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Saturday, July 26, 2008
Doug Giles :: Townhall.com Columnist
The 10 Commandments for Classy Girls
by Doug Giles
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As you well know, our toady media has made being a whore all the rage for our young daughters. They’re pushing our kids—on multiple cultural fronts—to be “empowered” sexual beastesses, and this is in spite of the plague-like spike in STDs which are saddling our kids.

Yep, who cares if our girls are getting their ovens removed when they’re 15 for fooling around, keep selling them sex, dammit! Throw rubbers at ‘em! It’ll never happen to them, even though according to the CDC 0ne in four teenage girls right now have some form of STD funk coursing through their system.

In addition to the media’s brainwashing attempts to mold our girls into brainless ditzes like one of Hef’s chicks, our culture has also made being a reality TVesque, whiny, nerve-grating, Girlicious drama queen witch wonderful as well. What has the anti-traditional values, Christianity-sucks secularists propped up for our girls to pattern? Three things, namely: 1. be spiteful, 2. narcissistic and 3. a slut. This is cultural progress for these “winners.”

In this article I’d like to spit on both targets the secularist tools have established for our females and set the bar a tad higher for our daughters with my 10 Commandments for Classy Girls.

Mom . . . Dad . . . teach your girl these ten things, and she won’t morph into a hellion who’ll drive us all insane.

Commandment 1: Don’t flaunt your advantages.

The Classy Girl doesn’t show off who she is, where she went to school or her net worth. Yeah, the bells and smells, the incense and nonsense afforded by certain advantages (earned or otherwise) don't mean a thing to a Classy Girl if used as a fig leaf to veil her utter lack of character and humility.

Let me make it simple for you: Everything that Paris Hilton, Britney, Omarosa, Lindsay, and New York (from Flavor of Love) does, do the opposite, and you will be a very pleasant and delightful young lady not hiding behind daddy’s cash, mere talent, a Bose voice processor or fifteen minutes of BS-based fame.

A girl with class understands with all the external trappings of success and achievement she can still be a cultural pain in the butt and a horrible person. Therefore, focus not upon dusting up the transient trappings which dazzle the ubiquitous morons but rather pursue the hidden qualities of internal virtues which truly makes a girl great—at least in God’s eyes.

Commandment 2: Everyone deserves respect until they demonstrate they don’t deserve it.

The Classy Girl believes that all people are created in the image of God and should be treated with respect until that person shows they don’t deserve it.

That means she doesn’t slap, spit or drop the F-bomb on her pastor, elders, teachers or parents. I asked Ted Nugent one time what he would do if one of his sons or daughters told him to F-off. Ted said, “I’d tear off their head and _______ down their throat.”

It’s amazing to watch 3, 5 and 15 year-old kids unleash their venom on their parents and others and then walk away smacking their gum. The Classy Girl respects parents, older people, teachers, police, peers and opponents—unless forced by said person to do otherwise.

Commandment 3: Titles are important.

The Classy Girl still calls her elders “sir” or “ma’am.” I’ve got friends who have adult children with families of their own who make a very nice living, are close to my age and still call me “sir.” When the Classy Girl addresses a man, it is always as “Mr. (last name)” and a woman as “Mrs.” or “Miss (last name)” until they’ve been green lighted to use their first name or nickname.

Commandment 4: Everyone else matters before you do.

The Classy Girl is here to serve, not be served. She does weird stuff like what needs to be done versus being some diva who expects everyone to wait on her. When she comes into a situation she assesses what others might need, not what she can get from people or places.

Commandment 5: Be helpful.

The Classy Girl sees a need, and if she can assist then she helps. The other day I was out in front of a Publix Supermarket and watched a burglary in progress. The guy ran out of the store, cash in hand, with the clerk and security guards chasing him. It looked fun, so I joined in the chase. The clerk and the guard ran out of juice, and I (along with a cop) got to tackle the dude and jam his face into the cement (one of those little perks God drops in your lap every now and then). Bottom line with those raised as a Classy Girl is: whether it’s with tackling a punk or packing a trunk, The Classy Girl is programmed to H-E-L-P, not hinder.

Commandment 6: Be friendly.

The Classy Girl smiles. She’s not sullen or vexed. She’s not walking around like the psycho chicks and metrosexual males in Miami in a pout pretending to be the next angry supermodel. The Classy Girl says hello and starts friendly conversations. When I take my buddies hunting with me to Texas or Alabama, they’re blown away at how friendly people are. We’ll be driving down a Farm to Market Road in the middle of nowhere, meet a truck coming the opposite direction and our host will wave. Invariably, one of my friends then asks, “Who was that?” and our host replies, “I don’t know.” Then my jaded friends give me a confused look and ask me quietly why he waved. I whisper back, “People down here are friendly . . . watch out, it might rub off on you.”

Commandment 7: Use the right words.

When asked a question, the Classy Girl doesn’t reply with “Huh?” “What?” or “Yeah.” It’s “Please,” “Thank you” or “Yes or no thank you.” She’s a girl who respectfully asks and doesn’t demand.

Commandment 8: Don’t dress like a skank.

There’s nothing wrong with a girl dressing in a cute and figure-flattering manner. However, if she wants to avoid drooling male troglodytes and be taken seriously as both a human and a woman, then she must avoid wearing stripper heels to church. The Classy Girl will send a message to the men out there by the way she dresses that she’s sophisticated and eloquent, not sleazy and easy, capisce?

Commandment 9: Don’t take nude photos of yourself or make sex tapes. Unless you want a life in the porn industry with all the “perks” of drugs, STDs, crime and masturbatory stalkers/rapists, I’d really think twice about what kind of pictures and videos of you are floating around on the internet. Lately, we have seen many aspiring young ladies have their careers derailed or their image forever whorified by the bad, bad decision of bumping uglies on film. Remember, not only is the paper patient, but so is the picture and the grainy home sex movie. These things can damage you for a long, long, long time.

