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Tuesday, December 12, 2006
More Marines I Know
Posted by: Mary Katharine Ham at 2:12 PM

I got a lot of response to my column, "I know a Marine, and he knows the stakes," much of it from other Marines, soldiers, and their loved ones. I thought you might like hearing from them as much as I did. They say things better than I could. Beverly, Jan, and Paul, in particular, will break your heart:

Dan (former) Cpl., USMC:

Thank you. As a former Marine and Desert Shield/Storm vet, you have honored the Corps in representing exactly what we think and how we process what's going on in Iraq.

Wheeler, Col. USMC (ret.)

I enjoyed your article and thank you for your insight and concern.

Semper Fi

Archie:

We were Marines in "66 that knew how to win but weren't allowed to. It will get to where Marines will say "why should we fight and die when the government will just give up AGAIN."

This President has had 6 years of being beat on every day. I am sure it has gotten to him and made him wonder if he has been correct all along. Bless his heart he has stood tall and walked tall but in the end the liberals and communists in the media will make anybody stoop and bend. This country does not have the guts to tune out the communist news media and walk like the great country we once were.

We have the soldiers and Marines but we don't have the will anymore.

John from Texas:

I'm an old man now, in my 74th year, but once I was a young man fighting a war in Vietnam. The war in Vietnam and the war in Iraq are very different wars. In terms of what the outcome of the war in Iraq means to the furure of the United States and it's people, the war in Iraq is irreducibly more consequential than the war in which I fought.

Is it not strange that the same political party, and many of the folks in that party, have been opposed to both wars? Is there nothing the liberals will consent to fight for?

I know your Marine very well. He is my brother. I know that in his heart he knows the great value of that for which he fights. I know his discouragement with the faithlessness of the American politicians who send him into battle and disparage his cause. I feel his disappointment over the false veracity of the agenda-driven American media that fails to report his successes as warrior and humanitarian. I Feel his loneliness as one of the less than one percent of American youth who wear the uniform of our country.

Thanks for speaking up for your Marine, and I thank him for his courage, his patriotism and his dedication. Semper Fi!

Frank:

Seems I saw this same group, even worse from around 1968-1972.

But the Marines from the 60s and early 70s are like the ones now. We werent quitters.

Once, Always a Marine

Semper Fi

Beverly of Texas:

My son, Ben, an AF Cpt, USAFA grad, child of our heart, returns to his sp ops pilot duties right before Christmas. It will be his fourth trip over. He wasn't supposed to return this soon and his presents will never make it over in time. But that isn't my real concern.... My real concern is like yours....we send Ben and other sons and daughters over as if they were our willing compensatory sacrifices for our own self hatred. The winds of misperception are blowing hard all over this nation....they started before the election and are up to gale strength now.

I found myself saying this to a friend....I can't imagine my country asking me to send my son now, since losing is the decided strategy, and to offer him up...as clearly as a Mayan sacrifice, on the altar of self hatred, self deceit, and ultimately losing our country. For this threat is so very real and we hear the drum beats of take over coming from the Middle East daily...

I am physically ill thinking about Ben's departure....my only son, one who knew in 7th grade that his call from God was to be, like his father's, a pilot in the military protecting his country....he thought it a noble dream. And we encouraged him. We thought the days when his Dad was called a baby killer upon his return from Nam, and was spat upon, reviled, curse out (and those were the times I was with him), are gone, and now our nation (post 9/11) understands the seriousness of the threat, he'll serve honorably (as his father did) and help to preserve our great nation. Only 5 years later we see the flag being slowly taken down the flag pole, as if the service day were over, and taps being played, as if we think tomorrow will rise anew, only it is, in this mother's mind, a final curtain call on a once great nation...

That being said, I must ask you to shout continually in behalf of those of us who send sons and daughters, wives and husbands to war. Shout loudly and if you need a cattle prod to use on a few butts in Washinton, I've got a good one.

Paul:

I know a Marine who returned from Iraq this past May after a 7 month deployment. His unit was dissolved and his fellow Marines reassigned. This Marine joined up with a PSD unit,i.e. Personal Security Detachment, they shadow high ranking NCOs, Officers or visiting dignitaries. They're body guards. I know this Marine is deploying to Irag for his second tour early next year. I know this Marine was a National Merit Scholar and spent a little over a year at one of our nations military acadmies before he decided to become a member of the few,and the proud. The word pride is simply inadequate in describing how honored and privileged I am to know this Marine; he's my son. I'll be wishing him and his unit Godspeed in the not too distant future. Find myself thinking if I was young enough, I'd love to join them.

