"By the way Arch did post something that he claims you said. When a soldier was killed you supposedly stated that "bad things happen to bad people" He claims that you were also banned because of that remark. Now tell me is it true."
You say you believe Arch and yet you have no clue what he's talking about? Because Arch is slandering a liberal, that's all you need to know, I guess.
And all I need to know is that I've explained what you wrote about way too many times already, and I know that you have read my explanations, and still choose to believe a semi-literate pervert. |
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As you well know I was never around when Arch was posting in the evening and only started to read what he has written when he brought your name to my attention after reading one of my posts to you. As far as the shooter I do believe and it has proven to be true that he was an anti-Semite. I also thought and still do that Obama throwing Israel under the bus emboldened many anti-Semites that is my opinion. This man did not act until after Obama's stance on Israel was announced. Strange I would say. Now you seem to take offense to that but you, who claims to be the father of a soldier takes no offense when your girl friend claims that our sons are nothing but hired killers that were taken off the streets of the ghetto for Bush's lies. Any parent who would pass that by and continue to suck up to that person just because they were a lib is either lying about being the parent of a soldier or is so anti-American that they can't even stand up for their child because they have such hatred for the military. Either way you are despicable to say the least. By the way Arch did post something that he claims you said. When a soldier was killed you supposedly stated that "bad things happen to bad people" He claims that you were also banned because of that remark. Now tell me is it true. If so I would not be surprised at all. |
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If I had a nickel for every lie you've told about me, I could retire.
"As the statement that you claim Arch made was long before my time I have no way of evaluating if it is true or not."
But you have "evaluated" that other things he's said are true? How do you do that?
Arch posted his pornography on June 16. You posted the following hateful screed on June 11, the day after the shootings at the Holocaust museum:
"I would say that yesterdays incident was leftist driven. After all Obama threw Israel under the bus last week so why would this not embolden any anti-semite. The left owns this one for sure."
So, obviously, Arch's porn was NOT "long before your time," and I've asked you to disown it many times and you've refused. So, if I disrespect the troops - as you've said over and over again - you are a child molester. QED.
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I see that although I have not been around here long that I am not the only one that has seen Vlad for what he is.
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with a name like that I'll bet many denards you're an 'Obama' supporter. good guess? Just sayin'.... "
Get out of your hole once in a while, may be you will meet Americans with names such as 'Asad'. I am a republican, loved Reagan and supported the two Bush's after him. If I were stupid like you, I would be supporting the dimwit quitter from Alaska. Stupid people like Palin and you are the reason why conservative message never get to broader audience. Why dont you go become a dem and bring down that party with your stupidity? There is a saying, better to have intelligent enemies than to have stupid friends. |
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As the statement that you claim Arch made was long before my time I have no way of evaluating if it is true or not. It is only your say so. Now what you forgot to do is state that the post was in no way associated with me. I have read recent post by Arch as he has stated that you made statements that dissed our military. I myself found that you are the last in line to defend our soldiers.
I do not know what Arch said to you but I do know that I have seen myself.
Now Vlad time to apologize for linking my name to something you are well aware I never said.
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"Obama did promise change. I don't see it. Do you?"
I know the right wing thinks the black helicopters and detention camps are right outside the back door but, really, you think the White House controls David Letterman? |
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"Please show where I posted this statement that you are associating my name with."
You're the one who keeps proclaiming that if you don't disclaim other people's statements, you support them. You keep saying that I do not respect the troops, right? You've said it over and over again. I've never said anything remotely like that, but because somebody ELSE did, somewhere, once upon a time, and I didn't challenge it, you hold me to it.
Are you with me so far? Probably not.
Well, you've never disowned Arch's pornography. In fact, you keep RECOMMENDING Arch to other people here. If you have such faith in his integrity, then fisting my daughter is probably your idea of fun.
Now please shut up and ignore me. |
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When it comes to backing up your statements you disappear. I guess I have now proven my point that you are the one who is lying and you are the one who is disingenuous. I will not bother to ask again as I know you have as usual made accusations that you cannot back up. But after all is the truth really important to you, of course not. |
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Vlad Posts:"Incidentally, Palin is capable of making her own cheap shots, like the one about "real Americans." What am I, a fake American? If you're going to indulge in that sort of rabble -rousing, don't complain when people hit back."
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Hey Vlad I think that was in response to the "bitter clingers" cheap shot from Obama - Do you remember that one? "And it's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy toward people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti -trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." -
Obama's remarks at a San Francisco fundraiser
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RE:Vlad posts "My point was that as tawdry as all of this is, it's how the game is played in the U.S. today. I completely agree that it should be changed"
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Well we do agree there but Obama did promise change. I don't see it. Do you?
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You will get the last word on this one. I am off on vacation and you are now on this "bitter clinger's" prayer list :)
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"This is how Arch and Diane prefer to address political matters: "How would you like me as a conservative, to pen1s slap your daughter as she satisfies a couple of more hairless men? How would you like me to fist your little girl while she suckles at the genitals of strangers?"
And when called on it, this is how Arch responds: "You secretly embraced my question in a fantasy sexual self encounter upon reading it."
Please show where I posted this statement that you are associating my name with. You can't because as usual you are lying. I cannot speak for Arch but you know full well that you never read this on one of my posts. Vlad lying to make yourself look better is not very nice. In your attempt to cover for yourself you have unfortunately dug yourself into a deeper hole. Please show my post making any statement even close to what you have written here. |
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If anybody else is so foolish as to be following this lunacy, my son is in the Marines. Diane and Arch have, in their own little way, come to the conclusion that this is not true. Read their other posts and decide for yourself.
This is how Arch and Diane prefer to address political matters: "How would you like me as a conservative, to pen1s slap your daughter as she satisfies a couple of more hairless men? How would you like me to fist your little girl while she suckles at the genitals of strangers?"
And when called on it, this is how Arch responds: "You secretly embraced my question in a fantasy sexual self encounter upon reading it."
These are truly disturbing individuals. Diane, do me a BIG favor and ignore everything I say. Stop posting. I knew there were perverts on the internet, I just hope you'll stay far away. |
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It appears that most here have already formed an opinion of you and from what I see it is not good. You would be better served going back to the sites with those of your own kind. Unlike you Vlad I do not lie when I state that I am the proud mother of one of those fine soldiers that defend our country. Funny how Arch came along and was able to show just how little respect you have for them, Exactly the same thing that I observed. Gee who is the liar. I do not intend to engage you as I find most of your post are ignorant to say the least but more importantly anyone who has such a lack of respect for these fine young men and women of the military deserves to be ignored. |
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I think it would be good if you again showed how Vlad disses the fine young men and women of our military. It would perhaps show some that are new on this board what he is really all about. Show what a fine up standing American he really is. |
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In the words of an immortal American entrepreneur -
Let me explain: shut up.
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"What has been done to Gov. Palin and her family is wrong. Where's your new politics? Where's "the change"?"
I think I see where you're coming from. You see a "liberal" on the internet and immediately assume that the "liberal" hates Sarah Palin and flings feces around the room at the mention of her name. I suppose those people exist, but I have nothing against Sarah Palin at all. I mean, I disagree with most of what she stands for, but if people want to vote for her, more power to them. Moreoever, you refer to "new politics" and "change," but Obama has had absolutely nothing to do with Sarah Palin's issues.
I've already agreed numerous times that she's received some cheap shots. But really, the ethics charges in Alaska had some basis. I'm not an expert on her situation but when you fire somebody who's fighting with a member of your family, somebody should check on what's going on. And I'm glad you agree with me that the Clintons were dragged through the mud with as little evidence, and for a whole lot more money.
Incidentally, Palin is capable of making her own cheap shots, like the one about "real Americans." What am I, a fake American? If you're going to indulge in that sort of rabble-rousing, don't complain when people hit back.
My point was that as tawdry as all of this is, it's how the game is played in the U.S. today. I completely agree that it should be changed.
My point was that what has happened to Sarah Palin is very far from the worst we've seen, and she didn't handle it very well at all. If she wants to be taken seriously, she has to do more than assert that she should be taken seriously. |
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For your reading pleasure. Vlad is at it again. Now he has found someone new to lie to. I am sure you will address this later. All here are aware of Vlad's problems. |
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"He will continually engage you even when you give him facts but will stand silent as others in his group will say vile and disgusting things that degrade our soldiers and our country."
Diane lies so bad she has to pay somebody to call her dog. I'd give you a few examples of some REALLY vile and disgusting things that she supports, but then I'd have to go take another shower.
But hey, you're a big girl. Go ahead, read what Diane says and read what Arch says, and make up your own mind. And if Diane ever once posts a fact or bit of logic here, mail me a card so I'll know. |
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Have a great vacation. You can bet that the same trolls will be here when you get back. |
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Thanks - I actually don't have as much time today. We are going on vacation later so I hope Vlad "gets it" with those posts.
I don't entirely get why the libs/trolls post here other than out of fear or not enough to do.
I just don't have that much time so I limit my paticipation to posting for Pro-life, Sarah Palin and Troop Issues.
