You're a liar.
"Romney has consistently stood on the side of life as governor as John Wilke & Jim Bopp and other leaders of Pro-life advocacy have all attested. Furthermore he does NOT "believe" in abortion of any kind but to only allow it in cases of rape or incest"
For all practical purposes thinking it ought to be allowed is no different, you either believe all innocent life ought to protected, or you don't. He did not veto a bill that pays for abortions, and he advocates that it should be allowed in the case of rape or incest.
"this is common among all the candidates including Huckabee."
This is the most disgusting lie, it's just not true.
http://glassbooth.org/explore/index/mike-huckabee/7/abortio n-and-birth-control/16/
"Compare that to McCain who said that the state should allow his daughter to have an abortion if she ever wanted one. He has never retracted this statement despite is pretended Pro-life stance."
McCain performed horribly in that interview in 2000 (4 years before Romney's big "conversion"), but his policy statements and voting record indicate an identical stance to the formerly pro-abortion Romney.
David, lying will not further the cause of your candidate or conservatism.
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McCain debates Hillary, lovingly:
Hillary: Repeal all the Bush Tax cuts!
McCain: I agree!
Hillary: Reward all illegals with citizenship!
McCain: I agree!
Hillary: For now punish America alone for global warming!
McCain: I agree!
Hillary: Alito is too conservative!
McCain: I agree!
Hillary: Abort unwanted babies!
McCain: I agree if it belongs to my daughter!
Hillary: Gay rights!
McCain: Especially if they’re “passionate lesbians”!
Hillary: No Man-Woman Marriage Amendment!
McCain: I agree!
Hillary: Protect incumbents and limit free speech!
McCain: Long live McCain-Feingold!
Hillary: No Alaska drilling!
McCain: I agree!
Hillary: Vote for me!
McCain: I agree! Wait… ! Ummmmmm...
Note: all these responses were derived from ardent McCain statements or positions.
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Romney has consistently stood on the side of life as governor as John Wilke & Jim Bopp and other leaders of Pro-life advocacy have all attested. Furthermore he does NOT "believe" in abortion of any kind but to only allow it in cases of rape or incest - this is common among all the candidates including Huckabee.
Compare that to McCain who said that the state should allow his daughter to have an abortion if she ever wanted one. He has never retracted this statement despite is pretended Pro-life stance. |
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Oh, you pulled the post "conversion" quote from a Romney who knew he wasn't going to be trying to run on his liberal credentials anymore.
He didn't veto the health bill that provided a $50 co-pay for murdering the unborn.
He still believes in murdering unborn babies who are conceived in rape or incest... square that with pro-life.
Bottom line, McCain and Romney are a wash when it comes to pro-life, except that McCain has held his viewpoint for a long time regadless of it's popularity with the constituency he is courting.
God Bless,
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQU0TF18ZfI&NR=1
Read Santorum's quote here as well:
http://www.therealmccain.com
I trust Santorum. He fought the good fight in a state (PA) that is purple at best, and blue on right to life issues. I trust his depiction of McCain, because it's backed up in other sources.
Now. Here's Romney, on Pro-life:
http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/art icles/2005/07/26/why_i_vetoed_contraception_bill/
Romney wrote this in 2005, while governer. Try to remember, he's in one of the bluest of states here, and he's towing the line in preventing further expansion of abortions. Say what you want, but that takes courage. |
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I agree...Romney wasn't my first choice, but I support him over McCain because Romney doesn't stick a fork in our eyes when he takes a non-conservative position. McCain regularly takes the liberal side, but worst of all, he uses liberal rhetoric which is anti-conservative to justify his stupidity.
McCain is liberal on too many important issues. His view of how the country should be run is bound to take us further down the socialism path. I don't want conservatism linked with him as the country heads down the drain. |
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Would rather vote for the guy who has come around to your point of view or the guy who is still giving you the finger? |
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"If people get upset because their candiate didn't win the nomination and they try to spite the Republican party...they are cutting their nose off to spite their face and the last election proved that by putting in the Democrats..."
It's more than that. I (and many conservatives) would not be so upset if the candidate that was left standing was remotely conservative. For example, let's say that Romney (my choice) lost but Fred got the nomination. No problem--great! My guy didn't win, but Fred's a good conservative, so I'll vote for him. However, the problem is that we feel disenfranchised (I hate using that word because it's bandied about so much by Liberals--but it's fitting here). McCain doesn't care about what conservatives think or want; his record proves that. Even now, during the primary when candidates should be addressing the base's concerns, he still refuses to denounce his amnesty bill. Also, his team has a strategy for winning that doesn't include the conservative vote (I saw somone on Fox News the other day saying that McCain's camp thinks they can get enough Indep., Moderates, and Dems, so that they don't need the conservative vote). Why on earth would conservatives want to vote for a candidate like that? Would you want to vote for a candidate that writes you off that nonchalantly?
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What a stunningly witty response. Not.
If I'm wrong, demonstrate it, if not, maybe you should just slink away.
Regarding Ann and her minions, were you ever really pro-life, or was it always just a position of convenience to help ensure the social conservatives would stay in line? The unavoidable conclusion of your statements is that you really don't think abortion is a major issue. It's interesting that you spew more bile at McCain than you did at Guilliani... |
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Thanks for your well reasoned responses. You have changed my mind. McCain isn't Hillary. Hillary has principles. McCain doesn't. Thanks for showing me the light. ;-) |
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Mitt, a conservative? You have to be kidding me!
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The Lib media has already started to warm up the machinery against a McCain candidancy. A piece ran yesterday on National Public Radio warning unsuspecting Libs about Sen. McCain's pro-life voting record.
Misperceptions About McCain's Abortion Stance
The misperception is interesting, considering that McCain has not attempted to keep his pro-life views a secret. Here's how he put it on an appearance last year on NBC's Meet the Press:
"I have stated time after time after time that Roe v Wade was a bad decision, that I support a woman — the rights of the unborn — that I have fought for human rights and human dignity throughout my entire political career," McCain said. "To me, it's an issue of human rights and human dignity."
And while now former candidate Fred Thompson, the former senator from Tennessee, won the coveted endorsement from the National Right to Life Committee, McCain's voting record on the issue is just fine, says David O'Steen, the group's executive director.
"He's been very consistent; he hasn't changed his position," O'Steen says. He says that his group has supported McCain in every one of his senate races. "We've always considered him pro-life," he says.
Nancy Keenan, president of NARAL Pro-Choice America, says her group has always considered McCain pro-life as well. And it's not just abortion, she says.
"He voted against family planning, he voted against the freedom of access to clinic entrances — that was about violence against women in clinics," Keenan says, adding, "He voted against funding for teen pregnancy-prevention programs, and making sure that abstinence only was medically accurate. This is very, very extreme."
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=186328 02&ft=1&f=1001
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You truly aren't bright enought to get it are you? Please....sit in your cornor forever...it's best place for you. Here's to a NEW Republican Party....a sane one. |
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Uh - do you not realize that without talk radio, a media that you seem to hold in contempt, there would be no 90's Republican revolution??? There would be no Bush Presidency. The liberal democrats would be running wild in this country.
I find it amazing that there is so much contempt for talk radio in the Republican party when without talk radio, the party would be no where. You guys can can sit there and bash talk radio and its listeners, but without these people (myself included) the Republican party does not have a prayer - just like McCain does not have a prayer in the general. |
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A Romney supporter accusing McCain of holding positions out of self-interest for 30 years? Boy, I so believe people can make heartfelt reversals, but Romney's anti-conservative on everything to conservative on everything (except in Michigan where he is anti-conservative again) takes the cake.
Laura Ingraham rails against the "elitists" dictating, the sound hear on this blog is blog-elites claiming the consevative crown and that they are the conservative base no matter how small they are, as evidenced by the polls.
The reality is that McCain and Romney are really a wash if you make an honest estimate of their records. The difference is that McCain's less than conservative stances have pissed off the conservative loudmouths so much as a national player, and Romney only pissed off the MA conservative loudmouths (if there are any).
To claim that McCain is anywhere close to Hillary on policy is truly bizarre, come on, be objective. Support your candidate and let the best man win, but stop making yourselves look lake lunatics.
God Bless,
Matt
ps. neither candidate is truly pro-life as they both believe in murdering babies concieved in rape or incest, and experimenting on "unwanted" human embryos. |
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When I cam to the part in the early 90's it was with the revolution started with the Republicans behind the contract with America. Those republicans favored big budget cuts, tax cuts, welfare reform, spending reform, the line item veto, pro-life, conservative judges, and sensible policies towards entitlements.
That group was a huge success and forced Clinton into balanced budgets, prevented further tax increases, and kept conservative principals in line.
That group was undermined by the corruption of Tom Delay and Duke Cunningham, the lobbying excesses of Rick Santorum(A lobbyist himself now) and most notably by the lack of discipline by our own president in every area but judicial appointments.
That is why I am voting for McCain. I am sorry to say this, but I flatly do not believe that Romney, Thompson or Guiliani would have reigned in the corrpution that permeates the two parties.
I know that most of the talk radio hosts and bloggers look down on these issues. They gave Bush, DeLay, etc. a free pass for years at the expense of their principals. Now a large percentage of Republicans want answers and McCain gave a response on these issues. Romney is only now taking up the mantle as the hardline spending cutter, but usually he is a typical give the goodies Republican, offering tax cuts but little in the way of financial discipline.
I know these comments will rain down scorn from the bloggers, but they all know a large percentage of Republicans support McCain. We re probably the same group digusted with the Republican field in 06. McCain is interested in pursuing a conservative agenda. Unfortunately it is a side of conservatism many tax cut and spend Republicans don't care about. |
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America is resiliant. The Constitution was written in such a way that, even if the president is a crook, a traitor, or a bonehead, he is not powerful enough to destroy the nation. Even Jimmy Carter couldn't do it, although I am sure there are a lot if Iranians who wish he had just remained the "nicest" peanut farmer in Georgia.
And after 4 years of Carter, Reagan had a ton of ammunition with which to bring down, not only Democrats, but liberals within the Republican Party. RINO's love to talk about Reagan's "big tent" approach, but they don't realize that they were the monkeys set up for comic relief, not the death-defying acrobats. CNN loves to mention that David Gergin was a Reagan advisor, but like to forget that Reagan ignored his advisors a lot.
My point: bad government under Clinton is good for conservatism, bad government under McCain would be disasterous, since the Republican Party would get the blame.
