Saturday, November 22, 2008
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Gary Bauer Hits Back at Huckabee
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Posted by:
Matt Lewis at
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Over at HEO, social conservative leader Gary Bauer fired back at Mike Huckabee over comments made in Huckabee's new book:
Huckabee said that during a private meeting we had, “it was like playing whack-a-mole at the arcade -- whatever issue I addressed, another one surfaced as the ‘problem’ that made my candidacy unacceptable.”
In fact, talking with Huckabee was like playing whack-a-mole, because he had a number of issues that posed problems. It wasn’t just that he didn’t get it on foreign policy. His record on taxes and spending, illegal immigration, his apparent backing of Al Gore's carbon cap and trade scheme, support for voting rights for Washington, D.C., and cozying up to unions like the NEA all worried me. Huckabee can call it whack-a-mole. But for me there were just too many items where he wasn’t sufficiently conservative coupled with a lack of attention and experience on foreign affairs.
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"You should be focusing your anger at Huckaphony for deceiving you."
http://www.cpoma.org/blog/?p=147
"For some bizarre reason the mere fact that Romney's never been divorced and goes to a temple regularly is supposed to negate the fact that he's extremely liberal," said Linda Harvey, President of Mission America, an author, columnist and national expert on the rapid expansion of the pro-homosexuality curriculum in schools. "Gullible conservative voters eat that clean image stuff up," she added. "That's why the media and the establishment thinks he can part the Red Sea. He's the perfect Republican liberal who can seduce conservatives and then leave them heartbroken as he did in Massachusetts. He used his Republican and Mormon identity to push through radical policies on gay marriage, abortion and pro-homosexual school programs that Ted Kennedy always dreamed about."
"A clean-cut family man who after six decades in Mormonism was still strongly pro-abortion and pro-homosexual unions, pushed gay adoption, actively funded pro-homosexuality indoctrination in schools over parents' objections and was far sloppier than any Democrat with constitutions… Now there's a politician the establishment can trust," said Peter LaBarbera, President of Americans for Truth.
"The Mitt Romney that governed Massachusetts was a man totally without the core principles that Mormons espouse," said Gregg Jackson, a talk radio host in Boston and author of _Conservative Comebacks to Liberal Lies_. "This man is throwing tens of millions of his own dollars into projecting a conservative, pro-family, pro-traditional marriage, pro-life image since he decided to run for president. He wasn't even a real economic conservative, if you scratch beneath his smooth talking points. He's the Wizard of Oz, a fake. I'm a professional and Romney fooled me for a good while."
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i noticed you never reply to synthesizers comments . his documentation obviously scares the tee total crap out of you . |
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I do not think you are stupid. I think you are irrational. It is not your fault. A person has to be irrational to belong to the LDS. I do not perceive that you are a convert, but are LDS from birth. |
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[Gunlock Bill on November 25, 2008 9:34 PM]"You should be focusing your anger at Huckaphony for deceiving you."
How was the Book of Mormon translated by Joseph Smith?
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when I read the sheer ignorance that abounds on here, so I must go away for a while because the misguided opinions posted by you left loons and Mormons is giving me high blood pressure, as I fear there is no hope for you it makes me sick that America has gone to the dogs because of you. I will leave you to your disillusionment. |
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LOL!!!
Did you get your panties in a bunch?
You are just upset because you can't defend huckaphony. LOL!!!
You should be focusing your anger at Huckaphony for deceiving you. Not at me for trying to help you see the light.
Hugs and kisses to you too.
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"Hey, you "conservatives" have done a fine job of "drying up the jobs". Unemployment is at its highest rate in 14 years."
With millions of illegal aliens taking jobs away from real Americans is it any wonder that the unemployment rate is so high.
"WHat's killing our industry are greedy CEO's who think they can eliminate middle class wages and still expect to have customers to buy their products..."
Nothing like a little LIBERAL class warfare there. Keep it up you liberal moron.
"Actually, they could probably change that through legislation that would include the districts voters be counted in various congressional redistricting. Of course, that would mean turning Virginia permananently into a blue state, so I can see why you'd be against it."
And I can see why a liberal like you would want to make Virginia permananently blue(LIBERAL). You are a liberal MORON. That's why!!
So once again you are defending Huckaphony with LIBERAL arguments.
You are a LIBERAL MORON!!!
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York Byron. 26 November 2007. "A GOP Attack on Romney"
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=OTBiOTQ1N2I1NWYxNT ZkNGNhMmZkNGUzZjg4MmViNDE=
A scathing attack on Mitt Romney today from Jim Rappaport, the former head of the Massachusetts Republican party who just held a conference call with reporters to announce his endorsement of Rudy Giuliani. Rappaport praised Giuliani's record in New York and said Romney "has a strong record of showmanship as opposed to actual performance."
Discussing Romney's relationship with the Massachusetts state legislature, Rappaport said of the former governor, "His word is no good…Mitt Romney would say one thing in a meeting and literally go out of the meeting to the press and tell the opposite story. There was no desire in the legislature to be accommodating to him because they couldn't trust him." Romney, Rappaport continued, "will be clear today on what he believes today, and he'll be clear tomorrow on what he believes tomorrow, but they may be different things."
Mooney, Brian C., Stephanie Ebbert, and Scott Helman. 30 June 2007. "The Making of Mitt Romney
Ambitious goals; shifting stances" _The Boston Globe_
http://www.boston.com/news/politics/2008/specials/romney/ar ticles/part7_main?mode=PF
At first, Romney voiced no objections to the fee, which some conservatives saw as a new tax. But in an April 11 op-ed article in The Wall Street Journal, Romney said he would take ''corrective action.''
Democrats who were invited to Romney's bill-signing extravaganza the next day at Faneuil Hall felt betrayed, furious that Romney had vetoed the ''employer assessment'' and seven other sections of the 145-page bill.
Romney is a big liar!
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.republicans/msg /798c5314480d0328
3 February 2008. serial liar Romney claims NRA endorsement-- again
http://race42008.com/2008/02/03/romney-flips-on-guns/
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[Laura on November 25, 2008 2:12 PM]"the Romney flip-flops"
Romney's flip-flops on immigration, minimum wage, abortion, homosexual agenda, campaign finance reform,
gun control, LDS theology
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=8458206d-7aa4-4800-9a4 9-948df8f8035a%40p1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com
Murdock, Deroy. 4 February 2008. "Mitt's Vietnam Flip-Flop: His Most Disturbing Yet"
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/DeroyMurdock/2008/02/04/ mitts_vietnam_flip-flop_his_most_disturbing_yet?page=full&c omments=true&voted=5
Romney’s a Flip-flopping, Pandering Idiot
http://www.stephenbainbridge.com/punditry/comments/romneys_ a_flip_flopping_pandering_idiot/
Romney flip-flop on environmental issues;
Romney: "that [coal-fired power] plant kills people"; global warming "quite alarming"
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=b315064c-1dd8-40a2-892 b-ae09f30cce43%40l1g2000hsa.googlegroups.com
"HE IS NO CONSERVATIVE, doing whatever he had to do, and saying whatever he had to say to get elected Governor of Massachusetts"
Wallsten, Peter. 25 March 2007. "Activists Remember a Different
Romney
Advocates for gay and abortion rights and the environment say the GOP
candidate misled them on his positions." _Los Angeles Times_
http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/03/25/78/
"He is a liar"
Romney is a big liar!
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.republicans/msg /798c5314480d0328
3 February 2008. serial liar Romney claims NRA endorsement-- again
http://race42008.com/2008/02/03/romney-flips-on-guns/
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"agnostic atheist gay marriage supporter"
Do you like Romney's handling of the Scouts during the 2002 Winter Olympics?
3/27/2002. "Romney: The cover-the-road politician"
http://www.888webtoday.com/bresnahan6.html
Romney showed his colors during the Olympics when he made it clear that the Boy Scouts would not be a part of the Olympics as they had traditionally been throughout modern Olympic history. There would be no Scouts in uniform for the public or press to see. Romney wanted no complaints from the homosexual community or the world press.
Every past Olympics, regardless of host country, the local Scouts participated in some way -- in uniform. In fact, some of the past Olympics even used Scouts in uniform to present the awards to the Olympians.
However, Romney had no problem with including homosexuals as part of the Olympic Games. In fact, he went out of his way to include them in a way that would gain him significant support from that constituency. Remember, Romney knew three years ago that he would return to Massachusetts after the Olympics. He knew that the majority of Massachusetts voters oppose the BSA ban on homosexual leaders, are mostly pro-choice, and support gay rights issues.
Romney was very careful to eliminate the Boy Scouts from view. He appeased them by permitting Scouts to perform litter clean up of Olympic sites before the Games began, and to help with putting up and taking down of security fences. All out of view of the public and the media.
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He also very cleverly made sure the homosexual activist community were invited to participate in the Olympics in a meaningful way that they would brag about.
The homosexual website Gay.com from the United Kingdom did that very thing on January 30, just before the games began. An article read by homosexuals all over the world proclaimed: "Winter Olympics First To Welcome Gays.
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Big G writes: Tuesday, November, 25, 2008 6:38 PM
eddietoo assist. to the DRIVE BY POSTER
"I do not respond to others who
attack the LDS because I do not know the strength of their arguments."
That is a lie and you know it is, you know I can find you praising your boy Whitey, and Jim Beam
eddie too writes: Monday, August, 18, 2008 11:07 AM
Salamander, Pro and Cim,
"I congratulate you on your energy and optimism. To continue to discuss religion with the LDS requires a great of both.
