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Wednesday, February 28, 2007
Giuliani & Partners
Posted by: Matt Lewis at 9:09 PM

Many conservatives, including myself, continue to be surprised and impressed by Rudy Giuliani’s poll numbers. To be sure, he’s a very likable candidate, but conventional wisdom insisted that, once he entered the race, his liberal social stances would doom GOP Primary chances.

In fact, a new poll shows Rudy Giuliani doing surprisingly well among Evangelical voters.

Still, it's early, and fair to say that most conservatives don’t know the extent of Giuliani’s positions. Most conservative voters probably don’t know, for example, that, as Mayor, Giuliani supported -- not just abortion rights -- but partial-birth abortion. (So far, when it has come up on the trail, Rudy has adeptly parried the questions by changing the subject to “safety and security,” or by pledging to appoint judges who will be “strict constructionists”.)

But while many conservatives continue to believe his past positions on social issues will eventually catch up to him, it is much more likely that his past associations will do him far more harm.

His support of Bernard Kerik to be head of Homeland Security was one such instance.

Kerik, of course, had two mistresses, an illegal nanny, and had ignored past arrest warrants (and those are, perhaps, the nicest things you could say about him). Still, Rudy Giuliani had no problem appointing him to be New York’s top cop – and (even worse) recommending him to head the Department of Homeland Security,

After embarrassing President Bush, Kerik was given a job with Giuliani Partners. (Last year, Kerik was fined over $200,000 for two misdemeanor corruption charges.)

So why is Rudy still so revered? As it turns out, Giuliani got out of office at the right time. His term expired in 2002 (although, as you might recall, he did attempt to stay on longer, for the sake of New York). By virtue of his term expiring in 2002, Rudy left on a very high note. As such, his 9-11 image as “America’s Mayor” has covered a multitude of sins. Whether you’re Jerry Seinfeld (who, by choice, ended his TV show on a high note) or James Dean (who died young), leaving the public wanting more is a good way to ensure a positive legacy. I’ve made the point before that if George W. Bush’s term ended in 2002, he would have been regarded as a great president, (but that’s another story).

While the Bernard Kerik incident was embarrassing to both Bush and Giuliani, the Kerik faux-pas wouldn't be so alarming if it were a single instance of bad judgment. It is not. Giuliani’s pattern of continued questionable associations may ultimately be what disrupts his progress with Evangelicals, and undermines his credibility on safety and security issues, too (as they relate to personal appointments).

The story centers around a man you’ve probably never heard of: Alan Placa, another Giuliani associate, who, as a Priest, was accused of “groping” a student in high school in the mid-1970s.

As you will read, Placa is an extremely close Giuliani associate, who also just happens to be accused of molesting a child and, perhaps worse, using the system to cover it up. The story goes back to a 2002 Newsday article about a January day in 1975, when a teenager volunteered to help make banners for the annual Right to Life march in Washington.

According to the story, the student claims:

“(Monsignor Alan Placa) pulled out some posters in the deserted administrative area as if to show him something, and then began fondling him – all the while making conversation about the posters. Tollner said the incidents repeated every month or so for the next year and a half.”

First, let me explicitly state that Placa denies any wrongdoing – and he has never been charged with a crime.

But it is also true that the Diocese of Rockville Centre has removed him from wearing the collar and performing any official duties.

It should also be noted that a Grand Jury report paints a devastating picture of sexual deviancy and molestation in his Diocese -- the Rockville Centre Diocese. According to the National Catholic Reporter:

“The report documents allegations of the rape of cheerleaders and altar boys, of acts of molestation and seductions in churches, rectories, on camping trips, and in the homes of the minors who were abused. It tells of instances in which priests provided minors with pornography and alcohol, and of cases in which the diocese received allegations and didn’t report them to police, but instead transferred the accused priests to other parishes.”