Commandment 10: Develop cell phone etiquette.

First off, put your cell phone on vibrate, alright? There’s enough noise pollution in our world without us having to hear your Razor blast out Nelly Furtado at ear-splitting decibels. Secondly, quit yelling on your phone. Just because you can’t hear yourself in your cell phone’s earpiece doesn’t mean the caller can’t hear you. In addition, by speaking softly we won’t know how shallow and crazy you really are. Thirdly, if you’re going to go nuts on the phone will you walk outside, huh? Fourthly, turn it off during church, okay Jezebel? Fifthly, if you won’t text while we’re eating dinner then I won’t fart at the supper table, deal?

Father, disallow your child to act like a spoiled, rabid, egocentric animal. Make good manners and propriety a given for your girl, and I guarantee she will not attract the crotch grabbing thugs amongst us. Instill the above solid qualities into your baby, and when she grows up, she’ll thank you in spades—and she’ll be a respected, almost revered leader wherever she goes.

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Doug Giles’ new book “If You're Going Through Hell, Keep Going!" is now available. Ann Coulter says "Doug Giles is a substantive and funny tour de force for traditional values.” Doug’s talk show and video blog can be seen and heard at www.ClashRadio.com.
 
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ARE THESE "NOTES FROM HELL"?
I thought I was the one who lived in hell which all "quality" people sneer at, fear, avoid and pile upon: an "inner ring" suburb of a megapolis overrun by illegal aliens and the filth, rats, crime and ignorance they brought along with them.

The behavior you describe is something I observe among the ignorant, low-class, "poor" subgroups of the inhabitants of the city and close-in suburbs. I also see it any time I flip channels of the over-the-air, free TV in hope of something decent and interesting to watch once in a while.

What is horrifying that you and your readers see that behavior in your immediate environment, even in churches. My friends make the same reports after visiting their family and friends in the desirable outer suburbs.

Assuming that the demographics of your readers do not reflect the bottom half, it seems that the problems you describe are rampant even among the economically affluent "middle" and "upper middle" class that has ridden the coat-tails of their often blue-collar, inner-ring suburbs and city dwelling parents who left them enough assets not to have to start from scratch and be able to move away from the "city" problems.

As Theodore Dalrymple points out, the upper classes have assumed downward cultural aspirations. He also "argues that the so-called 'progressive' views prevalent within Western intellectual circles minimize the responsibility of individuals for their own actions and undermine traditional mores, contributing to the formation within rich countries of an underclass afflicted by endemic violence, criminality, sexually transmitted diseases, welfare dependency, and drug abuse.

He contends that the middle class abandonment of traditional cultural and behavioral aspirations has, by example, fostered routine incivility and ignorance among members of the working class."


Wow
alright.
I'm an 18 year old woman. I am very upset that you can take all females and gender steriotypically categorize us.
First of all, not ALL girls are what they show in the media, obviously they only show the girls who cause drama.
Second of all, it's really rude, and offensive that you assume that ALL teenage girls aren't taught acceptable behaviors by their parents, and are just ditzy brainwashed teens.
I myself from age 13- to now, have raised myself. I don't have a cell phone, I don't trash people, and I'm not impolite. My dad sent this article to me... Probably assuming that I'm just like "all the other girls". When really if he would actually take the time to get to know me, he'd know that I'm a good person. Yeah, I have my lip pierced and I don't go to church... Yeah I hang out with "weird" people with piercings and tattooes. But does that honestly make them any less of a person. you conservative jerks need to realize that what's socially acceptable is way different that what was in to 1900's.
You deminished all young ladies and woman. And to hell with you, I'll spit at you if I want to. If you're allowed to make all these inaccurate judgements, then I can surely correct you on them.

Ken
But abstinence programmes fail dangerously.

Stuart

Stu
"It has attempted to deliver worse than useless abstinence programmes"

"Worse than useless"? Abstinence works every time it is tried.

Guess what, Doug?
Guess what, Doug? You don't have to be a conservative to cultivate any or all of these values in your daughters. It's called "being a good parent," although I know I'm supposed to buy into the idea that only conservatives can be good parents. Well, my daughters, now 23 and 21, were raised by....gasp....two liberal parents, and they aren't acting like whores. Actually, most girls and young women are not acting like whores in our society. Although Doug is so interested in this topic that I'll bet he can spot 'em a couple of miles away....

Classy? Who needs to be classy?
"I asked Ted Nugent one time what he would do if one of his sons or daughters told him to F-off. Ted said, “I’d tear off their head and _______ down their throat.”

Saying you would rip your kid's head off and stuff it down their throat...now that is classy. I guess classiness doesn't apply to Ted Nugent. Only young girls need to be classy...this rule simply doesn't apply to anyone else.

Don Quixote
Remember Don Quixote, who always treated Aldonza as a lady even when she screamed at him that she was not any kind of a lady? Because he treated her as the lady he saw within, she became that lady.

I think if we want more ladies and gentlemen in this world, we have to start treating each other as if we are already ladies and gentlemen. Raise the bar and maintain standards even when others do not. Sooner or later they will respond.

Feminine Behavior
Excellent Article
Reminds me of Diana West's book 'Death of the Grownup'.
Keep repeating te obvious facts.
Immaturity has the potential to destroy civilization.
Regards
Dwight M. Broadstone

du and Audi
"typical Giles, putting the onus of sexual responsibility and modesty on girls"

Giles addressed what a girl says and wears in this article. If SHE is not to determine what she says and wears, who should?

My biggest gripe with the worst of feminism is it wants privilege without responsibility. Women cannot go around dressing and behaving in ways that reflect negatively on them, and then complain that they are perceived negatively. It cannot be had both ways.

