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Wednesday, August 13, 2008
Michael Medved :: Townhall.com Columnist
Edwards, Obama, and the Perils of Narcissism
by Michael Medved
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Democratic strategists loudly insist that the tawdry sex scandal consuming John Edwards will do no damage to the Obama campaign.

Despite the very public embraces between the former North Carolina senator and the presumptive nominee, Obama apologists (can we coin a new term-- "Obamapologists"?) dismiss the Edwards case as an irrelevant distraction. After all, they say that their man never seriously considered his former rival as a potential running mate or even for a major cabinet post, so the unfolding disgrace of a one-time elected official bears no connection to Barack's visionary campaign of hope, change, and global redemption.

For two reasons, however, the meltdown of the sleazy operator long known on my radio show as "The Reptilian Con Edwards" can still hurt Obama's candidacy.

First, it ought to be obvious that the way this story unfolded re-enforces the widespread public impression that media coverage of politics is biased and slanted on behalf of liberal Democrats. A recent Rasmussen survey showed that 55% of respondents already believe that major TV networks, prestige newspapers and mass circulation magazines favor Obama and the Democrats, and as this belief hardens and spreads it will encourage voters to open their minds to the messages of the other side.

Regarding the Edwards affair, mainstream media outlets have already begun questioning their decision to give the former Senator a pass on rumors swirling around him for several years. While the National Enquirer (America's new "journal of record"?) doggedly pursued the stories, more respectable reporters chose to ignore all sorts of available evidence of hanky-panky--- including the on-the-record payment of $114,000 to a blonde, new-agey space-case with no relevant experience to travel with the candidate around the world (even to Africa) making web videos about his "essence." Hillary's press aide Howard Wolfson grumbles about press malfeasance in dropping the ball on this story and thereby destroying her campaign, on the theory that an unexposed Edwards took more votes from her than he did from Barack. In any event, the whole embarrassing mess -- with the major networks and prestige papers utterly "scooped" by the National Enquirer -- underlines the notion that the press plays favorites, especially when it comes to liberal pretty boys who talk in soaring platitudes.

That raises the other, deeper connection between the Edwards embarrassment and Obama's ongoing magical mystery tour. In many ways, the two candidates offer similar packages to the voters --- handsome, youthful guys who make great speeches but campaign for president with shockingly thin resumes and no notable past accomplishments. Both slicksters show the perils of narcissism in those seeking the nation's highest office.

The shocking part of the Edwards story doesn't involve the sad fact that he cheated on his sick wife; as his forlorn defenders righly point out, he's got plenty of company (in both parties) when it comes to marital infidelity. The detail that makes this scandal so much worse than most other Washington melodramas of straying husbands is the fact that Con Ed apparently completed his affair and confessed it to his wife, before he launched his second campaign for the presidency. This means that he collected money from grandmothers and struggling farmers and idealistic teenagers in Iowa (where he finished second in the caucuses) while harboring a secret guilt that he knew could destroy his campaign. With a pregnant former mistress telling friends that Edwards fathered her baby, and with those claims appearing repeatedly in the tabloids, Edwards and his whip-smart lawyer wife Elizabeth must have known that the risks of ultimate exposure were obvious and overwhelming. After all, he authorized the payment of more than $100,000 in campaign funds to a bimbo he met in a bar-- and at least some of that money got paid to her during the time that she provided the candidate with more than video services.

The big question for Edwards, in other words, isn't why he ran into the arms of his mistress (plenty of politicians and other public figures make the same mistake). The real question is why he ran for president a second time after falling into this sleazy behavior and reputedly telling all to his forgiving wife. Consider the timing here: let's see, I've got a wife who's recovering from cancer, and our marriage is recovering from a recent affair. That's the perfect moment to run for President of the United States, right?

The arrogance that led to that deeply demented decision had already reared its ugly head four years earlier with the first Edwards-for-Prez juggernaut. When he decided to seek the nation's highest office in the year 2004, Edwards had won only one prior election in his life and served only one deeply undistinguished term in the U.S. Senate. No one looked at his towering achievements (what achievements, after all, beyond making millions as an ambulance chasing plaintiff's lawyer?) and clamored for his candidacy. He ran only because his handsome face and oratorical ability gave him some chance to win.

Rather than supporting another, more qualified contender to advance those issues he claimed to care about, John Edwards' preening self-regard -- his narcissism, to use his own word --led him to both the first presidential run and his second (despite his wife's illness and the recent dalliance with an aide). In other words, the guy noted for his 400-dollar haircuts fell so deeply in love with his own heroic image that he ignored his obvious limitations and vulnerabilities as a candidate.

This situation directly parallels the current candidacy of Barack Obama. If anything, his record of lifetime accomplishment is even less impressive than Edwards': where the North Carolinian did make a fortune as a wildly successful, sue-happy shyster, Obama enjoyed no comparable triumphs in his dreary years as a "community organizer" and part-time law professor. Moreover, the freshman Senator from Illinois has served even less time in the nation's capital than had Edwards when he made his first race, and his campaign proposals have been notably less specific and detailed than those put forward by his one-time rival.

As with John Edwards, Obama bases his entire candidacy on glamour and eloquence and emotion. Edwards could never adequately explain how he meant to close the gap between the "two Americas" he loved to talk about, and Obama has yet to define what he really has in mind (beyond higher taxes) with the "change" and "hope" he endlessly invokes.

With both candidates, there's a lingering suspicion on the part of many voters that we're really dealing with empty suits -- appealing packages, full of sound and fury, signifying....nothing.

There's also the sense that these are two guys who love to gaze longingly in the mirror, who are a bit too full of themselves, too cock-sure and glib and arrogant for their own good.

The fact that both men came from modest circumstances may help to explain their self-infatuation, but it doesn't mitigate its impact. During the primary campaign against Hillary when critics began to attack Obama for "elitism" and "arrogance" they weren't talking about an elite status based on financial resources or insider influence (even though Obama boasts both). They alluded, rather, to the smug arrogance of high intelligence, movie star looks, natural athleticism, Ivy League degrees, lucky breaks, and effortless success. All viable politicians possess robust egos --otherwise they'd never endure the ordeals of modern campaigning, obviously. But there's something about the Godzilla-sized self-love of Edwards and Obama that stands out, even in a crowd of conceited and presumptuous presidential wannabes, something that makes you long to take both men down a few pegs.

In the deepest sense, the Edwards explosion will hurt Obama because it reminds us of the core similarity of two charming, media-genic guys who believe that despite their lack of meaningful experience they are the only ones who can rescue the United States and represent "the change we've been waiting for."

There's no reason to believe that Barack Obama, with his well-advertised devotion to his charismatic wife, ever followed John Edwards' example in allowing his egotism to indulge extra-marital adventures. But even assuming an impeccable record of matrimonial loyalty, there's still an undeniable history of infatuation that imperils the Democratic campaign.

For Barack Obama, as with John Edwards, his most dangerous love affair is with himself.

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Michael Medved's daily syndicated radio talk show reaches one of the largest national audiences every weekday between 3 and 6 PM, Eastern Time. Michael Medved is the author of eleven books, including the bestsellers What Really Happened to the Class of '65?, Hollywood vs. America, Right Turns and, most recently, The Ten Big Lies About America.
 
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Mike, Mike, how can you miss it?
Of course Obama isn't going to be caught fooling around with another woman. The operative word there being woman. If he's not on the down-low then Madonna is a virgin. Not THE Modonna, the modern one. Question: Does he have a tall athletic "valet de chambre" like John Kerry to lay out his clothes and shaving supplies every morning? Did Batman go on the European tour whilst the future first lady stayed home with the kids? What do they call those guys?? A "gentleman's gentleman"?

"Barry" and John (a perfect match).
It would have been such a spectacle if John Edwards had been picked as VP by Obama (they were pretty chummy) and then John been "outted" right in the middle of the DNC convention.

Awe...shucks. :>/

Walking Eagle
is just another inner city black activist politician. He will do for the US exactly what Ray Nagin did for New Orleans and Kwame Kilpatrick did for Detroit. My biggest worry is that he won't be bad enough for his lib supporters to be so nauseated they get turned off on him and his collectivist ideas. After all, the list of lib politicians who have lied and cheated and got re-elected is quite long. GOP pols behave just as badly, but they pay for it by losing their careers.

because th hates certain apple
computers, I can't read any of the comments
only the last 2, so forgive me if this has
already been said:

This is a bogus column.
Anti-conservative to the core.
I am not to blame for your problems and you are not to blame
for mine no matter how much our background might be similar.
Obama is not Edwards.

Without, knowing every case Edwards took as a lawyer, I can
say I have nothing against him making $ - did he not pay his
secretary and partners??? That I would care about.

Every politician thinks highly enough of himself to run for
office - it is part of the job - loving oneself too much is
something to be weary - can happen to first year mayor
or six term senator.

Carlos: Re your TS Eliot Quote
You must have it right next to you - what is the context: a poem? Which one? A letter? What book did you get that from?

I suspect this is a fruitless question.

GT Johns said
"Jerome Corsi
also penned another tome asserting oil is a nearly infinite resource that continues to generate naturally, and posted a series of online "

Hey, just the reliable source for Anne and Retired Geek.

jagrmeister
Yeah, but you forgot one thing - cons don't really want him to wear a flag pin, they want him to do a little tapdance while eating a piece of watermelon.

Then, it would be covered in the National Enquirer, the conservative paper of record, and become geuinely important news.

Left Angle
I still don't see any "substantial stances" posted by any of world citizen Obama's followers. One would think his lemmings would at least have one "stance of substance" for the Cult of Personality, right?

Norman
Yeah you nailed in your first post. The sentiment is there (although slightly astray) but still very painful to read.

Cheerios with a side of waterboarding!

Hey, Western Bondbeam!

Not much RBABT presence here. Thanks for showing the colors.

It's hard when a waterbrain like Deadhead kinda sorta writes something that vaguely resembles a conservative position. Criticizing him puts us on the same side as mouth-breathing leftists. That's the position these RINO's put us in. Sell out conservatism, or make common cause from time to time with people even more unprincipled and "out there" than Meddie Vedder.

We come, of course, to shoot the RINO messenger, and not always to oppose the message.


Cheerios with P.J. Waterhead!

Norman the RINO-Hunter


jagrmeister721: I remeber U...
your the sicko who thinks late term abortions are so infrequent that we should ignore Obama's pitiful record on abortion.

You kind of remind me of that DOPe FAther Phleger who is running around speaking up for Obama.

You have that embarrassing "I wish I were black" quality about you.

He is narcissistic
How dare, as a black man, he think he is qualified for the highest office in the land? Who does he think he is? He is jumping ahead in line. Oh sure Kennedy and Clinton, as well as Teddy Roosevelt were younger when they ran, but there's just something about Obama. Its clear he is in love with himself. Its because he is so confident and people like him. He should despise himself and walk with his head down, and shoulders slumping - thats how minorities should behave in this country...that is if they know any better!

Hi Anne...

wikiquote is my source :)

Strangely, the 'most loving' of our fellow citizens are 'most likely' to be hooked by Pathological Narcissists.

I had a wonderful and kind and educated lady tell me just today how surprised she was at John Edwards' misdeed(s).

