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Friday, August 07, 2009
Thoughts on the MO Townhall Meeting Clash
Posted by: Matt Lewis at 2:53 PM
Red Dirt Report's Andrew Griffin has some interesting thoughts on yesterday's health care town hall in St. Louis.  He is friends with the reporter who was arrested...

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Legally Remove BO writes: Sunday, August, 09, 2009 9:20 AM
YES INDICT boTHUGS & send 'em all 2 JAIL
Our Founding Fathers gave We the People the Fourth Branch of Government, the Citizens Grand Jury, in Our Bill of Rights. These 12 Simple Steps are the way for Patriots to keep control of the Government:

1) Advertise and Promote the Fact that you are forming a Grand Jury in Blogs, Local Newspapers and Community Organizations.
2) Form the Grand Jury and select a Foreman.
3) Select a Private Attorney General to make Presentments to Grand Jury, if local DA refuses to make presentments.
4) Select a convenient Meeting Place.
5) Communicate with all Citizens who have criminal information to present.
6) Schedule presentments by said Citizens.
7) Subpoena documents from Government Offices and Officials.
8) Schedule presentment of said Documents to Grand Jury by Grand Jury Attorney General.
9. Have Grand Jury Attorney General present said Documents to Grand Jury.
10) After investigation and deliberation is completed, vote and issue a True Bill (Indictment) or No True Bill.
11 Announce all Indictments to the Press.
12) Serve the Indictment on the Judiciary for the Issuance of Arrest Warrants.

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Darryl writes: Sunday, August, 09, 2009 7:01 AM
Send the thugs to jail
Don’t these momo congressmen understand that the people need some questions answered, and if they don’t give them what they want, the Constituency may elect not to re-elect these mutts? Just because their Messiah says this is the plan that I want, the Constituency the ones who employ them may just tell them screw off and find a new job. What a bunch of Momo’s how did they get elected the first time? It is time for them to go.
Chicago bully tactics will not work, these union thugs will push someone too far someone will retaliate. Violence is not the answer
BK writes: Friday, August, 07, 2009 9:54 PM
Val Anguishes
There's no crying on blogs!

Hey, it's good that you can admit that you can't spell and that education you recieved was lacking. Maybe now you can keep your mouth shut about you being so intelligent. People can see who you are and how you act(speaking of hypocritical!).

You should learn a lesson from all this. People really don't like to see you trying to be better than you really are. Your true self does come out eventually and you simply make a fool of yourself.

Again..take your time: "Sam Admas"...who is Sam Admas?

Oh the Dolly Madison cake issue again. Well doesn't that make you smart. What education level did it take to become an expert on "snack cakes"? Was that a 2 year or 4 year program?

Really Val, is this the best you can do? It is becoming more and more embarrassing with each of your posts.

O'Reilly? You mean you actually watch "real" TV and not just the cartoon network.

Yes it is getting late for you. The orderlies must change shifts about now. Put that brown shirt on with the little hammer & sickle insignia on the pocket and call it a night.

Val..sincerely, you need to quit while you're behind! Bwahahahaha!
Val writes: Friday, August, 07, 2009 9:39 PM
BK
Oh that's right!Of course you have never mispelled something on a blog post in your entire life. "Typical Hypocrite."

You must be so proud of that acheivement. That must make you the world's tallest midget!

I guess its getting late and you are far less interesting than the episode of O'Reilly I recorded. I appologize to those who spelling is the most important thing on the site, but not to you "BK" because I know you are still trying to figure out who Dolly Madison actually was! I know you grasp of history stops at "Sam Admas" but come on man.

And as you would say; your embarrsment must be overwhelming being shown to be an small minded insect.

But its ok you have plenty to keep you company!

And that must be reassuring!
BK writes: Friday, August, 07, 2009 9:29 PM
Val sobs:
Awe comeon Val. You can't go through life just whining and crying. It's just no way to live your life. Try volunteering or working in a soup kitchen(no disrespect intended) or something constructive.

Trying to paint yourself as an intellectual is not very successful. You are losing the battle here and you are making a fool of yourself.

