Sunday, May 31, 2009
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Gwen Ifill: Don't We Want The Government Micro-Managing Car Companies?
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Posted by:
Greg Hengler at
1:44 PM
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Remember Gwen Ifill? She moderated the Vice Presidential debate in 2008 between Biden and Palin, while finishing her book titled, The Breakthrough: Politics and Race in the Age of Obama. Many questioned whether her book was pro-Obama; this clip should eliminate any more suspicions and cement her support for massively Big Government.
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Stupid comment. Her mindset is scary. It has nothing to do with race, it has to do with ideology. How much more of the economy and micromanagement do we need? The government needs to get out of the market and allow it to operate; GM should have gone bankrupt last year, and then would probably be on the way to recovery now. |
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Tiller the baby killer was shot and killed at a Kansas church today...I just read about it at the Huffington Post...Tiller is the abortion doctor who for $5,000.00 performed late term or partial birth abortions.
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"Stupid comment. Her mindset is scary. It has nothing to do with race, it has to do with ideology. How much more of the economy and micromanagement do we need? The government needs to get out of the market and allow it to operate; GM should have gone bankrupt last year, and then would probably be on the way to recovery now."
Are you out of your mind? If GM went bankrupt without the government agreeing to hold its hand, it'd be liquidated. Gone. There'd be absolutely no way for it to 'recover' unless the government was willing to spend an awful lot of money helping it out.
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Ifill is just another collectivist that believes in the premise 'if we all just work together' as a working thesis. The government is the absolutely last institution that should be trying to run something. They've ran every program into the ground, and now they think they can run a company. Please, this is absolutely laughable if we weren't going broke in the process. It's set up to fail. |
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GM should have gone into bankruptcy last year. Are not other companies that big allowed to go under and then try to come out of bankruptcy? So now the US taxpayer is going to prop GM up for how long? When is the US taxpayer going to bail me out? |
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hours of *VIGFM and see that Axeman-Scurvy-Roman-Instinctive Gesture-Sally and his evil spawn, Fwankums, are busy little hate mongers this bright and lovely Sunday.
Think I'll watch the Great Conservative game of Baseball...Yep.
*Vast Inexpressible GOOOOOOOD For Mankind* |
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"Frank
Stupid comment. Her mindset is scary. It has nothing to do with race, it has to do with ideology. How much more of the economy and micromanagement do we need? The government needs to get out of the market and allow it to operate; GM should have gone bankrupt last year, and then would probably be on the way to recovery now."
Me- You know what, after the absolute mess the private sector has made of the economy in the last two years, they just don't get to make this argument anymore.
If GM had been allowed to go bankrupt, we'd be looking at double digit unemployment right now. That's why the government intervened.
Now maybe they'll make good decisions, like building fuel efficient safe cars like the Germand and Japanese do. Oh, yeah, and guess what, Japan and Germany heavily invested in their auto industries... Imagine that.
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It's not the first time Dr. George Tiller was shot, however it will be the last time. Neither am I saddend of shocked by the news of his death.
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squids would be happy and celebratory IF Osama, any Hamas Butcher Leader, Akmaspitooey of Iran or his Boss Grand Ayatollah, Hezbollah Slime or al-Zawahiri were blown to bits...But, they'll be ALL outraged over some appropriate lead hitting this Late Term Baby Flusher.
Now...Baseball..GAWD created it for Consrvatives. |
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He should of been in jail, sympathy to his family, on their sad day. |
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Now...Baseball..GAWD created it for Consrvatives.
Me- A slow boring game where the players had to drug themselves with steroids in order to make it halfway watchable? Kind of like Rush Limbaugh, now that you think about it...
