Saturday, November 07, 2009
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Health Care Throwdown: Palin vs. Pelosi
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Posted by:
Meredith Jessup at
12:13 PM
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Sarah Palin used her Facebook page today to send a message to Nancy Pelosi: "Speaker Pelosi: Your Blue Dogs are Howling."
Like many Americans, I’m very concerned about the efforts underway to rush through the 2,000 page Pelosi health care bill this weekend. Why the rush? That’s a lot of pages to read. Why not give everyone the chance to read it and debate it?
How much will this bill cost us? It’s unclear because the figures coming out of Washington keep changing – and always in the direction of costing more, not less. The latest numbers show it will cost more than a trillion dollars over the decade, but when has a government program ever come in on or under budget?
How will we pay for it? Taxes, of course – and not just on the “rich” (you know, the people who spur the economy by buying goods and running companies that employ people), but also on just about everyone, especially small businesses – the job-creating engine of our economy. One of the points of health care reform was to help small businesses with the cost, but this bill hurts them – and right at a time when so many Americans are out of work and need the jobs that small businesses produce.
What’s in this bill? The “death panel” provision is in it. Medicare cuts are in it. Coverage of illegal immigrants is in it. And federal funding for abortion is in it. I commend the many Republicans and Blue Dog Democrats who are taking a principled stance to fight this.
I had a message for Speaker Pelosi in a speech I gave last night for the Wisconsin Right to Life – “please, please don’t break the ‘transparency promise’ by prohibiting at least a vote of your colleagues on funding abortion-on-demand.”
Speaker Pelosi has already broken many promises thus far in this “reform” exercise. She promised that this would be a bi-partisan effort, but the bill she’s pushing isn’t bi-partisan. She promised that the final version of the bill would be posted online 72 hours before it comes to a vote so that the American people could clearly see what’s in it and how we will pay for it. But she broke that promise too when she decided to rush the bill to a vote this weekend.
The speaker must be held accountable for her broken promises. Now is the time for Americans who believe in the free market and who believe that we need policies that promote job growth instead of job loss to say once and for all, “Enough!” Stand up and make your voices heard before it’s too late. Call and email your representatives and tell them to vote “no” on Pelosi’s train wreck of a health care bill, or else we will vote “no” to sending them back to Washington when we go to the polls in less than 12 months.
- Sarah Palin
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my monies on the honey from Alaska. Nancy Reid's face is stretched so tight that it might explode, if the girl don't get her way! I would pay big money to see Sarah apply a quick right hand to the bridge of madame speaker's nose, wouldn't you? Big money. |
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ain't you the violent one..tsk tsk..shame shame..
but YEAH!! In fact I'd like to do a bit of hair pulling myself or does the botoxed one wear a wig?
Watching the garbage on Fox, had to leave the room listening to all that propaganda from the criminal cabal in the majority, b.p. was going up.
There were 4.5 million pink slips FEDEXED to these nincompoops and I read somewhere that
while they aren't speaking about them openly, they are whispering privately about them. Last I heard, laid end to end these slips would reach from D.C. to Chicago of all places.
The Botoxed gang are reading the wrong tea leaves, they think because they picked up two seats they have a lock in the election even if this health care scam passes. |
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Everytime I see Pelosi I'm reminded of a comment by Rodney Dangerfield.
"The last time I seen a face like that it had a hook in it". |
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Calling the lying Nancy a LIAR is good stuff. She's useless, clueless, witless, brainless and artless. Bamster is a massive liar, as well, but does it with more grifter panache--by far--than San Fran Nan. |
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Your house is on fire.
And your FIVE children all gone.
All except one,
And that's little Trig,
For he crept under
Your campaign wig!
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LOL!
"Hey baby, you must've been something before electricity."
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Mixing the pain pills and booze a little early today? Or still going from last night?
That's what I love about any post with the word PALIN in it. You trolls enter a whole new realm of desperation.
In your honor let me say:
GO 'CUDA GO! |
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I sincerely hope that head case becomes the Republican presidential nominee in 2012 so that her vicious hate speech can guarantee Obama another four years in office!
