Wednesday, November 07, 2007
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Does Mike Huckabee think Pat Robertson is Intoxicated?
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Posted by:
Jonathan Garthwaite at
10:20 AM
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Matt just reported the Pat Robertson/Giuliani endorsement which reminds me...
In October, Religion & Ethics asked Mike Huckabee why religious conservative hadn't rallied around (read: endorsed) his campaign.
A: I think that in some ways the Christian conservative movement has maybe gotten off the track. I think that some of them, frankly, are more intoxicated with power than principle, and I know that's a pretty outrageous if not rather bold statement to make, but I think it's the truth. Some have become so acquainted now with power and have been so close to it that they forget that the purpose for which they got involved in politics was not to be close to power; it was to speak the truth to power. It was to hold those in power, to hold their feet to the fire over issues they said got them involved and motivated. Now I hear some of the so-called Christian leaders say, "Well, we love Huckabee. He really agrees with us, and he's one of us in terms of views. But, you know, we're looking for somebody that we're confident is going to win." Well, two things. First, a lot of these people if they would get behind me I'd be winning right now, and I think I will ultimately without them. But secondly, if they really are principled, it's not about who might win, it's about who stands with us. And, frankly, it's a little disturbing, if not frightening, that some have forgotten the essence of what Jesus taught, and that is if you gain the whole world but lose your soul what does it profit you? And, frankly, some who would say, "Well, the presidency is so important." You know, well, so what? The presidency is not as important as are your values and as are your deep principles from the heart. And I worry about people who have come to this sort of "it's about winning." No. It's about standing for your convictions. And if it's not about that, then I'm afraid that many people got involved for all the wrong reasons.
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what u guys said are reasonable…
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I hope he doesn't own the lies, and only believes them because people he trusts have told them to him. But now, as I will correct you, if you repeat them anymore you will own them.
LDS Church doctrine does not teach, nor do Mormons as a group believe, that God the Father had physical sex with Mary. We believe in the virgin birth. You see, we believe in an all-powerful God for whom such a thing is possible. That is, actually being the Father, and begetting Jesus Christ his son in the flesh, and not having physical contact, and having Mary remain a virgin.
The first time in my 46 years I ever heard that idea repeated was by a non-Mormon on Townhall.com I believe; and I grew up in the LDS church. So Synthesizer, you have been educated on this point. Repeat it again as a liar.
As for Satan being the brother of Jesus. We believe Jesus is the only begotten in the flesh, and that all other spirits created by God are his children, including Satan and his followers who will not inherit physical bodies. Therefore, in that sense, Jesus Christ is the elder brother of all other spirit children of God.
As usual, half educated people seem happy to repeat the half truths and lies taught them by those who should know better. |
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[PC on November 7, 2007]"What issues are you talking about for Romney with Christian conservatives?"
6 November 2007 Janet Folger
To anti-Huck rock throwers
http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58524
Gov. Mitt Romney: Beyond his abysmal judicial appointments (including naming homosexual activists to the courts even AFTER his conversion on every major issue), he's wrong on something even more basic: the Apostle's Creed. The creed all Christians believe states: "I believe "… in Jesus Christ, His only Son, our Lord: Who was conceived of the Holy Spirit, born of the Virgin Mary …" Romney, as a Mormon, doesn't believe Jesus was God's only Son (Lucifer, they claim, was his "brother"). Nor does he believe in the virgin birth. Instead, Mormons believe God the Father had physical sex with Mary. The word blasphemy comes to mind. A bit more than a mere "denominational difference," don't you think?
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[religiouslib on November 7, 2007]"as a Christian liberal i would vote for huckabee over hillary.
but would not do so for any other republican."
2 November 2007
Hearting Huckabee...
by Bob Moser
http://www.thenation.com/blogs/campaignmatters?pid=248013
OK. I have to admit it. It's time for me, like many other reporters who ought to know better, to look myself straight in the face and ask: Are you crushing on Mike Huckabee?
"why republicans don't see that huckabee could grab the moderates and independents is beyond me."
Maybe Republicans have bought the MSM coverage saying that Rudy and Mitt are most likely to give Mrs. Clinton a run for her money.
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is increasingly irrelevant. Most social conservatives I know can't stand the guy, think he's hurtful to their message already, quick to say stupid things...and besides he only gets one vote - his. |
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Huckabee's amnesty friendliness gives me great pause. Your man Hunter is far ahead of Huckabee in that respect. |
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He has a history of being very pro-illegal aliens and open borders.
In this interview, Huckabee talks about standing up for principles. In practice, however, he seems to be okay with breaking the law (at least when it comes to illegal aliens). |
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I am totally with you on that. I intend to vote for the Republican nominee regardless of who it is. However, in the primaries, though I am routing for my guy Romney, I have respect for those who hold out for their candidates based on their well thought out convictions and strategy. Naturally, I would want every Republican to go Mitt's way, but I don't think fear should be the primary motivating factor behind their vote. Work it out in your mind and heart and make a calm decision, I would say. |
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HUCK is stronger on conservative issues. He is and always has been pro-life; his is and always has been pro-marriage.