Audi is dead on accurate. Her idea of feminism is very consistently RAISING the bar equally for both genders. She expects men to be raised to the standards women have been held to. The worst of feminism LOWERS the standard for women to the levels of the "boys will be boys" undisciplined sexuality without consequences.


respect for women
I work in the IT industry and have found that almost all of the men I work with practice chivalrous manners with women. They hold doors open, allow you to enter and exit the elevator first, offer a chair, carry things, etc. It's not just courteous, it's professional.

So the 10 Commandments for boys should be how to treat women with courtesy. Not like the high school boy who ran into my daughter in the hallway at school and called her a b***h.

Wendy
"If everyone else matters before the girl does, then why would she resist the advances of some baggy-pants turd? To her, he IS others, and she is supposed to "assess what he might need."

I am going to assume this statement is not satire-if it is, my bad. But of course, what you just described is not a need and the whole point of this article is about sending a very clear unspoken message that she demands respect as something other than a sexual object.

"If everyone else matters before she does, then on what grounds can she exercise independent judgment and discrimination? If their needs come first, then she is wrong to say that she has to look out for her interests, too. You have the recipe for a doormat."

There is a huge difference between a legitimate need and an interest. That's why even you choose two different terms to distinguish between the two, although based on the first quote I cited, you seem to be fuzzy on what is actually a need.

Selflessness=doormat is a myth commonly promoted by the worst of feminism. I do notice though that they expect it from men. Some of the toughest women you will ever meet are self sacrificing women who meet the needs (real needs, not made up needs invented by whiners) of the most needy and desperate people all over the world.

AudiR10
I quite agree; this goes both ways. I think some of your commandments show how far men have slipped on this issue. I held a door open for a woman with a small child a couple of days ago, and she looked at me as if I had three heads. I was saddened at the thought that what I thought to be courteous behavior was mis-interpreted by someone simply because they couldn't recognize it for what it was.

The 10 Commandments for Classy Girls
Loved the article, except, when you mention what you won't do at the dinner table, you dropped the other f-bomb. F-rt is even more offensive than its sexual counterpart, because the subject itself is offensive, not just the word. I'm amazed at how many otherwise classy people forget this.

The Wave
A few years ago we bought some land, a little over 10 acres, in the northern tip of New Hampshire. While driving around up there I couldn't believe my eyes!! People you didn't know actually waving at you as you pass!! I thought I was having a flashback to the NH of my childhood; times like when my grandmother would take me on long country drives and introduce me to many an old farmer. No offense to you if you're from Mass. or NY State, but that friendly, "put others before yourself" attitude went away when folks from these urban areas with a "me first, who the he!! are you" perspective arrived. If it was the religion of my grandmother's generation that made them the decent, wonderful, human beings that they were, then I say secularism has brought us backwards, acting like animals, then forwards, as people acting in the best interests of our families and our communities. They believed that all of us need to acknowledge that there are many things in life (a great many) larger than ourselves.

Reassuing tips
Doug,

Coming from South Asia (I'm a guy in my early 30's), I've often addressed older people in the US with a "Sir" or "Madam" (can't help it -- it's typical in eastern cultures). I've often wondered if some of my etiquette was archaic and obsequious. Thanks to your article, I'm really happy to know that these qualities are still considered "classy". After being exposed to too much TV and movies, I've often questioned my sense of right and wrong and if my "value syatem" is totally outmoded. You have no idea how reasssuring your article is.

Well done, AudiR10
AudiR10 is one of my favorite commenters here on TH, except that on the subject of gender relationship she's usually horribly cynical about males.

Today, however, is different. A list of Classy Boy rules is entirely appropriate for this thread, and deserves recognition. Well done, Ma'am.

I have to day, thought, that my attempts to offer seats and hold doors for modern women has sometimes been met with pretty ugly accusations. It doesn't surprise me that most men don't even dare try anymore. I'm afraid we have to blame aggressive feminists, not rude men, for the lack of courtesy in the modern marketplace.

(Unrelated to this topic, please visit my political blog, "Plumb Bob Blog: Squaring the Culture," at http://www.plumbbobblog.com. Click on my nickname and follow the links on my townhall blog. Thanks.)

AudiR10
The only problem I have with your 10 commandments for boys is the one where they should address women as "Ma'am". Here in Northern California, women normally get offended by this term. Rarely do you hear people addressed as "sir" or "ma'am". I think it is just a cultural difference though.

The habitual mistake
Gestell writes of his repeated misrepresentations of conservatism:

"Actually, I accept conservative understandings of conservatism... The sketch I offered of how conservatives should (even if they don't) view such things as votes for women, equality in the workplace, rights for minorities, etc. is based on what I contend (and I challenge you to show me that I'm incorrect) from acknowledged conservative political thinkers."

Yeah, this is the lie Gestell tells every day. And notice how he shifts the burden of proof, like the anti-intellectual little coward that he is: he asserts what HE interprets major conservatives to mean, without citing or quoting -- and then tries to make it OUR burden to prove him wrong. Thus he allows himself to defame better men than three of himself could ever be, and accepts no responsibility for defending his defamation.

Gestell, you're a zero. Why not just go get a job, and stop hanging around telling lies about good men?

Yay AudiR10!
Doug Giles always writes these columns in pairs, one for females and one for males, and I'm sure his Classy Boys column was coming soon (just because he didn't do both at once does NOT mean he hates women and is a misogynist, nor that only women need to be classy). Still, I'm glad you wrote yours.

I love number 10. It's so true, and I wish more people would realize it. Some of the best gentlemen I ever met were Trekkers, and you know, with all the tacky stuff that comes out of "Hollyweird" and the rest of show business, I don't recall any classless behavior from the members of ABBA, despite their costumes.

Classy Boys II
6. Classy Boys never bandy a lady's name about. No matter what they may know or suspect about a girl, they keep it to themselves.

7. Classy Boys open the car door and help the lady out of the Lamborghini. [Really Classy Boys find another way to refuse her desire to drive said Lambo besides bursting into laughter.] This is an art and does not involve grabbing both wrists and hauling her out as if she is freight.