Um,wasn't this thread about the Auto Industry? |
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you have got to chill out it is getting so hard to understand what you are typing. |
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Historically, socialism, govt. ownership over free enterprise businesses has never worked. The bankruptcy agenda should have been put to use but Obama and the socialist pacifists want govt. control to make sure the serfs will continue to look to DC for aid, entitlements , because that is where all of our taxpayer monies are. They don't deserve it, but Obama has made a case for just this and so far the lemmings on the Left have bought it though in the long run it will simply destroy capitalism and liberties. We shall see how 2010 does in those House races if Americans still want all their taxes to go to the unproductive in this nation. |
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Your girdle is way too tight it is cutting off oxygen to your brain, chill out. |
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Chrysler and Gm are toast,goverment requirements will cripple them and the union bosses will loot all they can becuase they reall don't care about their membership . |
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GM, and Chrysler, owned by obama, union thugs, and government "get evenists", will be building "green" go-carts(they will be called, "Hoaksters"). On the other hand, Ford, owned by capitalists, using free market principals, will be building SUV's, 1/2 ton, 3/4 ton, and 1 ton trucks. Lets see who wins, Gwen.
Buy Ford stock, ya' heard it here first. |
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Let the game begin:
GM, and Chrysler, owned by obama, union thugs, and government "get evenists", will be building "green" go-carts(they will be called, "Hoaksters"). On the other hand, Ford, owned by capitalists, using free market principals, will be building SUV's, 1/2 ton, 3/4 ton, and 1 ton trucks. Lets see who wins, Gwen.
Buy Ford stock, ya' heard it here first.
Me- Fords are best known as "Found on Road Dead" or "Fix or Repair Daily"... Their subsidary, Visteon, declared bankruptcy this week.
You know something, you guys don't seem to have a lot of faith in American know-how. If the government could put a man on the moon, they can build an energy efficient, good consumer car.
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confused with his more manly half brother, Boy George seems to be losing his mind on this thread. It might help, if he had a life outside TH. All day everyday, "boy" shows up, hoping, breathlessly hoping that Conservatives will "see" his brilliance, his mature wisdom, and command of the issues. He desperately wants ta' be a player! But, alas, dull, girlish, and rudderless best describe our, "boy". When you lack even a modicum of curiosity, but instead believe as "gospel" all the leftist psycho-babble, you end up with the mentality of the "boy". Therefore, Conservatives view the "boy" as little more than comic relief. I mean really, girlish insight hardly passes as profound here at TH. |
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if the government can "put a man on the moon", then by gosh, by golly, don't it stand ta' reason that it could "build an energy efficient, good consumer car". It's this kind of critical thinkin' that we have come to expect from the adherents of the left. Yes sirree, comparin' the scientists and engineers of the Apollo program(all government employees, to be sure) with Steven Rattner, does reveal a level of critical thinkin' not often seen. When one is thinkin' of a government car a "good consumer car", as our resident "genius" has stated, naturally the Yugo, comes ta' mind. No doubt a fine, fine vehicle, that whatcha' had in mind there "genius". Yous lefty guys, minds like traps. Impressive, quite impressive. |
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"the scientists and engineers of the Apollo program(all government employees, to be sure)"
In fact a great deal of the engineering work, probably most of it, was done by the main contractors: Boeing, Rockwell, Grumman, and North American (the latter merged with Rockwell after the Apollo I fire). They were CONTRACTED to do the design and engineering; whatever of that was actually done by government employees was basically back-channel, because the separation of the (private) contractors from the (government) managers wasn't so sharp in those days. |
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mind like a trap. Impressive, very much so. Probably not goin' to be the first chosen for a game a scrabble are ya' "boy". On top of it, ain't cha'. HAHAHAHAHAHA.... |
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I suppose Gwen Ifill also thinks it is a great thing for the government to micro-manage news organizations, news outlets, and reporters as well. The statist mindset at work. |
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On their own? I mean, Why interfere with SUCH a good thing, right? The CEOs ran the companies into the ground, so the rightwing thinks that is just super dandy and free market-ish. And to top it all off, the right can then blame the unions for the CEO clusterforks - just like they blame the Dems for all of Bush's clusterfricks. It's called the Rightwing Free Market of Unaccountability, and just in case you weren't listening, they are against ----wait for it------so-called SOCIALISM. EEEeeekkkk! |
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"munck" as was my retort to the "axe", using the analogy of perceived government success in the lunar program as an indication of success in building cars, is wrong on both counts. Thank you for the confirmation. |
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"game", and very fascinating too, so what is a "clusterfrick, and a clusterfork"? I know that you Statists have superior verbiage, as well as a keen sense of governance, but please do enlighten those of us, who hold liberty and freedom in higher regard than we do the state. We anxiously await... |
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Whatever Bush/Cheney/GOP did as the majority is beyond screwing up royally. Use your imagination - if you have one - but as with "teabagging" I'm guessing your blind devotion to ineptitude and failure won't help you understand the concept of Clusterf*(k, either. |
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Govt managing a car company. I wonder if it'll be "not for profit". We need to come up with a name for the new automobile which Government Motors will be forcing taxpayers to subsidize.
