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Monday, February 16, 2009
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Ask God What Your Grade Is
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Jonathan Lopez is a Christian. He is also a student at Los Angeles City College (LACC) in Los Angeles, California. During the fall 2008 semester, Lopez took an Introduction to Public Speaking (Speech 101) class. It was taught by one John Matteson.

In Speech 101 there are several different speaking assignments, including a delivery speech, a culture speech, an informative speech, and a persuasive speech. For the informative speech, Professor Matteson allowed students to cover any topic and to speak between six and eight minutes with or without visual aids.

In November, Jonathan Lopez attempted to give his informative speech on God and the ways he has seen God act miraculously in his life and in the lives of others. In the middle of that speech, Lopez spoke of God and morality and read the dictionary definition of marriage. He also read two verses from the Bible.

But before Lopez was finished with his speech, Professor Matteson interrupted him. After calling Lopez a “fascist bastard” in front of other students, Matteson invited students to leave the class if they had been offended. When no one left, the professor dismissed the entire class.

As Jonathan Lopez prepared to leave class that day he found an evaluation form left in his backpack by Professor Matteson. There was no grade for the informative speech. Instead there was this instruction: “Ask God what your grade is.” It was followed by a statement saying that “prostyelsyszing [sic] is inappropriate in a public school.”

Professor Matteson’s evaluation did not mention that it is “inappropriate” to censor the speech of those belonging to a protected class. Nor did it mention that it is “inappropriate” to do these things while acting under the color of state law.

This was not the first time Professor Matteson’s animus towards Christians had been on display. Several weeks before the aforementioned incident, he told students the following: “If you voted yes on Proposition 8, you are a fascist bastard.”

Naturally, the combined effect of Professor Matteson’s remarks about Proposition 8 and his remarks about Lopez’ informative speech have created a chilling effect on First Amendment expression. It is likely that students other than Lopez are refraining from expressing political, religious, and social beliefs not in line with Professor Matteson’s.

This chilling effect led Jonathan Lopez to meet, in late November, with Allison Jones, Dean of Academic Affairs at LACC. But the problems continued.

On December 1, Lopez and another student arrived late to Speech 101. To prevent interrupting speakers, Professor Matteson required students to wait outside until they heard applause signifying the end of a speech. Mr. Lopez entered late because he did not hear anyone speaking. Because someone was, in fact, speaking, Lopez apologized to the class.

Professor Matteson ignored this apology and decided to confront Lopez in front of his peers with the following: “Not very Christian of you.” The snide remark caused Lopez heightened concern over his eventual outcome in the class. Consequently, Mr. Lopez decided to give Dean Jones a written note describing the December 1 incident.

Unfortunately, Professor Matteson saw Lopez give the note to Dean Jones. The Professor then confronted Lopez. During the confrontation, the Professor said he would make sure that Lopez was expelled from school.

Mr. Lopez then decided to seek legal counsel and to request action to correct Professor Matteson’s conduct. Both Dean Jones and LACC President Jamillah Moore were sent letters through Mr. Lopez’ attorneys. They refused to take any action.

Instead of acting, Dean Jones wrote that she received two complaints from students in Speech 101. One student allegedly said “I do not believe that our classroom is the proper platform for him to spout his hateful propaganda.” Another student allegedly said “I don’t know what kind of actions can be taken in this situation, but I expect that this student should have to pay some price for preaching hate in the classroom.”

Following the inaction of Dean Jones, Mr. Lopez sent, via counsel, a second letter demanding action in his case. Dean Jones responded by saying that the situation had been appropriately addressed. She then brazenly stated that any service of process or tort claims could be served on the District’s General Counsel.

As of this writing, Mr. Lopez still has not received a grade for his informative speech about God and miracles. Only God knows what his grade is.

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BTW...

Parts 1 and 2 can be found on the Jan La Rue thread in answer to your "Other" question.

SSM Solution, Just Say NO! (part3)

Demand #8
Repeal of all legislative provisions that RESTRICT THE SEX OR NUMBER OF PERSONS entering into a marriage unit; and the extension of legal benefits to all persons who cohabit regardless of sex or numbers.

ANSWER: This is totally UNACCEPTABLE under any circumstances! Just say NO to re-defining the one father, one mother and children definition of the family. Heterosexual couples are paying large sums of money to adopt children from other countries. There are plenty of traditional parent families to adopt children.

http://www.adoptioninstitute.org/FactOverview/international .html


Note: on Gay Agenda, if you wonder where the original reference document is to the 1972 platform and convention, it is at the FBI. If you go to :http://foia.fbi.gov, and then to the electronic reading room, go to "G", scroll down to Gay Activist Alliance, part 1. About 75% of the way down is the set of documents. How is the FBI for a source document?

ALL of the demands of the homosexual AGENDA are UNACCEPTABLE (period) There should be NO “Special Rights” granted or so-called “Hate Crimes” legislation passed to silence a society seeking to protect it's children from disease spreading PERVERTS.

Oops again.
Sorry for the double post (again)!

Allies?
"Justin, If these Tinker-Bells still think of you as an ally, after reading your posts (taking exception to their behavior), how do you explain that?"

The best explanation for their actions would have to come from them. My guess is that they don't see me as an ally or an enemy. The old saying "either you're with us or against us" doesn't really apply to many situations. There is far too much gray area. Lesser of two evils maybe? Indifference? I don't know.

I put a lot of stake in The Constitution and civil law in general. While homosexuality is disgusting to me it's not illegal. Withholding Rights is not Constitutional and should not be used as a punishment. Especially for acts not deemed illegal. That is my opinion.

Justin

Allies?
"Justin, If these Tinker-Bells still think of you as an ally, after reading your posts (taking exception to their behavior), how do you explain that?"

The best explanation for their actions would have to come from them. My guess is that they don't see me as an ally or an enemy. The old saying "either you're with us or against us" doesn't really apply to many situations. There is far too much gray area. Lesser of two evils maybe? Indifference? I don't know.

I put a lot of stake in The Constitution and civil law in general. While homosexuality is disgusting to me it's not illegal. Withholding Rights is not Constitutional and should not be used as a punishment. Especially for acts not deemed illegal. That is my opinion.

Justin

The Tinker-Bell Fantasy

Of course, Homosexuals will forever be attempting to prove that the greatest human beings who ever lived where really “One of Them” You may wish to consider what St. Augustine had to say on the matter:

“Love not in the person his error, but the person; for the person God made, the error the person himself made,” St. Augustine

Justin, If these Tinker-Bells still think of you as an ally, after reading your posts (taking exception to their behavior), how do you explain that?

EXTREME; http://www.beyondtheshadesofgray.org/gayactivism/

http://www.zombietime.com/up_your_alley_2008/

NOTE: on Gay Agenda, if you wonder where the original reference document is to the 1972 platform and convention, it is at the FBI. If you go to :http://foia.fbi.gov, and then to the electronic reading room, go to "G", scroll down to Gay Activist Alliance, part 1. About 75% of the way down is the set of documents. How is the FBI for a source document?

http://www.rslevinson.com/gaylesissues/features/collect/one time/bl_platform1972.htm

Acceptability and Access to children

http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/news/article-1056415/Teach-pl easure-gay-sex-children-young-say-researchers.html



Jeffrey
When you talk to a group of people that are absolutely certain they are right about everything you are bound to anger a few.

RepAt
Oh that's right, I forgot about the DaVinci code. But I doubt I'll get much flack for my "Christ might be a homosexual" comment, since this thread is dying out.

Maybe I should p*ss off the homosexuals, too, and suggest that it's possible Christ was bisexual.

Jeffrey
Oh man you're gonna hear about that one.

