Monday, July 14, 2008
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Obama's Message To Iraq's And Our Enemies: Hang On, We'll Be Gone Soon
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Posted by:
Hugh Hewitt at
8:50 AM
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Barack Obama is clearly concerned that the victory emerging in Iraq --the victory Obama worked against and would have prevented if he had been in power or had mustered a majority in Congress to stop the surge-- threatens his election.
Thus this "I am not a flip flopping surrenderer" op-ed in the New York Times assuring us that Obama will start the retreat from Iraq within days of his taking office, and that the U.S. will be gone two years from today except for the "residual force" that "would perform limited missions: going after any remnants of Al Qaeda in Mesopotamia, protecting American service members and, so long as the Iraqis make political progress, training Iraqi security forces."
An interesting "residual force" that, since in the same piece Obama announces that all "combat brigades" would be gone by the summer of 2010. The "non-combat residual force" will certainly strike fear in the hearts of Al Qaeda and the Iranian-backed special militias. August 2010 will mark the renewal of the al Qaeda push in Anbar if Obama is elected.
His plan, Obama assures us, "would not be a precipitous withdrawal." Well, yes it would be. Denying the obvious doesn't make the obvious any less obvious. Cutting and running over 24 months is still cutting and running.
Obama denounces "false charges about flip-flops and surrender," but such charges are not false. They are in fact accurate and they need to be amplified and repeated again and again. A vote for Obama is a vote to wish away the bad guys and run away from the front line in the war against Islamist extremism.
"We would pursue a diplomatic offensive with every nation in the region on behalf of Iraq’s stability," which is exactly what Chamberlain pursued with Germany vis-a-vis Czechoslovakia in 1938. Obama appears to be dreaming of a Tehran Pact to rival the Munich Pact of 1938.
Obama can and has conned the MSM but our enemies know retreat when they see it. Obama disingenuously cites the Iraqi demand for a timetable as proof that he is following the same path as the Iraqis, but of course an unknown timetable negotiated with us by the Iraqis over an unknown number of years to an unknown number of troops and subject to their revision if they see the need to slow or halt it is completely different from the defeat on a schedule penned by Obama today. It is a testament to the op-ed's dishonesty that Obama asserts that it is "good news" that "Iraq’s leaders want to take responsibility for their country by negotiating a timetable for the removal of American troops," as though that somehow supports his proposed jam-down of defeat.
"[W]e seek no presence in Iraq similar to our permanent bases in South Korea," Obama asserts, which is the most revealing line in the piece. If the Iraqis wanted such a ten year presence as a long term guarantee against Iranian aggression? Nope. We are out of there under Obama --no matter what crises convulse the region.
Obama's risky plan to run away and hope for the best underscores just how inexperienced and untried he is when it comes to national security matters. Telegraphing surrender in this fashion --in the pages of the New York Times which can be e-mailed to all the jihadists around the globe in need of assurance them that the defeat of the U.S. is but two years off-- is proof that an Obama presidency would be an utter disaster for the U.S. and the world.
"Obama Backtracks On An Undivided Jerusalem" is the headline in the Jerusalem Post story today, a reminder that a wired world knows a weak and double-minded candidate when they see one. Obama's gyrations on Iraq and his many twists and turns on a host of other issues telegraph to our enemies that the Dems have nominated an inexperienced lightweight who will be easily bullied, and for who retreat will always be option #1. If Obama is elected and the jihadists' offensive begins in Iraq and elsewhere, Obama will no doubt write another op-ed urging them to stop.
UPDATE: Hamilton, Madison & Jay read Obama paragraph by paragraph.
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Boy's misunderstood-culturally deprived buds.
In Blovieworld, Evil Cons long for another 9-11 before the November election. The once, arguably, semi-sane Bloviator is now swimming with the most extreme and vile kosroid nutters. But, note, his Messiah is ALL rational, honorable thought. Why then are the most fecal-filled swine tooting his campaign horn?? Fills me with confidence. You, as well, Paddy'me'Boy? |
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Bottom line is BO for once took a real stand on something substantive and got it exactly wrong.
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If you mess with us, we will rip off your head and sh!t down your neck....!
Liberal message to our enemies...
How about another Fresca, Mahmoud....? |
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Hang on. We are using whatever dirty flimflam we can come up with to get elected. If it works, we can continue to use each other to further our domestic political objectives. So hang on. We know that Barack will make it very difficult for you, with his intelligent and high character application of power. But with enough slander and enough hokum, maybe we can bamboozle the American electorate once again. In exchange, you'll continue to draw upon a resentful and radicalized population. After all, we don't want you guys dead We want you around to scare up votes. After all, when we win elections, our guys get tax cuts and subsidies and hand-outs and benefits; we get no bid contracts and price collusion and all those nice things that make life worth living. God bless that nexus between business and government.
So our message to you is, hang on. Oh, and if you can manage a bomb attack on a mall or something in October, that would be really great. Thanks. Love, the Republicans |
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Faye's butchered victim talking to the press at the Texas death House after she got the needle. Thanks to a good governor they got justice and so did Miss Karla. |
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...it is.:)
And for the record I have no sympathy for Karla Faye Tucker. Just saying it was undignified for a sitting Governor with life-and-death powers over her, to ridicule her. |
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Do they include this (I copied it from Joe Farah's column on WND):
"For several days now, WND has been hounding Barack Obama's campaign about a statement he made July 2 in Colorado Springs – a statement that blew my mind, one that has had me scratching my head ever since.
In talking about his plans to double the size of the Peace Corps and nearly quadruple the size of AmeriCorps and the size of the nation's military services, he made this rather shocking (and chilling) pledge: "We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we've set. We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded."
Besides the Armed Forces, America needs a civilian national security force???
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I prayed for you today. I prayed you could repent and believe in Christ. He wants to heal your wounded heart.....you don't have to be "alone".
May God reveal himself to you, through someone. |
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Nobody ever accused HH of being bright.
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When ever someone points out how birght someone else is, usually say's a bunch about yourself. |
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NOT gonna happen. BUT, it was a pure pleasure watching the success of Operation Chaos help Queen Hillary miss her Party's Assumed Coronation.
