Friday, May 16, 2008
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WHAT Was He Thinking?
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Posted by:
Carol Platt Liebau at
5:05 PM
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Speaking on behalf of John McCain, Mike Huckabee actually made a joking off-hand comment about someone aiming a gun at Barack Obama.
Yes, it was a joke. Yes, it seemed unscripted. But one never, ever, ever jokes about the possibility of a rival (or anyone, for that matter) being assassinated. Especially when many genuinely fear for that candidate's safety because of his race.
Such a remark isn't just wrong and graceless. It's downright dumb. Huckabee owes Barack, his supporters -- and, for that matter -- John McCain an apology.
Geez. With friends like Huckabee, neither Republicans nor gun owners need adversaries.
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Mac don't need Cheese. Huck is not even the real thing. He's like Cheese Whizz. |
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"Eddie too
You Huckles apologists can spin this one all you want. The only place you'll go is in circles. Huck screwed up - big time. His 'off the cuff' remark turns out to be staged. And it bommed, big time. Proving once again, Huck is not ready for prime time."
Wow, if this is the best you Mitt Koolaid drinkers have to go on, you guys are sad.
Huck apologized. Obama didn't even make a big deal about it. Don't see it as much of a story as you want to...
Not sure if McCain needs Huck. If he does, it is because he is so weak in the south that he's afraid Barr might tip some states to Obama. More likely, he'll take someone like Sanford.
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[Qweenmumof7 on May 18, 2008 10:35 PM in
http://townhall.com/blog/default.aspx?mode=post&g=37e039d2- 2e5b-4637-b152-2258a46c3975&comments=true&submitted=trueb2b f8d8d-5b7a-4e25-a27e-d21781dc555d
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"I think Synth might be Huckies kid, holed up in the basement of their mortgaged to the hilt home, poking on a used compaq computer. No life. No goals. Just his bible, his daddy to toss him doritos and dip, and washed down with pepsi-cola."
Smith, Joseph F. 17 February 1867.
http://journalofdiscourses.org/Vol_11/refJDvol11-45.html
I sometimes hear the Latter-day Saints instructed about the way they should treat strangers; they are told to extend to all men due respect and kindness. You would not be a Latter-day Saint if you did not; you would not manifest the Spirit of the Gospel did you not show them due kindness, and respect; but remember, at the same time, that you do not compromise yourselves. In trying to be kind and courteous to others, we sometimes place ourselves in their power, and as sure as we do, bad men will take advantage of it. How was the counsel given by the Savior to the Apostles, "Be ye, therefore, as wise as serpents and us harmless as doves."
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You Huckles apologists can spin this one all you want. The only place you'll go is in circles. Huck screwed up - big time. His 'off the cuff' remark turns out to be staged. And it bommed, big time. Proving once again, Huck is not ready for prime time.
And now, he says he WANTS to be mccains veep? Last week, he said he did not want it. Then, he said he was still in the race, now he says he's a mccanaic now? Talk about a flipflopper! and what's worse, Huck was seen in Washington DC, searching for more superglue for to plant his lips back on mccains backside. |
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assassinating Obama? The clips I saw referred to Obama being frightened because he say a gun. |
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Maybe when Huckles gets the message he's not wanted in our party, he'll take his overwieght son, Synth, with him?
Oh, we can only dream. |
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[Qweenmumof7 on May 18, 2008 10:35 PM]"I think Synth might be Huckies kid, holed up in the basement of their mortgaged to the hilt home, poking on a used compaq computer. No life. No goals. Just his bible, his daddy to toss him doritos and dip, and washed down with pepsi-cola."
Qweenmumof7, do you disagree with any of this?:
Smith, Joseph. 6 April 1844. "King Follett Discourse"
http://www.journalofdiscourses.org/Vol_06/refJDvol6-1.html
A question may be asked-"Will mothers have their children in eternity?" Yes! yes! Mothers, you shall have your children; for they shall have eternal life; for their debt is paid. There is no damnation awaits them, for they are in the spirit. But as the child dies, so shall it rise from the dead, and be for ever living in the learning of God. It will never grow: it will still be the child, in the same precise form as it appeared before it died out of its mother's arms, but possessing all the intelligence of a God. Children dwell in the mansions of glory and exercise power, but appear in the same form as when on earth. Eternity is full of thrones, upon which dwell thousands of children reigning on thrones of glory, with not one cubit added to their stature. |
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I said this exact same thing about Synth. I think he's some kind of a stalker. In fact, I'm going to refer tio him now as Stalkathizer. |
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Ignore him. His posts are unbelievably creepy. No one pays any attention to him or answers his questions. If he were persuasive he might be dangerous but he's just creepy, kind of like Hannibal Lechter. |
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Lets all scroll though and flag Synth as offensive. He/she/it cannot stay on topic, is rabid anti-mormon and really needs to be pushed over the edge to get himself/herself/itself a live beyond TH.
