Monday, November 02, 2009
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Gandolf the Gay Vandalizes the Bible
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Posted by:
Meredith Jessup at
3:50 PM
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Unbelievable. From British local press:
Sir Ian McKellen's penchant for ripping out pages of the Bibles he finds in hotel rooms has caught on - fans have started sending him sections of text they've removed. The openly gay Lord of the Rings star tears out a section of Leviticus, which condemns homosexuality, whenever he finds the good book in hotel suites - and his small-scale vandalism has inspired others to do the same. He tells Details magazine, "I'm not proudly defacing the book, but it's a choice between removing that page and throwing away the whole Bible. "I got delivered a package of 40 of those pages... that had been torn out by a married couple I know. They put them on a bit of string so that I could hang it up in the bathroom."
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Jesus did affirm the creation order (male and female) to the exclusion of all others and used Sodom and Gomorrah as the premier example of the worst sin (outside of rejecting Jesus when he has made who He is known to you)
Also, if she knew anything about abortion, she would know that the worship of Molech (totally condemned by God) has sinister parallels to abortion, especially in regards to the empty justifications given for it.
Finally, my count on how many people Satan has killed is a little more than 10, in fact he is actually responsible for every single death.
FAIL.
Poor old Gandalf - maybe if he'd had kids he wouldn't be so angry. |
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Number of people killed by God in the Bible
2,301,417
Number of people killed by Satan in the Bible
10.
Oh, yeah, and those 10 people were Job's Children, who God approved the "hit" on during a stupid bar bet with Satan....
So, like, um, which one is supposed to be evil again? |
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again. Such a shame, because you people are going to have such a surprise in store for you one of these days. |
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"Tearing pages from a Bible does not diminish its truth. Either these fools will finally READ the plan of salvation they've been missing or tearing up, OR they will be judged eternally for rejecting the truth: Jesus Christ, the Son of God, died for the sins they refuse to acknowledge to-date, and they must trust Him as their Savior from those sins.
No amount of page-tearing will negate that truth. God will either save them for their faith OR He will judge them ETERNALLY for their wickedness."
Me- Once again, your invisible sky pixie sounds like he's awfully insecure. So exactly which passages are we supposed to not tear out and believe, the ones were God tells us to kill our neighbors for working on Sunday? Or to kill our children for mouthing off? It strikes me that even you Fundementalists choose which passages you obey and which ones you ignore.
Jesus didn't say jack diddly about homosexuality, and there is not a single passage in the bible that specifically bans abortion. (And understandably so, when you had a infant mortality rate of 50%, what was the point of killing an fetus?) Yet you "Christians" claim up and down that America is Sodom and God is going to punish us all for these things. Yet Jesus was VERY much against divorce, yet you guys idolize so called "Family values" types like Fred Thompson, Newt Gingrich, Rush Limbaugh and others who have dumped wives on the curb to move on to second and even third wives.
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Interesting...
casting that in the new Prisoner series re-make Jim Caviezel, the man who played Christ in Mel Gibson's Passion of the Christ should be #6, The Prisoner of #1 Ian McKellen, The LOTR Gandalf the GrAY, the star of this thread, as the desecrator of any Bible he finds in a hotel where he may stay. Portends of things to come? We the People will all be the Prisoners in the global Village, should They have Their way, & we must accept their Idols: Celebrity, Diversity, and Depravity, and Preversity, Profanity, and Promiscuity...
Me- Gee, I watched the Passion and thought it was an overproduced snuff film. Seriously, it wasn't that good of a movie, and we've subsequently found out old Mel Gibson is pretty much a strange rangers...
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casting that in the new Prisoner series re-make Jim Caviezel, the man who played Christ in Mel Gibson's Passion of the Christ should be #6, The Prisoner of #1 Ian McKellen, The LOTR Gandalf the GrAY, the star of this thread, as the desecrator of any Bible he finds in a hotel where he may stay. Portends of things to come? We the People will all be the Prisoners in the global Village, should They have Their way, & we must accept their Idols: Celebrity, Diversity, and Depravity, and Preversity, Profanity, and Promiscuity... |
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who you are, whatever handle you use, your an unmitigated fraud and liar. Proven to be so! You are the very worst of the worst. You have no shame, and here at Th, you're nothing more than a Conservative pincushion. Virtually anyone who had been caught repeatedly lying, and had been found to have no credibility or character, would be too ashamed, and would leave forthwith. You leave with your tail between your legs, totally shamed, but rather than moving on, you come back with a new handle, so as to continue your lying ways! Your one sick puppy, sister woman, one sick puppy. "kaboom" was synonymous with lying, and "sceptyczny" is "kaboom". Scram liar...... |
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Tearing pages from a Bible does not diminish its truth. Either these fools will finally READ the plan of salvation they've been missing or tearing up, OR they will be judged eternally for rejecting the truth: Jesus Christ, the Son of God, died for the sins they refuse to acknowledge to-date, and they must trust Him as their Savior from those sins.
No amount of page-tearing will negate that truth. God will either save them for their faith OR He will judge them ETERNALLY for their wickedness.
Every knee will bow, and every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord. (Philippians 2:10-11). |
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REPLY: No Israelite did it either. Those were precepts but not with that kind of penalty. Get your q u e e r ducks in a straight row, fagoot.
Had to take these verses from the bible on the NEWADVENT website, the house organ of the Catholic Church...
