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Since Obama is virtually buying the Presidency of the United States, Has anybody actully investigated the origin of Obama's hundreds of millions of dollars? We are told that it's coming from individual's small donations via the internet, but how do we know it's not origianally coming from radical sources, or even from overseas interests? |
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Normally I try to stay on topic (or at least target), but since our lovely hostess inexplicably neglected to put up a post on this (I had to find out from Conservative Grapevine), I have to point you to the latest "Week in Peeps"...
http://www.townhall.com/video/HamNation/1450_042508Peeps
We now return you to your regularily-scheduled flame wars. |
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this campaign is not about race at all, like the blacks like to say when nothing goes their way!it's about the man, the man obam. the man thats a fake, the man that is more of a terriost, the man that knows nothing about the people! the man that can not look at our AMERICAN FLAG, the man (yes people) that hates AMERICA! not race, stop useing it for an excuse! but for the man if elected will destroy AMERICA! listen when obama tries to explain his friends and their dirty deads, he is fooling the people! the people of this country better wake up before it's too late! |
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Does this cranky ol' man that it seems we're stuck with actually WANT to be President? He invokes among others TR. TR loved a fight and he did not have to contend with socialists and secularists in the Democrat Party as we do. Again..hate to say it..but I'm afraid this Vietnam generation of vets track record in politicvs is looking pretty dismal. |
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Obama has no right to privacy when it comes to his attending this nut-job's sermons. Newsflash, McCain: Obama could quite possibly be in possession of 16,000 nuclear weapons within 9 months. I want to know what time he takes a sht, and whether there was split-second indecision to aquire 1 tissue square or 4! WE are the Government. YOU have no more privacy, John. So how can you argue that your opponent should have?? You're about to become our Beeahtch, Johnny Boy. You better set certain things straight in your mind before that view becomes 'mind-set' and comes back to bite you in your asss, John. You're about to become the greatest of the servants, not a King. |
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"Let's give McCain........ .....a little credit for being an experienced campaigner. Obama had it exactly right when he said if McCain wanted the ad pulled, it would be pulled. Well the ad is still up."
Wrong. Those ads are targeted to highlight that LOCAL state political opponents who endorsed Obama for the benefit LOCAL GOP candidate. They have nothing to do with McCain and he does not have the influence you claim to have them pulled. I would say his name in NC is now mud. It's bad enough he isn't providing any coattails for the down ticket GOP candidates. He doesn't have to attack them and negate ads that THEY PAID FOR! McCain is worst Republican presidential candidate ever. For 2008, there is no Republican Party.
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God forbid we hurt anyone's feelings during an election year!! I'm sure Rev. Wright was thinking that from the pulpit when he said "America's chickens are coming home to roost". I wonder if Obama, or by miracle Hillary will pay McCain the same respect when the general election starts? |
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It might hurt someones feelings.
That would be O.K. with McCain if it was conservatives, but we're talking about his friends on the left. |
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That McCain would move away from the conservative base, is so very unlike him. I mean he has never done anything like this before. |
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What is so bad for putting an ad on the air that has nothing to do with McCain, but has to do with calling Obama's judgement into question? Someone, anyone??? |
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I'll spell out what it tells me.
Obama is a radical who has a deep resentment for this country. His wife says she has never, until Obama was the front runner for the nomination, been proud of this country. I believe Obama feels the same way. I believe his views are more Marxist than capitalistic. He wants to convince the rest of us poor middle class that we are oppressed and have no chance of rising above that oppression unless a messiah like him comes and frees us by taking from those who have worked hard and made a success of their lives and gives to them. Let's take those evil profits that evil corporations make and distribute it to the poor oppressed people who are too pitiful to ever make it on their own.
That's not what America is about, in my opinion. I believe people can make it on their own. This country gives all an opportunity to be whatever one wants to, and is willing to work to become, as Obama himself has. Does he think others are not as smart as him so they can never be successful?
I'm sure you'll dismiss that as speculation and gossip, but speculation is all we can do isn't it? It is easy for Obama to dress up nice and say the right thing in his stump speech, so we have to try other ways to try to really understand the man - some from his past and associations and some from himself, but I'm just one of those bitter gun hugging, religious fanatics who is so bitter toward my leaders that I have nothing else to cling to.
I didn't go to Colombia, you know.
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Well then, why can't you be specific? Why can't you explain what these associations mean? What can we learn from these associations about Obama? All I hear from you and every other conservative I talk to or see on TV is a bunch of speculation and innuendo. |
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Yes, I have had many teachers and advisors in my life - some I admired and some I did not. A mentor is someone much different, however, someone who has great influence on you life, molds your attitude and view of life, and more importantly who you choose yourself.