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I joined the Republican party when I was 18 because I believed it to be the party that was trying to advance the conservative movement. This election process has revealed that the Republican party has many liberals in the party that are more interested in power than ideology. If the party nominates a liberal like John McCain, then the entire reason I joined the party will be gone. John McCain is not a conservative, and his actions in the Senate over the past 8 years clearly shows he's not the least bit interested in advancing the conservative movement. |
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Yes, much better to have the illegals slit our throats.
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Not to disbelieve you or assail your intentions but your entire post was stated in such a categorical manner as to lead us to believe you actually have insider information that no one else has.
I have read NOTHING that confirms what you say but if you have a cite, please let us know.
Given that Fred had to give up a career to go on the campaign trail (and yes, he campaigned conservatively - one of the things I liked about him) and he performed admirably I think. In fact, he performed better than all of the rest of the candidates with regard to his appearances, both in the debates and otherwise. He was the man to beat and the libs in NH and SC made sure that he would be beaten when they crossed over and voted for McCain.
Fred could have bested the other candidates if we had started the primary season in the red states and only later went to the blue. The primary system is biased to favor liberal candidates, I think we all recognize this. Fred did well given the leftward tilt of the early states.
My OPINION (for that is what all of this is) is that Fred dropped out after SC in order to give Mitt a boost. He could have easily stayed in through next Tuesday and made it impossible for Mitt to get the nomination, but he dropped out, thereby giving Mitt millions of votes he would otherwise not have had. Fred's voters do not go to McCain, they go to Mitt and thus, I think your conspiracy theory has several major holes in it. |
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Ms. Coulter is correct.
Yes, Clinton will hurt the country faster than McCain, but a McCain victory tells me that the country has reached the point of majority ignorance and thinks the government can take care of their every need and make the most difficult personal decisions for them.
This being the case, I'd prefer the country see the consequences of socialism sooner rather than later so we can recover and move on that much quicker.
Clinton is a beheading by guillotine. McCain is Chinese water torture. I pick the quick and painful death over the slow and painful death.
I'll never vote for McCain, nor will any members of my immediate family. The Republican party nominates him at their own peril. |
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If we had the ability to put a bubble of this county, keep everyone out, become soley dependent on ourselves - what would happen.
Answer: We would begin to slit each other's throats in quest for power. We would destroy ourselves from within...with the rest of the world watching. Something to think about. |
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Support a Party that will subvert Our National Sovereignty in myriad ways if allowed to come to power.
Without a robust Economy WE All Suffer Equally.
This election I am not of the mind to cast a vote for a man who admittedly "knows nothing" about the economy!
Little wonder coming from someone who, no matter how you slice, SPENT OUR MONEY! Who cares about the times "the sheriff" saved Us money... he was still responsible for Spending large amounts of Our Money and, more often than not we didn't get what we wanted.
Do the words - "Already Paid For Border Fence" mean anything to any of you?
Why couldn't "the sheriff" do something about getting his colleagues to follow the law AND the WILL of The People on that one?
REAL SECURITY
Without Illegals
Without Compromise
Without Going Broke
Without Voting McCain
W/O=
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Then I will have to re-think my entire position on this coming election.
Right now though, it would destroy Fred's credibility with me as "an upstanding guy" because I WILL feel betrayed, By the Entire Party Apparatchik.
W/O= |
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Because of Fred's stated position on illegal immigration, he will not endorse McCain until it's safe to do so, after McCain sews up the nomination. |
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Spoke Volumes to those who heard it.
W/O= |
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One of the people instrumental in getting Fred in was Howard Baker. The goal of the RNC all along was an amnesty candidate. It was McCain's turn, Rudy would have worked if McCain was too damaged from the last amnesty fight. Fred was never intended to get nominated. He certainly did not act like he wanted to be. His service to his party was to dilute conservative votes. |
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Yesterday why did I not see the press conference of Thompson endorsing his 'friend' McNamNasty. Maybe Mad Mac's way of saying "my friend" reminded the Former Senator of old times and, NOT in a good way?
All speculation I'll admit but Really...where was yesterday's endorsement?
No Compromise
No Illegals
No Liberal President
No McCain
W/O=
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I really hope you are not correct in your assessment of Fred. I believe him to be a principled conservative and while McCain was a colleague and remains a friend, I truly believe that Thompson entered because he was drafted and encouraged to enter by friends and his wife. |
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If people get upset because their candiate didn't win the nomination and they try to spite the Republican party...they are cutting their nose off to spite their face and the last election proved that by putting in the Democrats
has done nothing but, give them an opening for President.I use to think it didn't matter what party, it was for the best man running, I sure changed my view on that,when I read and hear their positions and from their mouth, I don't listen to the media...I have a mind of my own
the Democrats scare me for what can happen to this Country..they are just way too Liberal for me.
For the people that think it's a womans right to have a abortion...when it comes to a woman carrying the baby to full term and wanting an abortion...partial-birth abortion is what they have...the doctor then pulls the baby have out or waits until it's half out and then keeps it from coming all the way out, then while full term and alive, they punture a hole at the back of the head and suck it's brains out.
If they let the little body come all the way out it can be determinted murder...so the doctor won't let it come out all the way.
Now, you got to admitt thats a pretty hard hearted woman & doctor that can do that.
But, the Democrats approve of it. Why? ask yourself...answer: a baby can't vote
What's next for the senior citizens when they think a person doesn't have the mentality to vote. SCARY Thought! |
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If anyone would really pay attention to how Fred entered this race, didn't really want to campaign
and the only time he came awake as some stated,
It was only to attack McCain rivals, then when he lost S.C. his speech was "I hope I served my party" Now Fred people explain how he could have possibly have served his party the way he ran?
As far as Rudy he is in question since these two Thompson men are suppose to be intelligent and know how the political scheme works, why did they run the way they did. Also, people think Huckabee is after the VP, I don't think so my thought is on Fred or Rudy, because Thompson and Rudy has been long time friends with McCain, not Huckabee, I believe Huckabee is just showing respect for McCain's service as a POW.
As for Romney and supporter saying "A Vote For Huckabee, Is A Vote For McCain" is just plain silly. A vote for whomever is a vote for that person, anyone voting for Huckabee WILL NOT VOTE FOR ROMNEY, and it has nothing to do with him being a Mormon. |
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The Reagan coalition is in jeopordy because it has been held together by one single thread: the quest for power. We had 12 years w/RR and GB1; then had to stay together during Clinton. After 8 years of GB2 - all 3 pieces of the coalition realize that power isn't enough. Eventually, everyone realizes that no matter who is in the WH, we are lucky if we only get a crumb of what we would like to have. Now everyone is screaming that if the don't get "the entire loaf" - well - they will through a tantrum and stay home or now they might vote a Dem. What no one wants to face is the truth. A coalition - any coalition - based soley on holding power, is short sided and destined to break apart and fail. Now is the time to figure out what's best for this country not a destined to fail coalition. America wasn't formed to provide a power struction for the Reagan coalition. It was formed with the the hope of being the best we can be. Whiny hissy fits and tantrums will get us no where. The coalition as it was is over and we can be better from lessons learned or simply become irrelevent. |
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beeblebrox thank you for making an effort to explain my question.
However, it is still a scary thought that a group of people has all this information on everyone that even the Gov. doesn't have.
If another group of people, exspecially a religion wouldn't people scream it was like Big Brother for the Gov.?
I know where you are coming from with your answer
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Sadly, I've come to the conclusion that Fred was only in this to dilute the conservative vote to make this opening for his friend, John McCain. Same with Rudy. |
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I'm backing Mitt in the primary here in Cali, and in the General Election in Nov if he gets the nod.
If McCain's the candidate, I'm either abstaining, or voting for his Dem opponent.
Time for people in Hell to buy snowshoes.
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Jewell, the reason that Mormons have such an extensive geneological database (kept safe from danger in a mountain in Utah) is that they are doctrinally bound to do proxy work for their dead relatives in order to get them into heaven after the fact.
If you don't know who your relatives are, it's a bit hard to do that proxy work, if you get my drift.
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You got that right.
Border security is THE #1 issue facing this country today
Of the two candidates, Hillary or John, which one sponsored and promoted the foreign invasion last year?
Coulter is right to support Hillary. If it were not for the fact that I'm writing in Fred Thompson in Nov. should McCain get the nomination, I would probably follow her suit.
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Coulter is always a colorful commentator, but McCain = Hillary on the invasion, and she's right, Hillary voted for the war, and despite the democratic primary rhetoric, she's a smart woman and won't bring everybody home tomorrow.
Its the invasion stupid, and Coulter pulled a Limbaugh by demonstrating the absurdity of picking McAmnesty by being (only a little) absurd.
Its the invasion stupid. |
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Who really cares if "Ann Coulter is putting her career ahead of the country"? It is McCain putting his career ahead of the country that should be the concern. |
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…for not compromising conservative principles.
I too will always vote for the strongest conservative candidate and not simply the candidate with an (R) after his name. And when you consider amnesty, campaign finance reform, tax cuts, etc., the candidate with the substantiative conservative record is not McCain.
Uniting behind a pseudo-conservative for any reason other than to uphold conservative ideals is a superficial gesture and destructive to the movement and the Republican Party. |
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Closet GOP writes:
"To think that McCain is a liberal is just plain silly and makes us look even more silly."
This is your opinion and THAT'S ALL IT IS. I could argue using facts (as opposed to whatever it is that informs your opinions) that McCain IS a liberal and therefore, it is YOUR opinion that is "silly". If it were not for his stance on the war and on the life issue (both of which are mostly self-serving rather than principled but I'll still credit him on these two), he would have a 30 ACU rating at best.
Keep in mind, his stance on the war was really no different than Harry Reid's awhile back when Reid was calling for more troops to go into Iraq. Reid also supported the war. The fact that Reid, et. al flipped on the war issue does not change the fact that their position was originally a conservative one but one that didn't make them conservatives.
There are other libs in Congress who are pro-life. Doesn't make them a conservative either.
By the way, to the person who said that McCain has done more for this country than any of us bloggers. WRONG. He has heavily damaged this country and quite possibly has managed to start the beginning of the end of the Reagan coalition which seeks to increase personal liberty and freedom in America. Thanks John for accelerating the onslaught of socialism.