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"so that her vicious hate speech"
Like your hate speech that you posted earlier?
If that little poem you wrote wasn't hateful what was it?
When you sober up can you provide some examples of "hate speech" from Palin?
I doubt you can do either.
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This isn't a contest between these two people -- are you all really that nuts???
Pelosi is the Speaker. For all her popularity Palin is just another Facebook blogger -- another pundit. Her "message to Pelosi" is just one of many -- and I'm sure it will get as much attention as mine or anyone else's message from the public will get.
I'm sure Pelosi has better things to do this weekend (like lobby elected officials) then worry about what the losing Conservative V.P. Candidate, and elected governor who quit in her first term think or write. Like most American, Pelosi probably doesn't give a rat's behind about what Palin thinks.
Palin gets very little respect from actual elected officials and it's a safe bet to say that she has almost no clout on the healthcare front. Her ignorant comments about her parents and baby Twig standing in front of a "death panel" showed the world how tenuous her grasp on reality is, and how her entire agenda is about spite and retribution for how she feels she was "harmed" by the media.
Throwdown?? In Jessup's perverse fantasy world, maybe it's a "throwdown." But for the rest of the world -- Palin gets old quickly -- her whining is getting very tiresome.
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we should resolve this healthcare issue.
Let's have nancy pelousy and Sarah Palin strap on the blades and throw down the gloves on the ice. The one who skates off gets to decide the fate of the healthcare bill.
I've got a vision of nancy p. with her jersey over her head and Sarah p. throwing haymakers like Ali on speed.
And it's a beautiful vision. |
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I really don't think the Democrats realize how foolish they sound stepping up to the podium and ranting that 'we have needed to fix this crisis since Teddy Roosevelt first said we needed it' and other ridiculous statements for the record. They will be embarrassed when the 'record' comes back to bite them in the next election.
then there are others who are invoking - yes they are - the other Teddy - Kennedy that is. We must pass this for Teddy, blah, blah, blah, they are really desperate to pass this spending bill. they need to raise taxes right away to spend on the paybacks and favors they owe - don't worry, if you are unemployed and uninsured, 2013 is just around the corner, you can wait for your coverage.
Before they mess something else up why don't they stop, go back and fix some of the things they have already messed up. |
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My wife hates virtually all politicians and probably don't think much of Sarah either.
Still, she says that the uglier the woman, the more she will dislike Sarah Palin.
She's got a theory of why this is true, but going to hold back on that for a while. It has to do with jealously.
I suspect you've noticed those who bad mouth Sarah the most usually look like the Wrath of God.
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In her fake smile before the cameras this morning Pelosi said 'I looked out the window and the protesters were there to threaten us.............. what a phony. She is the mean spirited person who tried to incite violence at the townhall meetings but true to form the only violence came from her thugs.
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"Palin gets very little respect from actual elected officials and it's a safe bet to say that she has almost no clout on the healthcare front."
Oh....then why worry about her let alone post about it?
If she "has no clout" and is "just another Facebook blogger" why pay her any mind during a debate about the biggest piece of legislation in 40+ years?
You could focus on something you find relevant. And there lies the effectivness of Palin.
You can't ignore her because she makes people like you who think she has "no clout" treat her as if she has "clout" thereby cementing the fact that you do indeed find that she has "clout" therby dismissing any claim by you that she has "no clout"
Thus giving her "clout".
Don't worry. You can read this over and over again to get it.
Or are you living proof of Seadog's wife's theory on why woman like you hate Palin so much? |
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...she hasn't come across like Einstein. But compared to Nancy, Sarah is a genius.
The irony here is toooooooooo rich! The good old double standard is alive and well. |
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cotton and corny just prove how DUMB AS DIRT the conservative party has become -- well the men at least.
You're even dumber than Sarah Palin. You would vote for the Pretty Gal from Alaska who doesn't have a brain in her head. You fantasize about 'fights' and 'throwdowns."
