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Friday, March 07, 2008
"Gave Me A Shudder"
Posted by: Hugh Hewitt at 9:27 AM
That's Peggy Noonan's reaction to the conclusion to my interview this week with Christopher Hitchens.

Noonan on Hillary:



What do I think is the biggest reason Mrs. Clinton came back? She kept her own spirits up to the point of denial and worked it, hard, every day. She is hardy, resilient, tough. She is a train on a track, an Iron Horse. But we must not become carried away with generosity. The very qualities that impress us are the qualities that will make her a painful president. She does not care what you think, she will have what she wants, she will not do the feints, pivots and backoffs that presidents must. She is neither nimble nor agile, and she knows best. She will wear a great nation down.



True enough about Hillary's relentlessness.  As I said on CNN this morning, the Clinton's have made a decision to destroy Barack Obama because that is what is necessary to achieve power.  It is already an eye-opener for the Dems to see the politics of personal destruction unleashed on St. Obama.  Popping him on to the ticket in Denver won't heal  all the wounds already and soon-to-be-inflicted.

As Mark Steyn declared on the program yesterday: "It’s a bit like some psycho version of Driving Miss Daisy, this primary race." 

Indeed.





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Chi-town Rebel writes: Friday, March, 07, 2008 10:04 AM
Obama Supporters
I'm really getting a kick out of the Obama supporters.
These are the same liberal nuts that defended Bill Clinton to the max. We keep hearing the Clintons were the greatest thing to happen to this country. If we could only go back to the Clinton days.
Now that it's convenient for them, let's all trash Bill and Hillary.
Some of the things they are now saying about our first black president(Bill Clinton)would make your hair curl. this is all just a hoot.
ChrisB writes: Friday, March, 07, 2008 10:16 AM
Slightly Related: Dems in Academia
Slightly unrelated comment, but some of you might get a kick out of this: U.S. Congressmen Meehan (D-Mass) recently resigned to become the new chancellor (president) of UMass Lowell where I work. He is the a typical liberal, all about show and little about substance. He is throwing himself a huge inauguration gala with Nancy Pelosi and Gov. Patrick as keynote speakers. The funny thing is that they are pressuring the whole university community to attend the gala to show support for the university’s future, but you have to pay $1000 a plate and the money goes to the Dems. It never occurs to these people that there may by conservatives at this University, and the future of the university if different than the future of the Democratic party. The last thing in the world I would want to do is pay $1000 to the Dem party so that I can go hear Pelosi speak, no matter how much they want me to think its my duty because I happen to work here. Here’s more info:

http://www.uml.edu/Media/snapshots/inauguration.html
Chi-town Rebel writes: Friday, March, 07, 2008 10:19 AM
Peggy is a jerk
I'm so sick of her poetic and dreamy speeches. Her long silent far away stares. Oh how profound she is. PLEASE
Just another has been.
NeoConScum writes: Friday, March, 07, 2008 10:20 AM
I Go Hot & Cold With Peggy, As She's
prone towards too much glib cuteness, by half. But, I think she's pretty spot-on with this assessment. Beyond Lady MacClinton's other considerable baggage(Bubba Bill, Billy Bubster, William Jefferson Blythe Clinton, Willie Wagger, The Bubster, etc.)which would wear us all out the first year, there is her specific character & "wiring". Unbendable, Un-Nimble, Non-Flexible, Willful, Demanding, Uncompromising, Stiff, Shrill and an Elephantine-Beyond Nixonian memory for Slights, Insults, etc. NOT Presidential material.

FOCUS Everyone: "Remember: CLINTON FATIGUE?"

Mark Steyn is, as always, devastatingly correct.
lo writes: Friday, March, 07, 2008 10:59 AM
patriotic lib, u'r name's a polar opposi
te. Libs/Socialists are FAR from patriotic. Just refer to the recent bombing of the military recruiting center in Times Square.

You reference "innuendo about Barack"
What we do know about Barack is that he obviously has made some horrendous, deliberate, & controversial associations that need close examination (ie...fascist Louie Farrakhan, domestic terrorist Bill Ayers, black supremacist minister Dr. Jeremiah Wright, & controversial Chicago businessman Tony Rezko).

We also know that he's smoked pot in high school & is narcissistic enough to have already written his memoirs.

