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Thursday, May 01, 2008
Huckabee: Obama's Former Pastor Needs Him to Lose
Posted by: Matt Lewis at 4:27 PM
Interesting quote from Huckabee ....

"Former Republican presidential hopeful Mike Huckabee said Wednesday Barack Obama's bid for the White House is not being derailed because he is black, but because his former pastor does not want him to show the country's race relations have progressed.

Obama, a Democrat, has struggled in recent weeks to distance himself from incendiary comments made by the Rev. Jeremiah Wright.

"His (Obama's) campaign is not being derailed by his race, it's being derailed by a person who doesn't want him to prove that we have made great advances in this country," Huckabee told reporters.

... "Jeremiah Wright needs for Obama to lose so he can justify his anger, his hostile bitterness against the United States of America," Huckabee said."
(Emphasis mine).



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ScarletPimpernel writes: Thursday, May, 01, 2008 5:56 PM
could be
It might leave certain people with that desperate feeling if what they believe just isn't so.

That's why communists keep moving from cause to cause. They are currently "Greenies".
Big G writes: Thursday, May, 01, 2008 6:03 PM
Exit question:
What happened to Huck’s sympathy for Wright? I thought we owed the man some slack.


"As easy as it is for those of us who are white, to look back and say “That’s a terrible statement!”…I grew up in a very segregated south. And I think that you have to cut some slack — and I’m gonna be probably the only Conservative in America who’s gonna say something like this, but I’m just tellin’ you — we’ve gotta cut some slack to people who grew up being called names, being told “you have to sit in the balcony when you go to the movie. You have to go to the back door to go into the restaurant. And you can’t sit out there with everyone else. There’s a separate waiting room in the doctor’s office. Here’s where you sit on the bus…” And you know what? Sometimes people do have a chip on their shoulder and resentment. And you have to just say, I probably would too. I probably would too. In fact, I may have had more of a chip on my shoulder had it been me."

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/05/01/huckabee-wright-needs -obama-to-lose-to-justify-his-sense-of-perpetual-racial-gri evance/
Big G writes: Thursday, May, 01, 2008 6:10 PM
What would Huck say
to Obama if he asked Huck to take down the Confederate flag, would he tell Obama where he could stick the pole?

I guess it all depends on which southern audience your addressing.
ScarletPimpernel writes: Thursday, May, 01, 2008 6:17 PM
I agree Big G
Losers take the flag down.
PC writes: Thursday, May, 01, 2008 7:58 PM
Ironic comments coming from Huck
Too bad Huckabee does not see the irony in his comments. He himself didn't refrain from using the very same type of identity politics as Wrights. Huckabee is blind (as also is Wright) to the fact that the U.S. has largely moved on from the kind of bigotry he was so anxious to exploit. The number of people harboring anger and bitterness against the LDS church (like Huck and many who support him) is diminishing and becoming irrelevant.

I guess we can at least thank Huck for opening so many eyes to the destructive nature of the anti-Mormon movement. In the process, he revealed his true character. He is divisive and toxic to the GOP and the country, and I doubt he will ever earn another spotlight on the national stage.

sloandog writes: Thursday, May, 01, 2008 8:04 PM
Finally
something I can agree with the Huckster on,although I am still not buying that bottle of snake oil he's selling.
Cubsfan writes: Thursday, May, 01, 2008 8:41 PM
Huck is right!
If Barack Hussein Obama wins and becomes President the blacks leaders lose. They can't play the race card as well anymore. They can't whine about White America as much.
Stoic Patriot writes: Thursday, May, 01, 2008 9:06 PM
Huck is right
Wright's entire rhetoric hinges on Obama losing. At the same time, however, I think it's more plausible he came out and spoke to give Obama the proverbial "second-chance" to distance himself from Wright. Too bad for Obama though that I think most Americans will say after 20 years of being with the pastor that they don't buy it.
Pro writes: Thursday, May, 01, 2008 9:10 PM
LDS phantoms
PC writes: 'Too bad Huckabee does not see the irony in his comments.'

ME: He'd have to be telepathic. The irony is in your mind.
Qweenmumof7 writes: Thursday, May, 01, 2008 9:15 PM
Intresting.
Talk about the pot calling the kettle black, or in this case, green.

Sometimes huckie says stuff that is profound - yet he does not understand what he just said~ Pity.
Qweenmumof7 writes: Thursday, May, 01, 2008 9:17 PM
I do wonder,
When Huckie will distance himself from the KKK. You see, they broke off from the SBC, because they did not want to intergrate congergrations.

Tick, tick, tick. I'm waiting huckie. (of course, I've got provision!)
Pro writes: Friday, May, 02, 2008 1:01 AM
Why libel?
Qweenmumof7 'I do wonder, When Huckie will distance himself from the KKK.'

