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Tuesday, October 03, 2006
Don't Resign, Speaker Hastert. Swing Back.
Posted by: Hugh Hewitt at 9:49 AM

The Washington Times wants Speaker Hastert to resign.  To do so would be to capitulate to Democratic-activist-induced and MSM-abetted hysteria.  Not only should Hastert not resign, he should use every opportunity to swing back hard at a MSM deeply compromised by its ideological extremism and a Democratic Party committed to retreat and defeat in Iraq and fecklessness in the war generally.  If Republican candidates recognize that the "clamor" is just the echo chamber, they'll quickly come to understand that this is another Wellstone Memorial Service moment, when the left has persuaded itself that the American electorate is stupid and easily stampeded, and where overreaching appeals to emotional and unjust conclusions cannot be sustained in the new media environment.

Hastert did not know that Foley was a predator, only that Foley had sent a too-friendly e-mail to one teenage page, the sort of e-mail that would have been completely unremarkable if it hadn't come from a gay Congressman. To have attempted to censure Foley for that e-mail would have been to impose a rule on Congressmen concerning their contacts with minor pages and interns that has no precedent anywhere.  The warning about appropriateness that Foley did receive is exactly what ought to have happened and did.

Confirmation of that conclusion is provided by two newspapers.

Until Friday Hastert and other GOP Congressmen knew only what Florida newspapers knew and which those newspapers considered insufficiently newsworthy to run a story about.  From today's New York Times:

The St. Petersburg Times and The Miami Herald received copies of an e-mail exchange between Mr. Foley, Republican of Florida, and a teenager, but neither paper gathered enough solid material to publish a story, according to statements by the papers’ editors.

It was not until the exchanges were published online last week, first by an anonymous blogger, then on the ABC News Web site, that the story gained momentum and grew more damaging as other teenagers came forward.

The trickle of information about Mr. Foley’s messages, first made known to the news media almost a year ago, has raised questions not only for Congressional officials but also for news organizations about how to handle anonymous sources making explosive accusations in an election year....

The St. Petersburg Times said that last November, it received copies of an e-mail exchange between Mr. Foley and a former page from Louisiana. The newspaper said the boy, who was under age, did not want his name used, and the paper said it did not want to publish accusations based on unnamed sources. The Miami Herald apparently received the same information, although it is not clear when it received it.

Two major newspapers have known about the e-mail for eleven months.  There was no story because there was no scandal in the e-mails, only in the IMs, which shock and outrage everyone who reads them, and which have been concealed somewhere for more than three years --itself a scandal, but not one to be laid on the Speaker.

Not surprisingly, a Democratic field weakened by its leadership's insistence on retreat from Iraq and refusal to deal with the realities of the war have seized on the scandal:

Across the country, in competitive and noncompetitive races, Democrats seized on an issue that they said was resonating with voters. In an effort coordinated in Washington by the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, the party’s candidates urged their Republican opponents to call for the resignation of Mr. Hastert and other leaders.

In Indiana, Baron Hill, a Democratic candidate for a House seat, asked the incumbent, Representative Mike Sodrel, a first-term Republican, to reject any financial contributions from the national party. In North Carolina, where Representative Robin Hayes, a Republican, is engaged in a tough campaign fight, the state Democratic Party issued a statement asking, “Who does Robin Hayes stand up for — Mark Foley and the Republican House leadership or under-age children?”

Unless someone has evidence that Hastert or anyone else knew more than the e-mail exchange which two newspapers deemed not newsworthy, the demands for Hastert's resignation will become increasingly absurd against both the facts and also against the backdrop of what the election is really about: the conduct of the war.  Editorialists like those at the Washington Times have done their own credibility great damage for a brief bit of pr posing.

Steadying the GOP's Congressional Party will require Hastert and others to stand up and keep returning fire, and to do so with the anger appropriate when one is being smeared.  It is also time to take off the gloves about Congressman Jefferson --still in Congress and still on Ways and Means-- Senator Menendez and Colorado's Bill Ritter as well as other past Democratic scandals which have gone unrepented and unpunished, as well as largely unpublished and unpursued by MSM. 

MSM's delight in this attempt to tarnish the entire GOP for the disgusting behavior of one of its members is exactly the sort of garbage that motivates the base to fully engage in the campaigns of the next five weeks.  Foley is gone, rightly condemned as he exited.  Jefferson is still sitting on the House's most powerful committee, and Menendez is still receiving an avalance of cash from his Senatorial Committee. Democrtaic Congressman Gerry Studds --for exactly the same behavior as Foley's-- was returned by voters to the House in five elections after his "censure" by the Democratic House, a censure understood by the Democratic leadership as the show slap on the wrist necessary and unpleasant but also not damaging to their loyal colleagues political prospects. Democratic Congressman Barney Frank's own personal scandal did not deter his rise through the ranks to the senior position he know holds as ranking member of the Financial Services Committee.

The enormity of the double standard and the baseless nature of the charges against Hastert specifically and Republicans generally will backfire on Democrats and their soulmates in the MSM, but only if Hastert and others fire back, early, often and with the specificity and anger necessary to underscore exactly what the Democratic Party-MSM partnership is up to, again.

You can start with a contribution to the RNC.  That will send a message to the party and to the media that conservatives haven't forgotten episodes such as the dropping the DUI story on Bush the weekend before the 2000 election or the attempt by Dan Rather to use absurd forgeries or the New York Times' hysterical last week charges about missing ammunition in Iraq to affect the 2004 election..  The purposeful conflating by MSM and Democrats of the Foley e-mail and the Foley IMs, combined the relentless attempt to obscure the media's own indifference to the former makes for one more episode in the attempt to make politics and elections about other than the key issues, issues which significantly cut against a Democratic Party committed to appeasement in the war and silliness on a host of other issues. 

UPDATE:

From the AP:

The St. Petersburg Times and The Miami Herald, which had been given copies of the e-mail with the Louisiana boy last year, defended their decisions not to run stories.

"Given the potentially devastating impact that a false suggestion of pedophilia could have on anyone, not to mention a congressman known to be gay, and lacking any corroborating information, we chose not to do a story," said Tom Fiedler, executive editor of the Herald.

From The Miami Herald:

Who knew what, when

Some newspapers -- including this one -- knew of this message as well and did not find it worthy of a news story because it seemed innocuous. Thus, Democratic charges of a ''cover up'' of Mr. Foley's activities by the Republican House leadership seem not only premature but crassly political. But the discovery of other, more explicit, messages and confusion over who knew what and when raise questions that require answers -- preferably, under oath and soon.

