Wednesday, February 06, 2008
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Re: Hugh's Post
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Posted by:
Matt Lewis at
10:40 AM
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John McCain isn't a perfect conservative -- we can all agree on that.
However, whether it's government spending, the surge, or the right to life -- there is no doubt that John McCain would be dramatically better than either Democrat.
Granted, the folks who argue that the conservative movement would be better off if Hillary wins, have a point. Conservative organizations would flourish with her in the White House (unless she were to call the IRS on them, that is). And being in the wilderness for a few years might also lead conservatives to re-examine themselves, and become purer.
Still, I believe the stakes are too high to take this gamble. The long-term damage to the country that a Hillary Clinton presidency could bring is simply too severe. As Hugh notes, having Democrats control both the White House and Congress would be devastating. (As a side note, one good prospect of having Hillary and McCain as the nominees is that McCain mght have some good coattails which could help our Senate and House candidates.)
Should McCain hope to gain the support of other conservatives, he will need to give a good (and sincere) CPAC speech and continue surrounding himself with good conservatives.
But this is a two-way street. We need to do our part, too. It's equally important that enough conservatives keep the lines of communication open to him, so that he is surrounded by conservative advisors, staffers, and mentors. Conservatives mush have a way to punish bad behavior, and encourage good behavior. But McCain isn't likely to be open to embracing conservatives if they are kicking sand in his face.
A true patriot, Hugh Hewitt is right to call on conservatives to rally behind the nominee, whomever that is. I would also urge the winning side to be equally gracious in welcoming former foes into the fold, "with malice toward none."
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I didn't realize that Senator Robert KKK Byrd & McCain were in cahoots...they were partners in the Gang of 14...Birds of a Feather! |
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Matt...my friend, just take out the "perfect" in your statement and then you'd have it right. |
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James Dobson (Focus on the Family) said he will not vote for McCain.
http://election.newsmax.com/dobson_mccain/?s=al&promo_code= 449E-1
Just like Ronald Regan, Mitt Romney started out moderate and has turned conservative and has learned and changed from previous positions as he has said. Unlike McCain who just pretends and thinks he is fooling everybody.
Huckabee is a populist just like John Edwards but at least he is 10 times better than McCain. |
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Assuming Juan McCain wins the nomination:
We persuade Ron Paul to run as an independent
then
All Conservatives vote for him.
If he wins (nearly impossible), fine but we must talk him out of that surrender nonsense.
BUT. We will send a huge message to the Republican leadership and incumbents that we will let Hillary win before we will water down our principles to nothing. Winning just to get these otherwise-unemployable hacks a job is not it. We must adhere to conservative principles and defeat libs.
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I remember 1988. I worked to try to get Jack Kemp the nomination. Conservatives turned their backs on him and nominated Bush 41. I remember an article in National Review written by Bob Dornan (B-2 Bob) explaining why they should choose G.H.W. Bush. Bush 41 made a campaign season conversion to Reaganomics just like Mitt Romney has. We know how that worked out. |
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Matt seems to think that we have to go with a liberal candidate in order to win in November. Perhaps Matt didn't learn his lesson just over a year ago when Republicans lost control of congress. They lost because they were acting like LIBERALS. Republicans cannot win by acting like Democrats. Reagan did not win that way, Gingrich did not win that way, and McCain will lose in November because he is a RINO. Matt is forgetting that conservatives tend to be more principled than moderates which means McCain will be far less likely to unite the party than a conservative candidate would.
As a conservative I view McCain to be in the same boat as Hillary and Obama. Let's list the ways:
-McCain sided with Hillary and opposed the Bush tax cuts.
-McCain sides with Hillary and wants to shut down Guantanamo.
-McCain sides with Hillary and wants to eliminate waterboarding on high profile terrorists.
-McCain sides with Hillary's anti-energy policies causing gas and energy prices to sky rocket.
-McCain sides with Hillary and wants to spend tax dollars destroying embryos for research.
-McCain sides with Hillary and despises big business.
-McCain sides with Hillary and wants civil unions for homosexuals.