However, based on your continued attempts (of which I am also occasionally guilty), I have to throw out the adage about insanity is repeatedly doing the same thing and expecting different results.
If the LDS were capable of entering into reasoned discourse on religion and theology, they would have done so already. Draw your own conclusions.
The LDS resort to ridicule and insults because they are bereft of reason and ridicule and insults are all they have left."
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Big G writes: Tuesday, November, 25, 2008 6:42 PM
eddietoo assist. to the DRIVE BY POSTER
"I do not respond to others who
attack the LDS because I do not know the strength of their arguments."
That is a lie and you know it is, you know I can find you praising your boy Whitey.
eddie too writes: Monday, August, 18, 2008 1:07 PM
White S,
"thanks for clarifying our respective nicknames for the more obtuse who visit this site.
Meant in humor. Still trying to reason with the LDS I see. As I said before, you have more energy and stamina than I. I can only take their confusion for a short time. Hang in there, your devotion to the truth is admirable."
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"I am just as capable of stating LDS doctrine as you are."
I know you are, so try doing it.
"This is obvious since you are incapable of answering simple questions."
We've already had this conversation, yet you continue to bring it up, I notice you havent answered the questions posed to you.
"Of course, there is one true Church!! The Jesus I worship would never have started an institution that would fail."
You've already said you were Catholic. So what about the Jesus that prostestants and eastern orthodox worship? Did that Jesus fail them?
"I do not worry about attacks on my faith unless they are supported by reason in which case I engage the attacker in a reasoned discourse."
Please dont pretend that your attacks on my religion are reasoned.
"A religion founded on insanity is incapable of defending itself using reason."
So, who's religion is founded on insanity?
"Because people disagree with LDS teachings does not reflect in any way on the character of those who disagree."
Misrepresenting mormon doctrine does reflect on your character.
"Is the fact that believers, atheists and agnostics all disagree with LDS teachings significant? Yes."
You said it, ironic how you all get your info from the same rehashed anti mormon writings. Who are the "believers"?
"People who refuse to use reason in arriving at truth have little to add to any discussion of truth."
I agree, which is why I keep asking you to do so.
Unless you were claiming cerebral intelligence over me for being a mormon or mormons in general, then that's just Pharisiacal babbling.
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"I do not respond to others who
attack the LDS because I do not know the strength of their arguments."
That is a lie and you know it is, you know I can find you praising your boy Whitey.
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attack the LDS because I do not know the strength of their arguments.
I have read on the official LDS website that the LDS teach that Jesus is the elder spiritual brother to Satan.
I do know that it is irrational to try and start up again an organization that is inherently doomed to failure.
I have read postings by people who claim to be LDS that God the father is a human being.
I know that the LDS reject the Trinity.
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I am just as capable of stating LDS doctrine as you are. This is obvious since you are incapable of answering simple questions.
I realize that there are as many opinions of what the LDS' teach as there are LDS. So, I am not surprised you do not know why you think restoring the church founded by Jesus is not an insane proposition, if one accepts as insanity doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
By the way, if the LDS is not the restoration of the church Jesus started how is it related to Jesus?
Of course, there is one true Church!! The Jesus I worship would never have started an institution that would fail.
People turn away from the true Church because their faith is weak and they are misled by charlatans.
I do not worry about attacks on my faith unless they are supported by reason in which case I engage the attacker in a reasoned discourse.
A religion founded on insanity is incapable of defending itself using reason.
Because people disagree with LDS teachings does not reflect in any way on the character of those who disagree.
Is the fact that believers, atheists and agnostics all disagree with LDS teachings significant? Yes.
People who refuse to use reason in arriving at truth have little to add to any discussion of truth. |
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Im curious as to why you pal around with and give props to an apathetic agnostic atheist gay marriage supporter to bash mormons?
Don't you find it ironic that those people get the same information about Mormons from the same places you do?
Dont you find it ironic that those people have the same disdain for all religion?
Just curious as to why you think they have all the correct info on what mormmons "really believe" but have it wrong when it comes to your religion?
"Big G
still unable to justify the LDS desire to restore a failure I see."
Im pretty sure you've brought this up before, and you are still unable to accurately state mormon doctrine.
Still unable to answer:
Is there one true Church? If so which one?
If not, why did people turn away from the true church and create thousands?
If the true church is on the earth is it traditional Roman /Greek, protestant, non denominational?
Just curious as to why you have NEVER mentioned the nasty things Whitey-JoeB131-Eugene has said about God?
Im curious as to why you think the media, athiests,anarchists, facists, and gay leftist activists have it spot on about mormons, but not your religion?
Do they share your same values or something?
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where you can fry while you wait for me or any other conserv ative poster to post another thing on Huckabee; not because it hasn't already been posted again and again, but because you're a fool and too stinking lazy to even go and look at it - so kiss my arse.
Does it get any plainer than that, you stupid buffoon? |
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Still waiting for a huckabigot (like YOU) to start defending Huckaphony's liberal positions and actions WITHOUT bashing Romney or Mormons.
You just can't do it, can you!! LOL!!!
Still waiting!!!
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You're making a fool of yourself because you can't think of anything else to say.
I WILL TYPE THIS REAL SLOW AND YOU CAN READ IT REAL SLOW AND MAYBE YOU WILL GET IT, THAT:
THE DEFENSE OF MIKE HUCKABEE HAS BEEN POSTED DOZENS AND DOZENS OF TIMES - BUT YOU WON'T SEE OR COMPREHEND IT. Are you retarded? Or just stupid?
Also, many posts have been listed on here about the Romney flip-flops and the reason HE IS NO CONSERVATIVE, doing whatever he had to do, and saying whatever he had to say to get elected Governor of Massachusetts.
He is a liar and a snake in the grass who is like Obama in a way---able to talk a good line, but it is all empty, lying rhetoric.
Deny THAT if you can, but be sure and back it up with lots of proof that it is not all true.
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"Big G, trying to instigate a fight...."
Irony.
Address the point?
I just did. Are you there eddie?
"I wasn't aware Eddie and I were "palling around."
Where you are, eddie too follows, giving you back rubs, praising you for preaching the truth in love:
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You defended Huckabee's liberal position with liberal arguments.
And you couldn't do it without bashing Romney could you!
On immigration Huckabee is NOT CONSERVATIVE!!! If the jobs dry up we won't need to deport them, they will leave on their own. If you reward them they will keep coming.
On Unions Huckabee is NOT CONSERVATIVE!!! Unions are killing our industry. There was a time when they were helpful. That time has past.
To give DC a congressional Representative would require a change to the constitution. They have never had a Representative. If they don't like it, DON'T LIVE THERE!!! Other than that they already have voting rights.
Still waiting for a huckabigot to start defending Huckaphony's liberal positions and actions WITHOUT bashing Romney or Mormons.
Still waiting!!!
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Still waiting for a huckabigot to start defending Huckaphony's liberal positions and actions WITHOUT bashing Romney or Mormons.
Still waiting!!!
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Still unable to answer:
Is there one true Church? If so which one?
If not, why did people turn away from the true church and create thousands?
If the true church is on the earth is it traditional Roman /Greek, protestant, non denominational? |
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"Big G
still unable to justify the LDS desire to restore a failure I see."
Im pretty sure you've brought this up before, and you are still unable to accurately state mormon doctrine.
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Im curious as to why you pal around with and give props to an apathetic agnostic atheist gay marriage supporter to bash mormons?
Don't you find it ironic that those people get the same information about Mormons from the same places you do?
Dont you find it ironic that those people have the same disdain for all religion?
Just curious as to why you think they have all the correct info on what mormmons "really believe" but have it wrong when it comes to your religion?
Just curious as to why you have NEVER mentioned the nasty things Whitey-JoeB131-Eugene has said about God?
Im curious as to why you think the media, athiests,anarchists, facists, and gay leftist activists have it spot on about mormons, but not your religion?
Do they share your same values or something?
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still unable to justify the LDS desire to restore a failure I see. |
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Is there one true Church? If so which one?
If not, why did people turn away from the true church and create thousands?
If the true church is on the earth is it traditional Roman /Greek, protestant, non denominational?
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explain again how it makes sense that the LDS teach that the Church founded by Jesus failed and then turn around and teach that Joseph Smith restored the failed Church.
Why did God want to re-start a failed institution? |
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Synth thinks that Huck is a water walker, followed by the princess from the icey trundra. Not for their qualifiations were the voted for, but because they went to a certain type of church. Itg's actually kinda fun to call him/her/it on the carpet for his lies and half truths. Typical antimormon. Get the facts straight, and they have no 'facts'! Get it wrong, and you can mislead a bunch of paying guests to your way of thinking. Selling books is the issues for this lot. Not spreading the truth.
It would be a kick in the pants if the next team was Romney/Levett, right? All cults, all the time, putting theis country back in shape. |
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until hell freezes over before a Huckabigot will be able to defend huckaphony without bashing Romney or Mormons?
Is that because he is indefensible?
Still waiting!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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[Coulter on 16 January 2008]"I had no idea that Republican voters in Iowa and New Hampshire planned to do absolutely zero research on the candidates"
Concord Monitor: Romney is a phony
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=222b33a4-9a6e-4a6f-8a4 4-43c2fb31f842%40i72g2000hsd.googlegroups.com
When New Hampshire partisans are asked to
defend the state's first-in-the-nation primary, we talk
about our ability to see the candidates up close, ask
tough questions and see through the baloney. If a
candidate is a phony, we assure ourselves and the
rest of the world, we'll know it.
Mitt Romney is such a candidate. New Hampshire
Republicans and independents must vote no.
