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This is slightly surprising, considering how many left-libertarians the Libertarian party has in it. While Barr has been accused of being a spoiler by bugwits like Sean Hannity, Barr has pointed out the sort of people who will vote for him aren't likely McCain supporters. This is one time I hope Hannity is correct. |
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Actually, McCain is the spoiler. He is denying a Republican a chance to win. |
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They expect us to vote for their Democrat candidate wearing an R jersey. There is now a conservative Republican to vote for. |
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You are voting for a candidate whose position on immigration is really no different than John McCain. Bob Barr said this:
BECK: Do you build the border fence?
BARR: No.
BECK: You got to explain that one. Why not?
BARR: First of all, I think it would be terribly costly. And whatever border fence you build, people are going to find a way to get around it, go under it, go over it, somehow.
I think it would look absolutely awful. And even though it`s a fence to keep people from coming in, as opposed to the Berlin wall, it gives the same impression. Not the impression I want to give the world about America.
BECK: I mean, what am I on "Curb Appeal" all of a sudden? It looks bad? All right, we'll put some flowers there.
http://americanpatrol.com/MISCNEWS/2006-UP/ELECTIONS/2008/B ARR-BOB/GlennBeck080514.htm
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5/17/08 UPDATE: Barr appeared on the Glenn Beck show a few days ago and continued to sound as sleazy and misleading as his opponents as well as other hacks who support massive and/or illegal immigration. Asked whether he'd "ship [illegal aliens] home or not", Barr said:
When you find them, you ship them home, absolutely.
What Barr forgot to mention was that, based on what he's said earlier, that would only occur after having granted an amnesty, and he's only referring to those who came after the amnesty or those who didn't take part in the amnesty.
http://lonewacko.com/blog/archives/007625.html
Well there is always the Constitution Party for you to vote for Virgina Patriot! |
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Many readers have e-mailed asking what I think of former Ga. Rep. Bob Barr’s presidential candidacy (he’s making an official announcement for the Libertarian Party nomination at 11am this morning).
Two words: Not much.
On immigration, he’s virtually indistinguishable from all the other remaining presidential candidates.
On homeland security, he’s joined with what Heather Mac Donald calls the “privocrats” in whipping up unfounded hysteria about intelligence-gathering efforts in a post-9/11 world.
On Iraq, he’s what Allahpundit calls the “poor man’s Ron Paul.”
And doesn’t the ACLU, for which Barr consults, already have enough candidates in the race?
http://michellemalkin.com/2008/05/12/the-bob-barr-candidacy / |
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Except, in this case, only d-o-z-e-n-s of Americans are celebrating.
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Rest easy, Barr is not going to win, he's just going to get the votes of conservatives who are done holding their noses. I expect it to be a Perot redux. |
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Bob Barr:
- Voted for the Iraq War
- Sponsored the Federal Defense of Marriage Act
- Was one of the biggest proponents of the War on Drugs
- Voted for the Patriot Act
- Voted to ban the practice of Wicca in the military
That hardly smacks of libertarianism. Yet from what I understand, his rhetoric and votes do not complement his actions, and he's done a complete 180 from conservatism as of late (opposes a constitutional amendment against gay marriage, wants to withdraw troops ASAP, supports the legalization of marjiuana, and opposes the Patriot Act in addition to a variety of others).
I think the libertarians have discovered their own Barack Obama. No one's quite sure what he stands for. |
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who don't care for Barr there is always Chuck Baldwin running on the Constitution party ticket. |
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I wish Barr well in getting right around the same number of votes as Ralph Nader. In fact, I already have a wager going with a buddy of mine about which one will get more--my money in on Nader. |
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McCain is a one-world-without-borders liberal running as a Republican, Obama is a socialist running as a Democrat, Barr is Republican running as a Republican on the Libertarian ticket.
We are not voting FOR Bob Barr, we are voting AGAINST THE ONE-PARTY SYSTEM!!!! Are you dense or just obtuse?
Don't bring up issues and principles. When the game was on, it was about "electability" and no one wanted to talk about issues. We got McCain. Now that he faces a challenge from a Republican who isn't perfect but IS a Republican, it's about issues.