B.Hussein has dived 15 pts. since the June 20th Newsweek polling. Statistical Dead Heat and Johnny Little hasn't even thrown a punch. Much less those pesky 527s. Yum-Yum. |
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I like your ability to smack down the leftists...you should go visit The site "This ain't hell, but you can see it from here" Great stuff and you get to smack down the leftists and the Paulians. Point out facts and they all go running like cockroaches when the lights are turned on. They never intelligently try to debate, just spew.
I like to call it the "Screaming Monkey Syndrome"
To Wit:
Screaming Monkey Syndrome"
That is, they arrive...
they scream loudly...
flail about spectacularly...
fling poop in every direction...
See the monkeys in the cave,
always waiting to rant and rave
Say the words Reagan,freedom,support a troop
Watch them arrive to drop their poop
Ah, no matter to a Patriot's ear
As there are many lions in this lair
We love to kick the liberal puck
as we tell them go take a flying f*c*!
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One follow-up thought. I hope that Karla Faye Tucker is the recipient of Ted Bundy's..errr... affections on a spit in Hell for Eternity and beyond. GOOD for(then)Governor Bush and his fitting joke. |
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I was this confident on a 'Bet', Mitt went down in flames and The Bloviator won a(future)Deli lunch from me in Pasadena. :-)
'Fraid my betting would jinx Johnny Little more than the maddening maverick jinxes himself! But, tell you what, an old friend & colleague, Angie Lansbury, has already hit me--and other MSWrote Staff vets--for the worthy ALSA donations and there's an office here in Winter Park, about a mile from our Condo. It's conveniently located on Denning Ave, just down the street from where Mrs.Neo attends Rollins College baseball games & Wooden Bat League summer games. Hugh's Semper Fi Fund seems like a good place for LL $$. But, for McJuan's sake, I can't call it a wager!
I knew very little about ALS until I read Scott Turow's wonderful legal thriller, "Personal Injuries". Damn. |
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laborlawyer writes: Tuesday, July, 15, 2008 12:44 AM
Neo
We should put a wager on this. I suggest each of us commit to contribute $100 to the other's favorite charity if the opposing candidate wins.
Thus, if Obama wins, you would contribute $100 to ALSA-LA (Amyotrophic Lateral Sclerosis Association- Los Angeles Chapter).
If McCain wins, I'd contribute $100 to your designated charity.
What do you say?
Arch says"
Watch out Neo! Dealing with the libtards is risky business. |
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laborlawyer writes: Tuesday, July, 15, 2008 12:47 AM
arch
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm
Arch says"
Lucky for you that you clarified that. You almost became a candidate for my libtard mental virus which is incurable. Just ask Dudley he has a severe infection. |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm |
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We should put a wager on this. I suggest each of us commit to contribute $100 to the other's favorite charity if the opposing candidate wins.
Thus, if Obama wins, you would contribute $100 to ALSA-LA (Amyotrophic Lateral Sclerosis Association- Los Angeles Chapter).
If McCain wins, I'd contribute $100 to your designated charity.
What do you say? |
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dudley writes: Monday, July, 14, 2008 10:28 PM
There's
the old Arch! Darn it, Arch, you sure can go after the leftists!
Pinhead.
Arch says"
Damn straight Dudley. You never let me down bud! What evil brew have you got for us today? |
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laborlawyer writes: Monday, July, 14, 2008 10:22 PM
arch
I proudly accept residence in your "book" as an evil leftist libtard. I'm humbled by the honor you bestow upon me.
Arch says"
It is not becoming of a human being to so proudly acknowledge they are dealing out evil to other human beings. If you are not ashamed of this fact you register as hopeless. I'm sorry to have to put you to the top of the list of horribles in my libtard book. but you insist!! |
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Karla Faye! So utterly, relentlessly caricature of self. Yep, she was a delicate little flower. Who can forget the delicacy of her (wire tapped) phone description of butchering her victim. Dream on, LL. Your Kid's got NUTHIN'. By November he'll be a cartoon. 35-state loss--minimum.
Can't wait for those Gucci pumps to hit ground in Iraq. Those al Qaeda Death Cultists gonna be shakin' and shaggin'! |
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I understand you had to get to the hospital, pronto. Darn those computers, sticking like that, and spelling, oh my goodness.
But think, Marystella..next time; next time; next time. Ok?
lackey D |
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the old Arch! Darn it, Arch, you sure can go after the leftists!
Pinhead. |
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Thanks for the gift fo friendship,
your never ending kindness,
Always make my heart rejoice,
does reflect God's wonderous Love and Grace.
On the subject of those with close heart and mind, one has been forgotten and vanished in the shadows.
So what, I typed real quick like now, had trouble with my computer keys sticking and never checked the spelling, had to get to the hospital!
Still you liberals, on major issues, change the premise(permise!) so what few mispelling, go get a life! no apology to the lackey D. rhetorician, go get a life. |
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I proudly accept residence in your "book" as an evil leftist libtard. I'm humbled by the honor you bestow upon me. |
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laborlawyer writes: Monday, July, 14, 2008 9:47 PM
Oh, and anyone who refers to Obama as "Hussein" has no credibility in my book.
Arch says"
Laborlawyer. If you support Saddam Hussien Obama, then you are an evil leftist libtard without question. Now please put me in your book. Please!
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...when Bush ran it, and when Richards ran it. Virtually all of the executive powers that reside in other State governors' offices are diverted to other offices in Texas.
Read and learn:
http://texaspolitics.laits.utexas.edu/html/exec/
Bush didn't "run" much of anything in Texas. Oh, except executions. They had lots and lots of executions. Remember when he ridiculed Karla Faye Tucker before turning down her request for a pardon? Verrrry presidential. |
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paddy o'furniture writes: Monday, July, 14, 2008 7:38 PM
Dud
I make no apologies for being an Evangelical Christian. Why should I?
I repeat the Word of God and the teachings of Jesus as taught in the Bible. Cruel and ignorant to be sure...
Perhaps you'd care to correct me some time instead of just saying I'm wrong. Unless maybe you don't have any idea whether I am or not.... You know not whereof you speak.....
I know the name Jesus Christ is revolting to you, but who better to bow before......you?
I think not....
I am only His hands and feet and voice while I am here because there are really only two truths:
1. There is a God
2. I'm not Him.
I humble myself before the Living God. I suggest you do likewise.