UPDATE 2:

Here's the Time Magazine story from Saturday, before the Foley IMs became public:

Posted Saturday, Sep. 30, 2006
Opinion may be divided over whether the e-mails Florida Representative Mark Foley sent a teen-age male congressional page last year were inappropriate or even constituted outright sexual harassment. But most observers would agree that what was almost as surprising as the allegations themselves was how swiftly the six-term Republican congressman from West Palm Beach quit a thriving career on Capitol Hill after the e-mails were aired Thursday night on the ABC evening news. And a big reason for his abrupt exit, say Florida pundits, is that Foley, 52, was staring at the elements of a perfect political storm that not even a candidate from a hurricane-prone state could withstand in today's nasty election climate: not only possible accusations of pedophilia, but also the possible stain of gross hypocrisy, given Foley's high-profile legislative crusade against child sex offenders. "I am deeply sorry and I apologize for letting down my family and the people of Florida," Foley said in a statement confirming that he would not seek re-election next month.

His work against child sex offenders is certainly the most glaring irony of the emerging Foley scandal. Foley is a founder and co-chair of the Congressional Missing and Exploited Children's Caucus and has played key roles in recent legislation to protect kids, including the Volunteers for Children Act, which gives organizations that work with youths access to FBI fingerprint checks to make sure they don't hire child molesters. Foley's Sex Offender Registration and Notification Act, which has passed both the House and Senate, overhauls the national monitoring system for predatory pedophiles by closing legal loopholes, setting minimum registration standards and better coordinating law enforcement; he also co-sponsored measures to eliminate child pornography and exploitive child model sites on the Internet — and he has worked closely with the likes of John Walsh, host of Fox TV's popular America's Most Wanted.

Foley's aides insist that the e-mails in question do nothing to belie his commitment to child protection issues, saying the exchanges between the congressman and the page — in which Foley asks what the boy would like for his birthday and requests a picture of him — were innocuous and "nonchalant" chat. But the boy, a page in the office of Louisiana Representative Rodney Alexander, also a Republican, e-mailed other colleagues saying Foley's messages "freaked me out," and he repeatedly called the photo request "sick."

In other e-mail exchanges with the page, Foley discusses another boy who he remarks is "in really great shape — i am just finished riding my bike on a 25 mile journey now heading to the gym — what school like for you this year?" As a result, the Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, a left-leaning congressional watchdog group, has asked the House Committee on Standards and Official Conduct to investigate, saying the legislators have "an obligation to protect the teenagers who come to Congress to learn about the legislative process." The committee, it said, "must investigate any allegation that a page has been subjected to sexual advances by members of the House."

Washington was rife with speculation that Foley resigned so quickly Friday because there might be similar e-mail or instant messages lying in the hard drives of other teens in the capital. But another reason is just as likely: Foley, a bachelor, has frequently worked to squelch rumors that he is gay. In 2003, he called a press conference expressly to insist that he would not answer questions about his sexuality as he prepared for a possible, but ultimately aborted Senate run in 2004.

Despite his earnest reputation on family values issues, Foley's orientation was an issue that Florida Republicans — whose leadership, including outgoing Governor Jeb Bush, has taken a sharp right turn in this decade — wrestled with nonetheless while Foley considered running for Senate (the party ultimately backed eventual winner Mel Martinez). The e-mail scandal simply would have made it more difficult for Foley to swim on that G.O.P. beach, and would have almost certainly made the next month of re-election campaigning horrific for him. (G.O.P. House Speaker Dennis Hastert today said Foley had done "the right thing" by resigning.) "When you look at how vicious political attack ads have become in this country, it's no surprise how quickly a candidate in Foley's position would say, 'It's just not worth it,'" says Susan MacManus, a political expert at the University of South Florida in Tampa. "The atmosphere is just too poisonous and venomous right now to risk it."

This story reflects the reality that the e-mails were not enough for anyone with knowledge just of them to act against Foley, or even to demand an investigation into them.  The Democrat-MSM spin cycle is conflating the e-mails with the disgusting IMs, and refusing to ask who sat on the IMs all these years when their release would have serevd to alert the House and protect other pages.

It will also be interesting to watch the evolution of the new standards of Congressional propriety and investigative tripwire evolve.  ABCNews' Brian Ross invites e-mails from sources. If they are hearing from lots of pages, what  guidelines will ABC use to evaluate these communications and to launch investigations?  What is "over-friendly," and which rumors about which Members are relevant to the decision to publish?

Mark Levin is battling those at The Corner who are blasting hastert's conduct.  It seems to me that this is a case where lawyers who have had actual experience with the appearance of impropriety understand that the warnings delivered to Foley on the basis of the e-mails were of the sort to deter him from that ethical boundary.  There would have been no basis for an investigation into his e-mails or computer server, and if there is a labor lawyer out there who would have advised a corporate client differently, please let me know.

And if you are a page sending leaks to ABC, keep them coming, but you might want to cc a second news organization at the same time to assure that ABC plays an honest game here.  One standard for all, right?



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OCPatriot writes: Thursday, October, 05, 2006 12:28 AM
Foley Cover Up is the Point
A lot of attention has been paid to the subject of Foley being gay but little has been paid to a cover up. Forget Foley being gay and envision young women as his targets. Then have Hastert withhold any information he got over a year ago. Even if it were sexual harassment at work, it would be heinous. It’s always the cover up, not the actual malfeasance. In this case, because of the laws created by people like Foley and Hastert, it may be a crime; and don’t plead ignorance about the cover up.
This smacks, by the way, of the same type of cover-up that the Catholic Church has now disavowed. It cost the Church millions of dollars and resulted in great shame. Hastert & Co. are as smarmy as the Church was in their cover-up. One, he and Reynolds and Boehner and any others who covered up need to go in shame. Two, a fund needs to be created for the interns affected by all this, carved out of Hastert’s personal fortune, or a lawyer needs to be appointed to charge Hastert with conspiracy and perjury, and to sue for injuries and damages. Three, the interns or pages need to sue the papers for covering up a crime, conspiracy, and sue the heck out of them. If those who perpetrated this, and helped to conceal it, are taken care of, the Republican Party can claim clean hands. Remember, this is not the rank and file, this is the Leadership of the Party.
The real conservatives are calling for a separate party. I hope to join it. The “spend and spend” and “create bigger government” party that is known as the Republican Party evidently endorses smarmy Foley and Hastert who protect us from those other guys, including the foreign terrorists and the homegrown gays. In the short run, rather than indulge in wish fulfilment thinking, we may have to vote Democrat to balance off the existing Republic greed machine, but then we need to get it together to truly create a Conservative Party, with true Conservative ideals.
Salt writes: Wednesday, October, 04, 2006 6:01 PM
Anti-Bush fever
Anti-Bush fever is a terrible plague. It turns otherwise decent, thoughtful progressives into rabid, raving idiots. Lies, torture, treason, blah, blah, blah...Just once PROVE that your insane blatherings have any basis in reality and don’t just quote each other saying them. Here’s reality: Jihadists want us all dead: left, right, black, white, gay, straight, it doesn’t matter to them. And they want us dead, not for anything we have done, Marxists notwithstanding, but because their own INTOLERANCE breeds a belief system that says innocent women and children are expendable for the sake of Jihad. I thought you leftists oppose intolerance. If the Democrats do not get this reality:1 they will never regain power or 2 they will regain power and American women that are left alive will be wearing burkas. Love to all, Salt
Yogsoggoth writes: Wednesday, October, 04, 2006 2:21 PM
Ha Ha Ha (Republicans are tools)
The MSM is liberally biased? You really expect us to believe that? This is the same media that smeared Gore for things he never said, talked about the non-story Whitewater for years, gave George Bush a free pass on his National Guard service, refused to question him about his alcoholism and drug use, cheerled the way into Iraq, allowed John Kerry to be swiftboated. The same MSM that says anything that happens to Republicans (bad or good) is a gain for them and a loss for Democrats. Id this the MSM that you are talking about?