Wow. Go out on dates much? If you do, wouldn't want to meet the women you guys hang with -- as stupid as your comments are (and you are) they're probably twice as moronic. |
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I acknowledged Palin's popularity. Of course she's well-known, but no I do not believe that she has a grasp of reality or an understanding of what's in the bill and the true implications of it.
I get what you're trying to say -- it's not brain surgery. But there's a difference between recognition and influence. You'll read what a celebrity has to say, but will it influence your decision??
It's obvious that she doesn't understand the bill so how could she have any influence?
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Yeah, that Sarah Palin really is stupid, isn't she? Remember how she talked about FDR going on national television to address the 1929 stock market crash? What a doofus! Didn't she know FDR wasn't president in 1929, and that national television didn't exist?
Oh, wait a minute. That wasn't Sarah Palin who said that. It was Joe Biden.
Well, what about the time she leaked national security secrets to the press? Doesn't she have any sense at....
Oops! That was also Joe Biden.
What about the time she lied about her class standing? She claimed to have graduated in the top half of her class, when in fact she finished near the bottom....
No, that was Joe Biden, too.
Hmmm. Didn't she plagiarize from an English statesmen's speech? No, that was also Biden.
What about that ill-timed comment she made that people should stay away from air travel because of the flu scare? No, that was Biden, too.
On second thought, maybe Sarah Palin isn't so dumb. Next to that "genius" you call a Vice-president, she looks like Albert Einstein. |
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"but no I do not believe that she has a grasp of reality or an understanding of what's in the bill and the true implications of it."
"It's obvious that she doesn't understand the bill so how could she have any influence"
Fair enough. She did explain parts of the bill, as she understood it, on her FB page as you can see above.
What parts did she not understand?
Which points did she get wrong?
If you have info to the contrary, please reference it.
You wouldn't want me taking the words of someone who doesn't understand the bill? Would you?
So show me where she is wrong.
Then you will be correct and she will have no influence....at least with me.
I'll be here....please be thorough and again...source your work.
Ready!
Set!
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You want to talk dumb comments lets start with this one...
"Palin gets very little respect from actual elected officials"
So what? You do understand that the 535 congrassholes and senators are not the ones that would elect her nor whom she would represent. You might want to consider the 59.9 million people who voted for her and McCain as the ones whose respect she commands.
I'm pretty sure she views them as somewhat more important than the respect of a couple hundred lying crapweasels in DC. |
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Child for 'smarts' and 'intelligence' is The Bamma. Snicker..Giggle...Guffaaw..Snort. 'Nuff said, Y'all.
The lovely, tough as nails, experienced, All American Self-Made Girl Success Story Sarah has more practical intelligence in her trigger finger**than a trainload of these Useless-Clueless Slicks.
*See 'Blueneck Test' by Seadog on the "Just Vote No" thread above.*
**Trigger Finger has been used for shooting Moose, Wolves and other critters.** |
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said she was going to campaign in,'Yo!
Woopsie...That was Barry the Beta-Male, too, wasn't it? |
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"Palin gets very little respect from actual elected officials" LJ
Yeah. Neither do I. Just the way I plan to keep it. |
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2,000 pages of bill, lots of material to cover, and what is this "blog", the new news media, reporting on?
A vote count and a throw down.
Talk about an irrelevant party.
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every congressmen and every senator who votes yes to this healthcare garbage needs to LOSE next year and join the unemployed , and I think NANCY POLOSI needs to be prosacuted and jailed in prison for her dealings in this, she is NOT AMERICAN and needs to be jailed not just kicked out of congress. |
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"The lovely, tough as nails, experienced, All American Self-Made Girl Success Story Sarah has more practical intelligence in her trigger finger**than a trainload of these Useless-Clueless Slicks."
Well, NEO, that comment got me thinking of something and laughing.
Can you visualize Beta-Male obama piloting a fishing boat through rough Alaskan seas as Sarah Palin does on a regular basis? I tried to visualize that and started laughing when I realized that the boat would rapidly fill with stinky, brown stuff, which would happen when the bow of the boat started reaching for heaven -- a regular happening in Alaskan waters.