Me- Killing a man for working on the Sabbath-
Numbers 32 And it came to pass, when the children of Israel were in the wilderness, and had found a man gathering sticks on the sabbath day, 33 That they brought him to Moses and Aaron and the whole multitude. 34 And they put him into prison, not knowing what they should do with him. 35 And the Lord said to Moses: Let that man die, let all the multitude stone him without the camp. 36 And when they had brought him out, they stoned him, and he died as the Lord had commanded.
http://www.newadvent.org/bible/num015.htm
Killing your disobedient Children-
Duetornomy 18 If a man have a stubborn and unruly son, who will not hear the commandments of his father or mother, and being corrected, slighteth obedience: 19 They shall take him and bring him to the ancients of the city, and to the gate of judgment, 20 And shall say to them: This our son is rebellious and stubborn, he slighteth hearing our admonitions, he giveth himself to revelling, and to debauchery and banquetings: 21 The people of the city shall stone him: and he shall die, that you may take away the evil out of the midst of you, and all Israel hearing it may be afraid.
http://www.newadvent.org/bible/deu021.htm
Sorry, guy, that's what your bible calls for. It's right there, in the translation YOUR church authorizes. |
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Just cast that single vote. You're wishes might come true, Cretino. Clay is correct; all you represent is the self-destructive homosexual hive; spoiled rotten and not capable of changing anything. God got even with you by creating you a helpless minority.
Me- Uh, no, you see, God doesn't exist, and most straights are not the haters that you are. The only thin reed you guys cling to is marriage. You say the "F" word in public, people will frown on you... even TH won't let you say it directly, isn't that saying a lot!
"That and the sad fact you're also a leper without lesions; only that awful stigma we know as "a f a ggot." "
Me- I don't now who "we" is. You a a few of your buddies, like Larry Craig and Ted Haggard?
".ur opinion sucks but you have reinforcements? Dream on, Punkie!
". . . most homophobic men were latent homosexuals."
Nice try, Cretino. Everybody knows your homosexual agenda depends on a last-ditch lie. "
Me- Actually, they did scientific tests. They strapped sensors onto the weiners of homophobes like yourself and well adjusted straights like me. The guys like you were the ones who got the woodies watching "Brokeback Mountain".
DN- There's no such argument as "homophobia." We're all just homo sapiens. You aren't even a "latent" homosexual. you're a smarmy fruit-pie. You & the University aren't peruasive; demand a tuition refund.
Me-Well, you see, you display your ignorance.
Homo in latin means "Man", as in the genus of man which includes all those other species you thumpers don't like to admit exist.
Homo in Greek means "same", as in "homosexual" and "homophobia".... obviously, if you are that ignorant, you should ask the nuns for YOUR money back.
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He's Eleanor Roosevelt.
"If you have 1 out of 4 who is uninsured or underinsured, and you have a a third of that money paying profits to fat cats, you're doing something wrong. Period."
If is for children, and pock-marked megalomaniacs, Cretino. |
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". . . SENSIBLE. We no longer kill our neighbors for working on Sunday, or murder our children for backtalking,"
REPLY: No Israelite did it either. Those were precepts but not with that kind of penalty. Get your q u e e r ducks in a straight row, fagoot.
". . . even though the Bible says that is EXACTLY what we should do. We realize that is barbaric, and we don't do it."
You apparently found a q u e er bible. The Holy Bible doesn't say that at all. Sorry, Vaginaphobe!
"And if someone does, we put them in jail or an insane asylum."
We did that with twinks who were caught in flagrante delicto too. In the good old days of human decency and responsible conduct. {{{Sigh.}}}} |
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Just cast that single vote. You're wishes might come true, Cretino.
Clay is correct; all you represent is the self-destructive homosexual hive; spoiled rotten and not capable of changing anything. God got even with you by creating you a helpless minority.
That and the sad fact you're also a leper without lesions; only that awful stigma we know as "a f a ggot."
". . . ranting homophobia only reinforces my opinion the University of Georgia had it right,"
Your opinion sucks but you have reinforcements? Dream on, Punkie!
". . . most homophobic men were latent homosexuals."
Nice try, Cretino. Everybody knows your homosexual agenda depends on a last-ditch lie.
There's no such argument as "homophobia." We're all just homo sapiens. You aren't even a "latent" homosexual. you're a smarmy fruit-pie. You & the University aren't peruasive; demand a tuition refund.
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"When you start deciding what is acceptable and what is not acceptable then you are making yourself the law maker for all humanity. AND THAT IS JUST - INTOLERANT."
No, actually, it's SENSIBLE. We no longer kill our neighbors for working on Sunday, or murder our children for backtalking, even though the Bible says that is EXACTLY what we should do. We realize that is barbaric, and we don't do it. And if someone does, we put them in jail or an insane asylum.
T- "Let a thousand flowers bloom. How about you don't destroy other people's property, intellectual property or books?"
Fine, don't put it in a room I pay good money for. Once I paid for that room, everything in it is MINE! Bwhahahahaha.
T-
I challenge you to read what the Quoran says about 'homosexuality and what should be done to them' then go to the middle east (Saudi, Iran, Iraq) and publicly declare to them that their holy book is not longer suitable for the 21st century.
Me- Guy, I did. No passage of the Koran calls for the death of gays. It only has 4 passages condeming it rather than 38 like the Bible. But is this your argument, because we aren't as backwards and savage as people who strap bombs to their own children, we are somehow better? No, we just aren't as bad.
TB - YOU ARE A COWARD! You act out with disrespect because the constitution guarantees protection for your views. How about you allow other americans to express their views even when they don't align with your.
Unacceptable? Oh Palease! And homosexuality is acceptable to ALL americans?
Me- You are allowed to express whatever backward, bigoted views you like. My job is only to point out their unacceptability until you are reduced to the point where you'll only say them in your own home... kind of like most racists today. |
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"your ignorance is astounding .
your defense of gay sex and abortion only reinforces my opinion of you and other libs as hedonistic spoiled children that want someone else to pay for everything and lack the discipline to reign in their personal lusts consequences be damned."..
