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Monday, February 18, 2008
McCain's Bookshelf And A President Day's Thought
Posted by: Hugh Hewitt at 9:05 AM
Ryan Lizza has a detailed profile of the resurgent McCain in The New Yorker, (HT: PrimeTimePolitics), including a glimpse at his reading habits that ought to encourage every conservative (and push a few more into open and sustained support of the campaign to keep the conduct of the war in serious hands):



One day on the Straight Talk, McCain discussed what he was reading. It is safe to say that Gingrich, Norquist, Gerson, and Frum were not on his nightstand; McCain is almost always looking at military histories or political biographies. In the 2000 campaign, he seemed to be reading a lot about Theodore Roosevelt, and he frequently worked T.R. anecdotes into his conversations. These days, he often cites William Manchester, a former marine and a Second World War veteran, who has written biographies of Winston Churchill and General Douglas MacArthur. When a reporter asked McCain what would happen if he lost the Florida primary, he went off on a Manchester tangent. “The first thing is that Schmidt would be court-martialled,” he said. “And although we abandoned flogging as a tradition in the British Navy we would reinstate flogging, and he would be tied to the yardarm and flogged.” Schmidt did not look up from his BlackBerry. McCain continued, “Did you ever hear the story about Winston Churchill when he became the first Lord of the Admiralty and did away with all the old British naval regulations which had been in effect since Lord Nelson, including flogging, which was still in the naval regulations of the British Royal Navy? He was at a reception—like all Churchill stories, this may or may not be true—and a retired British admiral came up to him and said, ‘Sir Winston, you have destroyed British naval traditions.’ And Churchill said, ‘Sir, the British Royal Navy only has three traditions: rum, sodomy, and the lash.’ I think it’s in Manchester’s book, ‘The Last Lion.’ ”

Recently, McCain said, he had read “The Coldest Winter,” David Halberstam’s account of the Korean War and its era. “I strongly recommend it,” he told the reporters. “It’s beautifully done. It’s not just about the war, but it’s a very good description, whether you agree with it or not, of the political climate at that time—the split in the Republican Party between the Taft wing”—Senator Robert Taft, of Ohio—“and the Eisenhower wing, and Harry Truman’s incredible relationship with MacArthur.” He added, “At least half the book is about the political situation in the United States during that period—the isolationism, who lost China, the whole political dynamic. That’s what I think makes it well worth reading.”



John McCain has been preparing his whole life to be Commander-in-Chief in wartime, and his reading continues to be the sort one expects of a C-in-C in waiting.  I don't think any serious conservative can compare Senator McCain to either Senator Clinton or Senator Barack and say the war would be in better hands with either of the Democrats.  In fact, any supporter of victory has to shudder at the prospect of turning the American military over to either of those two as this conflict rages.

I am replaying my President's Day show today, an extended interview with Richard Norton Smith where we march through all 43 of the presidents (some get a lot more time than others.)  I hope you listen throughout with the choice ahead of the country fixed firmly in your mind.  The conservatives who wanted someone else have to get over it, quickly.  This isn't 1992 or 1996 (and 1992 and 1996 weren't really the time of peace they appeared to be.)

The U.S. isn't guaranteed the ability to recover from four years of disasters in the war.  The war's got to be conducted by a president committed to victory, and that means supporting McCain.  Now.





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McTex writes: Wednesday, February, 20, 2008 11:33 PM
Clarity

"Or is that a little testiness I note there?"

Well duh...

Nothing will make a Dallasite more testy than comparing him to someone from Ft. Worth!

And my CAPS are bigger - I use a Texas Instrument's key board.

Yeah, yeah... I know.



clarityseeker writes: Tuesday, February, 19, 2008 11:52 PM
DALLAS!
DO y'all scream it while referencing it?
Or is that a little testiness I note there?

It does sound even BIGGER------DALLAS-----when using caps, nice touch----I know everything is BIGGER there. Hey, I think your caps are even bigger than mine---whassup wit dat?

So that's why they kicked you outta DALLAS. You refused to wear the uniform. Got it ;)
clarityseeker writes: Tuesday, February, 19, 2008 11:47 PM
McTex
9:25 PM post is less of a lazy attempt vis a vis yesterday's effort.

You did'nt hit the mark though---and, that twang when you say, dude, dudette, it don't cut it.

Sorry padner, it aint close.
McTex writes: Tuesday, February, 19, 2008 9:36 PM
Clarity
"I got a good vision of that---oh yeah, and rhinestones I'm guessing? And some belt buckle that belongs on the hood of a Mack truck. 'Bout completes the ensemble. 'cept for those nasty pointed shoes y'all wear. Yeah, those scream comfort."

Okay get one thing straight! I am from Dallas. Not Fort Worth. Not Big Springs. Not Midland. Not Abeline. Not Waco.

DALLAS!

One of the fashion capitals of the world as is your hometown boyo.

I do not wear big belts, boots, or rhinestones.

lol smooch
McTex writes: Tuesday, February, 19, 2008 9:25 PM
Clarity

Okay preacher man - maybe I should run my posts by you first and get your appoval? Geez you yankees sure love your condescension.

Tell ya what, I'll start takin your advice after you win a debate or have the courage to argue on principle against one of your dudes or dudettes.

Until then I will continue educatin you on what it means to be a man!

How was that for sarcasm? Better?


mrclark writes: Tuesday, February, 19, 2008 4:18 PM
SEEHAWK...
I've got my water wings...man...do people have a short friggin memory or WHAT??

(Forward 12 Months) President John McCain will today sign a bill that will give sweeping amnest...er...will give sweeping legal-status *ahem* to all er...un-documented alie...er...immigrants.

He will appear in a signing ceremony with Sen Ted Kennedy, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid who said this morning: "Thanks to President McCain, who reached out to us on some 'tough compromises' **wink**wink**, we can get these people legalized now.."

HOW DOES ANYONE NOT THINK THIS WILL HAPPEN??
Virginia Patriot writes: Tuesday, February, 19, 2008 3:36 PM
SEEHAWK
I know how to swim, thanks.
SEEHAWK writes: Tuesday, February, 19, 2008 3:13 PM
mrclark/VaPa
You have one lifeline (McCain) left and you guys are letting it pass by. I will grab on and pray......because I still believe in miracles...but in case one does not come....hope you and other stubbornists are ready to drown.
CabalMember writes: Tuesday, February, 19, 2008 10:45 AM
Clarity,the Obama rally 'drill' is great
He's now tossing water bottles to the vapors laden youthies! Boy, we haven't seen the likes of him since, who, Justin Timberlake? Can anyone seriously imagine this entirely empty suit as Commander in Chief of America's incredible armed forces?????????
Virginia Patriot writes: Tuesday, February, 19, 2008 10:28 AM
The RNC and The Cheap Labor Express

Hillary is still singing the "Comprehensive Immigration Reform" tune (all the Dems, really), not realizing it could be her swan song.

The only issue I have ever seen 75-80% of Americans agree on is stopping illegal aliens. Any GOP candidate that is credible on this issue could win in a landslide.

The biggest problem is the RNC has sold it's soul to the cheap labor express. They are determined to nominate an amnesty candidate, even if it means losing the election. Stupid Party, indeed.
Virginia Patriot writes: Tuesday, February, 19, 2008 10:25 AM
No Border Security/No National Security

You simply CANNOT have national security if you will not defend your own borders or enforce your own laws. Foreign nationals numbering in the thousands are entering our country at will daily. John McCain has done and will do NOTHING to stop it. Don't believe me? Ask Juan Hernandez!
Magic Kingdom  writes: Tuesday, February, 19, 2008 10:16 AM
Think the GOP can win in Nov.?
Sorry folks, but with the fluke nonimation of John McCain in the bag, the Dems are going to roll up an easy win.

I hate the socialist libs more than anyone. This is why I, along with Hugh and others tried to warn you idiot McCain voters to not push this guy.

The base simply is not energized for a liberal Republican. Who would want a lib GOP nominee in the first place? Other libs and confused moderates who got to vote in the early primaries... that is who. Screw them...
mrclark writes: Tuesday, February, 19, 2008 10:16 AM
Seehawk...with all due respect...
What do you think McCain is going to do? Kick them out??

McCain and Kennedy co-authored a bill to give them amnesty. Yeah, Yeah, Yeah..."IT'S NOT AMNESTY1!!"

If you believe how their trying to redefine the word 'amnesty', I've got a bridge in Chicago I can sell you. John McCain isn't our 'Obi Wan Kenobi', he isn't out only hope. What is our only hope is stacking the deck against RINOS and LEFTISTS who want to sell our homeland so they can keep getting elected. We need leaders with a friggin spine and the will to protect our sovereignty.

Juan McCain is just like the rest....tell ya what you want to hear and then bam! Shut the door in your face.
Virginia Patriot writes: Tuesday, February, 19, 2008 9:40 AM
SEEHAWK
McCain will do the same. It's already over. Adios.
SEEHAWK writes: Tuesday, February, 19, 2008 9:23 AM
Conservatives
If Hill or Obama get the CIC they will give blanket amnesty to all illegals here (40 million by the number of bogus SS numbers now being used) With that 40 million will come another 120 million of their family members. The end of the Republican Party and the end of the Republic is therefore assured. Conservatives will never ever have any ability to govern again.To use past examples in our history is ridiculous.
It is win this one or adios amigos!
(Social Security official on S-span gave that statistic)
allan writes: Tuesday, February, 19, 2008 2:16 AM
Is this all there is anymore?
"Change has got to be conducted by a president committed to hope, and that means supporting Obama. Now."

"The war's got to be conducted by a president committed to victory, and that means supporting McCain. Now."

What have we come to in the United States?

A choice between mindless platitudes.

Change and hope! La, la, la!

Victory! Sis, boom, bah!

Good Lord.

mrclark writes: Tuesday, February, 19, 2008 1:53 AM
McAmnesty for McAmigos
I haven't seen on iota of proof to refute McCain's own agenda.

All Republicans who are standing around the bonfire of reconciliation need to understand one thing.

--You should have thought about the negative baggage McCain is carrying around before essentially nominating him.

