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Monday, March 12, 2007
FAQ - The Power of the Blogosphere
Posted by: Dean Barnett at 5:00 PM

1) You’ve gone all schizo on us. On Saturday, you wrote that the power of the blogs is overrated. And yet here you sit on one of the leading blog sites issuing your dictates from on high. Are you telling us that you’re powerless?

Pretty much. The only power I and other bloggers have is that our ideas get read. If they’re good ideas and powerful stories, they can spread in a viral fashion. But unfortunately, I can’t snap my fingers and make John McCain or Chuck Hagel go away. Pity that.

2) But you guys, you bloggers, can whip up a storm over anything. Surely there’s power in that, right?

We can’t whip up a storm over everything. We can only whip up a storm over something that the mainstream media should have noticed but somehow overlooked. For instance, the response of the Huffington Post people to the attempt on Dick Cheney’s life was a newsworthy snapshot of the current left. That’s why once the blogs began talking about it, it quickly migrated to CNN. Same deal with the story about the Edwards bloggresses. It was a fascinating thing, something that a general audience would find interesting. That’s why the story crossed over from the virtual world into the real one.

3) But you can do that about any story. You can wield your power (or what you consider your power) irresponsibly. That’s why you love this.

It’s simply not true that we can push any story into the mainstream media. There are some stories that consume the blogosphere and never make a dent on the wider public.

4) Such as?

Take the Glenn Greenwald sock-puppet scandal. For days, this story provided endless amusement for the right half of the blogosphere. And yet obviously the story never made it onto CNN since no one in the real world has ever heard of Glenn Greenwald (except for Russ Feingold). The blogosphere is a pretty small place.

5) How can you say that? It’s huge!!!

No it isn’t. It’s probably a safe surmise that there are no more than 300,000 conservative blog readers. The number may be twice that in the progressive blogosphere. That’s still less than a million total. In a country of 300 million, those numbers are in an absolute sense just not that big.

6) So why do politicians and other prominent people care what bloggers think?

You know, I’m not really sure. I’d like to think they read this blog simply because they find a treasure trove of enjoyable and informative reading here. Unfortunately, that ain’t it. For the politicians, the right wing blogs serve as an early warning system. We tell them where the grassroots’ pulse is at any given moment. So, for instance, the Republican Party saw that supporting a non-binding resolution opposing the surge in Iraq would have been a maladroit play bordering on political suicide. Self-preservation kicked in, and the rest is history.

7) How about the politicians on the left? Why are they so into the blogosphere?

It’s a little strange. The left wing blogosphere is definitely more powerful than the right wing blogosphere. Unlike us, the lefties can raise money and summon volunteers. Additionally, they issue “ACTION ALERTS” – I love it when they do that.

When the entire left wing blogosphere focuses on a particular congressional race, it can make a big difference. It can also be a big help in getting a candidacy off the ground. Were it not for the blogosphere’s help, the bouncing baby Webb campaign that grew up to beat George Allen probably would have been stillborn.

But on the presidential level, these guys just don’t have that much juice. Hillary, Obama, and Edwards will probably raise a combined $200+ among them. At least. The blogosphere can’t make a dent at such levels unless it united behind one candidate and supported him monolithically. (I use the male pronoun advisedly – the Netroots will not be supporting Hillary.)

And yet the presidential aspirants pant after the blogosphere’s affections like a pack of love-starved golden retrievers. For goodness sake, John Edwards hired two of the blogosphere’s most extreme denizens to make a good impression on the netroots. Even when the move blew up in his handsome face, he still refused to fire the pair lest he offend the suddenly enflamed netroots.

8) So how should the presidential candidates use the blogosphere?

As a medium to get their message out. We can be especially useful when the candidate has something that should make the mainstream media but hasn’t. In those cases, we can get it on the MSM’s radar screen. That formula holds for both sides of the blogosphere.

9) Here’s what I don’t understand: You’ve often written that blogs will kill the newspapers. That sounds pretty triumphalist to me. And here you are describing how powerless the blogs are. Flip-flop!!!!

I never said the blogs will kill the newspapers. The internet will kill the newspapers. There’s a new way of gathering news other than waiting for a neighborhood youth to plop it on your doorstep in the wee hours of the morning. For those of you who read this site, I bet virtually every story in your morning paper has grown stale by the time you’ve got your newspaper in your hands. In the not too distant past, newspapers were the most efficient way of getting news that had more depth than you got on TV. That’s no longer the case. And that paradigm shift means the newspapers will have to adjust their product. So far, the industry as a whole has given little indication that it knows how to do so.

10) Do you personally feel powerful?

I feel honored that so many people read my stuff. I feel lucky that I can bring stories to the attention of such a large audience. I feel amazed that important people sometimes return my phone calls.