Once again we see that the GOP is the "pass the buck" party. No one will admit to doing anything wrong.

We see the GOP as the do as I say, not as I do party.

We see the GOP as the hypocrite party.

It took ABC a matter of hours to discover Foley was a predator and Hastert couldn't find out over a year?

The problem with NenNutters is that they can't be intellectually honest. All you can do is spin and lie.
Dread writes: Wednesday, October, 04, 2006 1:35 PM
Agreed
There are still a few principled Republicans that I will support, like McClintock out here in California, but for the most part, you’re right, which was why I stopped voting for any of the two big party candidates, and encourage others who believe in smaller government, more freedom, and lower taxes to do the same.
RichB writes: Wednesday, October, 04, 2006 12:54 PM
conservative principles of smaller gov't
Hello, Dread, are you awake there? Have you taken a look at the Federal budget lately? Doesn't look too much smaller even through Republicans control every branch of government. I do see a bunch of tax breaks for the rich, though.

Does it ever cross your mind that you've been manipulated and lied to?
Dread writes: Wednesday, October, 04, 2006 12:37 PM
Do you want to be like the Democrats?
Even if the Democrats get more favorable treatment of their member’s sexual misconduct, and even if they did likewise ignore and cover-up, is that the bar that you really want to shoot for? Do you want to be like them?

Shouldn’t the Republican base be the first to demand a leadership that is above reproach in every way? Hastert has failed, like DeLay before him to keep this Congress in check. He should resign, and any congressman who stands for the old way of doing business, who has betrayed their conservative principles of smaller government and less government interference in our lives should be abandoned by their base.
Salt writes: Wednesday, October, 04, 2006 9:47 AM
Hastert never saw the emails
After everyone jumped to the conclusion that Hastert did not act decisively after the 2005 emails, Denny clarified with an important point that is being missed amid all the hysteria, even by Tony Blankley this morning.
The PARENTS of the boy did not want the emails released and so NO ONE in Congress saw them initially. Hastert received a complaint from the PARENTS, who declined to reveal the exact content of the emails, but only said that Foley was overly familiar and it made their son uncomfortable and the PARENTS wanted the behavior to stop.
Hastert & Co. asked Foley if he contacted the page. He said "yes". They asked him to stop. He said he would. That's it. No allegations of any other improper contact. No evidence of the exact wording of the email which the PARENTS objected to.
Very reasonable explanation of what happened that will get lost in all the howling and Democrat dirty tricks, aided by a news media that loves hysteria (even Fox).
The real scandal would be if Hastert and the GOP are really hurt by lies and spin but I have faith in the American people to sort out the bs.
IfAFrogHadWings writes: Wednesday, October, 04, 2006 8:07 AM
Re: Time for breakfast...
Bob,

> you guys are toast.
>

Not if it's proven that one of your leftwing Democrat organizations was holding these Instant Messages for two years, not doing anything to protect the House pages, just so they could use them during the last weeks of the campaign, as a political tactic. Not then.
Bob writes: Wednesday, October, 04, 2006 7:58 AM
Time for breakfast...
Bring out the butter, GOP, you guys are toast.
RichB writes: Wednesday, October, 04, 2006 7:50 AM
Why couldn't Hastert have investigated?
Why couldn't Hastert have investigated this more thoroughly back in 2005? There are only 72 pages in the House. It could have been quite easy to talk to each one seperately, one on one, and without mentioning names, ask if anything suspicious was going on. Not that hard. Would have taken a staff person two days at max. No one would have been hurt if it turned out to be an unfounded rumor, and this would have picked up the fact that stuff was going on. Why didn't Hastert do that?
Former_Rep_Never_a_Dem writes: Wednesday, October, 04, 2006 3:17 AM
To dathrash
Please provide links to where you obtained your information regarding who had the Foley IM's and did not release them "for almost a year."
mad mateo writes: Tuesday, October, 03, 2006 11:38 PM
to dead pan
Deadpan, regarding the CR- all I'm saying is we need more than the IRS to check religious groups from playing politics. They've gained increasing amounts of influence with persons of power.

I surely don't reject criticism of my opinions -- criticism can be a vessel for evolution.

A true lobbyist should represent the perspective and opinion of a legitimate interest group, as opposed to our current arrangement.

I surely applaud your solution, but how would you recommend accomplishing that?

I do not believe we are living in an "Orwellian state." I have my freedoms but just believe that this country has made mistake after mistake in just about every area and molds policy not based on fact and reason, but based on money, influence, and occasionally sometimes religious beliefs, or a feigned religious belief in an attempt to win votes.

Thanks for the puerile diatribe condemnation- if I am a puer, can I at least be a puer fortis? Ha ha ha. You totally misrepresented my opinions, but I'll try to grow up. But, while I'm still young, maybe I should call Mark "do I make you a little horney" Foley; I hear he's "single"! (sorry that was in poor taste but too tempting).
dathrash writes: Tuesday, October, 03, 2006 11:16 PM
Pages Aren't Idiots;Pelosi should resign
Pages hail from two groups: the politically privileged, or the uniquely qualified. They go through training, and have supervisors.

Foley's an idiot and has serious issues. But, why did the page take these emails to the press instead of his supervisor? It's a hit-job, pure and simple.