...conservatives won't be voting for him...I'll vote a write-in candidate.
MaryStella writes: Tuesday, February, 19, 2008 1:40 AM
Humblywise, America should come first
Quite respectfully, if you ask any general, any respectful soldier, in the middle of a war, to quit, and say it is better to accept a loss and stop fighting, is not logical. Sir, we are fighting world wide war on terrorism, this fight can not just stop and start another day.
Democrats are not mentally, capable fighting for America's survival worldwide.
We are Americans first, and next election America and American interest should win, for the sake of our security, and the world peace, and stability in the middle east, we need the Republican Party President in the White House, and if the nominee is Senator McCain, then he must have the support of his party.
I am sure there will be few heartbreaks, especially on immigration! This will happen, one way or another, maybe under Republicans, will follow, or enforce strict standards!
Just pray, the Democrats do not win in 08. We can not afford to wait till 2012, by then we will be in great peril. Too late to make things right. History will be not on our side!
corevoice writes: Tuesday, February, 19, 2008 1:10 AM
DEMOCRACY !!!
Every endorsement further enrages my feeling that “they” (The Establishment) are trying to make my mind up for me…

Support DEMOCRACY…

http://www.petitiononline.com/jkb1961/petition.html

Whether you support McCain or not there should still be a debate if nothing else for the sake of reconciliation. North Carolina has not even held their primary yet and they are telling us it’s over? We have no voice? TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION IS GROUNDS FOR REVOLT AS I RECALL…

This whole process has been hijacked from the start.

IT’S NOT OVER IF IT’s BROKERED !!!
Humblywise writes: Tuesday, February, 19, 2008 12:12 AM
To win the war some battles must be lost
If these are the best arguments for McCain (that he read about bygone wars) his run for POTUS is already lost. And a vote for a DEM is really may be better than for Mac.

Yes, history is extremely important, but we are in a new era of war (this aint no war where Mr. Mac will have delusions of going to Cuba with trumpet in hand leading a horse cavalry up a hill. TR he's not - TR knew what side he was on.) This war will take more intelligence and leadership than Mac has demonstrated. This war against fanatical Islamists is not a single battlefield or even contained regionally to the middle east. It is economic, psychological, sociological and physcical warfare. Yes, Mac has shown he knows somewhat about the physical side, but little about the other tactics. In these times, a field commander with little non-military command experience is the wrong person to be the Chief executive of the government.

So why would the Dems be better? Shock treatment.

With Mac, all you get is the heat turning up on the proverbial pot of frogs. Which, in the long run, means all will be lost. With the DEMS in charge, at least the shock value may awaken the sleeping giant when they demonstrate what "change" really means.

It's rare to win every battle in a war, and, in some cases, battles must be lost to ultimately win the war. - An even more ignorant notion is that we should elect Mac and then we'll rally around a conservative in 2012. Any notion of Reaganism will be dead. If McCain wins POTUS, the conservatives will be evermore marginalized in the party and their war may be over.
clarityseeker writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 11:32 PM
The Obama Loop
re: The Obama "Loop"


yeah this guy is all about substance.
There are now 8 (and counting) recordings of separate public speeches he has made, with the same story line:
1.) a girl in front row faints
2.) Obama stops his speech, shows compassion for the flagged feline.
3.) He tosses his "holy" water bottle to someone near the powerless girl in attempt to hydrate her back to life
4.) immediately upon step #3, he declares with similar medical diagnosis, "She's okay, she'll be fine". Crowd cheers, on to the next show.
5.) Lather, rinse and repeat liberally steps #1 thru #4.

The Obama Loop

clarityseeker writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 11:09 PM
McTex
"I for one will not sit quietly as your give us facts. I demand that you pepper your comments with how you feel and not what is the actual truth. I should not have to think for myself about McCain. I have people to tell me what to think and the last thing I need is for you to come here and upset my intellectual laziness and status quo."

You should really stick to that syruppy southern twangy drawl thing. You stink at sarcasm---it would be like me wearing your fringy-crap on my sleeves, with rhinestones and pointy shoes, and a Texas-sized hooker hangin' on each arm---I'd be as outta place as a ferret in a furrier shop.
And you? 'nuff said
clarityseeker writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 11:03 PM
McTex
New Yorkers do not swagger.
However, they do incessantly irritate with their need to out-sophisticate others around them. They are needy little people. They don't drive so they rely on others; taxis, subways, trains, busses, etc. They need just the right bagel from just the right bagel shoppe. Dinner is an endless quandary of what to have where to have it, and who the hell is going to entertain them afterwards. The arrogant love of the Yankees and George Steinbrenner. That nasal accent is about enough to gag you with (does not hold a candle to that 'twangy-thing you got goin' there) a Rockette-girl hamstring. Did I mention that more than half of Manhattan is in therapy? What the hell is up with that?
I could go on, but it would only give you ammunition---being a Cowboys fan, you're really not worthy. What a whiny bunch of lone-star losers you root for there. Was that Terrell Owens cryin" on my 9 foot theater screen? He just about flooded the whole damned floor. It's a good thing I have terraced seating---the back row stayed dry. And Jerry Jones? Pathetic excuse for a man.
Fringe on your sleeves and puce-----yep, I got a good vision of that---oh yeah, and rhinestones I'm guessing? And some belt buckle that belongs on the hood of a Mack truck. 'Bout completes the ensemble. 'cept for those nasty pointed shoes y'all wear. Yeah, those scream comfort.
McTex writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 11:01 PM
kcomst

How dare you come to this board with your logic and common sense. Who the hell do you think you are telling us we should actually examine his record???

I for one will not sit quietly as your give us facts. I demand that you pepper your comments with how you feel and not what is the actual truth. I should not have to think for myself about McCain. I have people to tell me what to think and the last thing I need is for you to come here and upset my intellectual laziness and status quo.
k123 writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 10:55 PM
McCain: honor, courage and commitment
John McCain has a consistent record of voting against tax increases over his 24 year record. He is a man of his word and will keep his word. Remember that he voted against the tax increase of Bush 41. Perhaps if those so darn opposed to him examined his entire life record, you could post marginally informative comments. Moreover, last time I looked it was called the republican "big tent" party. Simply put, there is more to the party than just conservatives. Once upon a time, the party actually ran candidates who could win in blue states as well as red states. To all of those dissapointed conservatives, consider the alternatives: Obama or Hillary. Consider the man whose fortitude actually helped changed the state of the war. Consider that since the Dems are likely to keep the house and senate, that divided government is the best alternative at this point. How you haters of McCain, who is now the likely nominee can rationalize voting against a man of 50 years of service to his country is amazing, when compared to the alternatives.
McTex writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 10:41 PM
Jim C

Jim I love Romney supporters. They are now passing the collection plate to raise money for McCain. And I never called Huckabee supporters mentally challenged. I said that Huckabee was being cruel to those of his supporters who are mentally-challenged by giving them false hope. The vast majority of Huckabee supporters, all good Republicans, know that it is over and are happy to support McCain, just like their candidate.

Jim I find you assertion that you are a conservative and not a RINO laughable. You whine and moan because the one Republican who doesn’t share your hatred of Mexicans was elected by the majority of the Republican Party. It’s sour grapes at its worst.

Why do I find it so hard to believe that you are standing on principle? Because when I ask people like you and Neoscum to outline that principle you mumble on how you don’t have to defend yourself to the likes of me, or that you just know a RINO when you see one or that Rush Limbaugh told you McCain is a RINO and Rush is always right.

If that’s what you call principle then you are absolutely correct. I hope I do drive you from the Party!

Adios. Don’t let the door hit you on your bum. Say hi to Pat Buchanan and Ross Perot for me.

Hey Neo - Texans are a hell of a lot better drivers than you Calinuts. At least we know that the left lane is for passing ONLY! And it doesn't take us 2 hours to drive to work. It only take an hour and 40 minutes!!!
McTex writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 10:05 PM
Clarity

Touché. I must say the only Americans that I have found who can out swagger a Texan is a New Yorker.

1. The Republic will rise again
2. Cowboys rule! Go America’s team.(if you bring up the playoffs I will be reduced to screaming shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up in my best Neo impersonation)
3. Maybe but how can you beat the Chainsaw Massacre?
4. Houston is a hell-hole
5. Should I sell my Arbusto stocks?
6. Don’t go there!

Do you have anything in puce?
Emirates Flyboy writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 10:01 PM
Dan
No.3 bothers me - it seems to exclude lots of people, at least the way I am reading it. Families just aren't that way anymore.
NeoConScum writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 10:00 PM
Thank You MaryS !
As 'Hawk would say: You are a Rare Gem.
rae22 writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 9:32 PM
at least hugh is hot!
Hugh is doing what he has to do to keep the sountry fighting terrorism - which is the most important issue right now!
clarityseeker writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 9:13 PM
Neo
I would not waste the time sayin' it if it were not true--and 90% of the time I happen upon a Texas-plated vehicle, it either wants the entire road, is driving at breakneck speed, or, cutting me off. It is uncanny. It surpasses coincidence.

Besides, you know my previous comments about McTex. At the core, he provokes thought. It's just those edges, with all of that dangly-leather crap-fringe you see on Western clothing:
Irritating.
Hugely excessive.
"Look-at-me" window-dressing.

I'm reminded of that Russian comedian, Yakhov Smirnoff, who said:
America...........what a country!!!
MaryStella writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 9:10 PM
NEO,
GOD is love, and all that He has created is good, and holy , when He was done Creating, God Said, It was good.
Therefore, all you friends and visitors of this blog, are His Creation and a world of appreciation and goodness.
God Bless, you all, Neo, Seehawk, Clarity, Paddy,
Cotton, Hugh, McTex.......all, we are God's children, sometimes we have to be corrected.
And that is when, maybe, we need SEEHAWK's, advice and prayers, There will be time, our actions will require correction and justice, and that's when, prayers may be helpful. God always honors our prayers.
" He who abides in Me, I Abide in him," since apart of Him we can do nothing.
PC writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 8:53 PM
I don't see how it helps to ignore
what we know about McCain. People talk about holding his feet to the fire, making him pledge certain things and such. But we know very well that McCain will not be forced or even persuaded to do anything to appease conservatives. He's shown he has NO desire to do so.

He will sign an amnesty law, he MAY build a fence, he wants globaloney taxes, he opposed tax cuts with hate-the-rich rhetoric, he knows nothing about the economy, he is more loyal to dems than repubs, he instigated gang of 14, he says Alito was too consevative. Will he really nominate people who are likely to overturn the laws he passionately fought for?

We should not expect anything to change if McCain is president. (The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior.) He will sell out conservatives any darn time he feels like it.

We can hope that he won't close Gitmo and bring terrorists to our courts, and that he will be strong in the WOT. Strength in the WOT may be all we're gonna get out of him.

I completely understand those who think we're better off with a dem in the White House to motivate our guys in congress to fight for conservative ideals. With McCain they will be forced to go along with whatever liberal goals he has, which will hurt the GOP. The question is whether we are going to be short run or long run voters.

For me, it may come down to voting to give our troops the best CIC possible, and that is certainly not Hillary or Obama.
Jim writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 8:39 PM
Hey McTex
You know, your constant bad mouthing of Romney supporters, calling Huckabee supporters mentally challenged, and behaving like a general all around troll isn't doing your candidate John McCain any favors amoung us conservatives.

