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Lose my vote. I won't vote for somebody who EVER thought any level of government was obligated to pay to suck the brains out of partially born children. The guy's a creep. |
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MR that it is long past time to start taking Huck and JM to the woodshed on their neo-liberal positions. In view of these positions I think that they would not be in violation of RR's 11th commandment as they are not Republicans.
Fred showed the way to getting positive press and lots of it in Thursday's debate. Read Rush's commentary here:
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_011108/content/ 01125111.guest.html
The vast middle ground - the bedrock, the conservative heart of the GOP is in a state of shock and confusion seeing no clearly viable candidate to support.
RG needs to not just ask for their support - that generates no headlines, no discussion. He has to launch broadsides, pointed, truthful attacks on both of the posuers (sp.) noted above. If he's looking for material all he needs to do is podcast HH's show for the past three weeks (particularly the lack of money both their campaigns have and that they will both opt for matching funds and sure defeat in Nov if they win the Nomination).
It will generate millions of $$ in free press - critical for Super Tuesday - and millions of $$ in contributions from the conservative wing as they see the rising of a champion of their cause. |
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in the debate Rudy said his imigration position was basically the same as McCain's. Only Thompson and Romney were strict on the illegals currently in the country. So don't bring up the pro amnesty canard. |
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IMWITHMCCAIN writes: Saturday, January, 12, 2008 11:45 AM
Patrick
You are an a$$
This is a perfect example of the intellect and temperament of McCain and his supporters. |
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so I guess you won't vote at all in NOv if RG's the nominee - that you would prefer BO or HC's as prez and thus their liberal SC judges enshrining R v wade |
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That Rudy is the same pro abortion Rudy he has always been. No way he is going to get the GOP nod.
Oops, almost forget, its a two person race between Mitt and Rudy, as Hugh reminds us. |
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pro choice, but I'm glad you are going to vote McCain or Ron Paul to keep a Democrat out. I'm not going against my principles and participating in the destruction of the pro life cause. Rudy is easily as bad on the life issue as many Democrats. When the congress passed a partial birth abortion ban in the 1990s many Democrats voted for the ban, inclduing Lieberman. Rudy said he agreed with Clinton. Not surprising for a Gene McCarthy and Mario Cuomo supporter, not to mention the Liberal Party's choice for mayor. He will not say Roe v Wade is bad law, and he said, in this election cycle, that a judge he would appoint might overturn Roe and might not.
Newsflash - I don't trust him on the judges. He is pro choice all the way. |
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as someone who is seriously pro life - one of the two main reasons I am a Republican (along with defense) every candidate is better on abortion than Rudy, and most are as good or better on defense. Including McCain. I don't swallow the GOP pablum that Hewitt dishes - he sold us a bill of goods with the disaster in California known as the Taxinator. So you vote for hte pro choice candidat, not me. |
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"Does anyone know where they've hidden this Rudy?"
Sure. He's realized that there's no way a pro-abortion socially liberal candidate gets the GOP nomination.
He's on a goodbye tour now.
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Are you going to return John Kerry's gesture and offer him the VP slot like the one you considered in 2004? Just asking. I'm sure that won't damage your "conservative" creds with the nutty McCainiacs. |
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I like Rudy, but he is MIA.
And Pasadena Phil, nice try. But McCain has even ruled out Lieberman as VP (because he is too liberal on domestic issues). The perfect VP would be Fred, if he would ever agree.
But who knows, maybe Mitt will offer himself up as McCain's VP. Who knows, stranger things have happened. |
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and Thompson loses SC, I think Rudy will surge by the time Florida comes around. |
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It does seem that now nationally, McCain, who has dissed the conservs and Evangelicals many times has either been forgiven or the weary factor has come into play. This is a fight for the center to right nomination, hopefully being able to get some Blue States from the bad guys and so far McCain and Huck has outmaneuvered Mitt, Rudy, Fred, Hunter and of course Paul. In Nov. one wonders just what combo our guys can agree upon to actually win the WH and perhaps help some down ticket races. Rudy just blew it all, though on Feb. 5 he will get some support in Ca. as well as other N. states. Still, where will Fred be able to win except down South and Mitt??? Huck will still be in it down South. One is reminded how JFK and LBJ both political enemies merged to win. The Pubs may have to do the very same thing to have a chance. And if the Pub Purists, one issue people stay home, the GOP loses. Then we get 8-16 years of socialist pacifism and we will have to enjoy how it feels to be a nation like,oh say, Mexico! |
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hereabouts detest Rudy, it gives me vast pleasure knowing that Mrs.Neo and I will be voting on Monday--early balloting is permitted--here in Central Florida. If Mitt were in serious contention for 1st here, I'd have a tussle. If necessary, we are prepared to dimple as many chads as in Nov.2000 for our guy. Not to mention terrorize minorities from the polls, just as we did then.