He was Governor when taxes were raised in Arkansas. So. Take a look at the FACTS surrounding the issue and I would hope that you would consider the political, economic, and social realties of the decision.
Why is his effort relative to the fair "lame"? I assume you support the concept - so what is your point?
As for Open Borders - I don't know that I would go so far as to say that. I do not agree with his opinion on scholarships for children of illegals. That we can debate with the Governor and his staff.
As for caving to the liberals. I put it to you that on the key issues the Governor has not compromised. Further, he starts from a position far the "right" from his counterparts and is more likely to remain steadfast in his position.
Guliani and Romney are both good choices - do not misunderstand my position. However, there are a number of Christian Conservatives that will not vote for them - even if it means Hitler would get elected.
A ticket that includes any of these three will decimate Hitlery and anyone else. |
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Huck is not stronger than the others on conservative issues. As governor he raised taxes. P E R I O D. There's no hiding it, even with his lame fair tax attempt. He is for more government regulation. His pardons and commutations are also a problem. He is OPEN BORDERS. He can't hide his record on that, either.
Many liberals are speaking highly of him right now because they're bored and want to shake up the race, and because Huck is a weak candidate. He was rejected by conservatives early on in the race for a reason.
Huckabee seems the most likely to cave to liberals in Washington.
What issues are you talking about for Romney with Christian conservatives? |
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While Mr. Robertson may think he is supporting a man who can win. He has abdicated hos so-called faith.
As a serious-minded practicing believer in Jesus, to see Mr. Robertson support a man that has made no attempts to undo some serious personal and political issues in light of the scriptures is repugnant!
Power corrupts and people who yearn for it, without principle, will do anything to get it. Even endorse an unbeliever. |
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The Republicans have three solid candidates - maybe four. In no particular order: Huckabee, Romney, and Guliani. They each have their strengths and, perhaps, weaknesses.
In my mind, the best candidate is Huckabee. Why? He more than the others has the ability to win liberals and moderates. A quick scan of national pundits continually reveals that many liberals speak highly of the Governor. Huckabee is strong on the conservative issues, much stronger than any other candidate. His recommendations relative to the Fair Tax concept are solid. Yet, he promotes environmental responsibility.
Guiliani and Romney have too many issues with Christian Conservatives and the Republican party risks losing to Hitlery if we don't wisen up. Many claim that supporting one of these two is the practical thing to do. Quite to the contrary, supporting Gov. Huckabee is the most practical and conscientious thing to do. |
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I would not sell my principles. That is what leaders like Robertson are doing. Frankly, if they are willing to sell them so cheaply for such a gamble for such a short period, they must not have held them very dear to begin with.
Huckabee's entry into the race is a chance to put a man with the right values, experience, temperment, and intelligence into the office of President. He is who he says he is.
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so worship your god or goddess privately.
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Just a case of one nutcase endorsing another nutcase. It all makes perfect sense. |
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it is important to vote your convictions, to stand for your principles even if they do seem to be in the minority. A general election is a different circumstance, but not the primary. Well said, Mr. Huckabee. |
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There are millions of us who usually vote GOP who WILL NOT vote for Rudy, for a variety of reasons. For me it's the amnesty issue, for others it's life, still others, homosexuality or gun rights. Whatever the issue is, it is a bright line we will not cross. No amount of Hillaryscare, intimidation, name-calling or cajoling will get us to vote for Rudy. He's in the wrong party. He is a liberal. I don't vote for liberals. When he loses, don't blame us, we tried to warn you. Flipping off half your voters is not a winning strategy.
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"they forget that the purpose for which they got involved in politics was not to be close to power; it was to speak the truth to power."
I think that is true for most of the conservative factions, including the professional bloggers and radio show hosts. Expediency over efficiency, power over principle. We can't even have intelligent conversations among ourselves. It all ends up in a toxic swarm by paulbots or Gooeys. |
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as a Christian liberal i would vote for huckabee over hillary.
but would not do so for any other republican.
he is the best of both worlds--- a minister who has a rock and roll band.
why republicans don't see that huckabee could grab the moderates and independents is beyond me.
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OK - Guiliani is running as a Republican, but we all know where he stands on values that are most important to us Christian conservatives. But Pat Robertson - SHAME ON U - for taking your values and principles and placing them on a shelf because Guiliani is the frontrunner and you ignore the one and only true Christian conservative Mike Huckabee. Well lets see how you change your mind and say it was a mistake when Mike Huckabee leads the pack and Guiliani falls into distand second place.
It's already happened - a relatively unlikely candidacte named Ronald Reagan went on to become one of this country's greatest Presidents - Mike's the next one!
http://njchristiansforhuckabee.wordpress.com |
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