Barack himself has said that Rev Wright is one of the most influential people in his life. He spent over 20 years being taught in the pews hearing the spews, and he chose to stay there and be taught by this racist America hater. To just say he was one of hundreds of teachers and advisor Obama has had over his lifetime is disingenuous and naive.
It's also not only Rev Wright but people like Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn. These are people he CHOOSES to associate and admires. You may not think we can learn anything about Obama from examining these associations but I disagree. This is absolutely relevant. |
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That's why I like him as many other independents do. Even when the republicans are not too popular, McCain is holding his own. He knows how to compromise when he needs to but he still votes with the republicans 82% of the time. If a politician is too conservative or liberal, they don't usually get elected. McCain has guts. |
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What could we possibly learn about Obama through Rev. Wright? Haven't you had hundreds of mentors and teachers and advisers in your life? I have, and nothing that any of them have to say could tell you anything about me, or what I believe. What's going on here is assumption, I've never heard any one explain exactly how going to Rev. Wright's church has influenced Barack's beliefs or how it would make him a bad President, only how it may, or how you're suspicious that it might. It's all rampant speculation. That's not an honest vetting of a Presidential candidate, it's gossip. Cheap, meaningless, tabloid-level gossip. I don't know what else you want Obama to do to disprove all of your assumptions about him, he's denounced the statements, he wrote and delivered a speech about his attitude towards race, that's not enough? What else is it going to take, or is this just unforgivable?
Sorry that you're offended, but this ad is the stupidest political ad I've ever seen. The idea presented by it is that anyone that supports Obama shouldn't hold public office, because Obama's pastor said 'God Damn America?' That's by the far the stupidest political ad I've ever seen. |
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I disgaree with your assertions 100%, but I respect the fact that we have differing opinions on Obama. I think his associations and particularly the mentor HE chose is relavent into seeing who this man is. We know very little about him and he wants us to entrust him with the most powerful position on earth? We must try to understand who he is, not just what he says in his speeches.
Your assertion that that is either racist or stupid is offensive. |
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.....a little credit for being an experienced campaigner. Obama had it exactly right when he said if McCain wanted the ad pulled, it would be pulled. Well the ad is still up.
This little ad buy is getting play far beyond North Carolina. Its message is out there, nation wide, and McCain's hands are clean. Wink, wink - Nod, Nod. |
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I'm sure McCain will tell Colorado Repugs to stop provoking the good people of the Left. Then the ads will stop because the Left always responds in kind when a Stupid Party member reaches across the aisle. |
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is a fourteen year old. So let's give her a break. |
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and mentors and associates and partners: see Clinton, Bill
also I'm sure we'll all be happy to talk about the "big issues" - your candidates first
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Running that ad was absolutely the right thing to do! I was beginning to think there wasn't anyone with a spine remaining in Republican Party leadership. Way to go Linda Daves!!!
I was so pleased with the NC ad that I made a conribution yesterday to the NC Republican Party (www.ncgop.org). At this point, I wouldn't give a dime to McCain. |
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Sarah,
His 'influence' doesn't concern me. I don't think Wright is a racist or a lunatic or a bad guy. What's more, even if his influence did concern me, I have the ability to discern that two black people, no matter what kind of relationship they may have, are two different people. Obama isn't anything like the crazed, anti-white caricature you've all made out of Wright, so what's the worry? That Obama is some secret Black Panther that's going to enslave the white race in his first 100 days? Please...
To address your second post, this matters because it's exactly the type of distraction that keeps people such as yourself voting for Republicans. Rev. Wright is the gay marriage issue of 2008. We're not talking about the war, the economy, or the environment, nor are we talking about how bad Republicans have ruined all of those things for the last 8 years. People are dying, people are losing their jobs, they're getting kicked out of their homes, we're all paying an arm and a leg for gas, and you're speculating about whether or not Obama's mind has been corrupted by his preacher, based on a few seconds of YouTube video which, let's face it, isn't all that bad. You can't say 'God Damn America?' Why not? Is the country not run by rich white people?