Your ranting HOmophobia only reinforces my opinion the University of Georgia had it right when it found out that most homophobic men were latent homosexuals.
Look, guy, the problem is, if we had fair compensation for labor, instead of a system where the top 1% owns as much as the bottom 95, and businesses dealt honestly, we wouldn't have an issue here. It isn't a matter of HOW the money is being spent on health care. We spend more than any other country in the world. It's how those resources are being allocated. If you have 1 out of 4 who is uninsured or underinsured, and you have a a third of that money paying profits to fat cats, you're doing something wrong. Period.
Yeah, maybe we'd all live longer if we lived like Ned Flanders, but who wants to live like Ned Flanders?
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"you are currently not required to buy health insurance ,you have the option of seeking healthcare from several companies."
That's not true. I'm forced to pick the one my employer chooses, and it's usually the one that saves HIM money. Since it's a transaction between them, I don't find out how well insured I am until I actually get sick... and if I get too sick, there will be a guy who will review my medical record looking for a pre-existing condition.
"proper reform would increase the numbers of companies you could purchase insurance from and the ensuing competion would lower the price ."
No, it would just put a lot more fly-by-nighters in there. Hey, do you think if my state isn't licensing Bob's Cutrate Insurance from Nevada, there's PROBABLY a good reason?
"you would push the worst of the worst upon us in the form of a goverment option which amounts to a defacto monoploly that forces its customer to purchase its product at gunpoint."
Two problems with that statement. First, nothing makes the Public option a "monopoly", second, if it was so bad, people who had any kinds of means would avoid it. Secondly, since we aren't going to let people die in the street, it's unfair to hold everyone else liable. That's why most states require you buy auto insurance, , etc.
Like I said, I prefer to have a single payer system LIKE EVERYONE ELSE HAS and be done with it. You guys are insisting the market can do better. Well, prove it!
"if you refuse to pay the irs will arrest you and confiscate your property and deprive you of your freedom."
Me- Yes, just like it will arrest me if I refuse to pay my taxes because I don't want to fight a war on the other side of the planet. Tell you what, let's have a checkoff list on the IRS 1040. You get to VOTE for which programs your money funds. Wanna bet Universal Health Care gets more money than "Make Halliburton Rich".
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well said, sir.
Reactionary christians are the same as the taliban, except they don't have the guts to do what they would love to do to gays and others they don't like. |
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"Yawn, that's right, when you don't have a coherent answer, accuse the other side of hate. Such as "Why do you Hate America" or "Why do you hate Black Men". I brought up a legitimate criticism of your bible, it contains passages that are unacceptable to modern 21st century people. (the civilized ones, anyway.) Is this REALLY the best counterargument you guys have?"
When you start deciding what is acceptable and what is not acceptable then you are making yourself the law maker for all humanity. AND THAT IS JUST - INTOLERANT.
Let a thousand flowers bloom. How about you don't destroy other people's property, intellectual property or books?
I challenge you to read what the Quoran says about 'homosexuality and what should be done to them' then go to the middle east (Saudi, Iran, Iraq) and publicly declare to them that their holy book is not longer suitable for the 21st century.
YOU ARE A COWARD! You act out with disrespect because the constitution guarantees protection for your views. How about you allow other americans to express their views even when they don't align with your.
Unacceptable? Oh Palease! And homosexuality is acceptable to ALL americans? |
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"In this currently free country no one forces you to read the bible, no one forces you to attend church and no on forces you to live a Christian lifestyle."
Yup, and we want to keep it that way. Fortunately, we live in a country founded by people suspicious of organized religion...
Sadly, what you guys want to do is tell a fine guy like Sir Ian he's an "abomination" because your bible says so. Sorry, he isn't. Okay, maybe I haven't QUITE forgiven him for X-Men3, but he's an outstanding person who is good at his craft, gives to charities, etc. YOu want to force women to have their rapists' babies. You want to stick your ten commandments in the Public Square... honestly, you are no better than the Taliban.
You want to impose your views on the rest of us and make it law... so as long as you insist on doing that, your hypocrisy, stupidity and absurdity is fair game...
"Also, you must be exhausted going around pointing out hypocrisy in all religions. You do, don't you? Because it would be so hypocritical just to pick on one religion."
1) I don't live in a country where those "other religions" are trying to impose their viewpoint on me and 2) I don't know enough about them to make a fair criticism. I do know enough about Christianity to do so...
When I was in fifth grade, I noticed in the sanitized New Testements that they gave us in Catholic School that there were major problems in Jesus geneology. First, they both traced through Joseph, who wasn't the sperm donor, God was. Secondly, they listed DIFFERENT people as his ancesters between Joe and King David. Well, I asked about this question, and the old lesbian in the habit hit with with a ruler for my troubles. That defines my lifelong relationship with your religion. I point out the pure absurdity of it, and you try to hit me with a ruler. Except I take that ruler and did what I WISH I had done to Sr. Mary Butch. |
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"He usually likes to jump in with his insanity early in the day when no one is around to question him. If you notice most of his posts come one after another and then he departs before he actually has to be questioned on his beliefs."
Me- No, actually, I come here early in the day, because that's the only time I really have to do it. And a bit in the evenings. YOu see, I have a job and bills to pay...
"hatred... negativity and hatred...hatred and intolerance...serious hatred..hatred for Christianity...blah, blah blah "
Yawn, that's right, when you don't have a coherent answer, accuse the other side of hate. Such as "Why do you Hate America" or "Why do you hate Black Men". I brought up a legitimate criticism of your bible, it contains passages that are unacceptable to modern 21st century people. (the civilized ones, anyway.) Is this REALLY the best counterargument you guys have?