But didn't you see the Davinci Code? Jesus had kids with Mary Magdeline and his bloodline is the holy grail.

Wouldn't it be
ironic if it turns out that Jesus Christ was a homosexual? I mean, we don't really know. He didn't marry and have kids, that we know of. If homosexuals occur in nature among humans at a rate of 10%, there's logically a 10% chance that Christ was gay. I wonder, therefore, if it makes much sense for "Christians" to trash homosexuals and homosexual behavior, knowing that Christ might be a homosexual.

Mellor and his Christian obsession
There is not need to even dignify infantile prattle from Mellor with a response. Usually I do it just to make him feel he actually has value.

Never is their a need to attack the defenseless, as Jeffrey and Mellor are.

Sort of helping the intellectually and emotionally less fortunate among us. Pity would be a good descriptor.

Mellor, aka SJ Doc parks himself on any thread having to do with God or homosexuality, and between reruns of Broke Back Mountain posts inane drivel.

Jeffrey never bothers to deny or refute anything posted. He like Mellor, just uses deflection, By failing to refute or deny he admits the validity of the post.

Where you posting from tonight Mellor/SJ Doc? Down under? Arizona? Uk? California? Balboa Park?

I love it when homosexual atheists like Mellor are so obsessed with Christians they just have to park on threads and make believe they established intellectual superiority.

Good, I want them thinking of Christians every day, all day. Hope to help you out with that Mellor/Sj Doc every time I can.




In order for there to a defense...
... first there has to be an attack. So far Fab Cun't's catemite, 659, has not mounted one.

Instead he has pointed to a statement rather like "2+2=4" and said "There! Look what he said! Defend that!"




Anderson
I can't defend the statement because I'm too busy trying to figure out why American "Christians" are obsessed with homosexuality, accumulating wealth, megachurches, televangelists and other un-Biblical things, all while ignoring the Christ of the Bible (remember him?) and his instructions to his followers. Sorry.

More to the point...
... why does the statement (even though it's misquoted) need defending at all?


anderson659
Why should I defend a statement I didn't make?

If you scroll down and read my posts you will see that I defended the student in this case and believe that the teacher should be fired and never allowed to teach again.

Also, if you read some of my posts on this thread and others you will notice my thoughts about what should be taught in schools. Math, Science, English, History, and Football. I would not condone teaching the joys of heterosexual sex in school so I certainly wouldn't condone teaching any other kind of sex either. Sex ed, morals, AND religion should be the responsibility of the parent not school teachers. If schools stuck to the 3 R's then maybe, just maybe, students could pass standardized tests.

I noticed you assume I am pro-choice. This is completely false. I know it's much easier to make one thing you hate into everything you hate, less confusion that way. It must be frustrating to see someone with no moral compass and then find out you probably only disagree on 2 points, one being the compass itself.


Defend this statement Jeffrey/RepAt
"the only way to address the Islamic fundamentalism is to excise the fundamental christian cancer first."

This is a statement SjDoc/ MellorSj wrote. And he is proud of it, there are others just like it. Making up stories about who and what you are as several of the homosexual militants do here, is clear compelling evidence of propaganda mongering, and an attempt to spread a discredited ideology using any means possible.

RepAt and Jeffrey, here is what you people who defend homosexuality and same sex marriage are all about. Recruiting to maintain your political power, you want my children and grandchildren.

This model of education is all through Europe and is currently a brewing national scandal in Britain. It is indefensible, but by all means give it a go and try defending it.

http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/news/article-1056415/Teach-pl easure-gay-sex-children-young-say-researchers.html

The only thing left standing in your way is the bible and its teachings. Mellor, and the rest of you are doing your best to remove it as an impediment.

Once again Bzzt, RepAt
You state my link to the San Fran fair is disturbing. It should be, California law enforcement not only failed to lock up those people, it actually had a recruiting booth there on the street.

Yes, the San Francisco PD had a recruiting booth there. The San Francisco papers hailed it as a successful cultural event that drew in excess of 100,000 homosexuals. It was praised lavishly in the local media. Look it up yourself. SF Gate has numerous articles.

A homosexual cultural event. This fair was tame compared to the street party the nights prior. It reached new levels of low.

This fair is no aberration, it will be coming to a town near you. This is what moral relativism is all about, and the failed premise of same sex marriage, polygamy, incest, and all of the other prohibited behaviors.

And like it or not, homosexual behavior is a choice. All the best research, done by homosexual activists, now admit there is no established genetic link that causes homosexuality. Just look at all of those people that switch sexual preference, and particularily bi- sexuals.

Next time you make assertions about heterosexuals, namely Mardi Gras, etc. use something other than the same talking points used by homosexual militants, that are false on their face.

By the way, go to the FBI reading room as I suggested and look up the agenda. Then tell me with a straight face there is no such thing, 37 years later. This document is a blueprint for what is happening now.

And as a suggestion learn some respect for the pro life-pro family thought instead of disdain. It is the glue that has kept his country together since its founding.

Oops
Sorry about the double post. Like I said not tech savvy.

beating a dead horse
Michael W. and Anderson659

We can have this argument over and over and nothing will get accomplished. One thing all three of us agree on are there are actual and tangible problems with homosexuality. These are spread of disease, health care costs, and unacceptable behavior in public. IMHO a legally binding contract will manage these issues. Not eliminate but manage.

What two consenting adults do in their bedroom is no more your business then what you do in yours is my business (notice I said IN the bedroom). What you think is unnatural is irrelevant. Human teeth evolved to cut and chew meat, therefore vegetarians are unnatural. We don't legislate food intake.

We agree there are problems. Why do you think that continuing on in the same way is going to solve these problems. You can not expect the same tactics to produce different results. You certainly going to stop gays from being gay. Stop being part of the problem and work on a solution.

Anderson, the website you posted is certainly disturbing and disgusting. But that is not relevant to SSM. Every one of those individuals should have been locked up. That is a failure of California law enforcement, but what else can you expect from California?

Beating a Dead Horse
Michael W. and Anderson659

We can have this argument over and over and nothing will get accomplished. One thing all three of us agree on are there are actual and tangible problems with homosexuality. These are spread of disease, health care costs, and unacceptable behavior in public. IMHO a legally binding contract will manage these issues. Not eliminate but manage.

What two consenting adults do in their bedroom is no more your business then what you do in yours is my business (notice I said IN the bedroom). What you think is unnatural is irrelevant. Human teeth evolved to cut and chew meat, therefore vegetarians are unnatural. We don't legislate food intake.

We agree there are problems. Why do you think that continuing on in the same way is going to solve these problems. You can not expect the same tactics to produce different results. You certainly going to stop gays from being gay. Stop being part of the problem and work on a solution.

Anderson, the website you posted is certainly disturbing and disgusting. But that is not relevant to SSM. Every one of those individuals should have been locked up. That is a failure of California law enforcement, but what else can you expect from California?

Michael W.
Atheism vs. Humanism

I said; "not all atheists are humanists, and not all humanists are atheists."

Your response; "SAYS WHO? The Manifesto is your alternative to the Bible"

Says: http://www.thechristianhumanist.com

Now your paranoia will dictate that I created this site as a means if "distraction and misinformation" but I assure you I'm just not that tech savvy. When it comes to computers I am not smarter than a 5th grader.

Look, to assume that all atheists are humanists is as ridiculous as assuming all theists are Jews. Both are false.

"Find a women, establish a relationship, get married, have children and come back to TH after you have retired."

I am happily married to a woman, a Christian woman actually. But if you really worked on the JFK campaign you would be long gone before retirement and I sure would miss the wonderful discussions we have.