Furthermore, I find your assertion that those of us who have serious reservations about supporting John "RINO" McCain are liberals who vote on emotion ridiculous. Why is it so hard to understand that many of us are standing on principle? Why is it so hard for you to believe that by not supporting a candidate who has never been conservative and has slapped conservatives in the face repeatedly we believe we are standing up for what we believe in?

Jim C
NeoConScum writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 7:58 PM
Paddy, 'Hawk...
Youse twoooooooo Kids. The Cabal loves you both. MaryStella, tell'um to chill in that MaryStella way. There.

'Hawk, Clarity, Paddy, MaryS, OHM, Cotton..Ol'Neo is a blessed man to have you knuckleheads as friends gained and highly valued this past less-than-a-year.
NeoConScum writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 7:51 PM
Clarity...Funny, Unlike You, Apparently,
I've had great experiences with folks from that state, including a girlfriend in the 80's who was a true bundle of nerve, guts and integrity. She also luved her Daddy (pronounced Day-Dee)and drove at terrifying speeds. I LITERALLY owe her my life. I spent alot of back & forth time in Dallas & close-by cities for 2-years in the mid-90's on a successful series. Never had a bad experience except with our pseudo tough-guy star and he was a Hollywooder, not Texan.

So, from the start of his windy horses*** last month, I had in the headlamps of contempt. Still there, but I'm all through getting pulled into it. Needy maw. It only infests more with rebuke. Sad pathology, but not worth the spit Lucky Strike.

Enough said.
paddy o'furniture writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 7:31 PM
Seehawk
OK....I'll just drop it. I would not want a misunderstanding to come between us, and you certainly deserve no slaps. I just don't want to see you short-changed, that's all...
If you try to think about what I said in the spirit in which I intended, perhaps you'll understand.
Even so, please don't hesitate to talk about your expolits on my account...it can only do good here.
Dan in SC writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 7:21 PM
Emirates Flyboy writes...
"... like the Constitution Party. Go read its web site if you want to know the type of anti-McCain people who inhabit this board. It truly is an eye opener."

As far as I can tell, the Constitution party's main mission is to preserve the Constitution the way our founding fathers intended it. What is wrong with that?

Here's my take on their party, they seem to be in-line with Ron Paul's platform, and while I'm not Ron Paul fan, I'd gladly vote for him over McCain!!!

Anyone that would like to check out the platform for them selves can go here:

http://www.constitutionparty.com/party_platform.php
SEEHAWK writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 7:14 PM
Paddy
I gave concrete examples of why I do not consider myself afraid of the enemy whether he is in a Jihadist's body, an angry unbeliever, or a Communist's body.
I was not looking for kudos from others on this board for the opportunities I've had on mission with God.If you had been in missions as long as I have you know you get more "leper" treatment than love or admiration.
I felt you gave me a slap but if you did not intend it that way, I accept your word. The only way I get anywhere, including out of the bed everyday,is by God's grace.
scottpark writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 6:54 PM
Stop McCain
Unpleasant scenario: McCain as President will ram through amnesty with compliant Republican Senators reluctant to filibuster their new President. That will "normalize" 20 million Mexicans, who will become Dem voters, as will their 50 million children. Result: They'll be hunting conservatives with dogs in this country by 2020.

Sensible alternative: Vote for Barack, who will try to push through amnesty, but will be filibusterd cross-eyed by the Republican Senate.
Emirates Flyboy writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 6:51 PM
The fringe on this board...
has two issues: extreme anti-Hispanic (particularly Mexican) animus combined with a "take my marbles and leave" attitude that most wouldn't accept in their own children.

They claim to know what's best for the country, and like the Constitution Party. Go read its web site if you want to know the type of anti-McCain people who inhabit this board. It truly is an eye opener.

They claim their immigration stance is really "national security" based, yet they are unable to intelligently discuss any of the true national security issues such as they set forth by Hewitt today. The "threat" they perceive is not from the Jihadists who openly want to kill us, but from Mexicans and those who do not live in the same way they do.

It is a waste to argue with them about McCain. I think someone called them armchair generals earlier today. That is an insult to our flag officers through the years. These guys know nothing about the national security, and arguing with them is a waste of time.

And for the cretin who suggested reading about Korea is a waste of time: maybe you should read a book sometime that isn't written by Ann Coulter. Officers learn how to fight future wars by learning and reading about past conflicts.
paddy o'furniture writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 6:33 PM
Seehawk
What I said was not intended to be "low." I think you misunderstood it to be a personal criticism.
Who am I to criticize? I am nobody to be sure....
You deserve a glorious reward from the Lord (in my opinion).
I was merely suggesting that if your fellow bloggers say "great job," that may be all you get...
You don't want a pat on the back from us (however much we may think you deserve it). You want it from your Savior...
bigkam writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 6:31 PM
Re: Virginia Patriot
I understand your worries about border security, I share them. McCain has promised to secure our borders and put more money into border patrol and new forms of protection. Do you think the Democrats would do any of that? They don't even talk about it. I honestly think your hatred on this one would be much better if it were used against Hillary and Obama, who are part of the contingent who continually shoot down border protection money in Congress.

Equally as important is how we engage our enemies overseas, and I think you will agree with me that the Dems are clueless in this area, and that John McCain is the most qualified to handle this challenge. Our safety depends upon these areas as well.
clarityseeker writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 6:29 PM
McTex
The fact that you're wrong, and also the emotional finger-wagging at NeoCon, simply exhibits that B-I-G S-T-A-T-E O-F T-E-X-A-S attitude you carry. Seen it before.
Seriously.
McTex,
1.) the monumental efforts of Texas to create a country unto itself failed. You continue to act as if it succeeded.
2.) The scam perpetrated by your home state to label the Cowboys as, "America's Team", is a fantasy existing only in your head.
3.) GIANT was just a movie. Rock Hudson, Jimmy Dean, and Elizabeth Taylor, they were mere actors.
4.) Houston is a hell-hole.
5.) Oil is simply a commodity--albeit the #1 commodity in the world. It remains a no-added-value commodity.
6.) The Alamo? Way over rated.
I could go on, I'll spare you.
Please, come down to earth and get off the Straight-and-Serious-Talk-Express.
And do consider replacing that brown shirt. Here, here you can have this red one.

SEEHAWK writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 6:24 PM
MaryStella
Thanks for being a lighthouse in the the harbor. As always.;-)
Frank writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 6:23 PM
Hugh is Right
but only if you agree the war on Jihadism is the top priority. It is.

I am a "Clothespin Conservative", one who may have to hold his nose when voting but gets that the only choice is Republican or Democrat, period. Get your arms around the fact that sitting out is a defacto vote for which ever of these options you like least.

I'll not be lectured by self-proclaimed "true" conservative who isn't serious enough to excercise their franchise just because the perfect choice isn't available. It would be diferent if we weren't at war, but we are.

http://www.heartlandmurmurs.com
Dan in SC writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 6:23 PM
Conservatives Unite! Say NO to McCain!
This election conservatives need to make sure our voices are heard! Say no to amnesty, say no to global warming, say no to McCain-Feingold, say no to George Soros funding, say no to gangs of 14, say no to Keating 5, say no to votes against the Bush tax cuts. Let the GOP we reject their nominee and we will not be told what to do or "fall in line" Do not let the Republican party marginalize conservatives! Its time to draw a line in the sand and let the GOP they can't win without the base!

Keep America beautiful! Vote Conservative!!!
Craig writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 6:22 PM
I don't get it
A number of these blog postings have suggested things would not change much between if McCain is elected or if Obama/Hillary is elected.

Why do we even have these campaigns, and why is there some belief that Huck/Romney would alaso have produced any particular change.

I probabaly shouldn't even go on these blogs anymore. They are so dominated by anti-illegal immigration activists there is no room to breathe. This whole posting started with McCain's booklist and insights into his way of thinking about war and security. McCain has such clear views and philosiphy and they are so at odds with the democrats that it will produce a worthy debate in the general.

By the way, McCain was a a big supporter of renewing FISA, which both Hillary and Obama was against. Another important current issue.

This election is evey bit as much about ideas as ever. Immigration can also produce clear philosophical results. The left wing of the democratic part want complete amnesty. They think that this will help dems get elected. They should be opposed by blacks and trade unions who are getting pressured by lower wages. Why they are not shows how much the illegal bashers have made no impact on the people most effected by illegals.

A tough immigration plan can be supported by mnay democrats and turn them if we can actually talk about it without showing clear hatred for illegals in the country by demanding their immediate removal (Which will not happen). Republicans have made significant headway in the pro-life movement and other values based approaches (Hopefully vouchers as well). We can do the same with immigration if we don't lose our minds to hate and extremism.
Dread writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 6:19 PM
Brian
No, it is not, Sir.

“Verbal prayer, commitment to God and country and increasing the bonds of marriage are all essential to a civil and conservative society.”

No, prayer, commitment to God, your family, and your community, and charity are all essential to a civil society. Commitment to God involves rendering unto Caesar his due until he demands what is beyond his due.

“Yes, I do know you.”

No, you do not, and with each new post, you display your ignorance.

“I know the sniveling people who hide behind lawyers, pretend to support the troops but not the war and retreat when their anti-American rhetoric comes into question.”

I have never hidden behind anyone, and I am here to defend myself now.

As to war, you’re opening up an entirely different topic. But I would be curious to know, what concrete steps folks have taken to ‘support’ the war beyond being an arm-chair general on message boards? Unless the step involves actually putting on a uniform or spending time in Iraq trying to build a functional democracy, it seems rather half-hearted, at best.

And, of course, that leaves aside the moral question of whether or not you would blindly support a war the United States was involved in that did not meet just war criteria.

“Your Pledge discourse is akin to burning and defecating on the flag because you disagree with an action or direction the leaders of our country have taken. It's a typical cowardly response.”

No, I do not recite the pledge for the reasons I stated, starting with the fact that I have said I will be loyal and render under to Caesar his due and defend my country against aggressors if need be, and I see little reason to bow to the demands of the crowd that I repeat this oath time and time again as they demand it. I have given my word, and frankly, you are wrong to demand constant genuflecting.
McTex writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 6:18 PM
MaryStella

Very well said.