Arch says"
Paddy. Dudley is hopelessly a leftist. He has no God. Anyone who tries to enlighten him of the truth of the Gospels has a belligerent child on their hands. We are powerless to the unwilling. Only the Spirit can work on his soul and we can only pray for his recovery. So long as he remains in his libtard state, he will continue to advocate evil upon humanity and we must do what little it takes to beat him down. I mean no harm to anyones soul but will harshly correct the libtards I find here on this forum. Fbear, dudley, patriotic lib, kimberly and a host of other libtard fools who appear here. I give no quarter! |
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...that had Obama way ahead was an outlier. The Gallup and Rasmussen polls, which track daily, have consistently has Obama up nationally by the same small margins as the current Newsweek poll.
But Presidential elections are not big national elections, they're 50 smaller elections. And that's wher McCain is in deep doo-doo. With "leaners" included, the Rassusen electoral count favors Obama 293-227, with Obama strengthening his leads just today in Minnsota (now up 18%), Iowa (10%), and Michigan (8%). North Dakota is a dead heat; Obama leads in Montana; Mcain is only up 4 points in South Dakota. Electoral-vote.com, which survesys all the polls, has Obama even further ahad, 320-204.
It is getting hard to see how McCain can put an electoral college victory together. The election is Obama's to lose, not vice versa. |
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Oh, yeah Bay-Bee, those hundred and twenty some days in the US Senate line up real nice next to GWB's 8-YEARS of Exec.Experience running the Country's 3rd largest state, with an economy of world class proportions. Why, I wonder, was it that Texas was never a "weak executive state" when Tugboat Annie Richards ran the place???
Gerry F. tawkin' Racist, Laborious One?? Swill. |
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I'm in Georgetown, Guyana, and the internet is spotty at best. I didnt know if anything went through. |
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Kosovo and the hypocrite charge:
Um, yeah...NATO backed it: Germany, the UK, Italy, Canada, France, and Spain were all in, among others.
I don't know how else to say it: Kosovo was not a member of the UN. There were no cease fire agreements agreements between Kosovo and the UN like there were Iraq and the UN. NATO acted on what it perceived to be a humanitarian crisis in its own back yard. There was no invasion. Did the security counsel approve of Kosovo? Nope. Did they have to? Nope. Did the security counsel approve of Iraq? Nope. Did they have to? Yep.
Yes, Saddam was a dick and did a bazillion terrible things, but no one was crying "humanitarian crisis" in Congress, nor the UN, nor NATO, nor the White House...it was all WMD and Iraqi refusal to comply with UN mandates. Did they comply? Nope. But noncompliance, when there was NO intelligence that tended to show that they actually had anything should not have equaled regime change and a five year war, especially with out UN support. It was illegal and dumb.
Oh, and I read Drudge, so take your liberal bashing elsewhere. It's the angry, abusive pricks like you that drove me away from the republican party; at least the angry, abusive, liberal pricks want to save the environment and help other people.
You are a wedge; you aren't helping anyone's cause. Keep screaming, you'll go hoarse eventually and the world will be better for it.
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Kosovo and the hypocrite charge:
Um, yeah...NATO backed it: Germany, the UK, Italy, Canada, France, and Spain were all in, among others.
I don't know how else to say it: Kosovo was not a member of the UN. There were no cease fire agreements agreements between Kosovo and the UN like there were Iraq and the UN. NATO acted on what it perceived to be a humanitarian crisis in its own back yard. There was no invasion. Did the security counsel approve of Kosovo? Nope. Did they have to? Nope. Did the security counsel approve of Iraq? Nope. Did they have to? Yep.
Yes, Saddam was a dick and did a bazillion terrible things, but no one was crying "humanitarian crisis" in Congress, nor the UN, nor NATO, nor the White House...it was all WMD and Iraqi refusal to comply with UN mandates. Did they comply? Nope. But noncompliance, when there was NO intelligence that tended to show that they actually had anything should not have equaled regime change and a five year war, especially with out UN support. It was illegal and dumb.
Oh, and I read Drudge, that's how I got here, so take your liberal bashing elsewhere. It's the angry, abusive pricks like you that drove me away from the republican party; at least the angry, abusive, liberal pricks want to save the environment and help other people.
You are a wedge; you aren't helping anyone's cause. Keep screaming, you'll go hoarse eventually and the world will be better for it.
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Erin, you're not only uncivil, but you are wrong, and screaming doesn't make you right. There is no point in debating you on this anymore since you only belittle other people like a seven year old.
Anyway...
H. J. RES. 114:
Bush neither proved that relying on "diplomatic or other peacful means would not adequately protect the national security," nor did the administration prove that it was not "likely to lead to enforcement of all relevant UN Security Council resolutions regarding Iraq." The administration also failed to prove connections between the Iraqi government and terrorist organizations. The continued approval of the use of force was predicated on this proof and none was supplied.
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Geraldine Ferraro probably isn't a racist, but her comments about Obama during the primaries were decidedly racist.
The war in Kosovo was a NATO operation, not a unilateral American one. Of NATO's 19 member nations, 11 contributed forces to what was known as "Operation Allied Force", including Belgium, Canada, Denmark, France, Germany, Italy, The Netherlands, Norway, Spain, the United Kingdom and the United States. It is correct to note that there was no United Nations approval- though it is ironic to see conservatives pointing to lack of UN approval to discredit NATO's actions in Kosovo.
Those who question Obama's "qualifications" are not being sincere, or they would have voted for Gore instead of Bush in 2000. At that time, Bush had been Governor of a state with a weak Governor system for eight years, and before that had operated a succession of failed businesses; his only successful business, running the Texas Rangers baseball team, succeeded largely due to huge government subsidies in the form of a new baseball stadium. Obama '08 compares very favorably, experience-wise, to Bush '00.
Oh, and anyone who refers to Obama as "Hussein" has no credibility in my book.
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WIN! Here's my bet: Obama and Hillary. Sure winner. C'mon, money! Come to me. |
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Woops, I hit the wrong dang button below!
The Kid is an Empty, Clueless Suit. A slick, smarmy, grifting EMPTY SUIT. This election is Johnny Little's to lose. NOT that he can't, you understand. But, the Newsweek Poll has gone from a 15% lead, 3-weeks ago, to a statistical dead-heat now...and McJuan has yet to throw a serious punch. NOT that he will, ya understand!
Bazama walks outta his swell Gucci loafers every time he opens his maw these days. Now, he's going to be 'loose' in Iraq, Afghanistan and Europe?? Maybe McCain should just stay home until 2-weeks before the election.