In defense of Mellor and SJDoc
Well I can’t speak for others but I don’t think most us questioning some of the motives of “Christians” with regard to homosexuality are in some deep state of fear that maybe Christians are “right.” I think the concern is that a small group of people is being victimized by a larger group who are using their religious texts selectively to exercise power. Heterosexual Christians have found something that they think is sinful (homosexuality and same-sex marriage) and since it’s not a sin they commit, they feel particularly energized to point the finger at others who commit it.

It’s that same kind of satisfaction non-smokers take in criticizing smokers. It’s also the reason that so many Christians are much more hesitant to take on couples who divorce, or individuals who commit adultery. Divorce and adultery are far more prevalent in society, and far more sinful and damaging than homosexuality or same-sex marriage. Yet Christians are surprisingly less eager to create laws against these crimes. Why? My theory is that most Christians have either committed these sins themselves, or want to keep their options open for committing them.

Oddly, Christians aren’t tasked with heading sin off at the pass, as many are trying to do with homosexuality and same-sex marriage. But I guess it’s hard to resist condemning others for sins you know you haven’t committed, or are unlikely to commit, since you’re a heterosexual.

I think it would be refreshing if Christians would police their own for the far more grave matters of adultery and divorce. Same-sex marriage is small potatoes compared to these other two. I don’t think it will happen because too many Christians want to keep their options open for committing adultery and divorce. I don’t think we’ll ever see a time when Christians advocate making adultery or divorce illegal.

Mellor and his grade from God
MellorSJ and his alter ego SJ Doc have an undiminished hatred for anything to do with Christians. An irrational all consuming fear that in the end Christians will have been correct. And it eats at his very soul.

So much he has written Christians should be eradicated from the planet. And he stands by that writing.

When you leave no legacy because your chosen path was that of a sodomite, you remove any chance of history remembering you in a positive light.

No matter how many computer books you authored.

F- for Mellor. Execution of flawed logic renders the application useless. That would be Mellor/SJDoc

RepAt and fallacious blathering
RepAt makes the backwards statement that betrays his entire thought process:

Why should unmarried gay people act any differently than unmarried straight people?.

Big breaking clue for RepAt, there is unacceptable behavior by heterosexuals, married or single.

It bears no resemblence to the filthy, degenerate practices of homosexuals by the tens of thousands.

Here ya go RepAt, peruse these photos of homosexual couples, and singles in San Francisco last year and tell me this compares to Mardi Gras? And this goes on every year.

If you say it does, you are mentally unable to process information in an intelligent manner.

http://www.zombietime.com/up_your_alley_2008/

Furthermore the description of this activity is the exact same that other homosexual apologists have tried to use to offer an explanation. Shows where you get your marching orders.

Here is another example of your marching orders. Since your homosexual agenda has been around since 1972, it is now on display at the fbi.gov. in the electronic reading room, under "G" Gay Activists Alliance. But just for you and Mellor here is another post of it.

You cant deny it.

http://www.rslevinson.com/gaylesissues/features/collect/one time/bl_platform1972.htm

Next time post facts, not silly lies you just made up.


The Mellor point
"Well the Catholic church seems to"

Interesting point Mellor. Perhaps you missed the part about perverts in the church being 90%plus homosexual. Forget about that? Oh yeah, for you as a practicing sodomite that is fine with you.

The personal actions of individuals contrary to their faith do not define an institution Mellor.

What it shows in this case is how homosexual perverts will use any means possible to expand their victim pool.

RepaT- Bzzzt
Homosexuals are not granted marriage status due solely to the bible as you state.

The obvious reason is that same sex marriage does not work. No society has ever condoned it and survived for any length of time. Perhaps history, nature and simple anatomy are not enough for you.

Heterosexuals have prohibitions against marriage that have been shown historically to be non beneficial to society.

The factual content of your posts leave much to be desired. Your obcession with demanding same sex marriage impedes your ability to think clearly.

Really?
"BUT most of all, because society believes PERVERTS should have access to children. "

Well, the catholic church seems to....


Completely unsubstantiated ?

“the Humanist Manifesto is by no means a representation of the ideology of even a majority of atheists.” and (at: 8:05 PM EST) “not all atheists are humanists, and not all humanists are atheists.

SAYS WHO? The Manifesto is your alternative to the Bible, it's your Mien Kampf, LOOK AT THE SIGNERS for God's sake. Oops, sorry about that! No one will accept your “Deception” after reading the link:!

http://www.americanhumanist.org/about/manifesto2.html

“If homosexuals are bound by legal marriage/union contracts then promiscuity, the spread of disease, and lewd behavior at the pride parades drops to levels on par with heterosexuals.”

THAT IS NAIVE? This is about access to children (See Link)!

http://www.silencingchristians.com/

http://www.article8.org/docs/general/platform.htm


“The ONLY reason homosexuals are not granted legal marriages is because of what it says in your bible.”

FALSE: SSM is not permitted because the behavior is Unhealthy, Unnatural and Unnecessary, BUT most of all, because society believes PERVERTS should have access to children.


I knew what you were going to say because you always spout the same old garbage. Your “Deception, Distraction and Disinformation” will not work.

You must have given Sun-Su's “The Art of War” for your birthday and you forget to read the most important chapter? YOU remain part of a 4% minority because of some childhood trauma (I suspect) or perhaps something else is lacking in your life.

Another Conservative put this way while toying with another Liberal Atheist... ““An emotionally healthy person would NOT be as obsessed as you obviously are!” My suggestion: Find a women, establish a relationship, get married, have children and come back to TH after you have retired.

BTW... Justin,
please direct those two “Tinker-Bells” Mellor and Jeffrey to: http://www.Pfox.org where they can get help to live a longer and more productive lives? IT'S OK TO BE X-GAY

And another thing
Atheists and Humanists

Michael, not all atheists are humanists, and not all humanists are atheists. To assume that because I am an atheist I adhere to the humanist manifesto is as moronic as if I thought you adhere to the Koran just because you believe in A (singular) god.

Homosexuals

There are two categories of problems with homosexuality. One is real and tangible, the other is imaginary. The "homosexuality is an abomination" problem is imaginary, that's not a problem and it hurts nobody. The REAL problem is the spread of HIV/AIDS due to promiscuity and unacceptable behavior at gay pride events etc.. But you know what, I know another group of people that spread disease by being promiscuous, UNMARRIED STRAIGHT PEOPLE. Have you ever been to Mardigras, Fantasy Festival, or Spring Break? Pretty unacceptable behavior by straight people, most of whom are UNMARRIED. Why should unmarried gay people act any differently that unmarried straight people?

The ONLY reason homosexuals are not granted legal marriages is because of what it says in your bible. This is a perfect example of why religion has no business in the public square. It has gotten in the way of solving an actual problem because of it's imaginary problem.

And what you might think is "un-natural" is irrelevant. Human teeth are designed to cut and chew meat. I think vegetarians are "un-natural" but you don't see me trying to legislate vegan diets.

The real costs
Let's see now. I pay taxes for:

* Social security, when I get no benefit from it (since Michael believes I'll pop my clogs long before I'll collect)
* Social security, the benefits of which my partner cannot inherit
* Inheritance taxes from/to my spouse's estate
* Education for children I do not have
* Indigents who are pregnant at 15
* Increased taxes because the churches don't pay their share

Straight, sky-pixie-fearing people are costing me a fortune!

Michael W.
If there is any alliance between atheists and homosexuals it is because we are continuously attacked in the same sentences by people like you. Read your own posts. If you see this alliance as a problem you brought it upon yourself. YOU are the problem not the solution.

