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Monday, August 18, 2008
Not Much Better Than "Bitter"
Posted by: Carol Platt Liebau at 4:12 PM
Amazing how a San Francisco fundraiser can bring out the latent elitist in Barack Obama.  Apparently, he believes that voters aren't simply flocking to his banner because they have become too cynical -- and really, are too stupid  -- (although understandably so, bless our hearts) to realize how much better he is than the alternative. 

That is why he needs so much of the rich lefties' money . . . he's actually going to have to compete for the votes of these doltish Americans, you see, rather than simply being coronated in a walk.

Well, at least he didn't call us "bitter" again.

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One-Dolphins-Fan writes: Monday, August, 18, 2008 7:46 PM
Vicky

Reading your post above, it sounds a lot like John McCain and the RNC mentality.

JOHN MCCAIN HAS FLIP-FLOPPED ON IMMIGRATION ENOUGH TIMES TO THE POINT HE CANNOT EVER BE TRUSTED OR BELIEVED BY VOTERS. HE WILL GIVE AN AMNESTY TO ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS THAT IS NOT EARNED AS DEFINED BY CITIZENS AND NOT POLITICIANS, A CIVIL WAR IN THE USA WILL BE FORCED UPON US. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WILL NOT ACCEPT AN AMNESTY TO ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS - OR AN EXIT-AND-RE-ENTRY. THEY MUST VACATE THE USA AND TAKE A NUMBER - AND WAIT. NO COMPROMISE!

If one wants a civil war, just vote for the GOP choice - JOHN MCCAIN. The two go hand-in-hand.
miss vicky writes: Monday, August, 18, 2008 5:59 PM
"0"promises ILLEGALS A LICENSE not John!
WHAT A TANGLED WEB WE WEAVE WHEN AT FIRST WE TRY TO DECEIVE! THE FLAWED OBAMA CAN'T REMEMBER HIS MISSPEAKS AND PAST SPINS ETC,! THE MAJOR PROBLEM WITH "0"S MINDTHINK IS HE COPIES THE BRAIN POWER OF THE REALLY GREAT MINDS; WHEN LEFT TO HIS OWN THOUGHT PROCESS HE IS AT A LOST FOR WORDS! THE PARROT/PUPPETS MEMORY AND IDEAS NEED AN OVERHAUL!
I WONDER WHEN THE GREAT PRETENDER WILL CHANGE HIS MIND ABOUT GIVING THEM DRIVERS lICENSES? OH I KNOW, WHEN THE HEAT IS ON, HA!
One-Dolphins-Fan writes: Monday, August, 18, 2008 5:45 PM
JOHN MCCAIN = AMNESTY

Virginia Patriot said "A vote for McCain is a vote for surrender of your country.Your vote for McCain will be used as proof that you want amnesty."

I could not agree more.

And that is one reason John McCain is not getting my vote - I do not subscribe to his views.

I found the quote of Schmidt revealing - “Any person who supports John McCain’s campaigns is a subscriber to John McCain’s views"

Well, I do not subscribe to John McCain's views, period. Not yesterday, today, or tomorrow.
One-Dolphins-Fan writes: Monday, August, 18, 2008 5:38 PM
NO AMNESTY?

Bush did say NO AMNESTY... and he said our borders will be secured and illegal immigrants deported and businesses fined. Guestworker VISA I am OK with as long as the minimum fee is $5,000 per year per worker (paid by businesses) ... and businesses are limited to no more than five Guestworker visas (including all other Visas) at a time; not like INTEL and other businesses with thousands of H1B visas. I wish I could play the VHS video tape we have from February 2000 in which he outlined the proposal. The plan in 2006 and 2007 was not even close to the plan disclosed in 2000. George Bush caved-in to GOP & big-business control demands for low-cost foreign labor that replaced jobs held by US Citizens. That businesses had twisted the VISA programs to their benefit while the GOP controlled White House looked the other way.

YES - I am bitter. I saw my job as a SQL Server developer in 2001 vanish to an illegal immigrant despite my graduating top tenth of my MBA class.

So, don't go saying illegal immigrants do not take jobs from US Citizens. I had mine taken - despite an on-time within budget performance on 20+ projects.
Joe writes: Monday, August, 18, 2008 5:37 PM
The Defeatocons are worried
Their poison pill Barack Obama might not win it. They absolutely cannot let John McCain win. It will ruin everything for them. Because you only win by losing!

So they rant how McCain is just as liberal as Obama, and how Obama is not that bad, then they freak out when you say they are for Obama, because they are not for Obama, they are just against John McCain.
Virginia Patriot writes: Monday, August, 18, 2008 5:31 PM
Do You Want To Keep Your Country?


