Saturday, May 31, 2008
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DNC Votes
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Posted by:
Amanda Carpenter at
6:38 PM
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Summary: Hillary doesn't get what she wants. DNC agrees to seat all of Michigan and Florida's delegates with half a vote each. She wanted them all. In the case of Michigan, 69 delegates are allocated to Clinton, 59 to Obama. Unhappy with the decision, the Clinton campaign is threatening to take the decision to the DNC Credentials Committee, implying she will take the fight to the Democratic Convention in August. (The nuclear option.)
The total number of delegates needed to achieve the Democratic nomination for president is now higher. Instead of 2,026, as it has been, the number is now 2,118. There are three primaries left. By CNN's count Obama is 68 delegates away from getting the nomination
This was the play by play:
6:40pm:The Democratic National Committee denies Hillary Clinton the full number of delegates with full voting rights from Florida. 12 members of the 30-member committee voted in favor of granting her all the delegates, 15 voted against. The motion fails. "Denver! Denver! Denver!"protesters are yelling. "Count all the votes!"
Clinton supporter Alice Huffman, who pushed for a full Florida count, is asking them to "Please, do not do what they expect you to do," meaning don't go nuts in front of the media. "Please conduct yourselves like proper men and women and understand we must compromise," she lectures. They don't.
6:46pm: Vote to seat all Florida delegates with 1/2 vote each. (The compromise vote). 27 members vote in favor. It passes.
6:52pm: Michigan is up. The Michigan Democratic Party issues the first motion to seat all Michigan delegates with 1/2 vote each but reallocate the delegates so Clinton gets 69 and Obama gets 59.
Clinton strategist Harold Ickes looks positively beaten down. Hair is disheveled and he isn't hiding his disdain for the process. "This motion will hijack, hijack, remove four delegates one by Hillary Clinton and most importantly reflect the preferences of six hundred thousand Michigan voters," he fumes. "This body of 30 individuals has decided they are going to substitute their judgment for six hundred thousand voters...I am stunned we have the gall and the chutzpuh to subsititue our judgment for six hundred thousand voters."
Now he delivers Hillary's threat: "There has been a lot of talk about party unity. Let's all come together, wrap our arms around one another. I submit to you gentleman that hijacking four delegates not withstanding [can't keep up with the transcript here] this is not a good way to start down the path of party unity." Then he drops the bomb. He says Clinton asked him to reserve the campaign's rights to take the issue to the DNC credentials committee in July.
7:08: 19 members vote in favor of the Michigan motion. 8 vote against. The Michigan motion passes. Four delegates are "hijacked" as Ickes says. The party officials are asking security to bar the doors. Protesters are going nuts.
The meeting is over.
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The Florida decision is a compromise which will satisfy no one. Instead of only angering half the party's base, they'll anger the whole thing. |
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get delegates allocated? Obama CHOSE to take his name off the MI ballot. There were ads run in MI telling the voters that if their candidate of choice was not on the ballot to just vote "uncomitted."
So now in the infinite wisdom of the DNC rules committee, somehow those "uncomitted" votes transcribe into being Obama votes???
What if the candidate of their choice was their neighbor, or the dog catcher or their cat or dog? Those would have fallen under the "uncomitted" section of the ballot.
Obama not on the ticket yet he gets delegates allocated....only in the Democratic party would that make sense. |
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who didn't have the balls to hold their discussions in public but rather made their decisions in the smoke-filled back hallways.
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....the dems have shown that they are the party of no principles. They can't even play by their own rules.
How can we ever trust these people when we know they won't hesitate to change the rules in the middle of the game....?
What a freaking disgrace....! |
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On the Democratic side, spliting the difference. On the Republican side, another excuse to b!tch. |
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The DNC asked him to choose and he did. he is a weak negro without allegience to pastor, faith, church and EVEN COUNTRY! except political expediency. See what his pastor for 20 years said about him
'Barak will say what he needs to say to get votes'
What will Obama do when he faces pressure with our enemies? throw the entire country under the bus?
FYI - Americans aren't stupid, they won't elect an inexperienced man who stole the nomination by having standards lowered to accomodate his stupidity. What presidential candidate removes his name from the ballot? An inexperienced, stupid one! |
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Obama's character is a lot like that of his parents. His father abandoned him as a kid and did not face up to his responsibilities as a father or friend to his kid. His mother seems to be attracted to men who were 'on the go' and she appears to have been a very 'busy body'. Today, by throwing his church under the bus, Obama confirmed that an apple does not fall far from it's tree. He really is the product of his irresponsible african father and 'busy body' mother. Even mobsters, and gangsters have a code not to be a sell out!
Do you think world leaders will find this man credible? First he disavows his muslim roots, now he has disavowed his church community. He is an apostate and a backslider or backsliden nutcase. |
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