So, what you're refering to as 'innuendo' is 'fact', PUBLIC RECORD! FACE IT!
NeoConScum writes: Friday, March, 07, 2008 11:06 AM
lo...Meet PatLib'rul..
Proud of his legendary humility and bloviator extraordinaire. Feed him with a retort and see him bloom like a weed with Miracle Grow!

Condolences.
KGK writes: Friday, March, 07, 2008 11:29 AM
Power politics
The trend now is for both of these socialist pacifists to destroy each other. Odd that being the above, they will use military strategy and Daisey Cutters to become the Prez. Oh well, even if they join togeter, Hillary will find a way to get the Messiah impeached just to keep her in first place. LOL. One wonders if Chris Cox will be the type of VP choice to bring some sanity to the race when the Dems settle theirs and if he will be able to simply outclass the second spotter for the Dems as McCain will obviously show voters that he really is ready to be Commander in Chief against the winner of the Dem mess.
Pasadena Phil writes: Friday, March, 07, 2008 1:04 PM
Again....
"The very qualities that impress us are the qualities that will make her a painful president. She does not care what you think, she will have what she wants, she will not do the feints, pivots and backoffs that presidents must."

How is that different from McCain? They are cut from the same cloth.
Dustyo writes: Friday, March, 07, 2008 1:16 PM
Hope stompted into the ground
For a slight moment Obama made us feel that just maybe there was someone out there that truly believed in the American people and would be bi-partisan. And that maybe, he believed politics didn't have to be done by slick PC individuals taking money under the table or people playing out their own ambitious dreams of ruling the world; HRC in point.

Her saying, 'I have fought Republicans all of my life', should give us a clue as to what kind of mind set she has.(It isn't adult) She doesn't care if those same republicans are Americans, she will search and destroy. She has lost her love for Americans. She treats 'The People' as degenerate low lives that have no ablility to choose anything for themselves and she needs to step on them to get what she wants. It appears as though if some of us should display a mind of our own and possibly have thoughts contrary to hers, she is going to see to it that we are hunted down and taken 'care of'. If she becomes president (God Help us) she will only think of her fellow coherts, and not the people of America as a whole. It is a sorry day to see. I hate to think of her in the office of president. It seems as though the Clinton regime will never go away and quit torturing us, the rest of the American people.
SEEHAWK writes: Friday, March, 07, 2008 1:50 PM
Neo
I intend to flag the Bloviating Humble PL/LP everytime he uses profanity or calls us obscene names on this blog. And I hope you and friends will join me. He is the most judgmental relavistic moralist to ever puke on these pages and I've had it with him.
Everything he says something judgmental about us it is the truth about himself. Period.
paddy o'furniture writes: Friday, March, 07, 2008 2:18 PM
Hillary.....
....will always be Hillary.

Cheers.
Shrinker writes: Friday, March, 07, 2008 2:23 PM
ChrisB
"but you have to pay $1000 a plate and the money goes to the Dems"

I read your link and found nothing about the money going to the Democratic Party. Apparently money is going to the Martin T. Meehan Educational Excellence Fund and the Music Department.

Perhaps you should read you own links before you spew disinformation.
james793 writes: Friday, March, 07, 2008 2:50 PM
P Phil is right
Noonan's remarks describe McCain to a "T". We'll have at least 4 years to ponder how our vaunted system teed up two such similar, and manifestly unsuited nominees, for our highest office.
Chi-town Rebel writes: Friday, March, 07, 2008 4:15 PM
Obama Corruption video
watch this
http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2008/03/sweet_obama_and_his _taking_que.html

Scroll down for video.
Nervous-in-November writes: Friday, March, 07, 2008 6:41 PM
Hugh & Peggy Sittin' in a Tree
What's funnier here? Hugh, that canny analyst of GOP politics (remember Painting the Map Red? Mormon in the White House?), putting the Dems under his trusty microscope? Or Peggy Noonan (any Bush-bot for that matter) writing about a possible (?!!?) president who does not care what you think, will have what (s)he wants, will not do the feints, pivots and backoffs that presidents must...is neither nimble nor agile, and knows best. (S)he will wear a great nation down.
As they say, if you haven't been paying attention, it's really pretty appalling.
NeoConScum writes: Friday, March, 07, 2008 7:43 PM
Nervous...So, Your POINT Is That Prez
Bush has been inflexible? Hasn't been smart and NIMBLE politically?
FOCUS: BWAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhHH!