Actively, consistently, continuously enforcing existing laws will send the message that we are serious about our laws. Changing them to accomodate people breaking them sends the opposite message. And not just to those already here. Millions are waiting to see which tack we take. Amnesty will set off a stampede like we have not seen before. Enforcement will start the flow in the other direction as the jobs and benefits dry up. Those pushing for amnesty are for surrendering to the demands of the illegal aliens and their employers, abandoning the rule of law and surrendering our sovereignty. We should not change the laws to suit those breaking them.

The primary responsibility of the U.S. government is to protect the territorial integrity and people of this country. They have completely abdicated this responsibility. Both parties have been complicit in this. We are being told it is not possible to control our borders, enforce our laws, and thereby control our destiny as a nation. Hogwash. We are being sold out by corporations intent on importing workers for jobs that can't be exported with the taxpayers paying the true costs, financial and human. If we act like sheep and don't stop the inundation across our borders, we will lose our country without a bleat
Virginia Patriot writes: Monday, August, 18, 2008 5:30 PM
McCain Lied About Hearing Us

John McCain has not changed his mind about "Comprehensive Immigration Reform", amnesty, at all.

http://townhall.com/columnists/AmandaCarpenter/2008/03/28/b loggers_press_mccain_adviser_on_immigration
“John McCain’s position on immigration is very clear and this a question that gets asked at townhall appearances everyday in media appearances and has answered the question at least a thousand times before the New Hampshire primary,” Schmidt said.

He explained, “Any person who supports John McCain’s campaigns is a subscriber to John McCain’s views"

A vote for McCain is a vote for surrender of your country.

Your vote for McCain will be used as proof that you want amnesty.



Many of us see another amnesty as the end of the Republic, the stampede it will set off will be overwhelming. If we don't stop the inundation none of the rest matters. We'll be a banana republic before the jihadis can get us. There will never be another GOP president or Congressional majority. Importing voters for the socialists is as stupid as it gets.


McCain keeps saying "Secure the border first". We know that he means amnesty next. The plan is to get the border state Gov's to declare the border secure. Conveniently, they are all on board the cheap labor express. Then his good friend Ted Kennedy will bring back McCain/Kennedy and McCain can provide his good friends across the aisle with their new permanent majority.

I will not vote for amnesty.
Virginia Patriot writes: Monday, August, 18, 2008 5:28 PM
Vicky
Driver's licenses? McCain wants to give them CITIZENSIP!

Whatever you do:
Please do NOT stay home. You must vote. You do not have to vote for Obama or McAmnesty. There are always other parties and people on the ballot. You could write in Joe Oliva.

The important votes are for House and Senate seats. Conservatives MUST win seats in the House. The House is where things get done. It was the passage of H.R. 4437, an enforcement bill, in Dec.05 that sparked the illegal alien protest marches and moved this issue to the front burner. It was the Senate that tried to jam amnesty down our throats. The D's that won seats in '06 were conservatives running on enforcement platforms. One of them, Heath Shuler D-NC, introduced the SAVE Act. Call, e-mail, or write your Congressman and urge support of this legislation. Enforcement is what Americans want, not amnesty.

Amnesty is a losing proposition.
I don't think Obama is stupid enough to step in front of this bus.

McCain is. He's done it twice already.
Pasadena Phil writes: Monday, August, 18, 2008 5:27 PM
Vicky
Shoeless John will be granting amnesty to the illegals so they WILL be getting their drivers licenses. There is no difference between either of these guys. Yeah, I know the nebulous "character" thing. For some unfathomable reason, nose-holders would rather get their dose of ultra-leftwing liberalism from a Trojan Horse democrat than a real Democrat. Amounts to the same thing to me so I'm not voting for either and neither should you.
My Pet Goat writes: Monday, August, 18, 2008 5:20 PM
Quote
"At least he didn't call us bitter again."

No, you call yourself bitter with every nasty, snide posting, Ms. Libeau.
ROG writes: Monday, August, 18, 2008 5:13 PM
Making predictions
on how this election will play out? Lots of luck, but there is plenty of time for either of these people to self destruct-- one open mike, caught in bed with a live boy or dead goat, Russia invades Kansas City.

We are in the summer doledrums.

Now I have to get bitter and cling to my God, Guns, Pickup Truck, nine dogs and a partridge in a pear tree. And I don't even live in Pennsylvania! If I did I could have 10 dogs.
Virginia Patriot writes: Monday, August, 18, 2008 5:13 PM
GOP=WHIG
The Republican Party under GWB seems intent on political suicide. Pandering to citizens of other countries illegally in our country while telling us we must be vigilantes if we object to illegal aliens ignoring our borders and laws. Mel Martinez was RNC Chairman to ensure an open borders candidate in '08. The cheap labor express will be kept running, regardless of the consequences, to party or country.