As a Catholic, she was taught to 'love all God's creatures'. They forgot to tell her that placing a Psychopath in charge of her nation's future is equal to 'Harming all God's creatures'.

Even Atheists amaze me.

How on Earth can one have such trouble understanding the existence of 'God', yet freely accept the nonsense we call John Edwards?




Anne.

Let's look on the bright side. Hal may be nearby but Screwy Sophie's clear across the country on the left coast.

Hey. You win some. You lose some.


Up the line? Down the line? Hmmm. Let me think about that.

Ask your son if he ever snow boarded Blue Mountain. Not as well known as some, but I think he'd like it.

Gotta' go. See you tomorrow.





Jerome Corsi
also penned another tome asserting oil is a nearly infinite resource that continues to generate naturally, and posted a series of online comments through 2004, including suggestions that Hillary Rodham Clinton is a lesbian and Muslims worship Satan.

So you believe this guy
On the blog FreeRepublic.com, Corsi wrote that pedophilia “is OK with the Pope as long as it isn't reported by the liberal press,” that “RAGHEADS are Boy-Bumpers as clearly as they are Women-Haters” and that Kerry is “Anti-Christian, Anti-American.”

Last year, Corsi released a book charging President Bush was secretly plotting to create a North American Union by merging the U.S. with Canada and Mexico.

gofer: You're right! Even some of the

demo pundits are curious and a tad nervous that Marxist Obama has no lead at this point...

Whatever little bump he had after his European Vacation, didn't last.....


And did you see Comrade Colmes tonight on H&C? What a little twerp... Still can't get his head around the "big" crowds (Berlin) was because there was ALREADY a free concert and food scheduled, and they put Marxist Obama right smack dab in the middle. HA!

Typical childish lib, Comrade Colmes insists the Republicans are... get ready... "jealous."

T.C. Nope! West..
I think you're further up the line from me... But my son goes up to The Poconos Mts. every chance he gets during the winter to snow board!

Heaven help you, you're closer to hal doofus! :-(






gofer
Listen to this old podcast of Obama on Wait Wait Don' tell Me.

http://www.npr.org/programs/waitwait/archrndwn/2005/aug/050 806.waitwait.html

Don't pay any attention to Anne. She means well, but will say anything to get a republican elected.

About the Polls
Obama is running in about the same place as Kerry was at this time of the year. In some polls, it is within the margin of error. All the hoopla and the adoration and cheering throngs...he still can't seem to get more than 4-6 points at the most. That must be depressing!

Anne.

Nope. Not me. Maybe it was Retired Geek.

20 miles? The Quakertown area?

I'm further down the line in God's Country-The Pocono Mountains.

Odinga
Obama campaigned for him in 2006 against the U.S. supported govt. of Kenya. When Odinga lost, a 1000 people were brutally slaughered and burned to death. The only way to stop the killing was to give Odinga a co-presidency. Nice guy and another radical Obama associate.

Obama isn't to quick on his feet. He speaks stiltedly amidst ers and uhs as if he is carefully choosing each word so as not to get anything wrong that his handlers told him to say.

I bet Dennis Kucky could draw a couple hundred thousand people if it was a street beer fest with free food and beer along with a free rock concert by 2 popular bands. Obama was their punishment and ticket to get in.

Carlos: Impressive!!! You nailed it!

I've read T.S. Eliot, but I didn't recall that.

Excellent. How true!

And yes, I believe wholeheartedly that Obama falls into that category. IF for no other reason than he's been so secretive... and less than honest and open. Corsi's book makes that very clear!


Conservatives will...
...critize their candidate or candidates, just like they are not happy with McCain. You libs keep trying to smear McCain. It won't work, because most real conservatives don't care much for him either. Libs dare not critize their candidate. It matters not WHAT he says or does as long as it's leftist. They strain to defend him and find reasons to support him.

It's not about McCain being all that great, it's about Obama being ALL that bad, get it! I will not stand with the COMMUNIST PARTY USA and even think about voting for this anti-captialist, anti-American Marxist. WHY is the Communists so much in love with him??????? For the same reasons, real Americans, left or right, will not vote for him just because they have a pathological hatred for Bush and conservatives.

Obama represents all the reasons I left the democrat party over 10 years ago, or should I say, they left me. Kennedy was to the right of McCain...that's how much they have gone downhill!!!

Narcissism…

Half of the Harm that is done in this world
Is due to people who want to feel important
They do not mean to do harm -
But the Harm does not interest them.
Or they do not see it, or they justify it,
Because they are absorbed in the endless struggle
To think well of themselves.

T.S. Eliot
-----------------------

Odd? John Edwards choose to describe himself with a term which is synonymous with 'Lack of Empathy' and 'Contradiction' and 'Psychopathy'.

Psychopaths (Narcissists) do something very 'Odd'...

They always 'Warn' their victims ahead of time.

John Edwards has given us 'fair' warning...

"Don't ever trust me again, for I am Heartless".

Dare we not listen?

Maybe Barack has some 'just words' for us too?



T.C., were you the one who asked what
the closest large city in PA to me?
If so... Phila... 20miles.

T.C.: I did not know that, but I guess I

shouldn't be surprised... not even a little!

And, oh yeah, at least a notch below, probably several.

In fact, IMHO, Marxist Obama is far more dangerous that Gore/Kerry would ever have been.

Gore/Kerry would have caused damage due to ineptness... Marxist Obama would overtly cause damage!!!

IMHO :-)

BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA

100 per cent, perfect, pro-abortion voting record.

More perfect than Barbara Boxer, if you can imagine it!

More perfect than John Edwards, if you can imagine it!

I don't see this guy as POTUS, Anne.

He's strictly Gore/Kerry material. In fact, he's a notch below those two . Good grief!




T.C. and all... Make no mistake...

Marxist Obama is NO empty suit! Not by a long shot!!!

IF Marxist Obama was an empty suit, he wouldn't be dangerous... and Obama IS DANGEROUS... VERY DANGEROUS!

Go FOXNEWS and watch the H&C interviews (1&2) with Corsi.

http://www.foxnews.com/hannityandcolmes/index.html

The little added benefit is watching commie colmes part of the interview. I promise you, whatever you pay for cable, this alone is worth it! :-)

T.C.: The MOST PRO-Abortion politician?

Hmmmm? Tough question unless I can say THE ENTIRE DEMO-CRETIN PARTY!!!!

So, okay, who? :-)

Here's some more good news! Seems some of the dem delegates have been... should I say... harassed??? or intimidated???

And they're NOT HAPPY!!! While I did hear one today say that she still doubted that she'd vote for McCain, I've heard several in the past few days say that they WOULD vote for McCain!

And, I saw the guy from P.U.M.A. today... he's got a petition with 2/3rds of the required signatures to have HELLary as a nominee in Denver.

Going to be a fun time... if you're watching on tv. Otherwise, all bets are off! :-)


Sophie
This, and the little Corsi altar at the foot of her bed, her choice of a visual stimulus for fantasies.

Sophie and work

Sophie a long time ago I thought you said you worked as a proof reader?

Wherever you "Work" you sure are ripping off whomever hired you.

Is it a government job or some sort of affirmative action job?

You said you only log on here when your work is caught up - what do you do turn on the lights when you come in and that's it for the day?

Stealing is not just stealing property, stealing is also when you are paid to do something and then spend all of your time on the internet.

I think I will start tracking your hours and maybe post them once a month.

BTW, Obama-Marxist wrote a chapter in a book titled 'After Alinsky' - you ever read it?

Bye Bye All!
Time to go home.

I think I'll put something slutty on for my hubby and get a little action before dinner...

Thanks for the inspiration Anne!

Anne,
I would not call bookfiend bookend. Bookends are useful, from what I've seen of his posts he is totally useless.

THANKS, ANNE.

Bill O. opened his program tonight with the Corsi book.

Guess what? The book is going right through the roof in sales. The American people. Bless them! They're finally looking inside that Empty Suit! And what does that mean for McCain? Yep! It's like money from home!

Anne. Let me ask you something.

WHO IS THE MOST PRO-ABORTION POLITICIAN IN AMERICA AS WE SPEAK THIS VERY NIGHT??????!!!!!

Sophie writes:
Lumber
I did not make a definitive allegation. I said I heard that he had help writing the books.

Uh, that is an allegation, and the "proof" is pretty shaky. Additionally, you said books, yet only referenced one source on one book.

Is Corsi a liar or just plain stupid?
More Corsi lies debunked by Media Matters...

Corsi falsely claims that Obama "has yet to answer questions" concerning whether "he stopped using marijuana and cocaine completely in college, or whether his drug use extended into his law school days or beyond." Corsi writes:

Still, Obama has yet to answer questions whether he ever dealt drugs, or if he stopped using marijuana and cocaine completely in college, or whether his drug usage extended into his law school days or beyond. Did Obama ever use drugs in his days as a community organizer in Chicago, or when he was a state senator from Illinois? How about in the U.S. Senate? If Obama quit using drugs, the public inquiry certain to occur in a general election campaign for the presidency will most certainly aim at the when, how and why questions George W. Bush successfully avoided [Page 77].

In fact, Obama wrote in Dreams that he "stopped getting high" shortly after moving to New York City to attend Columbia University as an undergraduate. From Dreams:

When Sadik lost his own lease, we moved in together. And after a few months of closer scrutiny, he began to realize that the city had indeed had an effect on me, although not the one he'd expected. I stopped getting high. I ran three miles a day and fasted on Sundays. For the first time in years, I applied myself to my studies and started keeping a journal of daily reflections and very bad poetry. Whenever Sadik tried to talk me into hitting a bar, I'd beg off with some tepid excuse, too much work or not enough cash [Page 120].


I bet bookend thought you worked for the
Government Anne because you have the disposition and intelligence of one of those dead-eyed, slack-jawed, disgruntled government employees you run into at the DMV or post office...

You know the type...those bitter civil servants who take out their dissatisfaction with life on any poor person who has the double misfortune of having to deal with your incompetence and unpleasant personality.

Lumber
I did not make a definitive allegation. I said I heard that he had help writing the books.

Here is some evidence:

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2008/05/sorenson_ admits_profiles_in_courage_role/

I don't know if it's true.

Don't be so b!tchy lumber! You're starting to sound like that shrew Anne...

LUMBERJACK! Don't tell me you actually

read sluttysophie's little posts???

She's got the IQ of a turnip, and is about as pleasant as a nose bleed!

Puh... she's not worth the time nor energy.

Best to step over her...


A breakdown of one of Corsi's many lies
from Media Matters:

On Pages 49-50, Corsi falsely claims that Obama did not dedicate Dreams from My Father to his mother or his grandparents. Corsi writes:

Interestingly, Obama did not dedicate Dreams from My Father to his mother, or to his father, Barack Senior, or to his Indonesian stepfather. Missing from the dedication are the grandparents who raised him in Hawaii, especially during the years his mother abandoned him to return to Indonesia to be with Lolo [Soetoro, Obama's stepfather].

In fact, while the 2004 edition of Dreams -- the version Corsi cites in Obama Nation (Part One, endnote 2, Page 306) -- does not contain a separate dedication page, on Page xvii, the last page of the book's introduction, Obama writes:

It is to my family, though -- my mother, my grandparents, my siblings, stretched across oceans and continents -- that I owe the deepest gratitude and to whom I dedicated this book. Without their constant love and support, without their willingness to let me sing their song and their toleration of the occasional wrong note, I could never have hoped to finish. If nothing else, I hope that the love and respect I feel for them shines through on every page [emphasis added].