This fantasy about atheists living for the here and now is completely unsubstantiated. Your opinion is meaningless if you have no facts to support it. Keep in mind that the Humanist Manifesto is by no means a representation of the ideology of even a majority of atheists. The author is NOT a leader of any kind, I couldn't even tell you his or her name. It is a document written by an individual and signed by people that support him. It has NO legal implications and is NOT an "atheist bible" or any other document that guides our way of thinking. You believe I'm lying, I don't care, I've grown quite accustomed to understanding your beliefs to be FALSE.

I too am against actions that raise the costs of society. These include; smoking, drinking, drug use, un-protected sex, and homosexuality (for practical reasons). But guess what? If homosexuals are bound by legal marriage/union contracts then promiscuity, the spread of disease, and lewd behavior at the pride parades drops to levels on par with heterosexuals. So again you are part of the problem and not the solution.

I have no intention of changing my name, and it is you, not me spreading the propoganda.

The Good of Society !

Atheists are by-in-large self absorbed people who believe there is no after-life and therefore they seek to live for the “Here and Now.” Translation: “If it feels good, do it,” after all, there is no heaven, no hell and no sin, so why not? Homosexuals like Mellor “Tinker-Bell” love that idea, so they look to you RepAT to be an ally.

The end result of this kind of thinking and alliance leads to “Unhealthy” life-styles and questionable ethics since, in the Atheists world the individual determines what is good or bad (write or wrong,) NOT SOCIETY AS A WHOLE! (See Humanist Manifesto2 Link)

Using your homosexual allies as an example, Society must pay an “Additional” price to fight the STD's beyond that which is brought about by “Unhealthy” heterosexual behavior.

This EXTRA tax for higher health care costs, child molestation (3% of the people doing 30% of a crime), and a GREATER MORAL DECLINE WHICH DOES NOT SERVE SOCIETY “AS A WHOLE.”

It matters not what you may personally feel,so long as the Atheist Agenda is achieved.

The 4% of the population (Atheists) know that they MUST remove God and ANY religion from the PUBLIC forum that might stand in the way of their objectives. TH Readers can see for themselves at:

http://www.americanhumanist.org/about/manifesto2.html


Homosexual Agenda

http://www.article8.org/docs/general/platform.htm


These manifestos and demands are from your own leaders. You boys are not going to trash your own movement leaders are you? AND if you did, would anyone believe you? NO, sorry boys the game is over and the truth is out there for every TH reader to see.

A Far-Left “Mein Kampf” for the 21st Century

http://www.silencingchristians.com/

I think you better retire your current posting names and come up with new ones, if you are going to continue your tactics of distraction and spreading your propaganda?

Ohhhh! This should be good!
RepAt writes to Michael666: "Could you elaborate on why you believe Atheists are attempting to overturn the good of the whole?"

Don't forget the gays! We need to see that too.

Waiting breathlessly...

(And it's STILL "Kampf".)

Federalist Papers
I too have read the Federalist Papers. But who gets to decide what is for the "good of the Whole"? Depending on perception almost any speech can be suppressed. Not all situations are as cut and dry as yelling fire in a theater. Speaking out against the/any President could be considered as against "the good of the whole". We both know you are good at connecting dots so it shouldn't be too hard for you to understand why "the good of the whole" can quickly turn into socialism, communism, or a dictatorship. Perception is the key.

Could you elaborate on why you believe Atheists are attempting to overturn the good of the whole?

Federalist Paper #10

Covers the 1st Amendment in so much as the "Good of the Whole" is served. I do have a problem with yelling Fire in a movie house or encouraging people to continue doing that which is sickening and killing others, don't you? The "Obamanation" was forecast:

“It is in vain to say that enlightened statesmen will be able to adjust these clashing interests, and render them all subservient to the public good. Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. Nor, in many cases, can such an adjustment be made at all without taking into view indirect and remote considerations, which will rarely prevail over the immediate interest which one party may find in disregarding the rights of another or the good of the whole.”

This is what Atheists and Homosexuals seek to overturn (THE GOOD OF THE WHOLE)


Far-Left Atheist and Homosexual Agendas... their “Mein Kamp” for the 21st Century

http://www.americanhumanist.org/about/manifesto2.html

http://www.article8.org/docs/general/platform.htm

http://www.silencingchristians.com/

The CONSEQUENCES

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMGdRe6m8PE

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1960722/posts


The SOLUTION

http://www.Pfox.org

http://www.exodus-international.org

What?
“It's The BEHAVIOR Stupid.” Homosexual behavior is Unhealthy, Unnatural, and Unnecessary!

Unprotected sex is potentially unhealthy. Straights and gays both get AIDS and sexually transmitted diseases. Unnatural?? What's unnatural about it? People are doing it because it's their natural impulse. They're not "faking" their lust for a same sex partner LOL. Unnecessary? Isn't most sex unnecessary? That is, unless you want to express your love for someone, or just have a lusty good time. Not all sex is intended to produce a child. Infertile opposite sex couples still have sex.

Hate Speech ?

Oh Gee, I forgot those two words as Homosexual Activists distractions from the REAL issue, which is:

“It's The BEHAVIOR Stupid.” Homosexual behavior is Unhealthy, Unnatural, and Unnecessary!

The only people killing Homosexuals are Activists who encourage them to keep doing that which is sickening and killing them. If you “Tinker-Bells” are so tormented, then perhaps it's because your STD ridden life-style, all but insures that you will NEVER reach old age.

Wise up and join the growing X-Guy movement! BTW... Thank you for giving me one more reason to post these educational links:

Far-Left Atheist and Homosexual Agendas... their “Mein Kamp” for the 21st Century

http://www.americanhumanist.org/about/manifesto2.html

http://www.article8.org/docs/general/platform.htm

http://www.silencingchristians.com/

The CONSEQUENCES

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMGdRe6m8PE

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1960722/posts


The SOLUTION

http://www.Pfox.org

http://www.exodus-international.org



Welcome, Jeffrey
I can see you have their number.

If I were a believer, I'd say that number was 666, but it's really closer to 911.

Yikes Michael
Relax. No one's trying to eliminate "God" from anything in this situation. "Christians" are doing a dandy job of undermining God and Jesus Christ on their own.

Religion is not a good reason to promote hate speech, especially before a captive audience. I think this professor over-reacted a little but maybe he's a homosexual who's tired of being bashed by "Christians" who claim that the Bible says that homosexuality is sinful and homosexuals should be killed.

The Bible also says that adultery is prohibited (See Ten Commandments), divorce is nearly impossible and quite displeasing to God (JC's words) and the rich will have a hard time getting into heaven; like pushing a camel through the eye of a needle. Yet "Christians" never torment adulterers, divorcees, or rich people. They find a small minority to pick on. Why is that? Pathetic.

The return of the “Tooth-Fairies”

I was wondering WHEN the Gay Activist Patrol would show up to assist their Atheist Ally?

Yes, I know WE “Disgust-a-Phobic” believers in a prayer-hearing God are all bigots, haters and whatever other words of distraction can be used to take readers attention off the REAL issue.

A Homosexual Activist professor attacks a student engaging in his FREE SPEECH rights under the rules of an assignment and suddenly we must have NO religious based speech associated with trashing the traditional definition of marriage. ARE YOU PEOPLE OUT OF YOUR MINDS?

The FAR-LEFT wants to REMOVE GOD from the market place of ideas and including all public schools. Someone needs to re-read the Federalist Papers:

James Madison, the Father of the Constitution, defined religion simply as "the duty owed the Creator."

Federalist Paper #10

“It is in vain to say that enlightened statesmen will be able to adjust these clashing interests, and render them all subservient to the public good. Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. Nor, in many cases, can such an adjustment be made at all without taking into view indirect and remote considerations, which will rarely prevail over the immediate interest which one party may find in disregarding the rights of another or the good of the whole.”