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"Talk about an irrelevant party."
When the Muslim jihadist U. S. Army infiltrator was launching a terrorist attack at Fort Hood and killing our soldiers, Obama was "shouting out" and sucking up to potential voters and a campaign rally. You were OK with that yesterday; what is your problem today? If conditions here at Th are not to your liking, don't let the door hit you in the a$$ on the way out. You will not be missed. |
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The liberals never wait to let you know who they are terrified of. Within hours of a new conservative female hitting the stage, they go into hysterical hissy fits.
Why do libs fear female conservatives so much?
Condi, Sarah, Michele Bachmann etc..
The tantrums, the name calling and demeaning comments, Wow.
You'd think liberals and their media lap dogs would at least try to be clevor, but they don't.
I have yet to meet a lib capable of articulating their disdain for Sarah Palin.
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A true believer of radical Islam got into the mix. We do not know how many more are walking around. How silly of the President to suggest differently. After 9/11 no lynchings came to American Moslems and so it will, likely, be. If any Moslems feel unsafe, would it be better back where they or their parents came from? Unlikely.
Anyone who says Sarah Palin is a dummy is not facing facts, and she has common sense. Pelosy is spending our childrens' and grandchildrens' money for votes from takers, now. The Chinese must be gleeful. We borrow, until our credit is questioned, so we can buy tons of stuff from them,lots of which we don't really need, using money they loan us. If she will not admit to this, than it is her intelligence or decency that should be questioned. Calling names and flinging insults is for schoolyard 6 year olds. |
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Will ACORN Get Cash Earmarked in Health Care Bill for ‘National Network of Community-Based Organizations’?—Bill’s Author Says ‘I Don’t Know’
en. Christopher Dodd (D-Conn.), the man who is shepherding the health-care reform bill through the Senate, says he doesn’t know for sure, but the controversial Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN) could qualify to receive health-care grants under a provision of the bill that provides money for groups that are members of a “national network of community based organizations.”
The grants are designed to fund groups that will "measure" people's health-related behavior on the community level, including whether they are gaining or losing weight, eating the right foods, getting exercise, using tobacco, or engaging in other personal behaviors targeted for federal monitoring by the secretary of health and human services.
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yesterday when the question of the constitutionality of the Healthcare (Control) bill
Democratic Rep Clyburn says there's nothing in the constitution that says we can do most of the things we do here.
So why should they get away with yet another unconstitutional act? If he says they have violated the Constitution then we should send every last one home by RE-CALL and bring some true Public Servants to DC. |
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who want us in all these wars show up at the recruiting office and sign up to die for Israel, then I'll take their bemoaning Major Hasan seriously.
I'm not sure why this guy snapped, but the fact is, it was clear long before he went off that he was snapping. So I ask the question, why didn't the military let him resign his commission 6 months ago when he came to the FBI's attention.
Why? Because if they start letting people resign because they disagree with the war, pretty soon they wouldn't have anyone left to fight it. So instead of just letting this person out, they fought to keep him in and insisted on deploying him to Afghanistan.... |
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AXE! Don't even go there. My grandson is an enlisted on a military base, not Hood BUT I'm a tad testy about the political correctness that gives these monsters cover! He was a jihadist!
He did what he wanted to do to gain points for his god, KILL the infidel! Better men and women than that pile of human debris could ever hope to be..two of the dead were born other countries, they were PROUD to serve and assimilated. This crud refused to call himself an AMERICAN, even though born here..he called himself Palestinian. The one pushing this p.c.
cra*ol-a are as guilty as the shooter.
These traitors should be culled out of the military PRONTO!
SEadog..your wife is sooo right..that's Nazi's trouble too..see reply to peacefrog. My tincan sailor husband agrees with you regarding the
Barry trying to pilot a boat in seas.
