are you FINALLY prepared to repudiate the kind of liberal immigration laws your fellow neocons celebrate?
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He sees the Constitution upside down. His pick tells us more about Obama's real world view of America - and it's not a patriotic sight.
We need a ground swell to block this dangerous man from sitting on the highest court in our land.
Both of these men failed American History and Civics.
The media won't blow the whistle on this candidate so pass around this link to expose Koh's view of Constitutional law. It stinks. |
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I would like the honor to be the first to say I would take up arms against my oppressors. This to me is as serious as an act of war.The Europeans have already sold their souls for appeasement.Why? Because if they don't, in their minds, the Muslums would riot and get really radical. NO NO and NO. We are a nation of our laws. We are a melting pot that are tolerant to all peace loving people. To ask for more than they could get in the country they left because the sect of Islam in power was so intolerant as to make whole families disappear. If this being able to live in peace doesn't "appease" these people, too bad. They are free to put a fatwah against my mustache anyday. I consider that freedom of speech. They start to beat their women I draw the line. They conspire to overthrow this government, it will be treason, hopefully prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. That brings us to the Obama tenets and Eric Holders vigilence. These are yet to be determined, but I don't like the appeasement policies all over the world from the State dept. It sends the wrong message at the wrong time. |
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Is wrong with people who choose to bow down to international law and a religion?
They're fukked up in the head and want whatever power the COW will bestow upon them, so shitt, why not just agree and kowtow.
Actually, the guy is another village idiot waiting with the rest of the libs for the Country to be the weakest nation ever, all in the name of equality and Kumbaya. |
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...in arms, and rightly so. BO and his posse do, as you say, have an upside down vision of America and her Constitution as well as an upside view of America vis a vis the rest of the world.
We knew this from the get-go. Absolutely no surprises for those paying attention during the campaigns.
You are right; the media will do nothing. They are in cahoots, having spent their student days in the leftist, loony-thinking journalism departments throughout so-called academia.
Straight-thinking citizens who love the Founding Principles need to yell like stuck pigs until brain-dead voters come to their senses. |
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Sharia law ? like hell!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Obama's supporters and the media are operating under the delusion that if we apply Shari'a here, the Muslims will respect us better. The opposite is actually true. |
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because they enforce contracts that use Sharia rules, such as nuptial agreements.
But let's think about this for one second. What if, on some hyper-obscure legal sub-issue that only judges and the guy on trial care about, the clearest and best reasoning and most just result was to be found in Sharia, and at the same time it was completely compatible with existing U.S. law such as the Constitution?
Oh if only we could use that idea! But sorry, injustice must be done because we can't do it like they do ohva hmyaw in Pack-ye-stan, it's gawt to bay maid in A-mare-i-cawwwwwwwww.
I am a "classical liberal" (i.e., a pure conservative), and I am proudly from the South. But I demand that my fellow conservatives stop sounding RETARDED this instant. I don't want to become THAT GUY that insults my fellow conservatives to leftists when my friends' backs are turned just because I can't defend their emotional, dumb-headed reactions to crap like this. |
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That would take care of out of wedlock babies.
Abort the baby and the mother.
It will be harder to steal with one hand missing.
They also use Homos as walking bombs.
I'm not sure I'd want to live like that.
The news would be boring.
But we'd have lower taxes.
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God bless the USA, and nowhere else! |
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It figures that Carol would seek SOME way to undermine this pick - after all, he is an outspoken critic of the Bush policies promoting torture. He is an international human rights advocate and there IS was that one prescient moment when he testified against Alberto "I don't recall" Gonzales during his confirmation hearing calling the infamous August 2002 Office of Legal Counsel memo authorizing torture "perhaps the most clearly erroneous legal opinion that I have ever read" and a "stain on our national reputation." ---which, I'm betting, is what has Carol's u-trow tied up in knots.
The pro-torture crowd does NOT want to see an anti-torture advocate as legal advisor in the State Department. With Spain bringing charges against the Torture 6, it pushes our own country to step up and ensure we provide legal oversight for the criminals who are on television speaking about their crimes (Cheney) with the apparent gall of a mafioso who thinks they are somehow "above the law". Those days of reckless lawlessness and dictatorship are over, missy, and Koh is a proving a TERRIFIC choice.