Right up to this present moment he's outsmarted them, out maneuvered them and arm rassled them successfully whether Republicans were majority or minority. He is tough, amiable, doesn't put HIMSELF in the Center of EVERYTHING. Gets it done.
Patriotic Liberal writes: Friday, March, 07, 2008 8:43 PM
Hey, my post got deleted
Probably because I used the "f" word.

Seehawk: You've had it, eh?! You're like the annoying girl in class who calls on the teacher to report wrong-doing, and then sticks out her tongue when the teacher isn't looking. Here in adultland, we can live with hearing what we don't want to hear--even when spoken with an authoritative voice.

That's at the heart of your hatred for me. I write authoritatively, and your presumption is that the authority belongs to you and those you follow. But it is a presumption, one based on usurpation and ignorance. The weight of our moral and cultural heritage is with..me! And that may anger you, but tough beans. Around here, I am the man. After Hugh, of course..
NeoConScum writes: Friday, March, 07, 2008 9:57 PM
'Hawk...As Ever, He's Strutting That..
Legendary Humility for ya, Babycakes! Bask in the glow. The "weight of our moral & cultural heritage" is with him. You, Missy, are a mere female tongue sticker outer.

Fact: You can kick his a** without breaking the least sweat. You, Girly, ARE the Sgt.at Arms of the Evil Cabal. We Good cuz You BAD!

;-) Fuzzball Neo
Virginia Patriot writes: Friday, March, 07, 2008 10:12 PM
Pasadena Phil Nailed It Again
I'm told daily by the McCainiacs that McCain does not care what the American people think about his amnesty/banana and that he will do what he wants.
McTex writes: Friday, March, 07, 2008 10:30 PM
Pat Lib

You are the man?

A man doesn't put words in other people's mouth. A man doesn't take someone out of context and do it in "quotes" so as to deceive people into thinking that was what I had actually written.

And most importantly a man, when called on it, doesn't complain that two wrongs make a since it also has happened to you.

If that is what you mean by the weight of our moral heritage then by "our" you must be refering to ze volks of your Fatherland.
McTex writes: Friday, March, 07, 2008 10:39 PM
Virgin Pat
"I'm told daily by the McCainiacs that McCain does not care what the American people think about his amnesty/banana and that he will do what he wants."

No Patsy that is not what we tell you. What we said is that McCain does not care what racist nativist Birchers think.

You shouldn't compare yourself with the vast majority of Americans who actually love this country and believe it is the greatest nation on the planet and who respect non-Americans who agree so much that they will risk their lives to be one of us.

Most Americans respect that kind of patriotism - not the kind that is used as a moniker to imply superiority.
Patriotic Liberal writes: Friday, March, 07, 2008 11:08 PM
McTex
Yep. I am the Man.

And like I said, your words are not precious manna. I was looking to bracket your argument from mine. You are seriously overreacting. Men do not overreact.

As I said, if I got the gist of your argument wrong, then that is bad, and I would correct it immediately. But it sound to me like you are just blustering to hear yourself bluster.

As for your "liberal fascist" argument, I suppose there is no end to the moral laziness undergirding THAT argument. Which means, given the caliber and character of this generation of conservatism, we'll be hearing it for a long time.
clarityseeker writes: Friday, March, 07, 2008 11:14 PM
Camp Hillary Clinton
Howard Wolfson calls Barack Obama, "Ken Starr", as Mr. Obama asks Mrs. Clinton to release her IRS records (as all candidates do).

FUNNY THING:

When Shrillary ran for her N.Y. Senate seat against Rick Lazio she did the same thing to him---demanding him to release his tax records. While she employed this tactic, she had a Clinton "Goon" dress up as "Uncle Sam" and show up at every speech and gathering he attended. This "goon" always brought attention to himself by yelling to Mr. Lazio to "release your tax records".

I SEE. Now Barack Obama is likened to "Ken Starr" for asking for exactly the same thing.