ME: huh? I think you're spending too much time online. You're cracking up.
wagmanfigit writes: Friday, May, 02, 2008 1:43 AM
I still don't trust Hukabee
But I do have to say it is something to think about.
PC writes: Friday, May, 02, 2008 1:44 AM
Wright/Huck similarities
They are both divisive figures who exploit the worst biases of their followers, and then deny doing so. Why did Huck initially defended Wright? Because they are somewhat kindred spirits - but Huck's bigotry goes down smooth with his Gomer Pyle delivery sytle. Indeed, it is hadly visible to the naked eye. Whereas Wright is like fingernails on a chalkboard. Gosh, at least Wright has the decency to be open about it.


Pro writes: Friday, May, 02, 2008 2:33 AM
'Why did Huck initially defend Wright?
PC writes: 'Why did Huck initially defended Wright? Because they are somewhat kindred spirits...'

ME: That's just silly. Your Huckabee hatred has turned you goofy (I'm assuming you weren't goofy before).

Here's why:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIsHapfIspg
hambones writes: Friday, May, 02, 2008 8:15 AM
give him credit
As someone who has been (and will continue to be) critical of Huck I've got to give him credit here. I think he hit the nail on the head, and I don't know that this statement is inconsistent with other things he has said.
eddie too writes: Friday, May, 02, 2008 10:46 AM
Huckabee haters unite,

normal people are beginning to see your illness.
PC writes: Friday, May, 02, 2008 11:07 AM
I'm just sayin
Wright and Huck employ the same techniques. They are dividers, not uniters. Thye pit one group against the other for political gain.

We don't need that in the GOP. McCain doesn't need it, and that's why he isn't using Huck at all.
PC writes: Friday, May, 02, 2008 11:14 AM
Huckabee needs Romney to Lose
Just as Wright needs Obama to lose, Huck needs Romney to lose. He won't, he can't stop slamming Romney. Huck people, don't you ever wonder why he was so obsessed with Romney?

If Romney is chosen for VP, the Mormon issue is off the table. That was Huckabee's original appeal to evangelicals. When the sky doesn't fall with Romney in office, how will Huck run against him in 2012? He will have to come up with an entirely new strategy.
Shelby writes: Friday, May, 02, 2008 12:37 PM
HuckaBEEN Go Away Already!
Huckabeen will do or say anything to get attention. It is downright laughable that Huckabeen, made of the same divisive and hateful cloth as Rev. Wright, gives his opinion on this! Get a CLUE and GET LOST HuckaBEEN!
PC writes: Friday, May, 02, 2008 2:08 PM
Amen, Shelby
Amen.
Jarrod writes: Friday, May, 02, 2008 11:23 PM
Who's Obsessed?
Is it my imagination, or do certain people here on Townhall apparently troll the posts looking for the name Huckabee so they can slander the man one (or two, or three, or four) more times?

Now that's obsessed. And it sure is getting old.
Pro writes: Saturday, May, 03, 2008 2:37 AM
Romney still ahead in slam department
PC writes: '...He won't, he can't stop slamming Romney. Huck people, don't you ever wonder why he was so obsessed with Romney?'

ME: Mitt Romney tried to bury Mike Huckabee in millions of dollars in negative advertising. Mitt probably spent more money in anti_Huck ads than Huckabee spent on all campaign expenses combined.

Huckabee probably spent 1/10th of the total expenditures of Romney. So, Huckabee had to go on to free media and do live himself what Romney paid the political ad minions to do.

The 2008 campaign continues now as it is folded into the theoretical campaign for the 2012 nomination. It will be a Romney vs. Huckabee rematch. All other comers will be crowded out, as Romney and Huckabee are likely to suck all the political oxygen out of the air and others then are not likely to get traction.

Iow, if McCain is not the incumbant running for relection, then 2012 won't be a fresh whole new campaign, with new as yet undiscovered candidates, but it will likely pick up where it left off when Romney withdrew.
Synthesizer writes: Saturday, May, 03, 2008 11:24 AM
PC-- LDS try forcing Catholics 2 murder
[PC on May 1, 2008 7:58 PM]"The number of people harboring anger and bitterness against the LDS church (like Huck and many who support him) is diminishing and becoming irrelevant."

What's your defense of the LDS Romney trying to use the powers of government to force Catholics to participate in the killing of innocent preborn human life?

/////////////////////
Lopez, Kathryn Jean. 16 December 2007. "Team Thompson on Romney & E.C."
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZDg0ZjQ0YWM3YmZiYz U0ODZlMjM2MTIyZTA1ZGE0YzU=

Romney flips, & backs forcing Catholic hospitals to dispense morning-after abortion pill
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3e6675e4-6f6e-4c84-b1a 1-5d3a743d140e%4021g2000hsj.googlegroups.com

Helman, Scott. 9 December 2005. "Romney says no hospitals are exempt from pill law
He reverses stand on Plan B"
http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2005/12/09/romney _says_no_hospitals_are_exempt_from_pill_law/
Reilly, seeking the Democratic nomination in the governor's race, took credit yesterday, as did other Democrats and reproductive rights organizations, for pressuring Romney to abandon a policy they said would have only burdened victims.
''I think we're all very happy that the administration has backed off on this," Reilly told reporters yesterday at a press conference with representatives of Planned Parenthood and NARAL Pro-Choice Massachusetts. ''This administration was on a road that would have made it worse for women in that position."