I'm with Lori, and don't read the body, but do chuckle with the 'headlines'. I think Synth might be Huckies kid, holed up in the basement of their mortgaged to the hilt home, poking on a used compaq computer. No life. No goals. Just his bible, his daddy to toss him doritos and dip, and washed down with pepsi-cola. while this is a fun fantasy, I really do fee we need to start doing some serious complaining about Synth. Now it's just offensive. |
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What was he thinking? He wasn't obviously! What a jackass! And the Republican Party wonders why Conservatives were disgusted with the candidates they put forward! Huckabee's an embarrassment & I hope his career is over. He should switch parties. He'd fit in well with the Daily Kos, Moveon.org crowd. What a creep! The idiots on the Left will be reminding Conservatives of this gaffe forever! Thanks Schmuckabee! |
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my first reaction, posted elsewhere last night:
Ever heard of Plato, Socrates, Mike Huckabee?
Morons. (Fezzini, Princess Bride (slightly updated))
Ah, it would be so sweet if McCain picked this dipstick as Veep. McCain would probably have the Secret Service tackle him and beat the s**t out of him every time he got near a microphone.
Just think, I’m John McCain and I want to pass some really unpopular legislation. I send Huckabee out to talk to people; he says something really stupid and offensive; huge firestorm erupts. In the meantime, I sneak my horrible legislation through. Huckabee would be a perfect pick for McCain. I mean, if you imagine as I do, McCain’s Presidency as a giant turd sandwich; Huckabee would be the sprig of parsley. Kinda like a bowl of pre-sucked on mints in a mens room that smells like a dead raccoon got tacked to the wall in one of ths stalls. An illusion of class in an outhouse of misery. Smells like…victory… McCain 08!
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ronwik writes:
"O-B-A-M-A (Muslim name) has made plenty of mistakes,"....and shows you [sic] lack of objectability through your narrow mindedness, prejudice and bogotry."
Hmmm. "Muslim Name"... What was your point about "bogotry"?... A derivative of Bogot I presume... The ancient art of Hypocritical Statements.
What I Learned This Week |
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I wasn't there, but going by the descriptions of the event, both Karl Rove and Col. North just gave speeches on gun rights.
If they gave good speeches, then the atmosphere in the place was probably feisty. In that context, I can sort of understand the "joke"; it's probable that people just sat through two rousing speeches detailing how people like Obama were trying to take our gun rights away. Huck is up and senses that people are righteously indignant. A chair falls over, causing a loud bang. Huck tries a quip that doesn't work, and apologizes later.
But I agree that it looks like this incident takes Huckabee out of the running for VP.
Then again, Huckabee's saying something that annoys a segment of conservatives actually may be attractive to McCain.
Nevertheless, when I heard this, I instinctively ducked my head in embarrassment, even though I was alone. Of course, when I read the headline, I automatically interpreted it as saying that Huckabee was joking that HE was going to point a gun at Obama, and that's probably how the incident will be remembered, unfortunately. |
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[MaineConservative on May 17, 2008 11:47 PM]"You're either going to have to put the question in the heading or I will be unable to answer. I don't read the body of your posts"
Do you think it's true that people can become Gods?
Smith, Joseph. 6 April 1844. "King Follett Discourse"
http://www.journalofdiscourses.org/Vol_06/refJDvol6-1.html
Here, then, is eternal life-to know the only wise and
true God; and you have got to learn how to be Gods
yourselves, and to be kings and priests to God, the
same as all Gods have done before you,-namely, by
going from one small degree to another, and from a
small capacity to a great one,-from grace to grace,
from exaltation to exaltation, until you attain to the
resurrection of the dead, and are able to dwell in
everlasting burnings and to sit in glory, as do those
who sit enthroned in everlasting power.
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What is it? To inherit the same power, the same
glory, and the same exaltation, until you arrive at
the station of a God and ascend the throne of
eternal power, the same as those who have gone
before.
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Never again. Synth is always off topic, always insulting Mormons, their leaders, their doctrine, in the promotion of his guy, Huckabee.
Huckabee's got problems now, and maybe just maybe, he will leave the limelight and enter obscurity, and take Synth and his followers with him.
If you want us to appreciate you for your ability to contribute to our dialogue, Synth, you can still earn it. No one is beyond redemption/try writing some thoughtful analysis ON the topic. But you won't. I'm guessing you stopped caring about being appreciated a long time ago.
I no longer respond to your posts. And this isn't a reponse to you either. I'm responding to MaineCon to let him know that I don't read your posts either. So if you do decide to change your stripes, I hope someone will tell me because I won't have noticed.
