He's in it for the evangelism at this point. He's preaching his sermon of generosity and hopes he saves a few souls along the way...walking the narrow path.
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It's being said Romney flipped on the "don't ask, don't tell" policy. Previously, it is being said, that he was against it, but now is for it... and that it should not be touched. Perhaps it's another case of Romney seeing a policy that works, and his good business sense lends him to accept the results? |
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that McCain is just more outspoken, but like many Republican Congressmen. There needs to be resounding rejection of him for the timid to take heed. |
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McCain does not care what you think Hugh. He is for immigration reform. Unlike Romney he is not going to change his answer to appease a GOP focus group. |
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"It is good to have Patrick posting here on a more frequent basis, but trying to skip past Senator McCain's iceberg moment won't fly." [What Hugh really means is straighten up and get with the kill McCain now program or you are going to be sent to Town Hall Siberia!]
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"Unlike Romney he is not going to change his answer to appease a GOP focus group."
No, McCain not only would not change his mind even if it meant recognizing flaws that need to be fixed, he won't bother explaining why he supports this bill and won't stop looking down his nose or hide his contempt for those he is asking to elect him. |
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"Romney was polished as always, but didn't quite have the gravitas of Rudy and McCain on national security, seemed to get less time than the other top-tier candidates (although I didn't clock it), and seemed to dodge some of the flip-flop questions. He was particularly off his game toward the end, where he seemed to want to steer the conversation back no matter what to selling things. Not a terrible night by any means (he might not be capable of having one of those in these forums), but he probably was in third of the top three." Rich Lowry http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MDM1NmQzZTkwNDVmNTA3MDA2MGEzMjA4ZmZkMDU4N2Y=
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He had a few good answers.
He didn't do poorly, though some of his later answers weren't up to par, it's just that he didn't do as well as Rudy.
Last time, Dean Barnett wrote that he didn't "see" Romney as much.
That's the effect of him slipping backwards.
It's barely noticeable at first, it's only later, that the reality registers.
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"McCain: For going into this debate with a position on the immigration bill vociferously opposed by many Republicans, the Arizona Senator went out there and made the best case he could. Maybe the best case anyone could. I don’t think he changed that many minds, but he may have walked out of that debate with New Hampshire GOP voters’ respect, if not their votes… And he hit it out of the park in responding to the sister of the slain soldier – respectful, dignified, and from the gut."
http://hillaryspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=YTRjNjg4MzQwZTIyZTM3OTNkOTNjMjg2ZmIwMWVjOGI=
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..that Romney favors making English the "official language" of the USA, but advertises in Spanish? Wow. What a d-bag! |
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care what the base thinks? Really? Come on, now: search your hearts.
What the base of the Republican Pary really wants, I think, will ultimately be found elsewhere, and the GOP (and the Democrats after them) will go the way of the Federalist Party.
Note especially the last four paragraphs of this one:
http://www.firstthings.com/article.php3?id_article=4111
Let the Democrats come, let them take the nation down, and then let's see what arises from the ashes. Perhaps authentic conservatism for the first time in a along time. |
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There's no hypocrisy in what Romney is doing.
It's a fact right now, because a bicultural society has been allowed to rise up, that there are voters out there who can only be reached via Spanish radio and Spanish television.
And of course those media are pervaded by anti-Americanism.
He's just recognizing political reality.
No problem with that.
Or, no problemo! |
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Dan has the answer(Mitt should have Dan coaching him) - but Mitt went from skirting the question to a set of talking points on the international economy and the growth of Asia - what does that have to do with a Spanish commercial? If he had been asked about his commercials in Mandarin that answer might have made sense.
I am fine with Mitt, Rudy or Fred, but Mitt needs to shorten his answers and be more to the point or people will think he is as slick as his hair gel. |
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When McCain came back from the Hanoi Hilton, having had the crap kicked out of him daily, having had his head forcibly dunked in human s*^t weekly, he was a different man.
And he had issues.
And his marriage couldn't handle the strain of that.
And that isn't something to criticize him about, or criticize his former wife about.
He was brutalized as few men ever will be.
He was taken into the very depths of the valley of the shadow, and the man that somehow managed to find his way to the far side, and out of that dark, somber place, was an entirely different John McCain.
I'm livid with McCain's constant elevation of the immigration issue to a level of abstraction that defies disagreement. And I'm heartily sick of his pious platitudes.
But I'm awed by what he went through in the Hanoi Hilton, and I'm awed at the devotion to duty, the love of country that he demonstrated, WHEN HE SO EASILY could have avoided all of it. His tormentors constantly offered him a way out, and he didn't take it.