I appreciate your posts and good luck with the trolls :)
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Good morning. Your post to Vlad was excellent but you will find that Vlad will go round and round without really addressing what you said. He is a guy that is best ignored as he will never get it. He is nothing more than a liberal groupie. He will continually engage you even when you give him facts but will stand silent as others in his group will say vile and disgusting things that degrade our soldiers and our country. Obviously there are many here that you can have a good discussion with even when they have differing opinions. Vlad is not one of them. |
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Vlad posts: "Of course I remember,(Susan McDougal) but I'm afraid I don't know what your point is," (RE:"Susan McDougal is one of the few people who served prison time as a result of the Whitewater controversy - although fifteen individuals were convicted of various federal charges.
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*My point* is Susan's crime was refusing to answer three questions about the Clintons.My
point is that all these "investigations" "complaints" etc. seem to spiral out of control
It is not just about Palin any more it involves
her family, her co workers and the people of her State. Gov. Palin honestly entered politics to serve "the people". She began as a hockey Mom in the PTA.
She takes her service to others and the stewardship of public money to heart. She can no longer be effective and is being forced to waste the peoples time and money. She made the right choice for her at this time.
What would she do as Prez? I do not know. That is a hypothetical and neither of us has any facts. What I do believe is that she will make the right choices for whatever circumstances may surrounding her at any given time.
She may not become POTUS. She may follow Hillary's path and take a Cabinet level post such as Sec. of Education or Health and Human Services. I have heard rumors she may become Rep. Party Leader.
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RE: Wrong is wrong
As I said I do believe that the Clinton witch hunt was wrong. I never heard Chelsea called "a dog" but if it happened it was wrong.
I believe what was done to John Kerry was really wrong. It still upsets me every time I see a purple heart license plate.
I am pro-life not pro-republican. I think that blind partisanship is out of control on both sides of the aisle.
What has been done to Gov. Palin and her family is wrong. Where's your new politics? Where's "the change"?
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"It would be a neat trick because she would have had to have sex immediately after giving birth and get pregnant again!"
Nonsense. She could wait some number of months, as many as nine, before becoming pregnant again. Having two babies within a span of 18 months isn't at all close. Two of my siblings are only 11 months apart.
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RE:Vlad asks:"Why do you say they are baseless"
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In the Govs own words:
"...Political operatives descended on Alaska
last August, digging for dirt. The ethics law
I championed became their weapon of choice.
Over the past nine months I've been accused of
all sorts of frivolous ethics violations -
such as holding a fish in a photograph, wearing
a jacket with a logo on it, and answering reporters' questions.
***Every one - all 15 of the ethics complaints have been dismissed.****
We've won! But it hasn't been cheap - the State has wasted THOUSANDS of hours of YOUR time and shelled out some two million of YOUR dollars to respond to "opposition research" - that's money NOT going to fund teachers or troopers - or safer roads. And this political absurdity, the "politics of personal destruction" ... Todd
and I are looking at more than half a million dollars in legal bills in order to set the record straight. And what about the people who offer up these silly accusations? It doesn't cost them a dime so they're not going to stop draining public resources - spending other peoples' money in their game.
It's pretty insane - my staff and I spend most of our day dealing with THIS instead of progressing our state now. I know I promised
no more "politics as usual," but THIS isn't what anyone had in mind for ALASKA..."
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After 247 blog comments, I can see that "Palin!!!" will be the next sure fire talk radio buzzword for years to come along with "Guns!!" and "Abortion!!". I am not kidding. This is indeed an accomplishment. The first public person that 20% of the population adores, 20% despises, and 60% could care less.
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It would be a neat trick because she would have had to have sex immediately after giving birth and get pregnant again! no woman in her right mind would have sex within 4 to 6 weeks of delivering. Plus which, there are pictures of her for several months back before she actually began to show with 'her' child (not Trigg) and she was slender and NOT pregnant. You stupid, stinking, vile liberals are the dumdest bunch of heathens on planet earth, and the most argumentative - even when you don't have a f-ing clue what you're talking about. My sincerest wish is for you and ALL your kind to go and take a very long walk off a very short pier. I try and have some semblence of respect for your viewpoints at times but you have finally convinced me that you are not worth my time because you are incapable of hearing anything other than what you need to hear in order to continue your insane brainwashed adulation for the most nefarious a-s-s-h-o-l-e in America!
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Can you provide an accounting of every candidates wardrobe or are you only interested in Palin's clothes? I suppose it never occured to you that Alaskans don't have a summer wardrobe so the RNC purchased clothes for Palin. If Republicans didn't care about that why is it the business of the Democratic Party?
It was the liberal DailyKos that started the rumor that Trig is Palin's grandson. And yes, Bristol Palin got pregnant and had a baby out of wedlock, but so did 700,000 teenage girls.
Bristol Palin spoke to her peers advising them not to do what she had done. What's wrong with that?
Check out the Huffington Post. You would think that a liberal icon had died. They are actually mourning the loss of Sarah Palin. Liberals are obsessed with the womam. In fact she gets more press coverage than the POTUS does.
So I tip my hat to liberal parents because it's obvious that their sons and daughters never engage in premarital sex or have babies out of wedlock because if they did it would make liberals hypocrites.
I tip my hat to liberals who are practiced in the art of political correctness because during the campaign they showed restraint and impeccable manners, call it kindness if you will toward a fellow citizen. Thank you so much.
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I guess you follow Palin not because of what she does of says but just because she is Palin.
Once again you have followed her lead blame everyone else. Did she have to wear the $150,000 worth of clothes? Did she have to let her daughter walk around with a Gucci bag? If she wanted to keep it real then she should have said no. People made her do this stuff? If that is the case then she is weak. Poor Sarah had no choice. She did have a choice.
One weekend they talked about Trig as her grandchild. No mainstream papers went with that story and it was over after Palin announced that Bristol was with child. Palin is the one that still brings it up.
By the way the problem is not with Dems in Alaska, it is with Repubs. Republicans have majority in both chambers. They are the ones that turned down her AG. They are the ones talking about her. Just like it is McCain people talking about her, not Dems.
As far as spending 80% of her time dealing with the media, she could have kept herself in Alaska. She didn't have to put Bristol out there as a spokesperson for teen sex. You put your child in that situation and don't think people are not gonna say something. No one forced her to put her child out there like that. No one told her to go on tv and continue an argument with David Letterman for two weeks.
There are lots of people that get harassed by the media on a daily basis. They still manage to get on with their job. Clinton didn't quit his job. I could go on but I think you get my "gist".
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She quit because she was blocked by accomplishing anything. Her spokesperson on O'R said tonight that the AK Dems had orders from the national Dems to block her no matter what.
Up until the Nov. election, she'd had a good working relationship with the Dems, especially on energy issue.
Why run up bills, subject your children to horrible attacks, cost your family and Alaskans money if you're not accomplishing anything?
Insanity is to continue to do the same thing over and over the same (ineffective) results.
Now, do I believe Palin currently has the depth to be POTUS? I do not. But this course of action can be interpreted as sensible and honorable.
Will it be a zonk politically in the short run? You betcha!
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"(neat trick she pulled there, having two babies in 1 1/2 years!)"
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She is blaming people because there are hundreds of thousands of the stinking cretins to blame. Just whose fault would you say it was when the Media says SHE had spent $150,000 on clothes when the RNC people did it and gave them to her to wear because they didn't think she looked classy enough? Whose fault was it when the libs began bashing her oldest daughter for having a baby out of wedlock when 700,000 other teenage girls have did the same thing last year? Why is she so different? Whose fault was it the Media ran with an unsubstantiated story that she had an affair? Or that Trigg was actually Bristol's baby; (neat trick she pulled there, having two babies in 1 1/2 years!) and I guess you think she should just take it in stride when she and her staff have to spend 80% of their time and Aalaska has had to spend over two million dollars already fighting one stupid, frivolous allegation after the other by goons who can do it without spending a dime and it costs her and Todd personally over 1/2 million dollars so far. Oh yeah, and then there's the problem with the dems on the legislature who are pi$$ed at her and say they can no longer work with her because she dissed Obama for his Socialist agenda and are now doing their dead level best to destroy her? Get your ignorant head out of your
a-s-s and see the corruption and idiocy of the far left maggots who don't have any integrity or backbone.
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I don't get the "gist". Palin quit her job because she couldn't take the heat. She went on to blame everyone else. If she had won in November no one would have said a word about her leaving her job, why because it is different. What she did is not conservative and playing this victim role when she herself said was not good for women is not gonna put her in any position to win in 2012. How can she talk about personal responsibility when she has walked out on her job, not once but twice. Both times she has blamed everyone else.
If you really believe in conservative values go out and support someone that that deserves your conservative vote because they live what they talk. There are some out there but in my opinion Palin ain't the one. In my opinion people like Palin, Sanford and Ensign are only mouthing the words. I voted for Reagan because I knew he lived and breathed what he believed. Do you think Reagan would have quit his job in California because the hippie media was giving him a hard time? Do you think he would he would have thought what Palin did was a great example for kids to follow?
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"I can name a few Senators who walked away from their jobs."