I'm sorry but I can't vote for that. Republicans will lose in November with McCain, which I hope forces the party to reexamine itself and bring it back to its conservative roots. By then a lot of damage will be done but it will be the McCainiacs fault for supporting a liberal candidate. |
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Mitt has undeniably waffled on positions -- but, in the end, he settled on conservative principles. As a Republican, he won the Governorship in one of THE MOST LIBERAL states in the Union. We're talking about the home of JFK, Bobby Kennedy, Ted Kennedy, Jon Cary, Mike Dukakis, etc. etc. As Gov. of MA, Romney had to deal with an overwhelmingly liberal state legislature. He cuts deals, "built bridges", and in the end made REAL CONSERVATIVE progress.
Was Romney's record perfectly conservative? No. But you MUST give credit where credit is due. I would never consider living in MA, let alone trying to run the state as a Republican.
Compare this to John McCain's RECENT history:
-- Fought the Bush tax cuts
-- Called Don Rumsfeld the worst SecDef in U.S. history
-- Opposed the Defense of Marriage bill
-- Seriously considered running as Kerry's VP in 2004
-- Repeatedly bashed Condoleeza Rice
-- Allied with Ted Kennedy to give amnesty to illegals
-- Allied with Russ Feingold to inhibit political speech
-- Defended Kerry against the Swiftboat Veterans
-- Publicly blamed Bush and Rumsfeld for Abu Ghraib
-- Pushed anti-water boarding laws through Congress
-- Supported closing GITMO
-- Fueled rumors he would switch parties
-- Scoffed at AZ Republicans threatening a recall
-- Is a Global Warming believer
-- Said the U.S. should "mend fences" internationally
-- Repeatedly criticized the struggling Iraqi government
-- Blamed Bush for Katrina
-- Bashed Bush's domestic surveillance programs
-- Proposed a gun control bill
-- A card carrying member of the Keating 5
-- Voted against drilling in Alaska
Now he expects the GOP to kiss his ring? Unbelievable. |
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What is this? "A amjority" I think the word is M..A..J..O..R..I..T..Y" "Prsidency" I think the word is is P..R..E..S..I..D..E..N..C..Y "oour" Next time try O..U..R You misled me, you can't spell as you sugested. Is english your second language? You're priceless!
Enough of your style of tripe (thanks for spell checking that one for me). You said, "At least everyone should agree that McCain will do all he can to curb needless spending." Give me a break. McTax is trying to pass a tax, with his liberal friedns, for gloabl warming. Yeah, I guess it isn't wastefule spending when it is on a global scale. |
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Without Romney, Ron Paul will be the only conservative left standing. As much as it pains me to admit that, it is the unvarnished truth.
While I disagree with Paul on his approach to Iraq, he is correct in stating that the TRUE conservative approach would have been to NEVER invade without HARD evidence of an IMMEDIATE threat.
But, we are there and have been succeeding since day one. We can't afford to simply pull-out.
If Paul will commit to victory in Iraq, he will get my vote (absent another conservative alternative). |
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Pardon me for stating the obvious, but isn't it a bit hypocrtical for you to judge McCain by his past mistakes? After all, you continue to tell me that I cannot judge Mitt by his record in Mass. Which by he way, makes McCain seem like Goldwater in comparison. |
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I think McCain will lose the general election no matter what. He has so much the MSM & Dems can use against him to make him look worse than Bush etc. If he named Huckabee as his VP it will be just that much more ammo for the MSM & the Dems. Assuming McCain loses, it will not be the fault of conservatives who did not vote for him. It will not matter whether we vote for him or not, in my opinion. |
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Thanks dude...can I hire you to be my spell checker? Glad you got right to the meat of the issue. BTW Is it Potatoe or Potato. If I can only get past that, I'm sure I'll be glad to support your cause. What was it again--I don't make typos so the Mexico-pyso Juan Hernadadez isn't really on McStain's staff. Yeah, you're educated. |
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In the general election. If Mitt Romney drops out, I'll vote for Ron Paul in the primary.