By the way, TROLLS, your Barry has yet to visit Hood..President Bush and Laura paid a private, quiet visit Friday night. Barry's going to Camp David tomorrow, today's he's all about saving HIS presidency with his healthscamgrab..he joked
on Thursday after hearing the news. He never visted Dover until he could bring a camera for HIS photo op.
Peacefrog..come to think of it she does look like a Hornpout (that's catfish for those of you in Rio Linda), a perfect bottom feeder.
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irrelevant fool to know irrelevancy. Night crawlers and vampires, ones good for bait! |
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The poor Jew Hating Turd, Auschwitz Axie, has but one fallback position and he always states it with such scrawny-limp adamantine girlishness: No armed servic, no cred for wanting Islamist Sewage dead at the hands of our great warriors. He's even managed to sell his little thonged self on the utter mythology that our service men and women are against our Overseas Contingency Ops...Errrr...War on Islamic Terror. Which is simply a LIE of the first order. But, then Auschwitz Axie, The Eichmann Fan, IS a Liar. |
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and right on cue, too. You simpleton, appeasing right up to the moment they put the knife on that scrawny neck of yours. And I'm no "neo-con", either, i never fell for that rock gut ideology of yours. Why don't you go back where you came from, and tell em' to send the smart ones for a change. Because the leftist group we got, couldn't fill up a thimble's worth of intelligence. |
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You're right. He should have been culled out of the military immediately. We are actually in agreement. It was probably fairly obvious he was screwed up in the head if the FBI was asking around about him SIX MONTHS AGO.
So the question becomes, WHY WASN'T he?
Oh,maybe because if you gave soldiers a CHOICE whether to continue to fight these wars for Israel, most of them WOULD opt out. So they were willing to drag Hasan kicking in screaming into a deployment where he would have been a danger to himself and other than set the precedent that maybe some orders you don't obey. Because, hey, nobody is really signing up anymore and you have national guard units being sent out the third time....
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"The poor Jew Hating Turd, Auschwitz Axie, has but one fallback position and he always states it with such scrawny-limp adamantine girlishness: No armed servic, no cred for wanting Islamist Sewage dead at the hands of our great warriors. He's even managed to sell his little thonged self on the utter mythology that our service men and women are against our Overseas Contingency Ops...Errrr...War on Islamic Terror. Which is simply a LIE of the first order. But, then Auschwitz Axie, The Eichmann Fan, IS a Liar."
Me- sorry, guy, I served, unlike you, and I have the DD214 to prove it...
I just don't see what AMERICA'S interest is in the eternal fight between Islam, Christianity and Judaism... ANd neither did the founders.
John Adams conclued a treaty that said THIS...
"Art. 11. As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen; and, as the said States never entered into any war, or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties, that no pretext arising from religious opinions, shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries."
Wow. how about that. America has NOTHING to do with the arguments about which Invisible Sky Pixie is the RIGHT invisible Sky Pixie. What a notion!
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" You simpleton, appeasing right up to the moment they put the knife on that scrawny neck of yours. And I'm no "neo-con", either, i never fell for that rock gut ideology of yours. Why don't you go back where you came from, and tell em' to send the smart ones for a change. Because the leftist group we got, couldn't fill up a thimble's worth of intelligence."
Not at all. I'd be all for taking all the Islamic ambassadors into a room and telling them we'll nuke Mecca if they screw with us.
But first, we have to get out of the business of taking a stance in the silly 3000 year old argument over which invisible sky pixie is right.
Right now, we support the Zionist Crusader State known as Israel because of the influence of lobbies like AIPIC, and because there are a lot of religious nutters who think we have to have a Jewish State so JESUS and the ANTI-CHRIST can start the cycle that ends the world. In other words, absolute religious, superstitious horsecrap that has nothing to do with us, but these idiots believe in.
Here's my middle east policy.
1) We take no sides. You want to kill each other, have at it. Darwinism in action.
2) We take all the money we spend propping up Israel and fighting wars, and invest it into finding alternatives to petroleum.