The Constitution requires sitting members of the House and Senate to give up their seats when they join the executive branch. They are following their oaths of office and supporting the Constitution. Nothing made Palin quit but her own weakness. |
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Your flapping your lips , and I guess that means Sarah did something illegal getting her house? I know seeing your upset about Sarah Palins housing situation, you must be really PO abot Chris Dodd Getting that sweatheart deal from Countrywide? Or about Diane Feinstein getting her hubby a 25billion dollar deal on repossesed homes, or Jack Murtha's airport to no where,or jeffersons cold cash bribes, or barney frank,or burris or boxer durbin. |
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I can name a few Senators who walked away from their jobs. Let's start ~wit~ (pun intended) Obama, who began his bid for the Presidency just after being seated; Kathleen Sebelius 'quit' her job to join HIS team; Joe Biden 'quit' his Senate position to become BHO's vice President. Hillary Clinton 'quit' her job as New York Senator to be Secretary of State under HIM. Napolitano 'quit' her position, and Sotomayor will 'quit' HER position to serve her lord and master, etc., etc., etc. the list is way too long to continue, but I think you get the gist. You Liberals don't have a clue who is good and who is bad or right from wrong or even when to come in out of the rain. You worship the imposter and hate Palin and nothing nor anyone is ever going to change your braindead mind. |
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She actually lives in a very nice house built by the same guy that did the work on Ted Stevens house. The same guy that also build the Wasila Sports Complex.
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Sounds like a pretty racist statement to me from the intellectual from usc."No one I know, or have ever met, married to the same husband, has a baby and a grandchild who are a year apart. That is trailer trash or ghetto time.
Sarah is trailertrash cuz she lives where trailers are considered mansions." Wow Coldplay the ghetto you are talking about is that like near the usc campus? The residents are they like OJ. It is nice to know rich kids never get pregnant never do drugs just the poor trailer trash,white or black in coldplays own words. |
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"This woman has the moral compass of Caligula."
What was the 'moral compass' of Caligula and how does it apply to Sarah Palin? You make silly statements with ease but it is quite impossible to make sense out of what you say. |
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"has 2 Dem Senators and one Dem governor. and only one congressperson" yes we do and I know them all personally. |
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We have residents here just not as many idiots as you have in California. |
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opinion surprised me. For the first time I found him to be lacking in his reasoning ability.
He stressed that 'now Palin will be unable to handle all the demands made on her private citizen time'? So what? She will pick and choose where to speak and promote the Rep agenda and her fans etc., will just have to be patient and get in line. That kind of opportunity is a good thing. Other weak points Karl made, depicts he is out of step with the way it really is! Get with it Rove! |
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getting to yall! I know you can't adequately respond, so go for it, give it your best feeble shot! I consider the source and your repetitious lightweight mindthink doesn't bother me, Yes, I am a southern bell and I have your number, Ha!
Goodnight for now, SEE YA as the great Sarah Palin would say! Got a problem with that also, small minded Obamacan'ts? |
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comparing the left's treatment of him to Sarah Palin. His guest pointed out that Bill's wife and kids were never attacked. I've never seen pictures of his family. Have you?
Then Karl Rove pointed out that political leaders are attacked all of the time, of course, we have never seen pictures of Kove's wife and son either.
Special cases deserve special treatment. so I'm going to trust Palin knows what she's doing. |
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and the next I know I'm posted. Oh well, time to call it a day. One dinner drink too many, ha! |
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the kids are off limits. There is no excuse for the mocking of a leaders , They are innocent victims of cruel, mean Spirited ugly Americans! Nothing Sarah and her family have ever done to deserve such vile, hateful unfounded persecution. I don't want to hear the feeble excuse that other politicians have beebn so treated. You could fill a thimble with the heaR THEY HAVE ENCOUNTERED AND WRITE A BOOK OF ALL THE LIES AND CRUEL THINGS SAID AGAINST THE pALIN FAMILY! |
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"I finally realized that you are not for real. You say the silliest things."
Yeah, I'm coming to the conclusion that Miss Vicky is a parody also; nobody's that much of an airhead. I thought it might be a clue that she took the name of Tiny Tim's child bride, but I see now that her name was spelled "Vicki." |
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said getting pregnant out of wedlock was 'moral. Thats's just your faulty perception thinking that! In todays world it is aceepted, for the most part, that doesn't make it desirable or right but that's just the way things go. Women have been raised to marry much later in life. 'Teens' don't usually wed and become domesticated home makers like before, instead they gain a long time education and marry much later. Thus, it is not realistic to expect the young to remain celibate in to their twentys. No matter how much the Mother warns a daughter to be protected, they are often careless and sometimes accidents happen! The worst that can happen is to kill the unborn. At least give it up for adoption if you can't provide a good home! |
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'mistress', what a harsh word! How judgmental of you! LOL. Only the far right can judge, don't you know that? They screen morality because I guess their god messed up by creating gay people. |
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In case you hadn't heard, allowing gays to marry would redefine marriage, which for the GOP has come to mean a man, a woman, and a mistress. |
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I finally realized that you are not for real. You say the silliest things. Like having an out of wedlock baby is moral. But I suppose you think gay men getting married isn't moral, right? What a joke you are. |
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I personally took great offense at Palin entering the national spotlight knowing that she would be exposing her daughter to widespread derision and ridicule, and THEN asking the media to respect her family's privacy.
If she had any respect for her own daughter's privacy she would have turned down McCain's request.
Again, putting her daughter in that position was absolutely reprehensible, to beg for privacy afterwards was the height of hypocrisy.
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attitude, that having babies out of wedlock is so immoral. As long as the baby can be raised in a happy, financially secured home it is not a curse, as you seem to think! You should get your priorities straight. Killing the unborn is
dead wrong, giving life to a baby that is loved is a blessing. The young do their natural thing and in today's world, teen intimacy outside of marriage is the norm. That doesn't make it right but that's just the way it is! |
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Resigning a post AFTER winning an election or being appointed to the Cabinet is a time honored tradition on both sides of the political aisles.
How many Govenors can you name who have walked away from the position entrusted to them by the voters of their state mid-term?
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Ol' "Cut and Run" Palin is an insult to our brave soldiers out fighting the BushWars. They don't quit when the going gets tough, and neither should the civilian "leaders" who sentence them to fight. Yah, she supports the BushWars, you betcha. What a weirdo. Not average, not middle-class, just weird. Watch out for a murder-suicide thingy when the Embezzlement Rap comes down, you betcha. |
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your imagined Palin mistakes, etc,? Dem/Lib nay'sayers and anti-woman/Palin spinners are full of it. She is clever enough to know where to fight her battles and how to help the America she loves the most! Alaska will be left in good hands with her continuing guidance. We didn't hear you folks accuse Obama of abandoning the ship when he spent most of his time, as Senator, campaigning for the Presidency. He even kept taking the salary which he only gave lip service too. Lady Sarah, saves tax payers money, something the spendthrift Obama doesn't care about! |
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No one I know, or have ever met, married to the same husband, has a baby and a grandchild who are a year apart. That is trailer trash or ghetto time.
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What was Palin supposed to do? How about not accepting McCain's offer? Did anyone hold a gun to her head and force her to enter the nation spotlight with a pregnant, unmarried, teenage daughter in tow?
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Whatever his failings, at the very least it cannot be denied that his 30 plus years of service...much of it under the glare of withering critism...has demonstrated that Biden is hardly the type of flake to fold apart under pressure.
Palin is a joke, the Left has known it all along, and now she has made it clear through her abandonment of the people of Alaska. |
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pregnant daughter, get real. She is not a devious, misleading politician like you know who!
At least Lady Sarah has a grandbaby to enjoy etc., instead of it being aborted, destroyed for convenience, like the mainstream Democrats advocate/desire! God forgive the anti-Christ folks who don't value the unborns right to life! Just think Obama wouldn't be here if his unmarried Mother had aborted! Amen |
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"But I also underestimated the viciousness with which she has been attacked. That deserves defending."
What a joke! Compared to what John Kerry and Bill Clinton went through, Sarah Palin got the red carpet treatment.
I agree, Palin took some cheap shots, but it is beyond funny to hear the rough'n'tough right wingers whining about how the media treated her. |
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"Vald E when you put words in my mouth
please try to get em right!"
I copied and pasted, show me what isn't accurate. Had to split it in two because of Town Hall's limitations, which is why there are ... ellisions in there. But I didn't put any words in your mouth. |
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please try to get em right! You defend the indefensible, enough already. I give up on you for now at least, ha! Ex Democrat |
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...are you actually saying that Ol' Slow Joe was a better pick than Palin? R U kidding me?
Palin has her weaknesses, but compared to Joe B?
Here's what's funny. Remember back to the campaign? Joe, who received less than 2% in the POTUS race, was tapped to give poor little BHO foreign policy gravitas?
Palin might have big hair (it's not that big). Biden has plugs. Give me the real deal any day.