"What we do know about you is that you have a serious hatred for anyone who has chosen to live their life as a Christian. "
I'm sorry, never met a "Christian" in my life. I've met a whole lot of loud mouthed hypocrites who call themselves Christians, but I've never met one of you people who got what Jesus was trying to say... usually the opposite.. |
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"axinine and septic only care about 2 issues the only freedoms they believe in are gay sex and abortion . those two would be in hog heaven if they had a gay abortionist to defend . pretty sorry couple of idiots ."
And, surprise, surprise...they're both the only REAL conservatives on this blog.
BWAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!
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How is LOTR gay??? And how does that have anything to do with some punk and his obviously ignorant behavior.
I am so far to the right of Rush Limbaugh it's sick but this looks like another fever pitch Mega-Mart Christians in olive oil routine.
I would never deface a Bible or condone someone in doing so but the idea that somehow the Baptist or Assembly of the Golden Goat crowd can whitewash their way past judgement day is akin to Joseph Smiths claims that salvation goes through him. It's all a bunch of BS!!!
So maybe he is the actor that played Gandolph I guessing; well he didn't write the books.
As a Lutheran I am sick of you not so holy rollers and your arogant nonsense. Go ahead start talking about Luther he wasn't perfect and neither are you so shut up and pull your head out of the comode.
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You did a great job with Axe. He usually likes to jump in with his insanity early in the day when no one is around to question him. If you notice most of his posts come one after another and then he departs before he actually has to be questioned on his beliefs. The man is certainly not worth much time but once in a while you just have to jump in and step on his head. It is sad though to think that someone is so consumed with hatred. Funny but I find a few here that have that same problem. As I said must be a very sad existence.
I too believe in God and am never ashamed to admit it. |
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You did a bang up job saying what I was trying to get to. Thanks! I will never engage with him again. I do not have the time or energy to deal with such negativity and hatred. BTW I do believe in God. I do not want anyone to think I am ashamed of that fact. |
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a little touchy are you not? you do not seem to grasp economic freedom at all . you are currently not required to buy health insurance ,you have the option of seeking healthcare from several companies. proper reform would increase the numbers of companies you could purchase insurance from and the ensuing competion would lower the price . you would push the worst of the worst upon us in the form of a goverment option which amounts to a defacto monoploly that forces its customer to purchase its product at gunpoint . if you refuse to pay the irs will arrest you and confiscate your property and deprive you of your freedom . your ignorance is astounding .
your defense of gay sex and abortion only reinforces my opinion of you and other libs as hedonistic spoiled children that want someone else to pay for everything and lack the discipline to reign in their personal lusts consequences be damned.
yes i have a trophy wife and have been married to her for 30 years= and she is still a trophy . moron |
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What we do know about you is that you have a serious hatred for anyone who has chosen to live their life as a Christian. You are such a typical left wing loon filled with hatred and intolerance for those who will not buy into you radical ideas.
In this currently free country no one forces you to read the bible, no one forces you to attend church and no on forces you to live a Christian lifestyle. That is not good enough for you libs. Yours must really be a sad existence with nothing to believe in but your hatred for Christianity. Very sad indeed but in this fine country you have the freedom to enjoy your empty life just like the Christians have the freedom to enjoy their life. I guarantee their lives are far more fullfilling than yours. |
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I am going to answer you one more time and then I give up. You do not want personal attacks on you, yet you label me a Bible thumper. How do you know what I believe. The subject here was ripping pages out of a Bible. Not the content of that Bible. Also, you must be exhausted going around pointing out hypocrisy in all religions. You do, don't you? Because it would be so hypocritical just to pick on one religion. I know what you are trying to do but marginalizing conservatives as a religiously intolerant collective will not work. IMHO :) |
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Problem solved
Someone put a copy of the Koran in his next hotel room with a note showing which verses he would also find offensive.
He won't be around much longer to do much else after word got out.
Me- So that's your big plan? You want Christianity to be as angry, violent and intolerant as you claim Islam is?
Incidently, the entire Koran includes only four verses condeming homosexuality...
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/quran/gay/long.html
As opposed to 38 in the Bible...
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/gay/long.htm
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"Yeah, Cheryl, keep making comments about CWTAE personal life (even though you don't know the man), because we can't possibly refute a single point he makes. Because if I had to use a bit of the brainpower that God gave me to refute him, my brain would fry."
Sorry, guy, you are laughable, and you just prove my point. You want to establish a society based on the Bible when 1) You don't really know what's in it, 2) You can't really explain away some of the truly sadistic things in there and 3) When someone point those things out, your worldview is threatened. |
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Axe Eugene
You People? What does that mean? Are you putting everyone here in a box. Like bigots do? Wow, guess you just exposed yourself a little too much. Like I said, maybe some fresh air would be good for you. BTW, who appointed you the Bible reviewer anyway?
Me- Putting everyone here in a box....hmmmmm what a tempting idea.
I wasn't aware that one needed to be appointed a "bible reviewer". I thought the purpose of the thing was to be a guide. All I'm doing is asking questions, like is God really pro-life if he supports a verse like Psalms 139:9? Tell me true, did you know that verse existed before I pointed it out to you? (This is honest Bible Thumper Time...let's see if you pass.)
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Your analysis of Axe is right on. He sadly is very deranged and needs to chill. People like Axe never really add anything to the discussion but do spew plenty of sick hatred. We can only hope he will take your suggestion and go away and never come back. |
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Now, the freedoms you whine about us opposing, such as, I guess, the freedom of Insurance Companies to rip off their customers, again, I go back to my point about your arm and my nose. When I pay good money for insurance, I expect it to be there when I have a need. That's the risk the insurer took. So, yeah, if the current law allows them to break their promises, I'm all for changing the law, and if need be, create a single government entity that will handle these things because, honestly, I wouldn't put my life in the hands of someone who could potentially profit from my death.