Hastert had the ambiguous, but Pelosi held on to the IMs for almost a year!? How dare Pelosi suggest Hastart didn't "protect the children" when SHE had the "goods" and only SHE KNEW the "children" were in danger. Pelosi knows no shame. She should do exactly what she demands should be done in such a situation and resign!

Deadpan writes: Tuesday, October, 03, 2006 9:58 PM
To Mad Mateo
How has the Christian Right ever forced you to do anything? What religious standards have Republicans forced you into?

I haven't noticed much improvement in our popular culture as I'd expect if we were on the verge of theocracy. Or are you one of those who think that any disagreement or criticism of your opinions is a denial of your rights?

Lobbyists are like lawyers, we hate all of them but the ones who represent us. The solution is to roll back the concentration of power in Washington, not start denying people their freedoms of speech and association.

I always get a kick out of people who post their opinions on the internet complaining that we're living in an Orwellian state. If you have so little freedom, why are we reading your puerile diatribe? Grow up.
jpoling writes: Tuesday, October, 03, 2006 9:51 PM
Stop the Insanity
I am astounded that you can argue with straight face that the Congressman Foley scandal is a partisan one. Have you really gone mad? Have you really become so much of a partisan hack?

Speaker Hastert knew approximately a year ago that Congressman Foley had requested picture(s) of a teenage page. Don't you think that you would have asked some questions, talked to the pages, notified other colleagues, spoken to Congressman Foley directly? The Speaker's reaction to Congressman Foley requesting pictures of a teenage boy showed a lack of judgment or just plain stupidity or even worse a willingness to sacrifice morality for power.

What Congressman Foley did was inexcuseable? But where is the accountability for those who knew or at least knew something and should have followed up, but did nothing? And, why is it partisan to suggest that there should be accoutability among our leaders?

Stop the insanity. There is right and wrong. Foley was wrong and some in the leadership were wrong. Let's admit it, have them take responsibiltiy and if necessary resign, and move on.

Deadpan writes: Tuesday, October, 03, 2006 9:35 PM
This is just a foretaste
The Dems have pinned their hopes to a scandal that recalls how they dealt with similar ones. That's why they're pointing at Hastert and yelling coverup.

This merely repeats typical patterns. When a Republican does something wrong, he gets removed. When it's a Democrat, the party closes ranks behind him and makes excuses, delays, distracts and stonewalls.

The fact is that if Clinton were a Republican he'd have either had to resign, like Foley, or he'd have been removed after impeachment.

There are two separate issues here: Foley's behavior, which was disgusting and has been dealt with summarily; and the handling of the case by Republican leaders. We've passed the first, because he's resigned and is being investigated by the FBI.

Now we're dealing with the hypocritical claims from the left that there was a cover up. Dems are saying essentially that Foley, an elected official, should have been driven from office on the basis of rumors and innuendos, exposing House leadership to charges of homophobia. This is pure gotcha politics. Once again the Democrats are off and running with a moral standard that they have never applied to their own members.

If they get away with this, be prepared to spend at least the next two years having the media preoccupied with Congressional hearings and investigations of the last 6 years. The left is so caught up in trying to assuage its guilt for its defense of the Molester in Chief by tearing down the character of others, that it can't see or doesn't care that it is throwing chairs around in a glass house of its own. They can't be satisfied that this sick individual has been summarily driven from his office. They have to expand the scandal and blame it on others who haven't done anything wrong.

If the Speaker of the House had to follow up every rumor and hint that pops up inside the Beltway, he'd have no time to do his job. We've just seen how the Democrats would have handled this in the case of Patrick Kennedy. He could easily have killed someone with his reckless driving, but he still has his seat in Congress, beause he made a tearful admission that he has an addiction, which is called a "disease," not a moral defect, and has gone through rehab.

Foley's offense was undoubtedly related to his alcoholism too, but it consisted of reckless use of instant messaging, not actual molestation, indulging in sexual fantasies and talking dirty to a teenaged boy, rather than driving around late at night and running police cars off the road. When the IMs were revealed, Foley was gone, but, of course, it couldn't be left at that. This was too juicy a scandal not to be used to smear Republicans.

These things happen in both parties. William Jefferson had $93,000 in cash wrapped and stashed in his freezer. Had he been a Republican, he'd be gone, but he's still in office. The real thing to ask is not how somebody let this happen, but how they treat it when they became aware of it. On this question, the Democrats are applying a double standard. In fact, I just heard a caller to Michael Medved's show, claim that Republicans SHOULD be held to a higher standard because they claim to be more religious than Democrats.

Republicans need some kind of standard procedure for handling scandals without going overboard or getting thrown by unjustified charges, because you can't anticipate where the October Surprises will come from, but you can be ready for them. They will clearly will be the main campaign tactic of the Democrats in the future, because they don't have any real issues they can win with.
mad mateo writes: Tuesday, October, 03, 2006 9:07 PM
ARE YOU PEOPLE SERIOUS??
Seriously. All this debate? Let me break it down for you --

1) Foley is a sicko and shouldn't have done that. Alcohol is not an excuse.

2) Dems shouldn't be (over) using this as a political cudgel. It's applicable to Foley only- Hastert cannot be blamed for not knowing about or attempting to know about this. Perhaps in hindsight he should have done more, but as they say hindsight is 20/20.

3) Both Reps AND Dems disgust me, as well as all of their spin, partisan battles, and everything else. It's time we had LEADERSHIP in America. It's time for leaders to focus on what's best for AMERICA, not what's best for themselves, large corporations, and the Christian Right. It's time we valued our RIGHTS AS AMERICANS, rather than legislating them away for the sake of "security". Remember people, there's a GOOD REASON our founders warned us about this VERY IDEA.

4) We Americans can make decisions for ourselves; we don't need Republicans forcing their morals and beliefs onto us. We must end persecution of victimless crimes. We also don't need Dems making our decisions for us because "four out of five experts agree...".

5) GET RID of the lobbyists. How about: NO gifts, NO money, NOTHING from lobbyists to congress or anyone else. Our RIGHTS, our ENVIRONMENT, our GOVERNMENT shouldn't be for sale for another minute.

I could go on, and on, and on... but I'll spare you. To GI Joe: please tell me that was an attempt at satire. If not, people like you are one of the main reasons our political system has gone down the toilet-- our government's function is not to police the morals of its citizens or ensure the prosperity of Christianity; if you truly believe that, then all is already lost-- enjoy being a Republican pawn for the rest of your days, always voting for whoever the Christian Right tells you to, all the while keeping a blind eye to what policies are truly being enacted while you celebrate restricted stem cell research.