That being said, I think if McCain chooses a conservative running mate that will be a big help, and if he promises to appoint judges like Scalia and Alito and Roberts and Clarence Thomas. He also needs to tell us how he will enforce the borders.
Good reasons to support McCain vs. Hillary - McCain has been pro-life ever since he's been elected, Hillary is pro-abortion. McCain has served in the military, Hillary has contempt for the military. McCain will try to cut spending and Hillary will try to mandate health care and entitlements. McCain has already come out with some fiscal talking points that sound really good - getting rid of the AMT, cutting corporate rates, making the Bush cuts permanent, etc.
A McCain/Huckabee ticket might be a good idea if we are facing Hillary/Obama. Huck is the one candidate who can actually match Obama in eloquence and who can jab at him without looking mean. |
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That would take an act of God.
Sorry, since my memory is intact I won't be forgetting all the times Juan McVain stabbed conservatives in the back.
If he's the nominee, it's third party or none of the above. |
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...the Democrats will purposefully misconstrue it as a mandate for their brand of "change", rather than the truth, which is that conservatives stayed home and refused to vote for John McCain. To make matters worse, the Congressional and Senate races are skewing toward Democrats for 2008. God help us from the coming train wreck in November 2008. Not voting for McCain in order to hold out for a conservative in 2012 still appears to be the best strategy for us conservatives, of which John McCain is definitely not one. |
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Well said. Republicans should have considered that before abandoning the base of the party. We have already lost if McCain becomes the nominee. |
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for president of my nursing home. I'll even change his diapers. He is not fit to be president.
I voted for Romney, now I'm hoping Ron Paul runs as a Libertarian. |
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February 6, 2008, Dick Morris website: http://www.dickmorris.com/blog/?p=257#more-257
The California result likely means that Hillary will be the Democratic nominee. And John McCain can beat her. He appeals to Hispanics and to the disaffected Obama voters. The enthusiasm of the Obama voters for a lobbyist free candidate will feed directly into McCain’s message. Hillary’s and Bill’s ties to the special interests will be a big problem for them as they face the patented outsider — McCain.
Now its time for Romney and Huckabee to give up the race. Romney has failed, demonstrably, to translate his funds into delegates. Huckabee has succeeded, equally demonstrably, in translating his charisma, without any funds, into delegates. But if Romney pulls out, so should Huckabee. McCain should unite the party by tapping Huckabee for VP. And then go on to beat Hillary Clinton and spare our nation the agony of her presidency.
Like Dick or not, he is one of the more consistent political pundits and strategists of our time. This election cycle is overflowing with emotional platitudes; it’s time for reason, logic and strategy. McCain with the “right” VP, commitment to listen and embrace the “passion” of the conservative right’s issues, can be a formidable candidate.
If I were an advisor to McCain, I would look at Huck as a possible VP; I would also include Jon Huntsman, Jr, governor of Utah, among the mix of potential VP’s. Jon has the youth, intelligence, charisma, conservative values—he’s a phenomenal orator and his orations are backed with substance.
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Has ANYONE been listening to Glenn Beck when he has had the guy from the OMB (Office of Management & Budgets?) on to talk about the SEVERE economic situation America is in?
We simply CANNOT afford to keep going in the direction we have been.
This guy says we have a 5-10 year window to get our fiscal house in order or we are seriously doomed.
Social Security, illegal immigration, out-of-control spending, the GWOT are all breaking the bank!
Whoever the next POTUS is, they MUST fix these problems or America will surely fall.
None of the "frontrunners" have keyed into this.
ONLY conservative solutions can save us. |
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Coming in to work this morning I heard some interesting facts.
Romney did well in the affluent areas such as Cobb County Ga etal, whereas Huck did well in the rurual areas. Seems that a lot of Mitt's support was coming from the richer Republicans and the grass roots support was going to Huck. Maybe we do have a repeat of 1976. Huck got a lot of attention, and may well be running again in 4 years.