But powerful? No. Bloggers only can appear powerful. They can’t actually be powerful.

11) What’s that mean?

A guy like Kos or a gal like Arianna, they sit atop a movement but they don’t run it. Politicians run to kiss their rings because there are no other rings available and kissing rings (and babies and tushes) are what politicians do.

But Markos didn’t create the anti-Lieberman sentiment. He tapped into it. Although the distinction may be too subtle for a Democratic politician to grasp, there’s a world of difference.

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Joe writes: Tuesday, March, 13, 2007 2:05 AM
Iranians Officials hate 300
http://english.people.com.cn/200703/12/eng20070312_356565.html

Is it because:
a. the Persians lose;
b. Xerxes is flaming gay;
c. stylewise, Iranians prefer Oliver Stone's Alexander; or,
d. most Iranians are more obsessed with getting a visa to the United States.
Joe writes: Tuesday, March, 13, 2007 1:57 AM
Regular Joes?
As a "Joe," I love Giuliani and McCain and would be thrilled if Fred Thompson jumped in. I am less thrilled about Mitt Romney only because I doubt with his current low poll numbers he can beat the Democratic candidate. Plus I like Giulian, McCain, and Thompson more. Still, if Mitt Romney was the candidate I would support him. I just think it would be a serious mistake.

I like Newt, but I really doubt he can win. Same problem as Romney.

Cynewulf writes: Tuesday, March, 13, 2007 12:33 AM
PPhil,
yeah, noted. There's not much about anybody except "the big three." Why? With the 08 election so far in the distance, this would be a good time to cover the "little guys."
Cynewulf writes: Tuesday, March, 13, 2007 12:30 AM
Say what you want, Moderate H,
but there were a lot of posters here on TH saying they were not going to be voting on the 11/7 election despite the exhortations of TH columnists to vote for the lesser of two evils. Right up to the election, mosts of the TH columnists thought we had a great chance of retaining one house and a decent chance at retaining both. Oddly, the Republicans didn't get the turnout they expected. Who do you think called that one right. The rumblings and mumblings are here again. An inordinate amount of people are saying that if it's Rudy or McCain, they're not voting. And I don't know if "TH columnists have a better pulse on the mainstream Republican voter comfort level." They seem desparate, pleading, rather than confident. Not just my opinion. Just letting you know what the buzz is.
Brian J writes: Tuesday, March, 13, 2007 12:17 AM
Pasadena
That "excitement" would need to be translated into some tangible form to be taken seriously. Whether money or endorsements or crowds at speaking engagements, there's got to be something other than random chatter for Thompson to be taken seriously. There isn't, so he isn't. That could change, but it hasn't yet.
Pasadena Phil writes: Monday, March, 12, 2007 11:54 PM
Cynewulf: Not only that...
but have you noticed how silent the TH columnists have been on Fred Thompson despite the excitement his FOX interview sparked among us regular joes?
BG writes: Monday, March, 12, 2007 11:41 PM
The right, blogs, talk radio and papers
The left blogs are more powerful because that is the only media the left has except for the MSM which has no depth.

The right has talk radio (the left does not) so the right blogs play a different role than the left blogs.

The rising generation reads the internet for what little news they get. They are wired. They do not read newpapers. I am not of that generation but have not read a paper for years. I even use the net to search for newspaper want ads. TV and papers are a waste of time and money.

If it is important it is on the net and on the net first and in detail and from many different angles. I can pick and choose what I want to study in depth.

The right needs to develop the ability to raise money on the net and it will rival the left blogs in power. We also need conservative blogs that appeal to the younger generation.
Honesty is the best policy writes: Monday, March, 12, 2007 11:22 PM
Disagree with Cynewulf
I think it is the opposite -- the TH columnists have a better pulse on the mainstream Republican voter comfort level. Just as the Daily Kos should not be used to paint the entire Democratic party with one color, the sentiments of the posters of the right can't be extrapolated to mean that is the view of every Republican.
I'm not diparaging the posters in either political camp but let's face it -- who but the most diehard (read party base) people will be this adamant two years out from the election?
The posters need to follow this advice sometimes "Step away from the keyboard, go outside, read a book, talk to a person....but for God's sake leave the internet for a few hours!"