This Chicago Machine Slickster ain't got nuthin'. A Ponzi Scheme...3-Card Monty Dealer. Nada.
Juanito: Advice, Bubba...Go to Alaska, meet with Sarah, have an ANWR Road to Damascus experience, name the smart-savy-hotty as your VP Candidate and then stay under the tree line, Captain. |
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is how much resides in The Messiah's resume. |
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Way up at the top of the thread, I outlined the scanty, "barely there" resume of b.hussein and asked how this made him fit to be leader of the free world as opposed to night shift manager at a McDonald's.
In response, I was accused of being a racist by the Viscount of Vacuousness, was accused of being a crossdresser(?) by Comrade briggsy the people's oil baron, and pelted by a fluffy pile of irrelevance by jordan the flying pony whisperer. I'm sure even loony kimberly even chucked a couple of well gnawed rodent bones at me.
But the question remains- what is there in Hussein's experience that qualifies him to be the President of the United States at this time?
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Every time you open your gaping piehole and vomit your inane nonsensical drivel onto this blog, somewhere in the world a book about Logic and Reason bursts into flame.
"Yeah, and they did, and Bush didnt follow the legislation. That's why I mentioned it (i realize it was not clear, given the nature of my response)."
Heh? Bush didn't follow the legislation how? Your citing of Section Three, Paragraph B of H. J. RES. 114 don't cut it. He violated neither of the two clauses in the paragraph. Try again.
And no, you weren't clear- that happens when all one does is play cut n' paste from the moveon.never and daily klutz sites.
"Comparing the war in Kosovo to the war in Iraq is like comparing Obama's willingness to negotiate with Iran to the Munich Pact of 1938...oh wait."
And why's that? I must have missed the UN approving US military activity in Kosovo. Could you provide that cite for me please? Be consistent in your arguments- no UN approval is no UN approval- don't be a hypocrite like the Archduke of Dumba**es (the lefty formerly known as king of the libs).
"There was a real humanitarian crisis in Kosovo, unlike the real weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. There was absolutely no justifable reason to invade and occupy Iraq."
Other than the gassing of the Kurds, the destruction of the marsh Arab habitat, the mass killings (evidenced by the mass graves), the Iraqi Freedom Act of 1998, and 14 UN resolutions stating Hussein had not lived up to the ceasefire agreement of 91. Nope, no reasons at all.
"There was no invasion and occupation of Kosovo. It was not unilateral, unlike the "collation of the willing."
So then Clinton DID have UN and NATO approval to act? Again, could you please cite where this is evidenced?
Nice try, but you FAIL. |
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Too much content on this thread (as usual, marginally related to the topic).
But ain't you a trickster? 1967, White Rabbit. You were there, fo'ty fo', headin' out to HOLLYWOOD, script in hand, youngblood, thought you could do what you could do. But you were against the War in Vietnam, got out of the draft, too old by a little bitty bit. OK, cool, Neo, but don't you forget your night dreams. |
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People here are angry...
The reason i pointed out that I had not made my stance known on Kosovo was to point out that Erin was assuming things, and then arguing; generally a bad strategy (and often a waste of time).
I was not against armed conflict in Iraq. Had the proper UN protocol been followed or had Saddam been harboring terrorists like Afghanistan (where I support military intervention) I would have supported military action in Iraq, but NOT occupation. We could have removed whatever threat Iraq posed WITHOUT regime change. Now we have needlessly destabilized the region, spit in the face of international law, spread the seeds of anti-American sentiment, and emboldened Iran.
This is what HH and all of you are worried about right? Iran? Before we overthrew Saddam, the Iraq and Iran weren't on the best terms; now Amenijad visits (with Iraqi guards, mind you) parts of Baghdad no American politician would dare enter. If building an Iranian ally was the mission, then "Mission Accomplished."
SEEHAWK,
It isn't the UN I'm in love with, it's the rule of law that I love. I am certainly not naive enough to believe that the UN is some world-saving body, but we have agreed to abide by its charter. If we don't honor our international agreements, why would any other nation? We have to be a beacon to the rest of the world, not it's excuse to act as it wishes.
I am not a Democrat, but a Democratic presidential candidate may have my vote (for the first time), especially if this board is any indication of the direction another Republican administration is headed. |
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You said:
"I guess i got the wrong racist. sometimes there so many of them running around its pretty hard to tell who is who and who is what."
Gosh- a leftist who panics when his arguments are shown to be tripe, then desperately flings the "racist" charge at whoever is opposing him. The charge is then shown to be completely without merit, yet he won't admit he was abjectly and completely wrong.
Gosh that NEVER happens.
"And with the guilt by association piltics you guys play its easy to say that since you didn't deny Kchand's past that you support it."
Well gosh king- you didn't deny it either, so I guess you're a racist too. You were wrong, now apologize you jagoff.
"Isn't that the conservative way?"
No. But falsely accusing someone of something, then trying to change the subject when proven overwhelmingly wrong is the liberal way if you're any indication.
"Either way, you're still an idiot whas disputed the basic premise that the Iraq War just blew up in your face courtesy of the Iraqi people."
As evidenced by what, exactly? Apparently your man b.hussein disagrees with your idiocy, as evidenced by his last three flip flops on the subject of Iraq.
This intellect you bragged about- how is that evidenced by you using pseudo words like "whas" and "piltics"? Yep, you aren't in my weight class- I'm thinking you're nanoweight right about now.
"I may need to get my eyes checked, but you are still without a voice in the general election."
Not just your eyes, but your mental capacity as well. I believe I have as much voice as you- I have a vote, one that I will gleefully cast against b.hussein.
Kings are supposed to be wise- a commodity you have yet to show any evidence of. You are hereby demoted, and you force me to say:
Gads, you are the Duke of Doltishness. |
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into this chap claiming to be duddles. I miss old dudley...Haven't seen him in some weeks. But, hey, Bro-Bay, keep on keepin' on, Boyo.
Oh, and yeah, Bay-bee, those butchers in the 'Hood like Crips, Bloods, et al sure are Victims of Racism. Uh-huh. My Gawd, we've found a real live 1972 Librul Boy.
Paddy & 'Hawk: Ain't he CooL? |
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I make no apologies for being an Evangelical Christian. Why should I?