And IF Palin had been elected VP and said and done all the coo-coo things Biden has, she would be ridden out of town on a rail. |
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are uncalled for and will not go without a flag, if you continue to be vulgar! Change of sub-ject. Your unrealistic words that Bristol wasn't Mothered right, because she got pregnant, indicts so many good American families. That's just the way it is silly man! Out of wedlock pregnancy happens in the best of families. It's a good thing she didn't marry the low life boyfriend with the drug addict Mother. Now that's a Mother you should worry about, not the Christian Lady Sarah who has a fine family! |
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...Palin should have never accepted the VP nom considering that she had just given birth, never mind Trigg had special needs. And putting her unmarried pregnant daughter on the world stage is something I would never do world's w/o end.
It also appears her husband in not Mr. Mom, but works outta town on the North Slope.
But I also underestimated the viciousness with which she has been attacked. That deserves defending. If she had been supported in her feminist ambitions rather than gratuitously attacked, she might have been successful--at least in AK.
There are good reasons to believe that Palin is not up to being POTUS, but neither are BHO and especially Biden. Fairly criticize a candidate, but don't utterly destroy.
I'm not saying you are one of the destroyers, but there are many out there who are.
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Are you seriously suggesting that if McCain had won and we had found ourselves with this woman a heartbeat away from the Presidency it would have been acceptable for her to resign her position because she was unhappy with the way she was being treated?
Ridiculous!
Sarah Palin was never anything more that big hair and scripted soundbites, and as an apparently conservative woman you should be embarassed that the Right foisted off this bit of fluff as anything resembling a serious political operative. |
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Governor Palin unlike so many politicians gets it, she got into office to serve the people of her great state. When she realized she could no longer do that effectively she decided to do the best thing for her state and step aside. The Founding Fathers would be proud.
No matter what she does she will continue to be berated by the MSM and liberals. They will continue to fear her and this time they better. Baracuda has taken the gloves off- watch out! |
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"That doesn't satisfy you sexist and Lib/Dem Palin haters. You want her to bleed and slander the daughters forver and to remain a glutton for punishment. No other successful, innocent leader has been so attacked, persecuted and for no good reason!"
If I had a dollar for every one of your incorrect assumptions, well, I could go to Starbucks.
I really don't care what happens to Sarah Palin. No, I don't want her to "bleed," not in the slightest. You are utterly wrong about the only successful, innocent leader being "persecuted," as I have been demonstrating here all day.
All you show is that you, like Sarah, can dish it out, but you can't take it. You're not so tough, are you? Liberals laugh at you, and you shriek that they're trying to hurt you. Liberals beg Sarah Palin to run for president, and you say that they're "afraid" of her. Can you spell "projection"? |
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longer in the kitchen. The sexist and many Muslims, Lord it over the weaker sex. The female should be seen and not heard huh? The mess you men have made of things, us gals sure can't do any worse, Ha! You need all the help you can get and Sarah has the answers. Some people don't know a good thing when they have it, Ha! Go bright and solid Lady Sarah. |
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"Sara slandered with false vicious attacks."
Then she will sue, no? She's a public figure, so she has to prove actual malice, so I doubt she'll sue. And if she does sue, that opens up here ENTIRE life, family, med records, you name it, to discovery in the civil suit. So, sarah suing for defamation? Me thinks, not so much. LOL.
I couldn't 'underestimate' Sarah...I never gave her a second thought as ever being a threat. Once she was named because and only because she has a vag0ina, once she opened her piehole to speak, she was never a threat. It is only a matter of opinion as to how many votes she lost for McCain, not if she lost votes. p.s. Sarah will NEVER be a private citizen again...she's public forever.
KG--Sarah couldn't do it all. She didn't care enough for Bristol to make sure that the dear girl was being abstinent. She took hours that might have helped that little baby of hers, but she couldn't be bothered to go deliver the little guy. She fails as a mommy, and as a governor. I'm not 'anti-Palin'. I hope she remains the frontrunner...Obama will win with 70% of the vote.
Feminism means equal pay for equal work. No discrimination simply based on gender. Kids need 2 parents--I don't hear anyone ragging on men who are workaholics. |
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i guess it helps to think of one's political opponents as so consumed with hatred that they lost the ability to think clearly. in fact, most of us look at Sarah Palin as we would any demagogue--with disdain. it is what she deserves, although i can see how it fuels even more resentment from her admirers. |
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false vicious attacks. I guess you think it's ok to persecute and verbally abuse her and the daughters. Palin has bigger fish to fry. Don't underestimate the strong, patriotic, Christian lady Sarah! She deserves better and will find it, now that they enemy can't fund their hateful unwarranted attacks with tax payers money. If they go after Palin, a private citizen, they have to pay their own money and answer to grateful Americans who respect her and who know a good thing when they have one. We have your back Sarah, more power to you. |
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It's faux femmies that eat their young. Or least hang them out to dry while pursuing who knows what stupid career.
Early on one of the complaints against Palin was was putting her career above her children. We see how that worked out.
Now that's she being a true female and making decisions in the best interest of family, people still complain.
I'm no Palin apologist, but the anti-Palin loons need some challenging. Hatred addles the brain.
It's the faux feminists that are willing to sacrifice family for self. Is that your definition of feminism? Self uber alles? |
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I'd like to have a dollar for every wrong conclusion and assumption you make, regarding Lady Sarah! She turned the other cheek and for the most part was a good sport and just took the demeaning, nasty unwarranted lies in silence. That doesn't satisfy you sexist and Lib/Dem Palin haters. You want her to bleed and slander the daughters forver and to remain a glutton for punishment. No other successful, innocent leader has been so attacked, persecuted and for no good reason! Finally, she has put her attackers on the spot and showed them up for the trouble makers they are who have spent a fortune of our tax dollars on a prejudiced, unworthy pursuit! Pathetic Dem Libs, now what are you going to do? Your victim isn't taking it without a chance to speak her mind freely. She will not be held accountable, while protecting herself outside of the Governors role. It's past time for Palin to move forward and leave her enemies in the dust. She soon will be a private citizen and the rules will be in her favor. She leaves her Office in good hands. |
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has 2 Dem Senators and one Dem governor. and only one congressperson. |
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issues. If Montana actually had any residents, they would have issues too. |
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it means you have to be stronger, less sensitive, etc, than a man. She's no feminist. She's a typical faux feminist....tough until criticized, then she whines that she's being picked on. |
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"Do you remember ... Susan McDougal... ? ? ?"
Of course I remember, but I'm afraid I don't know what your point is, and I sure wouldn't want Diane to think I'm beating a dead horse.
"But wrong is wrong as is what is going on with Palin. I hope you can own that."
I hope I don't have to own anything having to do with Sarah Palin, ever, thank you very much.
Palin had a fairly minor personnel scandal going on in Alaska. She was more than happy to make very provocative statements during the campaign, like the "real Americans" out in the small towns, or the Democrats encouraging terrorism. But when anybody called her on it, suddenly the world was unfair and poor Sarah was being treated badly.
Palin ran on an image of toughness and no nonsense. Good for her. If she's so tough, why do a few jokes and some media attention make her fly off the handle? Would you like me to Google up some of the things that were said about Hillary and Chelsea Clinton? Did Hillary make a big scene and announce she was quitting? If Chelsea Clinton was pregnant and unmarried at 17, do you think there MIGHT have been a few late-night jokes about it?
Palin did take some cheap hits. Name a national politician that hasn't. Show me where you complained when Rush Limbaugh called 13-year-old Chelsea a "dog."
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OK, let's be 100% objective here.
"The onslaught of political attacks is being launched against current 1)Governor Sarah Palin,
2)the First Family, 3)State-employed colleagues.
These baseless accusations have cost Alaska more than $1 million in public monies to defend,
and Governor Palin has incurred more than half a million dollars in personal debt defending her official actions as Governor."
Most of these charges came up before Palin was ever nominated as vice president, and before any national liberals had even heard of her.
Why do you say they're "baseless"? Have they all been thrown out? It sounded like there was plenty of evidence for at least a hearing.
I don't think the public "monies" were spent for her defense, I think it was just the administrative and investigative costs. Palin is responsible for her own legal expenses, as is any politician accused of wrongdoing - and last I looked, neither party had a monopoly on that.
"Gov. Palin does not want to taxpayers to pay,
the staff and state employees to have to pay
it is not just about her. Once she leaves office they will not be able to keep her distracted and nit pick for "violatons.""
If she is indeed formally accused, she will continue to run up legal bills. If the charges are "baseless," why would she resign? Do you think every politician who resigns because of "baseless" charges is noble and thinking only of the public? |
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It is 4:30PM in Texas and I've got to go.
I belong to 'Prayer warriors for Sarah" and we pray every morning for her and her family and her supporters.
Thanks for your support today. |
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"Me thinks you protest this subject way too much. There's gotta be an underlying reason you keep repeating such a vile post and it probably isn't a good one."
RONNA is complaining about somebody posting the same thing all the time?
You're absolutely right, I keep repeating it. The common refrain here is that the liberals are "trolls" who only want to disrupt the discussion. Meanwhile, you have people like Arch and NeoConSum posting flat-out pornography and NOBODY BREATHES A WORD.