I saw Corsi the lying snake
interviewed by Contessa Brewer the other day...She made MINCEMEAT outta him! It was classic!

Among his many lies, he claimed that Obama did not dedicate his book to his family...

When Contessa pointed out the truth that Obama did in fact dedicate the book to his family in the introduction, all Corsi could do was stammer repeatedly, "but he didn't have a dedication page! Wah wah wah! He didn't have a dedication page!"


Sophie writes
Subject: Proof to bash a democrat Lumber?
Ah, you don't need that! At least your side never has in the past.

When you make an unsupported allegation, you're damned right I want proof, and not some way loony bin conspiracy theorist. You make unsupported allegations with regularity, and when someone demands proof you come back with a lamea$s excuse like the one above

As to Obama's qualifications, you've made some fair points, but of course we're not gonna agree. I believe he is ready.

I don't.

Why don't you instead educate me on why McCain is such a qualified candidate.

Come, let's hear you wax eloquent on the many fine points of McCain!

Actually, if you ever cared to check, you would know that I have not stated who I support or supported, and I'm not about to begin now.

Glenn Beck is for intelligent people???
Oh my Anne! You are TOO funny ole girl!

No wonder you are so confused!

Awe bookend: You get your jollies out

of coming to a Conservative site and slinging insults? That's tbe best you got?

What were you, the school yard bullie???

Oh and deadbeat, you didn't say why you thought I was working on YOUR tax dollars? Ha Ha Ha


Sorry, it's Freddoso on Beck

"The Case Against Barack Obama: The Unlikely Rise and Unexamined Agenda of the Media's Favorite Candidate " by David Freddoso

Never mind bookend, taft, and sophie.... It's still for intelligent people.

Not only can McCain not get the same
supporters Obama will get, even his fellow republicans are blowing off the GOP convention!

They're too embarrassed to be associated with Bush and McCain!

Ha ha!

T.C. Corsi is on Glenn Beck, in a minute
Must see for any intelligent person...


That leaves out bookend, Taft, and sophie



Anne
I'm not going anywhere, I know more than you think.

Why don't you go read something to improve your mind, like Jerome Corsi or Danielle Steele?


I like how hwm goes the extra mile
to blame the dying betrayed wife too!

That's taking self-righteousness to a sublime level.

hwm, like all good conservatives, knows better than anyone what goes in in someone else's marriage.

They KNOW that Hillary only stayed with Bill for political ambition...

They KNOW that Elizabeth did the same.

I find that rather narcisstic myself...

Marriages can be rather complicated IMHO. The only people who really know what's going on are the husband and wife and sometimes not even both of them!

I don't know if Bill and Hillary love eachother or the Edwards either. I don't know that they don't though either.

WHAT THE DEM. PARTY WILL NOT ALLOW .

The Democratic Party insulted and demeaned Bob Casey's father at one of their conventions almost 30-years ago. His father's crime? He had the courage to stand up against his own party, who refused back then, AND STILL REFUSES TODAY, to allow a single word to be spoken against the murder of babies.

And if you think his son will be allowed to do so, then I have a bridge to sell you.

The Edwards/Obama Party will NEVER allow a single word to be spoken against abortion.

The Dem. Party of Left Angle and Sophie will NEVER allow it.

The Dem. Party of Keith Olbermann/David Gregory/Chris Matthews will NEVER allow it.

The Dem. Party of Moveontraitors/Daily Krap Kos/Media Hates America Matters will NEVER allow it.

The party of Barbara Boxer/Barbara Lee/Dopey Dennis Kucinich will NEVER allow it.

The party of left-wing, Hollywood will NEVER allow it. (note: Some conservatives from La La Land are starting to speak out. Will miracles ever cease?)

THE DEM. PARTY OF THE AP WILL NEVER ALLOW IT!

Why will the Democratic Party never allow it? Because the left-wing, liberal Democratic Party considers abortion something that is NOT Unholy. In fact, they consider it the opposite.






Oh bookend!Said like a typical left wing

lunatic who's too afraid to open his/her eyes and see something OTHER than you want to see.

One can always tell, because they post just like you did..... :-)

Now, how you figure I'm posting while earning a salary on your tax dollars is beyond me. You must just make things up as you go along.

Oh, there's a great idea... Why don't you just go along someplace else!

Cheers! :-)

Taft: "Corsi, ...one twisted egg." HA!

How do you figure that???

The man started researching Marxist Obama in 2006 after reading Obama's first book.

You'd be shocked and amazed at what he uncovered.... Really, shocked and amazed!!!

A well informed and educated person would at least read the book! Or are you just going blindly follow Marxist Obama????

Or perhaps too afraid of what you might learn?


Anne
Conservatives buy all the simple-minded, fantasy books - that lady who said she "died" on the operating table (although she would never name the Dr. or the hospital) and had a conservation with Jesus got very wealthy off of religious conservative fanatics like yourself.

Get back to work, and stop posting TH while you are earning a salary that my tax dollars pay for.

#1 NYTimes BEST SELLER List

"The Obama Nation: Leftist Politics and the Cult of Personality" by Jerome R Corsi

AS IN NUMERO UNO! HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

YUP! And Corsi helped get the TRUTH out about Hanoi Kerry, and he LOST THE ELECTION!

The best was Corsi on Hannity & Colmes last night! Creepie comrade Colmes was spitting and sputter all over himself. It was a beautiful thing! :-)


And right behind... shooting to the top....

"The Case Against Barack Obama: The Unlikely Rise and Unexamined Agenda of the Media's Favorite Candidate " by David Freddoso

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA



bookfiend
Corsi, now that's one twisted egg.

12 Days to the Convention....

* Monday August 25th’s headline prime-time speaker will be Michelle Obama.

* Senator Hillary Clinton, who is a champion for working families and one of the most effective and empathetic voices in the country today, will be the headline prime-time speaker on Tuesday August 26th.

* The headline prime-time speaker on Wednesday August 27th will be Barack Obama’s Vice Presidential nominee.

* On Thursday, August 28th, the DNCC will throw open the doors of the Convention and move to INVESCO Field at Mile High so that more Americans can take part in the fourth night of the Convention as Barack Obama accepts the Democratic nomination.

Barack Obama will accept the presidential nomination in front of 75,000 spectators


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Oh, yes! And when Obama accepts the nomination in front of 75,000 cheering, foot-stomping, elated, rambunctious spectators, lemonheads like Michael Medved can spend DAYS on his talk-radio show trying to minimize and trivialize the swarming masses (just as he did when Obama spoke in Berlin). Medved will never for a second allude to the fact that McCain could not draw even a third of the supporters that Barack will.


Not this coming Monday, but the Monday after that. Which means a VP choice is coming very soon.

How long will it be
before Medved is pimping for Corsi on his show?


Sophie
I'm behind, I guess I've been too busy reading classics.

Just think, I could have improved my mind all this time by perusing Corsi and didn't even know it. Then I could be as well informed as 45 caliber and that font of wit and wisdom, Anne?

Aw-w-w, hwm
It must feel just wonderful to be the only perfect people in a sea of miscreants and totally immoral Americans.

How do you manage it? When you get up in the morning does a pale glow appear around your face?

Have you ever thought about moving somewhere where the populace is a pure and moral as you are?

hwm
Do you think that McCain is more moral than, say McCain, who we know was a big womanizer when he came back from Nam and while his wife was in recovering from a terrible car wreck or the fact that he had some funny business with a pretty lobbyist now so long ago? Or, for that matter, is Bush more moral, secretly having our military torture people behind our backs?

Edwards and Hyporcrisy
...Congratulations to Ruth Marcus of the Washington Post on having the courage to expose Elizabeth Edwards complicity in the John Edwards current scandal. It has always been implied that she was a very aggressive politician. The fact that she would support and encourage her husband's run for the democratic presidential nominee is really remarkable knowing the extreme risk they both were taking in exposure. The Main Stream Media is totally ignoring her participation.
...Hypocrisy is the primary factor in Main Stream Media coverage of politician's sexual escapades. Since the Democrats have no moral standards, there cannot be any hypocrisy involved; hence little or no MSM coverage. Only the Republicans can be nailed for violating their moral standards, thereby resulting in extensive MSM coverage based on hypocrisy. It is all part of the fairness doctrine!


Medved
What a sad and pathetic man to compare a happily married Obama with Edwards. Newt Gingrich would have made a much more apropos choice.

All right Powell!!!!!
What is that...the fourth prominent republican to endorse Obama?

Who knew Powell was a communist?

Yep, Bookfiend, Corsi
is a lying piece of scum...

Media Matters has already gone thru his book of smears and debunked them...

The conservatives will still believe him because it's easier for them to do so.

Oh well, though, they weren't gonna vote for Obama anyway.

Josh
This can';t possibly be true, of course, unless you heard it on FOX news.

Proof to bash a democrat Lumber?
Ah, you don't need that! At least your side never has in the past.

As to Obama's qualifications, you've made some fair points, but of course we're not gonna agree. I believe he is ready.

Why don't you instead educate me on why McCain is such a qualified candidate.

Come, let's hear you wax eloquent on the many fine points of McCain!

Robert Novak is reporting that
Colin Powell will endorse Barack Obama.

2 items from today's news....


From Associated Press: Wed., Aug. 13, 2008:

"WASHINGTON - Sen. Bob Casey of Pennsylvania, a Democrat who opposes abortion rights, will be a featured speaker at the party's national convention, officials said Wednesday."

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Ok, so much for that much-cherished, beloved conservative misconception that democrats BANISH all thinking that doesn't fall into lockstep with majority opinions. See? We are a "Big Tent", too.

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"Abramoff scandal figure raises McCain money:

updated 11:50 a.m. PT, Wed., Aug. 13, 2008
WEST BLOOMFIELD, Mich. - A political strategist tied to the Jack Abramoff lobbying scandal is helping raise money for John McCain, urging his fellow Georgia Republicans to attend a fundraiser for the presidential candidate in Atlanta.

Ralph Reed, former director of the Christian Coalition, touted himself as a member of McCain's "Victory 2008 Team" in an e-mail that solicited donations on McCain's behalf. The Republican National Committee is hosting the fundraiser set for an Atlanta hotel on Aug. 18.

A House investigative committee in 2006 found that Reed interceded with the Bush White House to help some of Abramoff's clients. Reed's public relations firm also received $4.2 million from Abramoff to mobilize Christian voters to fight the opening of casinos that could compete with Abramoff's Indian tribe clients."



Sophie - speaking of books
The same racist, lying, bigoted piece of scum that was paid to organize the swiftboat fiasco has now written a book about Obama. I'm sure he was paid another 5.5 million dollars, and I'm sure conservatives will believe every word.

I just heard that some guy broke into the Dem headquarters in Ark. and killed a veteran worker there - at least the conservative killer didn't have exramarital sex - now THAT would have been immoral!!

Sophie writes:
And from what I've heard, Kennedy didn't write half of what was in his books.

Based upon what PROOF?

Sophie scribbles:
Lumber
Obama had 7 years experience as a State senator and has 4 years experience as a U.S. senator which is a comparable amount of legislative experience.

