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So anything two people that had a fund raiser with Obama over 10 years ago and are "friendly" now tells us something about Obama? Hugh you were friendly with Nixon, does that mean you are anti-semitic? Does the audio tape of Nixon with the Reverend Billy Graham tell us something about you? Now if Ayers and Obama were best friends then MAYBE you could have an argument, but this guilt by association game is going into silly season. |
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The thrill of the Clinton victory tonight, just simply erased from the MSM's mind any exploration of Ayers et al. It is on to Indiana and N. Carolina. The tapes were disgusting. It is too bad that decades ago, these radical bombers weren't put out of their pain. Be that as it is, Obama now has his own problems and it is not Ayers. It is the fact that now the Hildabeast is in the role of the Comeback kid . Just another Clinton but it is a powerful kick in the rear of the Messiah. Still, Obama should win the whole shebang and only more revelations of his incompetence and past radicalism will slow him down. Keep up the good work Chicago producers and thanks Hugh for airing the Ayers tapes though it will not faze one liberal Dem voter. They love to hate the USA and Ayers is a hero to them. |
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You can see it in the voting returns today in Pennsylvania. Barak Obama had a pattern of little signals that are now catching up to him. In large part he brought this on himself by not recognizing it, thinking it was better to cater to the liberal wing of his party, or it truely reflects what he actually believes.
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So what are we to make of this?...
1. Democrats will have additional time to rebut Conservative rhetoric, taking John McCain out of the media spotlight.
2. Democratic Talking Points will lead the debate, against Conservative criticism.
3. Obama will avoid potential one-on-one against McCain and MSM
4. Hillary has the opportunity to benefit from short-lived momentum
5. Conservative Radio will concern themselves with Democratic Candidates only.
... Just an observation.
What I Learned This Week (http://whatilearnedthisweek.wordpress.com/) Obama's Dilemma |
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I might agree with you, but BO held his campaign launch there and that is a much more significant level of closeness than an out-of-town fundraiser host.
That, plus the other company he keeps with Mr Wright and the "off-the-record" elitist tone of his comments with his tony friends and as Joe points out things are beginning to add-up as to what kind of a guy BO is. And that guy is no friend of the average blue-collar dem voter.
Look for a landslide in NC of white dem voters for HRC. She might not win there but she may be close enough to argue that she won the National popular vote (granted that's a nebulous thing in both the primaries and in the general, but it will carry water with the superdelegates).
BO may have been right to use the term "bitter" but he may have used it on the wrong group of people. If BO loses the nomination it will be the liberal elites that are bitter more bitter than they are tonight that the rank and file dems in PA refused to do their bidding. |
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friends.
So, if Ayres & Dohrn are irrelevant, why worry? Why the fuss, dimocrats?
If it means nothing, why editorialize against our discussion of Ayres & Dohrn?
Are you guys afraid?
Do dimocrats FEAR babakazama's coming 'swift-boat?'
Do dimocrats worry how their fair-haired boy will appear to "typical White" or "Bitter...clinging to guns and religion" type voters?
Do dimocrats have some apprehension about how Jeremiah Wright, turned out in his sequined Elivis Kenevel jumpsuits will look hopping around like a crack smoking babboon on 30 second television adverts?
I think they do, otherwise, they wouldn't moan about. |
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1. Despite outspending Hillary 3-1, Barry lost the white vote by an almost 2-1 margin. So much for Barry's claim he is a unifier; he can't even unify his own party.
2. Barry has now lost ALL of the large states-Ohio, Pennsylvania, Florida, Texas, California, New Jersey, Massachussetts, and New York- except for his home state.
3. Hillary and talk radio will continue to tarnish the halo of the Prissy Professor.
4. Barry will now lose Indiana, Kentucky, and West Virginia. At some point, the Anderson Coopers of the world will have to come to grip with the reality that Barry has pee-peed in his cornflakes with white, working class voters.
5. Hillary will win the total Democratic primary and caucus popular vote. It will be funny to watch Barry explain why he should be the nominee despite Hillary winning more votes.
6. Bottom line-McCain wins in November.
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concern ourselves about now is the possibility that BO's winning the nomination but losing the ability to win the general single-handedly will compell him ask HRC to be the Veep nominee.
The pressure will mount for HRC to accept so that at least there will be a first female VP.
Increasingly, that looks to be the only way for the dems to beat JM. |
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and HRC is now only at 54.7% of the vote. Will we have heard the last of you here or will you round-up? |
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Have these sound bites been uploaded into digital format yet, and if so, where are the links? I'd like to post them on http://gawfer.net
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She won't take the Vice Presidency.