By the way, anyone here see the new data that came out on how torture DID NOT work under Bush? It has been proven not to work, but Bush and Cheney pushed for it anyway. Why? Macho power? They spent millions of taxpayer dollars hunting down phantoms that didn't exist due to torture, and the worst part is that the tortured non-al qaeda 'enemy' combatant was cooperative before they used harsh treatment, AND gave them more information that was useful during that time. Never underestimate the idiocy of the Bush administration. |
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Maybe we haven't been asleep for 100 years, but staying asleep much longer and we won't recognize the America we were born or naturalized into.
Are we like the frog in the boiling water that started with luke warm water and got comfortable and sleepy as the water temperature gradually increased, never jumping out when he had the chance! Are we about to be cooked? Koh is a temperature changer.
Trouble is with Obama, there is no 'gradual' about his radical changes. We have the opposite problem, too much change to assimilate EACH DAY, so we tune out with political numbness/information overload -- disbelief that he could be so cunning.
Who will stand up for America if it is not us Americans? Who will protect and defend our freedoms if we consider them no longer modern and relevant? Are we spineless, comfort-diven creatures who have forgotten that recently terrorists came to our shores as human bombs piloting pirated airliners?
Tomorrow my husband flies to Europe on business with a stop in Paris. I told him to stop in France and straighten out our unAmerican President. |
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"Tomorrow my husband flies to Europe on business with a stop in Paris. I told him to stop in France and straighten out our unAmerican President."
You realize that Paris actually IS IN France, yes? And that London, where the G20 summit is being held, is in an entirely different country from Paris? |
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It is your torturous, twisted arguments to slam our former President who kept us safe on his watch that really cause pain.
With concerted human effort and grit, President Bush faced down our enemies while President Obama seems to slam our allies and is cozy with sleasy nations. North Korea isn't backing down with the moral force of either our President or our Secretary of State.
I say again that Koh is dangerous for this country if he is seated in the Supreme Court. He does not respect the basic Constitutional law of our nation. |
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Plane hop - but I did type too fast. Thanks for the needed correction. Stop in London... |
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I meant London - short plane hop, etc. My brain and fingers were out of sync. |
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So your defending a women getting buried up to her neck and then stoned to death for speaking out, just because your messiah chose a limpwristed enemy appeaser. |
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You do realize that France is one of his stops and that Paris is a 2 Hour train ride away? |
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Stop feeding the bottom feeders. Focus on the issue provide intelligent commentary and useful information and ideas.
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anyone who wants to implement it in America!
Islam's beliefs are incompatible with our Constitution and anyone who places it above the constitution cannot be a trusted citizen of this land.
muslims are a 5th column in this country because islam is a political movement hiding behind a religious facade, it is a cancer that will destroy the world.
These stupid liberals will PC us all to death. |
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Actually I think I might be in favor of Sharia law. That way I could marry nancy pelousy and legally beat the living snot out of her.
Then after I had her stoned to death for displeasing me, I'd do the same to babs streisand, susan sarandon, maxine waters, and rosie o'donut (well maybe not the rotund dyke. That is too disgusting even for me.) |
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Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion .... |
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If Obama picks this moron to fill the next vacancy on the Supreme Court, I pray that Specter, Snowe, Collins join 38 other Republican Senators in a filibuster. Would also be nice to see some moderate Democrats join in opposition. This man clearly has no interest in upholding the constitution of the United States. |
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It was phony the last time it came up, and it's phony now.
If the Methodist church defrocked a minister for performing a gay marriage, and the defrocked minister tried to sue, and the court wouldn't hear it because it's a matter of church rules and laws - would you all start threads here saying, "OK to apply Canon Law in US"?
Because this stuff happens every day. Look at the Episcopalian congregations who are severing their relationship and fighting with the national church over property. Is it a legitimate issue? Sure. Does U.S. law have a stake in it. Not much, and the courts will always defer to the laws of the religious denomination.
