight with your group regardless of where you found them. Bullies do that. Because deep down, bullies think they themselves might be gay. And once you add a large measure of cowardice to the make-up of a bully, you end up with communist china. Cowards seldom go after a fair fight.
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Same old denise.
You live in a world of assumptions and misunderstandings. Not sure what conversion you are talking about but my wife would be angry if you converted me to be homosexual or being conservative. I’m sorry you see an article about a gay school in Chicago as an attempt at pushing a gay agenda on you. Didn’t you come to this website by free choice? Hope you get over it. I tolerate your positions so that we can discuss issues and maybe get some insight into the reasons a person thinks the way they do. Most of all I thought I shared one of the base conservative values. Honesty. If you look back through my posts, you will notice there is intolerance for your twisting other’s statements, your assumptions, and your interpretations of what other’s statements mean. Even after someone has clarified what their statement was supposed to mean, you act like you have heard nothing, like Brook Shields selling Volkswagen Ratans to people having babies for German vehicle engineering. I put the word “vehicle” in so you didn’t try to steer the conversation to cloning or some such.
Thanks for the spelling correction. I can see you are far ahead of me in the “person meets animal” erotic stories division. Doesn’t Ann Rice live in N.O.? Maybe she can give you some pointers.
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Obama picks Arnie Duncan,
for Education Secretary,
it Figures. |
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If a freshman wants to enroll how do they prove their gay? These are 13 and 14 year olds that we're asking to make a determination about their sexual identity. At this age it is highly inappropriate for a school to push sexuality on a young teenager. Isn't sexuality forced on our kids at younger and younger ages these days? Kids should be kids and not have to be pawns to perverted adults idea of liberal education.
I am 45 years old and in my day if we knew there was a gay school in the area we would be harrasing them and goading them into fights.
A gay high school sports team? Would fans of the opposing team be arrested for yelling "you suck"?
Would the gay team even get out of the locker room?
But I digress, a gay high school creates serious problems. The most of which is forcing sexuality on kids as young as thirteen years old.
China, India, and Singapore are emerging as superior nations because their next generation is concentrating on learning not do-goody-goody-touchy-feeley-liberal social engineering. If America wants our next generation to compete globally our education system better offer vouchers to foster competition and choice and get out of the business of being parents.
Unfortunately Obama and his clones view education as liberal indoctrination.
Asking thirteen year old boys and girls entering high school to confront their sexuality is wrong. Sexuality should not be a criteria to gain accepance into high school. Parents should be the ones to deal with their children on these matters, but our liberal educators feel it is perfectly ok to usurp parental authority at their discretion.
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If a freshman wants to enroll how do they prove their gay? These are 13 and 14 year olds that we're asking to make a determination about their sexual identity. At this age it is highly inappropriate for a school to push sexuality on a young teenager. Isn't sexuality forced on our kids at younger and younger ages these days? Kids should be kids and not have to be pawns to perverted adults idea of liberal education.
I am 45 years old and in my day if we knew there was a gay school in the area we would be harrasing them and goading them into fights.
A gay high school sports team? Would fans of the opposing team be arrested for yelling "you suck"?
Would the gay team even get out of the locker room?
But I digress, a gay high school creates serious problems. The most of which is forcing sexuality on kids as young as thirteen years old.
China, India, and Singapore are emerging as superior nations because their next generation is concentrating on learning not do-goody-goody-touchy-feeley-liberal social engineering. If America wants our next generation to compete globally our education system better offer vouchers to foster competition and choice and get out of the business of being parents.
Unfortunately Obama and his clones view education as liberal indoctrination.
Asking thirteen year old boys and girls entering high school to confront their sexuality is wrong. Sexuality should not be a criteria to gain accepance into high school. Parents should be the ones to deal with their children on these matters, but our liberal educators feel it is perfectly ok to usurp parental authority at their discretion.
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HarryJ writes:
If the "parents" of these Gay students want their kids to attend an all Gay school then they should start one and charge tuition. We wanted our son and daughter to have a Christian education so we pay for them to attend Catholic schools. The taxpayers shouldn't have to foot the bill
I love this idea. As a Christian we are highly discriminated against by everyone up to the liberal educators. We choose to send our children to private or homeschool at oour own expense bue to our beliefs. Let them start their own schools and pay like the rest of us.
I think gay schools would pool them together and make them less safe. |
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Im not sure, maybe I dont see this the same way some of you others do but personally if they make schools for gays/lesbians, then that would also mean that the other "non-gay" schools would be dominated by a heterosexual group of people. For those of us who disagree with homosexuality, why wouldnt you be okay with your heterosexual children going to a (predominately) heterosexual school? This would promote your family values and allow gay people to be safe and openly gay in their own community.. |
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many of the angles had they not already been done so here. Like sheep. I wouldn't even know where to find a a homosheepien.
So, I will leave you alone, if you do the same. |
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"Tim from Texas writes: Wednesday, December, 17, 2008 1:21 AM
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I think it is sleepy time for you. I asked you to point out comparisons I made and you went from comparisons I should have made, to the gay districts of large cities, to Sean Penn, to some other guy you have known since the 70s, to sheep, sheep with a gay school, and as a grand finale, (I couldn’t even be making this up), Lesbian sheep.
You win. I can tell when I am in the presence of a master of meandering. But in retrospect, I think I would have gone with lamas instead of sheep. When you add in the dimension of long range spitting, the disgust factor should triple."
Fantastic. Now, go back to the Daily Kooks because that is all most of us want, if you haven't notice. We won't try to convert you, if you quit trying to foist the gay agenda on us. In fact, except for a couple of religious comments made by others in this thread, I haven't notice anyone trying to convert you to heterosexuality. You want segregated by choice? Well, you have got it here because we are told we have to be tolerant and accept your positions; yet, we get nothing reciprocally. Tolerance seems to work only one way.
BTW, it is llamas.
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"a school may be...dare I say it.... SEGREGATED!!!!!
There I've said it. It is out. How dare they, create a Segregated school for gays!!"
Look, personally, you can do whatever you want, but if the school is segregated and heterosexuals are not allowed, then legally it would follow the old Plessy v. Ferguson rule. Every time something like that as happened in public schools since the 1954 Brown decision, the courts have found a way to ban it. Even we high schools used to be divided between the sexes, it was based on the actual sex of the student, not the desired one. So, all boys went to boy schools and all the girls went to girl schools.