No it's not. There is one helluva a diffeence between the Illinois legislature and the US Congress. I had the honor of living in Illinois for about 2.5 years. That legislature is one of the most ineffective in the nation.Additionally Obama has spent a grand sum total of 143 days actually doing the job to which the people of Illinois elected him to do.

He also has considerable experience in teaching consititutional law at University of Chicago - a quite impressive institution.

Where many of his students have reported that he spent as much ltime talking about a presidentia campaign as teaching Con Law.

Military service has no bearing on the qualifications to be president.

No, but it does give one leadership, people and managerial skills that teaching law or being a community organizer, whatever the hell that is, does.



It's so funny to hear people talk
about Obama's flip flops, when McCain authored a bill he now says he wouldn't vote for...

Wouldn't that be the big daddy of all flip flops?

And you know full well that his current position does not reflect his true opinion.

He's playing to the "agents of intolerance" base to get elected and you know that full well. He has no intention of deporting two million illegals.

So pardon us if we are not too concerned with Obama's policy refinements.

Considering the success of Obama's
books, it is clear some people were interested in his life, no?

B!tching about the books sounds a bit like sour grapes...

And from what I've heard, Kennedy didn't write half of what was in his books.

Left Angle:
It is very hard to give Obama's position on anything. He flip flops so often, you have to watch the evening news to get his answer of the day. Sorry, I don't like to listen to the news that much.

Let's just say that the main reason I don't like Obama is that he isn't an "honest" politician.

(An honest politician is one who STAYS bought.)

Lumber
Obama had 7 years experience as a State senator and has 4 years experience as a U.S. senator which is a comparable amount of legislative experience.

He also has considerable experience in teaching consititutional law at University of Chicago - a quite impressive institution.

Military service has no bearing on the qualifications to be president.

I'll grant that it is less than JFK but not significantly.

It's also true that Reagan had no foreign policy experience, but that ended up being his strongest suit.

McCain has 26 years experience in washington....

Would you like to now brag about HIS accomplishments during that time?

From Slate, 8/08/08:

"Recall: John McCain returned to the United States from Vietnam in March 1973. His wife, Carol, had been in a near-fatal car accident while he was gone. She was overweight, on crutches, and 4 inches shorter than when McCain had left. McCain ended up divorcing Carol for Cindy Hensley, his current wife. Carol has remained mostly silent on her marriage to John, except for one notable comment to a McCain biographer: “John was turning 40 and wanting to be 25 again.”

There were legal complications, too. The Los Angeles Times reported in June that McCain obtained a marriage license while still legally married to his first wife. McCain suggested in his autobiography that he divorced Carol months before marrying Cindy. In fact, that period was about five weeks. He also said that for the first nine months of his relationship with Cindy, he still “cohabited” with Carol. Social conservatives were never McCain’s base, but yes, it could get worse."


Sophie:
And Kennedy's two books were not about himself, but rather pretty decent history, biography, and political and foreign policy analyses.

Sophie scribbles:
Obama has pretty much the same amount of experience as JFK btw.

JFK had four years as a member of Congress and 8 years as a member of the Senate, along with his Naval Service in WW II. I'm no real fan of the Kennedys but God did you get that wrong.

Oh Geek! You couldn't have it more
backwards!

American communists are the ones who are naive if they think they will ever have a significant influence on policy WHOEVER the president is!

And you are either paranoid or you give america far too little credit by considering them a significant force.

Geek, are you not handling
retirement well?

I'm starting to worry about your compulsive obsession of posting long, pointless, out of context quotes and meaningless suppositions about Obama and his followers...

It has no effect on anyone. You are either preaching to the choir or wasting your time if you think any of your diarretic postings influence Obama supporters in the slightest.

The only people stupid enough to care that communists support Obama are those stupid enough to care that white supremecists support McCain.


Perhaps you could find a hobby?

Communist Party preferences

The Communist Party USA is endorsing Barack Obama. Sam Webb National Chair CPUSA

The CPUSA stated that for their agenda to succeed "This means that McCain must be denied the White House in November."
Author: Erica Smiley and Dan Margolis CPUSA
First published 04/29/2008 16:21

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Obama and Democrats are so naive that the Communists are playing them like a drum.

McSame does the same thing
let's all chat about how Mccain was dating [and other things !?!] with Cindy while his first wife was still married to him. Looking forward to MM telling this story and doing his right spin on things...

Communists are Duping Democrats
NOTE: YCL stands for 'Young Communist League'
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"A Labor and People's Landslide is Necessary and Possible"

Author: Joelle Fishman, Chair, Political Action Committee, CPUSA
First published 04/10/2008 16:31

"Sam’s report lays out the extraordinary democratic struggle engulfing our country, and challenges us as Communists to make our contribution to the forward motion of our class and people."

"...The purpose of this report is to discuss how we contribute to the remarkable movement growing in our country, how we can help build the unity needed to defeat the ultra-right with a landslide vote, and how we can build the movement and the Communist Party and YCL to achieve bold and sweeping gains in the post-election period."

"...Obama’s profound speech tackling race and racism in America opens a new door to uproot the legacy of slavery and the devastation of the era of ultra-right domination.

"He makes a deep contribution to unity in the way he addresses white people and shows that racism holds everyone back and the progress made in overcoming racism benefits everyone."

"Bill Richardson’s response, embracing Obama’s vision and addressing racism against immigrants and Latinos further uplifts the level of unity."

"We have a special responsibility to build the strength of labor, African American, Latino, women and youth voters – the core forces within the broad people’s alliance to defeat the right wing."

"Their leadership will be critical to win the election and then post-election to shape the demands for new policy and build the mass pressure to enact them."

You called it Left Angle!
Have you heard their new little squak about how elitist it is of Obama to take his vacation in exotic Hawaii instead of someplace more american like myrtle beach???

I guess they forget that Hawaii is part of america....that quite a lot of americans like to vacay in the islands...and that it was his home for awhile and where his elderly grandmother resides.

Their desperation is getting pretty pathetic.

Still funny of course...but sad too.

Some have gotten wrapped up in the newest conspiracy theory that....Da da dum dum DA....he's not an american citizen!!!!!!!

Talk about grasping for straws!

Gang of 10 Heroes
1. The "gang of 10" bill unilaterally opens up drilling in the Gulf of Mexico, with no state veto. The GOP bill didn't do that, because Mel Martinez and Charlie Crist didn't want it. Non-Gulf states Virginia, Georgia, and the Carolinas can opt-in if they like; the old GOP bill was opt-in everywhere, allowing Florida to block drilling in the Gulf off of its shores.

2. The bill also allows for seismic exploration along the entire continental shelf.

3. The ban on drilling within 50 miles of the coast was also in the GOP bill.

4. Contrary to many commentators' claims, the "gang of ten" bill is not a lifeline for Obama: "What a bunch of C-R-A-P. " (Yes, he spelled it out like that) "If Obama embraced this, he would be the biggest flipflopper ever." A lot of the opposition to the bill is really a case of trying to keep drilling as an election issue instead of getting more drilling.

5. The bill includes a Zubrin-like flex-fuel provision, requiring that 75% of cars by 2015 and 85% by 2020 be capable of running on something besides gasoline.

6. "Our bill also opens up coal-to-liquids. We couldn't have gotten 44 Republicans for that."

7. The bill is "incredibly aggressive" on nuclear power, including accelerated-depreciation provisions like those for solar and wind power, more NRC resources to speed licensing, and an end to the Carter-era ban on nuclear fuel reprocessing. "We couldn't have gotten 44 Republicans on this."

8. The bill also promotes cellulosic ethanol.

http://www.pajamasmedia.com/instapundit/archives2/022864.ph p

Like him or not, McCain is your
nominee...which may go to show that america is far more moderate than you would like to think. Republicans picked him. Not us libs.

And Josh,

There a quite a few Republicans who aren't going to vote for McCain out of principle. Either because they can't stomach it or they think their best strategy it to let Obama win and come back with a strong conservative in 2012. I see this sentiment on Townhall quite a bit and I LIKE it!

In either case such a lack of enthusiasm is not going to be good for republican turnout...

And democrats are highly motivated.

I think ya'll need to start getting used to the term "president obama"...

Don't worry! It'll be fine!

Obama has pretty much the same amount of experience as JFK btw.

Boomerang to Sophie
This game is fun. Let's pull out names from past administrations and cast aspersions at them. Let's see now . . . how about:

Janet "I will never investigate anyone" Reno

Sandy "I will steal sensitive documents to protect Bubba" Berger

Bill "How much will you pay me for a pardon" Clinton, or was it Bill "oral sex is not sex" Clinton

Madeleine "have a signed basketball, butcher-man Kim Jong Il" Albright

Give me a few more minutes to think up some more . . .

Democrats Useful Idiots for CPUSA

The Communist Party USA not only support Barack Obama they want Democrats to br 'Useful Idiots'.

Communists see Obama as 'Hopiate' for the masses.
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"This fight is winnable, and there is an actual strategy to win, a strategy that consists of more than playing at revolution and calling for chaos in the streets.

Right now the elections are the most critical form of struggle; this is where we have the best shot of finally breaking the back of the ultra right.

Afterwards, we will continue to build a united movement that can work to establish a real electoral alternative, and eventually to challenge the system overall.

This means that McCain must be denied the White House in November

Of course, who wins the elections, is also of importance.

This question is not simply one of whether it will be Obama or Clinton. Going back to the idea of these U.S. electoral parties as coalitions, we have to ask: Which part of the coalition will most decisively leave its mark on the elections?

Will it be the Democratic Party’s leadership, the machine, that section of the capitalist class? Or will it be the base of the party and those who operate within its orbit?

The progressive forces, if they are really able to turn out the vote, to organize best for the elections—and this has been the trend—and to put forward their agendas most strongly, will certainly leave their imprint,

and the next President will be pushed in a much more progressive direction than they may even care to go.

This kind of victory, which would include a total Democratic sweep in November, could set the stage for higher forms of struggle for generations to come."

Revolt with a Vote
Author: Erica Smiley and Dan Margolis CPUSA
First published 04/29/2008 16:21

sophie: you know whats funny...
I aksed these right wingers in here who keep saying:

"OBAMA IS AN EMPTY SUIT WITH NO SUBSTANCE, SQWAK" (LIKE A DERANGED MYNA BYRD DAY AFTER DAY)

Please define "substance" in a politician and also please give one or two examples of where or what obama is proposing on issues such as iraq or the economy and guess what?

they couldnt answer..not a single one of them..oh there were a couple of attempts but
the were really more ad hominen attacks than anything...these right wingers in here are mindless robots who repeat whatever the rnc
tells em to and they must get some pleasure coming in here repeating to themselves everyday because they are not convincing no one but themselves..lmao

CPUSA endorses Obama Geek?
So what's your point?

You don't have one do you?

Are you implying Obama is a communist?

The KKK endorses McCain

http://www.thepresidentialcandidates.us/the-kkk-endorses-jo hn-mccain/454/

Does that mean McCain is a racist?

gtjohns
Gtjohns fancies himself to be quick witted. He is half right

Sophie

Conservatives don't really like McCain. It is all show. They are trying to keep a positive public demeanor - smiling, while their hearts are breaking - because they are on the verge of losing everything... the presidency, Democrats broadening their majority in both the House and the Senate....