Romney: I can't help Catholic bishops on issue of state forcing Catholics to place adoption children with homosexuals
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=ef1f479b-a2f0-4357-835 b-cc3e4ad55242%40c4g2000hsg.googlegroups.com
Big G writes: Saturday, May, 03, 2008 12:21 PM
synthesizer, SBC funds murder 4 poor
Do you really want to focus on the religeous affilations in this political race? You know Huckabee, as a Baptist minister, running as the "Christian Leader" SET UP FUNDS SO DONORS COULD FUND ABORTIONS for the poor in Arkansas as Governor.

He was also for states rights before he was against it.



"All Roe v. Wade really did was to take it away from the states and federalize it. . . . It's best left to the states."
Iowa Voice blog interview, Aug. 3, 2007 (also see Right Wing News interview, 2006)

Now Huckabee doesnt think it should be left to the states. Can you say flip?
Guilani taken to task for for saying that it should be left to the states.


"The amendment to the state constitution that Huckabee had worked to get passed did not include an exception for rape or incest. Federal law allows Medicaid funds to be used for abortions in such cases, but Huckabee stood firm, saying he did not want to violate the state's antiabortion measure."

"As a compromise, HUCKABEE SET UP A SPECIAL PRIVATE FUND WHERE DONORS COULD HELP FUND ABORTIONS FOR WOMEN WHO COULD NOT AFFORD THEM."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/1 2/20/AR2007122002432_pf.html

Big G writes: Saturday, May, 03, 2008 12:26 PM
Synthia
"What's your defense of the LDS Romney trying to use the powers of government to force Catholics to participate in the killing of innocent preborn human life?"

What's your defense of the SBC Huckabee trying to use the powers of government to force the poor of all religions to participate in the killing of innocent preborn human life?
PC writes: Saturday, May, 03, 2008 3:12 PM
Pro
I'm Afraid not. Both Huck and Romney have shown their colors. Huck doesn't have a prayer in 2012. He only has a small following, and his gigantic misteps during the campaign and continuing even now have turned off too many voters. There are only a limitd number of evangelicals who want a pastor for pres. They dont' care whether he's conservative or not.

Romney is continuing to shine. He is working hard to help McCain and the party. Huck is doing no such thing, he is only helping himself. It will come back to bite him.

Vote for Truth writes: Saturday, May, 03, 2008 9:59 PM
Romney supporters
I have noticed in this blog that it is you people who start making cracks about religion, Huckabee's. If you will look at the comments in this blog, you will clearly see that you are the guilty people who put down Mike Huckabee and his religion. You people are really pathetic. It's not Mitt Romney's religion that has bothered Mike Huckabee's supporters, it is the lack of integrity Mitt demonstrates.

BTW, I don't believe Mike Huckabee EVER supported abortion. This is just another example of how people can take things out of context and try to destroy someone's reputation. You know like Mitt Romney did during the primary to Mike Huckabee. Those ads contained a very, very small part of information that was true, and the rest of the truth was left out to give the worst possible slant. Mike Huckabee asked Mitt about that at one debate, and Mitt said, "Well, we don't have enough room for everything!" Right, just the parts that could hurt Mike Huckabee. Who gave over $255,000 to the "Club for Growth"...Mitt Romney. Of course, it's just a coincidence that they were the organization that slammed Mike Huckabee from day one. If you believe that, I have some property in the ocean I want to sell you!

Mike Huckabee has long ago left worrying about Mitt Romeny. He's not obsessed with him, but you supporters are sure obsessed with criticizing Mike Huckabee every chance you get. Most Huckabee supporters I know don't care about the Mormom religion, so stop using that as an excuse to blast Mike Huckabee.
Pro writes: Saturday, May, 03, 2008 10:52 PM
Huck only just begun; Romney about done
PC writes: 'Both Huck and Romney have shown their colors. Huck doesn't have a prayer in 2012. He only has a small following, and his gigantic misteps during the campaign and continuing even now have turned off too many voters.'

ME: Nonsense. The only voters who are being "turned off" are the already committed Huck haters.

Romney will have nothing new to say, though he will try. What can he say which would be believable? He is as phony as a three dollar bill. And, he has no political accomplishments.

He will not have what it takes to win voters. Romney already hit his ceiling of conservatives. He only has Giuliani liberals to appeal to, which he will. He is primarily a bluestate candidate.

LDS is the least of his problems. A Massachusetts patrician cannot win in Dixie. Kerry couldn't. Ted Kennedy couldn't. And, Dukakis, though he was more populist than patrician, couldn't. And, neither can a Republican patrician like Mitt Romney.

Huckabee, on the other hand, can charm new people everywhere he goes. And, he does, and he is. He has ripe opportunities among Roman Catholics and among Blacks --and among independents and Reagan Democrats.

Romney dissed Black Americans by skipping "The All-American Presidential Forums debate" in Baltimore, Maryland, at Morgan State University September 27, 2007.

And, Romney isn't believable to many serious Roman Catholics, and I doubt he can have appeal to Reagan Democrats.
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