I also don't want big companies polluting my air, selling me defective products, or sending my good paying job overseas, and yup, if we have to pass laws restricting their freedoms to protect our own, I'm all for that. |
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NOTW
axinine and septic only care about 2 issues the only freedoms they believe in are gay sex and abortion . those two would be in hog heaven if they had a gay abortionist to defend . pretty sorry couple of idiots .
Me- Well, at least we understand the concept of "Freedom".
Here's the thing. As a dude, I'm never going to have an abortion, and I'm never going to have gay sex because, honestly, I don't cross on that side of the street. (Yes, there are straight men comfortable enough in their sexuality where they don't feel threatened... so what's your problem.)
But it's not my place to tell someone that they can't do those things. There's an old saying about Freedom, your freedom to swing your arm ends at my nose.
For instance, I think that you should have the right to live YOUR life by your interpretation of the Big Book of Judean Fairy Tales (AKA The Bible). BUt by and large, that isn't good enough for you guys. You want to impose your interpretation on not only those of us who reject the bible, but those who read the same bible and come up with very different interpretations. After all, the Bible NEVER specifically condemns abortion nor classifies a fetus as a person, and there are many other 'abominations' in teh Bible like eating shellfish. Jesus never condemned homosexuality or abortion, but he roundly condemned divorce.
(Didn't you brag about having a "trophey wife"? What happened to the "Starter Wife"?) |
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You People? What does that mean? Are you putting everyone here in a box. Like bigots do? Wow, guess you just exposed yourself a little too much. Like I said, maybe some fresh air would be good for you. BTW, who appointed you the Bible reviewer anyway? |
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You miss the point. My goal is to expose religious conservatism as the totally ludicrous notion as it is. And frankly, you people give me LOTS of material to work with.
I don't need to tear pages out of the bible. What's in the Bible actually provides me with the best material. What becomes obvious to me, having done this for a while, is that most of you people have never read large parts of the Bible that your clergy don't want you to read.
You people insist that we should deny gays rights because, hey, the Bible Says So. The Bible also says to smash in the heads of babies
Psalms 137:9 "Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones."
Man, great stuff. |
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Dude, if you hate the opinions here so much---leave. Just don't come back. You are just like the guy tearing pages out of a Bible. It is deranged behavior, some kind of sickness. Normal people cannot sustain this kind of anger day after day without being totally on the verge of going postal. Chill out. Go on vacation. Go for a walk. Relax. And just don't come back. ;) |
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"Not surprised.
Most gays have a fierce hatred of God who has a zero tolerance policy towards the gay lifestyle in The Kingdom of Heaven. Gays can either listen to God who says "repent" or Satan who urges them on in their sexual evil. It is that simple."
Me- Yeah, they can be just like Ted Haggard and Larry Craig, manly examples of heterosexuality....uh, no, wait.
Hey, Allan, I was wondering when you were going to start protesting against Red Lobster, since God also says that eating shellfish is an "abomination".
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Harry Potter vs the Bible
Sorry Sceptic tank, but there is a big difference that you don't get.
Potter is ambiguously lacking true good and evil. Relative truths without clear good and evil. Sadly even Star Wars understood the importance of such clarity.
Me- Sorry, NOTW, good fiction never paints in such black and white. The monster never looks in the mirror and sees a monster. Even Adolf Hitler saw himself as "good". (And frankly, as far as writing, Star Wars suck. You probably just don't notice the bad dialog and plot flaws because the Special Effects are so awesome.)
Speaking of works of fiction, I've read your bible, I'm having a hard time seeing who is "good" and "evil" reading it.
Your God- Flooded the entire world, killing every man, woman and child save 8, to "rid it of evil", and then admitted evil can't be eliminated.
He then blew up Sodom and Gomorrah, but decided to save a "righteous" guy named Lot, who happily offered up his two virgin daughters to a mob to be gang-raped. Lot went on to commmit incest with both of his daughter in a drunken stupor. Righteous Lot. Says so in the Bible. RIIIIIIGHT.
AH, then we get to the 10 plagues of Egypt, the torturing of the Hebrews in the desert for 40 years. The Numerous plagues, suffering, etc. God inflicts on his "chosen" people. But God is Good, right?
Then we get to the other character in this work of "fiction", Satan. You know how many people Satan actually kills in the Bible? Ten. He kills the Children of Job in a bar bet with God that he can get Job to curse God.
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"Two ways to handle things...
If a conservative doesn't like guns, he doesn't buy one.
If a liberal doesn't like guns, he feels that no one should have one."
Me- And Conservatards are different how.
A liberal doesn't like abortion, she doesn't have one.
A conservative doesn't like abortion, he goes out and shoots an abortion doctor.
A liberal doesn't like gay sex, he doesn't have it.
A conservative doesn't like gay sex, he ties Matt Shepard to a fence and sets the poor kid on fire.
Give me liberals any day of the week.
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DN-He never did. It's just convenient here to act as if he read it. He reads nothing that wasn't found in a homosexual website for the purpose of replying to others. They come here huntin' bear with a switch. (We cut them new @ss-holes.)
Me- And yet you never seem to be able to respond to some of the legitimate questions I bring up. How can a God who demanded Jephthah sacrifice his daughter because of a foolish oath be worthy of my worship?
DN - So what? Even some who really know the Bible can misinterpret.
Me- Yeah, you guys have been slaughtering each other for thousands of years over such disagreements...