Now, can we please get back to Huckabee's sick remark? |
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You're either going to have to put the question in the heading or I will be unable to answer. I don't read the body of your posts...sorry. |
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[MaineConservative on May 17, 2008 11:27 PM]"I must have had a brain cramp by actually asking you a question. I retract it."
I have a question for you:
Do you think it's true that people can become Gods?
Smith, Joseph. 6 April 1844. "King Follett Discourse"
http://www.journalofdiscourses.org/Vol_06/refJDvol6-1.html
Here, then, is eternal life-to know the only wise and
true God; and you have got to learn how to be Gods
yourselves, and to be kings and priests to God, the
same as all Gods have done before you,-namely, by
going from one small degree to another, and from a
small capacity to a great one,-from grace to grace,
from exaltation to exaltation, until you attain to the
resurrection of the dead, and are able to dwell in
everlasting burnings and to sit in glory, as do those
who sit enthroned in everlasting power.
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What is it? To inherit the same power, the same
glory, and the same exaltation, until you arrive at
the station of a God and ascend the throne of
eternal power, the same as those who have gone
before.
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I must have had a brain cramp by actually asking you a question. I retract it.
This is why I scroll through your posts without reading them anymore. Keeping every post back into February (and probably even further) is a bit creeping - almost like a stalker. |
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[MaineConservative on May 17, 2008 7:48 PM]"I don't read your posts anymore"
OK. I've read a few of yours-- to illustrate:
[MaineConservative on February 15, 2008 8:58 AM]"Huckabee is the one who made religion the issue"
Have you looked at this book?:
_A Mormon in the White House?: 10 Things Every American Should Know about Mitt Romney_
by Hugh Hewitt
http://www.amazon.com/Mormon-White-House-Things-American/dp /159698502X
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[MaineConservative on February 10, 2008 7:42 PM]"I think he exploited religion for political gain by his dishonorable attacks on Romney's religion."
What did those attacks consist of?-- details about those attacks?
[MaineConservative on February 4, 2008 11:19 AM]"I am so proud of my state today. On the same day that our two liberal senators endorsed McCain, the people of Maine showed overwhelming support for Romney."
Sen. Susan Collins, Maine,
Sen. Olympia Snowe, Maine,
Romney, and McCain
members of Republican Main Street Partnership
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=c950b53d-1270-42c0-970 f-5ef079071753%40s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com
Romney owes talk radio debt of gratitude
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.republicans/msg /f66e6dad0487ed0f
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Huck apologized soon after; however it just reiterates his lack of understanding and judgement. The less I see and hear from that hick the better I like it.
By the way Synth, I don't read your posts anymore, but it appears (from the headings of your posts) that you take this blunder by Huck as a reason to attack Romney. What in the huck is the connection? |
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Huck meant his comment as a joke, but most of us can't take a joke like that. For one thing it wasn't funny. And for another if you were to put the shoe on the other foot, you would probably begin to feel the same way that those who are horribly offended by it. Imagine the reverse of this joke, imagine Obama said this of Huckabee, or McCain, or Romney, or {insert Republican du jour}. Then how would you feel about it? Suddenly, a sick joke becomes stunningly offensive to us.
I don't see how regular folks, those not already enamoured by him, can forgive and forget this kind of joke. It will haunt Huckabee for the rest of his public life. |
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Synthesizer,
I don't know how Dan in SC arrives at the position that Bob Barr is 1000X times more conservative than John McCain.
Bob Barr opposes the Iraq War, and Barr doesn't see anything wrong with the way the California Supreme Court used judicial activism to strike down the democratic (small 'd') will of the people regarding same-sex marriage.
Food for thought; if Barr doesn't see anything wrong with judicial activism in California, does that give you confidence in his ability to make good nominations to the federal judiciary ? |
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[Dan in SC on May 17, 2008 6:39 AM]"Not only is he in favor a big government and higher taxes"
28 November 2007 Dick Morris
"Mike Huckabee is a fiscal conservative"
http://thehill.com/dick-morris/mike-huckabee-is-a-fiscal-co nservative-2007-11-28.html
12/3/01
Americans for Tax Reform (ATR) today awards Governor Mike Huckabee of Arkansas "Friend of the Taxpayer" for the month of December.
http://www.atr.org/content/html/statepre2004/120301pr-2.htm l
"Governor Huckabee clearly possesses the courage to act upon his convictions," said Grover Norquist, President of ATR. "I commend Governor Huckabee for the choice he has given the taxpayers of Arkansas: contribute additional income to the Tax Me More Fund, or don't. In the meantime, state government will cut spending. State government officials across the nation should take note of Governor Huckabee's example of how to handle a spending shortfall."
"he plays right into the hands of the people who want to stereotype conservatives as dumb"
Does G.W. do that?
"If McCain wants a guaranteed loss in the general, just go ahead and pick"
Who *should* McCain pick?
Dan in SC, what's your explanation for Romney coming in 4th in SC?