So as long as you keep posting the same thing, so will I. Rubbing your family values in it, so to speak. |
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Your state sounds beautiful. Sounds like you don't have a bunch of liberal fools who want to change everything that is good about it. Now how about CPL tell us how great the state of CA is doing lately. |
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usual nonsense. We will be able to rub it all in their faces when Sarah unleashes her claws. Maybe then Vlad and the rest will cease with bringing up past targets of reprise. |
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As you see Vlad continues to beat a dead horse. Usual nonsense. |
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not Aptil22. I need to slow down. |
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That really hurts me , calling my state small. What should I do, First thing I'll do is drive to town look no traffic jams, nice. Glad I don't have to go through that armpit of a neighborhood around staples center and usc. I might stop to breathe some fresh air down by the river, coldplay you can stop by the scenic la river or san gabriel river we know you can't breath the air down there,just play along, break off a hunk of that brown crap you try to breath down there and tell me how sad it is for me to live in a small state. |
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Good try and some good points, but Vlad lives in never-never-give-in-land with Obama and his minions. |
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Vlad can you try to just be objective for at least this one post.
The onslaught of political attacks is being launched against current 1)Governor Sarah Palin,
2)the First Family, 3)State-employed colleagues.
These baseless accusations have cost Alaska more than $1 million in public monies to defend,
and Governor Palin has incurred more than half a million dollars in personal debt defending her official actions as Governor.
Gov. Palin does not want to taxpayers to pay,
the staff and state employees to have to pay
it is not just about her. Once she leaves office they will not be able to keep her distracted and nit pick for "violatons"
Do you remember how "Susan McDougal is one of the few people who served prison time as a result of the Whitewater controversy, although fifteen individuals were convicted of various federal charges. Her refusal to answer "three questions" for a grand jury about whether President Bill Clinton lied in his testimony during her Whitewater trial led to her a jail sentence of 18 months for contempt of court. This comprised most of the total 22 months she spent in incarceration." ? ? ?
I never voted for Clinton but please believe me in that I did think that that whole witchhunt was wrong. I even got in an argument with a minister about it!
But wrong is wrong as is what is going on with Palin. I hope you can own that. |
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Vlad can you try to just be objective for at least this one post.
The onslaught of political attacks is being launched against current 1)Governor Sarah Palin,
2)the First Family, 3)State-employed colleagues.
These baseless accusations have cost Alaska more than $1 million in public monies to defend,
and Governor Palin has incurred more than half a million dollars in personal debt defending her official actions as Governor.
Gov. Palin does not want to taxpayers to pay,
the staff and state employees to have to pay
it is not just about her. Once she leaves office they will not be able to keep her distracted and nit pick for "violatons"
Do you remember how "Susan McDougal is one of the few people who served prison time as a result of the Whitewater controversy, although fifteen individuals were convicted of various federal charges. Her refusal to answer "three questions" for a grand jury about whether President Bill Clinton lied in his testimony during her Whitewater trial led to her a jail sentence of 18 months for contempt of court. This comprised most of the total 22 months she spent in incarceration." ? ? ?
I never voted for Clinton but please believe me in that I did think that that whole witchhunt was wrong. I even got in an argument with a minister about it!
But wrong is wrong as is what is going on with Palin. I hope you can own that.
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'glutton for punishment'. She has more important fish to fry and is protecting her family in the process. How pathetic that the evil minded Li/Dems have nothing better to do to uplift our Country and save our tax dollars, then to shamelessly persecute a decent, innocent great lady and all American family! Go Lady Sarah we have your back. Ex Democrat |
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since you come from a minor state, I frankly don't care what you think. Were she ever the nominee, her loss would make McGovern's look like a close election.
But keep pushing her. She can win in Iowa, and maybe in some of the southern states, and you can put her up there to lose big. That will at least let the grown up GOP types take the party back from the right wing crazies. |
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with a name like that I'll bet many denards you're an 'Obama' supporter. good guess? Just sayin'.... |
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"Sarah is toast" looks like a Seven course meal to me. |
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she's as deep as a piece of aluminum foil. |
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Bring on the strawberry jam!! |
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I have never expected anything out of those you refer to merely as 'Drones' which is being exceedingly and unecessarily kind to a bunch of buffoons who aren't smart enough to come in out of the Obama reign. |
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I realized that as I was reading your post. |
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Does anyone want to interpret Asad's post?
Too many liberal fail-bots are posting nonsense here. |
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not focused. There is more then one view and coverage with the Bush Doctrine but then it takes an aware open mind etc., to realize that. Charlies interview question was less then clear on that subject and after Sarah had to ask him to be specific, he finally zeroed in on the one he was seeking an answer too. You and the rest of the one'eyed, misinformed Palin haters conveniently overlook the reality and take things out of context but what's new?! |
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"I can see Russia from my house" was a quote from Tina Fey, NOT Sarah Palin.
Stay ignorant, Charles. You're a GOOD useful idiot!!!!
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You can be a spokesman for many great things , but as you know young people don't always follow good advise. So how is this a knock on Palin, her child didn't listen to her. Well Charles thinks we should be LOLing at Sarah. Isn't Charles special? You have a book on parenting Charles, what is it called? |
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"OK libtard Dads. How would you like me as a conservative, to pen1s slap your daughter as she satisfies a couple of more hairless men? How would you like me to fist your little girl while she suckles at the genitals of strangers?" That's from her pal Arch and, as Diane will tell you, those who don't disown people's comments support them.
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Me thinks you protest this subject way too much. There's gotta be an underlying reason you keep repeating such a vile post and it probably isn't a good one. |
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As the saying goes, life is tough but it is even tougher when you are stupid. Hey Sarah (and her supporters), did you realize that the probability of someone watching you is proportional to the stupidity of your actions? |
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there, eh? I just get sick of all you libs turning every subject around to place blame for anything you can think of on the cons. I don't give a FF about Clinton. YOU jumped into the fray so take your lumps like a real man (?) |
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"Vlad wants it to be about Clinton."
OK, I plead guilty. The continent is sinking a half inch ever year from the weight of computer servers backing up arguments about Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky and, yes, I have contributed to that decade-old foolishness. So sue me.
To get back to the point . . .
Poor Sarah has run up legal bills defending against supposedly phony charges. So she's quitting. Will that make her legal bills go away? I don't know. Should politicians always quit when confronted with phony charges, rather than running up legal bills? I don't know. Seems to be what you guys think. |
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Once there was an island with two tribes. One could only tell a lie, and one could only tell the truth. You come to a fork in the road and a tribesman is standing there, but you don't know which tribe . . .
Oh, never mind.
"If you want to learn about Vlad just ask Arch. he posts a lot in the evening. He can give you some background on Vlad."
If you want to learn about Arch, look up the extensive documentation of his lies right here at Town Hall.
If you want to learn about Diane, this is her idea of responsible political discourse: "OK libtard Dads. How would you like me as a conservative, to pen1s slap your daughter as she satisfies a couple of more hairless men? How would you like me to fist your little girl while she suckles at the genitals of strangers?" That's from her pal Arch and, as Diane will tell you, those who don't disown people's comments support them.
You want to lie down with that dog, don't complain about fleas. |
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And your man is so qualified he can't put a sentence together without his teleprompter. Did you notice Sarah didn't have one? |
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Vlad wants it to be about Clinton. It is easier for him not to think about Obama's incompetence or how ready the country will be for Sarah in 2012. |
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"Oh, Vladimir not STILL arguing Clinton's guilt of having sex with Monica Lewinsky are you?"
Someday someone at Town Hall is going to actually READ one of my posts and UNDERSTAND it and RESPOND COHERENTLY. And that will be a bad day, because I will fall out of my chair and hit my head.
1. No, I'm not "arguing Clinton's guilt of having sex." Having sex isn't a crime, and the conservatives told us over and over again "it wasn't about sex."
2. I have absolutely no interest in coming up with a definition of "sex." I'm one of the few people who actually paid attention to the Jones deposition, where the extended discussion about the definition of sex was at the same time tedious and revealing of Jones's real objective. But that's ancient history.
3. The only point I've tried to make - it has NOTHING to do with me, and nobody has even tried to refute it - is that Clinton, Lewinsky, and Tripp all agreed that Bill and Monica did not have sex. You want to claim otherwise, take it up with them.
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does not! Her record and behavior have been something to be admired. She deserves credit but instead, gross distortions of the truth prevail. Indeed, the Prez is not a terrorist and has been disrespected for things he didn't deserve. I consider the source and on both sides their are thoughtless empty'heads. I refer to the Gov., as Lady Sarah because of her class, good manners and high ideals! |
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Well how about the fact Obama basically 'quit' being a Senator and began campaigning for President on the TAXPAYER'S DIME immediately after being seated as a US Senator? How about the fact that Hillary 'quit' her position as Senator to become HIS Secretary of state? How about the fact that Biden 'quit' and left his Senate seat to become Vice President for HIM? - all so they could further advance their and HIS agendas. But that's all right? You pathetic, whining weiners! You sickening Liberal scabs of society are the biggest joke of all time. |
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"P E R G U R Y !!!!
By definition....False swearing: voluntary violation of an oath, either by swearing to what is untrue or by ommission to do what has been promised "under oath".