And, was there a huge stink when the school either opened or they tried to open it? I heard about it all of the time and we discussed the legal positions involved.
"Do you think that the gay kids in this school would be indoctrinated in anal sex, and how to molest young children?
No.
Why don't you tell us, like the others, about any sick fantasies you may have about gay teenagers?
Never had one because I have never thought of being with another woman. It doesn't do the trick for me. The same would apply, if I were a man. You guys are always saying how you were born a particular way. Well, it must be the same way with many heterosexual.
Do you even know any? Any gay teenagers?
Teenagers? No. Adults? Yes, he is my paralegal.
Any other questions?
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That “article” is a blog. A blog by the same person who said pandemonium had broken out in Philadelphia on election day. An incident at one precinct.
Read the information at the school’s website. Read the information in the Chi. Trib. There is one small quoted line in that “article”. If you follow the link provided by the author, it goes to a page that I have not been able to find if you start at the campus home page.
http://www.lvlhs.org/
The banner area with the name “pride section” shows the name of all pull down items when you are in the selected section. “Pride section” is not a pull down on any of the menus.
The mission and vision statements under the pull down menu of the Social Justice High School are nothing like the statements shown in the link. If you use the mission and vision pull down on the link, you get the same statement as on the official site.
Again, if there is a way to get to the page shown in the link (other than the link), please let me know what it is.
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I think it is sleepy time for you. I asked you to point out comparisons I made and you went from comparisons I should have made, to the gay districts of large cities, to Sean Penn, to some other guy you have known since the 70s, to sheep, sheep with a gay school, and as a grand finale, (I couldn’t even be making this up), Lesbian sheep.
You win. I can tell when I am in the presence of a master of meandering. But in retrospect, I think I would have gone with lamas instead of sheep. When you add in the dimension of long range spitting, the disgust factor should triple.
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The article states, "President-elect Barack Obama's nominee to become Secretary of Eduction has supported specially designated high schools for gay, lesbian and transgendered teens."
You wrote: "Because that is all they are. Instances. To change the subject. The subject here is about a gay friendly school. Not a gay school. Not a segregated school."
Gay, lesbian and transgendered teens? Check.
The subject here is about a gay friendly school? Double Check, assuming that homosexuals never fight with one another or act like many women when they break up, like my florist, who sounds like the worst woman you have ever heard, wailing and carrying on. Not a gay school? One of three, so OK.
But, "not a segregated school?" if the school is being formed solely due to sexual orientation, then how is it not segregated even if you have Lesbians and Transgenders? It is the very definition of "segregated" school...Just like a Hispanic school with boys and girls would be segregated or whites segregated with boys and girls. |
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You didn’t site written examples. You bring up things you think are germane to the discussion. If a comparison had been made, the instances you bring up might apply. The point is that no comparison was made. So it is only your opinion that we have to acknowledge things that have nothing to do with the discussion. If you are comparing the instances and numbers and then applying them the school issue, then you are a liar. Because you said we compared them. The only statement I’ve made about the holocaust is that you did not name all the persecuted groups. Which you did not. You do know what a comparison…excuse me. That would be an assumption on my part. A comparison is 2 or more things that are examined for differences and similarities. In this instance, the only relationship that the holocaust had to this school, as far as I was concerned, was the fact it was the subject when you trivialized the number of gays killed. You tried to compare it to the number of other victims. This is all in the written record and doesn’t need to be addressed again. |
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You wrote:
"So you have a "don't confuse me with the facts, my mind is made up" mentality?"
Please. Who are you kidding?
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Dumbese, you are being stupid again. You just posted about assumptions and then you make many of your own. A lack of mention means nothing except a lack of mention. It doesn’t infer a position. Thinking that it does is an ……assumption. A statement that covers a certain set of circumstances, can’t cover all circumstances. I’m not going to write a dissertation about title ix, or the holocaust. Neither has anything to do with this other than you saying they do. I don’t have to cover every instance you can think up. Because that is all they are. Instances. To change the subject. The subject here is about a gay friendly school. Not a gay school. Not a segregated school. Not whether Anne frank would have been able to play volleyball under title ix at her school. |
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You wrote:
"Please reread all of the pertinent posts and tell me what you think makes a comparison of trials and tribulations."
How about just gays without comparing them like you are were the only group singled out in the Inquisition, the Holocaust, the African-American Civil Rights Era? I know many cities with Gay Districts that have been there for a long time (like SF, LA, Miami, NYC, and New Orleans, just to name a few). I mean Sean Penn is playing Harvey Milk in a movie, albeit a different man than his biography would lend one to believe (and No, I didn't just hear about him. I have known of him since the 1970s).
Just leave the sheep out of it as it is rather disgusting thought. Why are they of any concern? Are they getting a free gay school surrounding by only other sheep or do they go to class with the Lesbian sheep, as well?
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So you have a "don't confuse me with the facts, my mind is made up" mentality?
The fact that homosexual humans and sheep have the same differences in their brains (differences from heterosexual human and sheep brains)....
And that a gene that regulates brain development and hormones in fruit flies can be changed to change their sexual orientation....
Shows that homosexuality is innate, is natural, they really are "born that way", and do not choose which sex they are attracted to.
Also the historical, cross-cultural, and modern persecution of gays shows that their movement IS A civil rights movement.
Yet so many conservative fundamentalists continue to lie and say that being gay is a choice or that they aren't/haven't been mistreated.
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You are never going to change anyone's mind here; just like, we will never change your minds.
You are wasting your time here. Take a poll, if you wish.
When a site has "Conservative Blogging and Republican Bloggers" in the title, don't you kind of realize your not at the Daily Kooks? I have never bothered you over there, so quit making arguments about the homosexual sheep hava(ing) the same differences in the hypothalamus that homosexual humans have; Homosexuality and the amygdala; and Homosexuality and the commissure???
Do you really think anyone here gives flying fruck as to what the hypothalmus of a homo-sheepien sheep looks like? You got it. It is the same as searching the globe for homo-sheepiens.