McCain at this point could dump Cindy for Lindsay Lohan and the conservative base would STILL rally behind him.... it's all show. It's basically an anti-democrat vote. Nobody's FOR McCain.

Sophie

Just like McCain, Rudy's republicanism is a hoax.

Retired Geek
Making a list of unsubstantiated statements does not evidence for your case. For example:

1) Retired Geek likes to wear dresses

2) Retired Geek is self-centered & self-important

3)Retired Geeks behavior is deceptive

4) Retired Geek frequently lies

5) Retired Geek wishes he could be conning & manipulative.

6) Retired Geek is a Geek

7) ETC..
See how easy that was

As FDR stated:
"In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way." The castration of Edwards is only a preview of the main attraction. Coming soon to a political theater near you!!

Obama Apologists and CPUSA

"The clearest expression of this developing movement pivots around the candidacy of Barack Obama, whose inspirational message and politics have captured the imagination of millions. So much so that many commentators and politicians use the words 'transformational' or 'transforming' to describe his candidacy — that is, a candidacy capable of assembling a broad people’s majority to reconfigure the terms and terrain of politics in this country in a fundamental way."

Sam Webb, Chair Communist Party USA

Mr. Medved....
Would you consider a politician informing his wife of his intentions to dump her for the mistress during a press conference narcisstic?

I think I would.

Apparently Rudy's kids do too since they aren't on speaking terms with him...

Rudy was the GOP frontrunner at one point too....

Do republicans have no standards of decency?

After 26 years in Washington,
What are McCain's notable achievements?

The McCain/Fiengold bill?

Or the Amnesty bill? The bill he wrote that he now says he would vote against?

Let's see ya'll defend these two great achievements.....

When you say Obama is arrogant...
What you really mean is that he is 'uppity'...

Why don't you just admit it?

Is it likely that someone who wasn't confident would run for this position?

Would we WANT someone lacking in confidence as president?

Ronald Reagan had absolutely NO
foreign policy experience when he was elected.

Prior to the debates, he was portrayed as a 'risky' choice...an outsider from hollywood...a cowboy. An empty suit.

At the debates, america had the chance to see who he really was. They were not scared.

When the debates come, and America sees how frail and confused McCain is....that he does not have his own platform but is merely a continuation of the failed Bush policies, the choice will be easy.

Ya'll keep trying though! It's funny watching your futile efforts!

Phylo Way Out
Yo Bro, What have you been smokin? or Drinkin? You need to bend over and grab your ankles bro. The Big O is comin and is gonna give it to you hard, real hard. Cheers

Left Angle-Blood from a turnip?
I haven't seen any Obama supporters listing his stances either.


Good thing you're retired Geek!
cuz you sure waste a helluva lot time imagining (quite incorrectly) what Obama and his supporters think..

Left Angle: Substance is...
the ability to concoct and speak a coherent sentence without the aid of a TELEPROMPTER - something SNOB-BAMA cannot do.

But DOPES like you don't mind that THE ONE has the extemporaneous skills of a third grader -

or that all of his wisdom comes to him via a teleprompter

because you don't care that your candidate is really just a...

KEN DOLL!

All PACKAGING and NO SUBSTANCE!

To the "No Substance Crew"
since i got no takers to clearly define what "substance" means in a politician, nor a single one of you that knows not one political position obama takes on an issue,
I take you right wing brainless robots are in here repeating:

OBAMA IS A EMPTY SUIT WITH NO SUBSTANCE,SQAWK !!!

because it "feels" good. sounds like some derange mynah bird to me. lol

so youre shouting it at top of your lungs without knowing what the heck youre talking about?..heck if it feels good go ya keep repeating it..but one has to wonder exactly WHO are you trying to convince other than yourselves..youre not changing any minds of his supporters..thats for sure.
matter of fact you make yourselves look silly by keep repeating it on a daily basis..lmao

Left Angle, How About Georgia?
The Russians invade Georgia and squash a small, pro-American republic. Obama's response: Both sides should take a "time out" and talk it over. This is classic, weak-kneed, no substance liberalism. McCain comes out swinging in his condemnation of the Russian aggression. A couple days later, Obama had to step up his criticism of Russia as the polls revealed that Obama's no substance kumbaya approach was not working.

wes: Sorry I took so long to ...
respond to your deliciously insulting post. You see I was out utilizing my IQ while you were still typing out your response to mine - probably using one figer at a time - like most LIBERALS do - but to the point...

I KNOW what IQ stands and I have one...

but you wouldn't know how to SPELL IQ if you hadn't copied it from my post!

Thanks again for your brilliant insult - I am devastated by such wit as yours. Keep it coming buddy, I love kicking LIBERAL BUTT!

Speaking of narcissism...
How can Obama have already written 2 auto-biographies before actually doing anything in his life?

AND..

What kind of DOPES would actaully read the biographies of a NOBODY?



Left Angle
I would be very surprised if the average Obama supporter could name one substantial policy stances on the economy or the war, let alone two?


KG @ 12:38 wrote
"I Say Edwards Hurts 0blahma--certainly not with hardcore 0blahma supporters, but this sleaziness (and all the lies which just now tumbling into the light) reminds of Bill Clinton".

Addendum to that: 0blahma didn't need Edwards to provide sleaze, he's plenty proficient at it on his own.

Is Obama the Messiah?

"... a light will shine through that window, a beam of light will come down upon you, you will experience an epiphany ... and you will suddenly realize that you must go to the polls and vote for Obama" - Barack Obama Lebanon, New Hampshire.
January 7, 2008.

"This was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal."
Barack Obama

"...I'm ready to take up the cause, and march with you, and work with you. Together, starting today, let us finish the work that needs to be done, and usher in a new birth of freedom on this Earth." Barack Obama announcement speech

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"...Barack Obama isn't really one of us. Not in the normal way, anyway.

...A Lightworker -- An Attuned Being with Powerful Luminosity and High-Vibration Integrity who will actually help usher in a New Way of Being"
Mark Morford San Francisco Chronicle, Friday, June 06, 2008
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"What Barack Obama has accomplished is the single most extraordinary event that has occurred in the 232 years of the nation’s political history"
Jesse Jackson, Jr.

"I'll do whatever he says to do. I'll collect paper cups off the ground to make his pathway clear."
Halle Berry

"He is not operating on the same plane as ordinary politicians. . . . the agent of transformation in an age of revolution, as a figure uniquely qualified to open the door to the 21st century."
Gary Hart

"This is bigger than Kennedy. . . . This is the New Testament." | "I felt this thrill going up my leg. I mean, I don't have that too often. No, seriously. It's a dramatic event."
Chris Matthews

If You Are NOT for Obama

Those who are not for Obama are weak and selfish wanting to keep their own money.

Those who are not for Obama are stupid and foolish and do Not understand that Obama is the answer to Americas' problems.

Those who are not for Obama are wandering in darkness, unable to see the 'Light' that Obama brings to all human problems.

Those who are not for Obama have sold out to their own needs and self determination and will NOT 'Sacrifice For The Common Good'.

Those who are not for Obama have chosen the evil of 'Capitalism' for self and family, over the goodness of 'Obmanuism' for the 'Common Good'.

Those who are not for Obama are 'losers' that are throwing stones at the real winners - Liberals and Democrats who want 'equal outcomes' for all.

Those who are not for Obama never can understand that 'sacrificing' self for the 'good of others' by coercion, is 'True Compassion'.

Those who are not for Obama, who present facts about Obama that doesn't further the Liberal and Democrat goals of Obamunism, are trying to destroy the Liberal movement.


Left Angle - Is Substance Air
The US Energy Crisis

The Obama-Pelosi coalition say that 'Drilling for More Oil' will NOT help to bring more oil supply into the equation of 'Supply and Demand'.

The Obama-Pelosi group have solved the energy problem with a 'Tire Pressure Gauge' to reduce demand.

Obama-Pelosi and their 'Followers' blindly accept 'knee jerk' solutions to complex issues and problems.

Obama-Pelosi state "Oil companies currently have 68 million acres of leased public lands that contain large amounts of economically recoverable oil available. Drilling in these areas could generate 4.8 million barrels a day so opening up more land is not necessary."

Obama-Pelosi 'Feel' they understand better than petroleum engineers how to obtain oil from drilling.

Obama-Pelosi 'Feel' that oil available in those 68 million acres can produce the same amount as those acres being used.

What is the REAL Obama-Pelosi agenda?

Obama-Pelosi know their 'NON THINKING BLIND FOLLOWERS- will accept anyting they say as "Fact".

Left Angle et al

'Substance' means a fundamental part or characteristic of Obama.

Here are some characteristics of Obama:
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Obama knows the truth, so facts are unnecessary.

Obama has NO empathy for Human life.

Obama has superficial charm.

Obama is self-centered & self-important.

Obama behavior is deceptive.

Obama frequently lies.

Obama is conning & manipulative.

Obama blames others for his actions.

Obama is very Naive.

Obama is a Novice in foreign affairs.

Obama is very arrogant.
Arrogance simply defined is an 'Obnoxious' display of real or imagined superiority.
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Now Left Angle tell us the 'Substance' Obama HAS?

Medved's message fails because he
puts his emphasis on Edwards timing instead of the actual affair. It collapses after that.

"The big question for Edwards, in other words, isn't why he ran into the arms of his mistress (plenty of politicians and other public figures make the same mistake)"

Hey Medved, just because it's expected of public officials and expected of power seekers doesn't mean we should dismiss the act.

"The real question is why he ran for president a second time after falling into this sleazy behavior and reputedly telling all to his forgiving wife."

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So for Medved it's not really about the sex or affair, it's about Edwards having the audacity to continue his egostroke, and so for all his many words (far far too many) to make some point about Obama and Edwards shopping at the same empty suit store, the whole article tastes like a week old Pepsi with the lid left off.

Obama and Friends - chosen carefully

Obama Fact in His Own Words

"I chose my friends carefully. The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structural feminists and punk-rock performance poets." - Barack Obama (Dreams of My Father)
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Obama followers say that:

Mentor Wright
Saul Alinsky
William Ayers
Fr.Pfleger
Louis Farrakhan
Tony Rezco
Frank Marshall
and many others 'WERE NOT CHOSEN CAREFULLY'.

Obama then faces one of two charges or both.

Obama was lying when he stated, he carefully chooses friends or Obama is so NAIVE he cannot tell when the people he associates with have a 'Bad Character'.

Either way Obama tells us he is capable of meeting with those like Ahminajead and protecting America.

I can understand why Obama will do or say anything for political expediency - I do NOT agree with that - what I cannot understand is how the Obama followers can believe Obama.

A once famous 'Cult Leader' said 'I do not really believe I am God, I just like for my followers to believe I am God'.

"... a light will shine through that window, a beam of light will come down upon you, you will experience an epiphany ... and you will suddenly realize that you must go to the polls and vote for Obama" - Barack Obama Lebanon, New Hampshire.
January 7, 2008.

Obama 'followers' with glassy eyed enthusiasm chant "Yes He Is".

to the "No Substance" Crew
please define what "substance" means in a politician.

please tell me at least two policy stances Sen. Obama takes on two major issues such as iraq or the economy and what he proposes and please explain why his proposals have "no substance".