While this report does not mention Placa, it is possible he was one of the 58 “abusive Priests” alluded to. This is particularly concerning, because, as head of the so-called “Intervention Team,” he was tasked with handling the sexual abuse allegations and protecting the diocese from liability, The grand jury found that Placa may have been involved in an attempt to sweep the allegations under the rug. Again, according to the National Catholic Reporter:

“ … The grand jury has charged that while the team tried to appear sympathetic to victims, its goal was actually protecting the diocese through discouraging lawsuits, persuading victims to not go public with accusations and assisting abusive priests in efforts to remain in ministry. Though the grand jury report didn’t name the team, according to Newsday, one of the members was, in all likelihood, Msgr. Alan Placa, the diocese’s former vice chancellor …”

IN THE SUFFOLK COUNTY SUPREME COURT GRAND JURY REPORT, Placa (by his own admission) is  referred to as “Priest F,” a Priest who engaged in pedophilia. Even after the grand jury testimony Rudy stood by him. And in another 2003 New York Times article, Placa described the zero tolerance policy on priests as “immoral and unchristian.”

That same year, the New York Times also reported that, “Placa was the architect of the diocese’s legal strategy, a national expert in the field and the crucial member of the intervention team. Several months after the panel was ended in April, he was suspended from the ministry after being accused of abusing children.”

Additionally, the 2002 Newsday story included a quote from Kevin Waldron, a fellow high school friend who corroborates Tollner’s story, saying Tollner told him of the events after they happened. The Newsday story goes on to say:

“A second former student, who asked that his name be withheld, said he described to Suffolk prosecutors what he called ‘the newspaper drill.’ ‘He always had a New York Times in his office. And he’d sit down next to you on the couch in his office and open it wide and, inevitably, his hand would brush your crotch,’ the man said. ‘He did it over and over again, I can’t tell you how many times.’ That man said he felt so violated that he wrote Placa an unsigned letter 20 years later, blaming him for his loss of interest in pursuing the priesthood.”

Despite the allegations, Giuliani hired Placa right after all this went down, and he remains with him today (based on news reports and my call to the Giuliani Partners office). And as the New York Times reported in 2002, amid allegations, Giuliani jumped to Placa’s defense, saying: “He’s one of the people I admire most in the world, and if most people did half the good that Alan’s done, the world would be a wonderful place.”

Considering Giuliani’s relationship with the guy (he annulled his wedding to his 2nd cousin and was best man in his first wedding) it is not surprising that he has a certain amount of loyalty to him. According to last week’s Newsday story:

“... despite the controversy, Giuliani gave his old friend Placa a job at Giuliani Partners, and Michael Hess, a partner at the firm and the ex-mayor's corporation counsel, handled Placa's legal matters.”

If Placa is, in fact, innocent, this may be one of the most heroic lines I’ve read; if he’s guilty, it’s one of the most disturbing.

So how does this play into the 2008 race? Leaders are entrusted to make decisions. In essence, leaders are often in the business of saying to the public: “trust me on this one.” But this is a dangerous business to be in. If President Bush was wrong about Russian President Vladmir Putin’s character (even after looking at his soul), it is plausible that Mayor Giuliani made an honest mistake about Placa.

During the Clinton Presidency, Rush Limbaugh often made the point that an unusual number of Bill Clinton’s friends were either dead or in jail. If a man is truly known by the company he keeps, then Rudy Giuliani’s associations may imply something about his character. At the very least, they may imply something about his judgment.

One of the most important things a President does is appoint people to perform various important jobs.

It is entirely possible for a leader to be a very good and trustworthy person, yet still lack judgment in other people. Now, if you’re a middle-manager at a retail store, this could be written off as a “quirk.” But at the presidential level, where your appointee’s wield so much power over the lives of others, this lack of perspicacity is both damning and disqualifying. Rudy Giuliani – whom I like and admire – has teetered dangerously close to this line.

Whether or not Kerik or Placa are innocent or guilty, it is still interesting that Giuliani has surrounded himself by so many people who have, at least, questionable backgrounds. What is more, he has invited both of them to be part of his business -- in spite of the evidence and allegations. It’s one thing to stay friends with someone with a past, and it’s quite another thing to do business with them.



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Virginia Patriot writes: Wednesday, February, 28, 2007 10:05 PM
Good Reporting Matt
Stuff we need to know before we're all herded onto the Rudy train. Baaaah. We need to all get behind Rudy. Baaaaah.