Case in point: Val says: "why I was right in my original assement of why would Hugh Hewitt want to hang around here with people such as yourself? The answer is self evident-he is gone and you have nothing but ignorance to offer."

What's an assement? What is a evident-he? Was that from a charter school that you attended?

Val continues: "You can go back to screaming your little head off about the brownshirts it only srves my point that we need vouchers. the public education system has produced people, such as yourself, so myopic that even in their reorts they recyle the lines of their betters resortng to vulgaity to make their points because their small minds operate on a faily base level."

That first sentence means what? the brownshirts it only srves? Save those vouchers for that GED lady.

"so myopic that even in their reorts(?)...resortng (?) to vulgaity (?)...on a faily (?) base level???????

What happened? Did they quit teaching you about writing? Did you even go to school?


The embarrassment that you must be feeling at this moment is obvious.

I think that it would be wise for you to retire for the evening and regroup tomorrow. Refill that keg of Kool-aid and try again at another time.

Now we can all see why the country is fk'd up with people like Val free and on the loose!
Val writes: Friday, August, 07, 2009 9:05 PM
and once BK again thanks for proving
why I was right in my original assement of why would Hugh Hewitt want to hang around here with people such as yourself? The answer is self evident-he is gone and you have nothing but ignorance to offer.

You can go back to screaming your little head off about the brownshirts it only srves my point that we need vouchers. the public education system has produced people, such as yourself, so myopic that even in their reorts they recyle the lines of their betters resortng to vulgaity to make their points because their small minds operate on a faily base level.

Much like the way a parrot is trained to squawk a word; it might talk but it has no idea what the words mean.

That is you BK.

Merry Christmas. You got more than a lump of coal this year.

"Little Debbie" indeed! I guess you thought she was the first lady! Oh somewhere a history instructor is getting the chills.
BK writes: Friday, August, 07, 2009 8:32 PM
Val
I wonder what your mother would think of you disparaging the fine work a woman puts in the kitchen for her children? I'm sure she would be very proud of you!
__________________________________________

Awe, don't cry. I know it must be tough on you here but just get off your knees and dust yourself off. I know that you are embarrassed but know that it is not as much as we are for you.

That's funny but I never said anything about being in the kitchen being a put-down. So this must be in your little mind. You can come out and play with the adults if you would just remove your head from your a$$!

Ah, your sexism try...kind of like your racism try...Try again!

Val says: Its ok I understand why people such as yourself have to "reach" when dealing with an superior intellect.
___________________________________________

Bwahahahahaha! I have no problem with intellectuals...you obviously aren't one of them.
Although I must say, you are a legend in your own mind.

Again, come back when you are all growd up and don't even begin to discuss the 60's...were you born yet? As a grade-school dropout, you must be able to read soemthing other than cartoons.
Maybe if you worked real hard you can still contribute something to society, even if it was going back for your GED!

Maybe you ought to call it a night. Your Kool-aid supply is wearing thin!
Val writes: Friday, August, 07, 2009 8:17 PM
BK
Of course you haven't spent as much time in the kitchen. You hardly seem like the culinary type.
I wonder what your mother would think of you disparaging the fine work a woman puts in the kitchen for her children? I'm sure she would be very proud of you! Besides everybody that real men know how to cook: it shows they know to take care of themselves. Self reliance is very attractive and it shows their mama's raised em right!

Now BK aside from the fact one does not "purchase" snacks cakes in a kitchen, it reasons your feelble attempt at sexism would be so far off the mark from the original point. Its ok I understand why people such as yourself have to "reach" when dealing with an superior intellect.

Now you're the one talking about conservatives causing "trouble" in the 60's(when no doubt you were stick sucking your thumb and wearing short pants). I never said who was doing what: clearly you are need of an intensive reading comprehension class.

I suggest you start ranting about Nazis and just call it a night.
BK writes: Friday, August, 07, 2009 8:02 PM
Val
Tell us again about all those conservatives causing violence in 1964. Bwahahahahahaha!
BK writes: Friday, August, 07, 2009 8:00 PM
Val
Well, I guess I didn't spend as much time in the kitchen as you. But then that's about all you are good at. By the way, they didn't sell Dolly Madison here.