Regards, a Catholic-raised, opinionated, classical "Anti-Federalist" (which Republicans sadly only USED to be), who is more and more mourning the death of the America that the Founders created and it's rebirth into a fact-ignoring, corrupt, self-serving partisan political monster.

The time is now. The need is dire. Open your eyes before it's too late and all is lost.
G.I. Joe writes: Tuesday, October, 03, 2006 7:30 PM
Keep it up
Christians realize our country is in a death struggle with the dark forces of islamofacism.

The democrats are only reminding us how morally bankrupt they really are. As we go down democrat immorality memory lane, we see our choice is much clearer than ever before.

This like the Welstone memorial will backfire. Republican and Christians will flock to the aid of their country.

Thank you Jesus
Lyta writes: Tuesday, October, 03, 2006 6:41 PM
It's not what you know or suspect
It's what you can prove. Creepy e-mails, rumors, suspicions, and parents of pages' not cooperating with further inquiries are not enough if you are Dennis Hastert having to deal with an issue like Foley.

Hastert was not going to do a single thing about Foley unless and until he had Foley dead to rights. Congresscritters have gooooood lawyers, and from what it seems Hastert knew at the time he did not have enough to make Foley resign, if Foley had decided to call his lawyers and spin doctors and fight.

The IMs and other disgusting stuff were apparently not known to Hastert. They fell into Democratic hands and were held for an October Surprise.
Dread writes: Tuesday, October, 03, 2006 6:41 PM
Throw all incumbants out.
First, in answer to what Hastert should have done, while a full investigation was not necessarily warranted, an informal inquiry should have been conducted. A good start for Hastert and the GOP would have been interviewing other pages that had been around Foley.

Second, if the Democrats did indeed hold onto information about a congressman committing a felony and giving him the opportunity to commit for felonies for political gain, then they are despicable.

Both parties are more than willing to sacrifice integrity, ethics, and principles to win elections. The fact that we as an electorate tolerate this from our public servants is mind-boggling.

Regardless of your party affiliation, there seems to exist a culture of elitism, arrogance and corruption in our congress. You can argue about who is worse and who started it, but it has become so blatant and foul that something needs to be done to clean it up. The Democrats won’t do it, and the Republicans have had over a decade to try and bring back some integrity to our government, and yet we are still plagued with sex scandals, lobbyist scandals, bribery convictions, and an ever increasing federal budget loaded with earmarks and pork projects.

What hope do we have of ever cleaning up this mess that was our government, if we just keep sending back the same scoundrels?

Vote Constitution party, vote Libertarian, heck, vote for any 3rd party at this point, send both parties a message that we will no longer tolerate what they have been doing for the last… I don’t know, 80 years?
markmcconnell writes: Tuesday, October, 03, 2006 6:02 PM
worse to come
I have a hard time believing that the only dirt on Hastert is that he was satisfied to rebuke Foley for writing an ambiguous, uninvited email to a sixteen year old.

I predict that by the time it's over, it will be retroactively "widely rumored" among the pages that Foley got past first base with some kid, and that Hastert "had evidence of numerous improprieties" for much longer than a year.

How else can you interpret the exchange: when asked how he fared during Katrina (send a picture for our files) the response is, "sick sick sick sick"? There was a story here, before it broke.

But no one could have been sure of how big a story it was, until after the IMs appeared. The press wasn't sure. Hastert wasn't sure - but suspected. Now we know. And it will come out - at the time of maximal political advantage, of course. This is the normal pattern, and there is a severe but appropriate justice about it.

If the Dems manage to gain advantage from this, no one on earth really believes that it's because they are more deserving. But I trust in the long run, that justice knows what it is doing.

"We are not necessarily doubting that God will do the best for us; we are wondering
how painful the best will turn out to be." C.S. Lewis
Salt writes: Tuesday, October, 03, 2006 6:02 PM
Speaker Pelosi
1: Foley is sick and gone;
2: Change leadership after the election, not now.

Conservatives, Moderates and Libertarians must realize what is at stake. If the Dems take over either house of Congress, there will be two solid years of Clintonian attacks of personal destruction. Every Dem in line for a leadership position is a left-wing, America hating, soak-the-rich Socialist ignoramus who does not even realize the danger their ideas pose to the Republic and the world. (Murtha, Conyers, Waters, Frank, Rangel,Waxman, ad nauseum.)

As distasteful as it is for some, there must be a get-out-the-GOP-vote tidal wave and they must remain in the majority or Iraq will be abandoned,Jihadists will be emboldened, Bush will be impeached, the economy will tank, Madeline Albright types will run foreign policy and the US and the civilized world will be in big trouble.
ChairmanMao writes: Tuesday, October, 03, 2006 6:01 PM
One thing is clear
Nothing can drive a conservative crazier than sexual misconduct.

No dereliction of duty
No inebriated spending
No betrayal of trust

Unless it involves sex

The political fervor and ragging of vestments seen here has not reached this level of delirium since Janet Jackson Super bowl wardrobe malfunction.
IfAFrogHadWings writes: Tuesday, October, 03, 2006 5:26 PM
To Mr. Schadenfreude
GullyFolyle,

What was Hastert supposed to charge Foley with in 2005, without evidence? Being gay? Is that the Democrat position? No gays in the House....

GullyFolyle writes: Tuesday, October, 03, 2006 5:07 PM
I'm a liberal, and I agree with Hugh
I hope Hastert doesn't resign. It gives the Democrats more opportunity to show the voters what hypocritical buffoons the Republicans are.

Stay, Denny, stay!

Yours in schadenfreude,

G.F.
Morton writes: Tuesday, October, 03, 2006 4:22 PM
Stay focused
We are all disgusted, but here is our gameplan:

1. Vote Republican this year. We HAVE to win primarily because of the GWOT.

2. We make real progress in the primaries, which we start getting ready for in January 2007. Look, when we get disgruntled with our members in Congress (or President, or the Judiciary), we work our hardest getting young, visionary, and ethical folks elected in the primaries. We need to act as a party and movement, as if 'term limits' for our team are a given. We are looking at a 'tired bunch of guys and gals' that need to be replaced with a new generation who thinks it's NEVER too late to change things; or even to vote the right way without compromising core values.