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Nice dodge, dumbese. You have changed this into a holocaust discussion because you couldn’t make the segregation claim stick. Mike made a statement about the numbers of gays killed by the nazis. He did not compare gays to Jews (or others, especially Anne frank) or compare the severity of their struggles. I did nothing but correct your obvious misunderstanding of the printed word. No one can change their story. Everything is still written down. Please reread all of the pertinent posts and tell me what you think makes a comparison of trials and tribulations. No matter what, you can’t escape the fact that unborn, unknown, unrelated to you people mean more to you than victims, people born, all colors, all religions, all orientations, who have been persecuted and murdered. You talk numbers and miss the point. This will be a lot for your pea sized brain but again, it is about choice. I know you don’t believe in that but lucky for the rest of us, you have no say. No one has to ask you if they can go to a different school. No one has to give you reasons if they want to go to a different school. People in low performing school districts, Christians, Muslims, Jews, gays that climb on rocks, fat kids, skinny kids, even kids with chicken pox, any one of a thousand groups I have not named, or special needs people such as yourself. They can CHOOSE to go to a different school. The people of Chicago CHOSE to fund the school. No one has to go to that school. Focus. Get off the holocaust. Get into the gay school. |
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Matthew writes: Tuesday, December, 16, 2008 Matthew, 10:39 PM
But gays, gypsies, and Polish people were also killed.
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I wrote about them, and many others, at 8:46PM.
Matthew on the Holocaust
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No offense, but what about the 6+ million of Jews and few million Poles, Romanians, Russians, Catholics, Gypsies and just about everybody else that didn't fit into the Aryan definition of Supremacy?
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"For Denise
And yet it is the Conservatives, and anti-gay people like you, who want to AMEND (Change) the Constitution and ADD to it a clause that makes same sex marriages illegal. Isn't that changing the Constotution?"
What are you talking about? I have never even voted on gay marriage and, if you read a my much earlier post where I was writing about the US Constitution, you would know that I don't want to change it for anybody, incuding you or anyone else.
I live in New Orleans and know exactly where the heteroseual and homosexual districts are. Heteros don't go into the "Castro Districtite" on Bourbon Street and they don't wear fake nun outfits and protest in ours. We actualy get along because we are NOT screaming at each other and publishing Gay Is The New Black Lists.
To paraphrase the line about what happens when you "assume"... When you assume, you (DO) make an arse of yourself while you (try) to make an arse of me.
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So Denise, you think people shouldn't be able to discuss the historical persecution of gays?
Why can't people mention the fact that gays were rounded up and killed in the Holocaust too just because the Nazi's targeted Jews more?
And you don't think that people should be able to discuss the scientific evidence that shows that homosexuality is innate in both humans and animals?
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Just try and stop 'them' from indoctrinating your kid.
most parents are too busy chasing the $ to worry if bill ayers is teaching them about social justice.
any wonder where blagobamarahma is coming from? they want nothing less than your kids brain.
my children will be home schooled, i exhort you to do the same. calling all brave souls.
turn off and drop out. my children will not set foot in a public school.
it won't be easy but it will be worth it.
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"Denise, Denise
The Nazis instituted the "Final Solution" for the "Jewish Problem" in January of 1942. It is you who want to compare the Holocaust to the plight of the homosexual."
I am fully aware of the history and timing of WWI, the Vesailles Treaty and how it gave rise to Hitler the Holocaust and the Final Solution.
I WANT TO COMPARE HOMOSEXUALITY WITH THE HOLOCAUST??? You might want to go read Michael's post at 7:48 pm when he first raised the issue:
He singed-songed, "During the Holocaust- 50,000 homosexuals were rounded up and at least 10,000 were slaughtered."
So, who the fruck first raised the whole Holocaust issue? You guys did the same thing with African-Americans and their struggle for equality after Prop 8 passed. Please quit trying to equate your movement with others. If the movement is strong enough on its own, then you should not need to compare it with those of Jews and African-Americans.
Enough already. Not only are you being a fool, you are disparaging the width and depth of the struggles of Jews and Blacks. Further, enough of the comparisons of "homosexual sheep having the same differences in hypothalamus (as) that (of) homosexual humans."
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A lot of Christian parents kick their gay kids out of the house and leave them homeless.
Thats their way of showing Christ's love.
There are homeless shelters/organizations devoted soley to GLBT youth.
A lot of Christians and Muslims disown their gay relatives.
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I don't think anyone was comparing gays to Jews in the Holocaust but was just simply mentioning that tens of thousands of gays were slaughtered in the Holocaust.
Of course everyone knows that 6 million Jews were killed in the Holocaust and they were the main target.
But gays, gypsies, and Polish people were also killed.
And their lives shouldn't be forgotten either.
We must be vigilant against all the irrational prejudices-- racism, anti-semitism, and homophobia. |
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The Nazis instituted the "Final Solution" for the "Jewish Problem" in January of 1942. It is you who want to compare the Holocaust to the plight of the homosexual. The two aren't similar. Jews, Blacks, Asians, Christians and so forth have the benefit of acceptance and community at birth. How many Jewish families thrown a child out of their household upon learning that he/she was Jewish? |
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"You have to remember that before WWII homosexuals were very much in the closet. In many European countries it was a criminal offense."
And, Anne Frank hid in attic for a couple of years before being herded off with her whole family to a concentration camp for extermination in a gas chamber because SHE WAS JEWISH and THAT WAS A CRIMINAL OFFENSE. And, you can read my earlier posts as to how many Anne Franks were killed in ovens as compared to how many gays.
You, Tim and Michael need to pick better examples than comparing gays to Jews in the Holocaust. You will never win an arument on equating the two in your determination for gay school.
I'm not even Jewish, but I would never compare anyone to Jews in the Holocaust. It is kind of like the No on Prop 8 supporters in their attempt to equate their desire for gay marriage with the sufferings of African-Americans in the Civil Rights struggle. For some reason, I don't recall a Castro District in the South during the Jim Crow Era. |
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"Remember that the great enlightened leader of Iran said on his last public visit to the United Nations went on the record that there are no homosexuals in Iran? I seem to remember pictures of TWO gays hanging from a crane in some Iranian city. There may have only been 10,000 gays that were singled out for their homosexuality and sent to the gas chambers in WWII."
The "Enlightened Leader" of Iran WOULD drop a nuclear bomb on Israel and "wipe Isreal off the map" in a heartbeat, if they could get their hands on one such weapon. So, then we are back to whole 10,000 homosexuals and 6+ million Jews in the Holocaust and 2 in Iran, but 6+ million Jews in Israel now.
Shall we keep going on the statistical Tango? |
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foxmustang writes: "Swampfox....
"some gay students may need a refuge from bullying in the Chicago public school system in order to get an education".......
WHO says that ANYBODY gets an education in that sorry-a*s*s school system??????"