But if that's all you got, it figures and I thought so.

Now we know how Obama got all those votes from weak-minded people such as yourself. Come back when you either grow up or have contributed something to our society. Otherwise, back to the kitchen with you!
Val writes: Friday, August, 07, 2009 7:56 PM
Note to BK
At the risk of embarassing you and revealing you as the complete and total idiot you are... I suggest you "google" what the business world calls "The Dolly Madison Bakery."

Seems they have a long history going back to the days of the when the quakers "American Renaissance" if you will.

Your last post is further proof what I said earlier about the voucher program. Public education has failed you utterly.
BK writes: Friday, August, 07, 2009 7:32 PM
Val
And here BK thought she just made snack cakes!
___________________________________________

That would be "Little Debbie" numbnuts!
BK writes: Friday, August, 07, 2009 7:31 PM
Val Bloviates
BK makes a historical error based on the propaganda he has been spoon fed. This marked lack of historic knowledge and perspective on this issue is really quite remarkable and once again shows that our public education system is shot. I mean between mangling history and calling people brownshirts this "BK" is clearly the poster child for why we need School vouchers.
____________________________________________

Care to detail your accusations or do you just open your mouth with that big foot hanging out all the time?
Cicero writes: Friday, August, 07, 2009 6:12 PM
Carol - next Shaara book to read. . .
"Gods and Generals".

From the movie:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYzt1ao81jU


The Plumber writes: Friday, August, 07, 2009 6:08 PM
This is great!
The Democrats are doing to themselves what Reagan forced the Soviets to do. Nobody said that the death of socialism would be pretty.

It's actually BEAUTIFUL!

Keep pushin' Democrats!

Critical mass.
Val writes: Friday, August, 07, 2009 5:47 PM
American
I utterly take back what I said earlier about collective IQs dropping on this site.

Finally somebody with a grasp of my "main man" Alexander Hamilton! Last time i mentioned him some miscreant offered to have D*ck(ha! they censored the name!) Cheney shoot me!

Thanks for the intellectual "scooby-snacks."

"Factoid": did you know Hamiliton founded the "New York Post" and used it to publish much of the Federalist papers? He called his first printing press "Old Dolly" after America's real "First Lady" Dolly Madison.

And here BK thought she just made snack cakes!

American writes: Friday, August, 07, 2009 5:12 PM
Val 2

"Are you reffering to "classic liberalism?"

Not in its entirety, no. The socialists have made way too much progress in the past 110 years to allow that to occur.

Liberal as in recognizing that we are in a dual federalist government, and that the powers of both have their merits.

Liberal in recognizing that between socialists and conservatives there is little difference and that the record is quite clear on that fact.

Not a libertarian on social issues but on fiscal and monetary issues they are closer to what our founders had in mind than socialists or their enablers who hide behind "fiscal conservatism".

And yes, I regard our political process, our media, and the West in general as Solzhenitsyn did.

"In the GOP haste to "white wash" the past they forget that people who lived through those times know better."

Won't get argument from me on this.

Val writes: Friday, August, 07, 2009 5:00 PM
American!!!!!!and...ugh... "BK"
You just made this old lady stand up and salute!
Some of what you said was very effective.

I would refrain from lumping me with either side however as I'm more liberatrian than anything else. Big Armbinder fan here.

I'm not sure what you mean by a true liberal-perhaps this one of those favored "founding father" references? Are you reffering to "classic liberalism?"

BK makes a historical error based on the propaganda he has been spoon fed. This marked lack of historic knowledge and perspective on this issue is really quite remarkable and once again shows that our public education system is shot. I mean between mangling history and calling people brownshirts this "BK" is clearly the poster child for why we need School vouchers.

In the GOP haste to "white wash" the past they forget that people who lived through those times know better.

American writes: Friday, August, 07, 2009 5:00 PM
Richard

"But sure, blame this out of proportion rage on Union Thugs and not on those who need to demonize Obama after they lost an election like that psycho clown prince Glenn Beck, who's resorted to warning his audience of loons to not start bombing...yet. Over healthcare."