I sense prescience in your comment "We are at the threshold of history, every little error has grave consequences."
SEEHAWK writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 6:17 PM
GregB
If I thought McCain woould not appoint judges to the Supreme Court I agree with I would "draw a line in the sand"If I thought McCain would retreat in Iraq I would "draw a line in the sand"
If I thought McCain would expand the federal government through higher spending and raising taxes I would "draw a line in the sand"
I do not know if he will really build the fence before proceeding on immagration reform. All I have is his word on it. I know the Dems will not build the fence and will give blanket amnesty for all illegals here and their families to come. They will appoint judges that will continue to slaughter the unborn, and they will retreat in the face of the enemy. Your sand line is just in a different place than mine.
Dstuffle writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 6:12 PM
Reading about the wrong war
While I am happy to hear that Sen. McCain is reading books that may help with the job of POTUS, I think he's commiting the usual millitary mistake. Fighting the last war.

Oh wait, he's not reading about the last war, he's reading about the two wars before that.

Honestly, I'd fill much better if he'd read the looming tower, Nuclear Jihadist, Chechen Jihad, FDR's Folley, The Forgotten Man, Basic Economics (by Tom Sowell), Legacy of Ashes, or at bear min America Alone.

The current war is intel, economics, demographics, not wholly tanks, planes, ships, and infantry like WWII and Korea were.

Sen. McCain you have 9 months to show me you get it. Get Hot!
richard_223 writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 6:12 PM
Another Crush for HH!
Uh, wasn't McCain the antichrist on this blog all of two weeks ago?
SEEHAWK writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 6:11 PM
Paddy
And Paul wrote the Epistles to brag about himself? The Acts were what the acts of the apostles....but i can't tell,okay got it..I get to meet my Savior and the saved around the throne,Paddy and that is good enoughreward for me.
McTex writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 6:09 PM
NeoScum

Why would I want you to be nice to me?

I have made the argument, for all to read, that you are a phony. That you claim to be a conservative but in truth you are a liberal - an emotion-based sophistic irrational liberal who is too stupid to realize it because he thinks he agrees with conservative on a handful of issues.

So every time you post you prove my point.

Mucho gracias amigo!

SMOOOOOOOOOOCH...
SEEHAWK writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 6:07 PM
Paddy
that was low.
i make it clear who i do things for here everyday.
MaryStella writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 5:48 PM
I AGREE WITH SEEHAWK
We are at the threshold of history, every little error has grave consequences. Just look at England, in ten years, most Europe will be lost to Islam, and unforturnately will be a not a secular one. This election, we can not afford to sit out. We cannot retreat on war on terrorism, again, our war in Iraq, Afghanistan, is part of our struggle, with the jihadism idealism. Sudden removal of our troops will cause such a havoc, and inbalance, thousands of innocents will be massacered, instablility in middle east will send Pakistan, India into chaos. For the Safety of America, we need a long term commitment to achieve stability in the middle east, yes even some times, Not pressuring certain governments, if they are providing us help fighting the terrorists.
Seehawk, is right, as a nation we have to turn to God and pray as hard as ever, throughout, history, in the Bible, God has always, when people truly turned with clean heart and prayed, protected them against their enemies.
Things are not getting better, Democrats, are not prepared to protect this nation, not now.
Obviously, Senator McCain, is the choice of the Republicans, therefore, he needs our heartfelt prayers, especially on issues you believe might help him.
Greg B, SD writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 5:43 PM
Re: SEEHAWK 5:00 PM
you wrote "panty waists who take your toys home and won't play because you didn't get your own way."

Although given many opportunities, you've failed to adequately address legitimate questions and your arguments are unconvincing. Nevertheless, here's another opportunity.

Where/when will you draw your line in the sand? Or will you ever?

Don't mock those of us not quite as willing as you to just roll over and take it.
NeoConScum writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 5:40 PM
'Hawk...You, Sister Con, Are As Many !
This is well known. I WILL NOT be nice to that nitwit who, apparently, has become obsessed with stalking Humble Neo and begging for negative approval. A wonderful Jungian archtype 'King Baby'
that the squid fits perfectly. Whoooeeeey!

I like what VirPat said here or elsewhere earlier: The List...the list...I made THE LIST!

Dreadski: Where do you work(or play, or both)that you must do that pesky ol'pledge every durn day? I've got'sta know. FOCUS: Our Pledge of Allegiance isn't to the gov't. It is to our country. Hundreds of thousands of our sacred dead have sacrificed everything for it. Again, where do you have to do all this pledging?
Synthesizer writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 5:37 PM
soulsamurai-- Hunter is pro-Huckabee
[soulsamurai on February 18, 2008 3:13 PM]"Duncan Hunter maintained his conservative credibility and my utmost respect by endorsing and supporting the only fellow conservative remaining in the race - Gov Huckabee."

23 January 2008. Hunter endorses Huckabee
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/23/hunter-endo rses-huckabee/

Huckabee & immigration
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.republicans/msg /a89f0a214fb6085f

Jackson, Gregg. 4 February 2008. "Why I'm Voting for Mike Huckabee"
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/GreggJackson/2008/02/04/ why_im_voting_for_mike_huckabee?page=full&comments=true
I have made the decision to vote for Governor Mike Huckabee on the basis of research into actual records -- rather than empty campaign double-talk. Alone among the frontrunners, his record is conservative on the most fundamental issues. I will go even further: examining _records_ proves that when $100 million dollars of GOP campaign propaganda is set aside, Mike Huckabee is the only real across-the-board (social and fiscal) conservative among the three front runners.

28 November 2007 Dick Morris
"Mike Huckabee is a fiscal conservative"
http://thehill.com/dick-morris/mike-huckabee-is-a-fiscal-co nservative-2007-11-28.html
Greg B, SD writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 5:22 PM
Re: SEEHAWK 4:56 PM
Yes, I would rather my daughter get pregnant and learn from it than to continue her promiscuous lifestyle and her downward spiral into a life filled with remorse, regrets, and low self esteem.



paddy o'furniture writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 5:10 PM
seehawk
re: To all the men here

Is that why you did all this.....for you?

What is the reward you are seeking on a blog? Remember, if you receive your reward in this life, you will have received your reward in full.

Let it go sister....and God bless....
McTex writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 5:09 PM
Neoscum
"Intellectual" and "I", as in McPoopy, in the same sentence. Okay...Clear...Clear....Clearrrrrr!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH!!

Okay, thanks."

I thought I would merely repost your comments just to prove my point.

Ouch!
SEEHAWK writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 5:05 PM
Brian
Thank you for rebuking Dread. He is over the cliff in how his beliefs translate into positive actions in life.
SEEHAWK writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 5:03 PM
Neo and friends
You play nice with McTex, now! No hitting or fussing or the momma of the group will,spank and put you all to bed;-)
SEEHAWK writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 5:00 PM
Tina
re:post 4:48pm You hit the nail with the hammer!
I like the popular song,"Big Girls Don't Cry Now" I think the girls here have more guts than these conservative guys........panty waists who take your toys home and won't playbecause you didn't get your own way.
Brianbnc writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 4:59 PM
Dread that's
garbage and you know it.

Verbal prayer, commitment to God and country and increasing the bonds of marriage are all essential to a civil and conservative society.

Your mock discourse does nothing for any of the above. Yes, I do know you. I know the sniveling people who hide behind lawyers, pretend to support the troops but not the war and retreat when their anti-American rhetoric comes into question.

Now does that insinuate being strong and stoic means toeing the line? Obviously not. It means standing for your convictions in the face of adversity (such as we are facing with a McCain nomination) and not caving to rhino pressure.

Your Pledge discourse is akin to burning and defecating on the flag because you disagree with an action or direction the leaders of our country have taken. It's a typical cowardly response. Attack that which cannot fight back. Instead of working diligently in the political arena to change the wrong, you would rather attack something inert and defenseless.

Yes, I know you, sir.

I love my country. I am proud to be a citizen of the United States of America. I do not agree with many important issues and situations we find ourselves in currently, but with my conviction, prayer and outward support of my country (even repeating the Pledge) I will prevail. I know many others here feel the same way.
Nicholas Jenkins writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 4:58 PM
Halberstam's book on Korea
I'm not reassured by McCain reading Halberstam on Korea. No doubt it's standard-fare liberalism - the mentality that cost us victory in Korea and Vietnam.

See Mark Moyar's Triumph Forsaken for the mendacious nature of Halberstam's reporting from Vietnam.

http://www.amazon.com/Triumph-Forsaken-Vietnam-War-1954-196 5/dp/0521869110/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1203371 557&sr=8-1
SEEHAWK writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 4:56 PM
Tina
Pas Phil and others will not listen to us. They define what principles must be followed by each person to be considered a true conservative. Never mind McCain has voted 90% of the time, conservitively.The mistakes he's made are big, but I don't recall any of them being the unpardonable sin.He could have strong economic advisors and Cabinet members who could make it come out pretty good for our side.Everything rests on the Supreme Court,and whether we lose our freedoms to the Ruth Ginsberg Leftists or not.
Yes,it will TEACH US to have a Dem in the White House,then we will learn our lesson!
That's akin to wanting your daughter to get pregnant so she won't have sex outside marriage again! Too much pain and loss there too.
Tazzmax writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 4:55 PM
All of you
RINO/ McCain-iacs just keep on "dreamin",...you'll all be cryin in your beer come Nov.!....Heeheehee.
NeoConScum writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 4:48 PM
McPoopy: "..have INTELLECTUALLY disputed
..a single point I have mede."

"Intellectual" and "I", as in McPoopy, in the same sentence. Okay...Clear...Clear....Clearrrrrr!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH!!

Okay, thanks.
Tina writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 4:48 PM
Conservative Canidates
...to follow up on my previous post...looking at the readings here...I dont think we as a "collective" conservative base, could even nominate a good conservative. The votes in this primary season was split between Romney and Huckabee. Both sides were equally passionate about their canidates...and neither side was willing to budge, to get behind one canidate and rally against John McCain.
And really, that is no one's fault but our own. Sometimes I think its a good thing to stop a reflect on what we want in a canidate. Personally,I think a lot of our expectations were too high this election cycle....we were all so fired up about not having McCain...but we couldnt even agree on a canidate that was acceptable, when 2 perfectly good canidates were out there.
We conservatives cant even come to a consus, there is so much infighting. So while we were bickering and splitting votes, the moderates stepped in and did what they wanted.
And it's no ones fault but ours.
SEEHAWK writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 4:47 PM
To all men here
If one more of you accuse me of being fearful, I'm going to come slap you up side the head! I have been in jungles in Panama, witnessing to a tribe that had run missionaries out 50 years ago with machetes. I have been to Peru, and sat on top of the Andes witnessing to Indians, and I do not like heights! I have been to W. Africa 8 times....walking through dirty dangerous places,talking to Muslims and giving them hope of the Gospel.I was arrested in Cuba, for distibuting medicine and clothing to people without government consent,and placed under house arrest,I have been to N. Africa and broke some Sharia law, I have a lot of flaws, guys, but fear is not one of them.
Tina writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 4:33 PM
Pas Phil
I'm going to respectfully disagree with you about John McCain....I do think life will change if a democrat is elected to the White House. The person will become the leader of the Free World, this place that is our last best hope for the world.
The US is the only country taking an aggressive stance against terrorism (okay, our GB is, too)...the rest cower in fear and hide behind their weak socialist govts.
I dont want that for my country. John McCain, for all his faults, stands behind his priciples and beliefs, sometimes at the risk of his political career. If you are a steady reader of the blogs here, and RCP, its been written about extensivly.