She has already been Co-President; the vice presidency would be a step down.
If Barry is the nominee, she will, of course, privately root for McCain so she can run 4 years from now.
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she doesn't accept the veep nom. But the pressure on her to take it will be enormous - particularly from the MSM. |
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If the margin ends up being 10, I would dearly hope Mr. Cosell sticks around. He is a heck of alot MORE ACCURATE in his predictions than many of Obamabots in the media and on this site.
I guess it would be TOO much to ask the Obamabots who frequent this site to explain how Hillary, despite being outspent 3-1, beat the Prissy Professor by 200,000 votes in a state where only REGISTERED Democrats could vote? |
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The MSM has been pressuring Hillary to drop out of the race now for weeks. We see how that has influenced her.
It will be infinitely more fun for her to watch Barry get beat decisively by McCain and then challenge his successor in 4 years.
Yes, I think McCain will only serve one term. I suspect at some point he will make this known, which ironically will only help him recruit disgruntled Hillary supporters if Barry ends up being the nominee DESPITE losing the popular vote.
The BIG NEWS TONIGHT-Hillary is on track to winning the primary/caucus season popular vote. I have little doubt of that now.
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equals instant lame-duck status. IMO it would be a politically-fatal thing to do. The pope is 81 and he's on his game by all accounts, so who's to say that JM couldn't be an effective prez for eight yrs? |
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of the race. In the dem proportional vote system he has more delegates.
-HRC won all of the big states -HRC would have won if the Dems were using the winner take all GOP format -HRC looks to be winning the pop vote -take away the bizarre thinly representative caucuses and she wins going away even in the proportional system.
Except for the number/system that counts, HRC wins. The case is pretty strong for the supers to vote for HRC. Too bad (for the dems) that that would mean the atomization of the pony party. |
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You raise a good point about lameduck status.
However, he could campaign on a "Lets set aside politics and do serve our country theme"-stressing 3 to 4 big issues. He could tell the voters he will be going to them in 2010 with a report card telling them how their congressman or senator has helped or hurt him accomplish these 3-4 big issues.
McCain does come from an impressive gene pool with regard to longetivity. He may, as you state, have it in him for 2 terms. He is a very very tough old bird, far tougher than the Prissy Professor.
If it is one-term, he better pick a Veep we in the base would be satisfied with. I think he will. |
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How honest can we be?
Dean and the Super Delegates are TERRIFIED, TERRIFIED about how AAs(and the college kids to a lesser extent) would react at the convention if Barry is not the nominee.
Doug Wilder, dare I say, attempted to blackmail the SuperDelegates over a month ago with his threats of violence at the convention of Barry was somehow not the nominee. Dean, Pelosi, and some of the MSM types know this is a very real threat.
Just imagine how this might play out on tv? It would be disastrous for the party, but it would make for some riveting tv.
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Law enforcement agencies across the U.S. have been quietly preparing for riots in the event Obama loses the nomination. No similar concerns if Hillary loses. |
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to get some of those 3 or 4 items through congress and the senate. As senators aare in for six years JM needs to have the 8 yrs of leverage. As a committed one-termer he would have no coat-tails particularly with 33% of the senate.
In a very bizarre way HRC is now solidly the non-establishment candidate. The far-left elites that have run the party pre and post the Bill Clinton era are facing a revolt by the traditional union/blue-collar wing.
An interesting dynamic is John Edwards as he represents a distinct part of the party. I confess I do not know if he has pledged his support to either candidate. If he hasn't he could really play the king/queen maker. |
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HRC has 54.744% of the vote. |
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Tiger predicted some time ago. If, by some means, HRC were to be the nominee, "there will be blood."
Right now, it's hard to see how she could do it. But if she does, high drama on a TV near you.
Hill's best bet is to let BHO have it, pray for a McCain win and go for 2012, during which we can do this all over again. |
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You bring up an interesting point. What's with the Edwards' delegates? Why is no one's talking about them? How many are there? Can they support whatever candidate they choose once they are released? |
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If this is how the dems run their own party, god help america if they win in nov. |
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Hey, lay off Howard. Bluster is stock-in-trade around here. What would a right-winger be without a little premature chest thumping? Everyone is entitled to be wrong--and Howard is a funny, good natured guy.. |
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I think Edwards has 15-20. |
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as it is his endorsement. It would signal which way the remaining states and supers should vote |
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McCainism has failed.
Ron Paul has taken a million primary votes out of 20 million cast. McCain took about 7 so far.
In the general election in 2004, R's took 60 million votes total. So there will be 3x as many voters, and Paul will probably suck down 3 million of mccain's voters.