GOP-RIP
miss vicky writes: Monday, August, 18, 2008 5:09 PM
The Great Pretender will let you down!
ONE DOLPHIN, AT LEAST MCCAIN HASN'T PROMISED TO GIVE THE ILLEGALS A DRIVERS LICENSE! IF YOUR LAST RESORT, OBAMA WINS, NO DOUBT YOU WILL BE SINGING A SIMILAR TUNE ABOUT THE FAILED ROOKIES DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENCY ETC,. BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU SETTLE FOR! EX DEMOCRAT, WHO KNOWS BETTER!
Virginia Patriot writes: Monday, August, 18, 2008 5:09 PM
One-Doplhins-Fan
Bush did say during his initial run for office in 2000, NO AMNESTY. He was talking about a guest worker program, but he kept repeating NO AMNESTY. Once he got in office, the first thing that got cut was border and interior enforcement. Workplace enforcement actions went from 2400 in 1999 to 4 in 2004. The untold part of the story is that they purposely flooded the country with illegal aliens to force us into another amnesty.

The citizens rose up in 2006 and 2007 to defeat those amnesty attempts and I'm just as pi$$ed off as you that the RNC managed to nominate the author of the last two amnesty attempts. McCain is STILL pushing amnesty.

I will never vote for amnesty.

GOP-RIP
Dread writes: Monday, August, 18, 2008 5:09 PM
Fun...
[And they start saying to themselves, a plague on both your houses.]

Yeah, that's because both your houses have been remarkably complicit in the evisceration of the 4th amendment protections, the Iraq War, playing Globo-cop, the burgeoning debt, the falling dollar, and the selling out of government to the highest bidder

I have good reason to be cynical, thank you very much; and I have doubts that you would substantially be any different that John McCain, with the exception that you might actually talk to foreign leaders before dropping the bomb on them.
Pat writes: Monday, August, 18, 2008 5:01 PM
One-Dolphins-Fan
"In 2000, George Bush ran during the primaries on the platform that he'd see to it our border with Mexico would be enforced; that his administration would see to it illegal immigrants are deported and businesses penalized billions upon billions of dollars. I have this in a letter from his staffer Karen Hughes in March 2000 - about seven months before the 2000 election."

You may have that in a letter, but that is NOT what the President ran on. He has always advocated a guest-worker program . . . always. That may be what she said, but I remember what he was actually saying on the campaign trail.

Try again.
miss vicky writes: Monday, August, 18, 2008 4:59 PM
"0"s FANS LACKING IN COMMON SENSE!
I've got news for you King Liberal! We may be middle age but I wouldn't go back to the naive, gullible, immature "youth" state of mind , that apparently you possess! Ex Democrat
One-Dolphins-Fan writes: Monday, August, 18, 2008 4:55 PM
Bitter - You Better Believe It

I am one of the "bitter" voters ... one who believes the RNC has turned their back on. And for McCain's staff to call voters (citizens) whiners only makes me more determined to NOT vote for John McCain, regardless of what crap the RNC and Townhall.Com digs up.

In 2000, George Bush ran during the primaries on the platform that he'd see to it our border with Mexico would be enforced; that his administration would see to it illegal immigrants are deported and businesses penalized billions upon billions of dollars. I have this in a letter from his staffer Karen Hughes in March 2000 - about seven months before the 2000 election.

Then the GOP convention - and the RNC platform. What happened? I wrote to Karen Hughes and asked - and I received a followup letter from Karen Hughes in October telling me the RNC was running the Presidential campaign and the George Bush staffers were "pushed out" and replaced with GOP RNC staffers, intent on changing everything around to attract the Latino vote.

I had been a team player for 24 years at that time, voting GOP for President in 1976, 1980, 1984, 1988, 1992, and 1996. I held my nose & trusted the GOP in 2000. But what I saw happen in the years that followed the 2000 elections leaves me bitter still today. From the Iraq war & all its lies to illegal immigration & foreign aide and being blackmailed by Mexico to the aftermath of hurricane Katrina & the mistreatment of US citizens who are victims to reducing federal aid to states and watch private businesses again & again trample citizens and our Constitution. To hear John McCain say "don't expect federal aide... Citizens have enough" yet he'll send foreign aid of $100-billion/year to Mexico & Latin American countries, leaves me with one option... to vote for Obama.

I will not support the GOP RNC in 2008 in Presidential politics. I am too bitter towards the GOP.
miss vicky writes: Monday, August, 18, 2008 4:50 PM
Obamas whishy washy, evasive responses
McCain showed, with his answers who the Boss is! Obamas answers revealed his ignorance, lack of maturing wisdom and convinced us he isn't ready, like never before! The misguided illusionist Obama and his beguiled, smittened worshipers are now up the creek without a paddle! The Rookie is floundering around and the Obamacans know not what to do!! I gave up on "0" when the strongest candidate Hillary was ambushed by her party etc,. He won the nominee by default and time is telling. Clinton was the one to beat McCain! Ex Democrat
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