DN- (On God's slaughters) SURE, and Job said it perfectly; "The Lord giveth and the Lord taketh away. Blessed be the name of the Lord." What it means, Cretin-- is Somebody's in charge; HE owns the whole franchize. NOT a pipsqueak like you. These weren't murders. They were death by natural causes --sent by God, who OWNS the whole ball of wax.
Me- Why am I not surprised that a sociopath like Dread worships a God who is a sociopath? Incidently, I don't believe any of those things actually happened. There isn't enough water in teh world to totally flood it, and Egyptian records never mention the Hebrews or plagues. But I find it interesting that you revel in a God who slaughters children with such little regard, but then call yourself "pro-life".
DN- Spoken like a stark raving mad apostate who may run out his days hanging himself. (We don't expect lunatics to understand God.)
Me - HOnestly, if I were God, I think you'd be the last person I'd want making my case. YOu make the atheist case better than I or Richard Dawkins ever could.
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Most gays have a fierce hatred of God who has a zero tolerance policy towards the gay lifestyle in The Kingdom of Heaven. Gays can either listen to God who says "repent" or Satan who urges them on in their sexual evil. It is that simple. |
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I believe you talked about the thread of larry david and his hbo show pizzzing on the picture of Christ, you said something brilliant like if you don't like the show turn the channel and don't watch it, but in your case if you see a bible you say you would throw it in a dumpster, why not even look at the bible idiot, like we shouldn't watch hbo? DumbAZZZZZ. |
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Gaydolf starred in so many of those "Ring" movies.
He thoroughly enjoyed being surrounded by so many young boys.
Deviant behavior..... |
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It's clear that you have not read Locke's First Treatise. You owe Christianity more than you'll ever know, or ever be able to pay back.
I'm not a religious person, but I'd worship snakes before I'd worship your man-child messiah, Barry Soetoro. And you'd never catch me praying at Pelosi's alter. |
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Then when you hang yourself with an extension cord; does God take the blame?
You'll have to leave a note for the Toon Hall. Make it brief; under a thousand words, Sister Boy. |
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Tough call.
But they hit poorly. Nothing but foul balls comes off those weak sticks.
In the field, they're worse. Drives go up the middle and right through their legs.
That's right, paddy.
They're strictly bush league.
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I figured you already knew,
"Axeman...again, we all are very aware when you are writing your own opinion. There is no need to distinguish everything by labeling it "Me-".
Everything Cretino submits is about "Me," an EGO out of control. This is called by shrinks, megalomania.
By philosophers --Narcissism.
But, in fairness to our Mad Squealer, it's not under his control. Look at his posts; all mediocre thought despatched like rolling thunder;
But not from a thundercloud. Thunder from bloated roadkill.
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This is a lie:
"Actually, I have read the stories in the Bible."
He never did. It's just convenient here to act as if he read it. He reads nothing that wasn't found in a homosexual website for the purpose of replying to others. They come here huntin' bear with a switch. (We cut them new @ss-holes.)
So what?
Even some who really know the Bible can misinterpret.
God commits numerous slaughters of children, and encourages his followers to do the same. (The Flood, the Destruction of Sodom, the murder of Egypt's first born, etc.)"
SURE, and Job said it perfectly; "The Lord giveth and the Lord taketh away. Blessed be the name of the Lord." What it means, Cretin-- is Somebody's in charge; HE owns the whole franchize. NOT a pipsqueak like you. These weren't murders. They were death by natural causes --sent by God, who OWNS the whole ball of wax.
"Seriously, the God of your bible."
NOT seriously, since you don't even have all your marbles.
"This God comes off like--" We know! Like God,
We hope you don't OBJECT?
". . . who tortures and kills people for laughs and he isn't worthy of anyone's worship."
Spoken like a stark raving mad apostate who may run out his days hanging himself. (We don't expect lunatics to understand God.)
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Good points about conservatives and liberals.
By the way, next time anyone compares Christians to Talibun, ask that person how much time they have spent in a mostly Muslim country.
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axinine and septic only care about 2 issues the only freedoms they believe in are gay sex and abortion . those two would be in hog heaven if they had a gay abortionist to defend . pretty sorry couple of idiots . |
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Well, if you represent the left, then thank you for showing why the left is perpetually like a 15 year old going through puberty, hormones and all.
Axeman...again, we all are very aware when you are writing your own opinion. There is no need to distinguish everything by labeling it "Me-".
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Who's apitchin' and who's acatchin'......? |
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Another lovely couple.
They belong together, too. |
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I pray for his soul that he might one day decide to take a few minutes and read the rest of the story in the most sacred of books. Unfortunately, he's displaying the mantra of "tolerance" from the homosexual: you must accept me and what I do, but I can't accept you because you won't accept me.
Me- Actually, I have read the stories in the Bible. God commits numerous slaughters of children, and encourages his followers to do the same. (The Flood, the Destruction of Sodom, the murder of Egypt's first born, etc.) My favorite was when 42 children were mauled by two she-bears for making fun of Elijah's bald head. You all talk about how the lions spared Daniel, but you don't tell the rest of the story about how the wives and children of the men who "slandered" Daniel were thrown to the lions.
Seriously, the God of your bible comes off like the Joker or Jigsaw or some other psychotic movie villian who tortures and kills people for laughs.... and he isn't worthy of anyone's worship.
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"And what would be wrong with...
If you disagreed or don't believe in the Bible, is anyone forcing you to read if if you find one ion the hotel room drawer? Why not just ignore it? Why would you feel compelled to vandalize it?
Most hotels I visit have porn available on their TV's. I believe porn to be a scourge and extremely damaging to individuals and families, but I don't break the TV. I just ignore it and don't watch. Wouldn't that be a more mature way to handle the Bible situation Septic Breath?"
Me- What you don't have a copy of "Naughty Mormon Sister Wives" in your collection?