Howabout: The Acorn? It works on so many levels.
Grown on trees, runs on the sun, small enough for a squirrel to bury,...
Atlas is shrugging.
heh heh heh |
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...Acorn. Or maybe too sad.
You libs, tell me where nationalizing an industry actually made anything better?
Remember when the commie Allende nationalized Chile's copper mines and sent the US management packing? The workers knew how to work, but not manage, and they starved.
Now Chile is a sweet little capitalist country, shipping surplus fruit to the snow-bound US during their summer/our winter. With the help of a finance minister with a Harvard MBA and a conservative female president, they have privitized both the copper mines and health care.
Maybe we will have to follow Chile's history: Commie take-over led by university profs and their brain-dead students, starving housewives marching up the Alameda, banging their empty pots, a military coup, and at long last proving that capitalism not progressism/socialism/marxism doesn't work.
My fear: Once we go down the road of the leftist -isms, there's no way back. I guess we're about to find out.
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...that capitalism not all the leftest 'isms DOES work. |
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59 years living as an american and I lived to see a president and congress actually steal a auto company from its true owners, and they actually used my tax dollars to do it, and NO ONE IS YELLING FOR THEIR ARREST.The real owners of gm are everyday people who saved and invested in that company to help it grow and prosper, and in 3 short months Obama and the left wing dems of congress have taken all their money and gave it to the unions, how about some law, how about some outrage, if they can do this to gm, no one is safe.This is a crine and you idiot democrates are cheering, as they murder our nation. |
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I love to watch those old Soviet propaganda movies. The theme is always the same: struggling workers take over industry from cigar-chomping capitalists. Immediately, the machinery stops, the work stops, everybody starves.
IT'S GLORIOUS! |
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Michelle Obama is 6' tall and the president is taller than she is. So while the government wants to put hefty and tall Americans into clown cars I don't think they'll fit.
We've already been down this road during the Carter administration. Now that car seats are mandatory parents needed SUV's while teenagers are driving the smaller cars.
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Krugman and Ifill look like they can hardly contain their glee. It's hard to tell with Krugman though, being that he's a mouth breather and all.
My suggestion to the Democrats in Michigan? Raise taxes now while you've still got people employed. Raise them high! And increase govt spending. I suggest huge increases in food programs, job counseling, student aid, and mental health. But don't cut other prograams. Just add the new spending to the bill. Obama will have Detroit making money hand-over-fist in no time. No time at all. heh heh.
And since crime will probably go up, you Democrats in Utopia should probably build more prisons and hire more cops. That is unless you've worked over the citizens of Detroit successfully enough to create a second nature of man. You know, one where avarice doesn't exist and so therefore it'll not be there to prevent, er, I mean, PROMOTE severe privation?
No second nature? Too bad. I guess we could build great walls around Detroit and turn the whole city into a jail. They could earn revenue by filming movies there of Kurt Russell trying to escape. |
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Do you remember who turned Chile around?
Milton Friedman. |
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"Historically, socialism, govt. ownership over free enterprise businesses has never worked."
Scandinavia disagrees.