You are probably correct. We all know it is not so much as how much is spent on our educational system that determines how well an educational system functions, as it is the amount of parental involvement. |
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Gay teens shouldn't have to be segregated.
We should simply protect them from bullying in our public and private schools.
But many of the Christian teachers won't protect the gay students from being harassed or abused.
They feel like protecting the gay students from bullying and treating them with dignity and respect would be to "encourage the homosexual lifestyle" or to engage in the "homosexual agenda".
When schools do create a climate of tolerance for their gay students then conservative and Christian groups harass the schools.
Some Religious Right groups try to get School Boards to ban the teaching of or tolerance of gays/homosexuality even though it violates academic freedom and free inquiry and robust exchange of ideas.
Too bad a lot of gay teens attempt to kill themselves or do succeed in killing themselves because of the bullying at school or the religiously motivated bigotry they face from the family, teachers, and preachers.
There's a lot of teachers who have nearly destroyed the lives of young gay people by allowing them to be abused.
So until we can treat gay students with respect and protect them then they may need their own schools.
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"So you can’t state a statistic without all statistics associated with it? The stats you gave don’t contradict the others. And if it mattered, I could name sub-categories that you didn’t."
6+ millions Jews versus 10,000 homosexuals killed in the Holocaust. Is that a sufficient statistic for you? What "sub-group" suffered more in WWII as a result of the Holocaust? Jews or homosexuals?
"This sounds like some kind of “equal/fair time” for victims noise."
Now, you are starting to get the inanity of your argument. Why should gays be given equal/fair time for their discrimination, but no one else? ..."for victims noise" What the Hell do you think the whole argument is about, Tim? Having gays attend gay schools because they might feel harassed or get discriminated against at the regular public school even though Jews, Blacks, Muslims, Whites in Minority School do get the same treatment at many of the same schools IS all about VICTIM'S NOISE. |
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"BTW: Voucher schools have a much higher failure rate than public schools (failure as in going broke. Many fail with both the vouchers and the state funding they receive."
So, failure as in going broke is NOT OK, but schools failing in their assigned task of education and letting children get broken education, is OK?
With regard to failure rates, you might want to take a look at test scores and graduation rates between voucher and public schools.
"Because they are no better than the public schools in many instances."
If that is the case, then why do so many parents in the Washington, D.C. school district scramble to get one of the allotted district vouchers.
Lastly, it is not segregation because "it is just a choice. Courts don't always look to whether there is only a choice in deciding discrimination cases. Atheists can protest of a school campus, but, HELL NO!, if a small group of mixed race students want to borrow an empty classroom to study to Bible.
Further, if you want to examine how choice stacks up against equity in college sports. Ask the male college volleyball players how they feel when Title IX funding and other goals are applied to the women's curling team, especially at small universities? Playing both are the choice of the student atheletes, but review the rules and the results of program are the sticky-wickets...
Title IX governs the overall EQUITY of treatment and opportunity in athletics while giving "SCHOOLS" the flexibility to CHOOSE sports based on student body interest, geographic influence, budget restraints, and gender ratio. Instead, the focus is on the NECESSITY for women to have EQUAL OPPORTUNITIES as men on a whole, not on an individual basis (again on the choice of the SCHOOL GROUP, not on individual basis, which factors in choice).
The choice of the student can be made submissive to that of the school because of the need for equal opportunity and disegregation. |
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"some gay students may need a refuge from bullying in the Chicago public school system in order to get an education".......
WHO says that ANYBODY gets an education in that sorry-a*s*s school system?????? |
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Remember that the great enlightened leader of Iran said on his last public visit to the United Nations went on the record that there are no homosexuals in Iran? I seem to remember pictures of two gays hanging from a crane in some Iranian city. There may have only been 10,000 gays that were singled out for their homosexuality and sent to the gas chambers in WWII. I suppose that you would have more sympathy if the number was a couple of million more? You have to remember that before WWII homosexuals were very much in the closet. In many European countries it was a criminal offense.
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Why has this party become one of hatred? |
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What is sad is that some gay students may need a refuge from bullying in the Chicago public school system in order to get an education. |
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So you can’t state a statistic without all statistics associated with it? The stats you gave don’t contradict the others. And if it mattered, I could name sub-categories that you didn’t. This sounds like some kind of “equal/fair time” for victims noise. Your argument is like saying that a 2 month old fetus abortion isn’t as bad as a 3 month old fetus abortion. I thought you said abortions are all bad. I thought all persecution is bad. |
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"During the Holocaust- 50,000 homosexuals were rounded up and at least 10,000 were slaughtered."
No offense, but what about the 6+ million Jews and few million Poles, Romanians, Russians, Catholics, Gypsies and just about everybody else that didn't fit into the Aryan definition of Supremacy? Do they all get the publicly-funded schools? Are we all just segregated victims now?
Statistics are strange things to argue when not fully thought out. Playing such games when there are vast majorities that could be segregated and, perhaps, straddled among all of the possible beaucoup victim groups that would could seek protection is a zero-sum game for all.
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Pull your heads out, folks. It’s not segregation because no one has to do it. Straights can go if they want. Gays can go if they want. No one has to. There isn’t any bussing associated with it. Think of it as a charter school. It is just a choice. Besides, I thought you conservatives were for vouchers. Vouchers give you a choice if you don’t like the school your kids go to. This school is a choice.
BTW: Voucher schools have a much higher failure rate than public schools (failure as in going broke. Many fail with both the vouchers and the state funding they receive. Because they are no better than the public schools in many instances). Remember, no one has to go; and if you bother to read the whole batch of info about the studies and the classes, it sounds like a pretty good curriculum.
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"During the Holocaust- 50,000 homosexuals were rounded up and at least 10,000 were slaughtered."
No offense, but what about the 6+ million of Jews and few million Poles, Romanians, Russians, Catholics, Gypsies and just about everybody else that didn't fit into the Aryan definition of Supremacy?
Statistics are stange things to argue when not fully thought out.
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WHAT ABOUT ;HOMOSEXUAL AND THE BIBLE?
ITS CONDEMNED!!ITS ABNORMAL! |
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"Gays and Lesbians have faced persecution, historically and in modern times...
During the Inquisition some homosexuals were burned at the stake."
During the Inquisition SOME homosexuals and HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF CATHOLICS, MUSLIMS, JEWS and PURPORTED WITCHES were burned at the Inquisition stake from the times of Al-Andalus to Isabella and Ferdinand to Charles I of Spain.
