Thursday, July 09, 2009
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Billions in Aid Going to Areas That Backed Obama in '08
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Posted by:
Meredith Jessup at
7:27 PM
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USA Today reports today that billions more federal aid dollars have been reserved for areas around the country that supported President Obama during the 2008 presidential election.
Much of it [$17 billion of the stimulus package spent to date] has followed a well-worn path to places that regularly collect a bigger share of federal grants and contracts, guided by formulas that have been in place for decades and leave little room for manipulation.
"There's no politics at work when it comes to spending for the recovery," White House spokesman Robert Gibbs says.
However, an analysis of government accounting records by USA Today has found that counties that supported then-Senator Obama last year have received twice as much money per person from the federal economic stimulus package as those that voted for his rival, Republican Sen. John McCain.
Jake Wiens, an investigator with the non-profit Project on Government Oversight, says it's too soon to draw meaningful conclusions about whether the type of aid in the stimulus favors Obama's constituents. But, he says, "it will be important to pay close attention as the data come in to ensure that political favoritism plays no role."
We'll keep you posted...
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Here is an issue to discuss:
Glenn Reynolds linked to a Volokh article on the Mass challenge to Defense of Marriage Act this week. Apparently state rights are not good enough, they want federal recognition through the courts on full faith and credit (something Sully said he would never support). Sully has been now been crying how when he travels out of Massachusetts he is “divorced” from his husband(I am not sure if that means he can get some strange on the side, but that is how he described it).
Okay, snark aside, I get why Sullivan wants to overturn and get rid of DOMA, but why challenge DOMA in the courts?
Sullivan of course does not challenge his Democratic Party pals and Barack Obama about this. Why not? They control congress. They can repeal DOMA right now can’t they?
Just another example of Sullivan’s hypocrisy. He would rather play the victim and cry about Palin, Bush and McCain. Attacking McCain, who does Sully think he is? A conservative? Sully's conservative soul died a long time ago. Well two of them are out of office and McCain is not exactly doing a lot out side of Arizona (and policy wise is more moderate than conservative).
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FACT CHECK: Will stimulus create more than 3 million jobs like Democrats say? Maybe not
ALAN FRAM
AP News
Feb 02, 2009 13:28 EST
President Barack Obama and congressional Democrats say it nearly every day: Their huge economic stimulus package must be rushed to passage because it will create or save 3 million to 4 million jobs.
In fact, those figures are uncertain enough that even some economists who produced them are basically saying: We gave it our best shot.
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Just like any of their other evil bills: If people had even a day to read it, it wouldn't pass. |
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They only SAID stimulus was to get people back to work. They have only (mis)spent about 10%. What's the hold up--since they get to get people outta bed and home from their mother's funeral to vote for it in a matter of hours?
The "stimulus" is the war chest for the Dems. It will be spent just in time for the '10 election--but not so soon for people to realize it doesn't work.
Now they are talking about the 2nd (actually 3rd) stimulus. This money will all go to get Dems elected.
The Pubs might be a bunch of baffoons but the Dems are a bunch of bas$tards--a criminal gang shaking down normal people to consolidate unassailable power.
I hate them. |
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I agree with you. This stimulus was to get people back to work. It was not to support those who would have been unemployed even if unemployment was at 4%. |
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counted your chickens too soon. boLibs back cluttering up the Forum with BS. |
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Federal aid begets federal aid. Nothing ever gets fixed. If it worked, things would get better.
But the "stimulus" money was robbed/borrowed or whatever from taypayers to STIMULATE THE ECONOMY, not give aid to the needier districts.
That, of course, is why the BHO/Proud Progressive/Keynesian economics will NEVER work.
Eric Cantor was speaking this am. His point: Now that we've done stupid (sucked money out of the economy (psychologocally speaking), run it through government to BHO voters, let's now do smart.
Cut payroll taxes, etc. and give some stability to the economy. BHO is just like FDR: Govt control, constant and eratic experimentation, demonizing business and glorifying govt.
It didn't work then and it's not working now. Whatever BHO's game (I believe he's simply a stupid young kid with a black liberation mind set who believes his ideological advisors), it's a continuing disaster.
The Founders made "federal aid" (stealing from one citizen to give to another) unconstitutional for a reason. It's immoral. And will destroy the country by creating a corrupt, tyrannical fed govt. |
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This is the second thread on a totally bogus topic. The same counties received more Federal aid when Bush and the Republicans ran the government. Gee, that Obama really does have magical powers! |
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Rarely do we get an opportunity to discuss an article without a bunch of trolls qu*ering the thread.