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It's not really a question of whether McCain is better or worse that Hillary or Obama. I'll grant you that the latter two are more liberal than McCain. But for me and other conservatives, the issue is the future of the party and having our concerns heard. Why are we the ones who have to squelch our values and bury our concerns while McCain panders to the illegals and fights for other liberal causes? The Republican party has become increasingly deaf to the concerns of conservatives. How else are conservatives to let the party know that we're dissatisfied except by voting for someone else or by sitting out the election? If there's another effective way, please let me know, and I'll consider it. So far, McCain has been stubborn and arrogant in his refusal to address concerns of conservatives (although he has no problem "reaching across the aisle"--as far as I'm concerned he doesn't have to because he's IN the other aisle). We are in a primary, and he's still semi-defending his amnesty bill! That shows me that he is not seeking my [conservative] vote, so I won't be voting for him. |
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AJC-Tension over the Republican race for president bubbled into the open on Saturday, as Georgia’s two U.S. senators endorsed John McCain — to the outrage and disappointment of many of the activists who form the party’s base.
Talk about the move by Saxby Chambliss, who is up for re-election this year, and Johnny Isakson filled the hallways at the annual winter meeting of the Georgia Christian Alliance, a gathering of religious conservatives that attracts many Republican activists.
Both senators are to appear at a 5:30 p.m. McCain rally at the Cobb Galleria.
Isakson attended the GCA meeting this morning.
“The war in Iraq — the war on terror — is to me the most important issue we face,” Isakson said afterwards, explaining why he had cast his personal vote for McCain the day before.
Isakson also mentioned McCain’s opposition to the growth of the federal budget, and uncontrolled spending through “earmarks.”
“He was strong on that before it was cool.”
Said Chambliss, in a telephone interview:
“We’re a strong military state and we need a strong commander in chief,” the senior senator said. “At the end of the day
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http://controlcongress.com/uncategorized/isakson-chambliss- endorse-mccain
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I'm not voting for McCain but, I remember in their first or second debate it came up about if we had to go to war, he said,"He would consult with his lawyers" and all the other candiates from the way it seemed thought that strange to want to consult lawyers.
Also, when he is just talking he can sound good like a CEO in a board meeting, but when he gets challenged (or attacked) face to face he gets very nervous and can't speak as well. He seems to get intimidated easy face to face with someone. |
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I'm not voting for McCain but, I remember in their first or second debate it came up about if we had to go to war, he said,"He would consult with his lawyers" and all the other candiates from the way it seemed thought that strange to want to consult lawyers.
Also, when he is just talking he can sound good like a CEO in a board meeting, but when he gets challenged (or attacked) face to face he gets very nervous and can't speak as well. He seems to get intimidated easy face to face with someone. |
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Nothing against Mormon religion but.....
Why does the Mormons have all the information on everyone?
If you want information about your ancestors, the Mormons have it. The Mormons keep information about everybody.
It's just kinda scary to think one group of people keeps all this information on everyone and their families.
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I am retired military, I hate the klintons, I am very conservative. I don't see much difference between mccain and billary. Both find the US Constitution and the Bill of Rights an inconvenient problem, to be used and abused as they can. Mccain is as crooked as the klintons, mccain has managed to do more damage to the US Constitution and the Bill of Rights in the last 8 years then the klintons did in their 8. They klintons have managed to milk their power and reap hugh rewards, mccain just can't seem to accomplish that. Perhaps power and status trump all for mccain.
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I am retired military, I hate the klintons, I am very conservative. I don't see much difference between mccain and billary. Both find the US Constitution and the Bill of Rights an inconvenient problem, to be used and abused as they can. Mccain is as crooked as the klintons, mccain has managed to do more damage to the US Constitution and the Bill of Rights in the last 8 years then the klintons did in their 8. They klintons have managed to milk their power and reap hugh rewards, mccain just can't seem to accomplish that. Perhaps power and status trump all for mccain.
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says really dumb things. The smart blond lawyer who uses her brain sometimes says really smart things. Unfortunately they are the same person.
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I hope that ALL the RINOs in the Republican Party realize that they are voting for a person who will be embarassed in November as ALL of the TRUE Conservatives stay in their nice warm and cozy homes and see the results of the DEM's landslide victory over McKennedy and the Huckster ( V.P. ).
I WILL NEVER vote for McAmnesty/Hucksterby and I pray that no other TRUE Republican Conservative will either. When the Country goes down the drain because of Liberalism's effects ( which it will if the Dems OR McFeingold/Huckster win ) then the blame has to be laid at the Dems door and not the Republican Party.
If McGang-of-14 should win the Republican nomination then the Conservative base MUST make certain that he suffers a humiliating loss in November in order to send a message to Republican Party Leaders that they WILL adhere to Conservative Values or they will never win another election OR re-election.
Ann Coulter has the exact right approach and attitude the Conservative base HAS to have and take in order to regain control of the Republican Party. Thank God for Ann!!
Mitt Romney is who can bring TRUE Conservative values to the table in November NOT John McPride. Hey RINOs, there is still time to vote for a potetial WINNER in November and not a SURE LOSER!!
Vote for Mitt Romney or WASTE your vote!!
Posted by Roger from Alabama | February 3, 2008 2:59 AM
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McCain's ability to survive in Vietnam is heroic but he has become a typical idiotic Washington RINO dinosaur who has shown us over and over that his grasp on domestic issues barely matches those of typical government school first graders.
McCain will wind up with 0% of the conservative vote after those of us who will vote for Hillary cancel out those who decided to vote for him against their principles and the rest decide to sit this one out. For McCain to win he'd not only need about 100% of independents but he'd also need a fair share of Democrats to make it a race.
Do any of you really believe the Clintons have any fear of losing to McCain when they have praised him so consistently? And what do you think the main stream media will do once McCain's wrapped up the nomination? He'll be lucky to get 2% of the articles about him to have anything nice to say. Then he'll eventually blow his cool and the media will hit him relentlessly as not having the right temperament for the job. Imagine how far the media could run with that to portray the Republican Party as the party of 'angry white men' (all Al Gore, Michael Moore, etc. proof to the contrary.)
Let's save them the trouble (and ourselves the heartache.) John McCain is about 99% as bad as Hillary Clinton and if we’re going to have the class-warfare, profit is criminal, taxes are too low, gun confiscating, more government is the solution, and amnesty policies of the Democratic party, we want to make sure it’s by a Democrat so voters will be clear as to who to blame in 2012 when those policies inevitably wreck the economy, our society, and ultimately cripple our ability to defend ourselves from those who wish us harm.
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The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them away.---Ronald Reagan
Good people do not need laws to tell them to act responsibly, while bad people will find a way around the laws.---Plato |
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A vote for McCain is a vote for the Democratic Party. Here's a man who repeatedly seems to consider profit a criminal enterprise. Who thinks the pharmaceutical companies and oil companies are the enemy. Maybe John McCain can tell us exactly how many life saving drugs the US Government has invented in the last few decades?
God forbid McCain wins in Nov. Can you imagine what Kennedy and crew have in store when they can count on the 'Republican' president to rubber stamp all their liberal economy shattering policies in the name of 'getting things done?'
The Republicans reward in 2012 for electing the 'electable' candidate would be the Dems being able to lay our devastated economy and society at the feet of the incumbent business-hating, class warfare spewing, 'Republican' president.
John McCain despises us and is fairly open about showing it.
Don't you find it amazing how all the Dems say McCain's the one they're worried about? Do you think the New York Times would have endorsed him if they thought for a minute the he might actually win in November? Come on. The reason all the talking heads are trashing Romney is because he is the LAST person they want to face in a general election. If McCain wins the Republican nomination, the Dems have already won because both candidates will be big government, nanny state, economy-bashing, dittohead, Dems.
If we're going to have Democratic policies devastating our economy and our society for the next 4 years, it should come from a Democrat so the voters know exactly who to blame in 2012 and Republicans can come back in a tidal wave that would make the 1994 revolution look like a anthill compared to Mount Everest.
How far have we regressed when JFK's "Ask not what your country can do for you" has been replaced with today's message of you can't do anything for yourself unless we (the government) choose to grant it to you. |
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"One pundit put it this way: When as the last chance something in politics really scared you?
It was probably socializing health care."
Well now that sounds like something Mitt Romney might have done. Yep, Mitt already gave Massachusetts socialized health care. Mandatory.
Now Massachusetts has some of the highest health care premiums in the country.
It's also the model that both Hillary and Obama have designed there plans after.
A self professed "conservative" outlining socialized health care that democrats like.
Sorry, Mitt that's bad leadership.
What say you Mitt supporters?
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Once again you are using stupid girl logic. Still can't drive a car huh? |
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Thanks Closet GOP--The fact is both are good guys who care very deeply about this country. Both have done more for this country than most of the bloggers on this site, and certainly more than the talking heads. It is very easy to be a critic and never run for office yourself. May God Bless both of them! |
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Anne may be extreme and ready to put her career on line but she is a true republican if you beleive in your conservative values You should not settle for Mcain. He is not a republican he is just like Leiberman an independant leaning towards democrats and if the republican give in that's the end of the republican party. We will only win future elections by having candidates like Juan Mcain. |
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Thanks for being a Romney supporter of reason. I am the same way but I am for McCain. But if it ain't him, Romney is my guy. |
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I will be voting for Romney on Tuesday. If he loses and McCain is the nominee, I will vote for McCain.
McCain has bested you "true" conservatives by doing the work and running for office. By you "true" conservatives taking your political balls and going home, we will end up with "true" socialists in the White House, Hillary & Obama. That makes you freggin brilliant! Thanks for nothing. Let me repeat...Ann, Shut Up & Run!!!!!
The republican party is big enough for conservatives, moderates & liberal Republicans. I would take Rudy G any day of the week over a liberal democrat, like the morons in Berkeley, Ca. The problem is that many on this site are using a political thermometer up everyone's behinds to determine who is a true conservative. The result---dems, socialists and Berkeley nuts win.
If you want to stand alone in a room and decide how great you are that you are a conservative, that is your decision, but you will be paying higher taxes and the country will be closer to being like France.
OR, accept that you may have lost this cycle and prepare for the next one. You had your shots with conservative candidates and they were found lacking as candidates. Cowboy Up, lick your wounds and back the republican nominee.
If you think you can do a better job next time, then YOU RUN!! Whining and being a conservative don't mix!!
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Horizonscanner wrote: "Crie de coeur
For those of us who love Ann, we can only surmise
(and hope) that her outburst is a crie de coeur.
Sometimes an intellectual has to do or say something that is patently absurd in order to shake up an intolerable situation. Women do this in marriages and families; in a way, Ann
is family."