And bigkam? Barr came out of the gate BEFORE winning the nomination and BEFORE campaigning and already is already polling at 6%. That is all it will take to eliminate any chance for McCain. Better get those illegals registered fast! |
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Joe,
Thanks for providing the truth about Bob Barr's positions.
I think when folks hear what his current positions are, they'll give up the fantasy that Barr is "The Great Conservative Hope."
Barr currently opposes the Iraq War, opposes the Patriot Act, has a similar position on illegal immigration as McCain, and while Barr may not support same-sex marriage per se, he did recently voice support for the way in which the California Supreme Court overturned the will of the people.
And as Michelle Malkin points out, Barr has joined the paranoid hysteria about intelligence gathering---maybe Barr believes Dick Cheney was listening in his phone call to Domino's Pizza on Friday night !
If it turns out that the feds have been snooping on Barr's phone calls, he can get the ACLU to fight them on his behalf.
It won't be difficult for Barr to solicit the ACLU---after all, he's been working for them as a lawyer. |
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Try Chuck Baldwin instead.
http://baldwin2008.com/
He's a hardliner on illegal immigration, for starters.
There is no reason to being stampeded into voting for a slug like McCain. |
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Well, all you McCain types have is 'He's better than Obama.' Well, Barr may not be perfect, but he's better than McCain. He doesn't have a chance of winning, but I don't see a McCain win as a victory. So why not vote Bob Barr? And, another song...think Rasberry Beret...hem hem...
Workin' part time at the GOP
My boss was Mr. McCain.
Told me serveral times that he didn't like my kind..
I was a bit conservaty..
Seems that one day I was asking for something
close to nothing, but different than the day before...
that's when he threw..ooo how he threw me..
threw me out through the in door, in door..
He wore a Che Guevara Beret..
the kind you buy at the La Raza gift store..
Che Guevara beret..if he was a lib, he couldn't get much more..
Thank you..I'll be here for the next 4 years. |
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austinnelly wrote;
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"Well, Barr may not be perfect, but he's better than McCain."
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austinnelly, on which issues do you believe Bob Barr is "better" than John McCain ?
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Barr may not be perfect, but let's not make perfect the enemy of good enough.
Good enough to derail McCain. |
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Are you saying that we should hold our noses and vote for the lesser of three evils? |
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All along, guys like VaPat have been telling us not to vote for McCain because he's an "open borders" candidate. Now he's telling us to vote for Barr, who is just as open-borders as McCain. Why doesn't he just come clean and tell he us the reason he's truly not voting for McCain is because VaPat is a registered Democrat?
In all honesty though, wingnuts and "take my ball and going home conservatives" are not needed in this party, or the conservative movement in general. I'll stick with those who put their country ahead of their own egos, thank you very much--and thankfully, that's most of those over here on the Right. |
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"Well, Barr may not be perfect, but he's better than McCain. He doesn't have a chance of winning, but I don't see a McCain win as a victory. "
I don't see a McCain win as a victory either, but I do see a democrat win as a complete disaster. I already voted for my principles in the primary. Now with the wrong choices in the generals, it is damage control time. In damage control, I have to go for McCain.
Look, politically I'm probably more in line with people like Virginia Patriot and Pasadena Phil. That said, the war must be won, and McCain is the only one that can be taken seriously to do that. If it were not for the war and the borders, I would go for Bob Barr in a New York minute. If he would change his position on those issues, he could win me over, but he won't.
If we don't handle this war properly, it will not matter whether you have a third party or not. |
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Virginia Patriot,
On what issues do you believe Bob Barr is "better" than John McCain ? |
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First the Republicans nominate a horrible candidate...
Then the Dems, as usual, nominate horrible candidates...
And then the Libertarians nominate this fool?
Over the past 4-5 election cycles I have resigned myself to voting for the least worst candidate, but this is just getting ridiculous.
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than the three candidates the two major parties have left us with. I'd prefer Ron Paul. I would consider Bob Barr if he has become Libertarian enough to win that party's endorsment. Just hope he doesn't turn out to be a LINO if he manages to get elected... |
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