She's not a "MONSTER". She is a run-of-the-mill, scurrilous, slimy, creepy-crawly, slippery, Liberal.
clarityseeker writes: Friday, March, 07, 2008 11:22 PM
Shrillary
A manefestation of narcissistic, Boomer-leftovers.
A self-loving, self-satisfied, self-important, self-serving, public servant.
She exemplifies where the Left has brought the Democrat Party to.
Patriotic Liberal writes: Friday, March, 07, 2008 11:25 PM
C'shrieker
..weighs in with his tiresome opinion that to be a liberal is to be a person of low character.

Really, 'shrieker, you belong in a country that does not permit deep and fundamental philosophic disagreements. Have you thought about moving to China? This business of impugning liberalism--the basis of this nation's moral greatness--is rather mediocre and embarrassing.
Patriotic Liberal writes: Friday, March, 07, 2008 11:31 PM
On the other hand..
..although the moral shortcomings of Boomer leftists are justly famous, the moral shortcomings of Boomer rightists are just now becoming known to history. In the end, people will say that the Boomer left failed in their youth, but that is excusable, as youth is the age of folly. But the Boomer right failed later on in life, and that is inexcusable. As Scripture says, three things stink to the high heavens: proud beggars, rich liars, and old men without any sense. Boomer conservatives are that third category.
clarityseeker writes: Friday, March, 07, 2008 11:38 PM
PL
Nothing you write makes sense.
If I were you, I would seriously consider changing doctors. The psychologist is doing nothing for you.

"Liberal's, are of "low character"? No, actually, some have none whatsoever---you for instance.
You are simply an irrelevant liberal, even further down the food chain.

As for "leaving" this country. Well now, is that not the strategy of those on the Left? Barbra Streisand, Alec Baldwin, George Looney, Richard Dreyfuss, et al. They are all your peeps. You are talking their rants. Besides, why would I want to leave while knowing how much I irritate you?
:)
McTex writes: Friday, March, 07, 2008 11:46 PM
Pathetic Liberal
"I was looking to bracket your argument from mine. You are seriously overreacting. Men do not overreact."

Excuse me? It wasn't my argument - you took me out of context. Secondly you used quotes and I think everyone knows what that implies. You never prefaced your intentions so as to make it clear that those were your words and not mine.

Remember when you wrote, "Just because I had sex with a 14 year old boy does not make me a pedophile and I don't believe ephebophilia is a sin - the boy had hair on his privates for God's sake".

No it isn't outrageous.

But hey why should I be surprised - fascists believe the end justifies the means.
clarityseeker writes: Friday, March, 07, 2008 11:46 PM
PL
...Oh, and thanks for providing all this "free" entertainment as provided by your Democrat Party.
Really. It is incredibly instructive.

You might consider charging for all of this frolic and childishness within your party. At least then you could generate cash contributions for that re-vote concept in Florida and Michigan.
Well, that's only if you can't get the government to foot the bill for you as you would expect.

Last word is yours as I retire for the eve. Don't forget your meds.
Patriotic Liberal writes: Friday, March, 07, 2008 11:58 PM
McTex
I'm the guy who thinks the means determine the end, and that people should always be treated as ends and not means. So I guess I'm not a fascist.

You know, I do see your point. You are right that I should not have thrown quotes around my paraphrase of your arguments. I don't think I improperly paraphrased them, but the quotes were misleading. And you are not just being self-serious to insist they were. Sorry about that, McTex. I still think I'm right about poverty, but you are definitely right to claim that I should treat your arguments more carefully. Lord knows my words are treated with bad faith around here, so I should at least have the decency not to engage in the same sin. Please accept my apology..
Patriotic Liberal writes: Saturday, March, 08, 2008 12:02 AM
C'shrieker
It's called "democracy." Maybe you've heard of it. Maybe it isn't a good thing tactically, from the standpoint of political technics or whatever else drives the American body politic these days, but it is never a bad thing, so far as consent of the governed is concerned, when you count noses.
McTex writes: Saturday, March, 08, 2008 12:07 AM
Pat Lib

Fully accepted. Thank you!

Now back to how wrong you are...

lol
clarityseeker writes: Saturday, March, 08, 2008 3:52 PM
Pathetic Liberal
Noooooooo, it's called Dumbocrat democracy. The republicans do not utilize "superdelegates". The DNC established it this way, and, you approve of it.
it is now haunting your party and its candidates after they all agreed to treat Florida and Michigan separately. Now, Shrillary desires to "change" (you see, Barack does not have the concept of "change" cornered) the rules she agreed to, and, it goes on and on and on and on.