8. Classy Boys do not treat waitresses, salespeople, ticket collectors or border security as if they are scullery maids in a Victorian Household. Classy Girls do not find this masterful or manly; they find it tacky.

9. Classy Boys do not swear, curse, blaspheme or use Opprobrious Epithets in the presence of ladies. In fact, they maintain their gentlemanly demeanor even in the presence of females who are not ladies. Remember, Mama is Watching.

10. Classy Boys are still classy when they are dressed in ABBA jump suits and platform shoes, or Klingon uniforms, or speedos.

Classy Girls
To put this in simpler terms: If you want to be classy, act classy.

Classy Boys?
Are there any left?

1. Classy Boys give their seats to females, whether those females be 2 years old or 92. Classy Boys do NOT snark off "Well YOU wanted to be liberated!" at women old enough to be their grannies, or pretend to be asleep, or elbow girls and women or shove them in order to grab the last seat on the subway car.

2. Classy Boys never refer to a woman older than they are as "Honey" or "Sweetie", or use "Grandma" as an insult. "Ma'am" is the word you were looking for. This includes salesmen, doctors, lawyers, bus conductors and church ushers as well as simple citizens.

3. Classy Boys never tell girls that they have to have sex every day or they'll die. They also never respond to a girl's NO by calling her a lesbian.

4. Classy Boys establish the protocol regarding payment BEFORE they reach the venue or the cheque arrives. No Classy Boy would EVER get to the movie theatre and THEN inform his date that he didn't intend to pay for her ticket.

5. Classy Boys NEVER charge gifts to the girl's account. Never ever.

Gestell
We are not IN the early 20th century, nor even the late 20th century. Political ideologies change over time.

Ronald Reagan said he didn't change - the Democratic Party changed. So, if they can, why aren't the Republicans allowed the same right to change?

Or would you color all Republicans as Tories, because they were the conservative party at the time? If that were the case, we'd still be wanting to pay taxes to the British monarchy, because that's what "real conservatives" believe.

classy girls
You seem to believe that it's only secular liberals who have raised these daughter you abhor. I would be willing to bet that many many of these girls come from upper class, highly "conservative" families.
Also, whose responsibility is it to raise a child: the media's or the parents? Regardless of political beliefs, a parent with morals ( and yes a secular humanist CAN be quite moral)it is up to the parent to instill the proper values.

reply to Right Makes Might
Actually, I accept conservative understandings of conservatism. That's my whole point about the theoretical illiteracy of many present-day conservatives. The sketch I offered of how conservatives should (even if they don't) view such things as votes for women, equality in the workplace, rights for minorities, etc. is based on what I contend (and I challenge you to show me that I'm incorrect) from acknowledged conservative political thinkers. Among these are Russell Kirk, M.E. Bradford, Richard Weaver, the Southern Agrarians, and just about anybody who wrote for "National Review" and "Human Events" until the 1970s. Early Bill Buckley should be included as well--he was no fan of the civil rights movement. If you go back to the early 20th century, you'll find plenty of conservative opponents of woman suffrage as well.

Conservatism is not just whatever you personally happen to want it to be. If it is a political ideology, it has characteristic doctrines that may be considered an orthodoxy. Too many American conservatives today just want to wing it and make things up as they go along.

Gestell
Please stop presuming to tell us what we believe – especially when you’re consistently as wrong as can be. Your fatal mistake seems to be in accepting the left-wing definition of conservatism.

As an actual conservative, I can tell you that our lodestar is the rights of the individual person, whose value can never be subordinated to some group identity. If you keep that in mind when trying to understand us, your accuracy rating should take an amazing jump. Heck, you might even discover that you’re one of us.

Great Column - Birdman II's comments
Your comment "It appears that the morality of a nation rests upon the women." I totally agree. We have two sexes - we are equal BUT we are different. Women cannot expect to act like men, then be treated like women. Yes, there is a double standard, but it's a GOOD double standard. Ladies, do you really want a feminized man? We cannot command respect from men by acting like men ourselves. Let's not buy into the "Sex In the City" mentality. Let's celebrate being the wonderful women we are!

Right Makes Might
Yes and no.

I did have a bit of satire in mind. So I just my rage and zeal pour out.

However, I also believe in what I said, to some small extent.

The alienation of the secular constitutionalists, the atheist, and many others by the so called American right is what is holding back MANY MANY minorities(racial, religious, and other) from joining the republican party, or at least considering voting for them.

And this is the biggest folly of the average(christian) conservative.

I wanted RON PAUL for president, and I am a registered Democrat!

So Ill just continue to do my same political-forum routine Ive always done;

Shock, then explain more clearly when I have enough attention.

Those people who are truly concerned with reduction of government presence in private affairs, usually, are interested in what I have to say(the calm, explaining part, not the flaming, shock-value part).

is
Is this what women shoudl be doing? If it wasn't for all the religious stuff, this article would make sense.


replies to saltydog and Mountain Rose
I notice neither of you really wants to offer arguments against my position.You probably think I'm just making up all kinds of nasty stuff about conservatism. This is because both of you, like so many other conservatives these days, know very little about real conservatism. Real conservatives always tried to hold the line against giving votes to women, blacks, etc. And real conservatives opposed all of the atention that "victims" like the disabled have gotten in our society. And we know where most conservatives stand on gays to this day.

So, get with your own ideological program and start opposing the things that conservatives should oppose!

Number 2 alone worth 5 stars
Everybody should have commandment #2 tattooed on his/her person (figuratively, of course – the current tattoo epidemic is beyond revolting.) I’m sick to death of hearing how people have to do this, that, or the other thing to “earn” respect.

Wrong, wrong, wrong! As Doug correctly stated, every person is entitled to your respect as a fellow child of God, until they behave so egregiously that they earn disrespect.