The primary responsibility of the U.S. government is to protect the territorial integrity and people of this country. They have completely abdicated this responsibility. Both parties have been complicit in this. We are being told it is not possible to control our borders, enforce our laws, and thereby control our destiny as a nation. Hogwash. We are being sold out by corporations intent on importing workers for jobs that can't be exported with the taxpayers paying the true costs, financial and human. If we act like sheep and don't stop the inundation across our borders, we will lose our country without a bleat.
Judi writes: Wednesday, February, 28, 2007 10:12 PM
Giuliani
No matter what negatives there are about Giuliani, I still support him because he can beat Clinton or Obama. These two are so far left that I am overlooking things I did not think I would two months ago. I am a protestant and very conservative. Maybe I would be considered an Evangelical, I am not sure. All I know is we must have someone who can lead and who can win. Someone who in many ways makes a lot of sense. We will not find the perfect conservative this time and may never ever. I think Giuliana is the best we are going to come up with. It's that simple.
Vote for Pedro writes: Wednesday, February, 28, 2007 10:21 PM
That is a great point.
The had Bush left office in 2002 idea is brilliant. You or whomever thought of that is a real genius for paralleling Bush in 2002 to Giuliani...
Vote for Pedro writes: Wednesday, February, 28, 2007 10:25 PM
Oh, and Matt
If you love McCain so much why don't you just marry him?!?!?
And with Hugh's boy Romney in the White House, it will be legal. Oh, maybe not, Romney may have changed his mind on that one too.
One note, while Rudy may not keep all the best company, at least he is consistent.
one hot minute writes: Thursday, March, 01, 2007 5:28 AM
McCain lags in polls, so Matt rips Rudy

Matt Lewis,

Is there any possibility in your black & white "Pleasantville" world that perhaps Rudy Giuliani MIGHT be doing the NOBLE thing by not throwing his longtime friends under the bus, since the serious allegations directed at them have yet to be proven truthful ?

It does appear you'll write just about anything in order to elicit any shadow of doubt on John McCain's opponents for the GOP nomination.
Why waste time articulating the reasons that folks should support your favored candidate John McCain, when you can just drag Giuliani and Romney thru the mud at any opportunity ?

In fact, I can just imagine you whispering under muffled breath to your friends at church about 'the two M's' who stand between your candidate McCain and the GOP nomination----"mafioso, and Mormon."

I see you went back and actually changed the headline for this particular post because your original headline suggested that Giuliani was a "Partner to Crime."
Niiiice, Matt.
By the way---what's stopping you from slipping in a reference to Marlon Brando in "The Godfather" ?

I also noticed you wrote, "...Giuliani has surrounded himself by so many people who have, at least, questionable backgrounds."

In Matt Lewis' world of hyperbolic arithmetic, "two friends" = "so many people."
So, if you were to drink just two beers, would you actually characterize yourself as having consumed "so many beers" ?

It's just a clever little trick of yours to conflate the meanings of different words---just as you did to FDR & Eleanor Roosevelt a couple weeks ago when you stated they were "cousins," when indeed, they were FIFTH cousins once removed.
No matter, you conflated "cousin" with "fifth cousin once removed" because it made their marriage sound much weirder than it was.

Matt, with trashy posts like this, you marginalize the Townhall brand name which Hugh, Dean, M-Kat, and Michael Medved have worked hard to establish.
TACO KISSES writes: Thursday, March, 01, 2007 7:56 AM
Bravo Matt!
Rudy is a fraud. He has NO morals or values.
Sister M. Immaculata Dunn writes: Thursday, March, 01, 2007 10:05 AM
Diocese of Rockville Centre and Placa
I have a big problem with Rudy Giuliani and the Diocese of Rockville Centre.

I don't know why the diocese hasn't pulled the plug on Alan Placa. Has the bishop referred this to Rome and have the procedures been started to have Placa laicized?

If they have not they certainly should have been started by now. Placa is allowed too much leeway here and should be silenced by the bishop.

One wonders if he is allowed so much freedom is because he knows where too many of the bones are buried?