26 Dec. 2007. "The Romney backlash: Conservatives are coming home"
http://www.unionleader.com/article.aspx?headline=The+Romney +backlash%3a+Conservatives+are+coming+home&articleId=bc5bd6 0b-68a2-4427-93aa-d0fc2548ba3d
THERE IS A reason Mitt Romney has not received a single newspaper endorsement in New Hampshire. It's the same reason his poll numbers are dropping. He has not been able to convince the people of this state that he's the conservative he says he is.
Like a lot of people in New Hampshire, we wanted to believe Romney. We gave him the benefit of the doubt. We listened very carefully to his expertly rehearsed sales pitch. But in the end he didn't close the deal for us. Now, two weeks before the primary, the same is happening with voters.
Republicans and right-leaning independents in New Hampshire gave Romney a chance. His events have not been sparsely attended. Nor have they been scarce. He's made more campaign stops here this year than any other Republican, even John McCain.
And after a year of comparing Romney to McCain, of sizing up the two in person and in the media, Granite Staters are turning back to McCain.
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if ypu're so inclined because that information has been posted and posted and posted, and all you libs ignore it as much as you ignore the trash that has been posted against Romney, so what's the point? Get a different subject, lest you come off as a lefty loon. Oops! too late! |
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[my2centsplus on November 25, 2008 9:41 AM]"Facts are pesky things, right?"
Right.
Luo, Michael. 22 December 2007. "Romney Learns That 'Facts Are Stubborn Things'" _The New York Times_
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/22/us/politics/21cnd-romney. html?hp
Allott, Daniel. 20 December 2007. "Romney, get real about your abortion record"
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1207/7482.html
Stubborn Facts on Romney and Taxes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gm--MMW6iBI
Tammy Bruce: Romney's fantasies become reality to him: 2:00+
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMlHy-2Er1I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=up60e-ygalU
"Romney did not support gay marriage."
Did Romney support civil unions?
Wallsten, Peter. 25 March 2007. "Activists Remember a Different
Romney
Advocates for gay and abortion rights and the environment say the GOP
candidate misled them on his positions." _Los Angeles Times_
http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/03/25/78/
Romney for domestic partnership benefits-- 0:29
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1kyyM8QjZU
"the facts don't support your bigotory against anything LDS"
How do you know I have "bigotory against anything LDS"?
"including the support we gave to prop 8. (and didja know that Romney gave a huge chunk of cash to that prop?"
The Prop. 8 pro-marriage forces raised $39 million. Romney is a multi-millionaire. How much of the $39 million raised was Romney money? (if you answer '10k', I'd say, 10k from the multi-millionaire Romney is a pittance).
A few days after the '08 election, on his "Focus on the Family" radio broadcast, Dr. James Dobson thanked Mormons for knocking on doors, saying that Mormons were more energetic in the Prop. 8 effort than Catholics and Protestants. IIRC, Dobson said there are 17 million CA voters, and 3/4ths of them were contacted via the door-to-door efforts.
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http://townhall.com/columnists/AnnCoulter/2008/01/16/the_el ephant_in_the_room?page=full&comments=true
"I've been casually taking swipes at Mitt Romney for the past year based on the assumption that, in the end, Republicans would choose him as our nominee. My thinking was that Romney would be our nominee because he is manifestly the best candidate.
"I had no idea that Republican voters in Iowa and New Hampshire planned to do absolutely zero research on the candidates and vote on the basis of random impulses.
"Dear Republicans: Please do one-tenth as much research before casting a vote in a presidential election as you do before buying a new car.
"One clue that Romney is our strongest candidate is the fact that Democrats keep viciously attacking him while expressing their deep respect for Mike Huckabee and John McCain.
"This point was already extensively covered in Chapter 1 of "How To Talk to a Liberal (If You Must)": Never take advice from your political enemies.
"Turn on any cable news show right now, and you will see Democratic pundits attacking Romney, calling him a "flip-flopper," and heaping praise on McCain and Huckleberry -- almost as if they were reading some sort of "talking points."
"Doesn't that raise the tiniest suspicions in any of you?"
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"But for me there were just too many items where he wasn’t sufficiently conservative coupled with a lack of attention and experience on foreign affairs."
Still waiting for a huckabigot to start defending Huckaphony's liberal positions and actions WITHOUT bashing Romney or Mormons.
Still waiting!!!
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According to Fox News, LIED about taxes! Lest we forget.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68VCh2WkbHc
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[Gunlock Bill on November 25, 2008]"he is busy with his homosexual 'news' sources"
do a control - f/ "find" for: handle
http://trueromney.com
and see the _Bay Windows_ pic just below.
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[my2centsplus on November 25, 2008 12:31 AM]"give your anti-mormon bigtory a rest"
How do you know I have "anti-mormon bigtory"?
"We've heard it all before"
If you would, please answer this:
Do you agree with Coulter that Romney flipped on only one issue?
Coulter, Ann. 16 January 2008.
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/AnnCoulter/2008/01/16/th e_elephant_in_the_room?page=full&comments=true
I've looked and looked, and the only issue I can find
that Romney has "flipped" on is abortion.
remember punditry's malpractice this primary season
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.republicans/msg /a49836376d61bdc3
"I've been a member of the Chruch of JESUS CHRIST of Latter-day saints my whole life. Not once, have I been 'instructed' on how to be pro life, etc."
Have you ever been 'instructed' to be pro-traditional-marriage?
Do you dislike Romney's picking Stephen S. Abany?
Lewis, Raphael. 25 July 2005. _The Boston Globe_
http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2005/07/25/romney _jurist_picks_not_tilted_to_gop/
Romney, despite his opposition to same-sex
marriage, in May selected for a district court
judgeship Stephen S. Abany, a former board
member of the Massachusetts Lesbian and Gay Bar
Association who organized the group's opposition to
a 1999 bill to outlaw same-sex marriage.
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Romney's stellar judicial appointments
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=9380a1ac-650e-4e62-a8a 8-cc86e06ca2a1%40q77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com
Romney sought 'diversity' with court appointments
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=b321eb50-1b0c-4abc-8ef a-66b40fff3703%40e10g2000prf.googlegroups.com
Romney a shape-shifting political opportunist
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=38cebb6b-6493-49b3-857 4-9120f8a068c0%40s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com
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Don't bother Synthesizer now, he is busy with his homosexual "news" sources. |
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for a huckabigot to start defending Huckaphony's liberal positions and actions WITHOUT bashing Romney or Mormons.
Still waiting!!!
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Nice try but you just couldn't refrain from bashing Romney could you.
"The Arkansas Supreme Court mandated him to improve the schools of Arkansas,. . ."
But they didn't mandate that he raise taxes to do it now did they? And why didn't the hypocrite Huckaphony just ignore the State Supreme Court like he condemned Romney for not doing?
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/08/25/huckabee-romney-shoul d-have-ignored-the-massachusetts-supreme-courts-ruling-on-g ay-marriage/comment-page-2/#comments
My favorite part is this,“Note that Huckabee’s excuse for soliciting additional taxes — any additional tax schemes; they were all ‘all right by me,’ as he said — was that he was compelled by a state court decision to do so. (Actually, he wasn’t quite, but let’s pretend he was.)How come you didn’t just defy the courts yourself, Huck?”
And just a fun reminder of what the real Huckaphony is like, we have this memory.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pLOC4krZI4
So then Gary Bauer's concern with "His record on taxes and spending, . . . " is legitimate now isn't it.
Huckaphony's record on taxes and spending is NOT conservative but very liberal. And bashing Romney and Mormons WON'T CHANGE THAT!!! |
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Facts are pesky things, right? Romney did not support gay marriage. It was inacted by the Mass Courts. Romney (with that law degree he had) was smart enough to find an exisiting law in the books that prevented folks who did not have residency in the state, from marrying. Thus preventing Mass from becoming the Las Vegas equalivant for gay marriage.
I know, the facts don't support your bigotory against anything LDS, including the support we gave to prop 8. (and didja know that Romney gave a huge chunk of cash to that prop?. No? You did not know that? Now you do. How much did your hero huckles the clown give? I can say this in several languagues, but lets just settle with NADA. Zip. Zero. I guess support is relative. |
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21 Nov 2006. Ryan-Vollmar, Susan.
http://www.baywindows.com/index.php?ch=columnists&sc=the_ro mney_files
If I were a member of the VoteOnMarriage.org coalition or a signer of the anti-gay marriage petition..., I’d be furious with Gov. Mitt Romney today. I’d be wondering where he’s been the last two years on the marriage issue.
Imagine if Romney had held a rally on the State House steps before the Nov. 9 constitutional convention (ConCon) and thousands of people had shown up to loudly demand that lawmakers take a vote on the marriage amendment. Romney might have changed the outcome of the ConCon.
As we all know, lawmakers voted 109-87 to recess the ConCon until Jan. 2, 2007. There is a slim chance that lawmakers could vote on the measure then, but it’s extremely unlikely. Just about every observer of Beacon Hill politics believes that the amendment is dead. But right up until the morning of the ConCon, when pro-equality lawmakers and advocates sewed up enough votes to win a motion to recess the ConCon, the legislature could have gone the other way and voted to approve the amendment. The recess vote was a tough one for many lawmakers and it was a vote that the VoteOnMarriage.org side could have won. If, that is, the governor had actually been working with them.