Personally, I'd just add the following warning label to all the bibles I encounter.
"This is a work of Fiction, do not take it seriously. Content Advisory- Contains descriptions and/or verses advocating suicide, incest, bestiality, sadomasochism, sexual activity in a violent context, undermining of authority figures, human rights violations and attrocities. Exposure to contents for extended periods of time or during formative years may cause delusions, decreased objective and congnetive reasoning skills, and in extreme cases, pathological disorders, hatred, bigotry, and violence including, but not limited to genocide, murder and fanaticism."
That pretty much fixes it.
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and fantasy. your bible, the koran, all of it.
Not part of my life, ever.
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who you really are. The gigs up, your a pathetic liar, and one who has absolutely NO credibility here at Th(you probably have NO credibility anywhere). Conservatives laugh you off, as nothing more than our pincushion. Your posts are laughable lies. Do you have no pride? |
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"kaboom" was run out on rail, for serial lying. She is unable to tell the truth, simply unable. This is one sick puppy, and a puppy that again needs to be run off on that same rail. Don't feed her mental illness, further, by engaging in debate with her. Just think about it, she was laughed off this blog earlier because she was caught lying repeatedly. She left, shamed, only to change her handle, and come back to continue her lyin' ways. Most people would simply move on, but not this sick puppy. Obsessed, deranged, pathetic, what makes someone go to this extent just so they can engage in dishonest debate? Please, shes sick, don't feed her mental illness. Leave her to it. |
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Too bad you don't get it. Even we you took the bible as a secular guidebook for life, this country would be better off.
Hey Scepty, guess which book has over 2000 verses about how to be responsible with money? Thats twice as much as it the next subject, love, and 4 times as many as on marriage.Yeah, no relevance whatsoever...
Of course you draw from your family experience as Kadoom...go ahead, remind us of how screwed up your sisters kids are. (and just because you change your name, doesn't mean you are not still the liar you were labeled as Kadumb). |
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don't know if he's a leftist--he's just not a hateful homophobe. He could be a conservative.
And NOTW, your bible may have relevance to your daily life. It has none in mine. I don't know any muslims to fear. What muslim group in this country has tried to stop gay marriage? Roman catholics and mormons have done that, though, so those folks I despise. Muslims haven't done anything to me or mine.
Do you? I do know lots of holier than thou christians who think they are better because they believe in that book of fables. They lie and cheat, but they believe that jesus died for their sins, so they are fine with their lives of 'sin'.
And I haven't destroyed any bibles. As I said, I haven't seen a bible in a hotel in 20 years.
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....and like almost all homosexuals, he is anything but gay. |
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At least the bible has relevance to daily life.
Again, you are clueless to the universal idea of how man has taught wisdom and rites of passage throughout history.
No, I am not envious of Muslims. I find it funny that Liberal's intolerance is trumped by their fear of death at the hands of a muslim for desecrating their symbols.
Go ahead, you have my permission to destroy a Koran and a Bible in public. See who tolerates you more.
How did you get so old yet remain 15 in your brain? |
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"intolerant people are not entitled to tolerance."
So by all means, let's be intolerant to them.
Idiot.
PS: Like most Leftists, McKellen has no class.
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You can rip out all the pages from the Bible you want, but that still doesn't change the truth or make it go away. In the end, you will face the Author. |
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the bible is a book of fables. You know that. |
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you are full of platitudes, aren't you?
And you really envy the muslims, don't you? Gosh, if you were just as brave as the muslims, you'd be so happy!
Lucky the early believers in christ were braver than people like you are. |
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Sorry Sceptic tank, but there is a big difference that you don't get.
Potter is ambiguously lacking true good and evil. Relative truths without clear good and evil. Sadly even Star Wars understood the importance of such clarity.
Since you are so clueless as to the concept, do yourself a favor and learn something. Study Joseph Campbells teachings. You'd like him since he was an atheist. Yet he understood the moral lessons of stories that came from every corner of the world through out time. Sadly Harry Potter has little value when put into that context (other than making people rich). |
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Someone put a copy of the Koran in his next hotel room with a note showing which verses he would also find offensive.
He won't be around much longer to do much else after word got out.
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If a conservative doesn't like guns, he doesn't buy one.
If a liberal doesn't like guns, he feels that no one should have one.
If a conservative is a vegetarian, he doesn't eat meat.
If a liberal is, he wants to ban all meat products for everyone.
If a conservative sees a foreign threat, he thinks about how to defeat his enemy.
A liberal wonders how to surrender gracefully and still look good.
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If a black man or Hispanic are conservative, they see themselves as independently successful.
Their liberal counterparts see themselves as victims in need of government protection.
If a conservative is down-and-out, he thinks about how to better his situation.
A liberal wonders who is going to take care of him.
If a conservative doesn't like a talk show host, he switches channels..
Liberals demand that those they don't like be shut down.
If a conservative is a non-believer, he doesn't go to church.
A liberal non-believer wants any mention of God or religion silenced..
If a conservative decides he needs health care, he goes about shopping for it, or may choose a job that provides it.
A liberal demands that the rest of us pay for his. |
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You, Jax and Val are all insulting to TH.
Mind if we apply the liberal solution to something we don't like by throwing you all out all together?
Isnt that the liberal way? |
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Nah....That would be as childish as say....ripping pages from a bible because you don't like what it says about phags. |
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Bad enough with that sick, Hollywood creep, Larry David.
Now we have Ian McKellen.
McKellen thinks it's just marvelous that pages of the bible are torn out and "put on a string so I can hang them up in the bathroom".
WOW! What a sick pervert.
What a lovely couple they make. McKellen and David.
They belong together, too.
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fondly on how fundamentalist muslims handle such 'insults'.