Interesting question.
SecularJoe writes: Thursday, March, 01, 2007 11:30 AM
The Fundamentals Give Us a Clue
On 2/27 the New York Sun reports that “Mayor Giuliani is calling on the Republican Party to redefine itself as ‘the party of freedom,’ focusing on lower taxes, school choice, and a health care system rooted in free market principles.” Those who believe the Right is the party of principles should understand the effects, in terms of fundamentals, of the mentality of a man who values a concept like “the party of freedom” and policies like lower taxes, school choice and health care via the free market.

For example, his proposed policies and the fundamentals at their root, neutralizes the concerns of those opposed to open borders. Will the influx of immigrants go to school while we pay? Giuliani sees that school choice is important (i.e. school vouchers). With school vouchers, free market education will be in play. You pay for yours and others will pay for theirs.

Take his policy of lower taxes and health care via the free market. Businesses could eventually have more than enough elbow room to grow and hire the best available for the most competitive, unregulated wage. With lower taxes and less regulation, business will not have to turn to the human resource black market (i.e. illegal aliens). Granted, immigrants with nothing but despotism to go home to will likely drive wages down a bit in certain industries, but this difference will be smaller with less regulation if you consider that regulations on wages often artificially inflate them.

Concern that the influx of immigrants will enable socialism to migrate with them is not as worrisome with the political mentality embodied in policies Giuliani advocates. Smaller government will result in much greater wealth and a more growth-oriented economy than we have today. This is, in every respect, more than socialism can offer. Plus, Giuliani is no socialist and he has stood up to them before. I suspect he will counter its advocates quite effectively given his views and his track record.

Also, his ability to uproot crime in New York by dealing with the fundamental elements that enable the criminal and, of course, his unquestionable support of the NYPD, leaves me with little doubt that he sees the way to eliminate terrorists concerns at the border is to enable the military to uproot it at its source.

This is ultimately what a government is for, to protect us and to keep us safe enough and unencumbered enough to do business with whomever we choose. The article itself suggests that Giuliani’s tactic is to keep the Right’s focus away from social issues on which he is less ideologically aligned. I wouldn’t blame him for using this tactic, after all, isn’t it inherent in his policies and in those of us that have long argued for smaller government that the government has not only become huge but way too intrusive in our private lives?
davy's crock writes: Thursday, March, 01, 2007 12:17 PM
I encourage all to check out Ron Paul
http://www.ronpaulexplore.com

If any of the MSM 3(Rudy, Mitt, Mc Cain) are the nominees for Repub Party, Demos will get the WH.

Ron Paul is the only candidate who could get the whole conservative base united, even gaining many independants and moderate Democrats.
SonnyJim writes: Thursday, March, 01, 2007 1:06 PM
Who else?
Okay, so Rudy has some questionable associations. You've reprinted the allegations; have you called or written to follow up?

What about McCain? Has he ever been in a position to appoint anyone to a position of trust? How do his long term friends stack up? Does he have any friends for whom he's shown similar loyalty?

What about Romney's friends and associates since he's actually been in a position from which to judge?
Darby writes: Thursday, March, 01, 2007 10:53 PM
Changing the Red-Blue Map
Michael Barone's analysis last week showed that Rudy's candidacy would put numerous blue states into play that Republicans would have no hope of winning otherwise. Consequently, to counter Rudy's appeal in states like New Jersey and California, the Dems will have to spend a great deal of money in the country's most expensive media markets that they will not have to spend if the Republicans nominate a movement conservative. And if Hillary continues to alienate African American voters by attacking Obama, the Dems will have no chance of picking up Southern states in which religious conservatives stay home from the polls, because African American voters will stay home as well.

Nominating Rudy and pairing him with a true-believer such as Rick Santorum is a brilliant strategy and one that the Dems cannot easily defeat.
Virginia Patriot writes: Thursday, March, 01, 2007 11:43 PM
Rudy could turn VA blue
Painting the map blue is my prediction of what happens if Rudy in the GOP nominee. If it comes down to 2 New York liberals, turnout will nosedive.
coyote7 writes: Friday, June, 22, 2007 6:11 PM
Ghouliani
yet another corrupt, inept, pathetically immoral $epublikan wants to foul the White House. Good luck rudy. You ain't got a chance...
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