Edwards = a shiny $3 bill
The fact that Edwards was ever in contention for presidential nominee of the Democrat party is both alarming and depressing. He made MILLIONS from suing doctors and hospitals, using his silver-tongue to persuade silly juries to award vast sums of money based on bogus legal-medical theories that are known to be completely false today. Did he ever think to return any of his ill-gotten gains? No way. Instead he "retired" to the Senate and his huge mansion and he now prattles on about wanting to help the poor while he lives high on the hog. He is so fake that he makes my $20 Rolex look good. Good grief Democrats, have you neither brains nor shame? And do you secretly worry that Obama and Edwards are more or less the same -- all BS and no substance?

Follow the Money
The real scandal with Edwards will be all the money spent to cover up his affair. Why did his buddy spend millions setting up the mistress and the alleged "real" daddy in California? Who is supporting them now? Was any campaign money used? There really needs to be an investigation.

To all those trying to equate Slick Ed's affairs with John McCain's... I would be much more forgiving of John McCain. How many marriages can survive what he went through. Also, its old news. John Edwards played the loving devoted husband during his campaign, in on air interviews... Why the Dems keep putting up such useless, inexperienced, shallow candidates I can't imagine. Well, yes I can...they are going for the razzle dazzle, the show.... because so many Americans fall for it.

What are you thinking?
The really sad thing about both parties is that neither one got the best candidate for this election. If osama obama were white he would have crashed and burned along with that hobbit from Ohio Dennis K. McCain athough and honorable and patriotic man was not the choice of the Republican party but instead the choice of the cross overs who voted for him in the hope Conservatives would stay home on November 4th. The dems wanted the youth and black vote and were afraid that if they didn't nominate osama obama the blacks would stay home. Well "your chickens have come home to roost." Once Americans start paying attention and see how thin osama obama's resume is they will reject him then we will be stuck with captain straight talk. Problem is with his age McCain will most likely be a one term president so picking a second in command will have a bigger impact on him than that cardboard cutout osama obama. Stap your safety belts cause it's gonna be abumpy ride.

No harm done
The fact that Edwards WAS being seriously considered for at least a cabinet post will be successfully buried by the time-honored tactic of repeating a lie so often that the sheeple will come to believe it.

So no, Edwards's antics won't hurt Obama, even if it's proven that he violated campaign finance laws in feathering his love nest.


It's What's On The Inside That Counts
Pearly white teeth and $400 haircuts surely will help all of those liberal democrats solve the nation's national debt crisis; bring peace to the world; stop hunger as food costs rise; stop the loss of jobs as CEO's outsourced our jobs so they could make China a super economic power - by the way, thanks to the CEO's who sold us out for a bag of gold; anyway, they'll certainly be able to solve the high cost of gasoline and the fact that the 90s administration stripped away our sovereignty by voting in NAFTA and opened the door for anyone to walk into our country and violate our laws and tell Americans what they can or can't do as they diminish the U.S. Constitution and kick our Judeo-Christian foundation to the curb as wel as God - Wow, those extreme liberals certainly have brought a lot of "CHANGE" to this country and I shutter to think what CHANGE they could bring in the future if they have control of the switch and turn the lights off in the White House that is on the alleged brink of bankruptcy and facing a national gas & oil crisis. But, they'd rather go on vacation while telling the American people that they'll have to wait until they decide to make a decision while food, gas and taxes increase to a level that Americans can no longer afford. Now, doesn't anyone wonder why they don't care?

Obama the anchor baby
Osama Obama is a Kenyan anchor baby whose hippy mother spawned so his radical muslim father could stay in the country. Of course once daddy finished school he abandoned mom and child to be raised by the white side of the family. Obama is an empty suit with a colgate smile and coppertone tan. Nothing more and nothing less.

As usual
the normal liberal poster has resorted to bashing conservatives - since they know they cannot in any good faith defend the dishonesty of John Edwards.

I agree with Michael Medved, it isn't about the sex - it is about the LYING! And the "tangled webs" that come after "when first we practice to deceive!"

Both of these men have left a trail of BAD PERSONAL DECISIONS! And "just words" will not get them out of the ditches they have dug by their OWN actions!

I agree with the basic premise
of this column - BOTH Edwards and Obama are nothing more than a figment of their own imaginations! EMPTY MEN!!! "JUST WORDS" 2 Americas or Change and Hope - they both have NO substance whatsoever. And the mirror is their best friend!

And I agree - athleticism can NOT be aptly used in reference to a smoker who can't quit and who bowls a 36! So he can stand around and toss a basketball...woweee!

SSlaughter
McCain’s adultery was REPREHENSIBLE, but he came home to a different person. Plus HE probably came home a different person after 5 years of NVA Torture. AMAZING how The NYT, etc were SCOOPED by The Enquirer, but the Liberal Liars, Cheats and Cowards can STILL say “There is no Liberal Media Bias” with a straight face.

Wasn't John McCain
about the same age as Edwards when he cheated on his first wife. Oh this is TH were suppose to act like that never happened.

Obama's Magical Mystery Tour?
Mr Medved states:

"That raises the other, deeper connection between the Edwards embarrassment and Obama's ongoing magical mystery tour. In many ways, the two candidates offer similar packages to the voters --- handsome, youthful guys who make great speeches but campaign for president with shockingly thin resumes and no notable past accomplishments. Both slicksters show the perils of narcissism in those seeking the nation's highest office."

This statement by Mr. Medved is patently absurd on a number of levels...

first there is no connection between "Mr. Edwards embarrassment and Obama. exactly what the heck did Obama have to do with Mr. Edwards extramarital affair and how is he responsible for it?

Obama's "Magical Mystery Tour"

this says to me that medved and the like do not take Sen. Obama seriously in his quest for POTUS and are in denial as to the fact that he has defeated the formidable Clintons, is about to claim the Democratic Nomination for POTUS and is leading Sen. McCain in practically every
major poll as we speak. I'd say thats a hell of a accomplishment for someone with such a "thin resume". yet repubs/cons still dont take obama seriously? cool keep right on underestimating him.

the "Magical Mystery Tour" comment denotes that that Medved and the far right think that Obama's campaign is succeeding because of "smoke and mirrors", misrepresentation of his "true" self, his looks & oratorical powers.
In other words the man is a fraud as they see him. the key for them is they beleive once his supporters find out the "real" obama the charade will be over and they wont vote for him.. thats very funny and a very stupid strategy if they are depending on that to defeat obama.

Where does it say a thick resume is a requirement to be potus? the prime thing is obama's supporter could care less what repubs/cons think of his resume.


Hillary told Rush to be careful
what he wished for. I have strong suspicions that Hillary is not out of this race yet. Remember that she has not released her delegates. She is willing to have her name placed in nomination. All delegates may change their votes on the second go-round. This is not to say that I am anxious for her candidacy. Quite the contrary. I simply fear for this country should a novice like Obama manage to get himself elected.

Headbowompus
God, there is no end to wisdom and clear thinking on TH, is there?

I've noticed that certain columnists attract certain levels of posters, i.e., Adams attracts all the homophobomaniacs and Oxycontin-swilling-philosophers, Doug Giles attracts the boys who love phoney tough talk and keep confusing their guns with their private parts, etc.

In fact, you can almost tell the level of quality in a column by the posters it attracts.

I'm definitely outta here, this is as much fun as poisoning dogs.

Join the Obama Sing-A-Long, It's fun!
Arise ye starvelings from your slumbers
Arise ye prisoners of want
For reason in revolt now thunders
And at last ends the age of cant.
Away with all your superstitions
Servile masses arise, arise
We'll change henceforth the old tradition
And spurn the dust to win the prize.

So comrades, come rally
And the last fight let us face
The Internationale unites the human race.
So comrades, come rally
And the last fight let us face
The Internationale unites the human race.

No more deluded by reaction
On tyrants only we'll make war
The soldiers too will take strike action
They'll break ranks and fight no more
And if those cannibals keep trying
To sacrifice us to their pride
They soon shall hear the bullets flying
We'll shoot the generals on our own side.

No saviour from on high delivers
No faith have we in prince or peer
Our own right hand the chains must shiver
Chains of hatred, greed and fear
E'er the thieves will give up their booty
And give to all a happier lot.
Those at the forge must do their duty
And we'll strike while the iron is hot.


Who paid off Raell and Andy?
And were campaign funds involved? Might violation of Federal Law be involved? These are questions of interest. The extent to which Edwards character was exposed is not relevant; he is a rotter, so what? I don't think Obama is a rotter; he is just another ego driven politician.

Vaquero
LOL. You need to stop reading graphic novels for your political information. How do you manage to balance that giant brain on top of your neck all day?

wes from illinois
i hope everyone knows that wes , who hails from ill , and is ill ( somebody should put him to sleep ) , like osama obama ,
is full of rhino dumo.

Medved-The Great One is right
The reality is BHO, Edwards & the MediaRats have very blatantly conspired in a huge cover up which has damaged the Hillary Campaign. This is why the ObamaBots simply start criticizing Bush and McCain, they know how much this will affect the discord in the Rat Party. Popcorn anyone?

To be sure
Dems have been disappointed and furious with both Edwards and his wife, but the one thing that is even harder to take is the pure joy of conservatives when they get a chance to play holier-than-thou and revel in the ultimate tragedy, wich is about the children involved.

You are such nice, kind people. If I were religious, would I be able to take such pleasure in another person's misery?

What am I missing?

Is it possible for anyone to get more
pleasure at the chance to moralize about "Dems than Medved? He must have spent the first 24 hours doing the happy dance around his koi pond. As I said before, conservatives sure know how to have fun, watching an entire family implode is such joy.

Since we now know that the National Enquirer is reliable, why hasn't the so-called "liberal" MSM followed up on the stories about George Bush's affairs (Condi and another named woman) and his resumption of unabashed drinking?

The only other person I saw as delighted about this turn of events as Medved was Wolf Blitzer on CNN, who seemed to be thrilled that they had something else to talk about during the doldrums of August other than the election.

Great column...
funny, pointed, and true - ED and BARRY: two snakes in the Dem's grass.

ED CON and Oblahma are pathetic parodies of their empty self-delusion self-interested selves.

However, ED CON's experience trumps Oblahma's:
ED CON has spent more time with his mistress than Oblahma has spent in public office -

Oblahma's inexperience pulls one dead rabbit after another out of his socialist magic hat.
Obama - the man who wannabe's but isn't...

But the Democrats keep on giving -
Wicked Witch Pelosi, Hapless Harry Reid, Killer Kennedy, Big Wind In My Rear Kerry (the only two women he could find to marry just also happened to be millionaires), Dirty Dealin' Durbin, Schmuck Chuck Schumer, Big Bertha Murtha, Pimpin' Clinton, Countrywide Can't Cover My Rear End Dodd, Mr. I Invented the Internet /Inconvenient Lies expert Big Al Bore - perfect type casting for Follywood's B- movies.

Bill/Hill's votin' for McCain!

More Puff
Medved writes another piece stretching any story, event, or personality so it touches and magically implicates Obama.

Edwards and his wife are both contemptible--as would be any candidate-spouse combo--for leading voters and party on a campaign always at risk of imploding.

Medved doesn't believe Obama's qualified. Fine. But that claim is then linked to Edward's narcissism. Not a powerful linkage.