Really, its just a matter of preference. Do we, as conservatives, lay down and let the liberals run the White House for 4 years (when we havent even managed to repair what 8 years with Clinton did to our military, entitlement programs, larger govt), and elect a "Reagan" type conservative in 4 years--and who will that be in 4 years? Romney? Huckabee? Paul? Santorum?
Or do we elect someone who has some conservative values, who we agree with 50% of the time...and hold his feet to the fire when he strays?
The new media and grassroots last year de-railed his amnesty bill. Electing more conservatives to the house and senate would also help keep McCain in line.
My vote will be counted for McCain. He already knows most conservatives dont like him. He has no love lost for us. But the moderate wing of the party is about the only wing left. The DeLay part of the party has collapsed, along with the Rove-Bush wing of the party. Horribly so. Until that is re-built, Republicans are going to do what they have done for years: nominate and try to elect a moderate.
I can tell you, even as moderate, he has more in common with my values that the Democratic side does. To me, that counts for something.
SEEHAWK writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 4:30 PM
Pas Phil
No thanks.I trust the US Armed Forces to be working on that as we speak. My predictions in the 90's came true but yet I'm the silly one? Oh I see.....
I had an email today from a friend in a country that I will not name. Years ago,he has been kidnapped and tortured by Jihadists for his faith in Jesus. He assures me they are buying up gas stations and thousands of other businesses here in the USA to one day control the American population. They brag about this as they drill your bones with an electric drill. I am not afraid of them as you suggest,but actively go and witness to them in areas of the world you have never been to.
My alarm is that conservatives like you will allow the Jihadists to win,by allowing Clinton/Obama to be CIC. We will have to see who is right.;-)
Greg B, SD writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 4:23 PM
Re: MikeS 3:58
You should have stopped after your first sentence...it was good, everything else was garbage.

Your assertion is precisely the problem. The establishment appointed McCain, conservatives and Republicans did not vote him in.
Pasadena Phil writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 4:20 PM
MikeS
When us anti-ILLEGAL immigration folks rose to shut down Washington over the McCain-Kennedy amnesty bill, it became the most important issue for over 80% of Americans who were increasingly against amnesty. That has not changed. I don't know where you are getting your information but based your previous comments over the months, I am going to venture on doing something that I never do. I am going to call you a liar. Your last comment was so ignorant that it can only be attributed to your complete disregard for facts and truth. Even McCain would laugh at you for that lie. If your comment were true, why is McCain now so adamant in arguing for a secure border?
MikeS writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 3:58 PM
We need to understand
McCain is the nominee because of his views about immigration, not despite them. Most Republicans realize that this crazy extremist anti-immigrant talk threatened to destroy the party.

Those of you who will not vote for McCain over the issue of amnesty: please realize that you are far-right extremists, that your viewpoint blends in perfectly with the fascist and racist political parties of Europe, and that by making this choice, you have determined that your vote and opinion are essentially irrelevant. At any time you decide to return from the fantasy world you live in, you are welcome to do so.
McTex writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 3:46 PM
Neoscum

"For any of the uninitiated: It's an honor to be labeled a Liberal OR a Fascist by the ineffable McPoopy(Paddy's spot-on term for ol'Tex). Really gets his diapers in a twist, doesn't he."

I'm sorry to disappoint you but I actually take your third person cowardly attacks as a badge of honor. It's obvious I got under your skin. Good. Mission acomplished boyo.

As of yet not one of you liberalcons have intellectually disputed a SINGLE point I have made which explains your obvious comfort with the personal name calling.

But hey what should I expect from a liberal?

Still hitting you were it hurts!
Pasadena Phil writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 3:40 PM
Justamere10
Like it or not, John McCain is the man Republicans and others are choosing to work with. Conservatives are not a subset of the Republican Party. You RINOs and Democrats nominated this guy, now it's up to you to get him elected. We conservatives aren't interested in riding the Straight Talk bus over the cliff. We are going to celebrate in November watching both wings of the United Establishment Party agonizing over either a devastating defeat or empty victory. Conservatives are winning because we are the ones who have principled ideas and we stick to our convictions. This is going to be a very, very long year for RINOs.
Dread writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 3:39 PM
Brian
"If you were married (which I seriously doubt) would you look upon your vows in the same manner?"

My vows are sacred, Brian. A solemn promise that guides my actions and defines a part of who I am. They were said once.

I am not in the habit of repeating them aloud every morning, nor is my wife insecure or capricious enough to demand said veneration. I am sorry if yours is.

As to my character, you do not know me, sir. But I say that any man who is not willing to even concede the idea of standing even against his own government, if need be, in defense of the principles of liberty, is not a man of character. He is a slave.

Justamere10 writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 3:30 PM
Uniting the GOP
Like it or not John McCain is the man conservatives must work with this season. Showing support for anyone else is a boost for Hillary or Obama, high taxes, and a weak commander-in-chief in a time of war.

A McCain/Romney ticket would appease the talk show hosts, unite the GOP, and win the election in November.

http://mittromney.townhall.com/
soulsamurai writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 3:29 PM
Here's another problem:
2.) McCain has made his reputation & his success in large part by NOT LISTENING to conservative advice & in fact, giving conservatives the finger while he writes up legislation not with moderate Democrats, but the most liberal ones! And he does not get his liberal friends to reciprocate with their support on conservative legislation either. How does that make him honorable? For all his reading of military history that is not good strategy, it's not even effectively "working together", it is being played by your opponents. With his history of poor judgement what makes you think that he'll listen to conservative advice or advisors? Once he has the nomination why would he listen? With all his self-study of Churchill and MacArthur & fantasies of being Commander-in-Chief, what makes you think he'll even listen to the generals or the Joint Chiefs of Staff when he's in the Oval Office?

Leadership is not a position of authority - it's a choice. It's putting your character into motion by making courageous & tough decisions between what's right & wrong. It's making those decisions according to principles & core values rather than for compromise or expediency. Sen McCain has not exhibited a consistent set of core values or principles outside of his own instincts for self-preservation. God help us if we continue to abandon our principles for the sake of a "safe position" of unity, & he becomes the nominee. It will be because MANY REASONABLE PEOPLE failed to lead (or at least to reason & follow conservative leaders) and instead they followed & echoed the ones with the most money, or the most moderate records, or the most favorable media attention, or the most delegates, or what have you - but they did not chose according to principle & they certainly did not lead.

Brianbnc writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 3:17 PM
Dread Head
Like so many things of in life, the Pledge is what you make of it... which says volumes about your lack of character and disloyalty.

If you were married (which I seriously doubt) would you look upon your vows in the same manner? Just empty words never worth reapeating because they demean the value? Good luck with that... At least you can keep the porn industry "pumping".

The words have meaning, each and every time they are uttered. Just like daily prayer, telling your family you love them and saying out loud "I support the war on terror and our troops" matter and have immense meaning.
soulsamurai writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 3:13 PM
SEEHAWK,
You sound very much like a reasonable person. I don't doubt your faith, your prayers or your honorable intentions. I too pray for our leaders and their advisors - if Sen McCain wins the nomination then he will certainly have my prayers, I will have to decide whether or not to support him - but given the alternatives it will be difficult if not impossible not to.

Here's the problem:

1.) The nomination is not locked up or decided yet. The alternatives for conservatives are not between McCain & the Democrats at this point, because McCain is not the nominee yet. Someone wrote that they respected HH because he quickly jumped on board the McCain bandwagon presumably for the good of the party. Although I'd already lost respect for Hugh because of THE WAY THAT HE SUPPORTED Romney, now he's lost all respect and credibility because while he championed Romney as a principled conservative and railed against McCain for being a liberal - they have both opted to support the remaining liberal rather than the remaining conservative. Showing themselves to be totally unprincipled, completely lacking in integrity and all about expediency. I always thought Romney was a moderate, and not too far from Giuliani. They both talked a conservative game, they talked conservative principles, yet they voted moderate with McCain. Actions speak louder than words. Duncan Hunter maintained his conservative credibility and my utmost respect by endorsing and supporting the only fellow conservative remaining in the race - Gov Huckabee.


Pasadena Phil writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 3:10 PM
seehawk
I recommend that you order the ACME Anti-Terrorism Kit. If you order the deluxe version, they will deliver free of shipping charges next day. You might want to order the anvil and the 10-ton weight to drop on terrorists.
Dread writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 3:07 PM
SEEHAWK
"You always sound just like the Lefties on this blog, Dread."

Perhaps because they are right on many issues when it comes to this administration.

Have no fear, Seehawk, I fully expect to be siding with you again come January 2009 when we're both railing against the Clinton or Obama administration for further shredding the constitution.

"I would rather be dead than considered a RED."

And I don't think anyone fits well into a left or right divide.

Above all, I am for less government and more freedom. If that means I stand with the Lefties when it comes to government surveillance and civil liberties and I stand with the Righties on economic liberty, religious liberty, and federalism, so be it.

As I said previously, my loyalty is not to a party, it is to my principles.
Greg B, SD writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 3:04 PM
Re: SEEHAWK 2:14 PM
Agreed; I do not know you. However, you provided nothing to support your claim that your confidence in McCain is rooted in more than wishful thinking.

McCain's immediate goal is to get your vote...he doesn't give a damn about winning "the hearts and minds of a conservative evangelical household with 4 GOP voters." If you and your family are truly committed conservatives, it should not be possible for McCain to win you over given his liberal leanings and past betrayals. He's not a conservative.

What is possible is that you are giving in to fear - and you're not alone. Don't fall prey to the lesser-of-two-evils trap. Pray instead for strength to do what in your heart you know is right. McCain is not the answer.
SEEHAWK writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 2:56 PM
Dread
I'm not offended by it, it just confirms my evaluation of your strange belief and worldview.
You always sound just like the Lefties on this blog, Dread. I would rather be dead than considered a RED.
Dread writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 2:46 PM
SEEHAWK
You brought up this topic, not me. I was content to leave my original statement as is, but you opted to try to use it in some pathetic attempt to discredit me for not dutifully following the majority in reciting it.