3) We let it be known, if ANY side continues to act in a hostile way towards America, there will be immediate and severe reprecussions. Oh, yeah, these reprecussions WILL be radioactive.
4) We take all the money we save an invest it in American jobs, American education and American infrastructure. America First.
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doesn't measure up in any way to an exceptionally strong American woman like Sara Palin.Palin has proven her love of country while governor of Alaska.She dismantled the good ole boy network of her state and faced down the oil companies for the people of Alaska.
Nancy"where's my prozac"Pelosi is the most evil,most anti-American,most hatefull Speaker of the House of Representitives in the history of this country.
While Sara Palin could go pretty much anywhere in this country and be welcomed with open arms.Pelosi's life wouldn't be worth spit if she tried the same. |
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"2,000 pages of bill, lots of material to cover, and what is this "blog", the new news media, reporting on?
A vote count and a throw down.
Talk about an irrelevant party."
2,000 pages from Pelosi?
There is only one thing to say or discuss.
NO!
See how easy that is?
Now we can go back to the subject at hand. |
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How's the swelling?
I see you ditched me on the last thread.
I thought you might have gone to get ready for your cross burning tonight.
What happened? Someone break the swastika stencil?
Or is your head so swelled up from the beat down you've been getting here that your hood won't fit?
"I served, unlike you, and I have the DD214 to prove it..."
So does Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan.
Thump!
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What an ego!
"Here's my middle east policy."
The megalomaniac has policies! Could it be his voice will reach the White House? Could it happen his "policy" has more than hot air to offer?
Who knows. I didn't see it and I never intend to see it. I cannot risk a hernia from laughing my @ss onto the floor. BTW; I have no middle east policy. I only have this middle finger to shove up a loony idiot's rumble seat. |
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That is funny...
My Middle East Policy by Ax:
Kill the Effing Jews Now!
Thank you,
Ax |
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insensitive to Auschwitz Axie's Jew Hating, Islamist Enabling, Eichmann Loving needs, don'tcha know! |
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Sarah Palin's whole political life is ahead of her,her book isn't even released yet and it is a bestseller,she has a loving family and many admirers who can identify with her all American story.
Nancy Pelosi's political flame is all but extinguished,her book sales were pathetic and the only people who can identify and support her reside in San Francisco and of course axe or white Sal or whatever he calls himself at the moment. |
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Thanks for bringing things back to point.
I concur. The desperation for Nan is showing in everything she has been saying since this summer.
And now she is going hat in hand not only to get some sort of HCR bill done, but to save her sorry career. If she doesn't deliver here... well it's the night of the long knives for her.
She knows it. We all know it.
Palin has survived the disaster of John McCain and proven herself a viable concern for RINO's with NY. She can take a punch and then hit back. The book could be lights out for a few more RINO's as well as some party hacks who work behind the scenes. While everything and anything is subject to change, she will be if nothing else, a "king maker" in conservative politics for many years to come. She is young and just hitting her stride and anyone who would discount her for a moment is a fool.
And Neo. Are you suggesting that I ease up on Ax?
Not a chance man. Not a chance.
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Palin-0
Pelosi-1
That's means Palin lost AGAIN for those of you not so good with the math. |
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Just know that it is a Bottomless Appetite. A Black Hole of Emotional Need. It LIVES for scorn from Cons. It withers with NO Attention. |
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"I served, unlike you, and I have the DD214 to prove it..."
So does Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan.
Me- Actually, they only issue DD214 after you complete your service... THUMP. Please actually learn what you are talking about.
And, no I didn't ditch you in any other thread, I'm actually not really bothering to follow what you say, since you seem quite incapable of reading anything and comprehending it.
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"Dread...
That is funny...
My Middle East Policy by Ax:
Kill the Effing Jews Now!Thank you,
Ax"
Me- Please point out where I said that?
My point was, and you keep missing it, is that they've CHOSEN to live in a region where their neighbors don't want them and will try to kill them. They've made that choice, stupidly, foolishly, etc.