As I've said before, no one beats the narcissism of one who claims the all-knowing,powerful, and good creator and sustainer chooses him to lead the free world---I mean President Bush. That's a bizarre and dangerous delusional narcissism.

Will
you were caught in a sweaty, homosexual one-night-stand with Rick Santorum

They are doing a lot these days with sex- aholic issues.

Let's have fun
and start a rumor regarding "those very public embraces" between Obummer and Edwards. Just how friendly are they in the privacy of the Senate cloakroom? While such behavior would be seen as a plus by a large percentage of Democrats, it would keep our minds off nasty stuff like the war, the economy and energy costs.

Marital Infidelity
The web site "All About Life Challenges" claims that a recent survey (which might be inaccurate) shows that 15% or men and 25% of women have experienced "extramarital intercourse". However, the web site discloses nothing about the survey--who conducted it, how many people participated, how accurate the responses are presumed to be, etc. It is possible that people said "yes" because they wanted to be considered sophisticated. Wikipedia has a discussion of "infidelity" that lists various books on the subject, but I clicked around there and didn't see any incidence numbers.

It would make sense that marital infidelity would have really increased since World War II. The geographic isolation of young couples during WWII was probably associated in greater infidelity and then after the war there was the profit driven influence of Hugh Hefner. Opportunities for infidelity zoomed with business travel and car ownership.

It makes sense that if infidelity increased after WWII, that there would be a delay before the negative effects of infidelity become recognized. Such as more isolation of older people.

GUMBI5 (post @ 7:35 a.m.)

Wait till you hear the "bamble" if McCain wins. The stuff after 2004 & 2008 will sound tame.

By the way, Gore/Kerry/Obama has a nice ring to it. Loser/Loser/Loser. Good beat, wonderful sound, too. I could dance to it.

Why Obama will win
This column gives a good indication of why Obama is going to win the election. Republicans really have nothing relevant to run on.

Medved is reduced to trying to make the case that voters will turn on Obama because of actions that Edwards did. The leap here is amazing. First, one has to believe that in a race between Obama and McCain people will be thinking about Edwards. And then you have to assume that what they will be thinking is not that Edwards and McCain both cheated on wives while they were unhealthy. But rather that Edwards and Obama are both atheletic and successful in life.

(This reminds me of Thomas Sowell grousing about how liberals supposedly turn privileged into a dirty word. Here conservatives are reduced to trying to turn successful into a shortcoming).

It is also funny seeing Conservatives, particularly value conservatives like Medved, stuck trying to make the case that it is not the cheating on ones wife that is bad about cheating on ones wife.

With Edwards out of the race, his affair is one of the least interesting scandals I can remember. (Someone who is not in government acted badly, really? I should care why?) But there is some entertainment value in watching conservatives try to make this an issue in the campaign. The contortions are olympic quality.

Laura cap, we can only hope
that obama would choose Kerry as veep, but i gravely doubt it.

1. obama will carry MA without Kerry.
2. it would drape obama with a has been/loser image.
3. if anyone in the world is more narcissistic than obama and edwards, its yawn kerry. i had the non-pleasure of meeting him once, and this was when he was running for senate the first time, not as an automatic incumbent. he gave me that distinct feeling of 'how lucky you are to meet me, but let me move on in the room to someone more important' while looking over my shoulder.

The one i fear: gov ed rendell of PA. that would wrap up that supposed tossup state, and help to mend fences with hellary supporters, since rendell was a major one, and he's a very strong campaigner, and would give obama the executive (plus former mayor of Phil)cred he lacks.

patriotic
"Republicans ostracize their malefactors."
------------

Is this why McCain almost switched parties awhile back? Granted, the Republicans did make him wait 20 some odd years after his own affair. Edwards may only have to wait another 4.

Media bias?
The myth of a liberal bias is one of the oldest big lies in politics.

Let's look at the facts:

The Center for Media and Public Affairs at George Mason University, where researchers have tracked network news content for two decades, found that ABC, NBC and CBS were tougher on Obama than on Republican John McCain during the first six weeks of the general-election campaign.
You read it right: tougher on the Democrat.
During the evening news, the majority of statements from reporters and anchors on all three networks are neutral, the center found. And when network news people ventured opinions in recent weeks, 28% of the statements were positive for Obama and 72% negative.
Network reporting also tilted against McCain, but far less dramatically, with 43% of the statements positive and 57% negative, according to the Washington-based media center.

Liberal media? Hardly.

If they are so "liberal" why has the media not reported that almost every ad run by McCain is filled with flat out lies, as is reported at factcheck.org? Wouldn't a supposedly liberal media be all over that?

And what about CBS News' Katie Couric editing out a mistake by John McCain?

Think for yourselves folks. The right wing spin monkeys want you to mistrust actual news and believe their spin.

Phylo out

Medved
Medved is getting so over-the-top in his criticisms that I no longer take him seriously.

But let me set a few things straight:

Medved: "First, it ought to be obvious that the way this story unfolded re-enforces the widespread public impression that media coverage of politics is biased and slanted on behalf of liberal Democrats. A recent Rasmussen survey showed that 55% of respondents already believe that major TV networks, prestige newspapers and mass circulation magazines favor Obama and the Democrats, and as this belief hardens and spreads it will encourage voters to open their minds to the messages of the other side."

Phylo: The only reason 55% believe that is because right wing spin monkeys like Medved, Limbaugh and Hannity have been pounding this message into their listeners heads for over a decade. It's all part of a highly coordinated misinformation campaign. These guys are the propaganda wing of the military industrial complex. They want people to mistrust actual news and only trust their twisted opinions.

Last Sunday the Washington Post ran a headline saying "Obama's Economic Plan Would Balloon Debt". And in the first paragraph you learn that The Center for Tax Policy concludes that Obama's plan would increase the debt by 3.5 trillion over ten years. But in the NINTH paragraph we learn that McCain's plan would increase it by 5 trillion! Yet WaPo headlines the article "Obama plan would balloon debt". Yeah, that old liberal bias I guess.

The fact is, this scandal hurts McCain far more than Obama. It reminds everyone of how McCain cheated on his wife, who had been paralyzed in a car accident, with his current wife Cindy. The parallels are striking. (Except that, so far, Edwards has stuck with his wife.) And it reminds everyone of what a great family man Obama is.

Score this one for Obama.

Phylo out.


THE DIFFERENCE
Dhimmicrats keep people like Edwards, Ted "The Swimmer," Barney "Red Light" Franks, William "Ice Box" Jefferson, ad nauseum, in good standing.


Republicans ostracize their malefactors.


Sometimes a phony is really a phony
From the start, I felt Edwards was a complete phony, cynically positioning himself as a populist because there weren't any populists in the Dem field at the time. IMO he's an ambitious unscrupulous man willing to say anything to win. But, I admire his confessions of hubris; it's a huge danger for pols and good to see one finally speak candidly of it.

I don't see how this impacts Obama at all. IMO the Reps will be making a mistake if they try to imply Obama is like Edwards in this regard. Obama actually comes across as a relatively nice guy and trying to paint him as arrogant/hubristic isn't going to sell to swing voters.

John Kennedy got away with it but. . . .
Gary Hart did not. I have been around male stars that are nice looking and it would take the constitution of a Saint to resists the groupie sex magnet females. I am sure every wife of such a man lives with that thought and trys to adjust. Years ago I did a show staring Jerry Lee Lewis. This was my first exposure to this. My my, the sexy angels that came back stage and the little private mobile home we had for him would make any male with testerone hurt in the groin area. I am not a fan of Edwards nor a fan of infidelity but these decent looking Congressmen have to wear steel chastisy belts. When you see these wives playing Tammy Wynette and stnding by their man, it is probably to keep him away from as many honey bees as she can. She probably is close to some tattle tale folks in the campaign.

This is going to tick off a few women but the female press corps has a few ladies with round heels who are always around for a quickie.

This is a great article about the lack of loyalty to the followers and the campaign workers. Edwards and his spouse could have inadvertantly turned the election of Hillary toward Obama. Now the folks will start sniffin hard as to what hairs have been left on Obama shoulders.

I am going to put a page on this at my PoeSpirits.com website. Ya all come.
Don Jones

Mistake
Oy, I meant Medved, not Stossel.

Obama Won't Be Tainted By Edwards
In my opinion, Obama will not be tainted by the Edwards mess UNLESS Obama does a stupid thing and picks John Kerry for VP, which I understand is now a rumor. After all, this IS the man that selected Edwards for his running mate. It will just bring it all on top of Obama, especially if the mistress scandal is truly a money scandal. I watch a lot of news shows and I never heard Obama's people mention Edwards for any position although lots of media people did.

But honestly Stossel, I don't get where Edwards was a charming media genic guy. I always thought he was a little dainty much like I think Obama (Feed that guy!) is a little dainty looking. The Democrats want to know how to attract those blue collar voters? Pick a Veep that doesn't look like he wore short pants in prep school, gets his nails done once a week and prefers wind surfing to football. You know, they need a beefy tough looking guy that looks more like Democrat Bob Beckel than one who looks like Democrat Bill Maher.

Energizer Bunny keeps going and going
Was it just me or did anyone else feel like they were in some radical Muslim torture chamber being forced to read out loud the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over, again and again.

This article just kept going and repeating and going and repeating and going on and on and on.

Townhall needs to put a 2000 letter count for Medved's clums from now on. This article could have been written in one simple paragraph..the rest is all fluff and assumptions and Medved does more stretching than the olympic swimmers do before a race.

Yes Edwards is your typical egocentric mirror gazer just like Obama. Nothing new. The sad part of the story is that Medved doesn't condemn the act as much as the timing.

"The detail that makes this scandal so much worse than most other Washington melodramas of straying husbands is the fact that Con Ed apparently completed his affair and confessed it to his wife, before he launched his second campaign for the presidency."

Are sex scandals so dominant in politics that we no longer see them as destructive behavior but as simply tally marks against the opposing party? Democrats 14, Republicans 13....Woo Hoo praise those Republicans.

Morally Corrupt
The Democrate Party is morally corrupt they support most anything (while most claiming at the same time to be Christian) that goes against we should be wise in the way we vote we don't need that type of Leadership
Edwards is smug he let a lot of people down, he cheated on his wife but then what do he and his wife do they cheat on his supporters, they knew he was a fake claiming all the while too have moral's, I guess he only has moral's when he's in front of the camera. He should have to repay his supporters the money they sent him. It would be the right thing too do, but he don't like doing the right thing
Obama is one to talk about being Christian he needs to start reading his bible and not only carry it for show. He goes against God in his choices, we don't need a leader like that our children don't need to look up too a leader like that

Talk, But NO Substance
Medved, the Hollywood critic, could just as easily made a comparable link between beautiful John and McShame. This stuff has been thrown around by several pundits -- it will not wash, it has no legs, it will not make a bit of difference. Will McShame use it to expose the Demos? Not in a million votes. If Obamamama had selected Edwards it well could have made a difference but he didn't. Just ordinary slimy politicians.

Human frailty vs. lack of experience
I believe Medved's comments comparing the lack of experience in government leadership between Obama and Edwards is important as well as the obvious ego parallels. That fact that Edwards was unfaithful to his wife is just the additional proof of ego.