"I never had sexual relations with that woman". Did this in a sworn deposition."
Let me give you a little clue: don't give up your day job for law school.
When was Bill Clinton charged with "pergury"?
When did he plead guilty to the charge?
When was he convicted of the charge?
In which deposition did he state, "I never had sexual relations with that woman"?
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Maybe she could be the next spokeswoman for Abstinance Education ! LOL!!!! |
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Try to mix in some real news once in awhile, SNL and the Daily show are not real news shows. |
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Ignore the likes of Vlad and CPL. They are really just a waste of time. Most of the time I find that they do not read a post or have a worthwhile discussion. It is best to just ignore them. If you want to learn about Vlad just ask Arch. he posts a lot in the evening. He can give you some background on Vlad. CPL is just a liberal loon. |
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Bush didn't know WTF his doctrine was. Next! |
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"Lady" Sarah??? Oh come on -- enough with that worship nonesense, You complain about the libs calling Obama a messiah and look at ya'll!! She's what's "good and what's right about America"?? Yes, ACCORDING TO HER FOLLOWERS. Same as people who supported Obama -- they thought he was what was good and right. For goodness sake -- right wing pundits accused Obama of terrorist activities, said he hated the U.S. and his goal in life was to destroy the country!!! Running for Pres. is a nasty businss and if you're not up to the challenge, and you can't make judgments about what you fight and what you let go, then get out. She was being eaten alive. No one could fault her for backing out. So, she leaves the office she was elected to with 15 or 16 months to go - not just a few weeks or months, and she thinks in 3 1/2 years she's going to get back into the game? No way is that going to happen. By then, someone else in the party in an elected office, will be up front and ready to go. If she couldn't take the heat as a governor of a rural state, how can anyone trust that she can run the U.S.? Better she should try to help that disabled son of hers and her daughter with the baby. |
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arguing Clinton's guilt of having sex with Monica Lewinsky are you? A lizard under a rock knows what they did in the oval office, and it WAS sex. Uh, you aren't spending so much time on Th these days that you've forgotten what sex actually is have you? |
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This is a woman who ran for VP and she couldn't even give an opinion on the Bush Doctrine. Why? Because she didn't even know WTF it was.
Her foreign policy was "I can see Russia from my house"
Remember the Thanksgiving Turkey Slaughter interview?
This woman is either crazy or just plain stupid - or both.
Her appeal is limited to the 20% that still think Bush did a great job.
100% of Dems would LOVE for her to run in 2012 |
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Did you get your ticket to staples center, so you can mourn, hell regular people die have a funeral and get buried. Once your gone your gone, no need for the jackson 24/7show. If you liked him say a prayer if you didn't say good riddance, see how quick that was 2 seconds and I'm done, what can I do with the other 23 hours and 58 seconds on Jacksons super spectacular once in a life time mega star studded funeral and BET Awards show, I'll just smile and live. |
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Vland thinks the taxpayers should bail out Palin.
Thats nice vlad
but as the Gov. herself would say you can "keep the change"
She will not waste the peoples time and money just to keep the title of Gove. while the libs attempt to keep her too busy and distracted to do the job the people hired her to do.
I know if it is not porkulus you don't get it.
I know if it really is about what is in the best interest of the people you don't get it but thats okay... most people here do and her support is growing stronger with every attack in the media and on the blogs.
By 2012 the people will be so fed up with Obama's incompetence they will be glad to have Palin as an option.
Palin/Huckabee 2012 |
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I guess you are a liberal because I have always been told that only liberals play the victim card. I have been told that only liberals blame everyone else for their failures. I have been told that conservatives play the blame game. I have been told that conservatives don't quit, they finish their job. Sarah Palin said the words that I copied in my post. The funny thing is since that time she has been blaming and whining about the media. Now she blames the media as to why she quit. Instead on standing up for what conservatives claim as a conservative value, you are doing the same thing, it's the medias fault.
As far as your comment about me hating women, I guess that is what a liberal like yourself would say to someone that doesn't believe in blaming anyone else for I can't handle. |
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ragging on Palin are GOP-ers. We on the left are just having a laugh. |
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we pay for the first lady's shoes etc.,? I compared how the media etc., jumped Lady Sarah, during the VP campaign, for her wardrobe. I know why the non objective liberal media has remained silent about the excessive self-serving expenditures of their king and queen! Double standard as usual! |
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"Do we participate in a politics of cynicism or a politics of hope?"
Barack Obama quote from his speech at 2004
Thanks to all the libs, trolls and Palin bashers for showing us where Potus, his supporters and Party stand on that one.
No one will be fooled by his rhetoric in 2012.
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OK...got to go watch my nephew play some ball. Play nice now! LOL |
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What CHARGE did Bill Clinton PLEAD GUILTY to?
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OK, just cause I like you:
P E R G U R Y !!!!
By definition....False swearing: voluntary violation of an oath, either by swearing to what is untrue or by ommission to do what has been promised "under oath".
"I never had sexual relations with that woman". Did this in a sworn deposition.
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"Michelle is good to herself, wearing five hundred doller casual shoes to speak and raise money for the poor."
If you think Michelle Obama actually paid for those $500 shoes, you must think that NBA players must spend an awful lot of money on their shoes, too. And I have a gold brick for sale. For you - really cheap. |
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"Thanks Trolls we couldn't have done it without you."
I wouldn't mind the continued misunderstanding of the term "troll" (I've been called lots worse) if, just once, a Town Hall conservative or two would call out the very real troll who is making a very real effort to capsize this entire site. |
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thank the lord and greyhound she's gone. Now get back to more important issues, like the michael jackson funeral, good lord anything. |
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"Clinton DID have "sex with that woman"
Oral "sex" is "sex"
Well, Bill and Monica and Linda and Newt disagree with you: go talk to them.
"These baseless accusations have cost Alaska more than $1 million in public monies to defend, and Governor Palin has incurred more than half a million dollars in personal debt defending her official actions as Governor."
How much did the baseless accusations against Clinton cost the government? (hint: more than a million) How much did they cost the Clintons? (hint: more than half a million).
And are you really saying that when people make "baseless" charges against politicians that the best thing they can do is resign their office?
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I do love it when conservatives accuse anyone of spewing hate and intolerance. It's the irony of it all that makes me tingle. Of course conservatives only care about "intolerance" or "hate" as it relates to someone like Sarah Palin, certainly not homosexuals who they don't want to be able to marry, or racial minorities when it comes to just about anything, for example. In fact, aren't conservatives usually found to be complaining about political correctness anytime anyone uses phrases like "hate" and "intolerance"? |
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"After months of denials, including in a videotaped legal testimony, Clinton admitted in August of 1998 that he had had a sexual relationship with the young woman during the time of her internship."
Honestly, did I miss the announcement that it's Amateur Night at Town Hall?
Let's try this once more, and try not to move your lips while you read it:
What CHARGE did Bill Clinton PLEAD GUILTY to? Admitting a dalliance is not pleading guilty in court. |
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picture. By the way, we're not in the kitchen
these days and we're not going silently into the night, Ha! Regardless, male or female, no innocent politician should take being dumped on without making waves etc,.. Actually, the bright, hard working, successful Gov., Palin has turned the other cheek for the most part and it's past time to fist up and take the ingrates and unjust opponents to task! She is showing the enemy up for the evil minded, unfair biased losers they are! What have they to show for their hugh waste of tax payers millions? If she has spent money on those who support her plans, they all do, especially the spendthrift Obama Administration and Congress. They buy their votes at our expense! MrIndependent I think you fear that a stong woman will hold power over you? Grow up and get over your ego! |
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family man>" sez juan mccain. His campaign ended with those FOOLISH words.
Here's reformation, reformation, & revolution that Our Founding Fathers supported:
1) Advertise and Promote the Fact that you are forming a Grand Jury in Blogs, Local Newspapers and Community Organizations.
2) Form the Grand Jury and select a Foreman.
3) Select a Private Attorney General to make Presentments to Grand Jury, if local DA refuses to make presentments.
4) Select a convenient Meeting Place.
5) Communicate with all Citizens who have criminal information to present.
6) Schedule presentments by said Citizens.
7) Subpoena documents from Government Offices and Officials.
8) Schedule presentment of said Documents to Grand Jury by Grand Jury Attorney General.
9) Have Grand Jury Attorney General present said Documents to Grand Jury.
10) After investigation and deliberation is completed, vote and issue a True Bill (Indictment) or No True Bill.
11) Announce all Indictments to the Press.
12) Serve the Indictment on the Judiciary for the Issuance of Arrest Warrants.
L_Patriot@yahoo.com
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slaveholders in America today are the Democratic Party. "Pay for Play". You vote...we set you up with some crumbs and promise you that you won't be poor anymore. Next election..we do it all over again.
Funny thing is that poor people are still poor and government promises are never kept.
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They owned farms, slaves, etc. The slaves worked for a living.
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At that time slavery was the norm. However, they did work hard. Something this generation of politicians couldn't fathom. Actually, the slaves worked for room and board. They didn't get paid.
Most of the southern slaveholders were Democrats.