Are homosexuals now arguing for the establishment of separate, but publicly-funded and entirely equal, Catholic, Muslim, Jewish and Wiccan public schools, too, under a reborn Plessy v. Ferguson segregation policy?
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YEAH HIS CABINET IS REALLY TAKING SHAPE!!YOU BAMIE VOTERS GOT JUST WHAT YOU DESERVE! |
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ignorant, ohhhhhhhhhhh so tolerant Amerikan sheeple can elect the first queerr president next time around. How the hell is that for change?
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Gays and Lesbians have faced persecution, historically and in modern times...
During the Inquisition some homosexuals were burned at the stake.
During colonial America, gay men were castrated and lesbian women had part of their noses removed as punishment for being homosexual.
Some Native American tribes were exterminated partly because of their acceptance of homosexuality.
During the Holocaust- 50,000 homosexuals were rounded up and at least 10,000 were slaughtered.
There was a time in American where homosexuality was considered a mental disorder (many gays were forcefully institutionalized and abused with lobotomies or electro-shock therapy), gay sex was illegal, and in 1986 the Supreme Court ruled that gays did not have a right to privacy. Police could go into gays homes and if they were in bed with their lovers they could arrest them for sodomy.
As recent as the 70s-- gay teachers could be fired just for being gay.
Even Lou Dobbs admits that most hate crimes are committed against gays and lesbians.
What about Lawrence King, a gay 8th grader that was shot in the head twice and killed by a classmate just because he was gay?
Gay kids are bullied, attacked, and ridiculed all the time in our public schools and the teachers allow it.
Many Islamic countries in the Middle East and Africa make being gay a criminal act and even exectute them.
You can use google images and see pictures of gay teenage boys hanging dead from nooses in Iran because they execute them.
In Nigeria, it is not only against the law to be gay but it is even against the law to advocate for gay rights.
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the curriculum consists of 6 hours of "Locker Room 101"....
The Butches put on the jock straps and play football while the cheerleading squad consists of all the Sissies....
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These gay schools are gay friendly schools. They aren't just for gay students.
Gay kids in our public schools tend to get bullied, attacked, raped/molested, and sometimes killed (remember 8th grader Lawrence King that was killed by a classmate just because he was gay?).
Also remember a few years ago when some teens sodomized an effeminate boy with a broom stick in one of the New York schools?
Gay males are picked on even if they don't come out because they tend to be soft and effeminate.
Lesbian teens tend to be masculine.
Not all gays and lesbians can hide their orientation.
Often times teachers and administrators allow gay teens to be bullied in school and they justify this with their religious beliefs.
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When your dumb-*ss hetero kid starts failing school because he can't stop thinking about boobs, you can always send him to an all boys school. That'll learn 'em.
But when your gay kid can't stop thinking about "St. Peter" what's a parent supposed to do? I can guarantee you one thing. They ain't gonna send 'em to Pride and Joy High! |
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I have mixed emotions about a gay high school. It certainly would be better if the students could go safely to high school along with the other teenagers. |
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The problem with the education system now is how much time and resources are spent on this kind of crap and we wonder why we can't get kids to understand the value of education. They're kids for pete sake.
This is fast becoming a nation of people with whom I have nothing in common nor do I want to have.
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the flaw in LGBT rhetoric.........
"Many people who opposed Prop 8 in CA insisted that gays and lesbians as a whole are better educated and more successful than the general population. Can someone explain how homeless high school dropouts are better educated and more successful?"
Does this mean we're no longer going to promote to management positions by way of diversity the ADDed and intellectually deficient LGBT population? I'll believe it when I see it. |
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Obamas' buddy said the following:
"If you look at national studies, you see gay and lesbian students with high dropout rates...Studies show they are disproportionately homeless," Duncan said at a October 2008 event where he recommended the gay school be built. "I think there is a niche there we need to fill."
Many people who opposed Prop 8 in CA insisted that gays and lesbians as a whole are better educated and more successful than the general population. Can someone explain how homeless high school dropouts are better educated and more successful?
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Who cares? This is considered newsworthy? Chicago is a big place, with room for lots of schools, hey even a concept called "school choice" if you don't want your kid going to a school that specializes in teaching gay kids, don't send your kid to that school. Done. All schools have to meet basic standards of curriculum, so they will be teaching all the required courses. Next? |
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I think this is a good idea. It will give kids more choice. If it is a good school, say you are gay and attend it. If it's not a good school, just stay where you are. |
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It seems to me that a separate high school for gay kids is not a good idea. There is a definite and special problem of bullying that gay kids face. But that should be fixed by better school bullying policies and enforcement.
Separating out kids by sexuality just isn't in keeping with American ideas of equality. |
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a gay high school? This is a joke, right? |
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"Can anyone explain the charter?
Our school is dedicated to the principles of the hunger strike that brought the school into existence, namely social justice oriented principles and values such as truth and transparency, collective community power, struggle and sacrifice, and ownership and agency."
Since the US Constitution stictly prohibits conferring rights or regulation not expressly conferred by the document, they cannot legistate through government-mandates or constitutional Amendments of social justice oriented principles and values such as truth and transparency, collective community power, struggle and sacrifice, and ownership and agency. These policies are not found in the document; thus, they are not constitutionally protected or mandated.
For instance, the Hiller decision by SCOTUS this Summer expressly held that the DC handgun ban was unconstitutional because it infringed upon the right to bear guns established in the 2nd Amendment even if the owner does not belong to a militia.
Where are the rights to or Amendments establishing collective community power, stuggle and all that jazz in the Constitution? They are not in there; therefore, they are not protected or mandated.
The Govt. can't ESTABLISH a religion or ban all religions because religion IS AN EXPRESS CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT. Only Libtard judge or judges can illegally and single-handedly try to overturn or expand the Constitution.
It is up to the Strict Constitutionalists to hold the SCOTUS' feet to fire and protect the documents. Everytime it is changed a little, it is weakened a lot.
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self-proclaimed same-sex sodomites is indicative of the depth of Obama's intellect. |
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What are we to do about the fat kids, the skinny kids, or other kids that don't fit in because of some type of abnormality? What about the poor kids who are embarrassed because of their clothes, or the fact that they can't have clean clothes or a bath? Are we to build individual schools because for each of these causes of drop-outs? |
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more special treatment for neurotic children and adults...........Who is this LGBT bonehead? |
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By all means, segregate homosexuals. And why stop at schools? It's time for segrated homosexual housing, grocery stores, business parks, etc. Maybe even a homosexual state.