Bottomline: we HAVE to turn out and win in November. That's the 1st step. Then we need to get busy and bring the next generation forward.
Willt65 writes: Tuesday, October, 03, 2006 3:36 PM
Well.....
Ruby, you are right: We are not conservative, we are all trolls and lefties, and only real conservatives understand the story. I like that logic. I've said my piece. I'm done with this thread. Keep toeing the line and see where it gets you in a few weeks.
ruby writes: Tuesday, October, 03, 2006 3:26 PM
Not fooling anyone
Funnystuff,

If you don't understand "the real story" yet , you can't be a conservative. Just spend your time on some dem. blog; your lack of applying logical thought to the facts won't be noticed.
Southern Conservative writes: Tuesday, October, 03, 2006 3:05 PM
Wake up people
Just exactly how do you come up with the statement "Hastert should have known"? If he had reacted like you people wanted him to (launched an investigation) based solely on the e-mail (Not the IM's which he had not seen) you would be crusifying him for being a homophobe. If you are diluted enough with your 20/20 hindsight and your crystal ball that you would have launched an investigation based on the e-mail, good for you. If that is so though, you really need to wake up and enter the real world.
Moondawg writes: Tuesday, October, 03, 2006 3:03 PM
MJ777, just who is saying...
...that bad behavior by some Dems excuses bad behavior by some Republicans?

The point is that because the Dem leadership has overlooked (and even rewarded) bad behavior in the past by some of their own, they are the last ones who should be lecturing the rest of us on the same type of bad behavior by Repubs.

Imagine the howls we'd be hearing if, instead of resigning in disgrace, Foley had been allowed to remain in office and even restored to a leadership position in the House by his party, as Gerry Studds was less than two years after he was censured:

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9B07E7DA1739F93AA35751C0A963948260
Willt65 writes: Tuesday, October, 03, 2006 2:53 PM
Funny stuff
I find it hilarious that if you disagree with the party line you are either a troll, a liberal or a week-kneed republican. It's not an intellectually honest tactic. You end up driving away conservatives. Actually, there are some of us that don't tolerate congressmen preying on young pages and think that Hastert should have been on top of this, based on what has come forth.
Paul writes: Tuesday, October, 03, 2006 2:46 PM
We are not Democrats/Liberals
We are not Democrats or Liberals. We clean our own house. We do not sacrifice our principles in order to keep a death-grip on the reins of power.

Get out, Hastert. Hugh, if you really believe what you have written here, you need to go also.

There is no place in Conservatism for child-mongers or for those who would avoid the broom to clean our house.
MJ777 writes: Tuesday, October, 03, 2006 2:43 PM
Bad behavior by some Dems ...
Doesn't excuse bad behavior by some Republicans. And it doesn't make someone a democrat if they disagree with you occasionally.

You can't blame a whole party - whether it's dems or GOP, for one person's despicable behavior, but the leadership should've launched an investigation when it 1st came out. If those emails had come to the attention of the FBI, let alone congress, and came from any of us "common people" there probably would've been a "sting" set up like on Dateline. At the very least our computers, homes, and offices, would've been searched to find out if anything was acted upon and what else was going on in cyberspace. Our elected officials should be held to a higher standard, not a lower one. If the GOP leadership had handled this corrctly it would be a year-old scandal now, long forgotten by most. The GOP would be praised for doing the right thing, not accused of involvement in a cover-up (and what could be worse than covering for a pedophile?) days before the election. They brought this on themselves and they would feel the same about the dems if the situation were reversed. Remember Hastert defending William Jefferson with his $90,000 cash in the freezer, from the FBI search? They can no-knock search your home in the middle of the night in swat gear if someone gets mad at you and makes a call with a false claim to law enforcement, but Congress is above the law.

To those blaming dems, the media, or anyone but those involved...Do your values not apply when the perps are on your team?
WARetreatWatchdog writes: Tuesday, October, 03, 2006 2:39 PM
Democrats Should Can the Ethics Lectures
http://soundpolitics.com/archives/007001.html

Apparently US Senator Maria Cantwell has gotten into an affair with a lobbyist who she's done special favors for.

I encourage you all to check out that webpage and focus on that scandal if for no other reason than to point out that Democrats have their own sex scandals, too.

Maybe the Senate Ethics Committee might want to get to work!!!!
patrick neid writes: Tuesday, October, 03, 2006 2:39 PM
the hatchet job........
Hugh,

i'm getting tired of you taking the words right out of my mouth........
ruby writes: Tuesday, October, 03, 2006 2:32 PM
I'm So Sorry Frog,

I was reading thru these dim. talking posts and then went to your link and then your name.

I see now that I should have read what you wrote about your link!!

See, Republicans can say they're sorry !
Willt65 writes: Tuesday, October, 03, 2006 2:33 PM
Disagree
Jimbo, you are making very little sense of this situation. You don't seem to be able to grasp the seriousness of it. Foley had more than just a "creepy" way about him; he was actively seeking young male pages, or haven't you read the story how Kirk Fordham, Foley's former assistant, was running around trying to keep the congressman from getting into trouble. The guy was doing more than just sending "creepy" emails. Even "creepy" emails sent to pages should have been investigated by the House. This guy had a reputation of seeking out young pages. That in itself should have promopted Hastert to do something about it, not let his aides take care of it. If the emails had been investigated maybe it would have led to the IMs, too. Who knows. But you will never find out by taking a lax attitude toward the entire affair.

hunter writes: Tuesday, October, 03, 2006 2:30 PM
Inquiring minds want to know
Was the deliberate hold back of evidence of a crime obstruction of justice?
If the dhimmicrats think I am giong to be swayed into not voting for America and against the dhimmitude party over this, the DNC is sadly mistaken.
This election is not a referendum on perverts in Congress. We are the party that tosses perverts out. This is an election on whether or not to declare defeat and retreat in this war and raise taxes on working Americans. I vote for victory and a strong economy. If I change my mind and want defeat and taxes, I will be sure and vote democrat.
ChairmanMao writes: Tuesday, October, 03, 2006 2:02 PM
Taken from the Dem's Playbook
Taken from the Democratic Party play book

“A sex scandal offers a swell opportunity to unravel Evangelical Christians. Do you best to imbue a sense of disappointment and powerlessness amongst them (since we cannot dream of any of them ever again voting Democrat) and maybe then they will deliver us a victory by staying home come November?”

Democrats are such fools. Christianity and cynicism seldom go together. It is usually atheist and agnostics who are labile to being dark and lack any sense of hope. Come November, I predict a solid turnout for “the religious right.”