I repeat the Word of God and the teachings of Jesus as taught in the Bible. Cruel and ignorant to be sure...
Perhaps you'd care to correct me some time instead of just saying I'm wrong. Unless maybe you don't have any idea whether I am or not.... You know not whereof you speak.....
I know the name Jesus Christ is revolting to you, but who better to bow before......you?
I think not....
I am only His hands and feet and voice while I am here because there are really only two truths:
1. There is a God
2. I'm not Him.
I humble myself before the Living God. I suggest you do likewise.... |
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I knew there had to be some French in Obama.
Just another cheese-eatin surrender monkey! |
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It's been great fun tonight, but the jig is up. You are and always will be..evangelical. You are cruel, Paddy, in your views, and ignorant in your expression of them, and a serial falsifier. You make fun of who you can, and are a cynic about all. But, who are you |
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King Liberal apologies for the "wrong racist" comment. We don't expect you to understand since this site is just one big clan meeting with secret words, passages and digital handshakes. LOL. Your quick path to the racist smear is always a dead giveaway that an "idiotic comment" alert is not far off. |
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Alas, I flunked the test... I'm not Catholic..... |
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Whenever I see "try again", I guess I'm closer. A priest; am I correct, father? |
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Let me repete this. They found no mass graves ok.
I'm not saying bad things were going on, but please just look at say Africa. Is th UN doing anything about that NO!
And yes when it came to both Kosovo & Iraq we told the UN to we would do it. You may wish to think back about the countries who didn't want for us to go to war. (Food for oil) come to mind.
Can you say Russia, France, China.
I find it odd, you dem's and I'm pretty sure your one of them, just couldn't wait to put pressure on Bush Sr when it came to Africa, so he send our troops and then Clinton changed our mission, which in turn got to many of our fine men killed for nothing. The same with Kosovo, except we bombed from up high killing who knows how many.
Didn't brother you then, but O-man when it comes to Iraq. Your panties get all twisted up. |
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Jordan espousing the Lefty Foreign Policy, so simple he learned it in pre-school-
"Don't hit, use your words".
So, after holding Kosovo up as an example of a "legitimate" armed foreign intervention, he lays on the caveat that, "for the record" he never said it was OK.
Jordan, "for the record", is armed foreign intervention EVER, in your opinion, "OK"? |
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Fair enough. If your post to marystella was just a good-natured jest, I can accept that, so I apologize if I was over the line.
However.....my name is not Patrick. Try again.... |
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It's Dudley to you. I don't need your apologies, young woman. MS can speak for herself, usually very well. She screws up, who knows it better than she. Fellow countrymen? She lives in Cleveland, claims she can vote.
Thought you were a bigtime Christian. Then you come across as an attacker. OK, come on, it's a game, I'll take you on. |
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we had stuck to chasing, catching, and killing
Bin Laden and the remnants of Al Queda when we
had the chance and the full resources of our
military. Now he's being harbored in a state
where he and his allies are thriving and growing
and the message we sent to the Jihadists that
there is no safe haven for you, and any state
(Pakistan!) that harbors you will be dealt with
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Mr "kchand" a few posts above noted Obamanistas are staggeringly ignorant.[Excerpt from THE DUMBEST GENERATION by Professor Mark Bauerlein~ Q: Where does the Pope reside? A: England...Q: What city in England? A: Paris...Q: How many stars on the American Flag? A: 52. (Obama thought 57)].
Not all Demo Cong are stupid. They're proficient Orwellian Liars who aspire to deconstruct our Republic(unless we can keep it as Franklin warned~that's Founding Father Benjamin;not your half-wit homeboy Al FRANKIN)into secularist/anti-Christian Oligarchy ruled by them. Hence:they nominate a feckless,mendacious,timorous boy-man. (Even Clinton was able to fake it~manly draft dodger that he was). To some who read Classics recall Aristotle~ No one is granted voting privilege unless he's ~ male with military service;owns property and possesses adequate financial resources and savings;is part of the "leisured" class (Greek word for leisure is SKOLE(ergo...for polymath Obamaites who don't want to embarrass our USA next time they visit the Hellenic Republic...formally schooled-
educated. Enough(even"outdated"Truth hurts,nicht wahr?).For KOSmonauts who continue to illuminate the proverb,"It is better to be thought an ignoramus...then open blog-site and prove it."
Can you dig it,BrObama homies?
Arthur McVarish, Houston
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uh, Saddam was a terrorist.
http://www.husseinterrorist.com |
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Enjoy your evening out with the b-crats from the UN.....you shouldn't go "dutch" considering all the "oil for food" money they looted. You do know that was the biggest money scam (puts Enron to shame)in human history???? What a lovely bunch to fall in love with. Bon appetite'! |
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Remember when one who calls his own self the "dud" insults you, you can count it all joy. When I get my Farsi down as good as you have English, your family would never insult me. Forgive,my fellow countrymen who have no manners.I use fellow...countrymen very loosely. |
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Diplomacy is extremely over-rated... |
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You are a typical Leftist. Make fun and mock people with accents .......what a bunch of hypocrites. |
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re. your last. Very negative. Everybody's "small" except you. Ego in control..but the one you call "scum", coming up in your nights. I'm here for ya, brother.
And you're right to raise the neighborhoods. Time we paid much more attention to THOSE WHO ARE VICTIMS OF RACISM. yeah |
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Is Geraldine Ferarro a racist for saying, "If he were not black, he would not be leading in the race for the Democratic nomination today"? |
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Dustoff-507,
Uh, I know this is going to sound like a total BS - I'm on the internet and I can say whatever I want - moment, but my current roommate's family (she is ethnic muslim, non-practicing) fled to Holland, and then to the US after everything that happened there. She was 9, and doesnt remember a ton, but she said her parents still wont talk about it. I think there are plenty of people who would can argue from personal experience that there were vile things happening in Kosovo...you even admitted it in your response.
That being said, Saddam was no saint...but it was not the reason given as justification for the invasion...and an invasion is what it was. We never invaded Kosovo, they agreed to having a NATO force there.
The Kosovo argument still ignores the UN resolutions we were party to with Iraq that placed legal restrictions on our actions.
It's a moot point, because nothing will ever come of the illegality of our actions, but it doesn't change the fact that it was illegal.