This is what Atheists and Homosexuals seek to overturn (THE GOOD OF THE WHOLE)


Far-Left Atheist and Homosexual Agendas... their “Mein Kamp” for the 21st Century

http://www.americanhumanist.org/about/manifesto2.html

http://www.article8.org/docs/general/platform.htm

http://www.silencingchristians.com/

The CONSEQUENCES

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMGdRe6m8PE

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1960722/posts


The SOLUTION

http://www.Pfox.org

http://www.exodus-international.org



Why did the author
slyly fail to describe the student's anti-gay rhetoric (in a classroom likely populated by at least one gay student; maybe the professor is gay, also)? "Christians" seem to think they can hide behind pretending to be Christians to promote their hatred of homosexuals. I think the student in a classroom does not have the right to free speech in front of a captive audience. Even the overly conservative US Supreme Court said it was ok for the Alaska school system to censor the "Bong hits for Jesus" sign even when it wasn't on school property.

Hateful "Christians" just need to get help for their homophobia. Real Christians have much bigger issues to face.

A+
Too easy....

You were done before you started
You have not outed me about anything. I have never hid the fact that I think religion should be removed from the public square. Just in-case their is confusion let me shout it from the roof-tops.

RELIGION HAS NO BUSINESS IN THE PUBLIC SQUARE!!!

At least not in any official capacity. Private prayer has every right to be everywhere.

I see Michael W is once again ...
... declaring victory in a battle that (a) is not relevant and (b) is not even vaguely being won by him.

Never mind. He has so many fantasies. What's one more?

YOU are outed RepAT

AND my work is done.

I always love drawing you out about your ongoing efforts to remove GOD from the the Public Square.

Please tell ALL the Wiccans you know that as long as they do whatever Wiccans do in “Silence,” there will be no problems. As for the Muslims they get one free prayer and the other four on their own (sounds fair to me?). OH Gee, I forget about you Atheists. OK, The same goes for you 4%. I realize you have “Nothing” to pray for or to or about, but that's your problem.

BTW...You may have a point when it comes to Santa and the Tooth-fairy (your favorite) but if I'm right and your wrong on “Judgment Day” you are in deep do-do, my friend.

Not retreating
So Soon? I knew you to be a bigot from many past discussions, so why wait. Why not just call a spade a spade?

"and I just know (in Truth) you privately admire this Left-Wing loon of a professor for attacking Lopez."

No, but I am very used to understanding your "truths" to be false so I am not surprised. Here is the thing, I see this as an attack on the students right to free speech. What that students speech was about is not relevant to me. Can you say the same? If that student had been speaking about Islam, Atheism or homosexuality would you be up in arms to defend him? I doubt it.

About prayer in school. Why don't we have a moment of silence in school for Christians, five more for Muslims, and a daily field trip to the woods just in-case there is a Wiccan in the class? You don't want freedom of religion you want freedom of YOUR religion. There are hundreds of "moments" throughout the school day where students can pause to pray to whomever they want if they please. There is no need for a designated moment of silence. Is there a designated time during the day where you work where everyone is given the chance to pray?

I have no anti-Christian prejudice. I certainly believe it to be a falsehood, but that does not make me prejudiced towards it. I also know Santa and the Tooth-fairy to be false, I have no problem with them.

Did RepAt say BIGOT?

NO APOLOGY was offered and retreating behind the “B” word so soon is not like you RepAT.

Of course defending “Unhealthy” life-styles in support of Same Sex Marriage is right up your alley and I just know (in Truth) you privately admire this Left-Wing loon of a professor for attacking Lopez.

NO WINNING HERE, my friend, just a compromise offer of a period of silence for students of faith who may wish to start the school day with a prayer. No one is talking about “TEACHERS” teaching ANY form of religion (Including Secular Humanism).

Dear TH Readers: It would appear that RepAT is upset with me for outing him and his anti-Christian prejudice (along with certain other Liberal ideas).

In RepAt's Atheist Pro-Homosexual “Utopian World” the following links would be banned:

Far-Left Atheist Agenda...
a “Mein Kamp” for the 21st Century

http://www.americanhumanist.org/about/manifesto2.html

Homosexual Agenda

http://www.silencingchristians.com/

http://www.article8.org/docs/general/platform.htm

Acceptability and Access to children

http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/news/article-1056415/Teach-pl easure-gay-sex-children-young-say-researchers.html

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=56 293

Homosexual Brown Shirts in Action: an “Oppressed Minority?”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvPJJAeQ6TQ

http://folsomstreetfair.org/images/fsf_posters/FSF2007_post er_print_ns_800px.jpg

The CONSEQUENCES

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMGdRe6m8PE

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1960722/posts

The SOLUTION

http://www.Pfox.org

http://www.exodus-international.org

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRGZLSVph3A

It's all making sense.
Fabius Cunctator believes that the following are "at war with Christianity"

1) All religions that do not recognize Jesus Christ as God, Lord and Savior of the Human Race.
2) Materialism
3) Secular Humanism
4) Atheism........and many more.


FC. Do you honestly believe it has come to this? Would a better description be that Fabius Cunctator is at war with the above? You may want to seek help. Your conspiracy theories have gotten the best of you.

Apology Accepted Mike
A little quick to call names today I see. So what puts me on the "Liberal Loser List"? Is it because I don't believe in your god (this case would make you a bigot) or is it because I don't have the same hatred for homosexuals as you?

How is it that you know all my views? Pretending to be a Conservative...Really? Are you that paranoid?

Here is a fact. When the Supreme Court removed religion from schools it leveled the playing ground. Before then Christians enjoyed some special treatments and now you're whining because you don't have them anymore. Grow up and get over it.

People are attacked from all directions in schools because parents; Liberals, Conservatives, Christians, Muslims, Jews, Atheists etc.. are incapable of teaching their children right from wrong and expect the teachers to do it for them. If YOU want your kids taught about Christ then YOU need to teach them, not teachers. Their responsibility is to educate students not push ideologies. All of those whining about the removal of religion from school are just lazy parents.

I will repeat what I said; Matteson was out of line. Regardless of his political orientation, he's certainly a liberal and likely gay, he as an INDIVIDUAL was out of line.

But since were inventing lists I guess I'll add mine. Now we have a "Cry-baby Christian" list and Michael W is on the top.

Sorry RepAT

But YOU are on the “Liberal Loser List” and pretending to agree with the Conservative position on this issue, so you can sneak in the back door (so-to-speak) isn't going to work.

When the Supreme Court took God (and the 10 commandments) out of the public schools, it was the first step in a process that has brought us to Lopez being attacked by the Left-Wing loons. There is NOTHING wrong with having a moment of silence after the pledge of allegiance to our flag, so that students of faith can pray (if they wish).

When You Set High Standards...

You'd best be prepared to live by them.

Adams:
"In the middle of that speech, Lopez spoke of God and morality and read the dictionary definition of marriage. He also read two verses from the Bible."

Would those verses include the perennial Rightwing favorite about how God views 'Man laying with Man' as an abomination?

Well, if they did, so be it (though I can't imagine why you don't just come out and say so, all upfront and honest as you are..)

So tell me, if the religion that Mr. Lopez was extolling was Islam, and his verse was from the Koran and all about Jews hiding behind trees and rocks, would Prof Matheson's actins have bothered you just the same?

Out of line
If the scenario played out just the way it was written in the article then Matteson and the supervisors that refused to take action should all, at the least, lose their teaching privelages.

It is very clear that Matteson is using his authority as a teacher to voice his ideology on his students. This is completely unacceptable.

A note, I find it very interesting that many posters here are rightfully upset by Matteson's abuse of authority but see no problem with prayer in school or are even angered by it's removal. This case is exactly why no personal ideologies should be pushed by teachers in school.