Cool. Go Mitt in Michegan. Go, Rudy in Florida. Send the highchair pounding McCain back to be a disruptor in the House of Lords. Huckleberry back to Hope and Pauley back to the quiet, shady, lithium-rich place from which he escaped. |
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I hope you are not calling me a troll who hates Rudy, because I do not. I like Rudy. Always have. I am also not a troll, but then again, you are not scum so what does a label make anyway?
I never really understood Peak Oil's dislike of Rudy. Pasadena Phil's I get (its immigration). |
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In an election year of comebacks it is someone elses turn now. McCain's comeback isn't what America needs. I am hoping the final comeback will be Mitt Romney's. Rudy can obviously give a good speech, he has some good ideas and possitions, but he just doesn't cover all the bases for me.
Aside from Mitt Romney the only other person runing that I am reasonably comfortable with is Fred Thompson, and that is if he has the endurance for the job. |
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Fret not, my friend. Oily Boy & the brianakira person are the brain surgeons I had in mind. |
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Briggsy! I thought I was the only one who had noticed those bugged out eyes! The newspaper cartoonists would have a field day with Rudy as President... |
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If Rudy IS sandbagging, he better pick up the pace a little, because he's running out of money.
If he didn't plan to get votes in Iowa and New Hampshire-- if he was going to concede them to Huck and McCain-- why would he spend the money on commercials?
BTW did anyone else notice that the only political ads that ran during the SC Fox debate were Rudy's? |
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Judging by this thread, sounds like Rudy's toast. Fred has no support nationally, plus he's not presidential material. Mitt might be gone after Michigan, two-time loser. Huckabee is the evangelical candidate, soon to face the reality of a secular voting public nationwide. That leaves Grandpa McCain. Whooo, said the wise owl? |
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I'm beginning to think Rudy is a "deer in the headlights" with attacks coming from the right. He was and is quite used to broadsides coming from the left as they constantly did in NYC, where he gave back better than he got, but this may be the first time he's had to face attacks from the right, and doesn't know how to respond to them . . . . |
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Coming from the left hard and strong. Nationally he his the strongest threat to her highness, the one and only the presidency should and must be handed over. Hollywood, already is at works making movies, when Rudy was mayor of New York, and you laugh, they paint a dismal one. So, maybe, he is purpusely, now cooling it down. People should remember he did an awesome job in New York.
Rudy has promised strict constructionist judges for the courts and I know he is truthful. My only conserns are the courts and terrorism.
Therefore, Thompson/Romney/Rudy, all are good for GOP. Only Rudy can deliever New York, Florida, California, New Jersey for Republicans. |
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It's "Katie bar the door!" Mitt's money will be targeting Rudy and Florida. And there will be swamp mud flyin.
If McCain wins Michigan, then the south is his to lose. Unless he loses his temper first and republican voters remember why he splits the party faithful.
Should Huckabee pull out a Michigan victory or even a close second, He'll take South Carolina by a large enough margin to pause Florida voters into believing in big momentum. Tough to stop big mo.
Either way she goes, Rudy's going to have to stop
a train at full speed like spiderman.
And then there's SUPER TUESDAY. And I thought the next two and a half weeks would be interesting.
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of Rudy here are funny - pretending to actually care about the unborn. Rudy has NEVER said he will appoint juges that will overturn Roe. He like Roe. His only concern about a partial birth abortion ban is that it has a loophole so the baby can still be killed. And he said in this election cycle that abortion was a guaranteed liberty and some level of government needed to support it, although possibly not the federal government. I will give him a chance to convince me over the next year, but as of now if he is the nominee he is no better than a Democrat and I will stay home. And anybody that thinks Rudy will win New York or California in the general election should be supporting Ron Paul because they must be smoking something. |
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Rudy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfsHe8zg9o4&feature=related
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What is this? I thought Rudy was with the 2nd amendment folks
Rudy Giuliani announces lawsuit against gun companies
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zs5DxwzEXHQ&feature=related
Giuliani on the NRA: "Extremists"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UV1HuPofNws&feature=related
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