I wouldn't want to talk about the pathetic track record of Republicans over the last 8 years, either. but fooling yourself into thinking this is some big issue isn't going to fix your party or our broken government. |
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to be his VP yet? After all, the equal but seperate message will really form a strong platform for them in November. Actually, they will sweep all the states except CA (mexifornia) and NY (terrorist sleeper cell land). Racism is also a black thing as Wright has proven. |
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Liberals are illogical. First they argue that Wright is a non-issue because he is not running for office. Then they complain that republicans keep playing the tapes of Wright and his 'crazy' sermons. If Wright's words are a non-issue, why are liberals worried about the sermons being used in an ad. After all, it is a non-issue, right? LOL! |
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Obama, not conservatives, described Wright as his mentor and as one of the most influencial peoople in his life. Americans are right to be concerned about Wright being a mentor to POTUS. Why? He is angry, racist and a lunatic. HIV was invented by white govt. to kill blacks? Common, and you wonder why people are concerned about his influence on a candidate running for president? |
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Do you work for Obama, or are you just trying to stir the race-baiting pot, with those nonfactual, salacious and redundant posts of yours?
By the way, what did you "evolve" from? |
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I mean, Jesus, how racist do you have to be to use Obama's pastor as an argument against Obama's supporters? I support Obama, does that mean in my job interview tomorrow I should be asked "Do you think Rev. Wright loves the country as much as you do?"
Actually, is this racism, or just sheer stupidity? It's getting harder and harder to tell the difference these days with most conservatives... |
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Pasadena Phil writes: Watching PBS News Hour w. Lehrer They just ran the tape of McCain chastising the NC GOP SC for running that ad. McCain is for McCain only just like Huckleberry is for Huckleberry only. Some party. Glad I left.
Phil: just watched (10:50 OM/ PST) PBS with Bill Moyers interviewing Wright - maybe you'll like the sequence with Wright vouching for Obama's character. We did a complete 180 degrees turn, Wright is a good, offended yet forgiving man of cloth pointing with patient goodness towards America's misunderstood savior - Obama. Remember Monty Python?
As far as McCain, he needs a shot over the bow - we do not have time for his exhibitions of enlightenment. The second part of the 2008 campaign will turn ugly, ugly (trust the liberals & lefties for that)- and a guy who's fainting over the NC ad is not fit for that. The NC people should remind McCain that if he wants their votes he got to show himself as a viable political alternative to staying home and watching the Discovery channel.
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has hit the nail on the head. these liberals try to act all smooth and mature when all they are really doing is pulling the race card ONCE AGAIN! this ad was about obama's ties to this ignorant old man whom he sat and listened to for TWENTY YEARS. it's sickening. john mccain is sheepish! |
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It's McCain's right to strike such a gentelmany pose in this matter, but the problem for us, those who want to vote him as prssident of this country is that his opponents have no plans to be gentlemany in this affair. So, as a Republican foot soldier, I and many like me wonder: is this a sign (among many others) that McCain may leave us on a fit of PCness in rain like Ross Perot did with his supporters? The NC ad is right, and it is true. McCain should know better that politics is not pastel colors and soporific music - and also should be seriously reminded that splashing upon his (stll hypothetical) voters his noble enlightenment might be costly. |
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Why is there so much focus on the NC GOP ad, and no mention on any of the blogs today, that I’ve read, outlining the DNC attack ads against McCain? I’ve been seeing attack ads against McCain for a week in Colorado. Why hasn’t anyone from the GOP or the blogosphere asked Obama and his camp to denounce these ads? I’d like to see how Mr. Nice, Mr. Unity, responds to the standard he has now set? How can you be the President, Obama’s supposition, if you can’t get your party to pull a negative ad? |
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You made my day!
Also Native eyes, your hateful rant also solidifies my opinion of the liberal mindset of the Dems. By the way, you do know that the KKK was largely made up of democrats - see Senator Byrd. |
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THE SCUM OF AMERICA REARS IT'S HEAD MCCAIN ,HAGEE AND ROD PARSLEY!! REPUBLICAN'S KKK As they throw on their Republican Klanmans hoods running around trying to scare NC people...
Here we go back to the 50's and 60's..
What's next the burning crosses and churches??
EVOLVE PEOPLE, EVOLVE....
WHEN RACIST UNITE!!!@
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Don't ever tell the truth if the person is of color else you will be called a racist. Now if you tell the truth about a white Dem/lib then you're just a regular mean attack dog. Boring. Where is the slime or the lies? Will this well never run dry? |
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Are you not the same black conservative obsessed with illegal immigration.
Question: How's that so called immigration crackdown in Prince William County going? |
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Oh please run it NC GOP. It will only further prove exactly what the GOP slime machine is based off of: Lies, Distortion, and Fear. Did I also forget covert racism?
Oh GOPers, run the ad. Just another reason as to why your party is heading toward a early grave. |
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Where have I heard that before? Hmmmmmmm.....
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They wanted an amnesty candidate. It was McCain's "turn", after all. It could have been Rudy if he'd caught on.
It definitely could not be anyone who would enforce the laws and secure the borders.