In the last two years, Romney has spouted some over-the-top rhetoric about civil marriage rights for same-sex couples. He has claimed that such marriages harm children, that they diminish the marriages of heterosexual couples, that they mark the decline of tradition and order in society. You would think a man genuinely fearful for the health of marriage, a man who was actually in a position to do something about it, would do everything in his power to "defend" marriage. Think again. The only thing motivating this governor is personal ambition.
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give your anti-mormon bigtory a rest. We've heard it all before, and you dredge it up like it's all new and enlighting information. "They". I've been a member of the Chruch of JESUS CHRIST of Latter-day saints my whole life. Not once, have I been 'instructed' on how to be pro life, etc.
Pity you don't get it. Your so blinded by hate, you can't see the truth if it hit you in the face. |
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good luck, you are trying to reason with a LDS. |
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Mike Huckabee inherited over $200 million deficit when he became Governor of a Democratic state with a Democratic legislature. The Arkansas Supreme Court mandated him to improve the schools of Arkansas, (they were 49th in the U.S. at the time). Bill Clinton was the previous Gov. and he didn't improve Arkansas at all and left it in a mess for Mike Huckabee.
Gov. Huckabee got some taxes lowered (first in the state since the 1800's.) The roads were in terrible shape according to the truckers who went through the state. Now with no money, had to improve the schools, what would you have done? The only resources in that state were schools, infrastructure, and one other thing I can't remember. Did you think maybe he should have left the roads go (like Mitt Romney left the roads in Mass)? He cared about the people in Arkansas, so with their approval he raised some taxes, the state grew during his tenure which explains some of the spending he had to do. The schools were rated at #8 in the country last year. The roads were some of the best in the country according to truckers who go through Arkansas. Gov. Huckabee left over $850 million surplus when he left office.
He had a 65% approval rating this last September. Mitt Romney had a 70% disapproval rating.
If you think Mike Huckabee was a liberal, what do you call Mitt Romney??? I think maybe the Romneycare he started when he was Gov. of Mass which is the same program Hillary wanted for the U.S.A. is a very liberal and high spending program. The state of Mass almost went bankrupt because of that mandated healthcare program!!! The government just bailed out Mass...thanks Mitt. Oh yes, we can talk about gay marriage which came under Mitt's watch. Yes, the court ordered it, but Mitt didn't even try to fight it. He even told the judges if they didn't enforce gay marriage, they would be fired. A real social conservative, right!!!
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[Gunlock Bill]"Still waiting
for a huckabigot to start defending Huckaphony's liberal positions and actions without bashing Romney"
The Huckaphony liberal stoles conservative voters away from the Reagan-conservative Romney.
Those conservative supporters of Huckaphony are Huckaphonies (to use Mark Levin's phrasing-- yes, Levin did call Huckabee supporters Huckaphonies).
The ultra-conservative Romney was pro-life, then become pro-death for his Senate & Governor runs, then became pro-life for his Republican nomination run.
Oh, and Huckabee is a phony.
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0706/S00066.htm
Judy Dushku: In the early 90s, our feminist newspaper Exponent II, did a theme issue about Mormonism and abortion. X said she’d like to write a piece describing her experience. We agreed to publish her story anonymously because we knew her and knew about the ordeal.
Then in 1994, when Romney was running for the Senate, he came out in favor of choice for women -- which was surprising to me. I was pleased and called, asking to see him. I told him I suspected that we had our differences, but that maybe I could work with him if he’d come to a really good position on women and childbirth.
And he said – Yes, come to my office.
I went to his office and I congratulated him on taking a pro-choice position. And his response was – Well they told me in Salt Lake City I could take this position, and in fact I probably had to in order to win in a liberal state like Massachusetts.
Suzan Mazur: Who’s “THEY”?
Judy Dushku: I asked him the same question. And he said “the Brethren” in Salt Lake City.
And I said, Mitt, it doesn’t make me happy to hear that. What you’re suggesting is that you’re not genuinely pro-choice. It’s a position of convenience.
He said – Oh no, I actually had an aunt who died of a botched abortion. So I have some positive feelings about choice, but basically I know that I have to take that position.
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you keep on believeing that Jesus started a failure and Joseph Smith was told to restart that failed model; if it makes you feel warm inside.
Me, I will stick with logic and reason and the rational.
It is beyond me why God would want to restart something that failed the first time, but I know it makes sense to you. That is why I say you are bereft of the use of reason in this area. |
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At the risk of taxing your intelligence, I'll grab this one...
Ok, let's just say that the church did not need to be restored. Where is that church that Christ established? Where are the apostles, prophets? What about the priesthood He established? Where is this church, if it was here all this time? It could be the CAtholic church, if anything. That would mean all the other churches are WRONG, eh? So, since the Catholic church has been around the longest, it must be the one Christ established. Right? That would lead me to the conclusion that you, dear eddietoo are a member of a false church - a cult, if I may. |
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the LDS are incapable of forming rational arguments. If it were otherwise, they would not be LDS. |
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for a huckabigot to start defending Huckaphony's liberal positions and actions without bashing Romney or Mormons.
Still waiting!!!
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there is no need to defend any of Governor Huckabee's positions since they are correct.
Also, the LDS can said Jesus is Savior all they want. I will believe them when they stop saying the Church He founded failed and needed to be restored by Joseph Smith.
The LDS want credit for being Christian while at the same time they are saying Jesus' Church was a failure and needed rescuing by Joseph Smith.
Maybe you can worship a failure, I do not have to because my Savior did not fail.
The LDS want to baptize the dead so they get to heaven, but there is no way they can baptize all of the dead who lived and died after their so-called "Great Apostasy. The LDS justify baptizing the dead because they do not want anyone to go to hell but they say that knowing that they will never identify millions and millions of soul who have lived and died since the so-called and imaginary "Great Apostasy".
The only requirement to be a LDS is to forsake the use of reason. You are proof of that because you cannot even understand the point I am making.
The LDS believe they are restoring the church that Jesus started. How pathetic is that? They want to restore something that did not work the first time. Who other than someone bereft of the use of reason would want to restore a failed institution? |
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for a huckabigot to start defending Huckaphony's liberal positions and actions without bashing Romney or Mormons.
Still waiting!!!
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"Huckaphony (TM Mark Levin, aka the Great One)"
Fournier, Deacon Keith. 1/26/2008. "Let Huckabee Speak, Let Huckabee Run… and check his pockets" _Catholic Online_
http://www.catholic.org/national/national_story.php?id=2659 1
Huckabee’s manner and his message, when he is allowed to speak, strike a chord with many people from a broad spectrum of increasingly disillusioned voters. Because of that, the elites try to marginalize him through condescension, like Krauthammer did.
Or, worse yet, they unleash vitriol against him, such as what Mark Levin stooped to in his Thursday talk radio program when he made himself small by crude remarks against this good man.
Lawyers, Leaders and Activists Issue Warning to Voters:
“Conservative Elites” Covering Up Romney’s Betrayals on Marriage, Life, Children and Constitution.
http://www.cpoma.org/blog/?p=147
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Romney owes talk radio debt of gratitude
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.republicans/msg /f66e6dad0487ed0f
similarities between Romney & McCain
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=04d513a3-77c4-415f-a02 b-3294ad637f0f%40k39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com
Huckabee vs. Romney
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.republicans/msg /b8874f14563f4df0
Romney is a big liar!
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.republicans/msg /798c5314480d0328
parallels between Romney & McCain
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.republicans/msg /54cdb6153accd49a
remember punditry's malpractice this primary season
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.republicans/msg /a49836376d61bdc3
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"Huckaphony"
Underbelly. 17 December 2007. The Huckabee Panic: A Footnote
http://underbelly-buce.blogspot.com/2007/12/huckabee-panic- footnote.html
Carpetbagger has a typically thorough and astute
"literature review" up, summarizing the right's
conniption fit over Mike Huckabee (link), but let me
add a footnote: I think it shows just how phony this
whole "conservative coalition" really is. The GOP
establishment is perfectly willing to give away the
store on throwaway issues (!) like abortion and
school prayer. But when a genuine, true-blue, take-
no-prisoners evangelical joins the race, their small
intestines turn to water. I don't feel any special
sympathy for the evangelical leadership who have
played the logrolling game as cynically as anybody.
But if I were a mainline working-stuff born-again, I'd
be feeling used & abused right now, wondering who
my real friends are.
Perhaps Tedious Explanatory Footnote: The
establishment has been willing to give away the
store on abortion and school prayer because they
know neither will ever affect them personally--the
pro-life movement is about denying abortions to
poor women, not to the daughters of the elite, and
you can perfectly well opt out of school prayer by
sending your kid to the right kind of private school.
Gay marriage is, I admit, a tougher nut to crack: the
establishment knows that the establishment couldn't
get off its dime without the tweendecks
infrastructure of conservative gays. My guess is that
they've been gambling on the proposition that the
issue will pass; that we are pretty close to realizing
that they're here, they're qu**r, and we might as
well deal with it. I remember what my old girlfriend
used to say about the Virgin Mary: oy, happens in
the best Jewish families.
17 December 2007. The 'Huckabee Panic' revisited
http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/13955.html
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IF "I will defend anything he ever said or did" means just that, then get after it.
Instead of whining (like huckaphony TM Mark Levin) about Romney or Mormons, start defending Huckabee's positions and actions, IF YOU CAN!!!
I AM STILL WAITING!!!
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convince us that you are a biblical scholar, why don't you enlighten us all with your version of the truth - according to CFL??
And ya know, ignorance is a state of mind, as is arrogance and conceitedness of which you possess an abnormally large amount.