I think it is telling that Romeny's support (not including those that identified with him due to religion) was coming from the more affluent. Hmmmmm maybe that is why rich Talk Radio hosts were so in favor of him. |
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Some act as though conservative speech in the public realm (talk radio, blogs, etc.) is justified only if the majority of Americans agree with it. That is not what freedom of speech means in this pluralistic country. And since when does the majority make something right or true? Hitler was elected to his office by the majority in Germany... How long was Churchhill mocked and ridiculed for his "extreme" position by the more liberal Chamberlains before he was proven right? Truth matters. Principles also matter even more than group conformity.
As far as labeling conservative speech as "vitriol", has anyone listened to the liberals or the supposed moderates? Insults directed against Bush, Christians, and conservatives are rampant all over TV, movies, and college campuses.
Too often one is labeled vitriolic just because he holds an opposing view. But having a passion for truth is not being vitriolic but a good quality for all of us to have. When we disagree, we ought to all reexamine the facts and issues rather than just resort to name calling. I am afraid that those who misunderstand free speech are trying to silence opposing views by vilifying them as being too vitriolic to have the right to speak. |
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... even HE is more unelectable than John McCain. Still, unlike McCain, I would gladly and PROUDLY vote for Newt in ANY election. It is too bad Newt didn't throw in. |
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Oh, now the Romney smear campaign people want to play nice with some flattery.
I ain't buying it.
John McCain will never be the president---yes, do look at the turnout for the dems.
When the financial crisis hits, let the tears flow. |
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Sure he is. Right after he joins Pelosi, Reid and the rest of his fellow democrats and institutes amnesty along with nationalized health care and that's just the beginning. Let's not forget his assaults on free speech, the pro-life movement and oil exploration within our own borders, or do you not think that any of those topics could possibly have any affect the deficit? What about bowing down at the altar of the UN and buying into the whole man-made climate change hoax (and how much do you think that'll cost us?) and I could go on and on? If McCain were to be elected, we would soon be waxing nostalgic for the good-old-days days of mere nine-trillion dollar deficits. Having McCain as the GOP candidate will definitely guarantee one thing, having one of the two socialists, Clinton or Obama, as the next president.
Tell me then to look in the mirror... |
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John McCain lied about his vote to oppose tax cuts, and used an ugly SMEAR of his opponent at the Reagan Library, when it wasn't needed.
Senator McCain has produced a disastrous Finance Campaign Reform.
And the attempt to sell this temperamental, dishonest, Washington Beltway Insider for 3 Decades is embarrassing.
This poster is a strong supporter of President Bush, vilified for being NOT conservative enough.
John McCain is a fraud, and unethical player who believes Hillary Clinton would make a good President.
Those who foolishly voted for the tired, aged, jaded Keating 5 Member have made a huge mistake.
And this is just like asking Democrats to overlook the corruption of the Clintons, to support the Rodham Campaign, merely to win an election.
It is laughable.
John McCain voted to approve Justice Ginsburg...
The Senator has been demeaning Sec. Rumsfeld at every step of the way.
Will that help him defeat Democrats?
The entire thing is pointless.
In response to a serious question in economics, John McCain referenced Senate Associates!
Classic... |
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Matt Lewis,
Several months ago when Rudy was the frontrunner, you clearly stated you could "never" bring yourself to vote for "someone with that position on abortion."
You didn't think the stakes were too high to allow a Democrat to win the general election when YOUR candidate didn't appear to have a chance to win the nomination.
Now that your candidate McCain appears to have the inside track to the nomination, you're acting like you've always been about sitting around the campfire and singing "We Are Family."
