Monday, October 05, 2009
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Leftists Group Hopes to Disrupt Military Recruiting With National Protest
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Posted by:
Meredith Jessup at
3:21 PM
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Tomorrow, October 6, an anti-military recruiter-bashing organization called "We are Not Your Soldiers" his staging a nationwide protest to mark the anniversary of the invasion of Afghanistan. Young school kids are being encouraged to distribute letters of protest to teachers and administration in hopes the school will disallow military recruiters' access to high school and college campuses.
When protesting, kids are also being encouraged to "assure the media are present." The driving-force behind the protest is the anti-American Communist-founded World Can't Wait organization.
[Military recruiters] roll up in their Hummers talking about strength and discipline, about how the military will give you a “life with a purpose”. But what kind of purpose?You can kill and torture innocent people – and probably ruin your own life because of what you’ve seen and done – for an empire that causes misery for the planet, or… you can be about putting an end to all that and creating a better world. In the past, some of these demonstrations have even turned violent against military recruiters and recruiting stations. Be aware of what is going on your kids' schools and be prepared to ask tough questions. Will your child's school be participating?
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May I suggest you go and demonstrate about military recruiting in Iraq or Afganistan, it would make a bigger splash over there and you might get killed in the process. |
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"The driving-force behind the protest is the anti-American Communist-founded World Can't Wait organization."
Where did you get that information? The links aren't very helpful.
Which communist founded World Can't Wait, the one who lives in Berkeley or the one who lives in New York? |
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I always thought that the military was a good way to start for a young person who didn't have the means to get ahead on their own.The fact that we have a volunteer military says a lot for the young to volunteer.
In peace time they give at least four years to military service for the opportunities they get for a decent shot at life from the military.For the past eight years young Americans have been volunteering for war.
Regardless of what you think of these wars these young people are the best of the best that this country has to offer.
God Bless these young people with that kind of courage.And God Damn the politicians and the protestors who are such spineless cowards. |
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"Which communist founded World Can't Wait, the one who lives in Berkeley or the one who lives in New York?"
World Can't Wait was formed in January 2005. Its headquarters is in New York City. It was initiated by supporters of the Revolutionary Communist Party, including Sunsara Taylor and Travis Morales.
"Of all the tyrants and oppressors in the world, there is none that has caused more untold misery and committed more screaming injustices against the people of the world than the rulers of the U.S"
~RCP
"1) The whole system we now live under is based on exploitation—here and all over the world. It is completely worthless and no basic change for the better can come about until this system is overthrown.
2) Many different groups will protest and rebel against things this system does, and these protests and rebellions should be supported and strengthened. Yet it is only those with nothing to lose but their chains who can be the backbone of a struggle to actually overthrow this system and create a new system that will put an end to exploitation and help pave the way to a whole new world.
3) Such a revolutionary struggle is possible. There is a political Party that can lead such a struggle, a political Party that speaks and acts for those with nothing to lose but their chains: The Revolutionary Communist Party, USA."
~Bob Avakian, Chairman, RCP
We will let you draw up the complete list of members even though have proven to be research challenged. You can do it while listening to the non-existent talk radio shows on NPR. How are those glowing tubes in your radio holding up? You might wish to upgrade some day. |
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returns.
Free speech, folks.
When the war sacrifices are spread throughout the land, instead of just the few who sign up, well, then maybe these two ridiculous 'wars' will be over. |
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Parentheses shows what I think of the RCP.
From my blog...in 2007.
http://neestake.blogtownhall.com/2007/04/25/lefties_we_are_ not_commies.thtml
We are proletarian internationalists. We should promote respect for the cultures and languages of oppressed peoples and equality among all nationalities.** (And especially if you are a terrorist who seeks to destroy the USA and all it stands for.)
Don't insult or ridicule other people's race or nationality, not even in jokes. **(Does this mean Bill Cosby is the black spade of his race for calling it like it is?)
Don't use your position as political leader among the masses for personal gain -- financially, to take sexual advantage, etc. (You mean like Harry Reid, Ted Kennedy, Bubba Clinton, Hilary, Soros, Moore, and the Pied Piper???)