Challenger to Loyal Democrat?
Eduardo,

I’m gonna give you the benefit of the doubt, and assume that you’re laying a satirical post on us.

All but the last paragraph...
Doug, I was shouting "Amen!" with you right up until the last paragraph. The truth is that the classy girls are for the most part ignored in our society these days, because there are so few classy men. But I can tell you from experience that it's better to walk through life alone with your self respect, than to be saddled with a loser with no class.

Jenn

my teenage
daughter knows that if she fools around there will be one less boy in her life. I dont care if she says yes, I said no. Luckily though, she is doing great in school, has no desire for tatoos and hates talking on the phone.
And if you think calmly talking to your child after he/she tells you to go ****yourself, then you can wonder why he/she punched your face in when you "disrespected"

Thanks to Bill Clinton
indeed. I still do not understand how the Clintons can show their face in public.
Perhaps there should be a commandment added for grown ups - parents, etc. teach your young lady, etc.
Just because a person climbs the social, political or business ladder - and reaches the top - they do not automatically become role models.

More bull from the so called "right"
More asinine attempts to enforce "white" protestant morality as law.

As far as I can see, every single one of these girls IS PROTESTANT!

And the ones doing to the encouraging...

...ALSO PROTESTANTS!

Get your crap straight, I have no interest in girls who assume to know the origin of EVERYTHING!

Not to mention those who believe in the treasonous merger of religion and state.

Mountain Rose
Were you a production assistant on that show or something?

you
I THINK YOU ARE AN IDIOT WHO RAN OUT OF THINGS TO SAY! MAC

Gestell
I suppose it should be obvious as well the self-destructiveness of neoliberalism's ideology.

Ms. Rose Points out CBSs tendency to go the route of the NYT in a vain attempt to promote their ideology.

The prevision of sex and the demand for its acceptance are other examples of this self-destructive behavior.

daughters as whores
i have three daughtersd all growed up . had sex ed starting in ist grade and earlier then that at home. turned out to be pefectly fine young ladies, with nice familes greatkids. what have you done to your dughters =s that a=you are so worried about them becoming whores . if you nedd advice about how to raise them to be either way let me know. ill send you some.

Rush had this problem.
Shortly before he and Martha divorced her 16 year old daughter was pestering for a TONGUE STUD!! He had no clue why she was so adamant about getting one. Then as a gentle clue somebody called and told him to rent "Pulp Fiction" and Rosanna Arquette would explain it.

I can imagine when he found out it was to allow her to perform better oral sex he hit the ceiling and Martha probably tried to pass it off as a harmless fad. I can't imagine any girl getting her tongue pierced unless she means to make use of the stud.

-Ray

Jrsygrl
you're right on target.

If our daughers are neither taught nor expected to hold to high standards because their moms are trying to hang on to their fading youths via plastic surgery and the latest sk*ank fashions, how can we expect them to do any differently?

I can't tell you how many of these females I've seen at their boys' ball games looking like they're on the prowl-and what must their sons think?

Kids of either sex will ultimately do what we do, not what we say.

Why make noise about nastiness
on television?

Because the networks have proven that when we simply change the channel, they are willing to absorb bad ratings for the sake of their political agenda.

However, when we make a big public stink about the garbage that they show, and when we, in large numbers, insist that we would watch the tube if they put something on that WE want to watch, they have a hard time explaining THAT to the stockholders.

If we stay quiet and just vote with eyeballs only, the stockholders get treated to a series of lies that make their heads spin.

Make some noise about what is happening to the entertainment industry, or else don't complain about programming!

This includes calling the sponsers of questionable shows and raising the roof!

Gestell
Actually, when women get married and have children, they tend to become conservative, so the reason that there are so many libster women is because they have been brainwashed by the activist Left to stay single until they are too long in the tooth to attract a man or have a baby.

reply to AndyR
Sorry, but Orangemoon is the real conservative here. He understands that none of the things conservatives gripe about when it comes to the looks, style, behavior, and morals of American women would have developed as far as they have if women had not been given the vote, allowed to be competitive in the workplace, and so on.

Real conservatives should regret the day that women got the vote, or got access to the executive suite. As for Margaret Thatcher, yes, in a genuinely conservative world, she would have stayed home and fixed dinner for her family. I know this sounds harsh, but conservatism, rightly understood, should challenge a whole lot of the things that most Americans take for granted, starting with equal rights for women and going on from there. Most conservatives don't really have the stones or the brains to face up to what their ideology truly requires. If they did, the "rights revolution" would not have happened--and I include under this banner blacks, women, the disabled, gays, you name it. There was once a time in America when none of those groups had a fraction of the rights they do now. And holding onto the values of the past is what conservatism should be all about.

More about Moonlight
BTW if anyone is interested in seeing what I am talking about, the 16 episodes of Moonlight are available at Amazon Unbox, and can be downloaded for less than $2 per episode (because of no commercials the shows run around 45 minutes each).

The show is not only a wholesome alternative to the immoral tripe usually seen on TV, it is also very well written, and has outstanding production values.

Swingtown, the immoral replacement for Moonlight, has been described by Wikipedia in this manner:

"Swingtown is an American television series created by Mike Kelley. The pilot was directed by Alan Poul. The show is a period and relationship drama about the impact of sexual and social liberation in 1970s American suburban households, with story arcs involving open marriages and key parties..."

If you are interested in finding a concrete way to stand up for traditional values, I suggest that you contact CBS regarding this disgraceful decision. Of course, I recommend viewing an episode or two of Moonlight before you stand up for it, but at the very least everyone should be complaining about Swingtown.

One small catch...
Almost half of all homes don't have a father to impart these fundamental rules to their daughters (and similar ones to their sons) and the result is visible all around us. Until society starts valuing fathers for something more than wealth transfer, our children are going to operate without the rule setting that fathers naturally bring to the family dynamic.