You're such a phony. |
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Americans from all walks of life have chosen McCain to be the nominee, and that is a good thing except if you fear Mexicans more than Jihadists. In which case, nothing anybody says will sway your vote and that is your american right to not vote for vote for democrats. Make no mistake about it, McCain is the right man to be commander in chief in our country today, AND HE WILL WIN IN NOVEMBER WITH A BROAD BASE OF SUPPORT FROM ALL AMERICANS! |
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about not having a conservative candidate. Newt was the future of the Republican party, but the conservatives tossed him over for trying to bring them to focus on issues and not on Clintons personal shortcomings. When their strategy of campaigning on Clinton and Lewinsky did not succeed- as Newt had predicted- they threw him out. Next to go was Livingstone. Instead of bright progressive conservative thinkers, we were left with people like DeLay and Boehner. When Newt was fragged is when I began to have serious questions as to where the conservative movement was going. I guess it has gone to being led by Rush, Hannity, Malkin, and Coulter. A amjority is not going to follow them. Seriously, it is time for taking a good look in the mirror. The Republicans had control of both Houses and the Prsidency. Instead of more limited government and less spending, we now have nearly a 9 trillion dollar deficit. Again ,look in the mirror. Most of the people responsible were supposed conservatives. It was not the principles of Reagan, It became the principles of pork barrel spending. Remember the "bridge to nowhere" was the project of a Republican. Now that same Republican wants a "ferry to nowhere" with another earmark. Without Newt to lead the way, I seriously wonder how oour budget will ever be reduced, much less the deficit. At least everyone should agree that McCain will do all he can to curb needless spending. |
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Lawdaddy, you're right. I should have written, "best promote the conservative cause" in place of "best help the party". |
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Mitt is toast but don't count Huck out yet. I'm a Paul supporter and no great friend of Huck's but this is starting to line up favorable for the berry boy. If conservatives manage to stop McCain, Huck will take the nomination. And based on yesterday's activities, we may throw a few dozen delegates his way also. |
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Juan McCain, Excellent postings, excellent observations. I like.
Defeat McCain or McCain WILL defeat you. |
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Ha, Ha. I doubt seriously that God is on the side of politician who voted to DENY HEALTH CARE to unwanted babies.
I believe we have stayed so far from our history and our constitution (and we have certainly thrown God's blessings back in His face), that He is basically withdrawing His protection and giving us "Babes as leaders". You can laugh and call me names all you want. This scenario makes more sense to me than anything else I've seen posited. |
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What makes you think conservative Republicans will have ANY interest in helping the party if McCain is the nominee?
When John McCain and his followers get crushed in November, it will be the result of their OWN doing. They chose him, they can deal with the results.
I will be standing by to help pick up the pieces when the dust has settled and McCain has crawled back under his rock. |
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At this point Hillary is a lost cause. Obama has proven her equal and it is just a matter of time before the majority of the Dems move toward Obama as the more electable candidate.
We have to stop McCain and get a decent candidate out of a brokered convention. It is our only hope. |
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Two observations:
1) McCain has built an insurmountable lead and will go on to win the nomination.
2) McCain has no chance of winning the presidency in November.
Given these conditions, how can Republicans in states with upcoming primaries best help the party? Answer: by voting for Hillary over Barack in states with open primaries!
There is little question that Hillary has the potential to inflict the same sort of damage on the Democratic Party that George Bush has on ours. Unlike Barack, Hillary is a divisive, loathsome, duplicitous machine politician utterly incapable of inspiring or uniting the American people. She will alienate the anti-war left by hedging in Iraq, which will also serve to destabilize the region. Her domestic policies will stifle production. The malinvestments induced by the Fed’s orgy of printing during the past decade will also be liquidated over the next four years no matter who is president. Let her take the blame for the resulting economic recession.
Hillary at the helm means Republicans in Congress might actually advocate for limited government again, and a weak Hillary could induce actual conservatives to run in 2012.
In sum, we need Hillary in the White House!
I think Republican voters can vote for Hillary in these remaining states: IN MS TX VT VA WI OH(quasi)
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If Romney can take this all of the way to a brokered convention it will be best for the Party.
Even if we had to go to someone other than Romney or Huckabee we as a party would be better off than with McCain at the head of the ticket.
There has to be someone out there who, in a brokered convention, would be a better nominee than McCain.
Romney is a means of getting to a brokered convention. I would be happy if he won but just about anyone is better than McCain.
We need a ticket that can run against Obama and McCain is not that ticket.