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"59 years living as an american and I lived to see a president and congress actually steal a auto company from its true owners, and they actually used my tax dollars to do it, and NO ONE IS YELLING FOR THEIR ARREST.The real owners of gm are everyday people who saved and invested in that company to help it grow and prosper, and in 3 short months Obama and the left wing dems of congress have taken all their money and gave it to the unions, how about some law, how about some outrage, if they can do this to gm, no one is safe.This is a crine and you idiot democrates are cheering, as they murder our nation."
Like so many conservatives, you're confused. Also, you can't spell.
The government's not doing anything to GM; GM is begging the government to intercede. Has been for a while now. Once again, if GM filed for bankruptcy with no government intervention whatsoever, the company would be liquidated rather than making some sort of right-wing wetdream recovery. With that liquidation comes an awful lot of job loss. |
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Well there ya' have it,
if the government can "put a man on the moon", then by gosh, by golly, don't it stand ta' reason that it could "build an energy efficient, good consumer car". It's this kind of critical thinkin' that we have come to expect from the adherents of the left. Yes sirree, comparin' the scientists and engineers of the Apollo program(all government employees, to be sure) with Steven Rattner, does reveal a level of critical thinkin' not often seen. When one is thinkin' of a government car a "good consumer car", as our resident "genius" has stated, naturally the Yugo, comes ta' mind. No doubt a fine, fine vehicle, that whatcha' had in mind there "genius". Yous lefty guys, minds like traps. Impressive, quite impressive.
Me- The Yugo wasn't made by Americans. Are you saying that Americans aren't any smarter than the polygot warring tribes of the former Yugoslavia. (Sometimes, reading posts like yours, I wonder.)
The fact is that GM's management ignored consumer sentiment for decades in attempts to increase profits? Government sets new millage standards under the Clean Air Act (signed by Bush-41)? Declare everything a "Sports Utility Vehicle" that continue to be gas hogs. Spend millions telling people they WANT to buy Hummers. And when gas hits $4.00 a gallon, you get bankrupted as everyone rushes out to buy economical Japanese cars.
You guys keep citing Yugo as a bad example of government partnership. But Toyota, Volkswagon, Nissan, Fiat are all examples of how government and private industry CAN work together for common good.
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Please the Government has done such a fine job of managing the Post Office, Fanny Mae and Freddie Mac, why would anyone remotely think that Obama with the help of Tax Cheat Geitner, Frank,Dodd,Reid and Queen Pelosi aren't more than capable of TOTAL DESTRUCTION.All of the Social Engineering that the Obama Clan has done to date has been a FAILURE,but it is CHANGE that we can believe in. |
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can't manage itself much less manage a car company. Fact of the matter is that Americans "want" bigger vehicles and more otions. The cause of much of the problems with the auto industry rests with:
1. Bad management
2. Greedy Unions
3. Government intervention
The goveernment is "full" of bad management...just look at Congress! |
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If the people WANTED bigger cars, Toyota wouldn't be outselling GM in the US.
As far as "Greedy" unions. A UAW worker makes all of $28.00 an hour... That comes out to $60,000 a year... Hardly "greedy", that's barely enough to support a family these days. |
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If the people WANTED bigger cars, Toyota wouldn't be outselling GM in the US.
As far as "Greedy" unions. A UAW worker makes all of $28.00 an hour... That comes out to $60,000 a year... Hardly "greedy", that's barely enough to support a family these days.
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GM makes most of their money and profits from bigger vehicles. Toyota passed GM only on one occassion in my recollection as far as total sales and that was recently.
Yah, that 95% pay for 7 years of layoff is what everybody get's???? Actually with benefits...which is still a cost to the employers, the Union worker makes about twice that. |
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You are correct. These clowns haven't a clue what they are doing. Unfortunately, I do not believe they care. Obama is happy to have government take over any company. This is his goal and the sooner the better. We, the taxpayer, are on the hook to pay for cars we don't want. Pretty soon we the taxpayer will be on the hook for medical care that the government will dole out. If no one sees that our freedoms are being taken away at record pace they are stupid to say the least. |
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...de Soto, American Motors, Nash, Eagle? No? Well, gee, I guess the government should have stepped in and saved them. Imagine the highways filled with Gremlins. |
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