Let's see....have to get the healthcare thingy done cause they go on vacation in AUGUST! What do they work...3 days a week? |
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the vicious allegations would never stop. The greedy Piranha which IS the liberal masses with their sick lust for blood are trembling in their boots with fear of this little woman with the big heart. If she were no threat to their nefarious cause, they would have no time for her...that is very telling at the very least. |
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What did you expect? These are not virtuous, independent, thinking human beings. These are Obama Drones, they do not think for themselves, they just do what Dumbo tells them to. You cannot have a rational discussion with an Obama Drone, because they are completely under the control of Dumbo, there is no rationality, just sheer obedience to their master Dumbo. |
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fight fire with fire. As Gov., she has to pay out of her pocket, while her attackers pay nothing to slander her etc,. As leader of all Dems and Reps the President has an agenda to follow and others fight the good fight so that he can stay on target. A President is sheilded, other then to give testimony. The Presidents time is not tied up because he has numerous forces to work things out. Gov., Palin has only her small staff. They can't handle the Governors business with all the invalid clains that require/demand a response and full atten-tion. Yes, attacks on the Obamas are massive and they bring most of it on themselves! What specific and founded activity has Lady Sarah and her children done to deserve such hatefulness etc,? The wise, strong Lady Sarah has other fish to fry and she can't be the best Governor with her hands tied! Palin is going on to bigger and better things! She is leaving her Gov. ,job in good hands! So big deal! Her baby will get more attention now and she will be freed up to fight the good fight.
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Part 2
You are not remotely interested in her quest for bringing about any "real change" of decency, respect and honor to the United States. You show contemptuous disprepect, and a blatant indifference of her service to the people. You ignore the fact that she worked diligently and tirelessly to bring about what is right and good for America because that is not important in your little world of Liberal mind control from your nefarious master and his evil minions.
In your pathetic, morbid little world of keyboards which no doubt are connectd directly to TH for the sole purpose of spewing vile rhetic, unsubstantiated by any facts, you indeed reflect your serious need for acceptance and appreciation which you obviously are not getting, but which is irrefutably the underlying cause for your misguided outlook on anything relevant or meaningful.
Your air of arrogance and superiority equates to a small-minded, petty, intolerant bunch of ignorant fools who will soon reap the harvest of the vicious seeds of hatred that you have so carelessly sewn.
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...on the subject of defending Palin and her daughters. His campaign used Palin to buoy up a lack luster candidate...
...and then dumped in her the trash. Even helped trash her. Despiscable.
What do you expect from a "gentlemen and an officer" who would dump one disabled wife and call his current lovely, generous and gracious wife a c---?
Remember that crass joke re: Chelsea Clinton?
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Addressing you supercilious villains relegates me to an uncomfortable position both mentally & physically, yet I must do what I must do.
Your inane vilification of Sarah Palin is a clearcut indication, to me anyway, of your elitist attitude, & is a continuation of your inconsiderate, unbending, odious behavior concerning anything to do with her. It constitutes borderline idolotry-worship for a Media-backed facade, named Barack Hussein Obama, & projects your disdain for anyone who might possibly be a threat to him in any way, at any time. (In other words, she scares the hell out of you.)
Your hatred for Palin is repugnant in it's content, onoxious, mean-spirited & cruel in it's intended purpose of attempting to degrade her before the masses. It is glaringly obvious that you don't have the character of bipartisanship, or the consideration of any semblance of decorum in your vicious uncalled-for attacks and ridicule of the woman. It can only be construed that you are incapable of giving her any credit for her accomplishments, or for having any compassion of her complicated situation. Instead, you support the elitist Media who will move heaven & earth to destroy her.
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of things leaves much to be desired. Why isn't the supposed to be 'peoples' man, Obama, not raising the issue of unfounded abuse to an innocent and popular politician and saving our tax dollars? Those involved in their Palin mug slinging, at a cost of over two hundred million are doing America a great disservice. Imagine, all that waste for no good reason! Obama, even McCain, should step up to the plate and strongly condemn the persecution of a decent, hard working Governor and her daughters. The duplicit President mentioned that children should be off limits one time and McCain hasn't had the discretion or sense of fairness to even mention it at all? Correct me if I missed it?! |
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Keep telling yourself that living large in socal and being an sc grad is the end all, and that higly ranked economy is just doing great, by the way did you get your IOU state tax refund yet. |
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Bob is just scared and now fantasizing to get the focus of Obama's incompetence and Porkulus.
By 2012 the libs will have us so in debt they will not have any money left to file bogus charges.
But keep the attacks and fantasies going.
It strengthens Sarah's support.
Her Facebook is now over 500.000 supporters.
Thanks Trolls we couldn't have done it without you.
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Fair or unfair, I think she does herself a disservice to even mention it. You gotta to plow through that. You have to know what you're getting into -- which, I say this with all due respect to her, and to her experience and to her passion for changing the status quo also -- but when I hear a statement like that coming from a woman candidate with any kind of perceived whine about that excess criticism or you know maybe a sharper microscope put on her, I think, 'man that doesn't do us any good' -- women in politics, women in general wanting to progress this country, I don't think it bodes well for her, a statement like that. Because, again, fair or unfair, it is there, I think that's reality, and I think it's a given. I think people can just accept that she is going to be under the sharper microscope. So be it. I mean, work harder, prove yourself to an even greater degree that you're capable, that you're going to be the best candidate, and that of course is what she wants us to believe at this point. So it bothers me a little bit hearing her bring that attention to herself on that level.
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"Why should Sarah Palin have to tie up a half a million dollars in legal fees to defend against 15 bogus suits against her? "
The major complaint against Palin was filed by ... Sarah Palin. |
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"as President, Sarah would have the financial support to fight back"
Using taxpayer money?
"and the enemy couldn't tie up her time and energy as they can a Governors."
Why not? The same general principles of executive privilege apply.
"She wouldn't have to endure the persecution of her family because the indiscreet, mean spirited, ugly Americans who did so would never get away with attacking the Presidents family in such a way"
I draw your attention to some of the things said on this web site about Michelle Obama. The constant stream of attacks on the president and first family -- all presidents -- are orders of magnitude more intense than anything Palin has seen.
If she can't stand up to the pressures of being governor of Alaska and VP candidate, there'd be nothing left of her but a wisp of smoke after a week as president. |
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We had a just justice system. Why should Sarah Palin have to tie up a half a million dollars in legal fees to defend against 15 bogus suits against her? This is the fault of 1) the immoral Democratic party that would do this in the first place, and 2)the stupid justice system that allows these lawsuits to go through so the person being sued has to pay. In Britain, when you sue and lose, you pay BOTH PARTIES court costs. They have a lot fewer lawsuits in Britain then they do here.
Shame on the Democrats for wasting not just Palins money but 2 million dollars in taxpayer money for allegation they KNEW were bogus. And shame on our justice system for allowing it. |
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RE:"Bob posts do you think Palin has resigned to get a real job?"
Please try to master scrolling down Bob. You can answer a lot of your own questions by doing that
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ov. Palin had the decency to resign and spare the people of her state the lost time and wasted money this onslaught of political attacks launched against her , the First Family of Alaska, and state-employed colleagues was costing.
These baseless accusations have cost Alaska more than $1 million in public monies to defend,
and Governor Palin has incurred more than half a million dollars in personal debt defending her official actions as Governor.
In her own words on Twitter
"We'll soon attach info on decision to not seek re-election... this is in Alaska's best interest, my family's happy... it is good, stay tuned" |
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Liz Trotta also said Hillary Clinton called for the assasination of Barack Obama. Therefore sane people don't put much stock into what Trotta says. |
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When they campaign they are not doing the job they are being paid for. BK's post of 2:24 sums it up. If you are committed to run for office that is all you should be doing. No more getting paid while you look for a new job. |
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"Our founding fathers worked for a living. They owned farms, etc."
They owned farms, slaves, etc. The slaves worked for a living.
Do you think Palin has resigned so she can get a real job? On a drill rig, say? |
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Republicans will lie, deflect, disregard, disrobe and dissemble - all on the taxpayer's dime - making sure to pleasure themselves or their own egos over the interests of the country. THERE'S the difference between Clinton and Palin, Ensign, Craig, Vitter, Sanford, Foley or Cunningham.
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Bwahahahaha. Yah, you keep drinking that Kool-aid! |
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***Trust me "The Northern Storm" is coming to the White House in 2012.***
sorry. it's not that i don't trust you--it's just that i choose to believe my lying eyes.
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the financial support to fight back and the enemy couldn't tie up her time and energy as they can a Governors. She wouldn't have to endure the persecution of her family because the indiscreet, mean spirited, ugly Americans who did so would never get away with attacking the Presidents family in such a way. Palin haters like to remind us of what Rush said about Chelsea and McCains unfortunate remark but those few words can't compare at all to the never ending undeserved garbage thrown at Lady Sarah and girls! Go Palin, the real deal! |
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REBob Munck asks: "If she becomes president and is attacked, will she then also have the decency to resign?"