Haven't read the bill as it stands have ya?

I don't support the antics, but I do expect politicians to know what they're signing. Obama freely admits to having a scant knowledge of the five bills in circulation right now.

Would you like to bet that those in the healthcare industry are as obtuse about the various legislation as Obama or Congress? Why are doctors either seriously questioning the AMA, or are leaving it in droves?

Would you like to bet that seniors are as uninformed as Obama and those politicians holding those townhalls who are facing them? Ya think they might be angry because they can comprehend what they are reading in the bills? Even better than those who are holding the townhalls?

Everything about this debate stinks; from uninformed politicians to the small stages passing for townhalls which force people to be turned away?

What did you, and those of your ideological bent expect once the details got out?

I think you really need to sit and think about your position more, Richard.

Big Sky Cowboy writes: Friday, August, 07, 2009 4:50 PM
Richard
I see you are getting your talking points from Keith Olberdingdong, Rachel Maddow and Mr.Ed (the wonder horse) Schultz.
Marty writes: Friday, August, 07, 2009 4:50 PM
Carol: Obama is compared to Hitler
I laughed out loud reading a headline at the Huffington Post...Pelosi Protester's, including Kid in Stroller, Compare Obama to Hitler.

Now Obama can join the ranks of Republican Presidents that the left compared to Hitler.

It seems liberal / progressives are in a snit and it's laughable watching them meltdown.



Richard writes: Friday, August, 07, 2009 4:45 PM
GOP Thuggery At Its Finest
What you see are frightened elderly and naive who listen to far too much paranoid reactionary talk radio. Complaining about the medicare they already get from the government? And in that footage, how about those poor angry folks YELLING at a little person on stage? Pathetic.

But sure, blame this out of proportion rage on Union Thugs and not on those who need to demonize Obama after they lost an election like that psycho clown prince Glenn Beck, who's resorted to warning his audience of loons to not start bombing...yet. Over healthcare.

And pity how those on the right most screwed over by big corporations like the insurance and pharma companies, always stand by their side in some ersatz peversion of free-market principles.
Carol writes: Friday, August, 07, 2009 4:35 PM
Marty
Obama DOES NOT CARE what is in the bill - he just wants a bill to sign to save his face.

I jsut began reading "Rise to Rebellion" by Jeff Shaara. It begins with the Boston Massacre. I got chills all over when I read his account of that event - the rage of the colonists - folks - we're there again.
American writes: Friday, August, 07, 2009 4:35 PM
Val

"Certain repressed losers are overreacting. Where was all this verbosity when Obama was saying he wanted to end the war? If you think you're going to win the health care "debate" by kicking your feet and bawling like and infant then you are going to be in for a big surprise. If the currrent trend continues they will shut the townhalls down."

Ya know, when the previous administration was in power, there wasn't a day that went by where I would turn on CSPAN and not see one of your ideological brethren being carted out of some committee chamber by security for acting the fool.

I don't support the antics that are going on in townhalls and I'll tell you why:

Because this exploitative behavior is exactly what the socialists want conservatives to do in helping them to enable government control of healthcare.

Neither want well staged debate.

Between both socialists and conservatives, they're both too stupid to know the difference, and this is highlighted everyday by the punditry on both sides.

It's why it's time for true liberal candidates to actually clean up the mess both wretched party idealogues are making.
Marty writes: Friday, August, 07, 2009 4:28 PM
Val: GOP Party of No?
Democrats called the Republicans the Party of No so we know that none of them voted for healthcare reform.

A senior citizen tripped up former Republican now Democrat Arlen Specter...Specter couldn't answer the questions.

Yes, I like watching Specter squirm...

BK writes: Friday, August, 07, 2009 4:22 PM
Obama The Uniter
Thank God that Obama can secure his storm trooper SEIU Union member buddies to beat the crap out of the elderly who may attend a Town Hall meeting to discuss healthcare. They even beat up a black brother trying to enter to hear about healthcare.