Ann was making a modest proposal. |
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I am not saying I agree with McCain on every issue. My point is that he is better than Clinton or Obama. To think that McCain is a liberal is just plain silly and makes us look even more silly. |
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Make your own list and compare it with Hillary or Barak. If our nominee is Mitt, support him too. Anyone is better than the Dems. |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQU0TF18ZfI&NR=1
Nice to see, as a social conservative, but I wonder if McCainiacs would kindly shut their pie holes about Romney's evolution on the issue, now that their darling has finally started having his flips and flops pegged by the MLM?... |
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1624874/posts
"McCain also showed signs of abandoning his social conservative views. He came out in favor of government-financed stem cell research. During the 2000 presidential campaign, he declared "certainly in the short term or even in the long term, I would not support the repeal of Roe v. Wade." He said that if his daughter wanted an abortion, he would leave the decision up to her. (He did retreat from both these comments after conservatives recoiled in horror, but his real thinking on the subject seemed perfectly clear.)" |
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1624874/posts
"McCain also showed signs of abandoning his social conservative views. He came out in favor of government-financed stem cell research. During the 2000 presidential campaign, he declared "certainly in the short term or even in the long term, I would not support the repeal of Roe v. Wade." He said that if his daughter wanted an abortion, he would leave the decision up to her. (He did retreat from both these comments after conservatives recoiled in horror, but his real thinking on the subject seemed perfectly clear.)"
And this was all back in 2000. Now we also know that Alito is "too conservative" for him, and suing Wisconsin Right to Life was a no-brainer for him.
What's with 1999 positions on Pro-life or for that matter 1970's era quotes anyway? Are the McCaniacs lurking around here getting that desperate? |
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The Republican Party is being highjacked!! Time is running out. The liberal media and independents will decide the Republican nominee in a couple of days. Unless something shocking, someone fearless shakes Republicans to the core. The alternative is that the great liberal, betrayer, John McCain, will represent Republicans in 2008.
Ann has stepped forward to dramatize the insanity. Her statement to vote for Hillary, if McCain is the nominee, is a perfect antidote to the lunacy of a McCain speaking for conservatives. The real shock is that so many Republicans have been fooled.
Whether Ann is serious about her vote is not important. This story has made news across the nation, dramatizing the deranged madmess of selecting lefty McCain to lead the Republican Party. It has become the rallying cry that may turn this nightmare around. I will join Ann and cast a vote for anyone but McCain. Forget conservative pundits who criticize Ann. Drastic measures are needed. Vote for Mitt. |
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Although I agree with most, but not all, of what they say, these angry strident types, who so willfully attack their own now, such as Coulter, Rush, etc, (the list is long), well, they turn me off with all their rage so I turn them off. Why all the spite?
For me I can forgive Huck on wanting to help the children of illegal immigrants or slighly raising taxes easier than I can forgive Mitt for being pro-choice for a season. It is a matter of perspective.
It is all about what you are willing to forgive. Mac has an 83% conservative lifetime voting record in the senate, and that would be better if it were 93% but a B is better than an F. |
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How many decades old is that quote? 3+? Please. |
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How about these instead:
McCain-Feingold
McCain-Kennedy
McCain-Lieberman
How come there are so many McCain-(Liberal Dem Name here) bills?
Joe Lieberman endorsement
NY Times endorsement
LA Times endorsement
RINO Rudy Giuliani endorsement
Ahnuld "Fake-Repub" Schwarzenegger endorsement
Gang of 14
Keating Scandal
Debate lies about Romney's positions (Does that count as "Tearing into"?)
Sorry, pal, your list is pathetic.
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Her show on Hannity and Colmes was just what I needed--a good laugh. Obviously she has hit a brick wall trying to deal with the whole McCain horror show! lol |
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He kept saying "No amnesty". I didn't know he meant it depends on what the meaning of the words no and amnesty is. is. is. |
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I think those posting that they are digusted with Ann Coulter are simply covering their fear that she's tapped into a nerve that has run not only at TH, but FreeRepublic and elsewhere, since early last year. She's willing to be the target, so long as the message gets out to a wider audience. As Dr. Strangelove asked, "What goods a deterent if no one knows about it?" They're starting to know -- the base won't stomach McCain. Just be prepared for the powers that be to put the screws on if McCain is nomincated...there will be screaming and gnashing of teeth at us from all quarters. I think they're counting on bullying the base into "nose holding". It's a game of chicken, and I'd not want to be playing it against the angry conservative base.
Vote for Mitt on Tues or Hillary in Nov. |
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That was before GWB turned Virginia into a border state by cutting enforcement to none. |
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You gotta get a taste of a Carter to get Reagan. |
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Let's start with immigration: GWB ran on comp reform in 00 - not a peep from the "conservatives"; he ran on it again in 04 - not a peep from "conservitives". Funny - as soon as the 04 election...boom. REALLY. I think the lack of sincerity is astonishing. You should have rallied against him in 00/04..but you didn't. Security wasn't important enought to risk losing power over it, was it? As far as McCain, he knows the answer to immigration is comprehensive and the mistake he made was to separate the border issue out of it. If you want to boot all of the illegals out - go for it. It will destroy our economy practically over night. But we will find out who'll be willing to pick the crops so that you and the rest of your "get them out now" gang can eat. Be careful what you wish for. Don't get me wrong, it is a big problem and a drain on many of our services. But please, spare me this "all our problems are caused by the illegals" line. We all know that's not the case. |
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what the hell is a troll, and why are you call me one??? |
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It has NOTHING to do with Ann Coulter. I had already come that conclusion - on my own - long before she did. Hugh thinks he's some kind of thought leader, well he's not in charge of my thoughts or motivations. I did not decide to vote for Mitt on a whim, I chose him from the beginning over a year ago.
So, don't shoot the messenger. It's nice of Ann to get on board [it would have been nicer if she did it sooner and without the cynicism she has exuded throughout this entire campaign period], but, I will either vote Democrat [if it's close] or not vote, but HELL WILL FREEZE OVER, before I would vote for mccain!
This fantasy that Republican voters are going to go along to get along (i.e., YOU choose the candidate, then WE go vote) as long as there is an (R)behind their name - I won't play that game.
Look at where we are and where this country could have been. This country has SO much potential, but it will never be realized with more 'go along to get along.' |
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Chris S.
Slow it down. Think it through. No need to attack people ad hominem.
You sound a little hysterical over there. In fact, you sound a little McManiacal yourself.
Remember, I saw the whites of McCain's eyes and was able to fire off this post.
I agree that McCain poses a terrible dilemma because he really doesn't have the character of a chief executive or even a Joint Chief of Staff admiral. This should be self evident from my account.
When Romney had the chance to get the upper hand on McCain, he didn't take it. Not that it is the easiest thing to do. But, Romney should have been prepared to trap McCain in the debate and render him speechless by crushing his mind, or, at least, outwitting him by citing an Arizona paper of Conservative repute that had endorsed Romney after McCain, better prepared, cited the Herald. It's at that level that McCain fights. He's the pig and he likes it. |
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What is offensive to me is that the MSM refers to conservatives as "extremist" simply because they hold strong views.
My main problem with McCain is that he is unprincipled. He seems to want to buck the GOP simply to make friends with the Dems. Take national security, for instance. He claims to be the best candidate on that issue, right? Well, if that's so, why did his own McCain-Kennedy bill not include a provision for securing the border? He's in the Republican party and supposed to be for smaller government, right? If that's so, why was he willing to allow millions of illegals to stay in our country, draining our resources? In short, he says he stands for one thing, but his actions speak otherwise. Believe it or not, Hillary seems more principled to me than McCain. I don't agree with any of her principles, but at least I know what they are and she seems to stick to them.
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Matt Lewis,
We realize you've been in the bag for McCain since 2000. (or was it 1999 ?)
Don't worry, I plan to vote early and often for whomever the GOP candidate is.
Fighting Islamic Jihad, taxes, and Supreme Court nominations are much too important to defer the Oral Office back to a Dhimmicrat.
But you're getting a little pretentious with your prostestations about what Ann Coulter said.
After all, you wrote several months ago that you could "never vote" for someone who holds Rudy Giuliani's position on abortion.
So, if we take you at your word, you'd be saying the same thing Coulter is saying if it appeared that Giuliani was going to be our nominee. |
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No liberal here--I learned my liberal lesson the 1st time I voted in college, standing in line to vote for Jimmy Carter. They called the election for Reagan, I voted for Carter anyway. I went back home believing we would all be blown up in a nuclear war. That's what Reagan represented. Of course, the opposite thing happened. I learned that the unreasonable extreme of anything is ultimately destructive. I voted for Bush I, Dole and Bush II - not always happy about it either. But I do believe that this country works better from the right of center point of view. It's when the extremes come into play that it goes crazy. Unfortunately, there is no perfect anybody - and frankly never will be. We have to do the best we can. The anger out there is completely unproductive and useless. It only hurts those who are angry. |
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Trust me...fewer and fewer people care about a small group of pious frauds. You are a tiny fraction of Republican population and you're not particularily impressive. I really don't care about your anger. You simply want your way. You won't come close to a victory without the help of moderates and we are tired of the hypocrites and frauds on the far right that think they are entitled.....just like those on the far left. Gee....know that I think about it, you are really opposite sides of the same coin. Angry at the world all day.....in the same bed all night long. |
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Everytime I hear someone refer to themselves as an "independent" or a "moderate" that usually means "liberal" to me. |
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Has anyone noticed that the conservative outcry against Mr. Straight Talk is virtually being ignored by the Main Stream Media, including the so-called Republican pundits? Bill O'Reilly did mention "conservative angst" and I've heard a few people say that McCain must "win over conservatives" (as if we're that stupid), but the level of anger I'm seeing on the Internet and from callers on talk radio is not being reported. I find this astonishing (I don't know why I do since I should be used to this type of bull by now).
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Here's the problem. There are more moderate rebublicans and right leaning independents than so called "conservatives". Moderates are tired of being told that they are not "pure" enough for the high and mighty. If the Reps put up a far righter....we will leave in droves.....and it will be a long time before you have power. But then you can form the "conservative vitims" alliance and live happily ever after. |
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Horizonscanner to put it mildly your posts are really bizarre. Let me make this simple, as Rush said if McCain wins that will be the end of the GOP as we know it. The only one who can save the party is Romney. Ann Coulter speaks for me and countless others. WE will not vote for McCain and many of us will vote for Hillary in protest. I'm ex-military and have never missed a general or primary election and have always voted Republican (Reagan, Jessie Helms et al.)... not this time. McCain will get crushed in November if he is the nominee. The conservative base despises this opportunist/liar and will either stay home or vote in protest for the Democratic nominee. |
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Soothsayer says:
"When Bill Clinton endorses Romney...