This means McCain can't win. Since the GOP hates conservatives, we'll just hate them right back. |
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I think Ron Paul is a moon bat. He is cut from the same cloth (a leftover straight jacket?) as Lyndon LaRouche and Ross Perot.
Testes Testes...I've got two. |
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Screw Obama---I don't give a crap about him.
Once again, these audio tapes highlight, for me, the HATE manifested by the Left in our country.
This HATE remains secure in so many of our revered institutions:
UNIVERSITIES/PUBLIC SCHOOLS: 1.) College professors with extreme liberal views and Leftist dogma are the norm (i.e. Liberal Arts, Social Sciences, Ethnic Studies, etc.). The Democrat party considers this comfy-cozy dynamic a, "recruiting station" for their side. And that "tenure" feature is not only a great employee benefit, it ensures unobstructed dispensing of whatever the heart, soul, and passions of the instructor are in expressing their HATE for America, its values, its goodness. Examples of politicizing issues in elementary schools are ever-increasing. Why do pre-teens need to be "politically-juiced"?
2.) Liberal schisms are occurring in many of our churches across the country. Gay pastors emerging and injecting their personally-politicized agendas. Black Liberal Theology. Crap, now there's a spiritual foundation for love, forgiveness, reflection. Afro-centrism? Jesus is black? I suppose he was illiterate and loved hip-hop music as well. And when His closest friends (and Apostles) excelled at learning---you know Jesus smacked 'em down. It gots to be.
These audio tapes, for me, illustrate that, HATE-AMERICA is alive and well---taught in our schools, taught in our churches, and, reflected within the Democrat party. Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, Ted Kennedy. Picture perfect examples. |
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When Maureen Dodd is writing stuff like this:
Is he skittish around her because he knows that she detests him and he’s used to charming everyone? Or does he feel guilty that he cut in line ahead of her? As the husband of Michelle, does he know better than to defy the will of a strong woman? Or is he simply scared of Hillary because she’s scary?
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/23/opinion/23dowd.html?_r=1& hp&oref=slogin |
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This morning I have been sorting through some of the Pennsylvania debris and I'm struck by how weak Barry is with some key demographic groups.
Barry lost Catholics by an even bigger margin than he lost them in Ohio. He lost Jewish voters by an 15 points. He lost white voters by an almost 2-1 margin. And the AAs and the under 30 crowd which are supposed to be those most under his spell, did NOT show up at historically high rates. Apparently, the Koo-Aid is getting weaker as this goes on.
One critical point- the delegates are NOT the story; it's the total primary/caucus popular vote. Hillary is going to run up huge margins in West Virginia and Kentucky. She will win Indiana and has a shot at winning the three western states-Montana, South Dakota, and Oregon. Her goal in North Carolina is just to keep it respectable (remember, 1/3 of the primary voters will be AA).
When all is said and done, she is going to end up winning more VOTERS than Barry. The nervousness you are seeing from the Obamabot press is a reflection of that growing awareness. Even with a fawning press (CNN and MSNBC) and the huge netroot financial advantage he has, Hillary is going to win the popular vote.
So the super delegates are about to face the type of adult decision many cake-and-eat-it-too liberals don't like: either give it to the pledge delegate leader OR give it to the popular vote leader.
If the situation was reversed, with Barry winning the popular vote but losing the pledged delegates, is there ANY doubt as to what the super delegates would do?
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...get those riot police in gear.
Who do you believe is the more difficult opponent for McCain? Is Evita/Madonna (the real one) v. the Grumpy but Venerable Grampa a dicier match-up for the GOP?
How much of a factor are Hispanics? I can see them voting for Hillary because of their natural tendancy to look to a woman as intercessor. I cannot see Hispanics voting for Barack over McCain. |
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just yet, Boyo. Blovie(PL)and I totally agree on that! Don't be leaving town, Howard. You are Valued Here. |
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your Guest Sprinters in your yard, please ask them: Pedro y Juanita, who do ustedes prefero on Americano electo...Hillary or McCain-o??
:-) Yeah, Senora K.B., I'm all about what'cha'call yer bi-lingualism. |
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I am going to unleash the mountain lion on BHO/HRC and send them running for Cuba. And unleash your Spanish on the guest sprinters and send them running for Guadalajara.
This is the kind of change we've been hoping for. |
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Pooshaaaw, shucks...Go on with ya, Girl.
I am, as is well known, A Giver. |
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Clinton-Obama in the fall. Clinton has the best chance of beating McCain and Obama must be on the ticket to pacify the far left and the black wings of the Dems.