Hillary has most of her best states behind her. She is splitting the white vote, losing the black vote and getting about 2/3s of the Hispanic vote. TX is the only state left with a lot of Hispanics.
The Dems will probably go to a brokered convention. Our best hope at this point is to stop McCain and come up with an alternative who really represents the Party. |
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... could make conservatives pray for a candidate like Bob Dole. |
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I'M VOTING FOR "NONE OF THE ABOVE", IT PROBABLY CAN GET MORE DONE IN WASHINGTON IF ELECTED. |
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ChuckP nailed it, I love it:
"The DNC will run a commercial in late October showing McCain using profanity to try to browbeat Putin into doing something, and the next frame will be the same nuclear bomb detonating as was shown in the "Daisy" commercial that doomed Goldwater. The scary thing is that this commercial could be true. But no matter, McCain will never be president."
McTraitor will lose in the greatest defeat in the history of this country. @ss-kissed by and then thrown overboard to his own MSM dogs. They've already started to turn on him, in the middle of McCain's lack-luster speeches they'll cut in mid-sentence to Obama.
Let's make sure McTraitor is not only defeated but politically destroyed. |
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If the GOP thinks they can continue to import cheap labor for their donors at the expense of the citizens, they will. I will not vote for that again. If we continue to play the game of "the other guy is worse", we will lose our country. Sorry, but I will not participate in that game any longer. The GOP power brokers think we will vote for "anybody but a Democrat" so they can continue to ignore securing the borders and enforcing the laws. The levers of power and the money in the GOP are all in the hands of the cheap labor express. They do not want anyone who WOULD enforce the laws and secure the border. I WANT to vote for a GOP candidate in Nov.'08, I WILL NOT vote for any of the amnesty supporters. If it takes crushing the GOP so a new party representing American citizens can arise, so be it.
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So if god is in control, and Obama is going to win, does that mean god is on Obama's side? Doesn't god know that Obama is an "empty suit"? Oh, he must be under the spell of the MSM... |
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be the next president - even the Democrat party establishment is sick of the Clintons. No way can John McCain beat Obama - An irritable old white guy against a young, inspiring black guy? True conservatives will not hold their noses for McCain and moderate/liberal Republicans will fall under the spell of the empty suit's rherotic and cross over.
It may be the salvation of the Republican Party (or the making of the Constitution Party). We'll see.
In any event, life goes on and God is in control. |
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I'd vote for a yellow dog before I'd vote for McCain.
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You need to give up gambling. It's a losing proposition anyway. Look how rich the indian reservations are getting, what sweet revenge for them.
I do what is right according to the Biblical principles I live by and the common sense given to all of us by the Creator.
Sorry, political party gambling is no way to live. |
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The repeated attempts to portray Juan McCain as "Mr. Conservative" only pushes THIS conservative farther and farther away.
If McCain would come clean and say:
"You know what? I have been a total and complete @#&* over the last 25 years. I admit that. I have abandoned my party. I have insulted my constituents. I have @$&*ed on the grave of Ronald Reagan. I am truly sorry and I beg my party's forgiveness. In return, I promise, in writing, to do X, Y, X,... And if I DO NOT do those things, I will resign as President. End of story. I will shut my trap and go off into the sunset."
If McCain would say something like this, I MIGHT consider voting for him. Neither are likely to occur. |
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I usually like what Hugh has to say but he just doesn't have his thinking cap on this time.
Defeat McCain - deny the Whitehouse to a traitor, and regroup and try again in 4 years. A Dem victory will motivate the Repubs to regroup, find their roots and come back much stronger. Conservatives: if McCain wins you will be the first ones McCain comes looking for at dawn with a loaded gun in his hand to "cleanse" the New Republican Party.
If the election is close, either sit it out or vote Mickey Mouse or Ron Paul or whatever you please. If the election if close, vote Dem.