Don't attempt to get people to support or join the Party by threatening them. Party members must use the method of persuasion and education among the masses. **(Education? ha. More like treating them stupid. No, don’t do that, just go on your blogs and talk about what crazy right wing nuts we are to believe in Liberty and Freedom!) |
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Remember that the freedom goes both ways. The libtards seem to think it only holds to them. Fu%k them. |
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where has your freedom of speech been abridged or removed? Examples, please? (and don't say you should be able to pray in school....that isn't a freedom of speech issue). |
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1) There are no "kids" signing up for the military. These are men and women.
2) And who thinks that recruiters, who have served in the military, are going to be afraid to do their job as recruiters.
3) Can someone please define "imperialist" for me? If we are imperialists, what the heck was Tojo's Japan?
This is an insult to everyone who has joined the military. My son had a lot of college choices, most with scholarships, but he chose USNA. Not for the opportunity but for the opportunity to serve.
And Scep? Just because we stopped showing up doesn't mean the bad guys would follow suit. We know you're an idiot, you don't have to keep proving it. |
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if I jump in.
How about the recruiter's freedom of speech? Are not these protesters attempting to infringe on that?
And while I'm at it, there are freedom is speech issues every day on college campuses. Pro Life groups not being allowed to protest on campus, students getting an F on papers where the professor doesn't agree with the premise. For God's sake, last week a video was posted of someone who wasn't allowed to post a Dave Barry quote. |
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"There are no "kids" signing up for the military. These are men and women." No, they are not. My friend's son was 17 and about to start his senior year when the recruiter came on campus and pushed, and pushed, and pushed. That's a child. And the recruiters take advantage of children.
"2) And who thinks that recruiters, who have served in the military, are going to be afraid to do their job as recruiters." Many are, because parents of kids like the one I described above complain. If I had a kid who was recruited like that, I'd be angry too. They are fed all kinds of lies. My friend took his son to retired Marines who convinced the kid to go to college first, and see if later he wanted to still be in the military.
"3) Can someone please define "imperialist" for me? If we are imperialists, what the heck was Tojo's Japan?"
We are not imperialists. England was when they were empire building.
"This is an insult to everyone who has joined the military. My son had a lot of college choices, most with scholarships, but he chose USNA. Not for the opportunity but for the opportunity to serve." Navy? Smart move. Not too much combat. Pretty safe. Bright kid of yours.
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how about some concrete examples, not the usual list that you (like the far left) like to spew.
My kid took a class from a prof with whom he disagreed. He got an A, with a note that said "I disagree with your hypothesis, but you proved it. Keep working hard."
Most kids who think they get a bad grade because they disagree with their prof get the grade because they don't do the proper research. They just list the canards you do. |
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Regarding my #3 comment, I was responding to the video where America was called imperialist. I know we're not imperialists and so do you. I suggest you inform the video makers.
17 years old a kid? Well, he's a year short of being able to marry, able to make college choices. Heck, a 17 year old female can get an abortion. Are some 17 year olds younger than others? Yeah. But that doesn't mean all 17-year olds are "kids". The ones in my life aren't. They've all talked to recruiters.
And FYI, my kid is going Marines. And yes, he is bright. But better than bright, he's decent. |
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What's the use to even post, the loud mouthed its unfair crowd, will chant the mantra; give peace a chance. They do not understand the sacrifice of Seadog, and once a marine always a marine, and their brothers in arms have made. They understand not what is lost. They understand not of why they serve. They see not their heart and their dignity. They see not the gaping holes in their life, service has made. away from loved ones, away from personnel goals. Tethered to the idea, chained to a goal. Noble in the pursuit, oh heck what's the use.
They understand not, what it means to have freedom lost. They think that men like Chavez, Castro, and the lot can be reasoned with, peace can be got. its when this fanciful debating gets into motion, that leaders get lost, and when backed into a corner, after reality stands clear, the men and women who serve will have to pay interest on the cost. Thank God we have them thank God there are there. they are the stop gap to the give peace a chance crowd. |
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Well, since your "kid" got an A, that certainly proves all teachers are open minded.
Give me a break. You asked for examples of infringement on free speech and I mentioned college campuses.
If you deny there's a problem there then there's nothing to talk about. I'm glad your "kid" hasn't had a problem but there are plenty who have, mine included.