I tried...
...to file a complaint with LACC. They've 're-designed' their website...I couldn't find ANY way to voice my opinion.

Ha, ha...got 'em runnin' now...

I've got their address; I can sure write a letter...

If we don't fight for our Freedom of Speech, it will soon become a fond memory. Once we lose it, it will be nigh along impossible to get back. FIGHT FOR IT!!!

Great Suggestion !

Can you imagine what a national effort like that would do to the LACC web-site servers?
Perhaps then they would understand the consequences of this kind of attack on religious freedom and their Christian students?

http://www.lacitycollege.edu/services/complianceoffice/poli cies.html

http://www.silencingchristians.com/

And thanks Fabius... I did leave the F off of the Homosexual Mein Kampf of the 21st Century.

http://www.article8.org/docs/general/platform.htm

LACC & Discrimination Complaints
If you would like to file a complaint in behalf of Lopez, go to:http://www.lacitycollege.edu/services/complianceoffice/policies.html

A couple of hundred thousand complaints might help.

Mr Lopez's grade
Has the sky pixie issued this grade yet?

Thought not.

Vince is Right!

If you really want to understand the AGENDA of this NEW Inquisition, here it is:

http://www.silencingchristians.com/

a Homosexual “Mein Kamp” for the 21st Century

Shut Up...
.. The Inquisition in Reverse.

Tell me again...
...how anything short of civil war will stop the Left. We're not going to be able to vote our way out of this one.



---Obama: Jimmy Carter's second term---

Similar Campus Censorship Cases
I recommend going to the following website for the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education:

http://www.thefire.org/

You can view similar cases, documentaries about college censorship and even see how your own college is rated vis-a-vis protection or censorship of speech.
Thank you, Mrs. Gumbo

Rudolf you are distasteful
and disgusting to joke about a horrible organization such as NAMBLA. You should be kicked off townhall forever. You have a nasty idea of what a joke is. These NAMBLA people should be hunted down and murdered. They prey on innocent children and are the scum of the earth. How dare anyone make a joke about them.

beachmom 10:07 AM
"This stuff happens all the time
At Daniel Webster College in Nashua, NH if your conclusion of global warming is not the same as the professor who teaches it, you get a very low grade."

Can you give the professor's name? subject taught? You never know who might be able to help, if we know who and what.

These people should be named and called out unless you have good reason not to.


What I would do
I would have come back saying that God gave me an A+, and started wearing a wire. And then sued him till I owned the shirt on his back :P

Dogass
Probably has a PhD. in dead language studies or something else highly useful.

-Ray
NRA Life Member
Soli Deo Gloria!!

Funny thing
it is pretty clear who is the "facist"(intolerant bigot) in this case.

Laughable Liberals
Liberals live in a world they've invented in their own minds. Unfortunately for them (and us) there isn't a single principle that they have that applied accross the board to veryone in every situation:

Freedom of speech is only available for people who agree with them (try giving a conservative speech on a US campus).

Their concern for women only includes liberal women (look at the treatment of Sarah Palin)

Their concern for minorities only extends to Liberal minorities (see Michael Steele's campaign in Maryland)

Their concern for children only apllies to given them license not for what's best for them (the Liberal culture wars)

Their concern for education only extends to unionized education (no vouchers of charter schools even though proven effective)

Civil Liberties - only for Liberals (ACLU never represents Christians in cases such as in this article)

etc..etc..etc..etc..etc..etc..etc..etc..



"Doctor" (yeah right) Douglas's MO
"Doctor" (i.e. "I once saw an episode of House") Douglas has been here whinging about REAL Dr. Adams ever since he wrote a column DESTROYING what little credibility "Doctor" Douglas ever had.

"Doctor" Douglas freely admits that he doesn't know whether anything like this ever happened, the says that if it did, he dismisses it as "So what? It doesn't happen in EVERY SINGLE classroom in the United States, so who cares?"

Thankfully it DOESN'T happen in every classroom (however, I'd bet anyone here that IF you actually were an actual professor, you'd make sure it happened every day in your "class" room).

It is an irrefutable fact that there are a good many academics who are openly hostile to Catholics. Anyone who denies it is just too stupid to matter. All anyone has to do is head to http://www.thefire.org -- the website for Freedom for Individual Rights in Education to find out about THOUSANDS of such cases.

But none of that matters. "Doctor" Douglas NEEDS to hide the truth about fascists like himself. If word got out about his scores of allies accross the nation, they'll all find themselves without a job after all their precious grants from their alumni dry up.

Lopez
Can this professor explain what a fascist b is? Lefties use words they do not know the meaning of like fascist. Also, another lefty word thrown around is hate, 2 students say Lopez said hateful things, do they mean that when Lopez says the word god it is hateful?

Doug Derryberry is a racist
Dr. Douglas, your attacks on Mr. Lopez, a poor person of color, are simply inexcusable.

Take your white superiority back to Europe!

This stuff happens all the time
At Daniel Webster College in Nashua, NH if your conclusion of global warming is not the same as the professor who teaches it, you get a very low grade.

Keep turning on the lights.
Glad to see stories like this. Not glad that they happen, but I imagine leftists on campus are acustomed to getting away with this kind of stuff and seeing the facts written in a national forum is the only thing that can slow them down. Glad to have someone like Mike Adams in a position to speak up.


Booker
"I may disagree with everything you say but I'll defend to the death your right to say it."

Voltaire

This is only one of the philosophers under which the first amendment was founded and separates us from most of the other democracies. Due to their actions, it also defines the so called 'liberals' really as FASCISTS.

In this vein, despite the fact they own most of the enabling and fawning Main Stream Media, they can't fathom the existence of talk radio, which not only reflects the free speech rights of the listeners, but it defies their control over what the public is allowed to hear. This also defines them as FASCISTS.

Over the coming days, it will become increasingly clear to even the most obtuse that applying the word 'liberal' to the Obamanites is a misnomer and a distortion of the word in the extreme.

Did somebody say "Fascist?"

Unhinged Anti-Christian Bigotry: Homosexual activist Jamie Ensley, President of the Georgia Log Cabin Republicans and a Georgia GOP official, smeared Americans For Truth About Homosexuality as a “radical Christian domestic terrorist group” and compared AFTAH to Germany’s Nazi Party.

I guess he should read “The Pink Swastika.” If he did, he would know that the National Socialist Party (The Nazis) first meetings were held in a Gay-Bar. In fact, Ernst Roehm (a homosexual with a taste for boys) once belonged to a socialist terror organization called the Iron Fist.

Todays Homosexual Brown Shirts paint Swastikas on churches, disrupt services and attack X-Gays wherever and whenever possible. So much for being an “Oppressed Minority.”

Homosexual Agenda

http://www.silencingchristians.com/

http://www.article8.org/docs/general/platform.htm

http://folsomstreetfair.org/images/fsf_posters/FSF2007_post er_print_ns_800px.jpg

Homosexual Brown Shirts in Action: an “Oppressed Minority?”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvPJJAeQ6TQ

It's called "projectionn.:"
Projection is the psychological mechanism that allows fascist bastards to cope by calling other people fascist bastards.

Free Speech
Personally, I like to hear speech with which I disagree. I am conservative yet I am not a strict Republican. I am Agnostic, believe that abortion is a horrible and sometimes necessary reality, love guns but believe in control, and have no problems with gays marrying.

As for the professor, he should be sanctioned. Clearly, he is teaching the wrong subject. Does he think that the only speech allowed is what he personally approves? Moreover, though I may have been offended at the students speech, I would have welcomed his opinions.