CBS Dumps People's Choice Winner
In favor of a show about 1970s "Swingers," and another show about a woman with a long string of ex husbands.

Yes, it is true, that Moonlight, a popular show about a Vampire Private Eye with a heart of gold, won the latest People's Choice Award for Most Popular New Drama by a margin of about 90%.

Vampire Mick St. John only drinks blood purchased from the blood bank, and in between solving crimes and fighting evil, is involved in a sweet, old-fashioned love story with a mortal woman that he saved.

Airing on Friday nights, when many people are out on the town, Moonlight nevertheless had about 8 million fans.

However, CBS, not expecting Moonlight to be successful, already had plans to replace the show in the spring with a show called "Swing Town," about a group of swingers in the 1970s whose hobby is casual sex with everyone they know.

In the Fall CBS also plans to replace Moonlight with a show called "The Ex List" about a woman who has a string of ex husbands.

Swing Town tanked on Thursday nights, so CBS tried to put it on Fridays, and is currently attracting HALF the eyeballs as Moonlight, but the executive who made the decision keeps giving lame excuses to the public.

Meanwhile, the fans of Moonlight have organized into an internet mob of digital pitchfork-and-torch bearing peasants.

Because of CBS's agenda to push immorality down the throats of American viewers, executives are refusing to relent, in spite of the fact that the replacement shows are not popular.

I personally believe that the real reason for eliminating Moonlight is because of the old-fashioned values it represents, the emphasis on the ethics of the characters, and the fact that the men are manly heroes, and the women are romantic and feminine.

Will CBS value its ratings over its agenda? Or will it stick with the course of slow suicide?

Only time will tell.

The foundation is all-important
This good advice for girls should be placed atop a foundation of genuine commitment to the principles of God's covenant of spiritual salvation as defined by Christ Jesus in Luke 9:23 ff. Otherwise, all you have is a pretty little legalist who will not hesitate to abandon those rules when it is to her selfish advantage to do so. Spiritual reality is prior to and must be central to everything else for a young lady or gentleman to experience real life, and isn't this what we really want for out children?

I can not remember how many young girls
have said to me "they don"t make men like my husband any more" and from observation they are right.
I mean classy ladies.

Thinking vs. obeying
The problem with this column is that all the remedies are superficial. What is being advocated here is merely what we used to call "manners." They are not fundamental. They develop behavior patterns, not minds. What children, particularly girls in our culture, need is a proper philosophy to develop their mental faculty.

The only foray into philosophical development in this column turned out to be an abject failure: "Commandment 4: Everyone else matters before you do."

If everyone else matters before the girl does, then why would she resist the advances of some baggy-pants turd? To her, he IS others, and she is supposed to "assess what he might need." If everyone else matters before she does, then on what grounds can she exercise independent judgment and discrimination? If their needs come first, then she is wrong to say that she has to look out for her interests, too. You have the recipe for a doormat.

I argue the opposite. The child should come first, but not their whims. In other words, teach the child to be rational. The child should not hesitate to regard herself as an end in herself, fully deserving of rights and not subordinate to others in a moral or metaphysical sense. Parents should teach self-discipline and manners as a corollary to achieving their legitimate goals. The child will learn independent judgment and develop self-esteem if you guide their mental development properly.

Orangemoon
"Feminization of men and women becoming more masculine began with the fairer sex getting the right to vote a century or so ago."

Really? So Margaret Thatcher was a huge mistake to Britain, was she? Not only could she vote, but she was actually in charge. And she was pretty masculine too - actually getting lessons to make her voice lower.

Would you have kept her in the kitchen and out of politics?

Nugent
"I asked Ted Nugent one time what he would do if one of his sons or daughters told him to F-off. Ted said, “I’d tear off their head and _______ down their throat.”"


Well he sounds like a real 'classy guy'! How's about calmly explaining to her why her behaviour is unacceptable. Violent swearing dads will have violent swearing daughters.

du
sodomy is the ultimate "lack of class."

Good remarks for your area..............
Philippe
Location: VA
Reply # 32
Date: Jul 27, 2008 - 12:56 PM EST Subject: Relax Bitches

Not every school district is identical, I live in one that was once a very good district but as certain coultures can now afford to live in my area, the schools standards have dropped drastically. We had a nice condomenium complex not far but in the distric that AMHA bought and moved 24 inner city families on support into so they would get better education.
Several fights and two rapes later the schools administrators have told us they can do little about it because of the civil rights of the students are being denied.
One guess as to these less fortunates are. Trash promotes more trash and so on, untill we have nothing but trash, because our laws have been undone to protect the criminal elements of society.

The Satanic Laws of Advertising.........
concord2123
Location: NH
Reply # 34
Date: Jul 27, 2008 - 1:06 PM EST Subject: Dawn
Be a parent a tell your kids straight up, you get something you could have prevented by saying `NO', then YOU suffer for it. It is cold brutal and hard but it works.
Tell your daughters the truth, that all boys want at age 13-30 is a trophy and sex. If your a trophy then your not the daughter I raised to think and be herself.
To your son if you want to treat all girls as a whore then I dare you to say it to your mother, and I'll take you out now and save myself some headaches.
I showed my son how to be respectful to alady and to carry protection, if one of them types came into your life. If they act like a whore and want it, let me not judge or be judged but protect yourself from future heart ache with an unwanted child, unwanted marriage or ex girl friend that ruins your life for ever.
I agree with Doug on this, advertisers and the media want our youth to be third world or worse so it is easier to controll them.

Dawn
But in that same vein, all the lecturing about abstinence isn't going to stop people from having sex. Better to tell them not to do it, and the reasons why, but also to educate them on how to make it safe if they're going to.

Better Than Saudi Arabia, But
All societies have been built primarily by men, including all western countries. There have been some great exceptions, such as Madame Currie.