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military service protesters = COWARDS....
Plain & simple....... |
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Where did you get that information? The links aren't very helpful.
Which communist founded World Can't Wait, the one who lives in Berkeley or the one who lives in New York?
Check Wiki--Its headquarters is in New York City. It was initiated by supporters of the Revolutionary Communist Party, including Sunsara Taylor and Travis Morales. World Can't Wait's steering committee includes a broader array of political affiliations, though members who have criticized the RCP were forbidden from attending World Can't Wait's 2008 national conference. |
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service.
17 year old kids should be left alone. When they are adults, no problem. At 17, my kids were finishing senior year. Recruiters should not be allowed on campus, whether for Mickey D's or the army. They should be able to advertise to the parents, via the school email or newspaper, and then let the kids and the parents decide.
I can't regulate what someone making a video says or does. The one thing this country has not done is empire build, which is why I get angry when we are the ones trying to fix Africa or the mid east when it was the imperialism of other nations that caused those problems.
We beat the Nazis and Japan in 4 years. Bush took his eye off the Afghanistan ball. Obama has to figure out how to fix what Bush broke. When people here refuse to accept that fact (and it is a fact...Bush had his eye on Iraq, and even then, didn't do that one right either until the surge), it angers me. This isn't a left/right issue. It is a negligence issue...Bush was negligent. |
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not true at all. Many conservatives (Roger Hedgecock among them) want us to come home from Afghanistan. 8 years is enough.
And many do not want their children to be in a war. We have no draft now, but who knows. And I can assure you that if there is a draft, there will be huge anti-war protests. That's the only reason this war has dragged on--selective loss of children. |
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I guess I should be glad that we got this far until Bush was mentioned.
Whether or not Bush was negligent has nothing to do with whether or not recruiters should be allowed on campus and if they are, whether their presence should be protested. And when the protesters are making inaccurate claims (that America fights racist wars and is imperialist), well, they don't do much for their cause.
I don't have a problem with recruiters. You do. My 17 year olds are capable of handling that type of information. Yours need to be left alone. I think I'm building a case for school choice here ...
We keep treating these kids like "just kids" and we wonder why they have such prolonged adolescence? If they are old enough for instructions on how to use a condom or to decide to have an abortion they are old enough to consider the military.
And no need to thank my son (yet); he actually hates to be in uniform in public because he hasn't done anything yet. Although the last 3 years have been grueling. But I thank you (and I'm sure he would) for the sentiment. |
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piece of shyte, "kayboom"? Some say you are, but whatever, I'm gonna' treat you like you are. She/you are notorious here at Th, and a laughing stock, as well. On par with another notorious liar, "dr" Roxana Meyer. What a group, you people are, liars all, changing your handle so you can lie some more! How do you people make it, in real life. Do you work, and if so, who would hire you. Everyone of you, is patently dishonest. "kayboom" to "loony lonny" to the big shot democrat insider, bob munck. None of you can tell the truth, you've all been caught lying. Yet you continue to post, changing your handle if need be, always attempting to hide your lack of character. What an amassing group of immoral individuals you are! Breathtaking, really. |
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To quote William F. Buckley:
"Liberals say they want diversity of opinion and are flabbergasted when someone disagrees with them."
This applies to political correctness, speech codes, defining hate speech as something you disagree with, fairness doctrine for talk radio, trying to define Fox News as not news, stating there were few protesters at the "Tea Parties" etc.
Hundreds of examples exist.
I don't pray, but the First Amendment states: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances."
Notice "the free exercise thereof" clause. Kinda blows holes in your argument.
There is no wall of separation of church and state enacted into law. It was mentioned in a letter from Thomas Jefferson. |
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I think all kids should spend some time serving their country....
military is one way...
so is the Peace Corp
Americorp...