Why should WE be sending young men over to die for it, send our tax dollars to support it, and incur the wrath of the people who want to kill them? We'd have no problems in the Middle East if we didn't support Israel.
We have no dog in this fight, but we keep acting like we do.
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"Sarah Palin's whole political life is ahead of her,her book isn't even released yet and it is a bestseller,she has a loving family and many admirers who can identify with her all American story. Nancy Pelosi's political flame is all but extinguished,her book sales were pathetic and the only people who can identify and support her reside in San Francisco and of course axe or white Sal or whatever he calls himself at the moment."
Me- Actually, Palin doesn't have a future in the GOP. They'll use her to raise money, but the fact is, the people who really run your party will never make her the nominee. She ticked off most of the establishment with her idiotic stunt in NY23, where she essentially helped hand a safe GOP seat to a Democrat.
For Pelosi, actually, I agree, she probably has a limited life as speaker. The Dems will take losses in 2010, because they always do in midterms. I think that Pelosi and Reid will both be gone after the midterms (Reid because he'll be voted out by his own state, Pelosi because Hoyer will move against her after they take losses), but Obama might be better off for it. Pelosi and Reid were effective as oppossition to George W. Stupid, but they are ineffective at moving agendas forward. He'd be better served with Hoyer and Durbin or Schumer as floor leaders. |
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The megalomaniac has policies! Could it be his voice will reach the White House? Could it happen his "policy" has more than hot air to offer?
Me- Oh, I'm a realist. As long we have a proZionist media, you are never going to have a sensible middle east policy...
Travel in Europe some time. They see the issue completely differntly, because they aren't bombarded by Zionist propaganda like we are.
Nope, instead, we'll keep propping up this Zionist Crusader State, keep getting hit by terrorists until we get tired of it. Eventually, though, the Arabs will Push Isreal into the sea. Or blow it off the map. It's just how much lives and treasure are we going to waste in the meantime. |
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"Me- Actually, they only issue DD214 after you complete your service... THUMP. Please actually learn what you are talking about."
WRONGO, Buddy!
A DD-214 is issued at the expiration of each enlistment, even if one re-enlists. (A person who re-enlists is technically out of the service for a twenty-four hour period.)
I believe you said that you served eleven years. If so, you should have at least three DD-214's, depending on the length of your enlistments. If you have only the one from when you were discharged (or released) from the Army, then you should contact St. Louis and get copies. (I did that a few years ago when the USCG wanted ALL of my DD-214's and I couldn't find one of them. (I needed them to obtain a Merchant Marine Licenses to Officer from the USCG.)
FYI: There is a web site titled "Military Records" that can be used to obtain missing DD-214's. (I never used it myself -- going on what a person told me who did use the site.)
I believe, but am not certain, that a DD-214 is issued to an officer when the officer completes any sort of contract, such as signing on for six years active duty to qualify for a particular program or training. The officer does not, thereafter, receive a DD-214 until he leaves the service or retires -- not entirely certain about this. . . |
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I only have one DD214, and it is issued at the end of any period of active duty... Well, technically, they issued one when I completed IET as a reservist, but I don't count that one... and even you aren't entirely sure. There certainly wasn't one issued when I completed my first active duty enlistment of three years, at least not that I know of.
Still, I doubt Major Hasan has one, and aren't we kind of getting off track here... |
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I am certain about DD-214's for active duty enlisted folks, but not for officers. Not certain how reserves are handled either.
You might be correct about Hasan, but, again, I'm not certain what happens when one completes training. He might have gotten one when he completed the Army Medical College and obtained a commission. That is, of course, if he was some sorta cadet while attending medical school -- no idea how that works.
I've had 3-4 admirals who were ex-enlisted and all were very proud of that, but one really pushed the bubble. He bragged about having prior enlisted service as an E-5. I (rather his writer) discovered that his only enlisted service was while he was an Aviation Cadet, who are paid as an E-5 during training! I don't know if he had an DD-214, or not. |
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Hey Eugene
What is IET? Do you mean AIT? Are you sure you were in Military? |
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