Advice to Democrats; be ready for a prolonged fight;religious people trust God to prevail. In the end.
Philly writes: Tuesday, October, 03, 2006 1:50 PM
Dems use this to suppress voters turnout
What amazes me is that someone, Dem operatives?, held the IM's for 3 years. Then too, politically, the Foley seat seems to go Dem, but Pub voters are not Dem voters; unable to read and signify the ballot name via Joe with the Foley name. Don't bet that the Dems will win this seat. Also, Hastert says he , since being Speaker, has put into action measures to protect the pages unlike his Dem counterparts years ago. Also, Hastert did not, did not know about the IM's. The Foley business is gone. He resigned unlike the Dem miscreants when breaking the law as well the law of decency, kept their office and celebrated their law breaking. Dems have no issues that would make people vote for them, except, hate W and the Gop and conservatives and the Christian Right. It might work but it might not. It will depend on whether the Gop and Hastert fight back against the real hypocrites, the Dem journalists and the socialist pacifist leftists that are the DNC.
IfAFrogHadWings writes: Tuesday, October, 03, 2006 1:25 PM
Re: Following orders?
Ruby,

Huh??? Because I defend Hastert, I'm a Democrat? What are you smoking?
Blu writes: Tuesday, October, 03, 2006 1:17 PM
Reuters at it again
Read this garbage:

"The Washington Times, a leading conservative newspaper and usually a supporter of Republicans, accused Hastert of barely pursuing warnings about Foley's messages and said in an editorial he 'must do the only right thing, and resign his speakership at once.'"

Now, I understand that Reuters is pointing out the irony of the W Times calling for Hastert's head, but when is the last time Reuters wrote that the NYT and WP are "liberal" newspapers and are "usually a supporter of Democrats"? I'll answer that for you: NEVER. Moreover, how often do you think Reuters quotes the W Times? - besides when it is scolding Reps?

Sure, there is no left-wing bias - no agenda journalism. And just wait, I guarantee that the Associated (with terrorists) Press will not be far behind with the next partisan smear-job.

Grumpy Old Man writes: Tuesday, October, 03, 2006 1:13 PM
Pederasty
As much as the phrases "Speaker Pelosi" and "Chairman Conyers" make me shudder, I can't go along with your partisan position on this one.

Given the history and Foley's reputation (apparently deserved), the leadership should have known and acted. The hypocrisy implicit in Foley's chairmanship of the exploited children caucus, of course, makes it worse.

With God's grace and the veto pen, the Republic will survive.
Blu writes: Tuesday, October, 03, 2006 1:07 PM
hey calidope
Were you this upset when your nancy boys were up to the same deviant cra*p? Nope. In fact, brainless partisan that you are, I have no doubt you would have voted to re-elect. BTW, you still on the board of NAMBLA?

You have proof of nothing at this point. That deviant creep, Foley, is gone as he should be. The Speaker has done absolutely nothing wrong. You go ahead a keep tossing out your cute little conspiratorial links; it's always fun to watch the nutters spin.
ruby writes: Tuesday, October, 03, 2006 1:01 PM
Following orders?
Frog,
Don't you know Republicans are literate?

Yes, I know you've been advised by your dim leaders to call talk radio, post at conservative blogs, etc. etc. But we actually follow the FACTS established and most of us try not to get hysterical at the junk Howard Kurtz writes.

One other thing? DO you actually think knowledgable Republicans would ever vote for a Dim.?

So fellow Republicans, take note that most of these people are following the Dim. talking points and being good little children by posting here.

Remember: Foley resigned - the FBI is investigating and hopefully the Facts will surface!
ChairmanMao writes: Tuesday, October, 03, 2006 12:44 PM
Shock and Surprise
California Democrats voice public
objections to Jessica's Law?

Democrats oppose lengthening mandatory sentences for sex offenders?

Jerry Brown's Criminals Bill of Rights prevents the CA prison system from restricting access to pornography by convicted rapists and child molesters?

We know that Rev. Jesse Jackson had a mistress and a, to use the quaint term, “love child.”

The tabloid Star broke the news that Clinton adviser D-i-c-k Morris had a fondness for toe-sucking with a lady of the evening in a Washington hotel

Gennifer Flowers anyone?

NJ Dem Governor trolling for highway rest areas for sex?

Barney Frank homosexual prostitution ring?

And, wasn't a Democrat 'Congress-person" who actually had sex with a page and remained in office?

I am so surprised at the Dem's outrage; I thought that Democrats were the Party of the open mind, empathy and understanding whom are not bothered by a sex scandal....


It is patently clear:

Remodeling the GOP Leadership may be a good idea but anyone interested in elevating the sexual ethics of Congress ought to sail clear of the Democrats.
TitanTrader writes: Tuesday, October, 03, 2006 12:32 PM
Lib Commenters
I love how of late the Libs come here in full force. As if all this Lib dribble will sway any minds. Granted your Dem talking points must seem repetitive in the fever swap at the daily Kos but get real.
We need a permanent ignore button so we dont need to waste time reading what is written in any local lib rag or spoken on MSM each day.
Howard writes: Tuesday, October, 03, 2006 12:26 PM
The pot calling the kettle black
It seems to me that the news and other media that knew of these e-mails and instant messages have even more moral responsibility to the pages than Mr Hastert. They knew of this three years ago and did nothing about it. This allowed this pederast to do even more of their dirty work.
Howard writes: Tuesday, October, 03, 2006 12:25 PM
finding fault
It seems to me that the news and other media that knew of these e-mails and instant messages have even more moral responsibility to the pages than Mr Hastert. They knew of this three years ago and did nothing about it. This allowed this pederast to do even more of their dirty work.
Jimbo writes: Tuesday, October, 03, 2006 12:13 PM
No, Willt65
Your argument is nonsense. It is the equivalent of saying, "Heck, a lot of girls on campus knew for years that Mr. Smith had a creepy way about talking to girls." Well, how is the principal supposed to do anything unless he gets ONE of those girls to tell him something that is specifically, categorically wrong...not a generic "feeling". In the old days, just a general feeling of creepiness would have been enough to can someone; now, however, with the rights and due process crowd suing over everything that is not possible.

