for good health insurance for his employees and us.
Because of our income status, we will be paying at least 1/3 MORE than that just to insure our family of four under this so-called plan.
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Juniper writes:
"CATO is a subsidiary of the Insurance and Pharma industries." --------- What if this were true? Does that mean that all words spoken are wrong? Is it possible to debate liberals on the issue? If what CATO is said is wrong, why not prove them wrong to prove your point? It is the same old tired tactic of stigmatizing the opposition.
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that alone will tell you it's a fiscal disaster ie lbj's war on poverty ,roosevelts new deal neither has worked out well fiscally . |
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Typical weak response - don't deal with the facts in contention, but instead attack the "funding" of the messenger. If you know anything about CATO they are scrupulously devoid of entanglements with "big anything". |
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There is an old saying among pilots: RED ON RED YOU'R DEAD. Works with idiots and their money are soon parted. We are in a mess and better get some smarts sooooooooooon. |
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Instead of facts...just claim the opposition is being funded by___________(insert industry) and that they just hate____________(insert minority/poor). Juniper, how about you produce some facts as to why government run healthcare will work this time since it has failed everywhere else its been tried(including Massachusetts)! If this is about better healthcare and not about control...why is there no opening up insurance across state lines(real competition among the 1300+ insurance companies in the US as opposed to the gov't regulation that limits it to 4-5 per state if that!) which would drive down premium rates or any tort reform to speak of, which would limit defensive medicine and absurd lawsuits? |
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Read it yourself Libs. John Cassidy from the New Yorker is being honest about it...at least someone on the left is.
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/johncassidy/2009/11/s ome-vaguely-heretical-thoughts-on-health-care-reform.html
If you are too lazy to read the whole thing, here's enough;
"...But let’s not pretend that it isn’t a big deal, or that it will be self-financing, or that it will work out exactly as planned. It won’t.
Many Democratic insiders know all this, or most of it. What is really unfolding, I suspect, is the scenario that many conservatives feared. The Obama Administration, like the Bush Administration before it (and many other Administrations before that) is creating a new entitlement program, which, once established, will be virtually impossible to rescind. At some point in the future, the fiscal consequences of the reform will have to be dealt with in a more meaningful way, but by then the principle of (near) universal coverage will be well established. Even a twenty-first-century Ronald Reagan will have great difficult overturning it. "
Welcome ye'all endentured slaves of the middle class. Ye shall help keep alive a family of peasants, possibly illegal ones from this point forward...
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juniper blows more smoke than Tommy Chong.I'm just saying.Needling the unwashed masses.CVA64 |
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Do you have evidence that CATO is a subsidiary of the Insurance and Pharma industries or are you just blowing smoke, which is likely?
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since they (dems) have raided the medicare fund for years leaving it ready to collapse and then they would have to face audits , hopefully, which would expose their theivery, instead they want to collapse it now and morph into a NEW government system, now to HELP anyone, but to cover up their corrupt stealing from the present system.They are really just crooks and its time to end this sharrade and run them from every office for GOOD!!!!!!! |
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If statists wanted to "save money", they'd wean people OFF the public dole rather than expand the numbers who are dependent.
2+2 STILL = 4
And Juniper? Cato is opposed to coercion. The only institution in America that can legitimately coerce compliance is government. Therefore, Cato is opposed to government (for the most part).
Seriously, is attacking the messenger the best you've got? |
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...and it isn't the people of America who remain uninsured.
Could that possibly mean that CATO is a subsidiary of the Insurance and Pharma industries? In every way, yes. |
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