I have said many times that I don't attend any church, never said I was a biblical scholar, never said I knew that much about the bible at all, mostly said I believe that the most important thing we can do is believe in God and the son Jesus and do right by our fellow man; but you arrogant, pigheaded sonofajerk, have to show your superiority, (or so you think) on the subject of the bible, so put your holier-than-thou mouth where your arrogance is and let's hear it dude! If you want to tout your proficiency of the bible, do so by putting up ..... or shutting up! |
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To be honest, I really didn't want to get into a detailed discussion with what you know about The Bible and it historicity because i don't have the very few moments it would take you to have an intelligent conversation.
I think you have sufficiently shown your own laughable lack of knowledge about the historicity of The Bible. But fret not, you are not alone in your ignorance.
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To be honest, I really didn't want to get into a detailed discussion with what you know about The Bible and it historicity because i don't have the very few moments it would take you to have an intelligent conversation.
I think you have sufficiently shown your own laughable lack of knowledge about the historicity of The Bible. But fret not, you are not alone in your ignorance.
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My statement "I will defend anything he ever said or did" means just that. Do you actually think I believe you're important enought to go to the trouble of listing ALL his accomplishments? There isn't room enough on the whole site!!!!
Need some salt and pepper with that crow? |
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Please feel free to start at any time. OK! |
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I will defend anything and everything Huckabee ever said or did. Good enough for ya? |
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"It wasn’t just that he didn’t get it on foreign policy. His record on taxes and spending, illegal immigration, his apparent backing of Al Gore's carbon cap and trade scheme, support for voting rights for Washington, D.C., and cozying up to unions like the NEA all worried me."
Ok Huckabigots!!!
Start defending!!! |
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Still waiting for the Huckabigots to stop bashing Romney or the Mormons and start defending Huckaphony (TM Mark Levin, aka the Great One).
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[Gunlock Bill]"Still waiting
for the huckabigots to stop bashing Romney"
Do you like Gov. Romney's appointments?
Jacobs, Ethan. 3 March 2005.
http://www.baywindows.com/index.php?ch=columnists&sc=the_ro mney_files
Romney also continued Weld’s tradition of appointing openly gay people to key positions in his administration. One of his first cabinet appointments was Daniel Grabauskas, who Romney chose to serve in his cabinet as secretary of the Executive Office of Transportation and Construction.
The new governor’s transition team also included several openly gay people, including Grabauskas, former lieutenant governor candidate and current president of the national Log Cabin Republicans Patrick Guerriero, and former Mass. Log Cabin president Mark Goshko.
Other gay Romney appointees include John Wagner, commissioner of the state welfare department, Mitchell Adams, executive director of the Massachusetts Technology Collaborative, and Jonathan Spampinato, a member of Romney’s Diversity and Equal Opportunity Council. Two out lesbian appointees were fired by the governor shortly after getting legally married to their same-sex partners: Ardith Wieworka, former commissioner of Child Care Services, who was let go last summer, and Katherine Abbott, former commissioner of the Department of Conservation and Recreation, who was asked to resign last month after her department was blamed for not adequately clearing sidewalks
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He [Romney] offered political and financial support to two openly gay Republican candidates for state representative in 2004, Richard Babson in the Eighth Suffolk District and Michael Motzkin of the Ninth Essex District, who both lost. Both candidates were promoted as part of the Romney Reform Team.
Romney judges
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=9380a1ac-650e-4e62-a8a 8-cc86e06ca2a1%40q77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com
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for the huckabigots to stop bashing Romney or the Mormons and start defending Huckabee.
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your argument is ridiculous! And as I don't read the bible all that much, I won't even consider going into detail with you. You have your mind made up as I do and this subject is closed with me. Believe as you will, because.... the blind will lead the blind. |
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Mormons are a laughing stock to many Americans!
I never really thought much about the Mormon religion until I read a few hundred posts by you Mormons. Now, I can see that you all are very sick indeed, and your stupid rants just serve to give your religion a bad name!! |
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Laura: I will try to write this more slowly so you can understand. Which KJV do you use as there have been many editions and numerous changes from the original?
If the KJV Bible is THE only word of God, then I guess we should all get on the same wagon and all have the same only word of God. Therefore, which version of KJV should we accept?
White Salamander:
How can you prove or disprove whether or not Joseph Smith had visions, received revelations, and saw God. All of that is in the realm of faith and belief. One of the basic things historians and other scholars learn is you can neither prove nor disprove the things dealing with visions, etc.
So, since you are so adament that Joseph Smith made it all up, I'm waiting to see the primary documents to prove such an assertion. Please don't cite secondary sources -- I've seen them (for that matter, i've seen most of the primary documents). Now, all knowing salamander (love the name by the way), do please make your case as there are 13+ million people who are awaiting with baited breath.
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did actually mean his remarks as a joke, unlike some of the remarks I've heard that were dead serious. (No pun intended.) My cousin knows the nephew of one of the stage hands who threw it at Huckabee right as he was going on stage, and it wasn't thought out long enough - and yes he has admitted it may have been in poor taste; but for you self-righteous prude Mormons to tear him apart over that constantly shows your small minded pettiness and ignorance. A joke is a joke!
All of you who hate Huckabee are bigoted fools who have helped elect a communist who is going to ruin our country. Thanks for nothing, ignoramous! |
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You must not read the posts very thoroughly because my2cents and several others just have
TO BASH HUCKABEE 'ANY TIME' HIS NAME IS MENTIONED!
The posts concerninbg him, Palin or Romney are the ones they post replies to 99% of the time, as if they were possessed with that subject alone.
I get sick of the name calling and take up for Huckabee because I feel that the Mormon's on here are mainly riduculously stupid and poor losers because Huckabee might have had something to do with Romney 'not' being able to "BUY" the nomination. He did spend about 20 times more money than Huckabee if you'll remember, and after dipping into his own fortune and getting nowhere, he caved and took the cowards way out by leaving the race.
Having said that, I must also say that I do not go around calling Romney insulting names as they do Huckabee because he "helped to keep Huckabee out of the race as well." I think the insulting name calling is small, petty, mean-spirited and anti-christian. I find most of the Mormons on here to be self-righteous, holier-than-thou bigots themselves, and post more insulting posts than anyone else I can think of - and it gets dammed old, and just too hard to ignore.
No one religion is perfect and no one religion is the "Only one" as 2 cents has said. All it takes to garner God's approval is faith in him, the love of Jesus as our savior, and doing the right thing toward your fellow man. God does not care WHICH church you go to, if any. And I'm certain he doesn't have any favorites. |
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Gary Bauer is NOT a Mormon.
Get it? |
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I use. I know there are many books of the bible and actually many different bibles, just one more reason I didn't think we needed a "Joseph Smith version too." |
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I'm glad all we need is The Bible. Now, if you would be so kind as to let me know which Bible?
Would that be the Vulgate, Douay, or perhaps the King James version. If it is the King James version, could you please tell me which edition given the fact there were changes (some quite significant in text and meaning) made several different times during King James I's reign and a number of changes made since that time.
But since The Bible is all we need, I'm sure you can enlighten me as to exactly which Bible.
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those who blindly support Huckabee always bring up Romney (or his religion) instead of defending Huckabee?
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Until the Church was restored, brought back to earth, and the bible is all we had. LDS believe in the bible. So many churches teach from the bible, and interpert the same passage of scriptures differntly. We teach and preach from the Bible. But, the 'second wittness' of Christ is the Book of Mormon. Why are you so afraid of a church that teaches, preaches about Christ, and wants to be more christlike? It baffles me. It's OK to be a religion that shoots off another that shoots off another and so on, as the Baptists are and others. But to be Mormon? Oh geeze, no way! Our doctrines are different, and some are the same as the other churches. I do respect anyone who calls themselves a Christian. But being something other than LDS for me, just makes no sense. |
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My kids learn about Joseph Smith, Brigham Young (an ancestor of mine), Thomas S. Monson and other prophets of God, including Moses, Abraham and such, at chruch and at home. They go to school to learn about the world. They go to chruch to learn about God. And 70? Good on ya! My mom is 73, and is still moving strong and sure. |
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Clue,
What I posted was from the Book of Mormon.
If the Bible is all we need, then why are there so many different churches that believe in it, yet believe different things?
ed2,
You are presenting a dichotomy where none exist. They call that a FALSE dichotomy. But nice try. |
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the only thing wrong is that Smith tried to add his own crap into it with the Book Of Mormon. |
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I am 70 years old and my time is ALL my own. And yes, I know about school, back when I went they taught us about GOD - NOT Joseph Smith! |
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doesn't mention one word about Joseph Smith....hmmm, curious! Oh and it doesn't mention anything about a religion where the people should have another God to worship other than... GOD! And you people seem to like to give him so much credit for things that had already been done, ie, the bible!
What you Mormons need to realize is that the people DID NOT NEED ANOTHER BOOK! The bible WAS all, and IS all we will ever need.
Smith's book, (The book of Mormon) was just so he could impose some of HIS OWN bullcrap beliefs into 'The Bible' so he would be able to control lots of people with his own brand of religion. He was a control freak!
Why do you all talk about what the bible says over and over in presenting your case, and then mention Smith as if HE were the one who wrote the whole dammn thing? Why couldn't you just be satisfied with what the original "Holy Bible says?
I think it's because you needed another golden calf; God was not enough for you, so now that you have Smith to bolster the meanings of the original book, you're happy. I think you're all a bunch of loony tunes cultists who wouldn't know Jesus if he knocked on your door right now.