I also, just for the record, never said Kosovo was okay, just that the comparison was dumb...like the Munich Pact comparison. |
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I don't make fun of Marystella. She can write circles around you and me, free prose...sometimes. Then she sounds half-illiterate...sometimes. Maybe she was hammered. Who cares? You, on the otherhand, sometimes sound like a defrocked priest. So you never know.. |
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Dustoff beat me to it, but please define "humanitarian crisis". Saddam was killing 25-50K of his own people every year, does that meet your standard??? Sheesh.
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real humanitarian crisis
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There was?????? How odd they found no large MASS GRAVES they spoke of.
By the way. NATO didn't want to do zip unless we (US) went it.
Do you have any idea what is going on in that country now? The problem hasn't gone away, just the MSN doesn't speak of it.
Should we bring up the UN soldiers who have been caught using food for sex over there. (hmm food for oil) where have we heard that one before. |
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a couple Wars and liberated 50-million slaves. But, YOU LOSERS are so deeply and profoundly invested in American Defeat that it plain doesn't matter, eh, Babycakes? Let's see...now's when you'll bring up those 9-soldiers killed in Afghanistan yesterday...Right?? Now, go count the week's toll of the 'hoods in Chicago and Detroit. Uh-huh...You nimrods don't call that war, do ya??
Paddy: The sad Little Squid just gets dimmer & dimmer, doesn't he??
Princess MaryS: Paddy & I will round up the insulting midget and hand him over to you for paddling. :-)
Erin: Enjoying your B!tch-Slappin' the Leftoid Pygmies. God, what loathsome, sorrya** Seditionists. Not worth spit. |
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Yeah, and they did, and Bush didnt follow the legislation. That's why I mentioned it (i realize it was not clear, given the nature of my response).
Congress not complaining proves nothing. If I am required by law not to speed, the state not complaining about my speeding makes it no less illegal. This mutt never said that Congress didn't have blood on its hands.
Comparing the war in Kosovo to the war in Iraq is like comparing Obama's willingness to negotiate with Iran to the Munich Pact of 1938...oh wait. HH did that (epic fail); had the UK and France invaded Czechoslovakia (or at least part of it, right?), removed the leaders, and then bailed...maybe the comparison would be fair...assuming that Iran had already annexed parts of Afghanistan, then approached us after we left the middle east and said, "uh, yeah, so if you'll just let us have Iraq, we wont be worried about Israel invading anytime soon and we'll totally stop there."
There was a real humanitarian crisis in Kosovo, unlike the real weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. There was absolutely no justifable reason to invade and occupy Iraq. Disarming the Iraq military of its "WMD's" would not require it, even it force was justified. There was no invasion and occupation of Kosovo. It was not unilateral, unlike the "collation of the willing." Kosovo was not a member of the UN when the invasion took place and there was no agreement between Kosovo and NATO that dictated how things should be resolved (unlike in Iraq, U.N. Security Council Resolution 687, and 1441).
Apples to Oranges. NIce try though.
You assume that because I call BS on a horribly written blog that I am some sort of left wing nut who hates republicans...far from it. Just a guy who knows what BS smells like. |
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Hawkeye-
I'm a he... Erin is short for Erin Go Bragh. But thanks for the backup.
Dustoff- exactly right. Didn't think I had the space left to include that in my post to jordan the dumb. Believe the initial agreement stated that Hussein had 6 months to definitively account for and/or destroy all WMDs.
14 resolutions and a decade later, that still had not been proven- I would invite any of the dumbsh*ite lefties on this thread to indicate which intelligence agency outside of Iraq's was stating that Hussein did NOT have wmds at the time we resumed hostilities. And the supersecret Vanity Fair covergirl Valerie Plame does not in any way, shape, or form represent anything remotely close to "intelligence" in this or any instance.
Yeah, I'll keep up with the smackdowns- if only if it wasn't so tiresomely, predictably easy. |
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(note to Jordan)
Didn't the UN also give the US a return to action after Gulf War I, If Iraq refused to follows the guides lines. What Saddamm didn't do.
(trying to shoot down US aircraft is not a good idea)
Keep smacking them Erin. (-: |
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Erin mentions the truth about Obama being an affirmative action beneficiary and the left calls her out as a racist. Erin, just keep that dirty little piece of affirmative action laundry on Obama to yourself. It obviously starts a nervous twitch with our oh' so tolerant libs on this site.
With the election less than 120 days out, the dems are scrambling to deligitimize the success of the surge and the improvement in Iraq. Too late. Obama and the dems made there mark (Harry Reid-April 2008 "The War Is Lost). Can anyone in memory remember a mainstream (at least they used to be) U.S. political party that had so much invested in the U.S. losing? And they want to protect America from Al Qaeda? They seem more comfortable in surrendering.
All will be better next week when Obama goes to the Middle East and gives a message to the Palestinians to pass along to Al Qaeda that he is sorry we're winning the GWOT. He's knows America is at fault and is doing his best to change that course in Iraq. |
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Nice potpourri of irrelevancy...
War powers act, Chapter 33. Not an argument for you. It discusses how Congress has the power to legislate war- which as I said, they did.
Section 3, par B- addresses the need for Bush to show that further diplomacy or peaceful means wouldn't be effective against Hussein. He did, as evidenced by the lack of congress complaining about this.
Also discusses that this action be consistent with actions against terrorist organizations. It was.
Two irrelevancies eliminated. Moving on...
You reference the "The overwhelming weight of international legal authority." Irrelevant, or at the very least misleading.
Again, CONGRESS is the only body that can legislate/authorize the US going to war. They are the legislative branch, Bush is the EXECUTIVE branch- he can't authorize war. If you have a desire to apply the overwhelming weight of int'l legal authority somewhere, apply it to the legislative branch- that would be Congress, you mutt.
I would apply the reasoning directly above to your mindless bleating about the UN as well- take it up with Congress, they're the ones that (thankfully) authorized executing the Iraqi Freedom Act of 1998 (one of the few good things Clinton did) and deposing Hussein.
Also, if a lack of UN Sanction gets you angry, you must be furious about what Clinton did to Milosevic.
Anyway, nice try. Despite your fluffery, the war still wasn't "illegal". Keep chanting though- perhaps you'll get a cotton candy rainbow next.
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Bringin' the stoopit, time after time.
First, moron- check who wrote the 11:09 post you keep idiotically referring to- that would be kchand, not me. Another example of your vaunted "heavyweight" brain power, I'm sure.