McCain's unfaithfulness to his first wife is equally egregious, but he has admitted that the failure of his first marriage was his fault. It also occurred after he returned from years as a prisoner of war with all the emotional problems inherent in those returned military. His marriage was troubled before he irrevocably destroyed it through the act of adultery. That it occurred long before he was involved in politics is another point, since he wasn't hiding anything when he ran for Senate.

Newt Gingrich, on the other hand, WAS hurt by his actions. I believe many people lost respect for him for his treatment of his wife and he lost his leadership in Congress, as well.

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Folks, be careful on this...
it could bite back.

Sen. McCain has his own admitted history of infidelities, and the timing of the beginning of his relationship with Cindy is questionable. His sworn testimony in the divorce would raise questions both about his own morals and his honesty - if subsequent statements are used.

Why do you think he hasn't touched the subject himself? Keep bringing it up, and you could do more harm than good.

The Democrats always
fall all over the pretty boys, without checking the content of their character or record. They also always get a case of buyer's remorse once that character or record is exposed.

In this case the Party SELECTED the silver-tonged, hansome Obama over proven work-horse, Hillary as their candidate, after they discovered that neither Hillary or Obama could reach the magic number of delegates to actually win the nomination. This from the Party that continues to babble about stolen elections in 2000 & 2004.

Edwards' tryst video?
Considering that la femme in this case is/was a videographer, do you think there could be a video lying around someplace?

I still don't understand the object of con ed's affection. I mean, she's ok for a 40 something lady, but presumably he could have had his choice of the 20 something groupies.

Gotta give him credit,though, identifying his narcissism; that's the beginning, acknowledging your lack of power over your addiction.

I hate to do it, but for once i have to agree with the leftie posters, that this won't sway many voters one way or the other.

Edwards' affair
I sense the end of this charlatan, Hussein.

Reading your own press releases
In racing we call this *reading your own press releases*. That is, a man surrounded by sycophants comes to believe that, instead of being paid to make him look good, they are representatives of the public at large. Like the child who never hears No, the first time he does not get what he wants is going to be the end of Obama. Someone who has never hit hard times (and no, the price of Yuppie Lettuce does not count) should not be president simply because hitting his first brick wall as POTUS is bad for a lot of people besides himself.

As for Edwards, his overweening sin was pride -- arrogance -- the underlying belief that he could *get away with it* no matter what *it* might be. Obama has that same personal sense of invincibility, and he has one more card in his deck -- and we all know which card that is -- in case all the Hope and Change cards fail.

Comediens are beginning to make fun of Obama. That is a good sign. Maybe this Edwards embarrassment will be a wake up call to the press.

Ranger29

Fine posts today. Look forward to more of the same.

TO MICHAEL MEDVED: Excellent,excellent and excellent.

TO ALL except "will" (the little twit is like a nat):

Always thought (and have so noted in many posts) Edwards and Obama are thisclose. Once called them the "surrender twins". It still suits both of them. Edwards WAS looking at a cabinet post. That's history. Here's a scary thought. Just think who else Obama has in mind to run the country! We gotta' keep this child out of the White House and go with McCain.

Birth Certificate/Nationality
Seconding pandm's suggestion, where are the media/Obamapologists on the issue of his legal name and possible dual-triple nationality? Is his opposition saving this for a post-convention October surprise?

It would be nice
to see an honest news reporter pry into the trysts of Hussein O & locate his birth certificate too.

It would also be nice to have an aids appreciation day, then we wouldn't have to put with the likes of Will.

Obama for VP
I think Obama is delaying his choice for VP so he can run for that too. Or maybe he can re-write the Constitution and not have one. He can do it all.

Con Ed
There's no need for Mr. Medved to besmirch a fine utility by referring to Edwards as Con Ed. I also must object to the reference to Obama's "natural athleticism". It is not possible for a person with natural athleticism to bowl a 36.

Hannah @ 1:29 AM
Exactly!

Neither Edwards or Obama have anything to bring to the table, yet both would be POTUS.

One is a Saul Alinsky disciple and the other is an ambulance chasing lawyer. How do either of those attributes qualify them for POTUS?

Notice that none of the moonbat lefties can defend Obama or Edwards. They simply start criticizing Bush and McCain instead.

Remember Foley
One of the contributing factors to the demise of the Republicans in 2006 was the Foley scandal which cast a sleezy shadow over the entire Republican party - even though most Congressmen/women had nothing to do with it. One factual error - Obama did not exactly come from modest means. He went to one of the most elite high schools in the United States.

The truth is:
the Edwards affair may have absolutley nothing to do with Barack Obama, but republicans fervently WANT it to be true... they are almost WILLING it to be true. It is like a silent deperate plea... they NEED it to be true, even though it goes against rational common sense and good judgement, because, without it, THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH EMOTIONAL AMMUNITION TO PSYCHOLOGICALLY BUTRESS THEIR MORALISTIC FERVER AGAINST OBAMA.


This is almost a yearning, like a rain prayer the republican prays to his rain God. He NEEDS the Edwards-Obama connection to carry the slack for the lack of support he feels for McCain....

Let the party without sin throw the ...
McCain my have taken "full responsibility" but he still has the young rich, trophy wife and the political career that enabled. I don't think either party has much bragging rights in this area.

There is a level of ugly cynacism in this Medved article that is clearly un-becoming for a follower of Christ.

Steve

what if the Edwards scandal
reminds people of McCain's dumping of his first invalid wife for a 40ish blond, and it ends up helping Obama?

Mike
I think you're right--If BOTH of these things had come out before Iowa, Hillary probably would be the Dem. nominee....When some in her camp suggested that Edwards' affair alone would've given her the nom I didn't agree, but both the affair AND Wright before Iowa I do believe would have made a big impact.


"Regal Lion" (what's with these names?)
You write like you think. Not very well.

I've noticed that there are a lot of Republicans who have a hard time saying anything substantive, but they're really good at making up cute names. like: Clitonista and BOOB - Obama.

By the way. Do you even know what the acronym "IQ" stands for?
I didn't think so.

And saying really smart things like as a liberal I wouldn't "have" an IQ makes you sound so much more intelligent than me. Everyone "has" an IQ Regal, yours is just really, very very low.


Will's comment
Why is it that idiot liberals like you spend all day looking around on web sites that are not ultra liberal like you. And you are so desperate to attack anyone who does not love the messiah that you will just try to make up any slanderous statement you can think of. Of course you don't think Edward's affair and child will hurt obama. You would have to have some moral standards for that. And of course it sounds like you are trying to defend your own behavior. Is this why you think what Edward's did was just fine because you do it everyday. I bet you have made several guest appearances on the Maury Povich and Jerry Springer show.

This Is Like . . .

. . . listening to a tone deaf dyslexic with a speech impediment trying to recite the Gettysburg Address.

One wants to agree with the sentiment, but the all-too-evident shortcomings of the "orator" instead make it rather embarrassing and even painful, rather than persuasive.

Go back to reviewing movies, Deadhead, and leave the heavy lifting to your betters.

It's not about infidelity...
Or who is and is not running...
Or what some classless, obsessive children project onto the columnist...
It's about the snake that is what has become of the democrats.
There never has been and never will be any escape from the simple fact that to a large degree we are known by the company we keep, and for good reason.
No party has a monopoly on infidelity or hypocrisy, but the democrats as a party have so wantonly yielded to the radical, cynical & elitist, hateful, self indulgent & insane left...
And this only further underscores the profound difference between their grossly over-inflated image and their true gutless, low-life nature.
As a party, they really have become a snake.
A spineless groveling worm.
Everything matters.

John Edwards' adulterous quagmire
... may or may not have a decisive impact on the McCain vs. Obama race. Voters are fairly evenly split, so incremental swings can make a difference and should not be discounted.

The scandal will be a subtle reminder that Obama, like Edwards, is an inconsequential Democrat seeking high office out of sheer vanity. He reminds voters that Democrats keep sending boys to do a man's job. Edwards adds another layer of tarnish to the Democrat brand.

missed the point
Some of you pretended to miss the point of this article. It's about how former Senator Edwards and Senator Obama had and have nothing to offer in their presidential runs except their monumental egos. They didn't have experience, ideas, or a grasp of what's going on. All they had was a love affair with their own self image.

But some of you never deal with this; you just change the subject with the naive idea that the rest of us won't notice.

medved
sounds like contorted logic bolstered by wishful thinking.

wink and nod
Perhaps we are now seeing the media "wink and nod" from the Camelot days where the youthful Kennedy boys had their fill of beautiful and bountiful women. Well America, you wanted it. Now you have it. Shall we prepare for the Obamamambo? A whole slew of media flunkys are ready and willing.

wes: DEMOCRATS like YOU...
gave us 8 stinking years of Bill (I never had sex with that woman...)Clitonista...

So of curse a dim-bulb like you cannnot see how John Edwards' affair could hurt your favorite BOOB - Obama!

That would require an IQ! AND as a LIBERAL you do not posess one.

Or you wouldn't be a LIBERAL!

One can only hope that we will be able
to look back on this campaign some day and say: "Wow! What were we thinking?"

This is just nuts!

Why should it hurt him?
Did McCain's tawdry sex-scapades (also known as adultery to Conservatives) with his then mistress-turned trophy wife hurt his career? NO. How about when Newt Gingrich did exactly what Edwards did to his wife while she was ill? No. Why would Edward's stupidity hurt Obama? Did Ollie North's criminal past hurt him? No. How about Bill O'Reilly's sexual harassment? Nope. Limbaugh's drug addiction? Nope. Did it hurt Geraldo Rivera when he exposed US troop movements on Fox News? no.
Dick Morris' affair with the hooker? Nu-uh. George Bush's Cocaine use or his draft evasion? Larry Craig is still in office. Michael Weiner is still on the radio.
Now ask yourself: What did Obama do that is anything close to what these right wing nut-jobs have done with no apparent ill effect's to their careers? He's a married man with two great kids and a wife who works. He's a guy who happens to be a constitutional scholar and well educated. People like and admire him all over the US and abroad.

What is wrong with you "conservatives"? Either you're intellectually dishonest or you're just dumb. Edwards' mistakes will not hurt Obama, but the fact that you guys constantly run this type of BS up the flagpole will hurt McCain.

Let's Get Relevant
Edwards is not running for anything, and only a fool would blame Obama for what Edwards (or anyone else) did.

John McCain is running, and he has an even more sordid history than Edwards. McCain, who promised to Love, Honor and Obey... 'Til Death Do Us Part, broke that pledge when he discarded his injured first wife and replaced her with someone younger, richer and more attractive.

If we must discuss infidelity, let's at least confine ourselves to people who are actual candidates.

I Say Edwards Hurts Obama
Certainly not with hardcore Obama supporters, but this sleaziness (and all the lies which just now tumbling into the light) reminds of Bill Clinton.

For the squishy center voters and down-home folks it reminds people that the last Dem prez was a lying, cheating no-good you-know-what.

Guilt by association isn't fair, but I believe Edwards'dirt gets on Obama, even if just a tad.

When there's no substance...
Image must rule the day.
When there's no character nor integrity...
Deception must prevail.
When there's no humility...
One is nothing.
And cannot long endure the light of day.

They stole Hillary's nomination
I bet Hillary can't stand that fact that she would have won the nomination if Edward's affair and Obama's pastor had come to light before Iowa.
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