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It's called 'time management'. My kids are all off to school. You know that place, I'm sure. I only have my little preschooler home, and she'll be off in a few to her little class (2 free hours!!) And you'll notice, you are on here much, much more than I am. And you might want to note times I am on. Right now, it's a bit before 9am. I come on, read the latest 'gossip' and if I feel so inclined, I post. otherwise, I move on. Now, I am moving on. It's time for preschool. |
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Joseph Smith was not necessary for the teachings you quoted to be known. They have been known consistently since the Resurrection of the Lord.
There was nothing new in the words you quoted.
Joseph Smith, if you are hanging your hat on the above quotations, provided nothing new to the world. His writings and teachings are meaningless.
Now, I know you do not believe that. Logically, if Joseph Smith added nothing to the Lord's teachings and sacrifice, then Joseph Smith's writings and teachings are meaningless.
Logically, if Joseph Smith's teachings and writings are necessary to know the true message of the Lord, than if it were not for the writings/teachings of Joseph Smith no one could be saved. Joseph Smith even saved the efforts of Jesus to offer salvation to mankind. According to the LDS, without Joseph Smith all born after the time of the so-called "Great Apostasy" would be damned.
Of course, logic has never persuaded anyone who has surrendered the use of reason.
The LDS on one hand say salvation is available only through the efforts of the Lord and on the other hand say the teachings of Joseph Smith are necessary to know the true teachings of the Lord. These are diametrically opposed teachings. You cannot logically believe both. They are opposites. They are contradictions. Both cannot be true.
Laura, I never recognize the comments of 2cents. She long ago forsook the use of reason. I try not to encourage her infantile meanderings by acknowledging them. |
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If you're so happy and content why do you find it necessary to pull yourself away from those adorable kids and come on here to argue with us anti-christian, anti-mormon Bigots? |
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Beating a dead horse on that one. His birt cert is offical and valid. His name was printed in hawaiian papers in the week of this birth. You all need to accept it that Obama won. I'll not be signing this idot petition. It a waste of time and talents. |
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As usual, those who claim to know what the LDS believe, get it WRONG!!
2 Ne. 2:8 Wherefore, how great the importance to make these things known unto the inhabitants of the earth, that they may know that there is no flesh that can dwell in the presence of God, save it be through the merits, and mercy, and grace of the Holy Messiah, who layeth down his life according to the flesh, and taketh it again by the power of the Spirit, that he may bring to pass the resurrection of the dead, being the first that should rise.
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Alma 22:14 And since man had fallen he could not merit anything of himself; but the sufferings and death of Christ atone for their sins, through faith and repentance, and so forth; and that he breaketh the bands of death, that the grave shall have no victory, and that the sting of death should be swallowed up in the hopes of glory; . . .
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If you scroll down, you will find that White Sally (also known as Eugene) is the one who brought up my children. I corrected him. And yes, I have forgiven the birth parents of my children. And I'm teaching them to do the the same. It's not their fault (the kids). I do forige. Just as I have forgivin you for your ill informaed and nasty comments directed towards me.
I pray for all of you too. I do pray that you have cousins somewhere out there who love your ancestors enough to do the work needed. My daughter was baptised for her great great grandmother. I'm named after her. My daughter has that name as well. It was very special for me, to have this beautiful, virtuous young lady baptised for a grandmother she has never met in this life. In particular, since this daughter was brought into our family and adopted into it. It was like completing the circle of inclusion for her and for the family. It was as if my great grandmother put her arms around my sweet daughter and told her thank you. You may call that arrogrance if you wish. I'll simply call it special. And sorry that not everyone can take in the sweetness of that moment shared with my brothers, sisters, neices and nephews in the House of the Lord. I ansered Whitesally. My life is wonderful, busy and full of joy and some hardships. For this life. For my family. For my wonderful, honorable and totally awesome eternal husband, I am thankful. For the Children I have been blessed with, I am thankful. For my brothers and sisters, neices and nephews and all others who include me in 'Family', I am thankful. Especially, I am thankful for the faith that gives me hope that this family that I love so much, will be with me, and I with them, through eternity. Call it arrogrant. I call it hope. |
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about Obama that you posted above -FRIGHTENING doesn't come close!! Everyone should see this, and all who voted for him should have to wonder what the hell they were thinking! |
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Mr. Beam,
Thank you for once again showing the narrow-minded anti-Mormonism that attacks and has no concrete foundation. Sir, read historical sources (yes, you can find plenty of non-Mormon scholars who would say the same thing -- they may not believe in the practice but they at least acknowledge it was a belief among early Christians).
Secondly, how does it feel to be god? Thank you for making a blanket judgement that all Mormons are not Christians. I may not agree with other Christian denominations but I would never try to judge whether or not they really are Christians. That is up to God and I will, therefore, take at face value (based upon their claims and actions/way of living) that they are Christians.
eddie too:
If Huckabee (who I originally felt I coould happily support)and his followers (by their innuendos, attack words and actions) represent true Christians while the rest of us are heathens, perhaps I am not a Christian and I certainly have no desire to attach myself to their brand of Christianity.
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because....you need a few lessons in humility. You seem to have a burning need to tout all your good deeds concerning the kids you adopted quite often in your posts. Shouldn't it be enough for you to know what you do, and not have to publish it constantly so everyone else will know too?
And you also need a good prayer said for you because you have obviously have no forgiveness in your heart for anyone other than another Mormon or the horrible people who abused your children.
That sounds a little strange to me, as I thought we were supposed to forgive ALL mankind, as Jesus told us to do. That seems to be a small factor you can so easliy overlook. |
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for the LDS salvation comes only through the teachings of Joseph Smith, what more does someone who believes that salvation is ONLY through Jesus Christ need to know to evaluate the LDS.
If it were not for the writings/teachings of Joseph Smith no one could be saved. Joseph Smith even saved the efforts of Jesus to offer salvation to mankind. According to the LDS, without Joseph Smith all born after the time of the so-called "Great Apostasy" would be damned. |
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to try and turn Townhall in to the same.
Any time someone views Governor Huckabee's record with objectivity and not prejudice they become Huckabee supporters.
That is the difference between Huckabee supporterrs and those of other candidates. Huck's supporters remain faithful and are growing. He does not lose support.
Eat your hearts out anti-Christian bigots. |
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the express purpose of dying for our sins. Mere present-day mortals are not that important or special.
I can not believe that one person can be baptised for the sins of another because....
how many people which the Mormons pray for each day do you think there are who have never heard the word of God and didn't know they were sinning?
If everything thought that they could go out and sin all they want and someone would be baptised fro them after they died so they wouldn't go to hell, what then would be the reason for anyone to try and NOT sin? Just doesn't make sense to me.
We do not live in the times of Jesus, and are not expected to adhere to all the laws of the land of that time.
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President Bush,
gave McCain a chance to distance himself from,
Obama,Reid,Polsi,even President Bush.
by going against the bailout,
and McCain didnt take advantage of it,
if he did,
McCain would be,
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October 28, 2008
http://townhall.com/blog/g/05b2dfac-f587-49a4-975a-effe40cf 2557
Former Romney Spokesman Kevin Madden was particularly harsh on Palin in an interview on CNN. His criticism of Palin is especially noteworthy because we're only days from the election.
In a spot with Campbell Brown Madden said Palin's wardrobe flap showed how "unseasoned" Palin is.
BROWN: And, Kevin, even defending this whole controversy over the clothes, the RNC buying all the clothing, it keeps the story going, and, as Dana pointed out, one more day where it's dominating the coverage.
KEVIN MADDEN, FORMER ROMNEY CAMPAIGN NATIONAL PRESS SECRETARY: Yes. And that's an indication just how unseasoned Sarah Palin is as a national candidate.
Ordinarily, somebody who knows that this is something that you're trying to get to a subterranean level, that you don't want to dominate the narrative for yet another news cycle, would make sure that they don't mention that, and, instead, they focus with a certain rigidity on the message of the day, because that's exactly what a V.P. is supposed to do.
Madden went on to say this is why McCain should have picked someone to be VP who has been a governor "for a long time." (Um, who would that be...?)
MADDEN: Look, that is why people who have done this before, people who have run national campaigns, always tend to look at prospective V.P. candidates, and they're the ones that are nationally vetted, the ones that have been governors on the scene for a long time, the ones that have been -- gone through the scrutiny of the national press corps in Washington. And that's exactly what has happened here, is that, when you put out an unknown and you give them 70 days with which to go through a vetting process, both by voters and the national press corps, ugly things can tend to happen.[Transcript HERE]]. |
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[Salvatore]"we all like Palin... Huckabee... we might like one better then the other, but we are not going to trash any one of them"
Are pro-Romney people above trashing Palin?
Post-Defeat Planners
By The Prowler on 10.27.08 @ 6:11AM
http://www.spectator.org/archives/2008/10/27/post-defeat-pl anners/print
ROMNEY ANTI-PALIN
"Sarah Palin is a lightweight, she won't be the first, not even the third, person people will think of when it comes to 2012," says one former Romney aide, now working for McCain-Palin. "The only serious candidate ready to challenge to lead the Republican Party is Mitt Romney. He's in charge on November 5th."
Romney has kept a low profile nationally since being denied the vice presidential nomination. He is currently traveling for the National Republican Congressional Committee in support of some House members, and has attended events for a handful of other House members who have sought his support, but he has traveled little for the McCain-Palin ticket. "He said the only time he'd travel for us is if we assured him that national cameras would be there," says a McCain campaign communications aide. "He's traveled to Nevada and a couple other states for us. That's about it."