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McCain and maybe Rudy repels the base; Romney repels Christians and liberals; all others are below the radar. Looks like a smashing Demo victory in 08 unless someone thinks of Plan B. |
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Although he is a republican candidate, from what is so far a re-occurring theme in this presidential race is that most candidates are leaning away from the stereotypical views on what their party says. Sure, McCain might lose some votes from the republicans, but he can be gaining from those who are on the republican's side but are against the "barriers and fences." If republicans are the last choice for a president, democrats will be then more likely to nominate McCain because of his beliefs towards immigration that differ from the other republican candidates. However, McCain focuses on allowing certain immigrant citizenship to those who "are directed towards those who have the job skills, education, and English language proficiency that will make them productive Americans." Evidently, McCain favors immigration, but still holds strongly to his conservative side by exceptions to immigration reform and making sure to not confuse this with "amnesty." |
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Came out the best in my eyes tonight. Both had articulate, well-thought out answers. McCain did better, but really, how could he have done worst?
That forum thing with the chairs was laaaaame. Why didn't they just all sit on love sacks and sing Koombuyah? |
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That's almost as sad as watching Senator McCain's multi-year decline... |
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Nope--I think the bill is going to not make it. Too many flaws. I am for immigration reform (as Hugh secretly is, as Romney is) but the current bill needs work and since the GOP has lost House and Senate all ready (and is working hard to lose the White House too)--well we will have to live with the status quo or wait for the Dems to do their "new" bill in 2009. |
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Is simply a really bad politician. I have tried to like him over the years, but then reality slaps me in the face. Hugh is absolutely correct with his view & the reasons and causes. The man is a really lousy politician, and history will hold him accountable. |
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misinterpreted--you are a McCain supporter, of sorts... a spoiler, as it were...
Your 2009 crack is a bit telling; but betting on elections is like betting on NFL games...
"Any given Sunday", etc...
No bill is better than this bill. Simple enforcement of current laws would be enough. And a bit less rush to incarcerate law enforcement officers while rewarding felons and invaders would be kinda nice, too.
I have friends who are "document-challenged" who work hard; but they are still criminals. I don't say more than that because my city, county, and state actively spend taxpayer (i.e., my) money to support illegals (like the day laborer shelter built across from the courthouse in the county seat, free medical in local emergency rooms, free education for those under 18, and so on).
When our elected leaders start taking their oath of office seriously, I'll help my friends take the right path. Now, they're apparently on the path both major parties want them to follow.
An no, I'm not against legal immigration. I'm just against people "taking cuts in line"... |
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Republican voters still get to decide who their nominee will be. Money only buys elections when people act like sheep. If 80% of Republicans are indeed seeking a conservative, we can nominate one. We can nominate Duncan Hunter. The money players won't like it and are trying to convince us only Rudy, Romney, or McCain can win. Hogwash. They want an open borders candidate. Give Americans a chance to vote for a candidate who WILL secure the border and watch turnout soar. Americans want their government to fulfill it's most basic responsibility.
The primary responsibility of the U.S. government is to protect the territorial integrity and people of this country. They have completely abdicated this responsibility. Both parties have been complicit in this. We are being told it is not possible to control our borders, enforce our laws, and thereby control our destiny as a nation. Hogwash. We are being sold out by corporations intent on importing workers for jobs that can't be exported with the taxpayers paying the true costs, financial and human. If we act like sheep and don't stop the inundation across our borders, we will lose our country without a bleat.
http://www.gohunter08.com |
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Romney does not repel Christians. Romney's religious convictions repel Christians; so did Nixon's and Lincoln's and Jefferson's.
You have to understand that Christians actually believe in free will and freedom of choice. Real freedom of choice. We also recognize that a self-professed born-again Christian like James Earl Carter may well turn out to become the worst President in American History while a self-professed agnostic like Abraham Lincoln may turn out to be the greatest. Its that whole "fallen" thing.
You should look into it. |
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Your guys are right about one thing.. The MSN wants McCain soooo bad, because if he does make it, they will trash him right up to the election day. If you don't think they don't they have the key to his dark closet, your fooling yourself.
His service to the POWs and the counrty was great, but that's it.
By the way, if you care to check, you'll learn that McCain's Navy history prior to Nam isn't very good.
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You know Romney explained the Spanish, by saying he is not against immigration, only illegal immigration. What the heck is wrong with that? He could also put one out in French if we had any French legal immigrants in this country. The one thing I noticed about Romney was that when anyone else was speaking he was totally focused on them. He turned and looked at them until they were finished speaking. Most of the others were gathering together their next response. I must admit Rudy did well, and I liked when Rudy wouldn't shut up for wolf and continued to talk about Libby, and told wolf that this was a man's life they were talking about and yes and no was not adequate.
I think we have to make English the official language of the U.S. and quit futzing around before we end up like my home country - Canada. What a mess that is! However, I don't object to anyone on their own helping those who don't speak it yet.
I wish I could support McCain because he is a genuine hero, but he has gone round the bend and has upset so many of the values of conservatives. Doing anything with teddy (hic) kennedy is a kiss off as far as I'm concerned. As mentioned by someone kennedy is the other half of the oreo cookie with dodd, and I wonder what the waitress thinks about it all these years later. |
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