For a couple of generations, western nations have experienced steep declines due to social disintegration. Much fewer successful marriages, family abandonment, a decrease in the number of traditional men, and a steep drop in the birthrate.

Feminization of men and women becoming more masculine began with the fairer sex getting the right to vote a century or so ago. The tipping point into societal decline is when a nation becomes more feminine than masculine. This has happened to every empire, including the United States.

Is it too late for native born Americans to get their act together? The US government has come to that conclusion.

Relax Bitches
This article is pretty useful. with a little editing and a less patronizing tone. u could actually get through to the female youth and teach them how to be classy girls. However by using the same pseudo malicious language young girls use [ala christian curse words nshit] ur biased statements will get you no where...cut the demeanning downtalking and like a classy girl speak respectfully to those who need help. NOT ALL Girls today are mindless self indulgent sluts thanks.

Sexist
And the boys? Just saying.

Which pretty much makes Giles a sexist and a misogynist.

But, what else would one expect from conservatives.

I am somewhat involved with the education system and the answer to the child behavior problems so rampant in the public education system is: taa daa, Parents!

Parents are the ones who let their children watch endless television and grow obese.

Parents are the ones who buy the "Wii", "XBox" and "Playstation" and let their children play endless video games and grow obese.

Parents are the problem, just ask any educator.

And, no surprise hear, children of *conservative* parents are just as troublesome. The are just as sexually active as kids from liberal parents.

I remember I was raised with something on the order, "best to get your own house in order before trying to right those of others."

Given the correct answer to problem children is getting parents more involved, parents disciplining their children and not entertaining them, one can only surmise Giles wrote this article because he hates women.

A classic conservative, sexist through and through.

If Mr. Giles
were an English teacher, he could write an article on oxymorons entitled "Classy Boys". It's futile to write such an article. Boys will be boys(they can't help it) but he's trying to prevent girls from acting like boys.

Should the message really be...
respect yourself and others? Nothing but positive can flow from that and it applies to everyone. Of course it is not as gratifying as calling out sluts and whores is it?

Lead by example Giles.

Well said, Jrsygrl...
I can't believe there haven't been more comments concerning the "grey-haired teenybopper" Moms that seem to be everywhere, and the tremendous responsibility they bear in flooding society with dysfunctional, skanky girls. Like you said, the chances at normal lives of girls raised by such foolish mothers are very slim.

Gile's misogyny
typical Giles, putting the onus of sexual responsibility and modesty on girls.

When I was younger, there wasn't a name on sexual harassment from boys, no name for the seduction and pressure from legal majority MEN... a young woman, no matter how classy or modest...has no protection from sexual predators who no woman could physically defend herself from.

So, why DO young adult males go after girls of 14, 16? Could it be less defenses?
Why DO rapists get paroled? Why do WOMEN who seduce male teens practically get a medal for their activity?

There is a tone of submission to females being held accountable for, and no doubt, girls of low enough self esteem are the most vulnerable, or seductive.
But boys and men can say no too, and back off, she ain't property.

But the fathers, and men in general don't seem too worried about making EACH OTHER be held responsible for THEIR lack of class!

correct
That was supposed to say "fact", not "face".

A point brought home by this column
I have no children, but I mean to in the future. Mr. Giles' analysis on how to forestall abhorrent characteristics in daughters causes me to reflect on how I'd raise my own, and I realize a strange thing. I am not a Christian, but it strikes me that a Christian framework may in face provide the best template for raising children.

As an atheist, I am still able to appreciate the differences between right and wrong (good and evil, if you prefer), but I think it may be dangerous to assume my children will share this ability. I cherish freedom of thought and expression, and simply wasn't born with the ability to experience "faith".

I'd like to instill that same resistance to dogma in my children, but I don't want them running around like unhinged lunatics. The question, then, is how to raise moral yet secular children?

Well...
Commandment 4 is a little creepy. And you might want to throw in something along the lines of Be Careful. In Los Angeles, smiling at strangers can set the stage for a situation that a young girl might not know how to handle. At our middle school, predators literally wait just beyond school property for kids to come out at 3:20.

Great column
It appears that the morality of a nation rests upon its women. If the women tolerate and hand out sexual favors for beastial conduct, then the nation will devolve into a pack of animals. OTOH when women insist on civilized conduct, civilized men seem to evolve. And if ALL women insisted on absolute morality, then our nation would revert back to a moral standard.

Forsythia; I agree with you…
…on this point. The word of choice about showing respect "until that person shows they don't deserve it." Is called ATTATUDE. They say “WHY YOU GOT ATTATUDE WITH ME” and the only reason that happens is because you opened your mouth and a word came out! How dare a parent open there mouth and have words come out. That will; in most of today’s children, set them off faster than greased lightning and be ready to fight. That word “ATTATUDE” is the marshaling cry to start a war because you disagreed with them in the first place. What we as parents should do is teach them respect for others in the first place however today; respect for others is no longer a subject in school or by the parents at home. Somehow it has got twisted to I demand respect; oh even though I have not earned it. That is how screwed up this country has gotten! Last I was aware respect is something earned…

The 10 Commandments for…
The 10 Commandments for…anyone wanting to be a decent and respected human being.

I like it
Great stuff I have 3 young blokes under my roof and I must teach them not to marry some freak of nature posing as a woman

Classic Fearmongering
Wow, this is disturbing. Do you really think all American girls are like that and this is what the media is trying to do? That is just flat out wrong. I'm sorry, but it is.

I've studied media effects. And this may come as a shock to you, but most girls are not sluts or whores. In fact, teen sexual activity has declined steadily along with overall teen deviance. It's been going down for a long time. The reason people like Lohan and Hilton get media attention is because their behavior is not the norm. And it's titillating so the media likes to cover it because we're human.

No studies have shown an increase in teenage rebelliousness to their parents. I also noticed you didn't cite any so that leads me to believe you're just making baseless claims. And that's very dishonorable, which is a commandment that should probably be up there.