Clearly this country is moving in the right direction.
But seriously, we are all so screwed and most don't have a clue. |
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life is tough all over. Get over yourselves. |
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Our school is dedicated to the principles of the hunger strike that brought the school into existence, namely social justice oriented principles and values such as truth and transparency, collective community power, struggle and sacrifice, and ownership and agency.
They believe in hunger strikes: they blackmailed the public officials into agreeing to the school.
Social justice oriented principles is newspeak for justice according to your group membership: straight bad, gay good; white bad, black good; male bad; female good.
Truth and transparency is newspeak for their truth: moral relativism and post-modernism at its worst.
Struggle and sacrifice comes from Marx. Nuff said.
Ownership and agency: Ownership means they will be trying to deprive us of ownership of our property. Agency is an odd choice there. I think agency is included to mean the government is the agency of ownership. Now that's scary.
I don't see any room for math, science, and reading, AND HISTORY. |
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Yeah, yeah. The crying infants on the left label anyone who disagrees with them a HATER.
Rather than actually debate an issue on its merits or facts, the sodomite crowd throws temper tantrums like spoiled brats, stamping their feet and blaming George Bush for the fact that their ice cream cones have fallen on the sidewalk. |
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What some of these folks need to think about is what are they going to do if they have gay children. I went to a boarding school. Admitting I was gay would have resulted in my immediate dismissal. Things haven't really changed all that much. Middle and high schools are a very dangerous place for gay kids.
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I see B-B-Billion$ down the bidet for state-of-the-art buildings, "qualified" teachers, all-new curriculum (sample Math story problems: "Bernie bought a d---do for $22.99 and two tubes of KY jelly at $3.95 each. How much did he spend including the 9% sales tax?" Or, Sex Ed: "Bend over, Steve," etc.)
Want to put the kabosh on this stupidity? Easy. Just make 'em think it's OUR idea! It would go like this: "Alright folks, we demand that all queers (their term) be quarantined in seperate schools so they don't mix with the normal population." Presto, the proponents of the billions that would be spent on homosexual oriented schools would spare no effort to keep them mainstreamed in government schools like they are now.
Then go do what's right. Home school your children. Stop letting the government schools interfere with our kids' education.
BTW, the National mis-Education Association will fall all over themselves to make homo schools the norm. After all, the NEA has been the biggest impediment to education in this country for the past 50 years. They love this kind of stuff. |
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"President-elect Barack Obama's nominee to become Secretary of Eduction has supported specially designated high schools for gay, lesbian and transgendered teens.
"If you look at national studies, you see gay and lesbian students with high dropout rates...Studies show they are disproportionately homeless," Duncan said at a October 2008 event where he recommended the gay school be built. "I think there is a niche there we need to fill."
As Chicago's Head of Public Schools Arne Duncan recommended the School for Social Justice Pride Campus, Chicago's first school for gay youth. Moreover, educators at this school believe it could be a model for a national program for educating gay teens."
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Only Dumbocracists could figure out how to try to overturn the 1954 ruling of Brown v. Board of Education, which held that "separate (based on race) was inherently unequal" and replace it with the "separate, but equal" holding of Plessy V. Ferguson, which was overturned in 1896.
When will the Dumbocrats let us know that we are supposed to undo "forced busing" for some and not others? Can this white women call Dumbocrats the racists that they are, now, if they are going to separate blacks straight students from white gay students or some other combination of race and sexual preference?
Both Abraham Lincoln (R) and Thurgood Marshall (D), who was the NAACP's Chief Counsel of Brown before he became the first African-American Justice appointed to the SCOTUS, are both now spinning in their graves!
What an a absolute embarassment!
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My previous two posts on this thread are meant to be over-the-top remarks. I am gay. When I went through high school I didn't dare tell anyone. I can only pray that gay teenagers don't go through the hell that I went through. |
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I would think that the fundamentalists wouldn’t want gay kids to attend the same schools that their “straight” kids attend. After all, aren’t they afraid that the gay kids will recruit the other children? You know, those impressionable kids that became the right’s center of attention in their Proposition 8 campaign The Christian right seems wed to the idea that sexual orientation is a communicable disease. Frankly, it is disgraceful that GLBT kids cannot be safe in many public schools. Parents bear the blame for bullying by passing on hatred to their offspring.
David Hart
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How about the kids that are shy? They are often bullied at school & I'm sure they don't want to show up everyday either. Or kids that are just ostracized for whatever reason. Will they have a separate school too? Will each & every "group" have a different school? How much more is America going to tolerate? How are we as adults going to reach & teach kids that in life there are going to be many different people that we all have to interact with. How do we tach them integrity & morals & teaching them the fact that we all have to get along with the other - you don't have to like each other but you do have to get along. All this will do is to teach separatism & not assimiliation. Where will it end? |
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It must be a brilliant idea if it upsets the Townhall respondents this much. |
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"Perhaps this proposed school will teach their pupils how to torment Mormons and set church fires."
Sounds like some solid suggestions for their field trips. In their arts classes, they can teach them to spray paint graffiti and make hateful signs for their "peaceful demonstrations"
Instead of having a debate team, their public speaking training could consist of standing in traffic swearing at anyone who drives by since they are all hateful and intolerant. With all the important things they could do, when will they ever find time for things like math and science?
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While i disagree that there should be such a thing as a gay high school, the people here really have foul mouths when it comes to homosecuality. As much as they claim its a chosen lifestyle, it isnt. Why would someone want to be subjected to it intentionally?
But tolerance of homosexuality needs to in the mainstream, in the schools, and with every other student. Seperating them into a school just divides people. We need to accept that homosexuals are people just like everyone else.
But in another way, we are not in a society that accepts them just yet. In 20 years all of these homophobes will be tolerant or outcast pariahs. |
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you are spot-on!
liberals just love slippery slope issues like gay schools, religious intolerance, abortion, etc...
hold fast, Conservatives, and don't give an inch! |
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Perhaps we all could have a little fun on what to name this High School? |
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IF THE HOMO SCHOOLS ARE TAXPAYER FUNDED AND BEGIN TO EXCEL ACADEMICALLY, COULD A PARENT OF A STRAIGHT STUDENT SUE THE SCHOOL FOR DISCRIMINATION?