If by some miracle of fear McCain does get elected, as soon as he has delivered to the Democrats their new permanent majority in the form of another amnesty, they will turn on him like they turned on GWB when he came to town with his "New Tone". Reaching across the aisle to these Democrats will get your hand bitten. Unless, like McCain, you're delivering them their biggest gains. |
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McCains advisor a democrat and didn't he say something about quitting if Obama was attacked? Can't remember his name. Now isn't that special, McC has a democrat running his campaign and that democrat supports Obama. Sometimes I think I have become trapped in an alternate universe.
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McCain will not get my vote this coming election. He is no different than the Demo liberals. First all he came out ridicule President Bush on Katrina episode which the La. governor and its conies were to blame for their ineptness. Not only once but many occasions he spoke against Bush's policy in Iraq and other issues while a Senator. He is a traitor I consider and not my kind to trust to lead this nation. Right now he is riding high where once he was no one. I believe if he is elected, he will forsake Israel and jump ship whenever things get rough. Demo liberals will eat him alive if he is elected and GOP party will have to depend on gaining majority seats in both chambers just to override McCain budding friendship with the Demo liberals. Keep up the true and don't relent. Thanks. Robert |
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you nailed it right on!....
Way to go NC!
Just wait until the "rats" go after him, if he has any gonies, he'll have to get down in the mud with them! |
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They just ran the tape of McCain chastising the NC GOP SC for running that ad. McCain is for McCain only just like Huckleberry is for Huckleberry only. Some party. Glad I left. |
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Finally our party has a state that will stand for what is right and not cower to the vast left wing conspiracy that displays Osama Obama as their "savior" and because of this, he should not have to answer to anyone. He is just a obnoxious self serving egotist with no understanding of our problems. The gun loving, Bible hugging and God fearing Americans will take this man down to where he belongs. I am truly proud of Linda Daves for not listening to Mc Cain. By the way, it was okay for him to demean our president today regarding Katrina wasn't it? What hypocricy! ! ! |
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over the past twenty years concerns, worries, and scares me, but not nearly as much as what he learned from his step-father and teachers during his elementary school years. |
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someone had some backbone. McCain promptly attacks his allies. Can't wait for 4 years of this cr^p. Way to go Mods! |
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Thank you so much NC GOP!
I can't believe stations are refusing to air it saying in essence it's too extreme.
It is too extreme and racist for advertisement purposes BUT not for being all over the news and knowing he sat there for over 20 years and subjects his children to this? Unbelievable! This is the first time I have given a contribution to the GOP at my state level and hope it wasn't for nothing. Please don't ask me for it again if this ad doesn't run.
This isn't a tea party and the Democrats are not going to be nice or forgiving. There is too much at stake-the GOP better get some balls. Thank goodness we ARE here in NC. This is totally in bounds.
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Part of being an opposition party is the notion that you exist in opposition to others. Good for them airing the ad! It's completely fair and warranted. |
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Yesterday McCain said he wanted to be the candidate of people all along the political spectrum.Obviously he has no fundamental conservative political philosophy upon which to make his policy decisions.That is why he can so readily cross the aisle and vote the liberal Democrat line on many critical issues.He even broached the subject of leaving the GOP twice.It should surprise nobody that McCain finds it easier to criticize conservatives in his own party than the liberals(aka Moderates and Independents)he is courting to fashion an electoral victory in November.The assumption is that conservatives will trudge to the polls and pull the Mccain lever to stop Obama or Clinton,despite their disaffection with McCain.If we do that,we will have elected a man who cannot be trusted to promote a conservative agenda,and who will owe us nothing.In essence we will have handed over the GOP to the "moderates",and no longer have a political base on a national level.God bless the North Carolina GOP for standing up to this arrogant impostor!I have always cast my vote for a candidate rather than against another.I cannot do that this year.If Mccain wins it will be without this conservative's vote! |
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McCain was right to distance himself from NC politics. After all, he is a federalist and he must appear to be less negative while drawing national attention to the ad. by pointing out to a national audience he is strongly opposed to it. Genius, I tell you, genius. Age does increase wisdom. It's better than Huck saying he won't run an ad. then showing the ad. he won't run. McCain denounces the ad. on national press to give it national attention while keeping his distance and condemning it. How many hits has the ad. gotten since McCain condemned it? That's what am talking about. Obama can't outwit McCain. He knows how to fight without lifting a finger to hit his opponent. |
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At least all of the GOP has not gone completely spineless. |
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may only further the Perdue and Moore names.
I wish they could have tied in all the State Democrat corruption somehow to make it all that more hard hitting. |
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Now they sound like a political party I can support. If only the RNC or the WI GOP had half the Malkins they do,.... |
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