And that you feel the need to insult me because you have no better argument.
Break the tv if you don't like porn. |
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on a plane homeward bound;
with McCockbite as the loser;
Richard III,
And even with an 88 gazillion pounds budget; that movie gets NO thumbs at all--
He's got a mug to give children nightmares, first. His acting gave us the creeps; which for Shakespeare is all wrong.
I own a video of this play with Olivier as Richard (OK, who tops him?) and as the wicked King Richard, his work was spellbinding.
Mac the Gay is no king; even a dirty, malformed one. "My kingdom for a horse!" is a propos for the actor; who likely would love being buggered by Black Gold. |
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Libs have no control when it comes to destroying good things. What Obama is doing to our country is a perfect example. |
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And now we know why he was so "fond" of frodo and sam. |
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If you disagreed or don't believe in the Bible, is anyone forcing you to read if if you find one ion the hotel room drawer? Why not just ignore it? Why would you feel compelled to vandalize it?
Most hotels I visit have porn available on their TV's. I believe porn to be a scourge and extremely damaging to individuals and families, but I don't break the TV. I just ignore it and don't watch. Wouldn't that be a more mature way to handle the Bible situation Septic Breath? |
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for Ian so that he can find the bible and tear off the offensive pages. Did he consider doing that with the Koran? ooops! that would offend the muslim in chief and we can't have him getting offended when he has promised to change the don't ask, don't tell policy to 'pray do tell, then Allah will judge you'
Do progressives believe President Hussein will actually go against the Quran and vote for homosexuals right to marry and serve in the military?
Maybe that is why they are tearing the pages off the bible - the president opposes same sex marriage and is not about to end the don't ask, don't tell policies because he is 'a believer of the Quoran and it's teachings about homosexuality'.
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You are a laugh riot!!! Intolerant people are not entitled to tolrance: Sieg Heil Scepy???? |
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Stop the BS. No respectable establishment would let you through the front door. Of course it is hard to control who rummages through their garbage. |
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Does the Koran include Leviticus? If so than Ian is looking for some real trouble.
I think the Koran does include Sodom and Gomarroah and Ian is leaving that alone, so I am guessing that he knows that Christians will be a more lenient than Muslims in this. |
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tolerance. Book burning? No, we'll leave that to you reactionaries who like to ban books. |
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"Now we know
why he really liked that white staff."
It's too close to quitting time and I almost threw out my back. If you're going to make me laugh that hard, do it in the morning so I get a paid day at home. |
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"..you betcha
bibles in a hotel room are insulting."
Perhaps those books should be, ahem, burned?
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The closest Sceptycoccus ever was to the Four Seasons was outside looting that dumpster.
Silly isn't it; how the worst low-lives try to put on airs of living large? Motel 6 is this mutt's regular crash-site. They know him/her there, since he p i m ps the brat in places where lost homosexuals spy out a one-night shag.
He's closer to the Bible than to Four Seasons / Silly liar! |
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why he really liked that white staff. |
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In most hotels, the Bible is in a drawer. Ian has to look for something that offends him? Is n't that intolerance? |
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After all, isn't this the message of tolerance homosexuals and progressives like the president are always preaching to us the 'intolerant right' or is it extremists? They keep changing their insults, it's hard to keep up.
At any rate, it's good to see them exercising that message of 'tolerating differences' that they so like to talk about. And I especially love the way the hate crimes from this man and his cohorts will not be punished.
Their anger can't be cured and for all their talk of 'tolerance' they are the most intolerant bunch we'll ever see in America. Now imagine if they were the majority? OMG, they would make the sharia abiding taliban seem like the ACLU (all things included) |
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As a former employee of Four Seasons Hotels, I can assure you they were there....
Perhaps they removed them from your room about the same time they were alerted to your presence by the local mental health authorities...... |
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Gideon Bible sales up 38%. Publisher experiencing windfall profits replacing vandalized hotel copies. |
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bibles in a hotel room are insulting.
Let's see, I've stayed at the Four Seasons in Vegas, SF, Philly, and the Plaza in NY. No bibles.
I think people need to steal them and throw them in the nearest dumpster. Fables. Maybe replace them with a Harry Potter book. No difference, fiction wise. |
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following on Mr. Hengler's post just below.
Ian McKellen is a drunk. The fact that he's an old gay drunk doesn't add any benefit to him.
Along with a group of fromer RSC players, Richard Johnson, Ricahrd Paco, etc, ... McKellen has been pickling himself for over fifty years.
He has bad protoplasm now ... he'll be dead before his need for salvation is known to him.
"Put out the light, ... it is the cause."
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When are these jerks in the entertainment industry going to quit ruining my ability to enjoy their work? There goes one of my favorites, the lord of the rings. I don't think Tolkien would have approved but I can't speak for him, only myself. Ripping pages out of bibles, how typical, hey sir Ian, why not try ripping pages out of the koran? What a moron. |
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Meredith is another book-burner, anti-free speech zealot......
These kids today, I swear. The grew up in a PC environment and have no idea what freedom means.
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Patently false....
....as usual. |
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are you applauding the defacing of bibles? |
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tearing the page out does not remove the thought |
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that he might one day decide to take a few minutes and read the rest of the story in the most sacred of books. Unfortunately, he's displaying the mantra of "tolerance" from the homosexual: you must accept me and what I do, but I can't accept you because you won't accept me.
Don't give up Christians; keep telling the truth in love. If someone like this clown wants to continue desecrating a book he doesn't like, they're in for a rude awakening one day because they failed to read through it, especially the final chapters. I only hope he'll come to discover that before it's too late. |
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by tearing pages out of LOTR copies wherever I find them... |
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actually, few decent hotels have bibles anymore.
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