Part of the pathology of these types is their ability to mesh the appropriate with the shameful--and mirky the water...I think it is part of the "game" they're playing. It prevents the student/page from full confidence in what the intentions of the adult are and it keeps administrators from being able to do much, other than what Hastert said, "Stop that right now."
beatmichigan writes: Tuesday, October, 03, 2006 12:10 PM
Re: Hastert Knew Better
Frog...call me old fashioned, but I actually believe that it is wrong for a person in a position of authority to have a sexually-based relationship with someone under 18. I don't care whether it's heterosexual or homosexual.
Do you think it's okay for teachers to be sleeping with their students? And, while I think Clinton should have resigned too, Monica wasn't 16.
Jimbo writes: Tuesday, October, 03, 2006 12:01 PM
Thank God for the Internet
If this was 15-20 years ago, Republicans would be drubbed again in the polls. The drumbeat for Republican conspiracy and cover-up would be heard everywhere, with the average, barely political literate, asking what the heck is wrong with the party that it would be involved in such shameful covering for a pedophile. It takes the internet to illustrate the outrageous hypocrisy of Frank, Studds, Melendez, Jefferson (still in office!) et al., as well as the real facts--not conjectures--of the story to maintain perspective. MSM is again unmasked. When will they pay the price for their crap and smears? One must remember: at least Republicans have the freaking decency to step down in appropriate shame. Look at all the Dems still in office!
Willt65 writes: Tuesday, October, 03, 2006 11:49 AM
On the other hand....
The LA Times has a very disturbing story on the Foley debacle in today's paper. Basically, it says that it was common knowledge for years on Capitol Hill that Foley was seeking contact with many male pages. The Times interviewed several current and former pages, both Democrat and Republican. Apparently, Denny Hastert was the only person on Capitol Hill who wasn't aware of this. "Over friendly" emails to young male pages should wave red flags to anyone. I'm sure the parents of some of these other pages are real happy with Denny Hastert today.
IfAFrogHadWings writes: Tuesday, October, 03, 2006 11:48 AM
Re: Hastert Knew Better
fairfieldconservative wrote:

> As I point out at
> http://************.townhall.com, Speaker
> Hastert should have launched an investigation
> when he initially heard about the emails.

You understand, the US House has female pages too. If Hastert launched an investigation into every dirty old congressman's creepy interest in an attractive 16-year-old page, he probably wouldn't have much time for important things. A lot of the people that end up in politics ARE just overage teenagers, Bill Clinton being exhibit number one. Unless the congressman does more than leer, what is Hastert supposed to do?

Ayuf bin Pharteen writes: Tuesday, October, 03, 2006 11:46 AM
Re: CaliDad
So, what you are saying, then, is that we (the USA) cannot fight a war unless we have dealt with ALL of our domestic issues (crime, etc) first?

Please, please, please, keep it up with your shallow, lame Dim talking points! Please!
beatmichigan writes: Tuesday, October, 03, 2006 11:29 AM
Hastert Knew Better
As I point out at http://fairfieldconservative.townhall.com, Speaker Hastert should have launched an investigation when he initially heard about the emails. This is the behavior we would expect of a public school principal, and we shouldn't expect less of the Speaker of the US House of Representatives. Had Speaker Hastert launched such an investigation, Foley's predatory behavior would have quickly been exposed. This inaction leads me to call for Hastert's resignation.
TitanTrader writes: Tuesday, October, 03, 2006 11:29 AM
Amen Hugh
As hugh has said many times "whatever the problems in Washington the answer isnt democrats". This whole ordeal makes me want to puke but the fact that it's currently the leading issue at this time in history, is surreal. Republican editorialists in an attempt for moral high ground are willing to concede this election (thus the war on terror) because of a pederast?
I never thought this issue would rise to this level considering the ACLU which is bought and paid for by the Democratic party supports NAMBLA. Just more proof the Dems will sink to any level to re-gain power and sell-out our country.
IfAFrogHadWings writes: Tuesday, October, 03, 2006 11:29 AM
Re: The Foley Mess
Steelnine wrote:

> Why must everything be partisan with you guys!
[...]
> I find Republicans using church, God, fear,
> divide and conqur tactics that mask real issues
> facing our nation just to remain in power. Power
> unchecked like it has been the past years allows
> arrogance and ethics failures to happen! What a
> mess the Republicans have allowed on their
> watch.

Why indeed?
CaliDad writes: Tuesday, October, 03, 2006 11:27 AM
What's this then
Tom Reynolds(R-NY) head of the NRCC own chief of staff Kirk Fordham tried to cover up the worst of the IM's as late as Friday.

Aravosis is saying Howard Kurtz has identified Fordham as the deal maker to keep the scandal under raps.

http://americablog.blogspot.com/2006/10/breaking-cong-tom-reynolds-r-ny-chief.html

More House leadership coverup.

Keep spinning the innocent emails vs. damning IM's angle, as the hole is getting deeper and deeper and deeper....

You can't run a war if you can't even keep my children safe from predators.
ruby writes: Tuesday, October, 03, 2006 11:26 AM
Rich...
Hastert could not have launched an investigation with what he knew . He had a E-mail that could have been intrepreted in many different ways.
Your obviously just another Dim. with a talking point. What will you say if it's discovered that the Dims front organizations held onto these IM's for a few years before conviently exposing them before an election? Will you talk about the Dims. moral obligations to have come forward ?
ruby writes: Tuesday, October, 03, 2006 11:20 AM
Sometimes I wonder........
I listened to the Rep. Boehner interview with Sean and was extremely disappointed with his comments. I hope all those working so hard to elect a conservative inspite of Foley will let him know! He had a great opportunity to plug the new candidate and rally the troops and he "blew it"
RichB writes: Tuesday, October, 03, 2006 11:19 AM
Why didn't Hastert know more?
The Miami Herald and St. Petersburg Times might have seen the same e-mails as Hastert, but that hardly excuses his behavior.

1) As Speaker of the House, Foley had a moral obligation to safe guard other kids in the Congressional page program. The newspapers did not.

2) Hastert had resources at his fingertips to pursue a further investigation. He chose not to look very hard. The newspapers had fewer resources and couldn't have pursued the investigation without causing an uproar.

Willful ignorance on the past of the House Republican leadership is not an excuse for failure to perform one's moral obligation.
ruby writes: Tuesday, October, 03, 2006 11:06 AM
Thank you Hugh!
I first read the editorial by Dean Barnett and became "alot" annoyed! I did post my opinion of it on that comment section. So, I was so happy when I read your opinion because , well, it's shared by me! The truth and facts about the Dim.s sickening dirty tricks are with us and we now have the FBI looking for hopefully truth/facts.
I'm actually surprised and elated to see the House leadership fighting back and i'm proud of them! How can we win the war on islamic-fascists with a "cut and run" policy?
We should also ask ourselves how can we win politically with that same policy we detest so much in our opposition parties?
Wise people know "when to hold and when to fold"
This is the time to hold.
Steelnine writes: Tuesday, October, 03, 2006 11:04 AM
The Foley Mess
Why must everything be partisan with you guys! If the speaker even knew of the emails and did nothing is shameful! I find Republicans using church, God, fear, divide and conqur tactics that mask real issues facing our nation just to remain in power. Power unchecked like it has been the past years allows arrogance and ethics failures to happen! What a mess the Republicans have allowed on their watch. Time for changes!
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