WOULD WE THEN BUS IN STRAIGHT STUDENTS FOR INTEGRATION?
ALSO HOW WOULD THE PARENTS AND CHILDREN PROVE GAYNESS TO BE ADMITTED INTO HOMO HIGH SCHOOL?
LIFE IN A LIBERAL WORLD: GODLESS AND SPINELESS. |
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well at least the class rooms wont have many pregnant teens in them i wonder if a girl got pregnant, would they kick them out of school becuase they obviously are not gay.
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High Drop out rate also applies to blacks. Are we going to segregate them in different schools as well?
How about kids from single parent homes? They too have higher than normal drop out rates.
The only kids that need to be segregated are the disruptive kids who dumb down the good kids who want to get a good education. |
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I would suggest just let them all attend "normal high school" and be forced to wear pink triangles on there left shoulder. Subject them to enough abuse so that they just change their ways, before it is too late. |
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I have to agree with the sentiment expressed here which says that the agenda espoused by the new administration is not about educating our children it is endoctrinating them. This is an action that at its roots is a denial of free choice and independence. Our present leaders have more in common with Comrade Mao than they do with Horace Mann (an early educator). Want freedom? Teach reading, writing, math, and logical thinking. Combine a basic education with moral upbringing and there is a hope that our nation will continue to fulfill the promise that our forebearers envisioned.
leadership without honor is tyranny! |
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I'm all for it. Send every one of those who choose this lifestyle to the same place and stop burdening normal kids with their presence in the classroom. Don't use my tax dollars to fund it. It is against my religion to condone deviant lifesyles, therefore my money should not be used to perpetuate something that is clearly against my religious beliefs. What would Jesus do? |
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How about a High School for students who want to learn the basics (math, science, history, English, etc.) so they can compete in the real world? A school where they won't be forced to deal with gay issues, where disruptive students are expelled, where poor teachers are fired and not backed by the union, and liberal indoctrination is thrown out of the classrooms.
The three R's. Wow what a concept! |
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Privatize the schools! Educational Vouchers.
Give the $10,000 per pupil wasted on every publicly educated child, to all children. (Including Home Schooled).
Make attending a school a privelege not a social compulsion. Drug Dealers, Discipline Cases, and Activist Provocateurs can be expelled and banned by the school managment. (With out lawsuits) Troubled youth, get shipped off to boarding school, "civil conservation corp", with tough discipline and rudimentary education. And get out of jail free cards for good behavior after 1 year. Activist Provocateurs (the Gay High School Crowd) can find their own schools that can cater to their special needs, provided they can perform academically.
Test the progess of each student 3 times a year Pre-Test, Mid Year, and Final. Test the physical fitness of each student 3 times a year. Test the Artistic and Musical Talent 3 times a year. Disband\Fire the bottom 5% each year, of the worst teachers and schools, Big Bonus for the top 10%, Small bonus for the Next 20%. Academic Artistic, and Atheletic Awards and prizes for the top 30% of students nationally.
Change the culture of learning from Socialist Monopoly, and re-education \ social engineering complex... to Student, Teacher, and School Competition focused upon learning...., sports acheivement, arts acheivement, and academic acheivement.
If your school doesn't perform, can't keep you safe, can't keep drugs out, vote with your feet and voucher dollars and go somewhere else.
The catastrophe that is the public school systems would be 300% better in 4 years, if these policies were enacted. |
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We are indoctrinating our children to be sexual beings in school? Sex in our society has now part of our wardrobe, it is supposed to define who we are at an earlier and earlier age and the liberals are really pushing this shiite to the maximum.
Great, Johnny will learn to have safe sodomy and Joan will learn how not to cut her lips on a strategically placed "earring".
Forget reading, writing, math, etc...we need to sexualize our kids before their even emotionally ready for a committed relationship!
It's no wonder America is falling so far behind the rest of the world in terms of education. We're so concerned with feelings and emotions that we've lost our competitive edge.
Liberals have done so much to damage schools that this is just another step in the downward direction.
No wonder devout religious people such as Muslims hate us. We've lost many morals and are losing the rest of our morals fast.
Parents don't let your kids grow up to be liberals.
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Kids, especially boys, who are skinny or not muscularly endowed, also have a tough time with high school and other kids picking on them. Why don't we have a public school for them as well. What about for kids with red hair? What about kids who like to dress in Goth style clothes? We know the Columbine Killers got picked on because they were "different" in the ways that they dressed. If they had gone to their own public school where everyone was like them, maybe they wouldn't have gone schizoid and shot up the place. Where does this end? Will they have gay sports like wrestling and football?
This is one of the stupidist ideas I've heard in a long time. This should be a private, not public school if they want such a thing. Sheesh. |
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"If the "parents" of these Gay students want their kids to attend an all Gay school then they should start one and charge tuition. -- The taxpayers shouldn't have to foot the bill because these kids are not being provided any parental guidance in their lives."
I agree w/ you completely!! We need to become very vocal about this issue.
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that segregation due to being gay makes no sense. I can tell you who is Black, White, Male Female, Hispanic but unless I am told I have no way to know who is gay. If gay's would actually stop flaunting their sexual preference's they would probably not be singled out. As a matter of fact I have worked side by side with people for years and not known what their sexual preference was. Mainly because I do not care what anyone does in the privacy of their home. Besides the fact that we are talking about High School kids who are all usually under the age of consent to even have sex. Maybe if the Public Schools would stop focusing on sex and truly focus on educating our youth in Math, Science, History, Literature and Physical Education we might develope a generation that could actually compete on the World Stage. |
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Perhaps this proposed school will teach their pupils how to torment Mormons and set church fires.