THEN you can start making comparisons."
This makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
Let me help you out. When Pat Cadell endorses McCain then we can make comparisons.
Oh right, he already did that.
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If McCain wins then the Congress will go heavily Dem. Turnout will be very low amongst the GOP base, giving a super majority to the Dems. Why the Republican establishment is yearning for a McCain candidacy knowing that this will spell certain doom for the Republicans in Congress is anyone's guess.
OTOH, if Romney (or Thompson or Newt coming out of a brokered convention) is the nominee then look for an energized base and a potential take-back for the GOP in Congress. Remember, the current Congress has the lowest popularity of any in history. That is an opportunity for the GOP. That is unless McCain is nominated in which case look for a Pelosi/Reid regime for the next 8 years.
THIS is why Coulter is so adamant against McCain; she knows what we all know deep down in our hearts. He is a loser with no coat-tails and will destroy not only the party but lose us the Congress for years to come. |
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It's a marathon. There are many surprises ahead. Tuesday will not decide this. Maine went big for Romney. |
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My intuition about Senator McCain is that at this point we owe it to him, and ourselves, to make every attempt to convince him to address all of our questions and concerns regarding him.
Everything from his theories regarding the environment, to taxes, to immigration, to the IslamoFascist conflict, to his bizarre relationship to H.R. Clinton, in particular, the time they ogled each other on the park bench when inebriated on vodka in Estonia, to strict constructionist interpretation of the Constitution. Since he is such a free wheeling personality, he should be able to handle our inquires.
Gordon Liddy remarked that he believes that Senator McCain can be interacted with in a reasonable way and will modify his actions if
he is approached intelligently. I doubt that Mitt Romney would agree. As for me, I will let my anecdote speak for itself, just as, for now, I'll let Ann's little theatre of the absurd speak for itself. |
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For those of us who love Ann, we can only surmise
(and hope) that her outburst is a crie de coeur.
Sometimes an intellectual has to do or say something that is patently absurd in order to shake up an intolerable situation. Women do this in marriages and families; in a way, Ann
is family.
That said, as Cavuto does his segue, let me share with whomever might read this post what it is like to meet John McCain, shake his hand and enter into his formidable eyes. In the campaign of 2006, I worked for Rick Santorum in his W. PA. HQ. McCain appeared at this call center on his own volition to buoy the troops. He began his chat with us by telling a joke about two governors who had been imprisoned and how they liked the food. I don't remember the rest of the joke, but everyone laughed, and, I believe, McCain was the joke's author. Afterwards, he made his way through the room and at a certain moment we intersected.
He came at me with arm outstretched. Our hands collided. I employed my H.J. Heinz piston handshake. He barely took notice of it and ripped my hand around in the air in a burst of martial energy as from the deeps of his orbs two white hot flamelets rotating up from within his being. These white flames covered his corneas for a second and then dissolved revealing pale blue irises. He had a huge jaw and cheek. I saw a massive scar. He has said that he is covered with scars, I believe him.
Senator McCain moved past me to what or whomever he next encountered. I felt that I had been subsumed within his potent energy field. Later, he circled back. In my possession was a copy of Popular Mechanics magazine containing his rebuttal of 9/11 conspiracy theories; also, on the cover was a headline for a major article on extraterrestrial life. He signed the magazine cover; he chuckled as he did this. Also, he signed my Cato Institute copy of the Constitution.
(Part One)
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This is a pro-Fred site, so don't bother if you have other plans...
http://saveamericanow.proboards105.com/index.cgi |
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THEN you can start making comparisons.
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Great seeing your moniker. For a while there, I thought you'd changed your prefix to "Mc" and gone insane...
I agree with many of the wiser posters here today urging perseverence: stop being led around by the nose by a corrupt party and the agenda-driven media. This is far from over. They want you discouraged and defeated. That tactic didn't work on the amnesty bill. Don't let it work now....
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With all of the Reps retiring in Congress, most of whom, I'm afraid, will be replaced by Dems, it seems to me that it doesn't really that any of the candidates pledge to appoint consevative judges. Just think...Mitt...ex-lib....can pledge until he's blue in the face about how he's going to appoint uber conservative judges. A Dem Senate isn't going to be very accomodating. The same goes for McCain - or any of them. Here's the beauty of it, they can send up the uber conservative, who will be rejected, then send in the more moderate one (their true preference) and get them confirmed. The point being - as long as the Senate is Dem, it won't matter. One big exception: The Gang of 14. The Reps will be hailing McCain if this scenario comes to pass. |
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Northeastern state caucus that is rejecting McCain big time.
Hope this is a turning point.
Don't give up hope. |
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McCain will NOT appoint anyone that might rule against McCain Feingold. To believe otherwise is pure stupidity. That means the best we can do is hope for another Sandra Day.
We're supposed to overlook a liberal, lying, opportunist, conservative antagonist so we can get another SANDRA DAY O'FREAKEN CONNER ! ! ! You can drink that kool aide - I"ll pass.
If you think McCain will really appoint a "strict constructionist" and see is signature legislation shot down - you need to smoke something a bit more mild. |
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Honestly I really do not want to get into McCain's relationship with the vets. I'll let the vets speak to that issue. There's plenty things he did during his Senate term that cause me not to support.
As for his military service, hats off to him for serving and fighting in Vietnam. No one will question his patriotism for doing that.
With that said, he's a liberal and he'll never get my vote. Not in the primary and not in the general election. |
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Bill Clinton had an opportunity to nominate one Supreme Court justice. We got Ruth Bader Ginsburg. There may well be three SC vacancies during the next presidential term.
If Hillary or Obama are in the Oval Office (G-d forbid), with a Democratic senate, we can expect three Ginsburgs on the Supreme Court.
Just think about the Stalinist nanny-state we will have in this country with radical justices re-writing our Constitution.
The stakes in this election are too grave for this posturing, perfectionism and "sending a message" (Hint: The last "message" we sent was Nancy Pelosi).
McCain is far from perfect, but just contemplating the damage of four years of a Hillary/Obama presidency should motivate any committed conservative to enthusiastically support McCain.
Just think about it.
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No- I'm not afraid. That's why I read and listen to as much as I have time for. You can disagree with everything John McCain stands for and still not engage in smear. That's the easy route. I'm tempted to go that route at times too. As I said earlier, he's not my guy, but then I'm only a right leaning independent. I'm not in your group. I'm on this blog - to learn a little. What I've learned is that a "mutual admiration society" for conserviative utopians, with a sprinkling of hateful opposition. |
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Dittos Rep. I'm former Corps also and will never support the liar McCain. The man is an opportunist that will say anything to get elected. His October surprise in Florida and sliming of Mitt was despicable. |
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You accuse me of being "afraid" of checking out your pro-McCain propaganda sites and yet you dismiss the site that I linked as a "smear" site. Kettle calling the griddle black?? Maybe you should check out my site and maybe you could learn a little something. |
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I have never voted for a Democrat in my life but that will change if McCain is nominated. I've voted every election for the last 30 years. I will also vote for Hillary. It is a sacrifice that will hopefully lead to victory in 2012. I pray Mitt will defeat the milk toast Republican establishment and RHINO's like Matt Lewis, Steve Hayes, Bill Kristol, Fred Barnes, and their hero John McCain. |
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Thank you for your service. You should vote for whom ever you choose. Sounds to me like you should run for something. I would rather have veterans of all view points a part of our government that a group of pols who don't know what it is like to serve anything. I disagree with you on McCain. I don't agree with him on everything - but some things I do. |
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Sid you do not speak for the Vets I know!
I am a Marine Vet and under no circunstance will I vote for McCain if he is the Republican Presidential candidate!
McCain is a self proclaimed hero. Being a POW for five years does not make one a hero but a survivor. Nor does it give one an unquestionable mandate to be President!
Belonging to a Debating Club for 25 years, the U.S. Senate, does not train one to be a Chief Executive or Commander in Chief.
We need a person of Principles and integrity -- And McCain does meet the Standard.
REP
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Whose boyfriend Andrew Stein is a liberal Democrat operative.
And "she" is laughing at you all. Everytime she says something stupid, you give her money.
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I'm well aware of the smear websites, are you aware of those who admire John McCain? Here's my issue - those who only listen to, watch or read things that support their views. If you are strong in your views, what are you afraid of - learning something. OOPS.
My comment on Michael Regan is just based on history. It is entirely possible he is a self made man and I am just uninformed. And what's with the comment about Nancy. Michael and his dad were estranged for many years so I hardly think he was his confidant. I'm glad they got together but again....Michael Reagan validates your views so that's all that matters.
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are paid McCain bigots. Ignore them-they will go away. |
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I'm impressed with the passion a lot of you bring to this blog. I believe that this discussion is important. The fight to secure a conservative to represent the Republican party doesn't stop with the primaries.
There should not be enough committed delegates to nominate a candidate on the first round.
The conservative delegates that represent Romney, Huckabee, Thompson and others should band together to stave off the McCain candidacy.
We need to identify the delegates and try to persuade them.
We need to do everything possible to prevent Sen McCain from dismantling the Republican party.
Don't give up. Your efforts are not in vain. Regardless of what happens this year, I will be even more determined and committed to get the right conservatives in office in the future. We have the off year election to work toward.
I'm thinking of starting an action committee -
"ConservativePres2012".
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You guys really are desperate arent you? Now you try to discredit Mike Reagan, one of the leading conservative voices of our time? Sorry but I think Mike knew his dad better than your boy McCain, and better than Nancy too for that matter! |
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You dont get to speak for all the vets. Some vets really are opposed to John McCain. Dont believe me? Check out their own website!!!
http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com/ |
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Hillary is still singing the "Comprehensive Immigration Reform" tune (all the Dems, really), not realizing it is her swan song.
The only issue I have ever seen 75-80% of Americans agree on is stopping illegal aliens. Any GOP candidate that is credible on this issue could win in a landslide.
The biggest problem is the RNC has sold it's soul to the cheap labor express. They are determined to nominate an amnesty candidate, even if it means losing the election. Stupid Party, indeed.