The Dem leadership will eventually come to realize this and before the convention it will all be worked out. They must do this to prevent the splintering of the Dem coalitions.
Obama will go along because he will realize the wisdom of it. Also, as VP he is set up in the Dem party as a leader for the long haul, as well as being part of history.
Clinton-Obama will present McCain the greatest challenge and consequently who McCain picks for VP will be more important than usual. It will be vital that McCain pick a VP that will energize the right wing of the GOP with whom McCain is weak. McCain himself appeals strongly to the left wing of the GOP and the Reagan Democrats. It should be a real donnybrook this fall. The November results will be 50-49, but I cannot predict who will have the 50. |
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also prevents a Dem meltdown in Denver. Michigan and Florida delegates will be seated. Clinton and Obama will be standing and hugging on stage at the convention. Obama will agree to this scenario before the convention so that his followers will have time to cool off before the convention.
It is the only out the Dems have. If Obama is the nominee, the Dems will definitely lose in November. They already know that. Also, Obama's character issues are reduced to meaninglessness if he is the VP candidate instead of the POTUS candidate. |
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knocking Bill Clinton's campaigning style are completely missing the point. Remember Bill Clinton is a political genius.
His posturing on race is designed to make the HRC-BHO contest about race and about how the blacks are over-reacting to the race issue. This is cueing the more intolerant white Dem voters to reject Obama.
Whether he refutes what he said the day before or not, remember he has the press daily emphasizing Obama's race and gets whites looking at the 15-1 support Obama is receiving from his racial compadres. If it is good for the goose, it is good for the gander. If black dems can vote based on race, maybe white dems should also. Never underestimate Bill Clinton and his political acumen. I will take his over Dick Morris or any other Dem. The only person who is in his ballpark politically is Karl Rove, another political genius. |
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Bill was brilliant when he had Dick Morris as an advisor, he almost crashed and burned without him.
You underestimate the power hunger and ego of both the Nasticratic candidates. They will not come together for the good of all. Republicans cannot beat the Nasticrats this year, but they can and will beat themselves. It is the Psalms 7 paradox and it gets them everytime. |
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These words of yours will be proven wrong when the two stand together and urge all Americans to vote Democratic--for the sake of our country. All YOU are doing is simply imputing and projecting..
What IS going on, and the reason why the fighting is so intense, is the battle for the Presidency. Defeating the stale, worn, uninteresting Republican ticket will be child's play. |
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I could see BHO picking a Clinton loyalist like Wesley Clark. But ideally HRC would take the second spot, like LBJ to Jack. I always thought HRC would be an awesome majority leader in the Senate. Something can be done--and will be done--to make sure this courageous and tough lady takes her proper place at the very front rank of this country's leadership. |
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"...this courageous and tough lady..." (Hillary described by Blovie)
Courageous: Read, Co-Dependent Enabler of a 30+ year serial-compulsive-malignant philanderer.
Tough: Read, Shrill, Brittle, Ruthless, Dishonest and Unforgiving of the Wrong People. Tough? Right. |
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You don't say. She told me she thought you were a nice guy - really smart, a real gentleman. I agreed, adding, "and politically astute,too." |
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She told me the same thing. I said, "are you sure we're talking about the same 'cootscum?" |
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other's Mom's basement and be happy, fellas. Whew. And, PLEASE, talk and type to each other ALOT. Please. Pleassssseeeee. |
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I think that's where conservatives live. Us liberals are college educated and gainfully employed. |
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Work on your comebacks, fo'ty fo'. They really bad. "Your Mom's basement"? That what happened to you? Why'd she put you there? Were you BAD?
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..continues his drive toward the silvery mountain peak. Crawling up the lava slope, hands and knees cut to pieces, his dog gone now, he becomes delusionary. (Oh my conservatives, why have thee forsaken me?) The image of his mother appears on the slope above him, hands on her hips, her face a mask of indifference. "Get up those stairs, boy. Climb!" He does! The stars in the southern sky twinkle above, he sees his goal, the peak, rise above him like a More.. |
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you, sir, are a funny guy. |
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Ya can't help yourself, Neo. Call up your feminine side of the unconscious: Nea, like your mom. She'll release you from the basement of your soul, fo'ty fo'..
Meanwhile, the story:
..moonscape, all light and shadow. But there is a way. He arrives at a stony path, which curls up into the dark, and he takes it. Hours into this difficult hike, he arrives at a plateau. Exhausted, he finds only a small table with a radio; he turns it on. It's EIB, Rush, urging him on. Muttering dittos, he finds himself facing a huge
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