I simply explained the reasons behind my actions. I wonder why you are so quick to take offense, when none was intended or given.
SEEHAWK writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 2:38 PM
Pas Phil
Well,it could mean the end of civilazation. If Obama pulls out of Iraq. Sits down and signs agreements with Syria, Iran, and terror groups. Then Iran get the bomb and begins their blackmail of the West.
Many of us saw what was coming with the Jihadists threat in the 90's. We knew it was folly to not defeat Saddam when we had our foot on his neck. We cried (ask my husband) when Clinton was elected and KNEW all these American deaths were coming,because of his foolisness.(1st WTC bombing,the African Embassy bombings,the Kobar bombing and the Cole)Each era of denying the danger the deaths have grown 10 fold, but as all of us keep saying,go ahead and stay home and do nothing to stop it.
NeoConScum writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 2:32 PM
'Hawk...Be CAREFUL What You Wish For,
pleasssssse! We wish Joe well, God knows. But is anyone missing his 16-posts per-minute-per-thread with the pasting, the cutting, the dragging, the linking...?? Joe's guy is getting the nom and may Jose--for now--remain under that Aspen avalanche wher Clarity put him. ;-)
Pasadena Phil writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 2:29 PM
That cartoon world again
RINOs seem hopelessly infested with irrational fear. If the ballot was so dangerous that voting wrong means the end of civilization, why would the establishment that dominates our choices not ban voting? Believe me, were Obama or Hillary to win, life would go on and you would barely notice the difference other than hemlines going up or down. Some of the commenters here have to get out of their echo chambers and read what the Dems are saying. Try looking up Tammy Bruce's recent opinions or Camille Paglia (her description of McCain is spot on, it is a frightening prospect to have a president whose response to everything involves deeply seated and personal rage). Makes you wonder if his captivity ruined his ability to reason.
TheReality writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 2:27 PM
Tell the truth Hugh
This is so funny. Liars like Hugh Hewitt claiming McCain was terrible for the country and could never win while the fake Romeny was in. Now talk about a flip-flop if you listen to Hugh McCain is now the 3rd coming of Reagan (Rombot was the second).

This reminds me of when Rush admitted he carried the water of people he did not agree with. Hugh at least have the courage of your convictions and do not be such a flip-flopper.
SEEHAWK writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 2:26 PM
Dread
I always mean and feel the enormity of the words of the pledge. It inpires me and lifts my spirit.
We know you love the Constitution and it's principles more than all of us put together and you do everthing right and we are all wrong. So glad you received that special knowledge! You and PL are just right there together in "all knowing".
And I am seriously glad you actually pray for President Bush. He appreciates it as well and often says that is what sustains him.
Dread writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 2:19 PM
Seehawk
Not that it's any of your business, but yes, I do pray for our leaders that God would grant them wisdom and understanding.

As to where I am coming from, aside from the religious problem.

Two, I don't think a man (or a woman) need stomach the demand to continually say a loyalty pledge over and over again as it demeans the words, the intent, and takes on a ritualistic, almost religious feel to it.

Three, I object to the object of the pledge, which is more a symbol of the government in my eyes, than a symbol of the principles of the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence, and I think a patriot's loyalty should, above all, be to the principles America was built on.
SEEHAWK writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 2:18 PM
Soulsam
I am not listening to the media but am open to the facts that are out there. McCain was not my choice but Huck will not be the nominee.

Cabal members:
Has anyone heard from Joe or has he gone on a long vacation??heheheh
MaryStella writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 2:17 PM
Senator McCain
has to define himself quite loudly on issue of war and security. The Democrats are really endangering our security and giving Mr. McCain so much raw meat to attack.
Please this weekend on FISA, such an important issue not to miss, why he did not make a big deal about it?
I am not impressed by what he should have done as an ordinary stateman, and that is reading relevent books! We conservatives, need to be fired up with something; please, Security, security, security, Mr. McCain.
Has any one seen, or heard of Comrad Hillary Mainfesto?
We are in deep trouble.
SEEHAWK writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 2:14 PM
GregB
You don't know me if you think I am simply wishfully thinking. I am activly praying for McCain and intend to send him a suggestion list of advisors and things he can do to win the hearts and minds of a conservative evangelical household with 4 GOP voters in November. What if everyone who is digruntled activly did that instead of complaining. Do you think he would hear us now?
soulsamurai writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 2:13 PM
SEEHAWK & McTEX
I can't see how McCain makes a good candidate for Republicans unless of course Republicans want a more moderate, & less conservative Republican party. That's obviously what Democrats & the MSM all want - but is that what most Republicans, especially conservatives want? Why should we give them that when they already have the Democratic party? Why should we marginalize ourselves, our principles & our values by compromising?

http://www.mikehuckabee.com/index.cfm?FuseAction=Blogs.View &Blog_id=597

Stop listening to the Media and the McCain camp because they want McCain, they are not telling the truth.

IT IS NOT IMPOSSIBLE for Huckabee to win until McCain has secured 1191 delegates. If no one reaches 1191 before the convention then we will have a brokered convention. That means ALL the delegates will be able to vote again for whomever. Conservatives will have to decide if they really want to unite around a moderate like McCain or not - I would wager not, especially if conservatives are half as principled as they claim to be. After Gov Huckabee has had a chance to address the convention, he stands as good a chance as anyone (if not better) of actually securing the nomination, and if not, at least puts himself in the best position for both representing conservative voices and possibly a VP slot.

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-huckabee17feb17, 1,7660982.story?ctrack=1&cset=true




SEEHAWK writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 2:05 PM
Who's gasping Dread
It's your right not to pledge and I think people have the right to know where you are coming from.
And since your "yes is yes and your no is no"...You do pray daily for the governing authorites so that we may live a peaceful life? Including President Bush?
Virginia Patriot writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 2:01 PM
Neo
You haven't really made it until you have been added to his "list". Simply being called names by McLiberalTex is cool, but to be on his "list" is to die for.
SEEHAWK writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 2:00 PM
Soulsam
"Do you not think he will not say or do anything to get your vote?"
Not to the degree the Dems would. MCain still has to act Constitutionally and get the Congress to pass laws, and keep good ones from being overturned by an all powerful judiciary that we presently have. So it will be very very difficult. He is an honaorable man, and I believe he will try to build the fence. that is why I have already started praying for him to have the best advisors and brain trust Conservatives can offer, him.
soulsamurai writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 1:51 PM
SEEHAWK,
I fully appreciate the sacrifices that Sen McCain & all our armed servicemen & women have made on our behalf for our freedom. That does not however, qualify him to be president in my opinion. In fact, I believe that the very characteristics that allowed him to survive that time as a POW, the extreme self-preservation instincts he developed are in fact unhealthy characteristics for a president to have.

I look at Sen McCain's more recent service in the Senate as representing a far more self-serving and expedient model of leadership. I'd much rather have a more positive, self-less, sort of leader who has spent his life committed to serving causes greater than his own legacy. I'd rather a leader whose record is consistent with his values. I'd rather have a leader who has gained executive experience, by actually leading & making difficult decisions, rather than someone who swears at his opponents, second guesses other leaders, & fancies himself as one who would do better. It's not enough to be a courageous POW hero & to be well-read about Churchill & MacArthur. To be a great commander-in-chief, you also have to have character & integrity. You have to have and communicate a compelling vision for the future. Some executive leadership experience is far better than decades of legislative experience - especially given that Mac's legislative leadership consists of frequent poor judgement, counter-productive & divisive compromises.


NeoConScum writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 1:49 PM
'Hawk..Holding Off The Bi-Polar Tide,
I see. Smack'um good, Girl!

For any of the uninitiated: It's an honor to be labeled a Liberal OR a Fascist by the ineffable McPoopy(Paddy's spot-on term for ol'Tex). Really gets his diapers in a twist, doesn't he.
Virginia Patriot writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 1:46 PM
JOHN MCCAIN

JUAN HERNANDEZ TELL US YOUR HEARING IS BAD.

ILLEGAL ALIENS ARE TO IMMIGRANTS AS HOME INVADERS ARE TO HOUSE GUESTS.

HOPE THAT HELPS YOU GET IT. SO FAR YOU HAVE NOT.
Pasadena Phil writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 1:37 PM
douglas
I've read most of those books and it just cements my decision. I really don't care about Democrats or Republicans. It troubles me that both parties are now on the same wavelength espousing the same ideas and taking us to the same big government socialism in a one-world universe. They might couch their reasoning and arguments in terms that are designed to induce people of different mind sets to vote for them but they are all taking us to the same place. It the Republican party was truly different from the Democratic party, the RNC would not have gamed the primaries to allow Democrats to nominate a candidate who has taken great pleasure in demonizing the party's conservative base. If you insist in living in your cartoon world where presidents are dictators and the stakes in election after election are the determining our very survival of mankind, then you will be forever trapped in the establishment paradigm. You will always be a tool. Ballots present choices. Use them. Sometimes the alternative to a hammer is not a screwdriver. In this case, we are having to pick from a claw hammer or a ball peen hammer. Don't be afraid to exercise your constitutional rights to vote in protest. It beats having to shoot our way back into the process.
Dread writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 1:36 PM
Gasp!
"For those who don't know Dread is a guy who does not say the pledge of allegiance."

Oh, no! He doesn't say the repetitive loyalty oath to the symbol of the government!

He must be one of those religious nuts who believes in letting their yes be yes and their no be no, or one of those independent types who probably likes the Declaration of Independence and takes the constitution seriously!




Greg B, SD writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 1:30 PM
Re: SEEHAWK 12:42 PM
Like I said, call it what you will. I was merely trying to point out McCain's obvious hypocrisy when it comes to spending. In the final equation it makes no difference what it's called...it's still fiscally irresponsible and needlessly punishes the taxpayers...just like an earmark.

I appreciate where you're coming from, however, I believe your confidence in McCain is wishful thinking.

How can you say with certainty that he will build the fence before anything else is even considered? Or that he won't push amnesty down our throats? Do you not think he'll say and do anything to get your vote?
douglas writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 1:27 PM
readabook indeed...
"What happened to Great guy, Bad Senator, Awful Republican? Hugh is simply pathetic."

What is pathetic is your use of the false dichotomy. One can be an awful Republican, and yet be a far better choice than your choice of either hard left Democrat running.

Besides Pasadena Phil (who's been around a while), I wonder how many of the recently heard voices around here screaming 'I'll never vote for McCain' are really KosKids pumping the mantra. They've got to be loving this. Should make you wonder about the wisdom of your decision, Phil.