Jan of Missouri:

Thank you for your compelling article. I am still grieving for a little brother, one I practically raised after our mother died, who was in Vietnam while John Kerry spewed his poison before a Congressional committee. Shortly thereafter, my little brother took a mortar shell to the head. His little brother and I, his older sister, never recovered from the intense grief fueled by the obvious betrayal of our own government. I am sickened by the ISG and by all in it. I am sickened by the loud praise coming from the Democrats who are deliberately obtuse when interpreting the meaning of their close win. I get so depressed thinking about it all that I can't dwell on it for long. I knew a soldier. I know several now. They think they can win, that, in fact, the USA is winning the war, in Iraq, just not in the USA media. How very, very sad.

Patrick, SSgt, USMC ('65-'74):

I went to Vietnam twice and spent six months in Naval Hospitals after my short visit to Hue City in '68. You brought back wonderful memories when you talked about guys teasing each other in rehab. "NO ONE" is allowed to feel sorry for themselves. They have to devote all thought and energy to getting well and getting payback on the rats that just got them.

Richard of New York:

I know a few Marines as well, and I no longer am able to know a few others.

I sadly shake my head at the turn taken by our government, and by our elected leadership. We get whet we elect. The Press is well beyond reproach, yet we have never seen them happier. It is like living through Viet Nam all over again (my fight, 4 years USN).

We have much to repair, it is time to begin to work even harder...

Update: Or, you can hear it straight from these guys, on the ground in Iraq, as Sean Hannity did. 



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TritonTR writes: Tuesday, December, 12, 2006 3:29 PM
Thank You
MKH, Thank you for sharing this. Thank you to those who serve (have served) us in the military. Thank you to those of you who support loved ones who serve.
The Breeze writes: Tuesday, December, 12, 2006 7:25 PM
Thanks to the Military
I agree with TritonTR regarding the military, but please TritonTR don't think that you are going to gain brownie points with Mary by sucking up like that now do you? LOL

Whaz going on here Mary, no tags allowed?
How can any fantastic commenter like myself do a good job of commenting without tags. One might need to leave proof by including links which require tags, well at-least to make them look professional.
Take Back the Government writes: Wednesday, December, 13, 2006 1:16 AM
Even More Dangerous...
is that now our country will not be able to recruit future Marines and Sevicemen to defend her. A young man thinking about joining now must surely be putting two and two together and getting zero. That is what the Democratic Party thinks of you. The government has SANCTIONED their TREASON. The GOP has sanctioned the DEMOCRAT'S TREASON by saying and doing nothing. The GOP didn't even pass motions for censure against Murtha, Durbin, Kennedy, or Kerry or Bonior or McDermott et al when they spoke out TREASONOUS words aginst our military that were aired on al-Jazeera and al-Arabiya all across the Arabian Peninsula. A country that has one political party allowed to commit willful, unchecked, unprosecuted TREASON and murder of its own troops is NOT a country worth defending. It is a country that is committing suicide by refusing to govern itself. There wasa long-standing tradition in American politics of the politics stopping at the water's edge, but the DEMS have indicated since Vietnam that those days are over. Young men, if you are reading this, do not volunteer to serve your country until there is REAL HONEST-TO-GOD, BRASS-BALLS leadership. George Bush is still the preppy Ivy League wuss he always was. He just managed to hoodwink the American People twice to get elected with that Texas accent and swagger and cowboy get-up. It was ALL AN ACT. He was brainwashed to be a spineless wuss and appeaser when he attended Yale.
Take Back the Government writes: Wednesday, December, 13, 2006 1:22 AM
America will never be VICTORIOUS
until she gives up the fantasy of trying to fight a Politically Correct War. There never has been, nor will there ever be such a thing as a Politically Correct War. In WWII, when the Germans held an impregnable monastery/fortress in Italy, the Allies at first resisted taking out this historical gem, but under duress and facing reality, it eventually was bombed to smithereens. We have to deal with the Muqtada al-Sadr's of Iraq with BRUTE force. That is all ARABS and PERSIANS respond to. Saddam should have been executed by the US on the spot. Keeping him around sends the wrong message to an Iraqi People paranoid about whether we will abandon them this time around. Terrorists should be rounded up in the public square and hung for all to see or perhaps beheaded on live Arab television. These animals have to know that we will play hardball just as they have done to us. Only then will we be victorious.
The Breeze writes: Wednesday, December, 13, 2006 4:33 AM
To Take Back the Government
Well Take Back the Government, I then sanction you to do away with the Political Correctness and the Libs Ideas of do it in the road behavior, you know as well as I do that all that junk came about during the early to mid 60's when Lyndon B. Johnson became president, like I talked to a Col. in the Marines and he said that he doesn't blame bush for the state of affairs this Country is in, he had a lot of junk to buck.