As you know, Romney spent boatloads of money in advertising.
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I didnt think the Republicans could do any worse than McCain, but boy was I wrong! Huckabee takes the cake for being the worst kind of Republican. Not only is he in favor a big government and higher taxes, he plays right into the hands of the people who want to stereotype conservatives as dumb, racist, hicks. Boo to Huckabee!!
If McCain wants a guaranteed loss in the general, just go ahead and pick the Huckster for veep. |
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Pasadena Phil writes: Friday, May, 16, 2008 "Well, he is a yuckster
Do we really need to keep recycling our embarrassments? He not only looks like Gomer Pyle, he doesn't seem to be any smarter. New rule: no more crooked ex-governors/ex-preachers from Arkansas!"
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Amen to that, Pasadena Phil! Must be something in the water in Hope, Arkansas...scary politicians! |
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Huck shows his true colors again. Please let this be the end of his presidential ambitions. |
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[Pasadena Phil on May 16, 2008 8:15 PM]"The more either side talks, the scarier it gets!"
Ecclesiastes 5 (New International Version)
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ecclesiastes%20 5;&version=31;
2 Do not be quick with your mouth,
do not be hasty in your heart
to utter anything before God.
God is in heaven
and you are on earth,
so let your words be few.
3 As a dream comes when there are many cares,
so the speech of a fool when there are many words.
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[Lori on May 16, 2008 6:50 PM]"expect a visit from the Secret Service"
Speaking of meetings, do you think that [Alma 34:31]"this life is the time for men to prepare to meet God"?
Do you agree that after death, [Alma 34:34]"Ye cannot say, when ye are brought to that awful crisis, that I will repent, that I will return to my God"?
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is this life the time for people to prepare to meet God?
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.mormon/msg/3269 32b50c9e9776
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A joke is a joke, and those who are actually worried about a Barack Obama assassination are hypersensitive and paranoid. You only owe people an apology when you do something wrong, not simply because people make a fuss.
Huckabee should tell them to get over it and shove it where the moon don't shine. Of course, he's too nice a fellow to do that, but if kindness is his worst flaw, then that's something I can live with. |
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If McCain's strategy is to win by forfeit, why doesn't he just tell everyone to just stay home and not talk to anybody? Himself included! The more either side talks, the scarier it gets! |
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[maggie on May 16, 2008 6:22 PM]"Why do people continue to let him [Huckabee] speak or even listen to him for that matter?"
Why do people continue to vote for Huckabee?
May 13, 2008 West Virginia Primary
McCain 76%
Huckabee 10%
Paul 5%
May 6, 2008 Indiana Primary
McCain 77%
Huckabee 10%
Paul 8%
May 6, 2008 North Carolina Primary
McCain 74%
Huckabee 12% (and 8 delegates)
Paul 7%
No Preference 4%
Data source:
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/scorecar d/#R
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One cannot joke about assassination attempts. The Secret Service will be at his doorstep. Those guys can't take a joke, nor should they. |
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These Republican VP candidates keep doing stupid things.
Consider Rob Portman. He was a Congressman from the Cincinnati district in Ohio. He spent his time on House Ways and Means. He's been in a couple of appointed positions since stepping away from Congress. Clean as a whistle from what I know. A couple of years older than Obama. But I submit that once out there, most people from both parties will say, "Why isn't this guy running for president himself?"
Keep your eyes open. |
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time Huckabee told an off-handed joke that wasn't funny,but it may have been the dumbest. Just goes to show his true character. Why do people continue to let him speak or even listen to him for that matter? |
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Do we really need to keep recycling our embarrassments? He not only looks like Gomer Pyle, he doesn't seem to be any smarter. New rule: no more crooked ex-governors/ex-preachers from Arkansas! |
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...like the idea, but then, I don't care much for McCain either.
They obviously don't like each other...I don't think it works. |
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Well, yes, some may think it's funny. It's try that Obama has the perception that legal gun owners are the ones out there shooting people. I probably won't not make this comment; but he will most likely apologize for it.
If Obama can survive, "bitter gate", "typical white person", "punnished with a baby" , Rev. Wrong then I think Huck can survive this one. |
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[paddy o'furniture on May 16, 2008 5:18 PM]"Great....just what we need.... He's given the left a soundbite they can use for a long time. So much for Huck for VP"
What do you think of Romney for VP?
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Mitt Romney: From Flip-Flop To See-Saw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=up60e-ygalU
Tammy Bruce: Romney's fantasies become reality to him: 2:00+
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMlHy-2Er1I
Romney: McCain's bill gives, and doesn't give, amnesty to illegals
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RtlC4g96ck
Romney lying in 2002, or lying now
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43TVmSoaQ7c
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He's given the left a soundbite they can use for a long time. So much for Huck for VP.... |
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