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It is so sweet he is worried how she will handle the libs bogus attacks WHEN SHE IS POTUS in 2012
I think by the time the country kicks In-comp-obama out of office Sarah will be just fine but thanks for your vote of confidence and concerns |
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The Iquitarod!: Sarah Palin's Latest Arctic Sport |
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If the Demoncrats had any brains they would have left this women alone. Instead by constantly attacking her not only in the media but most vehemently by misusing Alaska's ethics laws against Palin in an attempt to financially break her so that she would not be able to play a role on the national scene in both 2010 and 2012. If they thought this would take her out of the game then they were badly mistaken, now Palin has pledged to take the fight to the Demoncrats in the lower 48 and she is now free from the main weapon the Dems were using against her. Thus to all the Demoncrats and RINOS who have attacked her I can only warn you here comes "The Northern Storm"!
Many pundits (most who were already dead set against her) have claimed that this unusual strategy will only harm her, but I think otherwise. I say this because now Palin is free to make as much money as she can in speaking fees, collect money for her PAC, campaign for Republicans nationally, become a leading voice against Obama, write her book, and build a powerful Republican machine for 2012.
As a former history major I can tell you that history remebers those who break the mold of how things are normally done. Great leaders break the rules, they are the true innovators and their opposition are always scratching their heads wondering what is coming next. I can assure you that the liberal media, Obama, the Demoncratic Party, the neo-conservatives who hate her, and any potential GOP candidate are scratching their heads wondering what Sarah Palin is going to do next. Sarah Palin is the kind of leader that history is going to remember, she is an innovator, she breaks the mold and defeats her enemies and crushes anything that stands in the way of her goals. Trust me "The Northern Storm" is coming to the White House in 2012.
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will she walk on water and raise the dead as well? |
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Something most politicians, including several of the Founding Fathers, have done for our entire history.
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Our founding fathers worked for a living. They owned farms, etc. They worked part of the time and then went home to work. Work is a foreign term to our current crop of politicians. Leech is appropriate.
"I believe that once someone decides to run for president or vice president that they should be made to resign their office."
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I guess that someone would include anyone. "Someone" should try working a regular job...announce to the world, including your current employer, that you want to apply for another position. Then on your current companies dollar, you don't do your current job for at least 2 years....still get paid....and then if NOT successful in securing the "other" job, come back to yoru current job and say....
NEVER MIND!
Yup..term limits and forced resignation. Put it on the line...salary, job, everything! |
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Today on FoxNews, journalist and Republican pundit; Liz Trotta slammed soon-to-be-ex Gov. Sarah Palin calling her "inarticulate and undereducated". Ms. Trotta also accused her of using "her good looks and her gender to get ahead in the world of politics". Furthermore, according to Ms. Trotta, Palin brought the attacks on herself |
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not very important states.
California is what, the fifth largest economy in the world? We send more money to DC than we get in return (as opposed to Alaska, which gets lots of fed money).
Don't believe what you read about our problems here. Our fourth of july parade was great, even the real Miss America (not that Prejean nutter) was the grandmarshall. The only group that was missing (literally) was the Palisades Republican members, they had a sign, but no marchers. Guess they were having a tea party for 1 or 2.
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been falsely accused and received a raw deal!
The Govs., successful, strong past record is completely ignored and instead they judge her based on what she doesn't say in an interview?! She can't fully express details in a time restraint short media coverage. For example, Palin didn't answer a question on what books she read?! Of course she has read many but to list all of them was not feasible. To name just a few, would promote one better then the others?! They have tried to make her look like an empty'head! She naturally mentioned she can see Russia from Alaska and they make something out of that even? Her enemies claimed she is a self-indulgent spendthrift because of her expensive VP wardrobe. She had no control over the Reps purchases for her to wear during the campaign. Actually, the down to earth, thrifty Lady Sarah shops in discount stores! She is one of us, unlike Prez Obama, the elitist who has had it good financially, except for the time period when the father abandoned him. Michelle is good to herself, wearing five hundred doller casual shoes to speak and raise money for the poor. The Obamas spend money like there is no tomorrow; yet not a peep from the same crowds, that persecute Sarah, about the Obamas extravagance and waste! Sad but true
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"Gov. Palin had the decency to resign and spare the people of her state the lost time and wasted money this onslaught of political attacks launched against her , the First Family of Alaska, and state-employed colleagues was costing."
If she becomes president and is attacked, will she then also have the decency to resign? |
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Bill Clinton lied under oath. It's not the crime it's the cover-up. The sex act was oral. Some might argue that oral sex isn't sex, but a sex organ doesn't fall into your mouth like a bug falls out of a tree into your hair.
Furthermore, if you are caught with a sex organ in your mouth it's difficult to explain how it got there without incriminating yourself.
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Bwahahahahahahahahahahahaha! Very good Marty! |
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"All took a paycheck while spending their time campaigning. They were not doing the work that we were paying for."
Something most politicians, including several of the Founding Fathers, have done for our entire history.
"If Palin has resigned to further her political aspirations I admire her honesty."
So you're saying that when she DIDN'T resign to run for VP, she was being dishonest?
"I believe that once someone decides to run for president or vice president that they should be made to resign their office."
So Bush should have resigned in 2003? Reagan should have resigned in 1985? Bush Sr. should have resigned as VP? W. should have resigned as Governor of Texas? McCain should have resigned as Senator? |
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Be patient they just don't get it.
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Bill Clinton lied under oath. It's not the crime it's the cover-up. The sex act was oral. Some might argue that oral sex isn't sex, but a sex organ doesn't fall into your mouth like a bug falls out of a tree into your hair.
Furthermore, if you are caught with a sex organ in your mouth it's difficult to explain how it got there without incriminating yourself. |
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Gov. Palin had the decency to resign and spare the people of her state the lost time and wasted money this onslaught of political attacks launched against her , the First Family of Alaska, and state-employed colleagues was costing.
These baseless accusations have cost Alaska more than $1 million in public monies to defend,
and Governor Palin has incurred more than half a million dollars in personal debt defending her official actions as Governor.
In her own words on Twitter
"We'll soon attach info on decision to not seek re-election... this is in Alaska's best interest, my family's happy... it is good, stay tuned" |
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Also you are right lying under oath is a crime. It can end with a jail sentence and in many cases does. I am so sick of hearing that Clinton really did not have sex and he was never convicted of anything. He was impeached and disbarred. Quite an accomplishment for a president.
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Do the talking points and nonsensical claims of socialism make the pain go away?
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Denial won't make it go away. If you think taking over businesses, removing executives from private businesses, government interference in private business isn't socialism, then you in complete denial.
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As we can plainly see by the mess that Obama is making, he wasn't ready either but the Socialists put him in anyway.
Welcome to the New North American Banana Republic!
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Do the talking points and nonsensical claims of socialism make the pain go away? Why is it that you can't talk about the abandonment of Alaska by Sarah Palin? When in doubt, change the subject! |
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"As we can plainly see by the mess that Obama is making, he wasn't ready either but the Socialists put him in anyway."
Funny part of this is that Palin was only running as VP. Obama was running with no experience to be president.
Also you are right lying under oath is a crime. It can end with a jail sentence and in many cases does. I am so sick of hearing that Clinton really did not have sex and he was never convicted of anything. He was impeached and disbarred. Quite an accomplishment for a president.
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Trolls come here to distract themselves from Obama's incomptence.
Trolls are afraid of Sarah in 2012.
You should not be.
She will never apologize for being an American.
She will make you proud to be Americans again.
She will restore your dignity & independence as a people.
She will walk the talk and show you the way. |
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That pretty much sums it up in coldplays own words "teeny unimportant state " I guess if your not from one of the really important states like California New York Illinois, you can just kiss off, God am I'm lucky to live in Montana, not many people here means not many fools coldplay. |
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As details continue to emerge from the failed McCain Palin campaign it becomes clearer and clearer that she was not ready for prime time then and as her bizarre announcement makes clear not ready for prime time now.
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As we can plainly see by the mess that Obama is making, he wasn't ready either but the Socialists put him in anyway.
Welcome to the New North American Banana Republic! |
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Why do some on the right continue to believe, with no evidence, that this resignation is the prelude some grand political move that will stun the left and delight the right? There is no strategy here. Even the "architect" can't fathom what is going on up in Wasilla. If Palin were such a political animal with the wiles to pull off something so extraordinary wouldn't she be VP now?
And why is this all the Mainstream Media or Liberals fault? How many conservatives jumped ship following Palin's disastrous performances during the campaign. Does everyone forget that she was hidden away with no press interaction for nearly a month? Does everyone forget that when she emerged from her "crash course in politics and policy" that she was still in over her head?
As details continue to emerge from the failed McCain Palin campaign it becomes clearer and clearer that she was not ready for prime time then and as her bizarre announcement makes clear not ready for prime time now. |
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this is about a less than one term governor of a teeny unimportant state who just quit. |
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Impeachment is the process.....
Process by which a legislative body can remove public officials from office. Impeachment comprises both the act of formulating an accusation or indictment against an official and the subsequent trial. In the United States, impeached officials who are convicted are removed from office, and may be subject to further criminal prosecution.
It happens with 2/3 vote in the Senate. He was found guilty in the Congress and acquitted in the senate. |
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