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That has been the plan all along. The RNC has been intending to field an amnesty candidate from the time McCain/Kennedy failed. Mel Martinez was RNC chair to ensure it. |
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FYI - Michael Reagan was a raging liberal until is dad obtained power. Then and "wow" moment. A new career - completely based on his father. Is there anything Michael Reagan has done on his own? |
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Instead of relying on hateful website that smear...perhaps you should spend some time away from the blogs and spend time with vets. They don't hate McCain....those that want to smear him do and it has nothing to do with vets. That group exploits vets and uses them as a prop. I should know because my dad was one of them. Quit posting the vile links. McCain is not my choice (mine is not in the race) but I won't go appoleptic if he's the guy. The Republican party has to decide if they are going to be a inclusvie party willing to discuss more that Rush and Anne's stated views or will it become a tiny minority party that will never win an election, consequently, no impact or influence. I don't think talk radio will help much in that situation. |
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McCain's A Liberal!!!!
Why does the GOP want to nominate a guy that does not differentiate himself from democrats? Why in the world would a "conservative" party put up a guy that writes legislation with Kennedy, Edwards, Feingold? What happened to having a real choice in the political process? Is the GOP's strategy now to court liberals and moderates? Really? While I know that most liberals and moderates will go gah gah over McCain's position for higher taxes, limitations on free speech, and amnesty for the millions of illegal aliens in this country (instant new democrat voters), will they really support a guy that claims to be so pro war? The liberals will vote for the most liberal candidates (Obama or Clinton) and the conservatives will stay home because we dont see a difference between a McCain Presidency and a Hillary Presidency with the exception that a Hillary Presidency might galvanize the conservative base once again.
The only way the Republicans can win the general election is to energize the base and the only candidate left that will energize the base is Mitt Romney!!! |
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"Just gotta say
I love seeing you people eat your own! =)"
Ah, but you're mistaken: McCain has never been conservative's "own."
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You are on the wrong side of this Ann Coulter issue. Ann is dead on. Voting for McCain is worse because it sends the message that we endorse his left-leaning ideas. If we don't stand firm, the GOP has no reason to return to its ideological conservative roots. Either we take a stand or we move left along with the party and give tacit approval of the march toward liberalism.
Every time we vote for a bad GOP candidate, those politicians living in their cozy Washington insiders' cocoon smile at each other and say, "See the people really love us." They convince themselves that conservatives are a small minority who really don't represent the party. Is that the message you want to send?
Obviously, the lessons of 2006 were lost on the national party, and a vote for McCain further signals that we are A-OK with the abandonment of conservatism.
Our only chance now is Romney because he knows he needs the conservative base. If he can't win the day, then we should sit November out and let the party remember why they need us. Remember the old adage... absence makes the heart grow fonder. |
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According to McCain, I have the divine right to weigh in because I am also a vet. (Army)
To many of us vets, McCain's dishonorable and cowardly, treasonous conduct, is disgusting and only trumped by his declaring himself a hero and capitalizing off of that treason. This is a sickening spectacle.
I am just one more vet and evangelical for Mitt. If the American populace is so smitten with the liberal, lying, treasonous, McCain...I can see why some will be voting Hillary in November. And I'm sure if the MIA's returned that McCain saw fit to halt the search for, they would vote Mitt too. As far as Reagan, his own son backs Romney. BTW-"Most information in the public record detailing McCain's experience with the North Vietnamese during this time frame came from McCain and McCain only." (Taken from Vietnam Vets against McCain) |
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Will it get any media coverage since it goes contrary to the McCain's on a role script? |
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I may not vote for the Democrat nominee but I will not vote for the Democrat-lite nominee either. McCain has shown contempt for conservatives. These politicians who are only now endorsing him show themselves as being more interested in their own interests than conservatism or the nation's interests. In Texas, we are losing our American culture, borders and language. Our hospital ERs service illegals without limit. Our schools educate children of illegals without limit. Wages are suppressed by illegal labor, promoted by local governments and chambers of commerce. We are slowly being invaded and conquered and politicians don't care as long as they can win favor with the new arrivals. We can't even get the politicians to require identification when voting. Keep in mind, if McCain is the GOP nominee, the issue of illegal immigration will be neutralized as an election issue when it should be a defining issue. |
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That whole Bill and Hillary pulling out the race card against Obama is really working out well for you guys isn't it. I'm laughing at the Dems having themselves for lunch these days.
Oh, and by the way, McCain is not one of our own. |
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The issue is not whether McCain will or will not win the election in November, it's whether the GOP will survive his catastrophic defeat. |
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...everyone else figured out her gig long ago. No worries, she won't change anyone's vote. |
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You wrote, "So, despite my loathing for McCain and my intention not to vote for him in the general, there is actually ONE circumstance under which I would actually vote for him. If he selects a conservative (Hunter, Thompson, Watts, Haley Barbour, etc.) running mate I could hold my nose and then hope he conforms to historical precedent somewhere along in his first year in office."
I couldn't even do it in those circumstances. The VP really has little effect on policy decisions, and McCain is such a meglomaniac that he won't listen to anyone anyway. He won't get my vote under any circumstances. |
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Huck is now claiming that Hannity endorsed Mitt because Sean works for Bain Capital, which Huckabee says owns Sean's network — Clear Channel.
Mark Levin points out over at the Corner that this is completely incorrect and further example of Huckabee's penchant for running off at the mouth about stuff he knows nothing about. It also brands him as a kook conspiracy theorist.
I'm beginning to think that Ron Paul is the more balanced of the two. |
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"Harry Oz, here is some history
Mitt has lost IA, NH, SC and FL. The voters do not want him as a nominee or president. Also, talk radio has been attacking Mc since last summer (I too was mad about that immigration bill) and when he struggled with fund raising in summer, they wrote him off. Now what history do you want me to remember. FYI - all the time Mitt was loosing we were listening to you and Hugh saying "Romney Rising", "Romney is ahead in polls", "Romney will win". At some point, even you have to admit, Mitt is loosing and talk radio has not helped him. In fact, Mc does not want talk radio to support him considering how well that has worked for Mitt."
Most of talk radio didn't step up to endorse Romney until this week, so how can you say that talk radio didn't "help" him. Also, McCain has yet to win any conservatives in ANY state. Even if Florida, he only won the Republican vote because Independents registered Republican and voted.
Here's what's happening in a nutshell: Conservatives have been screwed over by so-called "moderates" and establishment Republicans into getting a liberal candidate as the GOP candidate. But the last laugh will be on Mr. Straight Talk and his pandering cronies: He'll lose because many, many conservatives will not vote for him. Ann is echoing the sentiments of many of us. So, all you McCain supporters, don't get too excited about him winning the general election. It ain't gonna happen. |
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I love seeing you people eat your own! =) |
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Why isn't anyone talking about the years that Sen McCain was tortured in Viet Nam. Do you have any idea the toll that takes on ones body, mind & spirit? At the very least, it accelerates the aging process.
Do we want an angry President that may snap under pressure. How many of our returning vets have psychological problems without being tortured.
Sen McCain is a hero, but he is unfit for the Presidency. We have no idea what horrible experiences that he went through. He was trained to block a lot out of his mind. But, it doesn't go away, it just gets stored and can and will resurface. Regardless of your opinion of John,
I can't in good conscience vote for someone that will be facing constant pressure assuming awesome responsibility in a body & mind that is conservatively in his 80's by now.
We had better make some important decisions at the convention because a McCain nominee will bring about a Hillary/Obama Presidency.
I will not vote for Sen McCain and I have voted Republican in every election since 1968.
I will not go as far as Ann Coulter and vote for Hillary. I will vote for a write-in candidate, and start working immediately for a more conservative president in 2012.
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McCains actions as a POW are nothing to be humbles by. Vietnam Vets despise him. He spent most of those 5 yrs in the Hanoi Hilton Hotel. That is documented. Other POW's have stated they don't believe he was tortured. He 'cracked' and gave sensitive intel after 4 days, not years. He told the Vietnamese he would give intel if they took him to the hospital to get his crash injuries treated. McCain gave up intel that cost the lives of 60% of our fly boys. All of this is documented. He also stopped the investigation of looking into POW's and MIA's. Why would he do that? He didn't make (1) tape, he made (32) tapes bashing America. He asked the Vietnamese to conceal his records and they complied, as did the U.S. He's no hero.
http://www.usvetdsp.com/mcianhro.htm
http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com/cin_hopper_ video.htm
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Sarah made this clearly incorrect statement earlier: "Everyone who votes for Mc in the primaries will also do so in the general."
This is demonstrably untrue. There have been cross-over votes like crazy so far by libs for McCain. If you think these people will vote for McCain in the general you're delusional Sarah.
This relates to a question from BorderBill regarding Florida. Florida has a closed primary just as I said. Bill's stats are correct about Indies and Dems voting in the primary for McCain but one DOES have to be registered as a Republican or Dem to vote in the FL primary.
Now, the reality is that a Dem or an independent can register as a Republican up to 29 days before an election and yet still might self-identify as an independent or a Dem in exit polls.
Of course, there might also have been some voter fraud as well as surmised in this blog column over at SuitablyFlip entitled "Was Florida a Closed Primary Or Not?"
http://www.suitablyflip.com/suitably_flip/2008/01/was-flori da-a-c.html
Bottom line, one could argue that even though Florida was a closed primary, it still was not a reflection of Republican preferences given that there were either voting irregularities or Dems and Indies skewed the results by re-registering as Republicans. |
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Why isn't anyone talking about the years that Sen McCain was tortured in Viet Nam. Do you have any idea the toll that takes on ones body, mind & spirit? At the very least, it accelerates the aging process.
Do we want an angry President that may snap under pressure. How many of our returning vets have psychological problems without being tortured.
Sen McCain is a hero, but he is unfit for the Presidency. We have no idea what horrible experiences that he went through. He was trained to block a lot out of his mind. But, it doesn't go away, it just gets stored and can and will resurface. Regardless of your opinion of John,
I can't in good conscience vote for someone that will be facing constant pressure assuming awesome responsibility in a body & mind that is conservatively in his 80's by now.
We had better make some important decisions at the convention because a McCain nominee will bring about a Hillary/Obama Presidency.
I will not vote for Sen McCain and I have voted Republican in every election since 1968.
I will not go as far as Ann Coulter and vote for Hillary. I will vote for a write-in candidate, and start working immediately for a conservative president in 2012.
Dan
Canton, MI
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I, for instance, liked Huckabee after the Iowa straw poll until I examined his record. Many of you are, in few days of bandwagonism, thinking of voting for McCain. Coulter thought of voting for Clinton. Santa considered a dogsled... and that guy wondering around asking "can you hear me now" hasnt realized that his battery is dead. |
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This is political correctness gone beserk. He should do like Ron Paul and tell the people hollering for a denunciation to p*ss off. It is this sort of nonsense that shows just how far to the left the Republcian party has gone under the influence of the neocons. Coulter is a private citizen with no connection to Romney's campaign and her words are her own.