Don't let a liberal wear a Republican badge while trashing the Republican party on your watch, voters. |
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As an independent and moderate, I am warming up to McCain. The purists of the Repubs are now marginalized. All the media, blogs, etc. didn't accomplish the goals to throw Mitt into the lead. The conservatives can live their life anyway they want. Why do you need the govn't to run your life and everyone elses with laws that tell everyone else how to live? Do you need that much control in your life to provide discipline? Get over it. McCain will beat Hillary. No one wants to live in the past. |
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This is a nice theory, but we are just whistling in the wind. Even if conservatives hold their nose and vote for McCain, it is not going to result hin his election. He is going to run as an insider, and his chances are substantially worse than Dole's in 96. And Dole was not a cantkerous jerk who alienated those upon whom he depended for success.
The DNC will run a commercial in late October showing McCain using profanity to try to browbeat Putin into doing something, and the next frame will be the same nuclear bomb detonating as was shown in the "Daisy" commercial that doomed Goldwater. The scary thing is that this commercial could be true. But no matter, McCain will never be president. |
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Not sure I understood your point.
You wrote: "Time for Republicans in upcoming open-primary states to vote for Hillary over Barack".
Are you suggesting that's what's happening (or are you recommending it?).
It's probably not a bad idea for folks to do that actually. If nominated, she's beatable, but if she did get elected, she'd do alot less damage that Sen O-Rockstar. |
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Excellent posts, both.
There have been a veritable sea of posts recently about "real" or "true" conservatives, to mean VERY conservative. If one happened to be anything short of on fire about the immigration bill, one would not qualify for the "real" and "true" anointments.
I understand (and admire in some cases) the staunchness of some, and believe we need the far wings of both parties to enrich the dialog, and to uphold the proper tension, which is what our founders intended. I prefer that to too much unity.
Your posts are a minority here at TH, but it's good to recall that the majority here at TH is not the majority out there. The voting public is going to be much more moderate. That's painful for many who post here. |
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If we are going to talk about ill-informed and uneducated, the word is tripe not trype and it would be get out THERE and vote not get out THEIR. |
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Romney's new campaign slogan? |
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Voice of Reason,
A full disclosure of the many leftist/socialist positions McCain has taken over the last five to six years--1st Amendment breach per McCain Feingold, Gitmo, waterboarding, amnesty for illegal aliens per McCain-Kennedy, battling pro-life forces in WI in a friend of court brief, etc--does not constitute a smear. However, for those who are in denial and blindly following McCain over the cliff, the truth can be disturbing, Voice of Reason, huh? |
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Anyone who noticed how many more Democratic votes were cast than Republican votes all over the country last night should easily conclude that this thing is over.
Time for Republicans in upcoming open-primary states to vote for Hillary over Barack. |
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Like Matt. They don't believe the known facts about John McCain. Their arguments defy logic, reason and history.
McCain cannot/will not be persuaded to care about conservatives, or conservative causes.
His entire senate career is about poking conservatives in the eye with his thumb, and all about cuddling up to dems for popularity.
What in the heck makes anyone stupidly believe McCain will change now? |
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Doesn't the call to purify the party have a Trotskyite sound to it? Or maybe dare say even a Hitleresque sound? Is absolute lockstep agreement necessary to be a Republican nominee? If so, I fear it is going to be a rather small party. The people like Rush, Hannity, Malkin, and Coulter are turning off not only Independents and conservative Democrats, but also everyone not in the far right wing. Purity of thought is not a good thing, it is a recipe for mob rule. Mao sent people to reeducation camps in the Cultural Revolution if they didn't adhere to the party line. Is that really what the conservative movement is coming to? If so, I dare say Reagan and Goldwater would not recognize the movement they started. Their message was anti-group think. It was putting decisions in the hands of the people, not talk radio. Reagan's greatest gift was his ability to connect with everyone, to make everyone see that they have a chance to impact America's future. It was not to offer decrees from high on Mount EIB for everyone to follow. I really fear any group that insists on purity of thought to advance its cause. The beauty of the original conservative movement from Burke through Reagan was that power flowed up from the grass roots, the people, to their leaders not down from talking heads who give their minions marching orders and talking points for the day. |
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I guess we'll see if you democraps and liberal republicans can put him in the white house without us, well me anyway! |
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A true patriot wouldn't lie and give in to Liberals like Kennedy, Feingold, Lieberman. A true patriot wouldn't give in in the battle to confirm conservative judges and lead the gang of 14 to compromise. A true patriot wouldn't do nothing in the Keating Saving and Loan Scandel and cost the American People Billions of Dollars. A true patriot wouldn't sell out to Mexico and be more interested in giving to ILLEGAL Aliens than the American People. Let John McCain go run for president of Mexico.