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just who will defend the country if your successful? Or, do you think that your high mindedness will somehow render the country's enemies, impotent? The shear weight of your words, your overwhelming love for them, will so dazzle them, that they will unstrap their C4 belts, discontinue blowing themselves up, and forever love your anti-male, female centric culture! One that cherishes and encourages, men sticking their "johnsons" into other men rectums. One where there is no limit, no depravity, no craven desire too, aberrant that it would not endorse, or do! Of course, Islam will see the error of their ways, surrender, and fall prostrate in front of you. Proclaiming that the Koran is a lie, and "Rules for Radicals" will be their guide from this day forward. |
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"My friend's son was 17 and about to start his senior year when the recruiter came on campus and pushed, and pushed, and pushed. That's a child."
That 17 year old child can drive a car, that child can have sex, that child can get an abortion for his girlfriend without their parents' knowledge. Funny how he is a wee bairn when it comes to talking to a military recruiter. |
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How bizarre that you launch into some sexual fantasy!
Who will defend our country? The military, same as now. |
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New Englanders belonging to the Federalist party motivated by economic and political interests, challenged the constitutional legitimacy of the War of 1812.
The Mexican War was challenged in the North, where interest in western expansion reinforced antislavery principles
Opposition to the Civil War in the border states and the Ohio River valley fused local economic and cultural interests with a principled defense of states' rights.
Fellowship of Reconciliation (FOR, 1915) and the War Resisters League (WRL, 1921). Some, like the American Friends Service Committee (1917),
the political right supported the isolationist America First movement.
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Editor-in-Chief: Paul S. Boyer 2001
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Frances Early , A World without War: How U.S. Feminists and Pacifists Resisted World War I, 1997. |
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Are you laucnhing into a "legally remove Obama" platform?
I can tell by looking at the titles, how wonderful they must be. A world without war. lets get rid of the suicide bombers first. I guess you must be in support of these knuckle-headed protestors
All we are saying is give peace a chance. I am willing to follow the beatles lead as soon as they send me there money, because ALL YOU NEED IS LOVE.
This is a two way street |
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that after they completely undermine our voluntary military, the commies who sponsored this sh*t will draft all our kids into their own commie army. then the commies will have our kids fighting against each other or right back in the middle east again.
folks we are witnessing the end of america. just see dickmorris on you tube this week. the news is bad -- public option coming at us like a roman polanski sodomy-rape --- and there is nothing we can do. Obama just signed over our sovereignty to an international organization and we will be a banana republic in less than 10 years. Revolutionary war was for nothing, civil war was for nothing, World war 2 was for nothing, civil rights was for nothing, all wars were for nothing because Obama and his leftists puppet masters have just sold us into HELL.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbTCmSdHvrk |
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Americans organizing in opposition to a war..has been a part of the American culture since at least 1812.
Diccck Morris is the end of America! That you would look to an amoral political whorre for direction speaks volumes about you. |
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it always bothered me at the end of Vietnam, we were told not to wear our uniforms while traveling. Too many servicemen getting beat up and harassed. What a great time. had a young college porf. asme as me when i started college. She was a typical, anti war type, and she wwas teaching her thesis. Something about Vietnam. I stood up in class and dis agreed. after class, she called me into her office. told me to drop the class or she would flunk me.
G.I.'s bear the burnt of the winds of political change. That's a hard core reality. and don't ever call me Morris again. He's a converted piece of pooh. |
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"I stood up in class and dis agreed. after class, she called me into her office. told me to drop the class or she would flunk me. "
If that's what really happened. |
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THE STUPID LEFTISTS ARE LOST IN SPACE! |
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GOD BLESS OUR U.S TROOPS!
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Amen to that. If it wasn't for our military, this country wouldn't exist and people wouldn't be allowed to make stupid comments.
Wait....Must be Bush's fault? |
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Since China just celebrated its 60th Anv. of Communism, lets look at some numbers, and while were at it why don't you tell the kids you are trying to recruit the real story, as to has committed the most atrocities and the biggest Oppressor before you hand them a rifle and tell them to MURDER their own family..
Communist takeover and war. China 1946-1949
"The UN Human Rights Commission came back with tales of wanton terror and abuse that left the entire world shaking with rage. The UN documented:
31.2 million dead, buried in mass graves.
64.25 million crippled and uncompensated.... Read More
71.8 million simply disappeared.
103.7 million arrested and held incommunicado for at least 30 days without ever being charged, all for political offenses that included being reported as owning a Bible or other "counterrevolutionary sympathies."