Should McCain-Palin not win next week, Romney is expected to mount another presidential run, though it isn't clear that he has handled himself particularly well since losing the nomination. He failed to support or espouse conservative positions on the economic bailout bill in an effective or meaningful way, and he has turned down opportunities to endorse and work for conservative candidates in House or Senate seats unless they were assured of winning.
The most glaring oversight was Romney's refusal to do a phone recording for Massachusetts Republican Jeff Beatty, who is challenging Sen. John Kerry.
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[White Salamander on November 23, 2008 3:28 AM]"They guys who are now insisting on a $700 billion bailout because they screwed the pooch so badly.
Had the GOP listened to Huck and cut ties with these fools, it certainly wouldn't have taken the shellacking it took three weeks ago."
Huckabee did indeed oppose the bailout. McCain would have won had he opposed the bailout pushed by Bush & the Dems.
"You see, the funny thing is, Huck is like the guy who yells 'The Emperor has no clothes'. He pointed out that every year, the GOP scares Christians into voting against their own economic interests by dragging out gays, guns, abortion and a bunch of wedge issues that they forget about five minutes after the election is over."
Edsall, Thomas B. 21 December 2007. "The Huckabee Revolution: Evangelicals At The GOP Gate" The Huffington Post
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/12/21/the-huckabee-revol ution-_n_77961.html
Huffington, Arianna. 17 December 2007. "Huckabee: The GOP's Cynical Use of Religion Has Come Home to Roost"
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/arianna-huffington/huckabee-t he-gops-cynic_b_77165.html
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Like I said before,
to many Liberals on here,
making you think,
they are conservatives against conservatives.
we all like
Palin,Romney,Rudy,Huckabee,Jindal,Pawlenty,Crist,Thomspon,Steele,
we might like one better then the other,
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[AmericanWoman on Nov 23, 2008 6:22 PM]"This isn't about Romney
Synthesizer. Fyi"
This is:
[AmericanWoman on Nov 18, 2008 12:27 PM]"He is not honest
and that's what we don't like about him."
Is Romney honest?
York Byron. 26 November 2007.
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=OTBiOTQ1N2I1NWYxNT ZkNGNhMmZkNGUzZjg4MmViNDE=
A scathing attack on Mitt Romney today from Jim Rappaport, the former head of the Massachusetts Republican party who just held a conference call with reporters to announce his endorsement of Rudy Giuliani. Rappaport praised Giuliani's record in New York and said Romney "has a strong record of showmanship as opposed to actual performance."
Discussing Romney's relationship with the Massachusetts state legislature, Rappaport said of the former governor, "His word is no good…Mitt Romney would say one thing in a meeting and literally go out of the meeting to the press and tell the opposite story. There was no desire in the legislature to be accommodating to him because they couldn't trust him." Romney, Rappaport continued, "will be clear today on what he believes today, and he'll be clear tomorrow on what he believes tomorrow, but they may be different things."
30 June 2007.
http://www.boston.com/news/politics/2008/specials/romney/ar ticles/part7_main?mode=PF
At first, Romney voiced no objections to the fee, which some conservatives saw as a new tax. But in an April 11 op-ed article in The Wall Street Journal, Romney said he would take ''corrective action.''
Democrats who were invited to Romney's bill-signing extravaganza the next day at Faneuil Hall felt betrayed, furious that Romney had vetoed the ''employer assessment'' and seven other sections of the 145-page bill.
Romney is a big liar!
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.republicans/msg /798c5314480d0328
Romney claims NRA endorsement-- again
http://race42008.com/2008/02/03/romney-flips-on-guns/
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Palin has no place in national politics. Beauty will fade, but brains are forever. She lacks the brains part.
Whitesally and Laura. Free will is very important in our church. EVERYONE has the choice. Now, in the next life, if these ancestors wish to accept the baptisms and the other ordancences that will be done in the next few months for them, it's up to them. I pray your ancesotrs have someone in their family trees that love them enough to do this work for them.
And Whitesally. I did much to convince child welfare to give me crack babies. I went through months of classes, investigations and a background checks. More than you need when you give birth. I had (until adoptions) regular home visits with caseworkers. I had to take kids to jails to visit birthparents who raped them. I have had to stay up nights with 18 month olds, bringing them off Crack and Meth. we deal daily with the effects of these little ones past. We have a team of therapists, bone specialists, speech therapists, etc that help us daily. And yes, each Sunday, these little ones are at the local ward, learning. Each Monday night, they enjoy FHE. My 7 yr old is giving the lesson tonight on 'Thanksgiving' and my kids will be doing a little pilgram play they came up with. Every day, we read scriptures - all the scriptures. My kids have lived on the streets with homeless parents who were on drugs. (and still are). My kids have been pim'ped out to others at the age of 5 and six. Am I a maryter. No. I'm a mom. And with that calling comes responsiblities. To get where my family today was a long road, and not just doing a bristol.
I do feel sorry for Janet. I enjoy a wonderful marriage to a really awesome man. She's got a bitter old pill in her home.
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Palin/Romney or Romney/Palin
Huckabee, Sec of State
Rudy, Attorney General
Fred Thomspon, amb to the United Nation,
[so he can tell them where to go],
Micheal Steele head of RNC,
[so he can tell a few politicians where to go]
John Boehnor M leader,
would this make everyone happy,
for 2012 |
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who interpet scripture in that manner are mormons , mormons ,not being christians,this understandable what has always amazed me about your cult is it's members ability to believe that a convicted occultist, and noted adulterer like joseph smith was really a prophet. boggles the mind |
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Palin/Romney or Romney/Palin
Huckabee, Sec of State
Rudy, Attorney General
Fred Thomspon, amb to the United Nation,
[so he can tell them where to go],
Micheal Steele head of RNC,
John Boehnor M leader,
would this make everyone happy,
for 2012 |
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Palin/Romney or Romney/Palin
Huckabee, Sec of State
Rudy, Attorney General
Fred Thomspon, amb to the United Nation,
Micheal Steele head of RNC,
John Boehnor M leader,
would this make everyone happy,
for 2012 |
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Two things Mr. Beam.
First, you are incorrect about the scripture passage being taken out of context. If you discount paul's reference to baptism for the dead then you would be saying that Paul did not believe in the resurrection as he made reference to baptism for the dead as a support in the belief in the resurrection. Furthermore, that was a practice accepted by a number of early Chrsitian congregation and was not considered to be a pagan practice until a couple of hundred years after Christ's death and resurrection. perhaps you should study the history of the early church a little more before commenting.
Second, thank you for demonstrating the continued anti-Mormon/anti-religious bigotry that some in the GOP have.
Soit sage. |
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your scripure is misquoted and out of context ,baptising the dead is mentioned once in the new testament ,it was a pagan practice and is not to be used by the church . the one scripture is corinthians 15/ 29 |
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were done in the BIBLE.
So, it's not a new thing. |
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It's anti-Mormon bozos like White Salamander who have a kindergartner's understanding of Mormon doctrine and history and boat-load full of anti-religious bigotry that are giving the GOP a bad name and hurting our party.
A new book out titled, "A Different God? Mitt Romney, the Religious Right and the Mormon Question" goes into detail about the anti-Mormon and even anti-religious bigotry the Romney campaign faced. It's a fun and interesting read! |
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White Snake writes:
http://www.realchange.org/bauer.htm
And he's got the nerve to criticize Huckabee?
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http://www.realchange.org/huckabee.htm
Yup!
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Laura said:
Do you REALLY, seriously believe that a living Mormon can be baptised for the sins of another who has died and passed on? If so, that is worse than a cult - it is stupidity beyond imagination.
Really, how stupid is that, to think that another person can be proxy in a baptism. I mean, that type of cultic imagination would never be found in the true gospel of Jesus Christ. I mean, after all, we each have to pay for our own sins right? Christ could never atone for them, or take them upon himself for us? Proxy indeed.
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Huckabee is a nice man....................................................................................for me to poop on!!!!!!! |
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We are talking about Huckabee because he just released his book. Not because anyone is looking to him for leadership.
I think if you look at his strong supporters they do have a religous zeal for their man. But there is no broad approving consensus in the party as a whole. Far from deep as you mention. And never will be. I think it is interesting how playing to identity, campaigning to those who look, act, or worship like you do, relegates those you favor to the fringes. All the talk now is what happens to the social conservatives who would bolt the GOP in a minute if Huckabee asked them to. Does the party even need them, do they even need the party? No one would even be thinking that way if Huckabee hadn't carved them out and put them outside of the mainstream. He did them no favors in the GOP.
Broadening one's appeal can build one's power base. But Huckabee has not broadened his appeal. Instead he continues to pander to the southern faithful and criticize everyone else. He is burning more bridges than he is building and it will be nearly impossible to put together a coalition of support for him in the future. |
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I guess only you can put them in context.
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Pride says that "I" can fix the problem. Pride says says that "I" am the solution. Pride says "I" have the answers.
Scripture (which Rev. Huckabee preaches) tell us that the solution is to humble ourselves, and pray, and seek His face, and turn from our wicked ways. . . . .then He will hear from heaven and Heal our land.
Does anyone not understand that our land is in need of a touch from the great physician? |
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Scriptures ALL out of context!!!! |
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What kind of religion preaches that those who have died without hearing of Christ's gospel should be eternally damned?
Do you really believe that Christ is partial? That those who have not even heard of Him or His gospel should endure eternal damnation?
Where is that taught?
Ill tell you where salvation of the dead is taught.
Isa. 24: 22 in the prison, and after many days shall they be visited.
Isa. 42: 7 bring out the prisoners from the prison.
Isa. 49: 9 (1 Ne. 21: 9) say to the prisoners, Go forth.