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Please do NOT stay home. You must vote. You do not have to vote for Hillybama or McAmnesty. There are always other parties and people on the ballot. You could write in Joe Oliva. The important votes are for House and Senate seats. Conservatives MUST win seats in the House. The House is where things get done. It was the passage of H.R. 4437, an enforcement bill, in Dec.05 that sparked the illegal alien protest marches and moved this issue to the front burner. It was the Senate that tried to jam amnesty down our throats. The D's that won seats in '06 were conservatives running on enforcement platforms. One of them, Heath Shuler D-NC, introduced the SAVE Act. Call, e-mail, or write your Congressman and urge support of this legislation. Enforcement is what Americans want, not amnesty.
Amnesty is a losing proposition.
I don't think Hillary is stupid enough to step in front of this bus. McCain is.
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I would never vote for Hillary. But as a conservative I cannot and will not ever vote for McCain either. |
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If McCain gets the GOP nomination, this will be one for the history books. Never have two senators run against each other in the general election.
If either of the nominees makes it through their first term, again, they will be making history. No sitting senator has ever been elected to the White House and survived their first term. I don't say this next sentence lightly but it is very likely that McCain will not survive his first term (not because of the aforementioned history but because the guy is OLD and seems determined to die of a brain siezure).
So, despite my loathing for McCain and my intention not to vote for him in the general, there is actually ONE circumstance under which I would actually vote for him. If he selects a conservative (Hunter, Thompson, Watts, Haley Barbour, etc.) running mate I could hold my nose and then hope he conforms to historical precedent somewhere along in his first year in office.
There I said, it.
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Any conservative who believes it is better to vote for a McCain than for Hillary or Obama really needs to rethink what it is that they believe in. Are you a conservative who will sell out his principles or just a bobblehead who will vote for a Republican even if that candidate is just a more deceitful version of the Democratic choice? Conservatives are like most Americans, when presented with a choice to vote for a Democrat or a democrat, they always vote for the real thing: the Democrat. It's all about what you mean as "what you believe in". I didn't become a Republican to vote for a liberal democrat with an "R" stamped on his forehead. A liberal is a liberal is a liberal. If the GOP wants to survive, it needs to rediscover the principles that brought it the success over the years. Otherwise, shut up and take your punishment. |
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Did you see that Maine went for Romney today? This is after McCain won Florida and had all those lame endorsements.
Interesting, because it goes against the MSM story that McCain can't be stopped.
Stay tuned. |
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You need to do your research and understand why Coulter said what she said and get up to speed.
cresen7 had a great post a few posts up that might help you understand what is going on here. |
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I used to like her a lot and have defended her in the past, but she just seems like she tries to come up with the most absurd things to say. Any so-called conservative that would vote for Hillary or Obama over McCain really needs to rethink what it is that they believe in. |
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Please do NOT stay home. You must vote. You do not have to vote for Hillybama or McAmnesty. There are always other parties and people on the ballot. You could write in Joe Oliva. The important votes are for House and Senate seats. Conservatives MUST win seats in the House. The House is where things get done. It was the passage of H.R. 4437, an enforcement bill, in Dec.05 that sparked the illegal alien protest marches and moved this issue to the front burner. It was the Senate that tried to jam amnesty down our throats. The D's that won seats in '06 were conservatives running on enforcement platforms. One of them, Heath Shuler D-NC, introduced the SAVE Act. Call, e-mail, or write your Congressman and urge support of this legislation. Enforcement is what Americans want, not amnesty.
Amnesty is a loser.
I don't think Hillary is stupid enough to step in front of this bus. McCain is.
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Go home Shannon. http://www.dailykos.com |
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"Bigotry is a two way street" ???
"and as americans" (why small a??)
"we have the right to associate and the right to use religion as a factor when voting"
FacistTroll Go AWAY!!
Take Your Two-Way Street On Out Of Here.
Seathing Hatred Like Yours
Is Not Healthy. Not For You,
Or Those Exposed To You.
And Take The Rest Of
The Hucksters/McCainiacs
With You Please.
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I would rather vote for the guy who has come around to my point of view than the guy who is still giving me the finger. |
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Ann Coulter is snide and irresponsible with her remarks. Her only purpose seems to be to stir the pot and sell some books.
I wish someone would knock that soapbox out from under her. And for goodness sake, give that skinny girl a sandwich or something. |
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Talk radio is under attack from McCain supporters... you know, the libs who hate free speech. When anyone comes out against our greatest weapon talk radio, they expose themselves as a person who wants to push the party left.
The left suck and so does anyone who thinks like a lib. |
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Sarah is an embarassingly ill informed bigot . . .
And my latest blog post explains in detail why McCain would be worse than Hillary or Obama. I wrote it before Coulter spoke also. In general,:
With a Dem we can oppose the liberal agenda with a unified, even if minority, Congress. This will encourage, rather than marginalize conservatism.
Hill won't close Gitmo.
Iraq is going to be the same either way. 18 months from now we're going to have 50,000 troops there. If a Republicans in - they'll call it staying; if a Dem is in they'll call it leaving.
McCain will NOT appoint anyone that might rule against McCain Feingold. To believe otherwise is pure stupidity. That means the best we can do is hope for another Sandra Day. Republicans cannot really oppose his nominees either.
McCain wins means a bad off year congressional election.
We also get a 76 yr old drooling fool to run again in 2012.
Conservatism will go into exile before until at least 2014.
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"If you though Abu Grahb was not just "boys being boys"
Rush made the point that Abu Grahb was not some place where people were getting their eyes cut out or their head taken off. It was a place where some idiots were playing games with the prisoners by putting them in embarrasing positions. Not good... but not torture either.
They all went to jail, so you should be happy. I am.
Rush was right... next time listen to the entire point instead of talking quotes from Media Matters, the lib smar site. |
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Let me get this straight.... you know... straight talk express and all..
Coulter is a disgrace.... but McCain is a great conservative Republican?
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during the past year or so. It sure looks to me that the establishment that has been trying to influence our thinking is finally getting a case of the yips as they see people like Rush, Ann and Sean finally relenting to what many of us have been signalling for a long time: we are really mad as hell this time and this is it. Get it right or prepare to be eliminated. We conservatives represent about 30-33% of registered voters and still control Congress. We can start our own party and be the biggest party. It may just be that time has come. Are you listening Mitt? Don't make us vote Ron Paul! As angry and determined as we are, he just might win. |
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"I respectfully allow the mormons to exercise..."
I must say I am pleased to know that. We all know those Mormons need the exercise. just look at the paunch Mitt has developed during this campaign!
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Sarah's been coming here for many months and painting Romney as unfit for duty because of his faith. Let it go Sarah. God loves us all.
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These so called pundits like Hugh and Ann Cotler have such huge egos, it's unbeleivable. She actually thinks threating to vote for Hillary means anything. Hey, thats one extra vote for her, just like everybody else. What a pompous gas-bag.
Be gone already.
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Just because you are a dupe who can't think for himself and has to resort to cutting and pasting and providing links to your liberal friends, it doesn't follow that Ann has this mysterious power over conservatives. Where has she been the past year? Many of us have been saying the same thing here for over a year. The end is near for you RINOs and you just can't accept that it is actually happening. I hope you enjoy TH once your own friends tell you "enough with the cut and past jobs already!". |
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Responding to a troll will not get him or her to change positions. It just gives the troll another excuse to post more derogatory, incendiary remarks.
(And have you ever asked yourself what some of these people do for a job? How do they have time to post dozens of comments on every Town Hall article and blog? Could they be professional bloggers supported by George Soros? Not saying they are. They could just be crazy Mormon haters.)
Ignore trolls. It's easy. And it's simply good etiquette! |
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Now the new definition of liberal. If you like Ann Coulter or not. What next. If you though Abu Grahb was not just "boys being boys" (My favorite Rush comment of all time) you are a liberal. How about, if you don't believe in creationism, you are a liberal (The Huckabee conservative) I have a feeling that the Republican party is now 95% liberal. |
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Why should we ignore the trolls? For one thing, they are often DNC or moveon.org operatives, posing as hate mongering, bigoted Republicans. |
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The reaon the other talk radio people condemn Ann including Hugh is clear. She gets McCain more votes. Politics is all about identity, and even though some people on this site love Coulter, I have a feeling a good number despise her and make those feelings well known to Hugh, Rush etc. Eventually she will come out and call for McCain to be assasinated or call him derogatory names, and than you will all run. It has happenened before. It will happen again.
McCain would love for Ann to show up at all his meetings to protest. It would be a great campaign road show. Ahe beats out Rosie O'Donnel.
Romney is smart just to keep his mouth shout on this one. He knows as well as anyone. You can live by talk radio and you can die by talk radio. |
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Coulter makes her points well about liberals. It's why the libs hate her so much. She is super effective because everything she says is based in rock solid truth...even if is over the top. Shock value is what she does best. It also gets people talking... as we see here.
"Conservative " people who hate Coulter may as well have a sign on their forehead that says " I am a liberal but am afraid to admit it " |
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Your argument at its very foundation implies that a Mormon cannot associate with the American people as their President.
The Founding Fathers were hoping to establish a system of government were everyone could have an equal chance of participating in government, regardless of their religion (or even lack thereof).
John Adams spoke of America's new "aristocracy of talent." In other words, it was to be our abilities and not our creeds that determined our opportunities to serve in government. We had escaped Creedism when we broke from England.
Your position very clearly states that everyone should have a chance to participate in Government, except those whose faith differs from your own.
By your logic, Mormons should not hold positions in government at any level--city council, mayor, governor, state legislator, etc. Your position logically leads to disenfranchisement of Mormons (or other non-evangelical faiths) from the processes of government, including voting.