So, Take Back the Government, I in charge you to take a walk in his shoes and try to clean up the mess. I am more than sure that you will not find it as easy as just sitting at your chair and typing off your grievances.
tdau1997 writes: Wednesday, December, 13, 2006 8:00 AM
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Military Meets, Exceeds Recruiting Goals
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WASHINGTON (AP) - Though Americans are increasingly pessimistic about the war in Iraq, the Pentagon said Tuesday it is having success enlisting new troops. The Navy and Air Force met their recruiting goals last month while the Army and Marine Corps exceeded theirs, the Defense Department announced.
The Army, which is bearing the brunt of the work in Iraq, did the best. It signed up 6,485 new recruits in November compared with its target of 6,150 - meaning 105 percent of its goal.
All the services turned in similar performances in October as well, meaning they so far are meeting their goals for the 2007 budget year that began Oct. 1.
"The services are starting off well," said Maj. Stewart Upton, a Pentagon spokesman.
The progress in recruiting comes as U.S. pessimism over the Iraq campaign mounts, according to a recent AP-Ipsos poll. Some 63 percent of Americans said they don't expect a stable, democratic government to be established in Iraq, up from 54 percent who felt that way in June.
Dissatisfaction with President Bush's handling of Iraq has climbed to an all-time high of 71 percent, according to the AP-Ipsos survey this month. A bipartisan commission last week released its recommendations for a new course and the president held a series of meetings this week to hear from his advisers.
According to figures released Tuesday by the Pentagon, the Navy signed up 2,887 recruits last month, or 100 percent of its goal; Marines signed up 2,095, or 104 percent of its 2,012 target and the Air Force signed up all 1,877 it was seeking.
The Army also met its goal in the 2006 budget year after missing its target in fiscal year 2005 for the first time since 1999. It added recruiters and offered recruits bonuses to help attract more to the service.
The Army has been recruiting about 80,000 people a year, setting differing monthly goals depending on the time of the year.
Though the active services are doing well, recruiting has lagged for the Army Reserve and Navy Reserve, officials said.
The Army Reserve last month signed up 1,888, or just 79 percent of its 2,376 goal and the Navy Reserve signed up 687 recruits, or just 91 percent of its 755 goal.
Permanent Revolution writes: Wednesday, December, 13, 2006 10:39 AM
Recruiting IS A JOKE!!!
You can say "OHH YES WE ARE MEETING OUR QUOTAS" its easy they could feed the public any bit of garbage and you would all believe it. How can you prove them wrong? Do you have a real list of all the people who were just recruited to compair? No you dont so any information coming from the actual GO ARMY website is garbage. They want you to think that the support for the war is still there but its not. The war in Iraq and terror will be lost, just like every other war that America declared examples
Nixon's War on Drugs
Lincons war on poverty
these are just to name two for example but there are more. i cant wait for America to pull out and the whole world laughs at the stupidity of a nation to stop its Nazi like leader
tdau1997 writes: Wednesday, December, 13, 2006 11:50 AM
"Recruiting IS A JOKE!!!"
And you don't have any evidence to refute their claims, so you are left to hurling baseless accusations. How convincing (/sarcasm_off)

Referring to W as 'Nazi-like' does nothing to bolster your argument. It only shows the Brobdingnagian distance from reality where you dwell...
mutty the tanker writes: Wednesday, December, 13, 2006 11:52 AM
???
was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Lincolns war on poverty?
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