I have the utmost respect for the youth of the United States who Volunteer,their loyalties are to their Country. |
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I'll give you our nutty anti-war protesters anytime for your nutty TEA party protesters. Neither one of them have any more worth than a rat's patootie. |
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http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/warstat1.htm#Chinese
Documented #'s of civilians killed by Commies |
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Both our sons are in the Army, both RANGERS one a Sgt the other a Cpl. They are both making excellent money, with Benefits they too both had full ROTC scholarships to College, but instead left college to SERVE their Country. All the while, some of there friends are still living at home with mommy and Daddy flat broke,have had kids out of wedlock, can't pay child support and won't do anything with their lives..SO HOW IS BEING IN THE MILITARY A BAD THING? ITS NOT. |
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Michael writes: Tuesday, October, 06, 2009 1:51 AM
The Military is a Good start
Both our sons are in the Army, both RANGERS one a Sgt the other a Cpl. They are both making excellent money, with Benefits they too both had full ROTC scholarships to College, but instead left college to SERVE their Country. All the while, some of there friends are still living at home with mommy and Daddy flat broke,have had kids out of wedlock, can't pay child support and won't do anything with their lives..SO HOW IS BEING IN THE MILITARY A BAD THING? ITS NOT
Arch says
You are correct Michael. Those kids of which you speak are benefiting from the valor of soldiers as you sons. Most will become sucked into the libtard vortex and willingly give up liberty for us all. It would be better if they all died and left the rest of us alone! |
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Shame on you for saying that young people should die!
Regardless of political views, human life should be protected and preserved.
I am a conservative to the bone, but would fight to protect the life of my liberal neighbor. That is what decent people do. |
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"Since China just celebrated its 60th Anv. of Communism..."
Which leads one to wonder why the Empire State building was lighted with red and yellow in honor the anniversary. Better to have let it entirely go dark in memory of those innocent citizens of China who were murdered, maimed, and denied their freedom and liberty by the communist regime.
Obama and his leftist supporters are a menace to our freedom and liberty. |
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god bless your son..Septic has NO understanding of decency, honor and courage. He/she being a liberal is still stuck in childhood where it's me me me..back in the Vietnam era, they weren't so much interested in saving people from war be they the population of vietnam or our own troops..they were and always have been interested in their own sorry skins. The demonstrators are no different than the lice that protested 40 years ago..
My grandson just came off his first deployment as a Navy medic with the Marines and he's proudest of the fact he is serving with them. We have seen him mature in the two years since he's enlisted.
Re: Septics reference to a 17 year old being a "kid"..the Civil War was won by many of those kinds of 'kid's for example.
What's so funny, though is Septic and his/her ilk
haven't a problem with that 15 year old "kid"
being told to use a condom when he meets with that adult homosexual by one of Barry's cronies.
It's okay for a 'kid' to have sex with an adult homosexual but not okay for a kid to enlist..
typical lefty/progressive/reprobate thinking..... |
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Thanks to Gomer and Meredith. I stand corrected: I said there were two communists in the United States, and it is clear from the information provided that there are at least three. |
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"...there are at least three..."
You should really begin to take responsibility for your ignorance. It's been on display here for some time and it is becoming tiresome. |
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@Homer Noble
I agree with you Sir. Obama is definitely a menace to this Country and the freedom we have. I Honestly feel he is doing nothing. His cronies are the ones telling him what to do and he pencil whips his approval. He is just a face in the white house.
As for the Empire state Building, and these leftists Commies, China is always given a free pass when it comes to the Atrocities they have committed. If any leftists were to actually look at the the Numbers of people murdered in the Name of Communism, (namely Russia and China)The United States Pales in Comparison even with the wars and Conflicts we have been engaged in. As to the subject of recruiters on Campuses, they allow college recruiters, and we know what young people do at college Drugs, Booze, sex, and study. I don't understand, Liberals if you have a choice to go and earn a paycheck, get benefits, get money for college so on, or go into debt, be broke all the time, no benefits etc. I as a young adult would chose the military.(and I did). But being a veteran I also know that the military is not for all, but the choice should still be there..Anyway I digress..Have a great day Sir, and keep faith in our Country, the people will make a stand against this Poser of a president.. |
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