The following is half in fun and adapted from the Gambling Anon checklist to determine if you have a problem

• Preoccupation – Preoccupied with blogging (e.g., preoccupied with checking past postings to see who answered your thoughts, planning the next venture, or thinking of ways to get your blogs noticed)
• Tolerance – Needs to blog with increasing amounts of time in order to achieve the desired excitement
• Withdrawal – Is restless or irritable when attempting to cut down or stop blogging
• Escape – Blogs as a way of escaping from problems or relieving dysphoric mood (e.g., feelings of helplessness, guilt, anxiety or depression)
• Chasing – After losing an argument through blogging, often returns another day in order to get even ("chasing one's losses"). Chasing is a classical behavior pattern characterizing pathological blogging.
• Lying – Lies to family members, therapists or others to conceal the extent of involvement with blogging
• Risked significant relationship – Has jeopardized or lost a significant relationship, job or educational or career opportunity because of blogging
• Work – Devises ways to get past work firewall filters in order to maintain presence at favorite sites
• Loss of control – Has made repeated unsuccessful efforts to control, cut back or stop blogging
Cynewulf writes: Monday, March, 12, 2007 11:01 PM
"For the politicians, the right wing
blogs serve as an early warning system. We tell them where the grassroots’ pulse is at any given moment."

It's funny, but most of the regular Joe posters here on TH are downright antagonistic (and rightly so) towards Rudy, McCain, et al; yet most of the TH columnists seem to be trying to sell Rudy. Looks like there's a disconnect in the early warning system.
Joe writes: Monday, March, 12, 2007 10:47 PM
Lefty Blogs--the lesson of the lunatics
Lefty blogs are pushing the Dem candidates farther and farther from the mainstream. Dumb, Dumb, Dumb. Dems should be running for the center, because if they did they would have a far greater chance of winning this election.

Still it is a dangerous time for conservatives right now. Republicans need to be pragmatic. No radical right candidates and demagogues. Giuliani, McCain, and Mitt are fine and reasonably electable (I think Mitt has to improve his numbers or he is not worth backing for the top slot). Fred Thomspon is solidly conservative and would be a super candidate. I hope he runs.

Newt is a great guy, but he has too much baggage.
Honesty is the best policy writes: Monday, March, 12, 2007 10:34 PM
Nice Analysis
This was a very interesting layout of facts. I didn't realize the numbers were that low. Being a popular bloghost is kind of a catch 22 I would imagine. Great for making money off advertising hits but a real nightmare in tracking who is posting what on your site. Most blog hosts use censorship to varying degrees. This is where I have my biggest concern with the current state of blogging. Written work makes authors a little more accountable and responsible for their product - hit delete and it is as if it never happened.
Having the internet take the place of newspapers would be better and the archives would generally not be purged to avoid controversy.

Having just entered the wild world of blogs and postings I sense it is a little like the chat room phenomena in the mid-nineties when the internet started becoming widely used in homes. Very addictive and some people lived more while on line than when off line. Chatting is still popular but the fires have cooled considerably and it has become more a communication tool. I think the whole blog phenomena will evolve in a similar fashion.
And as human nature takes its course the "young turks" paving the way of blogs and forums will marry, have children, get older (and tire more easily) and the amount of time they can spend blogging or hosting will decrease.

But it sure is fun!
laborlawyer writes: Monday, March, 12, 2007 9:37 PM
Nicely put, Dean
Too bad some here can't resist the temptation to put down the left blogs as being more "emotional" than the conservative ones; that's pure nonsense. But your post didn't stoop to such nonsense and I agree with just about everything you wrote (well, except for the Huffpost red herring of course:))

And just what did this Greenwald character say to rile you righties up? I must have missed something. He's a pretty obscure fellow even on the left, don't ch'all know?
Scott writes: Monday, March, 12, 2007 9:21 PM
Not saying we ought to use it, James
Just pointing out that the left has built a power base by using the blogs to create an emotional wellspring, and the right has not. Therefore the left sees more energy from its blogging efforts.

The French Revolution is has bad implications, however. The lesson of the French Revolution is that whoever creates the largest emotional response wins the day. Sound judgment and ethical decision tend to wither when faced by the mob.

And therefore the left has an advantage at the current time.
Pasadena Phil writes: Monday, March, 12, 2007 8:11 PM
That small eh? Only 300,000?
I won't feel so bad now when I get my site meter numbers. It's not me so much as there just isn't anyone out there. In radio, it's called "pink noise".
James writes: Monday, March, 12, 2007 7:42 PM
Fear and hate
Yes, you can raise a lot of energy for a cause by stoking fear and hate. But do you really want people afraid and angry?
Bridges, whether figurative or literal, are not built by frightened, angry people. Nor are roads, buildings, factories, houses, farms, mines or anything else worthwhile. People do not make sound judgements and ethical decisions, wise investments or provident provisions for the future based on hate and fear.
I want the people around me to be tolerant, tough, self-reliant and restrained in the face of provocation. There are too many mobs in the world already. Also, the lessons of the French Revolution are still appropriate: if you're going to ride the tiger, you'd better have a solid exit strategy. The best is never to climb aboard in the first place.
Scott writes: Monday, March, 12, 2007 7:19 PM
The major difference
between the left and right blogospheres is how each side perceives their role.