I wonder about McCain's bookshelf. Where are the books about the current war? "Looming Tower", "America Alone", "World War IV", "Imperial Grunts", "The Crisis of Islam", "Legacy of Ashes"?
Hopefully he'll not be one of those generals fighting the last war.
Virginia Patriot writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 1:19 PM
Where's DNC Joe?
Seems mighty funny that he's been absent since his D-lite candidate seems assured of the nomination. Where are the polls? Oh, that's right, they now show McAmnesty LOSING to either real D. When given a choice between D or D-lite, people will always choose the real thing. Remember New Coke?

He has one chance, No Amnesty!
Jackson writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 1:09 PM
On board for McCain
I respect HH so highly for supporting McCain now. He pushed hard for Mitt Romney, but now McCain is in, and he's behind McCain. As Hugh says, "we need to keep the war in the hands of serious leadership". Ideological sniping at this late date, is reserved for college sophomores and likeminded adults who should know better.
KGK writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 1:09 PM
Book reads
No matter the feelings aroused about John , can you imagine either the Hildabeast or the Empty Suit reading anything which would undergird one for an understanding of military confrontation, bravery, courage in understanding international enemies with strength? Of course not. The Dems would be reading Heather has two Mommies, Alan Alda's thesis, It take a family, and any books on tape by Oliver Stone!
McTex writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 1:09 PM
PC & Phil

By their own admission, place their faith in fascists.

Hillary Clinton and Barrack Obama are fascists. Not Hitlerists but fascists. If you doubt me read Jonah Goldberg's new book Liberal Fascism.
McTex writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 1:06 PM
Hawk

I like Huckabee but isn't it rather cruel of him to build up false hope in the mentally challenged?

I mean it's one thing to stay in when there is a chance of winning (even if only a slight one) but now that it is impossible he is simply creating false hope and I hardly find that a biblical moral attribute.
McTex writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 1:01 PM
PC

"Romney did exactly what he should have done, and did it with graciousness and class. (as usual) I enjoyed it because I know he's setting himself up very nicely for 2012."

LMAO... What do you expect? Like you said he was serving his own self interests so how well would that have played for him had he been ungracious and classless?

"What I thought was telling, but not necessarily surprising was McCain last Thurs. He was uncomfortable, rude, frowning with shifty eyes. He didn't say anything remotely gracious to Romney. What kind of man cannot discipline himself to be humble or gracious for 10 minutes?"

That’s a fraking lie. He was not rude – didn’t frown and was honest about everything he believed. You are a ‘nasty, vindictive, egomaniac who doesn't give a rat's rear end about his party, about conservatives, about the other problems we face beyond the WOT.’

People like you could ‘do a lot of damage to both the country and the party’ if you remain in the party. It is time you go the way of Buchanan and Perot. Adios!
PC writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 1:00 PM
McCain still doesn't "get" amnesty.
He has been dragged kicking and screaming ("GD fence") and has said both that he would sign the same bill again, and that he won't. Doe anyone seriously believe that amnesty won't be back, and that McCain won't sign it?

We KNOW it will, and he will. So get used to it. If he's so prepared to be CIC, why doesn't he understand the danger of open borders?

I agree with Phil - no democrat will blow Iraq, no matter what they say. But what about Iran? That's where I worry.
SEEHAWK writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 12:57 PM
WeirdDread
We don't enter in to your paranoia about John McCain but thanks for continuing to share yours.

For those who don't know Dread is a guy who does not say the pledge of allegiance.
soulsamurai writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 12:56 PM
More on the Choice Between Huck & Mac
Doesn't anyone get the sense that Sen McCain might actually do more harm than good in the war on terror? That because he sees himself as a General that he's all too likely to micromanage the generals in their execution of it once he's got the power and ability to do so? Does anyone worry about his temper, his anger, his lack of discipline, his character, his age in such a critical position?

A vote for Gov Huckabee is a vote for the future, for conservative leadership and values. A vote for the FairTax, Free but Fair Trade, a stronger infrastructure & economy, a secure border, a stronger military & national defense, and strong conservative values, including strict constructionist, pro-life judges.

Who's going to be more calm and collected under duress? Who's been in executive leadership for over a decade and had to make tough decisions on life and death and during crises? Who reacts firmly and yet courteously when criticized and under pressure? Who's carries more resentment and suspicion more arrogance towards conservatives and the conservative movement?

Even if McCain manages to win the 1191 delegates before the convention - the more that Huckabee earns, the less of a 'mandate' McCain will have for his maverick ego. Conservatives are foolish to support McCain at this point before he has secured the nomination because it gives everyone, especially the media, a false sense that there's been a mandate for a more moderate shift in the party's direction.

NOW IS THE TIME FOR CONSERVATIVES TO GIVE THEIR ALL FOR GOV HUCKABEE!

http://www.mikehuckabee.com/?FuseAction=About.101
SEEHAWK writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 12:51 PM
soulsamra
McCain has humbled himself and asked help from Kemp and Forbes..so "THINK" whatever you want to. I can live with someone who reaches out for expert's advice and LISTENS and agrees to act on it.The nastiness toward McCain on this sight is uncalled for.Before anyone else writes a slanderous word,thoughtfully consider the long years he spent being tortured and imprisoned for our country. Could you have endured that? Cold, hungry,exhausted,hung from your arms for hours without end??? At least have the grace and mercy to use civil discourse and if you want to stay home in Nov., so be it. Most of us think you are wrong, but you are free to be wrong. Thanks to men like John McCain.
Dread writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 12:51 PM
Weird
"John McCain has been preparing his whole life to be Commander-in-Chief in wartime, and his reading continues to be the sort one expects of a C-in-C in waiting."

Shouldn't that actually more scare you than encourage you? If a guy has been having ideas of being the commander in chief in a war for decades?

Wouldn't such messianic thoughts be railed at if it were Clinton or Obama who had spend years fantasizing and preparing to be a "wartime president"?
Pasadena Phil writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 12:43 PM
Tina
You are falling into the trap that only McCain will fight terrorism. Believe me, the next president will fight terrorism whoever it wins. This happens at every election where both parties exaggerate the stakes to absurd levels. The world doesn't come to a crashing end when Dems win and it won't this time either. McCain cannot win and it is critical for conservatives that he lose. VOTE THIRD PARTY for reasons I have explained over and over again. Don't over intellectualize your vote. Individual votes are counted, not analyzed. Have your vote counted where it will register as a protest vote. Don't be an enabler of what you don't approve of. If you're married to a violent man who beats you constantly, just leave.
SEEHAWK writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 12:42 PM
Greg B
You cannot redefine what an earmark is. That's the Socialist's tactic. McCain has never approprated himself an earmark. And he has said he will not push forward another amnesty proposal. And he will definately build the fence before anything else is even considered! Will Hill/Obama let the fence be built? Will they give automatic amnesty to illegals????
Smoke more of what your smokin....the Republic is finished if Hill/Obama win
McTex writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 12:37 PM
Phil

I would have handed you my hanky if I knew you were going to cry!
soulsamurai writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 12:37 PM
The Choice between Mac & Huck
The Primary isn't over yet. And the choices are not between Mac and Obama or Clinton. Until one candidate reaches 1191 delegates the choice for Republicans and especially conservatives is still between Huckabee and McCain.

Many are supporting McCain simply because they think that he is the stronger candidate for the War. Yet he is admittedly weak on the economy. We won the arms race with the Soviets because 1) we had a stronger, free economy, and 2) the Soviets were engaged in a costly war with Osama bin Laden.

Today the Russian economy is deregulating and lowering taxes. Our economy OTOH is close to a tipping point - John McCain does not understand how tax cuts work, he does not understand the economy. He would like to open our doors to Mexico, he would like to sign global treaties that would allow us to be taxed by international organizations, he does not understand the economic threat that we are facing from countries like China and now increasingly even Russia. And we are also engaged in a costly worldwide war with Osama bin Laden and Islamo Fascism (the Soviets were only fighting him in Afghanistan). How ironic is that? How do we win the war if our economy is not strong enough? How does that sort of "math" work?!?

The first rule of strategy is know yourself and know your enemy. You have to have the resources, the infrastructure and the organization, as well as tactical superiority, and brilliant commanders.

John McCain may well know and see himself as a great Commander-in-chief, perhaps a combination of Churchill or MacArthur, but how well does he know America? How does America really work, what makes us great? How well does he really represent us, especially conservatives? I think he's been out of step, I don't think he's learning from the past so much as he's living in it and trying to fix it somehow.

CONTRAST THAT WITH THIS:

http://www.townhall.com/video/Campaign08/1450_020908Huck
PC writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 12:37 PM
McTex - I didn't grind my teeth at all
Romney did exactly what he should have done, and did it with graciousness and class. (as usual) I enjoyed it because I know he's setting himself up very nicely for 2012.

What I thought was telling, but not necessarily surprising was McCain last Thurs. He was uncomfortable, rude, frowning with shifty eyes. He didn't say anything remotely gracious to Romney. What kind of man cannot discipline himself to be humble or gracious for 10 minutes?

He is a nasty, vindicitve, egomaniac who doesn't give a rat's rear end about his party, about conservatives, about the other problems we face beyond the WOT. He could do a lot of damage to both the country and the party if elected.

I agree that our troops deserve and require the best CIC possible. That's what makes this so diffult.
JimP writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 12:28 PM
SEEHAWK
Thanks for the update re Kemp and Forbes. I will follow up for greater detail. BTW, I ain't voting for the Dems. I agree, I can live with that sort of 'flip' and I am 'down for the struggle' against the socialists!
Greg B, SD writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 12:28 PM
Earmarks
I laugh when I hear preposterous claims that McCain doesn't cotton to earmarks. Would not his crusade for amnesty and benefits for illegals classify as an earmark?

Call it what you will, but, by any name it would have placed on the taxpayers - since you can read, that's probably you - an enormous, back-breaking financial burden. McCain speaks with forked tongue.