And nobody pays much attention. Unless it's Muslims. Then the right wing steps in. |
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Where have you been these last few years? Great Britain is already allowing Sharia Law in the cases of Islamic Divorce. And of course, there are now demands that it expand to include money lending, neighborhood jurisdictions, and criminal law. In the arab nieghborhoods of England unofficialy Sharia reigns supreme. Just ask English women who fail to wear head coverings or dress immodestly what happens to them.
Also take a gander up to Dearborn Michigan, where the daily calls to prayer are piped in through loudspeakers. Not a peep of protest from the ACLU or the Attorney General of Michigan.
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"Great Britain is already allowing Sharia Law in the cases of Islamic Divorce."
I have some startling news for you: the United States is allowing Canon Law to decide issues of divorce for Roman Catholics, and has been for some time now.
"In the arab nieghborhoods of England unofficialy Sharia reigns supreme. Just ask English women who fail to wear head coverings or dress immodestly what happens to them."
See what happens if your teenaged daughter takes her top off on the Jersey shore. Go over to a Mediterranean beach and nobody will blink. Go to Stockholm and on sunny days you'll see women take their tops off in city parks during lunch hour. Try that in Central Park or Farragut Square. Heck, go to the U.S. Virgin Islands and wear a swimsuit, any swimsuit, into a sandwich shop, as everyone does on the Jersey shore, and they will tell you you have to cover up. Does any of that mean Americans are subject to religious repression?
"Also take a gander up to Dearborn Michigan, where the daily calls to prayer are piped in through loudspeakers. Not a peep of protest from the ACLU or the Attorney General of Michigan."
One of our local Methodist churches routinely plays hymns on its carillon, which can be heard for a mile. I don't recall any of my Jewish friends complaining.
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Maybe I should type slower because I know liberals can't read fast. There has never been a "Sharia law" upheld in any appealet court or district court as far as I know. Unles the loon was playing the symantics game again and is talking possibly a law that both common law and Sharia law share, he is dead wrong. Our law is based on the Magna Carta and improved by our founders with a few hundred years of seeing what worked and what did not. The harm once again comes from liberal tunnel vision that can't see the potential future complications this precedent will incur. Will CNN show the stoning of women to death for making too much noise walking down a cobblestone street with wooden sandels? Will MSNBC show he rape and torture of their own people because they were caught filming said stoning? You libs got to get a grip on Sharia Law. There are shelves filled in your local bookstore written by victoms of this barbaric doctrine. Before you defend something you should know the details of what you defend. I highly recommend linking to the Fox news interview with the son of one of the founders of Hamas. He was the leader of the Hamas youth movement until at age 18 he saw atrocities committed against other muslums that is strictly forbiden in the Qu'ran. He then picked up a Bible, compared the two and concluded Christianity is the true religian of peace. He actually called the Qu'ran the biggest piece of hypocracy in religian anywhere. Needless to say he lives under a death Fatwah here in the states and openly holds prayer sessions with other Muslums and Christians to find an answer. It's an hour long documentary, so I don't know how you could get the whole transcript, but it is worth the effort. |
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That is why the first amendment is written as it is. The Government can make no law etc... How can we have any civil society without laws that look somewhat like Biblical decrees. All the Bible says is follow my map and I will guide you through life. For the life of me, I can't figure out why this concept terrifies liberals. The judges do not open the bible to decide cases, they open law books containing precedent cases and use that as a starting point. How many liberal judges are athiest? The problem with Sharia law is it is in the age of Moses in comparison to penalties and decrees. Picture this: for those who have actually read the Bible, living under old testament law. That scares me. I almost gave up on Christianity before I reached the new testament there is so much cruelty. The Qu'ran has no new testament. That is the biggest obstruction to reconcilliation. |
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....do we get to whip raelei?
If so, I think we have to at least consider it..... |
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just wear surgical gloves before you touch it. and dont forget the gas mask either |
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I'm not sure who's better at the pithy comments, you or Neo.
That was a classic.
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to be willing to take up arms to be successful in defending liberty.
Where are the Sons of Liberty when we need them.
By the way, does any one know why Obama is afraid to come clean on his birth certificate and college records?