Isa. 61: 1 (Luke 4: 18) proclaim liberty to the captives.
Obad. 1: 21 saviours shall come up on mount Zion.
Zech. 9: 11 sent forth thy prisoners out of the pit.
Mal. 4: 6 (Luke 1: 17; 3 Ne. 25: 6; D&C 2: 2; D&C 110: 15; JS-H 1: 39) turn . . . the heart of the children to their fathers.
Matt. 16: 19 (D&C 128: 8) bind on earth shall be bound in heaven.
Luke 4: 18 preach deliverance to the captives.
John 5: 25 dead shall hear the voice of the Son.
Rom. 14: 9 Lord both of the dead and living.
1 Cor. 15: 19 if in this life only we have hope in Christ.
1 Cor. 15: 29 why are they then baptized for the dead.
Heb. 11: 40 (D&C 128: 15) that they without us should not be made perfect.
1 Pet. 3: 19 preached unto the spirits in prison.
1 Pet. 4: 6 gospel preached also to them that are dead.
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what a joke! And then you will mock and ridicule the living with no room in you heart for forgiveness as the bible clearly indicates we should do. What kind of religion is that?
And what ever happened to people having free will on earth and being responsible for themselves and their own action? Do you REALLY, seriously believe that a living Mormon can be baptised for the sins of another who has died and passed on? If so, that is worse than a cult - it is stupidity beyond imagination. |
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Notice that you bring up Mitt Romney when you should be defending Huck's record.
After all, it was Huck's policies that that scared Bauer. If Bauer is scum as you claim, still Huck was after his vote.
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hate to point out the obvious,we would not be discussing huckabee if he was no longer a viable canidate. huckabee has a very strong and deep base inspite of has beens like gary bauer and the chattering classes here on townhall taking shots at him .
mtngrl baptising the dead? don't they come apart when you immerse them ,sounds a little nasty and very disgusting . |
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Combined with all the errors described by Gary Bauer and more (1000 pardons, communtations, etc), identity politics removed many would-be supporters. Huckabee carved out segment of Republicans based on personal identity, most were conservative southern faithful evangelicals. He shamed them into supporting him saying if they didn't it would have a "chilling effect."
When he did that, he made himself look like a narrow-minded, one-note former pastor and alienated the temperate middle and the fiscal and foreign policy conservatives. He has labeled himself an evangelical social conservative now by playing primarily to those just like him that I believe he has lost his appeal to the greater GOP forever.
And all this whining about his rivals and those like Bauer who supported rivals is only deepening the mainstream GOP's disregard for him. Time for him to do a reality check and see he has no future as a candidate. I see him having a voice on platform and policy but never again as a nominee. He is out of the running now. This little book will have been his swan song.
Some say the senate may be in his future. I say maybe. He is better as guy who merely casts votes for a living albeit undependably conservative. He lacks leadership and class to ever be president. |
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thanksgiving week. Me? I have family in town from CA. We did baptisems for the dead this weekend. awesome. And I ocme on here, and guess what? White sally has sobered up and crawled out of this bigot hole. Bauer said what needs to be said. Huckabee is nothing but a sniveling little child who got his butt handed to him by the mormon guy. Poor baby. So, to prove that's he's not a lightweight, he says in the 'race' knowing he has no chance, until he gets 'more' votes than Romney. SIX WEEKS LATER, he acheives his goal, drops out and continues to replay the primarys. I'll be Janet is pleased as punch that he now has to spend so much time away. He must be a pretty bitter and angry man to live with. |
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Your boy is snide and sniffling, complaining about about petty issues and criticizing other Republicans. And when folks push back, defending themselves, you and he are "offended" all over again. |
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...the Left owns the schools, the entertainment industry and the MSM. The HowObamaWon video says it all: Clueless people + Leftists = a win for the young, smooth however empty Obama.
I truly do not know how to reach ignorameous voters who believe that the Pubs run Congress and everything under the sun is Bush's fault.
These ideas are cemented into the brains of clueless voters and won't be blasted out by dynamite.
I live in Socal. There was literally dancing in the streets when Obama won. Whatever Bo's screw-ups, they will be blamed on the Republicans.
I don't see another Republican win in my lifetime. Republicanism has been painted as the mean, bigotted, old fogey party of fat, rich, boring white men who exploit everything and everybody on the planet for their own greed. |
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Here is a point I think many conservatives miss: UNTIL Obama and the Democrats begin screwing up, none of our candidates are going to gain much traction. It's not our "charisma" deficit or a problem with the leftist media; it's simply that the ball is now in the Democratic court and there isn't much we can do about it. Thus, I wish conservatives of all stripes would end this endless orgy of self-flagellation and finger-pointing and simply realize, until Obama flubs, we are going to be playing defense.
That said, we are going to have to have a 'team' ready for when Obama and Company inevitably fumble. Obviously, I think the newer generation, the fresh faces, are the route to go.
But the real reason Obama beat McCain is simple. If you looked at both candidates as candidates, irrespective of party or ideology, Obama was, by far, the better speaker, the more telegenic, the smoother communicator. Obama was simply a better candidate. Stylistically, we were beat from the beginning in any matchup between a smooth 40-something year old who looked even younger and a halting, sometimes incoherent 70-something year old who looked even older. It does not surprise me the young people, the under 30 crowd, went for Obama; when you are young, you normally go for the Mustang instead of the Buick.
Fortunately, I think the 08 election was a convergence of several once-in-a-lifetime events. But our ideas were not beaten, only our candidate. In 2012, once Obama has come of his cross and sullied his hands with goverance, the GOP will have its chance at restoration. Hopefully, this time we will get the best of both worlds- great skills as candidate and great ideas. McCain had neither.
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about Guliani.....
He is pro-choice among other things....
How does he stand on NATIONAL gun control???
He was mayor of the birthplace of gun control......New York City......
I find it hard to believe he was mayor of New York City and not support gun control......
If he ever came out against it.....I never heard it....
He's a decent guy but almost certainly more liberal than McCain...... |
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"Huckster" is just another RINO who happens to be more likeable than the other RINOs, IMO. |
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See, White Salamander, these two Happy Days characters are so irrelevant that I can't even remember exactly what their names were.
If anybody seriously thinks either Gary Bauer or Mike Hickabee are going to somehow be players in the 2012 derby, then I really question their sanity. If I am wrong, then the GOP is in worse shape than I suspect.
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You miss the point,crediblility or no, Huck DID go for his vote, so your points about his lack of values are irrelevant to the discussion between Huck and Bauer and this post. |
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I'm really tired of all the 2008 GOP presidential candidates-Hickabee, McCain, Thompson, and even Romney. As a party, we need to turn the page. The future is Jindal, Pence, Palin, Castor, Thune, Pawlenty, Sanford, etc..., not the class of 08.
After 4 years of Jimmy Carter Obama, the GOP is going to have a chance to elect a great president. Let's start thinking and planning for the future and not get bogged down as yesterday's candidates squabble. Bauer and Hickabee arguing is about as relevant to me as Ralph Mouth and Potsy arguing over who more lame. |
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Forget the fact that the issues discussed didn't have anything to do with anyone's personal life... if that were an issue, Huck didnt make it one, Huck was seeking his vote, I mean, if he was soo immoral, as you say what doesnt your claims make it a bit strange for for Huck to be seeking the support of such an immorally corrupt person?
Huck has never liked to discuss the issues, he likes to make personal attacks...kind of like you and your obsession with mormons.
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He'll have the money in 2012 to fight back against these bogus and distorted attacks against him.
Huck 2012!!!! |
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None of these jokers is conservative ergo they are a losing proposition for the Stupid Party. Try to nominate a con next time and let's see what happens. The people need and deserve a choice not just slightly different versions of the same party. |
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for saying what us true conservatives were thinking/knew about Huckabee. We all know a phony when we see one. Huckabee needs to either go crawl back in his Arkansas hole or join a party that is more like-minded to him (i.e. the Democrat party).
* Mike Huckabee supports illegal immigration
* Mike Huckabee wants to give amnesty to millions of illegal immigrants.
* Mike Huckabee wants more illegal immigrants
* Should Christians vote for Mike Huckabeee?
* Media's Masters Adore Huckabee
Learn more about the real Mike Huckabee here:
http://alabamadefenders.us/defenders/mike_huckabee.html |
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Matt, when are you going to give Mike Huckabee a break. Any news that would make him look bad, you are right there reporting it. Did you also make an article about Mike Huckabee getting a contract for a radio show? I doubt it...you are too busy looking to bash him.
It would be nice if Townhall could be fair and balanced with all their choices of articles. |
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"His record on taxes and spending, illegal immigration, ........all worried me."
Right. That's why Paul Wyerich and a number of other conservatives said after McCain was nominated that "WE" (conservatives) made a mistake and should have backed Huckabee.
Bauer instead backed GULIANI!! Who is pro-abortion, pro illegal immigration, etc. What hypocrisy!
Ultra-social conservatives had a hard time with Huckabee because he didn't HATE the NEA and tried to go after traditionally democractic voters like Regan did. Their reactionary stance drove them to others rather than actually choosing the candiddate with MOST executive experience with solid pro-life credentials.
The Repub primaries was a sham with most the CONSERVATIVE media covering up Romney's behind the scenes deception.
In a TV and image age, Huckabee probably still wouldn't have beaten Obama and Huckabee had to grow up quick as a politician.
But just like the attacks on Palin, RINOs are scared of the social conservative movement and will do anything to not have them in control.
I'll take Jindhal, Palin in 2012 ANY DAY! |
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