Defeat McCain!!
Pasadena Phil writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 12:28 PM
McTex
You are clueless. Have you ever thought of joining a Greek chorus?
Pasadena Phil writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 12:25 PM
Seehawk
If you mean that you always vote Republican, you are wasting your time. People who automatically vote Republican no matter what have no leverage because their vote is already counted. There is nothing to negotiate. They have already gained everything they want from you. That is not the way to play winning poker.
Tina writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 12:24 PM
Live to fight another day
McCain is not my favorite person, either...but on the most important issue of the day--the war against extreme jihadism--he has it right.
Since 9/11, the govt has managed to erode al-Queda about 2/3rds. We heard last week they are falling apart in Iraq.
That means they will move on somewhere else...and that means the theatre of this war will change.
The question remains...do we want a McCain or a Clinton or Obama running this war?
When it comes down to it...if we dont have our freedom, our liberty...none of these other issues really matter.
Do I like his stances on everything? Heck no. But of the canidates remaining, McCain comes closest to what I want in a president.
And remember...Reagan, even though he didnt like Ford, campaigned for him. As a member of the GOP, its important to rally around their canidate. That is a Reagan principle.
Does McCain garner much enthusiam? eh...in so far as he is the lesser of 2 evils.
I say we elect McCain, then go out and find a good conservative to put up next to him in 4 years. Elect as many good conservatives at the local level and in the House and Senate as we can. We have to live to fight another day...not go down in defeat (aka suicide votes for the Dem canidate) because we dont agree 100% with the canidate of choice.
Yes, I will hate voting for McCain. blech. But I will.
McTex writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 12:23 PM
God is just!

What immeasurable pleasure I take in reading all of you previous sycophants now turn on your former hero Hugh Hewitt.

Too bad I couldn’t observe you grind your teeth as you watched Bishop Romney endorse the Senator from Arizona!

Mmmmm Hmmmm... It's sweeter than honey!
SEEHAWK writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 12:20 PM
Pas Phil
I will work to get my voice heard within the Republican Party, no sucide pact for me.
Pasadena Phil writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 12:16 PM
"true" conservatives
I just love the intellectual legerdemain by the RINOs who can warp any concept and principle to argue that conservatives have no choice but to vote for McCain. "True" conservatives have explicitly defined principles that don't change to fit the candidate. Although the GOP elites desperately want our votes, they don't want US. Trying to bludgeon us to change our minds on warped logic while being condescended to as if we are confused is only cementing the deal further and making it an issue that will linger long before McCain crashes and burns. "True" conservatives will vote third party. That will destroy McCain and simultaneously deny Democrats a mandate. When you represent 30-33% of voters, you can do things like that. Let's do it.
SEEHAWK writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 11:58 AM
Mike
McCain is not perfect, but if you have children, please think twice about their futures and leaving them with what Hill/Obama would leave us. McCain was very good on wanting to reign in spending and one of only 5 lawmakers that never had earmarks....doesn't that count for something? If we had followed that advice the Republicans, would still be in power. Also 'The surge" was primarily because of him. whatever you think of the war, it is better to have America win, than be defeated in war. I believe he's had a high 80-90% voting record with Conservative rating.....
SEEHAWK writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 11:53 AM
pilsener
Correct on point and McCain needs to use the term "War on Jihadism" to better describe their ideology, and not their tactic of war.
We cannot let the Left frame the debate and he needs to constantly talk about attacks that were twarted!
SEEHAWK writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 11:50 AM
Neo
that sentence should read,"met each of us and has clear insight on this."
I'm so sick of this hate, Conservatives nonsense baloney..........
pilsener writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 11:48 AM
Are WE at War?
Check out the Stephanoulos interview yesterday. The Democrats and the Media have framed the war reference as only applying to Iraq.

McCain dutifully answered the questions about Iraq, instead of challenging the premise. I believe that Iraq is only a theater in a larger war, longer war; and I believe that McCain believes that. But all of the media question to McCain will be about Iraq: when are we going to get out, wasn't it a mistake to get in, what about all of the American lives and money being spent there.

Unless McCain aggerssively changes the frame. it's going to be a long, hard slog. Because right now, I believe that War On Terror (a name I have always hated) is utterly forgotten by the vast majority of Americans.
SEEHAWK writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 11:47 AM
JimP
Jack Kemp and Stever Forbes are now the McCain chief advisors on economic policies. According to Kemp, McCain sought them out and asked for THEIR help in crafting his economic plans, when he realized he had a shot at being the GOP nominee. Kemp stated on Haniity and Colmes last Fri that McCain regrets not being a "supply sider" in the past, and is now firmly commited to it's principles.
That's a flip I can live with. Obama and Hillary both consider me,"the rich that needs to pay their fair share" Yicks!!!
SEEHAWK writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 11:41 AM
Neo
This ReadABook character apparently hasn't been around here very long.Doesn't she know it's the Lefties who don't read books and even after months of goading will not name ONE BOOK they are reading!!!!!!!!
I thought the Left was tolerant and SO non-judgmental???? ReadABook states,"Conservatives have no moral center." So glad she has met each and of and has clear insight on this, huh?
And so glad I'm not being judged by this loving individual!hahahah Would she like to take a poll in the 3rd world of who helped them more me or she?The Left IS what they accuse us of....
"This rightwing brainwashing needs to be reigned in for the good of the nation." quote of
the Leftist, Briggsy 02/14/08
JimP writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 11:39 AM
McCain's Bookshelf
Senator McCain's apparent lack of interest in reading the numerous publications on Supply Side Economics and works like "The Road to Serfdom" by F.A. Hayek (as just one example) regarding social planning and big government mandates is troubling. I have read a number of articles and op/eds about McCain's prepartion to be a wartime President and none referencing his preparation to maintain a vibrant economy and limit the government. It is not enough to be well prepared to be a war time President. The next President needs to be prepared to do what is necessary to grow the economy while maintaining maximum individual liberty and win the WOT. McCain's lack of interest in economics and individual liberty is not reassuring.
eddie writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 11:24 AM
Remember Republicans,

John McCain is not now nor does he ever have to be the Party's nominee. The nomination of John McCain is not inevitable. It will only happen if true Republicans stay home in the remaining primaries and let the McCain supporters win. If the McCain supporters are a majority of the GOP (they have not been a majority to this point in the process) then he should be the nominee.
Mike_ writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 11:23 AM
Blah, Blah, Blah
I'm sick of the McIdiots trying every which way to make conservatives think he is conservative. He is not and NEVER will be. Look at his votes. Look at how he ATTACKS conservatives. You have NEVER seen him go after liberals in the same way. Look at, not just his voting record, but his signature legislative pieces. It is always a McCain--insert-liberal-here piece. McCain-Feingold, McCain-Kennedy, etc. I don't care what he says, what you think he reads, or what guy stands next to him telling me to vote for me. I can hardly stand up straight for the number of times I am bent over retching. The establishment goop is in a panic and they think the angry, old, white guy is their man. I'm not that stupid. The election is lost and the country is screwed and will remain screwed until the liberals are extinct. McCranky is a liberal facilitator. He is a Vichy liberal. McCain is the enemy...period. The McFreak will NEVER get my support or my vote...period. The goop will no longer get my money...period. I will vote for conservatives, if there is one on my ballot. I will send my money to conservatives. I will support them. The goop no, the dems (or, as I call them the hypocrats) no, McShamnesty NEVER.
Brett writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 11:12 AM
McCain is a joke
McCain didn't even realize that securing the border was necessary to prevent terrorist from entering the USA. McCain graduated in the bottom of his NAVY class (5th from the bottom to be exact - wonder what his GPA was).

Conservatives will not vote for McCain for two MAJOR reasons:

1. McCain/Kennedy Amnesty for 12 to 20 million POOR illegal invaders get path to citizenship and the right to VOTE.

2. 12 to 20 million NEW POOR VOTERS vote for DEMOCRATS and Conservatives will NEVER see a Conservative President or Conservative Congress again in their LIFETIMES.

So Conservatives realize that unless McCain signs the "Contract with Conservatives", we lose even if he becomes President.

Virginia Patriot writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 11:08 AM
bigkam
The only way you can possibly have national security is if Johnny boy COMES AROUND. I will not vote for him unless he:

1. Publicly dismisses and disavows Juan Hernandez and the Reconquista for which he stands.
2. Swears to uphold the oath of office and enforce the laws, including immigration laws. You won't be safe from jihadis if McCain lets them become citizens. Secure the border first and then amnesty is a non-starter gimmick that I'm not buying.
eddie writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 11:07 AM
Too bad Hugh wants to stop

the Republican nomination process before it is completed. Shades of communist Russia!!!
Greg B, SD writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 11:03 AM
What do you mean "if" we elect
a democrat? It's a given you will...there won't be a Republcian on the ballot.

Defeat McCain!!
Sautterry writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 10:30 AM
Free Kick
My state has been carried by the Democrats exactly one time since JFK in 1960. Heck, Goldwater even carried our state! AuH2O '64!!
If McCain can't win here it will be because he's buried in a landslide. So, I get a free kick and won't be joining the Hugh Hewitt/ John McCain "Straight Talk Express." Sorry. Have fun.
ReadABook writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 10:18 AM
oh my god
Pathetic. What happened to Great guy, Bad Senator, Awful Republican? Hugh is simply pathetic. Like his boy Mitt he's a flip-flopper, I guess he was in love with McCain before he hated him now.

Just be a man and stick to your guns. You railed against McCain for 3 hours a night for 3 months straight and now he's a hero. Conservatives have no moral center.
Rumes of B0Z writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 10:13 AM
McCain
As much as I hate to, I have to agree with Hugh on this one. While McCain is no conservative, he is far more able to defend the country than Billary or Hopeman. I thought McCain was toast (http://rumesofb0z.blogspot.com/2007/06/immigration-mccain-is-toast.html#links) because of immigration and judges but I guess I was wrong.

Sorry Brian, you're putting your state above the country. The enemy WANTS the Dems to win because they know they can rebuild and go on the offense. We might make socialists everywhere happy if we elect a Dem but our country will not be safe
bigkam writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 10:12 AM
True Conservatives will come around
No one who considers themselves a conservative would truly vote for on of the Dems, nor would they sit idly by and surrender the WH to the Dems. I think that once those people look hard at the choices, they will see the damage that could be done on so many fronts by either Clinton or Obama. The stakes are way too high this time to let our differences with McCain come before the security of this nation.
NeoConScum writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 10:10 AM
Brian...I Truly Understand...
I do. Hey, my Senators, until our Florida move, have been Feinstein & Boxer. So, I read ya.
Brianbnc writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 10:00 AM
B.S.
You vote him in. I'm not going to be responible for that maniac running the country.

I've tried to vote him out of office every chance over the past 10 years here in AZ. Things have only gotten worse and worse.

You take him... please. We freely give him to you.

Ah, now that's a good bumper-sticker for this Arizona POTUS election cycle:

Vote for McCain - Get the him out of our Senate!
NeoConScum writes: Monday, February, 18, 2008 9:35 AM
Huge Times Of Peril & War
Pitching a hissy-fit and pooching out the lower lip in a darn good sulk AIN'T THE WAY TO GO THIS TIME.

The stakes a far too vast. These words are coming from a Rudy-Romney guy, but, like Hugh, I 100% belive we can't let the Demis play footsy with Retreat, Cowardice and Social Engineering.
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