From the article,
"The reports show the 872 counties that supported Obama received about $69 per person, on average. The 2,234 that supported McCain received about $34."
I-25 runs North and South through the Front Range here in Colorado. Weld Co. went for McCain with 65 percent of the vote. Larimer County, just to the North of Weld when traveling North on I-25, went for Obama. Yesterday, a "paid for by stimulus dollars" sign went up on I-25 where it travels from Weld to Larimer, just South of Hwy 34.
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It would, however, make sense that more money would go to areas that supported Obama. They typically need more help. You see, liberals care about the underserved.
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Bwahahahahahaha! Liberals care about VOTES! Those underserved are actually led by liberal Democrats who promise year after year to "take them away from poverty". Fact is..these people are still poor because the liberal Dems want them to stay that way. Then and only then can they be controlled to solicit thier votes.
Don't be misled, today's Marxist Socialists (lib Dems) are the new slaveholders in our society. |
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Anyone who feels safe right now is very foolish. |
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"Inner-city teens wait for the bus outside my office. The girls all have babies in expensive strollers. Their gang-banger boy friends have bum cracks showing. All have cell phones and tats. All are smoking pot."
Thing is that this is common in most inner-cities. What I noticed is that even when there were jobs for all in 2005 through about 2007 it was the same. During those years anyone who wanted a job could get one. Many chose not to and the government continued to pump lots of money into those areas trying to make it different. I did not work then and it will not work in the future. Unfortunately, what is being done now is pumping money into areas that will never change instead of giving the money to businesses to create jobs for those who want them. Time to face reality. I certain segment of the population will always be on the government dole no matter what the government does. Perhaps we need to consentrate on those who do want to work instead and use the money to get them employed.
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saudis. However, for the most part, we were safe from major Terrorist attacks in the 90's and President Bush kept us safe after 911.
Do you feel safe with bo as President?
bo wants to negotiate without preconditions with the Iran Terrorists who have been our worst enemies since 1979. Does that make you feel safe?
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You don't see that the so-called Great Society is causing all the rot in the underclass? Stinking, rotting, helpless, corrupt New Arlens was a LIBERAL stronghold.
Inner-city teens wait for the bus outside my office. The girls all have babies in expensive strollers. Their gang-banger boy friends have bum cracks showing. All have cell phones and tats. All are smoking pot.
During summer vacation, they wander the streets, walking up and down past help-wanted signs.
Whatever you throw money at....grows--like a big, fat fungus.
If BHO and his proud progressives had stablized the economy with tax cuts (or at least annoucning that would maintain the current rates), people with some means would be hiring, buying and investing. But no! We have to suck every penny out of the private sector to pay for some little gang banger's orgasm. |
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... white men are Dems in bed with government, sucking the rest of us dry.
(Not a good visual, I know.) |
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of the book The House of Saud. |
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Most republicans are NOT, as you say, "wealthy, white old men".
A great number of Republicans are people like me--hard working single women. We are out here in flyover country, doing our jobs and also taking care of our children.
How many "wealthy, white old men" are Hollywood stars, and Liberal? How many conservative women have been villified simply for being consevative?
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This is from Simon and Schuster:
How did the Bushes, America's most powerful political family, become gradually seduced by and entangled with their Saudi counterparts?
Why did the Bush administration approve the secret airlift of 140 Saudis, including two dozen relatives of Osama bin Laden, just after September 11? Did one of the Saudi royals on the planes have any advance knowledge of the attacks?
What specifically chosen words did George W. Bush say on national television during the 2000 election campaign to trigger Muslim support? How did the Saudi-funded Islamic groups propel Bush to victory in Florida, thus winning him the presidency?
The answers to these questions lie in a largely hidden relationship between the House of Bush and the House of Saud that began in the mid-1970s. An amazing weave of money, power and influence, it takes place all over the globe and involves war, covert operations and huge deals in the oil and defense industries. But, most horrifying of all, the secret liason between the two families helped trigger the Age of Terror and give rise to the tragedy of 9/11.
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Read "The Houe of Saud." It's an amazing and factual book.
Lots of people give to libraries, or to politicians. This goes waaaaay deeper. |
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What's the real world? Who can't hack it? And how would you define 'hack it?' Compiling cash? I'd love to drop you in the middle of South Central with no money, no cards, and no transportation...oh, and no family members with any cash whatsoever. Let's see how you hack it. I've spent a lot of years working with people who have never had a break in their lives. And, I've worked with the privileged as well. Trust me. Those that 'have,' by and large, 'have' because they had a hand up. GW failed at every business he tried, failed at school, couldn't even do his job at the Air National Guard. He became president. Because he was so brilliant? Because he "worked" so hard? Don't think so. He had an awful lot of help. The kind of help our underserved populations just don't ever see.