What is he hiding?
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the non sequitur.
He is also too cowardly to explain why Obama is afraid to come clean with his birth certificate and college records.
Do you suppose the ptb are waiting to see if Obama can pull off his revolution and if he is not they will have him replaced by disclosing what Obama is trying to hide?
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I got your Sharia Law right here (sound of a pump shotgun racking). Count me among that 30%, eddie. |
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The RCC handles a private matter called anulments, which has nothing to do with Divorce, property settlements, child custody. It is a religious process that is totally seperate from the civil arrangement. Whether a Bishop grants a couple an annulment is totally immaterial to how a divorce judge rules in a case.
Secondly, your comparisons of prohibiting nude sunbathers to that of the harassement of English women by Islamic men is pure nonsense. I do not believe that you would be supportive of Baptist men harassing women who wear mini-skirts or go braless in public. Civil law forbides this kind of behavior, both in the US and the UK. The big difference is that British police and barristers do not enforce thier own laws out of fear.
Finally, how can you compare pipe organ music played within the confines of a church with that of loudspeakers set up outside in public spaces, using public utilities that blare Islamic prayers?
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"The RCC handles a private matter called anulments, which has nothing to do with Divorce,"
Anullments have nothing to do with divorce, OK, if you say so. If a thrice-divorced Baptist wanted to get married again in a Catholic church and they wouldn't allow it, how far do you think the Baptist would get with a lawsuit claiming he was being discriminated against? Not very far, because the courts would say that the Church's rules trump the state's rules in situations like this.
"Secondly, your comparisons of prohibiting nude sunbathers to that of the harassement of English women by Islamic men is pure nonsense. I do not believe that you would be supportive of Baptist men harassing women who wear mini-skirts or go braless in public. Civil law forbides this kind of behavior, both in the US and the UK. The big difference is that British police and barristers do not enforce thier own laws out of fear."
I wasn't speaking of harrassment. If my wife took her top off in Farragut Square at lunch hour, she would be speaking to the police, and arguments that it's acceptable in Sweden probably wouldn't work. Now, wearing a scarf around your head doesn't violate any civil laws. If they're harrassing women without scarves, they're wrong, but that hardly proves that "Sharia is the law of the land."
"Finally, how can you compare pipe organ music played within the confines of a church with that of loudspeakers set up outside in public spaces, using public utilities that blare Islamic prayers?"
I referred to a "carillon," which is large bells up in a tower, which can be heard for great distances.
"Is this the best you've got?"
You think I bring my best to Town Hall? |
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'eddie too' really must be a leftist troll. Who else could write something this droll in a post about Sharia law:
"vlad is the master of
the non sequitur.
He is also too cowardly to explain why Obama is afraid to come clean with his birth certificate and college records."
You just can't make this stuff up! |
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Vlad, you are comparing what the church does to its own pastors,priests et all, and a public action that would effect the entire community. And I'm not talking about music, I am talking about the screaming from the torture and rape rooms and the public stonings of women taht are both legal under Sharia law. Not in this country, not on my watch. You don't think they would hide any of the Hezbollah terrorists coming across our Southern border as we speak. It's a damn good thing it only takes 30% because 70% will be on the Dems welfare payroll in a couple years. Good news is libs have always been spineless cowards that would pick up a gun and fight for their "convictions". That's why 95% of our volunteer military votes conservative. It's not a coincidence. |
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That was an utterly incoherent post. JPK and I were going back and forth with an actual disagreement on points of fact and logic, and you clearly didn't understand any part of it. Border protection and guns, heck, none of it makes any sense but it's a lot of right-wing noise that gets folks like you wound up, and I guess that's all that matters. |
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Maybe a little on the border stuff, but the annulments by the Catolic Church is an internal matter and has nothing to do with Sharia law. So who's off point? go to a chat site or pick up a phone if you want to banter. Layers, guns and money vlad, the sh*t has hit the fan. An annulment is just that, it annuls,voids,wipes off the slate,sweeps it under the rug. You start fresh as a York peppermint patty. If you wait more than six months though you better have big bucks to buy those devine cardinals off with. |
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