The left is dedicated to using blogs to inspire the masses. It works extremely well. The masses are truly inspired, each individual who participates trying to raise the emotional level of the cause. If the cause is to hate Bush, they wish him death and dismemberment and an eternity in hell. If the cause is to worship an up-and-coming, a Lamont or a Webb, they worship. They get stalkers to create problems that end up in macacca. Let MoveOn call for a protest, and the odds are good that St. Cindy will be there and the faithful will cheer her on.

The right has much less cheerleading. Spades are to be called spades, even if the cause is just and hearts are pure. In spite of what the trolls say, conservative blogs just don't get out the brownshirts for the cause.

If the right wants the same power, they have to appeal to the same instincts. Fear and hate are powerful motivators. The right simply uses it a lot less.
Joe writes: Monday, March, 12, 2007 7:08 PM
Rathergate
One of the blogosphere's finest moments.

But the only reason the blogosphere was able to do what it did on Rathergate was due to Dan Rather's and Mary Mapes's arrogance. Rather and Mapes assumed that no one would call them on it. The evidence was amatuerish. It only took a handful of bloggers (some who as lawyers have seen such shennangins before) a few hours to completely shread Rather's credibility. I never thought Rather manufactured the false evidence personally, he just hated the Bush family so much that he wanted it to be true (so he lost all ability to look at it objectively).

But there remains that missing baby kitten killer presidential candidate video out there. . . only Dean knows the truth on that.
Raja writes: Monday, March, 12, 2007 6:52 PM
sorry but
this is just a reflection on your personal impact, or lack thereof, on the "blogosphere." blogs are enormously powerful. they set the agenda for those who set the agenda. almost every news story develops for hours (or days, months) on blogs before any MSM picks it up these days. on the left-wing, blogs run the entire party
Brian J writes: Monday, March, 12, 2007 6:34 PM
What makes blogs powerful
Are the same two things that make any entity powerful in politics- money and votes. If a blog helps my campaign make money, and if it gains me exposure so I can win more votes, candidates will interact with blogs. If not, they're not worth the effort.

Liberal blogs have demonstrated the ability to do both, in numbers that can win House and Senate races and create a contender (but not yet a winner) at the Presidential level. Hence, attention is being paid (to coin a phrase).

Conservative blogs haven't. They were set up primarily to intimidate the media, but that's not working so well anymore. They've demonstrated that the money and votes they can attract are negligible. They misread the new medium and haven't retooled.
TheodenKing writes: Monday, March, 12, 2007 6:19 PM
Rathergate
I found PowerLine's role in exposing Rathergate to be somewhat powerful.
Dean writes: Monday, March, 12, 2007 6:01 PM
Joe
I happen to have just such a video of a candidate drowning baby-kittens, but I shall bide my time...
Joe writes: Monday, March, 12, 2007 5:57 PM
Creating controversy
A blog can trigger controversy about the same as a newspaper or television show can. If a blog goes through the effort of verifying and establishing a story, I guarantee there are lots of newspaper and television reporters more than willing to borrow and rely on that work product. Whether a story ultimately stirs controversy is a function of how many people see the message, trust the message, and whether the story is compelling or not. Beyond presenting flat out untruths, media does not create controversy as much as triggering it, like triggering an avalanche.

For example: If someone had a YouTube clip showing a presidential candidate drowning baby kittens--I guarantee you that would spark some controversy. It would not take much to spark that firestorm.
James writes: Monday, March, 12, 2007 5:51 PM
Let's spread the word on Ron Paul!
Here's a way to use the power of the blogosphere: Representative Ron Paul of Texas, from the Libertarian edge of the Republican Party, has apparently just announced that he will run for president. As he is one of the tiny few Congresscritters that has made consistent good sense for the last decade or more, I think we should issue an "Action Alert" to raise his profile and put someone with basic intelligence and decency on the Republican ticket. It takes money and publicity, here's my click for publicity; as soon as I can find out where, my check WILL be in the mail.
Thanks!
james
Doug writes: Monday, March, 12, 2007 5:41 PM
Oops!
Correction: "Does of common sense" above should have been "dose of common sense!" My bad!!!!!
Doug writes: Monday, March, 12, 2007 5:36 PM
Oh well, it's a slow news day!
But then, perhaps that's better then having lot's of news like the Dems wanting to rake the President over his mean spirited treatment of poor Valerie and her abused husband/protector!

Keep it up DB, and perhaps one day you'll have another interesting column! And, perhaps Briggsy will have a does of common sense too???

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