As long as you and your peeps do not demand that the taxpayer---or----"Reeps" pay for re-votes, re-dos, do-overs, redundancies, we're just fine with it.

We'll just sit over here and watch the fun.
While you eat your young.
And with your self-seriousness, self-importance, self-indulgence, self-centeredness, self-regulating, self-righteousness, self-serving, self-satisfying, self-conceit, self-deception, risk your own, self-destruction.

I've never given witness to one who is so self-absorbed and self-convinced in his own bull****.
Patriotic Liberal writes: Sunday, March, 09, 2008 10:35 AM
'shrieker
Superdelegates are put in place because they are the knuckleheads who have to run down-ticket from the nominee. Any idiot can shriek and pontificate in our democracy, but some people actually risk putting their names on the ballot. I think you can argue that those people deserve added consideration.

I think we agree on MI and FL, regardless of your cliche observations and tortured logic.

Finally, your string of insults at the end, with all those "self" hyphenateds, is truly second rate. One might say it is "self-insistent." I understand you got the argument from 'scum, and went running off with it in your own insane and extremist manner. Still, just because I am a better man than you does not make me self-absorbed. You are more absorbed by me than I am by myself. I'm flattered, honestly, that you would find me so vexing, but really, I'm not much--better than you, to be sure, but in myself, not much..
clarityseeker writes: Sunday, March, 09, 2008 10:53 AM
Pathetic Liberal
"I think you can argue that those people deserve added consideration."
I argue nothing.
You are the one justifying, posturing for these yahoos. Your side is gaming this process. Your side is enmeshed in fighting itself (Sen. Bill Nelson sued Howard Dean)

I merely stated two things;
1.) thanks for the entertainment
2.) don't expect the people nor republicans to pay for your folly.

"...tortured logic"
You've already cornered the market on this. You exercise it regularly, liberally, painfully.

"self". Your party is all about self---nearly every manifestation and expression of it. Boomer-narcissism is the Liberal/Left legacy.

You can argue, posture, position all you want. It changes not the truth. As stated earlier, you personally, are irrelevant.

clarityseeker writes: Sunday, March, 09, 2008 10:53 AM
Pathetic Liberal
"I think you can argue that those people deserve added consideration."
I argue nothing.
You are the one justifying, posturing for these yahoos. Your side is gaming this process. Your side is enmeshed in fighting itself (Sen. Bill Nelson sued Howard Dean)

I merely stated two things;
1.) thanks for the entertainment
2.) don't expect the people nor republicans to pay for your folly.

"...tortured logic"
You've already cornered the market on this. You exercise it regularly, liberally, painfully.

"self". Your party is all about self---nearly every manifestation and expression of it. Boomer-narcissism is the Liberal/Left legacy.

You can argue, posture, position all you want. It changes not the truth. As stated earlier, you personally, are irrelevant.

Patriotic Liberal writes: Sunday, March, 09, 2008 11:10 AM
Yawn..
Yeah, we had an excuse for our narcissism: we were kids. Kids are self-absorbed, but that was forty years ago. Fast forward--what excuse does the Boomer right have for its narcissism of TODAY? I mean, sheesh, haven't you learned anything in your years under the sun? The triumphalism, the myopia, the conceits, the self-absolvement--just pathetic..

The left had to grow up and it will carry its sins in Vietnam--and the other sins besides--through history. The Boomer right, however, is just now being seen for the destructive and pernicious force it has been. High time, too. You can fool some the people all of the time, but you can't fool history. And history will look at the two sides of the boomer equation and say: "a pox on both those houses."
McTex writes: Sunday, March, 09, 2008 2:08 PM
Pat Lib

"The Boomer right, however, is just now being seen for the destructive and pernicious force it has been."

I keep waiting for you to proffer some examples.

Hell I may end up even partially agreeing with you but, once again, you reveal the height of the boomer left's narcissism when you continuously engage in this gotcha game without providing an ounce of evidentiary validation.
NeoConScum writes: Tuesday, March, 11, 2008 11:20 AM
Yikes...Such Language !
"Evidentiary validation.."..."boomer narcissism.."

"..Triumphalism.."..."myopic.."

One Lib...One(alleged)"Reep"..Dom-Pards, Perfecto.
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