In the defense of free speech...........
recogniza that all LGBT individuals are histrionic and passive-aggressive. No hatred involved except from LGBT individuals toward straight people. We respect the intelligence, we're intolerant of the neurotic behavior. Sexual behavior is merely the manifestation of the etiology of abuse specific to the psychopathology.

diversity of opinion?

Liberals are too simple minded to permit any diversity of opinion.

That is why they "FEEL" about an issue rather than stop to think about any alternatives or consider another opinion.

When reason is emotionally based, it ceases to be logic and can not be refuted, therefore there is no need to consider alternatives.

Of course when Liberal ideas are refuted or or taken apart in debate, then they retreat behind their emotional walls and play games like “Yes, But” or just throw rocks with slogans attached.



No Diversity

Clearly Liberals oppose diversity of opinion.

1964 What a Year

For those of us who graduated high school BEFORE 1964, public schools were still controlled by Teachers and Parents. However, in the summer of 1964, the National Education Association passed a resolution calling for “Values Neutral” Education.

No one has ever given my a satisfactory explanation as to what that means, but I was in my twenties and the mantra of the 60's was “If it feels good, do it.” In any event, there were no “Sex-Ed” classes and the PTA still was in the hands of parents who cared.

That was the first sign (for me) that the Far-Left “Wing-Nuts” had moved out of the universities and into K-12 classrooms. It was a warning of things to come. Please remember that the Secular Humanists had been undermining our educational system since the 1930's with their Humanist Manifesto.

a “Mein Kamp” for the 21st Century

http://www.americanhumanist.org/about/manifesto2.html

Here we are 35 years later and these termites have infiltrated all our public institutions including our government, the courts, the 4th Estate, our mental health industry, our schools and libraries and are poised to impose their evil AGENDA down our throats.

Well NOT ME brother, I'm not going quietly into the night. I'm going to do everything I can to take back the White House and push for Term Limits for Congress so we Conservatives can re-establish “Pro-Family” policies for America.

So when we start saying to ourselves, how on earth did things get so out of hand? The 1960's in general and 1964 in particular, would be a good place to start.

Thanks for the list Ratones: IN 9:16 PM EST

2spothipshot.
On this thread this matter started when Retired Geek asked if I were joining NAMBLA. I obviously am not. I joked about it, I guess that was in bad taste. My apologies.

2spothipshot.
You misspelled my name, it is rudolf with an f.

Lilberal Bias..
Embedded in so many American institutions is no joke. This is just a small example of why.

"Rudolph" joins n.a.m.b.l.a.
The freakin liberal, deviant predators (I know, redundant) are now proudly proclaiming their leftist based fetishes for children. Could you Townhall people track this scum down ?

A freakin molester! Exposing his sickness right here on TH! WHAT THE HELL !?!

Fast Track to Persecution...
As American allow the ungodly liberals to gain control of the political climate of this country, we sink further into the abyss of persecution as a Christian nation. The Bible warns repeatedly of our persecution and how lies will be used against us in order to suppress the Truth. But don't be discouraged:
"Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake. Rejoice and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in Heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you." Matthew 5:11-12

BTW...

Forgot about this SPECIAL ALERT!

Mike Evans will be a guest on Fox and Friends Tuesday morning, February 17 at 8:45 AM Eastern time.

Please tune in to hear what Mike has to say about his new book, Jimmy Carter: The Liberal Left and World Chaos.

Hey Guys

The Lopez case made O'Rielly and Fox News tonight. You can catch it again at 11:PM EST on cable. Their take on it makes the Liberal Trolls on TH look positively foolish!

Ratas
Thanks - for the list and the yeomans effort to read the drivel.

Under 'stimulus' we can expect the list to grow - and the names to change.

Taking names and creating lists will be a very important function in the days ahead. They'll be doing it - we should as well.

Question: no Bryce1?

As to Dr. Dr. Dipsh!t (think Motley Crue's 'Dr. Feelgood'), he's got that quite wrong, as nearly all the tenured radical leftist student terrorizers are. It's they who are the fascist state police shielded by their tenure/educator badges and well armed with grades, GPA and expulsion, like the subject 'educator' of this article.

1964 What a Year

For those of us who graduated high school BERFORE 1964, public schools were still controlled by Teachers and Parents. However, in the summer of 1964, the National Education Association passed a resolution calling for “Values Neutral” Education.

No one has ever given my a satisfactory explanation as to what that means, but I was in my twenties and the mantra of the 60's was “If it feels good, do it.” In any event, there were no “Sex-Ed” classes and the PTA still was in the hands of parents who cared.

That was the first sign (for me) that the Far-Left “Wing-Nuts” had moved out of the universities and into K-12 classrooms. It was a warning of things to come. Please remember that the Secular Humanists had been undermining our educational system since the 1930's with their Humanist Manifesto.

a “Mein Kamp” for the 21st Century

http://www.americanhumanist.org/about/manifesto2.html

Here we are 35 years later and these termites have infiltrated all our public institutions including our government, the courts, the 4th Estate, our mental health industry, our schools and libraries and are poised to impose their evil AGENDA down our throats.

Well NOT ME brother, I'm not going quietly into the night. I'm going to do everything I can to take back the White House and push for Term Limits for Congress so we Conservatives can re-establish “Pro-Family” policies for America.

So when we start saying to ourselves, how on earth did things get so out of hand? The 1960's in general and 1964 in particular, would be a good place to start.

Thanks for the list Ratones: IN 9:16 PM EST


Mr. Douglas rants some more.
"I've had the usual name-calling and smearing from Adams' followers."

We aren't "followers" in the sense that you imagine - we are readers, and will not hesitate to criticize inaccurate columns. But, why are you are still complaining about your alleged lack of respect while you refuse to address Dr. Adams by his correct title? Hypocrite!

"So, like I said before, I never once heard of anything like Adams' [sic!] story."

"I experienced (and heard about) a number of cases in which christian [sic] students...

Ah, you have respect no for Christians, either, or are you ignorant of the rules of grammar?

"...the prof kept his cool and tried not to embarrass the christian [sic] student."

So, it wasn't a typo.

In any event, even if we assume [sic - 'that' missing] this occasionally happens, you have to keep it in perspective. Think of the millions of times [sic - 'that' missing] this sort of thing doesn't happen, in comparison to the few times [sic 'that' missing] it does.

"This is where Adams' article is so dishonest."

Hmmm - the article is dishonest? For a guy who complains about the writings of others, you sure do make a lot of mistakes yourself.

"You may [you mean 'might'] think [sic - the word 'that' is required. We can't think the guy. Get it yet?] this guy is talking about a single case, but believe me, he is generalizing to [sic - 'about'?] academics [sic - do you mean academicians?] in general - read his other columns - sliming multiple professors, the AAUP, and of course me.

Oh, of course! You! Now we get to the point. Poor baby!

"He's a disgrace to an extremely valuable profession."

Really? Then why don't you earn as much as Jane Fonda? Or Rush Limbaugh? Or Hines Ward?

" Fly Over List "


You may find this list handy...


This is my partial, scroll-by list. All are idiots and contribute nothing but insanities...


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On Shapiro Column...

Dr Douglas
Location: OR
Reply # 85
Date: Feb 4, 2009 - 9:22 PM EST

Ratones

Take your Nazi list and shove it.

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Aw, dr doofy, did I hurt your widdle feewings ?

Rat People...


Bandicoot
# 26
Feb 16, 2009 - 5:23 AM EST Dr Douglas: Idiot and Coward
Okay, "Dr" Douglas, I have read enough of your crap. You, sir, are the kind of pseudo intellectual whom I most despise...