Ah, Chicago thuggery politics!
Cicero writes: Friday, August, 07, 2009 4:22 PM
Diane. . .
"I can't imagine turning these union thugs loose on the retired people."

Remember that incident during an election or two ago where union thugs surrounded a protester with his little 4-year old girl, roughed the guy up a little, and sent the little girl into a crying fit?

One more argument for making unions a thing of the past.
BK writes: Friday, August, 07, 2009 4:15 PM
Val writes:
Yes what a salacious little tale of racism, police brutality, and free speech. Takes me back to 1964
____________________________________________

Yup..and those were the Democrats who were responsible for the police brutality.
Val writes: Friday, August, 07, 2009 4:15 PM
"Marty"
"So now a bunch of senior citizens are tripping up Democrats at Towm Hall meetings,"

Rank speculation coupled with outright exaggeration.

Besides this is happening at GOP townhalls where grassroots opposition are shouting down GOP reps as well. Does that "warm your heart" and is that how you want us to behave?

I guess you only get your news from here?

Why don't YOU read the bill if you are so concerned?
Exeye writes: Friday, August, 07, 2009 4:09 PM
Good
Then those Redumblicans will join the vast majority of Dumbocrats voted out in 2010. Can you say, "400 seated conservatives?" Wonder how long it'll take 'em to role back ObambiCare, cap and trade, the stimulus? A week?
SJA writes: Friday, August, 07, 2009 4:08 PM
Val
Yes threatening the elderly is something that you libs are fine with. You are despicable to say the least. Fortunately the real Americans are fighting back. Will be nice to see you crawl back under your rock once this is settled. As I said funny how afraid you are to debate something here.
Marty writes: Friday, August, 07, 2009 4:08 PM
Val: explain what's in the (5) bills
So far, there are five healthcare reform bills on the table and nobody knows what's in them.

Democrats and the press don't know what's in the bills.

Moreover, Obama doesn't know what's in the bills either.

So now a bunch of senior citizens are tripping up Democrats at Towm Hall meetings, which I find to be heartwarming.
Val writes: Friday, August, 07, 2009 4:00 PM
RE: diane
"Certain repressed losers are overreacting."

Ah the sheer arrogance of quoting oneself-too bad in this case its so appropriate.
SJA writes: Friday, August, 07, 2009 3:55 PM
The elderly
From what I have seen these town halls have been filled with elderly participants. I can't imagine turning these union thugs loose on the retired people. It will scare the heck out of them. Nice job Obama you can beat up all the old people on the block. You got to be proud.
douglas writes: Friday, August, 07, 2009 3:49 PM
Welcome to the
Un-United States Of Democrates, and Obama the supreme leader , Are we happy we elected them NOW.
Val writes: Friday, August, 07, 2009 3:36 PM
brought to you by the word of the day
"thuggery."

Yes what a salacious little tale of racism, police brutality, and free speech. Takes me back to 1964. I recall conservative thinking the world was going to end back then. Funny how the same old rhetoric gets recycled.

Certain repressed losers are overreacting. Where was all this verbosity when Obama was saying he wanted to end the war? If you think you're going to win the health care "debate" by kicking your feet and bawling like and infant then you are going to be in for a big surprise. If the currrent trend continues they will shut the townhalls down.

Besides the real story here is being reported by the politico.com and they are saying that the Healthcare bill will pass with numbers akin to the Sotomayor vote-there will defineyly be some GOP defectors that will offset the blue dogs if they buck.
Marty writes: Friday, August, 07, 2009 3:32 PM
Union members in Tampa, Florida
Yesterday the Huffington Post published an article which basically said union members (Obama supporters) were going to start showing up at Town Hall meetings to shut down the crowds.

A few hours later, the HP published an article along with YouTube video's about a Town Hall meeting in Tampa, Florida. It was a bunch of senior citizens who supposedly were causing a riot.

But then the first article detailing the union members plans was removed from the HP website. I wasn't the only person who noticed that it was missing.




Cicero writes: Friday, August, 07, 2009 3:24 PM
If they're sending forth the union thugs
All the more reason for a lot more of us men to start showing up. Who's with me?
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