Don't try to kid me Sarah. You're not arguing for freedom of association. |
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This is what happens when a not so compatible "coalition" composed fiscal conservatives, social conservatives, and national security come together. They formed, not because they had a broad commonality; they formed in quest of and the subsequent need for power. They had 12 yrs of it with Reagan and Bush 1 but then came Clinton. They had to stay together because they were spoiled and wanted power back. They got it with Bush II. Here's the problem: early on they were willing to settle for little bits and pieces of their agenda. Conservative talk radio has marketed this coalition and made a substantial amount of money doing it --pushing a conservative utopia...not much different than the utopia pushed by the left. Neither one achievable. They have been successful because they recognized this as a product first - for profit. The "coalition" is no longer willing to settle for less than everything and that is simply not possible. The marketers are a little fearful that their product is on the verge of being obsolete. As a right leaning independent, I find it sad that they put the product ahead of what is in the best interest of the country. McCain doesn't give a rip about the product; he does give a rip about his country. It's a difficult less traveled road. Ann Coulter does not travel the road less traveled; only the road her marketing plan puts her on. |
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Sarah you truly are a bigot. This country was founded on freedom of religion, but post after post you condemn Mitt based on the fact he is member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. Amazing, I'll bet you would vote for Obama, with his Muslim background, a religion that doesn't believe in Christ as our Saviour over Mitt, the Mormon. Get over yourself and look at the candidate. Mitt isn't Reagan but he is better than any other GOP candidate. Funny how JFK had to give a speech about his faith when people were bigots against Catholics. I guess you were born a couple years too late for that bigotry to set in. |
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I'm sure we'll be fine. The world won't come to an end. I'm not so sure those whose careers depend on proving their loyalty to the GOP can say the same. Is TH going to accommodate the GOP and morph into a liberal website? This will be a very boring place were we conservatives to take the show elsewhere. And Red State isn't it either. |
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doctor and president have the same impact on america's future, you are dillusional! We only get to pick one president - only one! I can change doctors get a second opinion or even buy a new car if the mechanic messes it up. The impact and implication of having a mormon in the whitehouse are far reaching domestically and globally. A risk not worth taking. Mitt is also not qualified to be commander in chief another good reason to reject romney. |
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Is mentally impaired and deranged. You are such dupes. Ann Coulter's Democrat operative boyfriend and her are laughing all the way to the bank. She takes your money and laughs and laughs. How stupid can you be?
Don't you know when you are being played? Ann Coulter does not represent the party of Ronald Reagan. She is a joke and so are the rest of you following her.
If Mitt Romney was smart, he would denounce Ann Coulter. |
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I'll vote for the Devil himself before I'll vote for McCain. I'll actively oppose him by voting for any liberal. There's no difference between Captain Queeg (McCain) and a liberal, but at least I can punish the Stupid Wing of the GOP by helping elect a Democrat. Don't mention he was a war hero - so was Benedict Arnold. He won't be able to beat Hillary or Obama by endlessly mumbling "I'm a leader, I led a squadron, I was a POW my friends." Ask him any question and you'll get the same answer. He's a dork, and a belligerant old dork to boot! |
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I get many do not like or trust McCain. I respect that--McCain deserves a good horse whipping at CPAC for some of his positions in the past. I don't like some of McCain's positions either, but Mitt Romney is the better candidate in the election? Where does that come from, listening to Hugh Hewitt? Mitt has had essentially every opportunity, outspent his competition 10:1, and has still lost the GOP primaries to McCain. What makes them think Romney would do better with independents and x-over democrats which he absolutely needs to win the general? Mitt can barely get decent numbers with Republicans (and still loses to McCain). Do a little research on state by state electoral college numbers, McCain can put blue states like Pennsylvania, Maryland and others in play. McCain wins purple states like New Mexico. Romney will not win those blue and purple states and puts red states like Virginia at risk.
McCain has a compelling story and career (frankly a lot more compelling than Bob Dole's). I respect Romney is a successful business and family man, but I want a president with brass balls. We are at war. Sometimes even Hillary has more of that mojo quality than Romney (and I definitely do not want Hillary as president).
What makes McCain scary to conservatives, makes him electable in the general. Hence the reason some conservatives are freaking out. Focus on Phil Gramm, Jack Kemp, Tom Coburn, and Ted Olson, and for that matter Rudy, and Fred (maybe even Mitt) who will be there to advise and counsel McCain. McCain may not be perfect, but he can win the general and will be a far better president (for conservatives) than Hillary and Obama. Mitt Romney will lose.
P.S.-- Ann Coulter is a disgrace. She should be denounced by all conservatives. Her crazy self promotion does not help the conservative movement at all. Here she is confirming (again) she will vote for Hillary or Obama over McCain. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erMa0F_DCJE
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Read previous blogs. Mitt's religion is an issue but even if a voter assumes remaining true to the faith of his father has no impact on his presidency (and I doubt it) then his record is liberal. Either way, americans are not willing to take that risk, he is untrustworthy and unpredictable. He is however a good businessman and we wish him well in the businessworld. |
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Let me remind everyone that proper etiquette on the Web is to ignore the inflammatory, hate mongering trolls. |
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A person would be hard pressed to find any major difference between Clinton and McCain on major issues other than the Iraq war.
McCain is good at obfuscating his positions now that he needs Conservative votes. But look at his record! McCain has always partnered with Liberal Senators and the Liberal media.
McCain is the Epitome of what we no longer need in Washington -- Demagogue, Pathological Liar, a Megalomaniac, Wheeler Dealer, a Benedict Arnold, etc,etc.
How many times do Conservative have to be stabbed in the back before they get the message?
I was a Democrat for a short time but Lydon Johnson cured me of that disease. McCain as the Republican Presidential Candidate will cure me of being a Republican.
McCain has done everything he can, with help from Bush, to destroy the Conservative element of the Republican Party.
We already have one Liberal Democrat Party. We do not need another!
Ann is right! I will not vote for McCain under any circunstance.
I will not sell out my Principles -- which are and have always been Conservative.
We need a President with Character and intergrity!
Support and vote for Mitt Romney -- our only hope at this stage!
REP
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Yes, I can only wish that we had a GOP candidate that was as solid a conservative as some of the people I see on this thread. To those who can see the "sell outs" , illegal alien appologists, and uninformed sheep for what they are, I applaud you. I will not give up hoping for Romney or a solid conservative candidate to win in November. If juan mac or shillary are elected we are in some serious trouble I firmly believe. |
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right to associate. If a mormon wants to vote for Mitt because he is mormon then fine. If an american wants to vote against Mitt because he is a mormon then that is fine. What I find disturbing is the soapbox righteous mentality of the mormon-bigots who are quick to call us bigots without acknowledging their own bigotry. If we respect each other's choices then we can co-exist. Remember the name calling (and you can check the past blogs) started when Mitt supporters insulted evangelicals who gave Huck the rise in polls in IA and then gave him the win. The honest republican voters were called "stupid evangelicals" and Huck was called a "pastor in chief". These assaults did not end after IA (normally people get upset when their candidate looses and they say some things but when the votes are counted we move on) BUT Mitt supporters and mormons continued the insults toward evangelicals who supported Huck in SC and in FL. This is why I am arguing mormon-bigotry exists and it is equal to anti-mormonism and to some extent feeds into anti-mormonism. I had never blogged before december when these assaults started and as soon as Mitt looses and gets out of the race on Wednesday I will stop blogging. |
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I won't vote for either one but Ann makes one think about how very wrong McCain is for America.
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You fit in much better there. This is a site for conservatives. I have tried to reason with you but your a class warfare, " evil rich ", "the goverenment owes me" liberal. |
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The brain dead voters who were going to vote for McCain must be wondering why the radical right winger Ann Coulter hates McCain enough to vote for Hillary.
They might do the unthinkable.... these voters might look at McCains record and see what an a-hole he has been to the conservative movement. |
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Many of us have been saying the same thing for more than a year. You TH guys are even further behind the conservative than Ann is. This is it for the GOP. Get it right or move over for a second party. I think there will be a sunami of surprises for the bobbleheads by next the end of next week should McCain win on Tuesday. You guys SAY things like McCain would be a disaster and a Clinton presidency is dangerous for the country but... It may be the end of the road for the GOP very soon. If TH has hitched its fortunes to that wagon, it will soon be the end of TH too as it becomes a watering hole for few RINOs left to gather and commiserate. We conservatives have better things to do than waste our time with whiney losers. |
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"Bravado, voting for Mitt because he is mormon is mormon-bigotry."
Thus, voting for Huckabee because he is an evangelical is evangelical-bigotry, and voting for JFK would have been catholic-bigotry.
You say you cannot vote for Romney because of his Mormonism. Therefore, even if Mitt Romney were the perfect replica of Ronald Reagan, you still would not vote for him simply because of his religion. Thus you support Huckabee because of his evangelicalism. That makes you, according to your own words, a bigot.
It sounds like it is you that needs to get off your high horse. |
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Two points to you:
1) There has not yet been a true closed primary, not sure where you are getting that information. 17% of the votes in the Florida Republican primary were from self declared Independents and 3% were from Democrats. McCain got 144,000 votes from Independents (No info on the Democrats) in Florida.
2) Do you suppose Sarah would go to a Mormon doctor if that doctor were qualified? I bet you she would and has without knowing. She's probably had work done on her car by a Mormon too, and she's probably paid Mormon's lot's of money for all kinds of other services as well not realizing or even bothering to ask if they were Mormon. Why? Because she wanted someone who could get the job done and being a Mormon had nothing to do with it.
So why is she different for the Presidency? Because she is bigoted. |
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in the primary but not in the general? or are you arguing that a republican can be nominated without the base? Everyone who votes for Mc in the primaries will also do so in the general. In 10 months we will know so lets wait and see. |
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Sarah, I acknowledge bigotry in everyone at some level--even in myself. The difference is, I don't glory in it and I try to overcome it.
Your argument says that I should support Huckabee simply out of non-bigotry. That's a ridiculous position to take.
You seem to be looking for an excuse to vote against Mitt Romney simply because of his faith. You also seem to be proud of your anti-Mormonism.
Can you name for me one thing about the Mormon faith that you would consider dangerous to America or its Constitution?
If you're willing, I challenge you to read the official LDS doctrine on Government, at http://www.section134.com/section-134/
Then tell me what part of that doctrine is contrary to either Conservatism or any of our Constitutional principles. I'm waiting... |
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Except for possibly one thing. Iran, and nuclear weapons. This is McCain's ace. He knows when it comes down to it, many people will support him for this singular reason. And it just may be the right thing to do.
I haven't decided yet if I will ever vote for McCain. I'm still holding out hope for conservatives to come to their senses.
Go Romney! We need you. Perhaps you were sent for such a time as this. |
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McCain almost came undone like Catian Queeg in the last debate. Harry OZ is right the press torpedo Romney so the "Change" mantra will belong soley to the dems. They will murder McCain in the general. He has no money. For him to call Romney a flip flopper then drape himself in Reagan's image is the biggest irony of all and abuse of Reagns' legacy. Governor Reagan signed into California law the biggest on demand bill the state ever saw and put in the biggest tax increase it ever saw.
What would you call that BS answer McCain about whether he would sign his own amnesty bill if president? Can anyone say Flip flopper? |
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