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Wrat Wrangler
# 75
Feb 16, 2009 - 9:18 AM EST
Stuff you "flyover list"!!!!
We all know that "Flyover Country" is what the elites on both coasts call everything in between. They look down on the great center of America like 17th century French nobles at Versailles peering down their noses at the peasants who support them.

Well I have my own list. Call it the "Excrement List". The names are piling up like Dr. Dogass, Don Juan de Monte Crisco, FoolGalX and many others...

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Doug
# 77
Feb 16, 2009 - 9:25 AM EST
Wrat Wrangler
It's true; rodents are certainly the objects of much bigotry. Case in point: Rats make great pets...

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Wrat Wrangler
# 84
Feb 16, 2009 - 9:36 AM EST Love those rats
Doug,

When not studying for a dual degree in Criminal Justice/Legal Studies I work in a medical research center as an animal tech. I get to care for about 500 lovable rats. Most are so huge you could leash them for a walk!!

They ARE gentle and affectionate. They will also nurture the offspring of OTHER rats that may have died from being overbred. They are very social animals and bear no resemblance to the poor creatures forced to eak out an existence in sewers and subways.

Use ground corn cob (1/4" size) cedar is too tempting for them to chew on. Give em a nylabone to gnaw. They HAVE to gnaw or their teeth get too long. They only have four, two upper and two lower.


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'Dang word limit!'

This Rat thanks you, and others not posted here for your appreciation of Rats.

Also, I agree with your opinions of dr bungbeetle.

Wrat & "nylabone to gnaw"... I gnaw on liberals.

The Rat, Ret.



Really, now..............
do we actually expect anything less in this culture war between the LGBT community and normal America? It's unfortunate that most conservative college students do not know how to address "homofascism" due to a two generations of propaganda perpetuated by the liberal bodies of the APA(s) and ABA. I'd make use of Oncale vs Sundowner Offshore Oil Services and address the narcissistically hostile and borderline confrontational behavior of this obviously LGBT instructor. I've used it several times in the public and private sectors with remarkable results. You can not fight them if you do not know how.

Hold On!

Fellow Judeo-Christians .... Hold on to your Bibles and Torahs, the worst of the Obamanation is yet to come. Just remember to vote Conservative in 2010.

Typical Lib Behavior
Contrary to "Dr. Douglas" and his claim that this is a "rare" incident, I have read of many such cases. One I recall concerned a Florida teacher who took a child's Bible from him, threw it in the trashcan, and called it "garbage".

Folks either we have a First Amendment that protects free speech or we don't. You can't have it both ways. I will admit to limited exceptions such as the classic "crying fire in a crowded theater" or extreme pornography/obscenity where it can directly affect children or extreme "fighting words". Even here I tread lightly.

This is typical liberal behavior in our modern times. It used to be they would argue for freedom to put their case alongside a more conservative one for balance. This was in a time where many more people were conservative than liberal. They would use the argument "it's only fair". And they would be right.

Now their heads have become so swelled that only their views are allowed in the public forum. No conservatives need apply. Liberals are so convinced of their "rightness" that no dissent is allowed to their views. And please spare me the "separation of church and state at a public college" argument. This argument is only trotted out when Christian speech is involved. You never hear the same thing when the speech concerns Buddhism, Islam, or other non-traditionally American faiths.

Oh and I have two children in college and if any professor called either one of them a "fascist ba$$ard" he would answer to me under the fighting words exception I mentioned above.

public schools
Rudolf Location: NY
Reply # 173
Date: Feb 16, 2009 - 9:08 AM EST
Public schools are that ....
for the all of the public, for everyone. They should have no religion. If you want God in an education, find a private school. In the Netherlands even those are paid for by the government.
School is where people go to get educated right? Why should one subject be discriminated against in favor of another. The Netherlands has nothing to do with it. Personally, I attended public schools in the 60's and 70's when no subject was taboo that I can remember (sex education was a little less risque than what they teach today). Something has radically changed since then for sure. The rise in home schooling and private schools is quite a rejoinder to modern public curricula and policies, no doubt.

IF it was a Liquor store?

bostguy112: MA Feb 16, 2009 - 6:46 PM EST

“I'm sure they were copy cat killings made to look like Mexicans did them. I bet they were all Irish, yes homophobic, racist, Irish head cutter offers.”

At least thats my theory. bostguy112


You may have a point “bostguy,” If... it was a Liquor store. After all you do know why God permitted whiskey to be invented?

Sharia Law..Ya Gotta Love It !!
Prominent Orchard Park man charged with beheading his wife
By Gene Warner
News Staff Reporter

Orchard Park police are investigating a particularly gruesome killing, the beheading of a woman, after her husband — an influential member of the local Muslim community — reported her death to police Thursday.

Police identified the victim as Aasiya Z. Hassan, 37. Detectives have charged her husband, Muzzammil Hassan, 44, with second-degree murder.



Wrat Wrangler
"We just heard on Glenn Beck that there have been SIXTY beheadings along the southern border the last month alone. It's not just Islamists although they are the champs.

The Mexican thugs will use terror to keep the peasants in line. I just saw a store surveillance video that would turn your stomach.

Six members of a Mexican narco gang shot up a store and after all their victims had fallen to the floor one scrote jumped over the counter and poured the rest of his magazine into the back of a young woman. You could see the blood spray and spreading dark patch. Just to make sure there were no witnesses.

I'm sure they were copy cat killings made to look like Mexicans did them. I bet they were all Irish, yes homophobic, racist, Irish head cutter offers.

At least thats my theory.

Dr. Douglas
I did not insult you on this thread, sir. I too, am an academic. In fact, public speaking is one of the courses that I teach. I simply asked you a couple of questions which you have yet to address. To repeat:

Please explain to me how a professor calling a student a "fascist b#####d" in class and refusing to grade a completed assignment is acceptable under any circumstances.

You assert that this is an isolated incident. Please explain to me how many such incidents are required before it becomes wrong.

I await your response.

Dr. Douglas? Still Reading Dr. Adams???
Isn't he the clown who keeps saying he's going to stop reading this column? And yet he stays, so I can only assume that he secretly agrees with Dr. Adams. But hopefully after all of his whining, he realizes that in this country, he has the freedom to act the fool in public. Moreover, no jack-booted government thug will show up in the middle of the night to haul him to the gulag. So please continue to post away, Dr D, because each time you do, you embody the expression of the First Amendment, to which something you believe nobody who disagrees with you is entitled.

And just for comparison, I was lucky enough to attend a very conservative college, where both right and left wing views were welcome. There were no name calling and gnashing of teeth whenever someone with an opposing viewpoint spoke. There was no cries of "hate speech" just because there were disagreements. Somehow, it came fashionable to try to shut the conservatives up when a liberal was within earshot. I think it coincided with the education that liberals got attending liberal colleges where they weren't taught the art of debate, only how to deride your opponent. Because they can't form a cohesive argument, they resort to childish tantrums. I am looking forward to the day that intellectual honesty and rigorous academic standards is again popular. Maybe then we can stop hearing about imagined injuries like this. (Yes, my middle name is Pollyanna.)

XOXOXOXO

Natural Allies

Socialists and Secular Humanists are natural allies. For the most part, nether believe in a prayer hearing God and both subscribe to “Situational Ethics.” Live for the hear and now, “If It Feels Good, Do It” and if Christians get in the way of public policy, we will just REMOVE GOD from the public square and pass “Hate Crimes” legislation to shut them up. What can they do about it?

I think it is time to pay attention to and repeat an earlier post by:
Steve B :OK  7:17 AM EST

"A fateful characteristic of our violent age is the non-violence, the incredible meekness of the victims. Almost without exception, the social scientists are telling us that Americans are at present more violent than they were in the past. Yet anyone who obser