Does the word PERCEPTOR imply that have clarity? Check again. |
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The Saudi's contributed to Clinton's library so please cite the Bin Ladens Bush got rich buddying up with.
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Clinton got rich because he's smart as hell. Bush's got rich by buddying up with the Bin Ladens.
What's interesting, though, is that Clinton does amazing work around the globe helping the underserved. What has GW done lately? |
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"Investigators who track the stimulus are skeptical that political considerations could be at work. The imbalance is so pronounced — and the aid so far from complete — that it would be almost inconceivable for it to be the result of political tinkering, says Adam Hughes, the director of federal fiscal policy for the non-profit OMB Watch. "Even if they wanted to, I don't think the administration has enough people in place yet to actually do that," he says.
"Most of what they're doing at this point is just stamping the checks and sending them out," Hughes says."
So I checked out the, uh, "non-profit OMB Watch". Here's their list of funders from their website,
http://www.ombwatch.org/node/9610
Click on "Open Society Institute". It'll open a new page.
No media bias? Riiight. I wonder what the "non-profit Heritage Foundation" thinks of spending discrepency. |
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But...notice how this piddly little article ends. We'll keep you posted. They know nothing, but putting it out there is enough to raise conservative eyebrows. Heck, drooling might even be happening. The possibility of something has their heart rates up already.
It would, however, make sense that more money would go to areas that supported Obama. They typically need more help. You see, liberals care about the underserved. Conservatives would just as soon let them rot - like during Katrina, for example. |
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I wonder who Barry pi$$ed off at the otherwise sympathetic to the liberals USA today?? |
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Now follow the money and you will find it will never reach the common man's pocket. |
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compared to Bill and Hillary Clinton. What I find amazing is how fast Bill Clinton, a counrty bumpkin and poor white trash, amassed such great wealth.
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some more ultra-rich Democrats include the Kerrys, the Clintons and the Obamas.
The Obamas made several million dollars last year, and according to his calculations, making over $250,000 makes you rich, thus he would be beyond rich, in the ultra-rich bracket.
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They don't pay taxes so Democrats are wealthy white old men too...just look at Al Gore and Michael Moore, John Murtha are wealthy white old men...Then there is Harry Reid, Chris "Countrywide" Dodd, and the list goes on. |
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He's going to pay his homies first. Right out of the radical hand book. Sol Alinsky would be proud.
We now have become a banana republic. Are you happy?
$ going to real Americans...can anyone really be that naive?
It's graft on a cosmic scale (trillions) with no accountability. And the media's in bed with odumbo, you know this will be swept under the rug.
Do ya think Charlie Gibson will do an expose on the corrupt obama administration. Don't hold your breath.
And we ain't seen nothin yet. Wait till they shove cap and tax down our throats. Americans with the least will get hammered the most.
Obama wants to go green meaning he wants to transfer your green cash to him. And all to save the damn planet. Ha.
If we fall for that we deserve to get screwed.
Bend over America. Get ready for Procto-bama. |
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White House press secretary Robert Gibbs claims that the discrepancy is not due to the White House "rewarding" counties that voted them in, but because those counties have received more federal money for quite some time, and the stimulus is proportional to that. Ignoring for a moment that Gibbs' job is to defend the President's policies, and the fact that he's an imbecile, that's still a plausible explanation, at least on face value. We may not want to jump to conclusions quite yet.
But even if Gibbs is correct (stopped watches and all that) it's still bad news for Democrats. One of their favorite contentions of late is that it's conservative-leaning states, Republican-leaning areas, that suck up most of the federal money. They claim that red staters can't get by on their own, so they're supported by oh so generous and more accomplished blue staters out of the kindness of their hearts. If Gibbs is stating the truth, then the opposite is true: it's actually Democrats who can't hack it in the real world without federal intervention. And if Gibbs is lying, then the Obama White House is very thoroughly corrupt. |
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Having won the election according to the proportions of Americans who voted for him, he must reward the proportions of America with the largest populations who voted for him. Other proportions that have come out well are unions, education, healthcare. The progressive, United Proportions of America, the U.P.A., an undoing of the U.S.A. |
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...and the surprise is..??
In addition to the obvious paybacks from The Messiah, there's the fact that Repubs suck at the Federal Teet vastly less than than those teet lappin' Dems.
Duuhhhhhhh...! |
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Republicans tend to be wealthy, white old men. They don't any stimulus, so it's going to real Americans. |
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