Yet we do know that the real agenda is to make speaking out against perversions a hate crime. |
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Let there be no doubt that this is the "ones" agenda. While everyone is worried about their pocket books (rightfully so) the one will start the indoctrination early and on groups that will not protest. Can anyone say hilter youth..... Look at how gays reacted to prop 8. So much for tolerance. Obama needs stormtroopers to make sure that when everyday Americans speak out that they can be quickly beat down. I have told many people that we are faced with two choices. One be a wimp and let the far left ruin and rule this country. Second stand up and fight and be prepared to do just like the Founding Fathers did. Can anyone say San Fransico Tea party. America you better wake up and realize if you do not fight like H@ll there will be nothing left for our children. Here is a question to ask gay's. If marriage was not meant for only man and woman than why can not gay couples reproduce without the help of the opposite sex? If being gay was natrual then why do we not see it in other animals? It exsists only among human beings. Being gay is not natural and GOD says so period. HE says it is an abomination. I know their are people out there who many not believe in the Bible but once again look at other animals and their behavior. Gay schools are just a waste of money and are designed not to educate but indoctrinate. |
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I think the time has come to open schools across this nation that have the moral "right" fundamentals at the top of the agenda. Or make home schooling statements in massive numbers. I, will be damned if my grandchildren will be subjected to the immoral lefts ideals. We must fight fire with fire! White conservatives have been made the bad guys now, I as one refuse to make ANY concessions for my grandchildren, and America! Brace yourselves, this is going to be a long muddy road. When will we as Americans take a stand? |
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"Democratic larvae" was funny, I'm going to steal that. Hope you don't mind, William.
This is disgusting, this isn't what the public education system was designed for. It's a gross misappropriation of resources. I'm a product of two public schools systems (Michigan Public Schools & the University of Michigan) and I champion my education from both sources and have always championed public schools. But I am now realizing that when the time comes for my kids to go to school, the public school system is going to be ruined, and I will then have to champion the Catholic school system. That's not the change I was looking for...
...But you going along with the democratic larve comment, we know that education is the key to success and the less successful people are the more likely they are to buy into the liberal socialist thought. Do you think any real positive change is going to happen in our education system? No way, there's no payout for Democrats at the end of the day. Is that cynical? Yes, very much so, but probably true. |
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My son is a Senior at an all male Christian Brothers run high school and a Cadet Lieutenant Colonel in their JROTC program. My wife and I chose to send him there even though it was a financial sacrifice. We have not enjoyed family vacations other than weekend trips. We have lived on a very close tight budget to provide him with this because the "free" option of Public School is a joke. He has already been accepted at 5 of the top engineering universities in the country. If the "parents" of these Gay students want their kids to attend an all Gay school then they should start one and charge tuition. We wanted our son and daughter to have a Christian education so we pay for them to attend Catholic schools. The taxpayers shouldn't have to foot the bill because these kids are not being provided any parental guidance in their lives. |
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So far, every financial and social idea I've heard under the auspices of "social justice" is the exact opposite of justice. People who work are forced to hand over their earned income to people who have done nothing to earn it. Politicians spend the taxes we are forced to pay on social projects with which we vehemently disagree. Where is this alleged "justice"? |
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Seems to me segregation was fought to the death - to get rid of it - when African Americans were involved. Has the left figured out how to make it work so no one - including un-gays - is disenfranchised? Somehow those pesky unintended consequences would bite all of us in the butt once again if this actually happened! |
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school system, folks? Why do you think we homeschool? |
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Liberals always were for segregation. We are a sick and twisted nation. |
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and gay states too. Actually, while we're at it, why don't all the Dem/libs just move to the Western States and we normal people will take the Eastern States and we will have a civil parting of the ways? We will all be much happier although the Western States will quickly collapse due to insanity. |
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No math, no science, just "social" std's, err, I mean "studies". |
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separate but equal, so the idea makes little sense to me. People change their backward ways only by meeting people different than themselves, going to other countries, eating foods other than the ones they are raised eating.
Still, if the bigotry against gay teens puts those gay kids at risk, then perhaps the educational system needs to focus only on actual subjects, and hope that if the non-gay kids get to college, they will be able to gain some knowledge by meeting kids, traveling, etc, who are different than what they are 'used to'. We need to support our gay kids so that they are not put in physical jeopardy. |
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Masculinity has been denigrated and suppressed in public schools for decades. To succeed in higher education is to be feminized and neutered. Homosexuals are MORE likely to pursue higher education and secure high-paying jobs.
There is absolutely no justification for a "gay" high school on policy grounds, and it may be unconstitutional under Brown V Board of Education. |
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There is a fellow in Mass. who objected loudly to his kindergardener bringing home "king and king" (story of 2 princes getting married) as a reading assignment he got jailed for it and now is homeschooling
"What's in a family" got sent home in a "diversity" book bag to a first grader sounds benign right,...wrong... it featured 2 homosexual partners and one straight couple...
Here we go folks...The stuff is hitting the fan in the name of progressive/reform/or whatever you want to call it brace yourselves.
The VP elect wants to institute the UN's "rights of the child"
See the warning at http://www.parentalrights.org or click on my moniker for the Homeschool alert newsletter (unedited) to see what the UN really wants for your kids theyll be able to divorce you if it goes thru...like I said the stuff is hitting the fan...duck and RUN |
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I thought the object of the civil rights/social justice movement was to foster (force?) tolerance, acceptance and approval for all the protected classes? Now we have the left wing promoting separate schools for islamists, blacks, native Americans, women, hispanics, and gays!!
What our public schools get left with is the dregs of those protected classes and the white men. What do I tell my two white sons? "Don't learn prejudice from the lowlifes who go to your school because they were too stupid to go to the all black/gay/fill-in-the-blank school downtown." ?
How does taking the most productive of the protected classes out of public school, sending them away to "special" schools promote acceptance and understanding for those left behind?
Our esteemed President Elect got to go to private school, thanks to his affluent white grandparents, and so will his little girls... my white kids go to public school, where they deal with gays, blacks, Hispanics, etc AND THEY ALL LEARN TO GET ALONG!
Mr. duncan will encourage the separatist, elitist intelligentsia -- and won't be happy until all the leftovers are completely marginalized and silenced.
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"These kids are all Democrat larvae".....lol...lmao....thanks .....lol |
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after 4 years of this socialist, this country will only be a former shadow of itself. This dictator of a joke of president will spend all of his energy implementing his agenda - his very left and very liberal agenda. He will definitely change things, it's just too bad the middle of road voters couldn't see past their pocketbooks to realize his change means social policies much more than economic ones. |
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The issue isn't protecting the kids. The real issue is the teaching of "Social Justice" to a captive audience by radical liberal leftists like Bill Ayers and Comrade Obummer. These kids are all Democrat larvae and will be indoctrinated from day one so that when they reach 18, they too can be good Democrats for life. Talk about propaganda....worse, I have to pay for this crap with my tax dollars. |
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Reverting to segregation? |
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Separate, but equal....where have I heard that before |
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So the curriculum is social activism?
Will they also study, you know, science and math? |
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