Face it, you're just playing the part of fearmonger. You're doing just what the media always does and makes a hasty generalization from a select segment that is arousing to certain people. That's not news nor is it a trend. It's just dishonest.

Dear DCR Ummm...
You must be new to Mr. Giles? The fact that you want to view this through a gender neutral prism of political correctness speaks to the very core of the issue he is addressing.
I am sure he will do a follow up for boys and men, he typically writes in this manner.

Good Grief!

You Didn't Mention Sex...
All the things you described leads girls to have sex. Thanks to Bill Clinton, children in grades schools across the nation are having oral sex as early as fourth grade. Elementary school girls are reported to be on urine stained floors IN THE BOYS BATHROOM - GIVING ORAL SEX! Everything on television tells our children to have sex. The movies project behavior as if std's don't exist. Now there is music our telling our girls to be LESBIANS! The darkness of our times is evident in these "green" movies and tv show. Have you noticed that everythings, since The Matrix looks like it's being shot through a green filter? The color they use to identify poison. There is no bright true-life color anymore. Our children are taught to be sullen sluts when they are forced to view the world "through a glass darkly."

Hmmmm.
Are men exempt from these? Why? Should not this article be for classy people?

Classy men
There are plenty of "classy" well-educated young men in contemporary US Society. However, given the fact that gender feminists have taught women how to employ children as "financial assets" that they "own", which results in women filing for over 70% of all divorces, quite a few young men of any quality or intelligence are avoiding marriage like the plague. Unfortunately, there are very few "classy women" these days who would merit a young man assuming that kind of risk.

Condoms?
This is a littlie rough around the edges but does contain a lot of no-brainer no-nonsense.

Re: previous post:

The one-in-four with some kind of STD is pretty accurate. And it's amazing people are still promoting condoms.

Here's the truth nobody will look at.

All the teaching about condoms in the world won't make them use them.

People HATE using condoms. They hate having to be inhibited in any way during the sexual act.

They love the risk involved, too. For many unmarrieds, having sex is synonymous or at least "harmonious" with taking risks: risk of pregnancy, risk of an STD, risk of upsetting someone else who might learn about the sexual encounter. Sex in this day is not about love between two starry eyed kids. It's about the satisfaction of scoring and of climax, and the thrill of risk.



Correction: Commandment #12
Take responsibility for your own actions. Don't blame a mythical "Patriarchy" for the negative outcomes that result from your poor life choices.

Subject: Commandment #12
Take responsibility for your own actions. Don't blame a mythical "Patriarchy" for the negative outcomes that result form your poor life choices.

Joseph
You're right on Commandment #11. But the classy guys are fewer and fewer because they are less and less in demand. If a higher percentage of girls were classy girls and demanded classier guys, the classier guys would appear. For better or worse, guys do what it takes to get the girl. What girls demand from boys, they will ultimately get. If all girls decide they will only date guys who walk on their hands, sell any stock you hold in shoe companies.

This isn't true for young men?
Aldous Huxley wrote a horrible warning, not a blueprint.
MRBMRB, as usual, you are incorrect. How on earth did you ever manage to write a post without a misspelling?

What about the lack of "classy" moms
A problem that has been overlooked here is the "hooker" styled moms raising girls today. A few years back I asked my husband, "when did it become fashionable to dress like a hooker?" I'm not a prude, and like fashion, but what I see passing for fashion is scary. Fake boobs, fake lips, "tramp stamps" (and those are the moms)... some girls don't even have a chance. I know you can't always judge a book by its cover, but I also know that a cover very often gives you a glimpse as to what is inside.

Commandment # 11
With your mom or dad take the boys out to the shooting range on the first date, and with out words prove to them that you'll or your parents change them from a gander to a goose at the first attempt of going too far or disrespect!

Don't lose your cool.
...show respect "until that person shows they don't deserve it."

I disagree about "until." Even then, more than ever then, a young lady (or anyone} needs to treat the other with respect. To treat others with respect at all times is true class.

Don't lose your cool.
...show respect "until that person shows they don't deserve it."

I disagree about "until." Even then, more than ever then, a young lady (or anyone} needs to treat the other with respect. To treat others with respect at all times is true class.

Commandment #11
Look for, wait for, a classy guy. If you unfortunately never find one (and they are fewer and fewer), better to remain without a boyfriend/single than to get tangled up with a loser.

Easir said than done
As a father of two girls (ages 20 and 16), I'd agree on all points. That said, parents are often one voice of many in a young girl's life. We've been fortunate that our girls are generally within the parameters listed, but we have been through some tough times getting here, depsite both parents living a life which mirror's Mr. Giles points. It's just very hard limting access to damaging influences. No 2nd TV, no MTV, regularly checking stories with other parents ( a great tool!), still other voices get in and pull on your kids. I've long said that the bst we could hope for was to keep the ball of morality and responsibility in play and hope that it eventually takes over the trajectory. Looks like it has, but not without cost.

And mrbmrb, I'll take your bet. Studies show that programs which exclude abstinence do NOT fare well, for they teach that sexual activity is ok. That lesson drowns out everything about how to do so safely. Remember that your audience is a teenage crowd with raging hormones and no experience from which to pull wisdom. Further, the human brain seems to ignore consequences until about age 25, which explains why so many dumb stunts are pulled by teenagers. They can't process the dangers.

rubbers
one in four have an std running through their systems ???? ill bet the figure is much much lower for those who used a condom.and were taught its proper use in school. wanna bet.

Great Article !
I would rather see this article handed out in our schools and churches than Condoms. But, we have waited too long so now the condoms are needed and the kids can't read anyway. Thank you NEA and other Liberals

10 Commandments for Classy Girls
The problem with this article is that the audience that needs to read it, won't read it or will not be exposed to it.

As a mother of two young children, it reads as common sense to me.
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