Second- so you find it okay to question my intellect when I write "with" instead of "wit", yet I can't do the same when you write "think" instead of "thank". Again, you halfbrained hypocrite. The rest of that paragraph ain't worth responding to as you are too stupid to read who wrote a post.
My panties aren't in a bunch, and you could do to go read the BBC article I posted- it turns your mindless bleating into mush.
It's good to know there are things to count on:
Gads, you're STILL a dolt.
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If I had your IQ, I don't think I would be making fun of somebody else's shortcomings.....know what I'm saying?
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Code Pink playbook step by step, eh Kimber?
If you ever decide to seek the truth, you will find the Iraqis said nothing of the sort. Dig deep my little commie princess. I know you can't stand the thought of America being about freedom and democracy, but the fact is Maliki was misquoted. The word "presence" was deleted and the word "withdrawal" substituted.
You know Kimber.....I think we need to find a Marine for you to marry....wouldn't that be nice? You can make him sandwiches...go for walks....fetch his slippers.....
On second thought, why punish a perfectly good Marine? He'd be better off with a dog. |
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Erin, YOU WERE RIGHT!!!!!
I kept "chanting the same stoopit nonsense," over and over and guess what?!?!?!? I got my very own flying pony...HERD!!!
I've named them all...one I named "UN Charter," who is really good friends with the one I named "1969 Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties," (who seems to think that, if we signed the UN Charter, we have to follow it).
Another I named, "Section Three, Paragraph B of H. J. RES. 114," who usually hangs out with, "United States Code Title 50, Chapter 33."
There's "Kofi Annan," (named after the former United Nations secretary general, dont ya know?), "U.N. Security Council Resolution 687," "U.N. Security Council Resolution 1441," and "Oh Wait, the UN Security Counsel Never Authorized the Use of Force against Iraq, but we acted under U.N. Security Council Resolutions anyway."
I have a nice picture of one named "http://www.robincmiller.com/ir-legal.htm" (I know, weird name, right? But I LOVE the internet) he's good friends with this little guy named, "The overwhelming weight of international legal authority."
I'm going to go tend to my herd, maybe saddle up and fly away...who knows!
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Tell us how you really feel.
Actually, the model for evil is not Bush, Rumsfeld, and Cheney. They are incompetence and failure of ideas. But like Winkin', Blinkin', and Nod, they sailed off into a sea of doodoo.
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kchand writes: Monday, July, 14, 2008 11:09
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Need to get your eyes checked.
Erin said noting at 1109am. Wrong person. LOL
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You have a couple pops before writing this? Probably, but a quick spellcheck mighta helped you. I understand, Marystella, but keep on, keepin' on. |
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phony soldiers
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HAHAHAHA, you mean that great soldier who never made it out of boot camp, then claimed on you-tube to be a Ranger and killed people and now has PTS.
Then filed for VA money before he was caught!
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the facts, and have no clue of the state the matter, so wander aimlessly trying to change and create a false permise, and do what always do, call you a racist.
Therefore, when they make so fluently fools of themselves, you will never see a better cratsmanship. |
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The red menace is out in force today....crawling around Townhall like so many cockroaches.
Kimberly inspiring us all with her hatred; Briggsy calling somebody a cross-dresser and in the next breath, impugning the intelligence of another man's posts (stay classy kid); the usual ruffians with their assorted collections of facts and truths.....sometimes created on the spot.
Geez...circle the wagons, ready....shoot.....aim!
The one purpose they do serve, though, is to shine a bright light on the unhinged nature of the left in general. It is to be amused....but petrified that this sort of lunacy should ever come to power in what was once the USA.
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For b.hussein, and our two local nitwits (king dingbat and briggsy the would be basher of non-gays).
This from the BBC:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7504571.stm
Sucks even more to be you.
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i do believe that Hugh did mention the Iraqi timetable, that that timetable would be something that would be kept from the Jihadists. Obambi wishes to telegraph his timetable to these same Jihadists. That is not an insignificant difference, right king? |
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"the Dems have nominated an inexperienced lightweight who will be easily bullied, and for who retreat will always be option #1."
perfectly stated.
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I Never get accustomed to the depth and vastness of Lefty Chosen-Ignorance. A-Mazin'! A conscious decision to be cynical, self-destructive and wrong. Totally Invested in American Defeat. The ones, like Obama, who claim to be "for" the 'real war' in Afghanistan are simply LYING. They have not the slightest wish or intention of seeing that mission to the end. Why? Because they do not see al Qaeda or the Taliban as enemies, much less Evil. Nope, as was confirmed to me by a young Lefty of my acquaintance this weekend, their model for Evil are Rumsfeld, Cheney and Boooosh.
Pathetic, Cowardly, Defeatist, Craven & Hate Filled. |
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I've seen the quality of your posts. |
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you insult dolts when you compare briggsby to a dolt.
dolts are far more intelligent. |
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So, bluinredcty, you are demeaning the service of any vet who chooses to support Obama?
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Ooooh, briggsy- good one.
What a well thought out response to my posting that dissected your nonsensical assertion that b.hussein was "presidential".
But to answer your question- I am a man. I do not cross dress.
You, however, are still a dolt.
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Anyone else tired of name-callers:
He 'writes' of Hugh:
"HUGH IS LYING AGAIN ... his simple mind..."
of Erin:
"...reveals you to be a racist idiot..." and "...racist morons like yourself..."
That's just the current post. When you have nothing to say, you just insult people.
Just don't feed the trolls.
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"just ending an illegal war in Iraq."
Please indicate how said war was illegal. Congress authorized the use of military force in Iraq- thereby making it legal, as congress is the legislative branch of the government.
Additionally, I would refer you to the Iraqi Freedom act of 1998, where an effort spearheaded by Clinton, Gore, Kerry, etc. led to congress making regime change official US public policy.
But you just keep chanting the same stoopit nonsense over and over- maybe someday it will come true, like on the same day you get your very own flying pony! |
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So I will.
First, apologies- you are a "half wit". Spelling it "half with" did make me look about as stupid as you. Sorry about that- my insults will be spelled correctly in future, you dope.
Moving on:
"ah your last post reveals you to be a racist idiot and not a serious commentor."