Oh, yeah, war hero. A true patriot wouldn't use what happened 30 years ago as a weapon to con others that he deserves Power. Most war heros are humble. |
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McStain has chosen his team--Juan Hernandez. McLiar is a traitor to his country. His new country is Mexico. I am one vertan who says no. Yes America will suffer. America is already suffering the the ilk of McEvil. The enemy is already here, thanks to McShamnesty. And, I don't mean immigrants. The enemey is the Juan Hernadez's army of illegal invaders--the murderers, the druggies, the leaches. The ones who fill our jails, drug our kids, and rape of wives and daughters. The diseased who bring in TB, Hep, collera, the Plague, and Aids. They refuse to learn our language, they overcrowd our schools, drive drunk on our roads, and clog our hospitals. They will continue to flood in in droves with their hands held out. All the Dems and McAmnesty will do is give them our hard-earned dollars, jam them in our already over-croweded schools, and break our medical system to service them. Americans are already dying on the roads, our children are being dumbed down, our sick die in the waiting rooms of our hospitals, the worker is hurt by the tax system, our economy is burried under regulatory abuse, and busniesses salivates at the prospect of slave labor. We will all continue to suffer and the Washington elite will continue to profit through abuse of power. If a Republican is in charge, we will get the blame. I will not be part. America will shudder to its core and then, only then, will they see the error of their ways. |
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Hugh: Put Humpty Dumpty Together Before St. Paul
I know that among my readers, Hugh Hewitt is mocked with regularity for his enthusiasm and optimism regarding Mitt Romney and his chances.
But note his latest posting:
At the same time, Romney and Huckabee ought to begin to note Senator McCain's lead and urge their followers to recognize that if they cannot come back they and their followers will have to come in and join the party's eventual nominee. Senator McCain would do well to make a similar statement though his lead is significant and his collapse unlikely. Putting Humpty Dumpty together again cannot wait for St. Paul. Each of the three need to strike some common chords again and again, beginning with why the GOP needs to retain the White House, regardless of who its nominee is.
There are seven reasons for anyone to support the eventual nominee no matter who it is: The war and six Supreme Court justices over the age of 68.
Hugh is a party man, and a conservative, and a guy who keeps his eye on the long term. (Like him, I never buy into arguments that you win later by losing now.) It's been fun to giggle at how Hugh can find the silver lining to every dark cloud over the Romney campaign, but we ought to salute him for noting the big picture and saying that he'll vote for the more conservative choice in the general election, no matter how strong his passions in the primary
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All of talk radio was against John McCain. So was the blogosphere. So was Town Hall.
Yet he won.
What does that say about the influence of right wing media on its supposed audience?
What really needs to be said is that talk radio and the right mouth pieces like Town Hall don't speak for millions of conservatives, but rather a small minority.
I am such a conservative. I can't stand right wing radio and I've always felt that the nasty, vitriol like the "traitor" kind of vitriol that Rush Limbaugh heaped on McCain doesn't represent conservatives at large.
And now we know this is true.
The question is will any lessoned be learned by this?
Answer: no.
Because ultimately right wing radio isn't about the right wing but about making money being knee jerk reactionarys to knee jerk audiences.
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Given the level of sheer hate and vitriol here over the last couple of days, I'd say there's a better chance of Satan needing snowshoes than McCain supporters and the Romney squad coming together to sing Kubaya 'round the big tent campfire. |
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I understand Hugh's viewpoint, but not even the prospect of a Hillary presidency can make me pull the lever for McCain. Today is Reagan's birthday, and McCain is spitting on his grave. Screw him. |
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