Ah, how? You bringing race into the equation shows the pathetic desperation of one with no facts to back his candidate- I said the same thing about Edwards, I said the same about Hillary. Nice try though, chief.
Secondly, please indicate where I have introduced "race" into my listing of O'Bama's "achievements".
Weak as water, chump.
Yet another lefty example of "when you can't pound the facts, pound the table."
"Which an American General confimred Iraqi forces would be ready in 2009."
Which again, is related to what you completely excised from your initial comment. Again, you are a hypocritical tool.
"Have all your facts before you try to engage in an argument out of your weight class."
Will keep that in mind the next time I come up against another flyweight like yourself, you dolt.
"I think God that McCain does not represent racist morons like yourself and has more sense than many people in the party he represents."
You "think God"? What the hell is that? An example of your intellectual weight class? Nice, moron.
Also, how again does my citing BHO's "acheievements" equate with racism? Oh, that's right- they don't. You just keep on throwing that one around, maybe someone will be scared by it.
Yet again- gads, you are a screeching dolt.
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HH, you're so right: having forces directly west of Iran is mush better than having them directly east in Afghanistan (war planes will get to Tehran much more quickly, given the rotation of the earth, right?). Obama doesn't propose ending the war on terror, just ending an illegal war in Iraq. I'm sure statements like Obama's that he would strike, unilaterally, in Pakistan if he knew Bin Laden was there, give terrorists, and the middle eastern nations at large, warm and fussy feelings at night. |
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and the real conservative establishment (not the neocons) wouldn't jump at the chance to pull out now that we've been asked to leave. Here is total face saving opportunity, but they are going to blow it. It's clear, Hugh has been seduced by the neoconservative agenda of maintaining permanent bases in Iraq regardless of the desires of the Iraqi people. I don't want to hear anymore silly slogans about "spreading freedom" from conservatives who take this position. Time to leave. |
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Osama Bin Laden and his organization that
facilitated the deaths of thousands on our
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BO's important considerations:
1. Affirmative Action.
2. He's not Jesse Jackson.
3. He's not conservative. |
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Community Organizer, principal achievements squandering huge amounts of gov't money and leaving housing projects in worse condition.
Part time law professor, albeit a popular one.
Illinois state senator, noted principally for the vast number of "present" votes.
US state senator, for roughly 150 days.
How again is this the resume of a potential US president, and not the night manager at a McDonald's?
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"Obama's op-ed is a must read. Contrary to HH's disingenuous blog, Obama is stating exactly what he has been saying all along."
Saying all along- as dated when? Last week, or a month ago, or back when he said the surge was a failure, or during the campaign when he said he would IMMEDIATELY begin troop drawdowns? Disingenuous- I do not think this word means what you think it does.
"It never was and regardless of how much bush has helped bring terrorism to Iraq, the focus should never have been there, and shouldn't still BE there."
So you're saying there were no terrorists extant in Iraq previous to Bush resuming hostilities per both the UN ceasefire agreement from the early 90's and Clinton's Iraqi regime change act of the mid 90's? Wow, you are delusional.
"man who is misquoted as saying he wants all of Israel wiped off the map. "
Eh, what?
You need to quit posting while smoking the crack.
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too many people, a majority of them younger, have an emotional connection with Obama, not a rational one. Therefore, it really doesn't matter much about what he says or what his policies are or how hypocritical he is. They will never see that. I know this because I employ scores of them. They know very little about politics. To the point that they cannot explain distinct differences between Democrats and Republicans.
These, mostly young people, get their political insights from Leno, Letterman, and John Stewart. They've never heard of Meet the Press or any other Sunday news shows. They rarely vote but are intrigued by this Barack Obama guy because he is presented to them as someone quite different from other presidential candidates.
They know little about current events, except those that are on the cover of People magazine and they are unlikely to vote. They don't know where their polling location is and cannot name their Representative. They are wonderful, hard working people that are just not into this stuff. Hugh knows more about Nascar than they do about politics and national and world affairs.
Just one viewing of 'Jay-walking' on Jay Leno's show gives you some insight into who I am talking about. Hopefully, they will continue their pattern of avoiding the voting booth. |
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King of the liberals (aka tallest gnome in the forest) sez:
"The Iraqis have asked us for a time table for withdrw. that is mentioned nowhere above in this blantantly partisan spin piece."
And you seem to have left out this lil' nugget, king-
""Mouwaffak al-Rubaie, told The Associated Press that the government is proposing a timetable conditioned on the ability of Iraqi forces to provide security."
Again: CONDITIONED ON THE ABILITY OF IRAQI FORCES TO PROVIDE SECURITY.
Whoops, looks like you just wrote a blatantly partisan spin piece, you half with hypocrite.
Briggsy the nationalist oil baron said:
"Because Obama is presidential."
Perhaps if you're talking about president of the local chess club, you nit.
Your "presidential" community organizer is on record as saying the surge would be and at the time was a complete and abject failure. That didn't happen- how's that for "presidential", eh sport?
Gads, you are both dolts.
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was liberating an area, making contacts, and then abandoning them to al Qaeda.
You know the scene in Apocalypse Now where Kurtz laments the little innoculated arms being cut off? Well retaliation stuff like that happened time and again in Iraq.
We need to follow through on what we say. Bush Sr. failed to do so in the first Gulf war, which resulted in uprising Shiites getting slaughtered. W failed to do so the first couple of years of the occupation which gave al Qaeda its initial foothold but eventually listened to Petraeus and figured it out. We do not need another President with a learning curve. |
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stepped up to the plate at Basra was because British troops withdrew.
Withdrawal of foreign occupiers apparently brings out the best in the new Iraq.
How is possible for Obama see this while Hugh Hewitt, McCain and Lieberman do not?
Because Obama is presidential.
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I, myself, am deeply comforted by the brutal intentions of this hairy-chested-alpha-male!
Actually, the Kid scares the Hell outta me. But, he provides great hope and optimism for the Dark Age Death Cultists whom we're currently playing hardball with. Always amazes me that the Demmies are doing their Defeatist, Retreatist, Munich-2 Dance, within living memory Neville & Company.
Shameful. |
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Obama's policies, at this point, seem to be a jumble of incoherence.
He's going to have "serious" discussions with Iran, and use the carrot and stick approach, as he said, but he's also going to move the stick 8000 miles away as soon as he's president?
This doesn't add up. It doesn't make sense. |
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