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Saturday, August 04, 2007
Doug Giles :: Townhall.com Columnist
10 Steps to Becoming an Effective Conservative Campus Hell Razer
by Doug Giles
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1. Get a sense of humor. Most liberal profs and student activists are a screeching, nerve grating, nasally bunch of whiners. As a matter of fact, I’d rather watch Janet Reno do jumping jacks and hack squats in Borat’s thong than listen to the hemp clothed, goatee bearing, chunky liberal bleat.

Therefore, conservative student, when you queue up to address your crowd, be pleasant, poke fun at yourself, remove the whine from your voice and use honed humor to humiliate the left. Getting folks to laugh at your opponents and not being rabid about taking yourself so seriously helps get your point across. To upgrade your general funniness, get Judy Carter’s book, Stand Up Comedy.

2. Get creative. God bless technology. Conservative rebels, you have at your fingertips the wherewithal to go creatively crazy for the cause of God and country with the real possibility of a stack of people seeing and hearing what you have got to offer.

Therefore, get nutty with your stuff. Utilize these amazing techno tools to tackle the tools on the left. Take your gift, your talent, your voice and your God-wired weirdness and, every now and then, put something artistic out there that’ll overtly or covertly slam dance the secularists who seek to sabotage our society. To upgrade your competitive creativity get Chasing Cool by Noah Kerner and Gene Pressman.

3. Get tough. One thing that drives me nuts about some Sally’s on the right is their bemoaning how they get attacked when they go public in the classroom with their sentiments. Whaa! What did you think the Ward Churchill’s were going to do, clap? Buy you candy? Wash your undercarriage? Look, not-so-sharp-holder-of-traditional-values, we’re in a very real culture war. The _ _ _ _ will hit the fan when you counter the liberal crud in the classroom. Embrace it. Suck it up. Get tough. Let adversity be your Wheaties, the breakfast of champions! If you want to upgrade your resiliency, get my book, The Bulldog Attitude: Get It or Get Left Behind.

4. Get prayerful. Most folks on the ludicrous left who embrace what 21st century Dhimmocrats currently spew are admitted atheists. Seeing that they don’t believe in the God who is, I’m a guessin’ they are probably not down the funnel with the discipline of prayer. That is, until they’re about to die. Then, of course, they start praying like Chris Tucker freshly filled with the Holy Ghost and fire. Since they refuse to believe and pray to God, they have no supernatural help in their hapless cause. At least no positive supernatural help, because we all know demons love to assist these guys. But I digress. . .

. The traditionalist (usually) believes in the God of the scripture . . . the God who’s got a will and way that He’d like to see implemented on the planet. This is cool; however, God follower, take it to the next level and start praying with faith and oomph for His will to be done on earth as it is in heaven (this includes your campus).

So . . . God-fearing traditionalist, ask God for a) crazy clout to change yourself so that you’re not a waste-oid He’s got to work around and b) for a dynamic enabling to effect constructive change on your campus and culture. To upgrade your prayer life, get E. M. Bounds’ classic, Power Through Prayer.

5. Get rebellious. When rebels see what “everyone else is doing,” they usually shoot it the finger and do the opposite. They know that more than likely there must be something fundamentally wrong with “it” if everyone thinks it is mondo jovial. Especially if many of the adherents of the en masse mantra put the funk in dysfunction.

At today’s universities, college student, you will be a radical if you don’t lock step to the secularization, slutification and wussification that these institutions and their devotees try to cram up your and America’s backside. So, put on your leather jacket, grab a nice cigar, climb on your Von Dutch and tell these God-, country-, goodness- and common sense-haters to get bent. Go against the grain. Stand alone if you have to. To upgrade your rebel yell, read Rosa Parks: My Story, by Rosa Parks, listen to some Godsmack and stand tall.

6. Get informed. Conservative contrarians, you’ve got to get the following books and read them:

a. The Politically Incorrect Guide to American History,

b. The Politically Incorrect Guide to Darwinism and Intelligent Design,

c. The Politically Incorrect Guide to English and American Literature,

d. The Politically Incorrect Guide to Global Warming and Environmentalism ,

e. The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam (and the Crusades),

f. The Politically Incorrect Guide to Science,

g. The Politically Incorrect Guide to the Constitution,

h. The Politically Incorrect Guide to the South (and Why It Will Rise Again),

i. The Politically Incorrect Guide to Women, Sex, and Feminism, and

j. Conservative Comebacks to Liberal Lies, by Gregg Jackson

Digest the above and when appropriate, take some of the factoids found within these secularism devastating tomes and share them with your prof during class and your buddies in the dorm. It’s fun for the whole family.

7. Get speakers to your campus that’ll fire up your base. The Young America’s Foundation has an entire smorgasbord of world-class speakers covering every conceivable topic who can deftly dismember the left’s bereft beliefs. To upgrade your campus base, go to YAF.Org, order one of their ideological black belts and let the party start. In addition, you can book me to speak to your group. I’d love to come and toss the cat among the pigeons. Go to ClashRadio.com/seminars and let’s yuck it up! I’ll see the boys and girls at Duke in October. I’ll be talking about masculinity vs. bogus metrosexuality. Yeehaw!

8. Get sharp looking. Most campus Liberals have a monopoly on ugly. They are neither pleasing to the ear nor eye. Do not follow their lead, young conservative. If they want to look sloven, unshorn and tie-dyed let ‘em. You, however, should run in the opposite direction.

Don’t believe that crap about looks don’t matter. The heck they don’t. If I have the choice between these two options: 1) to look at and listen to an obese girl with frizzed out hair and so many piercings that it looks like a tackle box blew up in her face while she’s wearing no bra with her 40DDD floppies staring right at me while she is yelling or 2) to look at and listen to a svelte, well put together, conscientious lass graciously appealing to me, I am telling you right here and now that I’ll choose #2. The nasty girl has offended my senses, lost my attention and I could not care less what she has got to say. Call me crazy.

Girls, to upgrade your appearance, get A Guide to Elegance: For Every Woman Who Wants to Be Well and Properly Dressed on All Occasions by Genevieve Antoine Dariaux. Guys, grab a copy of Dressing the Man: Mastering the Art of Permanent Fashion by Alan Flusser and watch the difference the clothes make.

9. Get your grades up.

10. Get your hands dirty. Serve your campus and community. The world has enough of derisive, hate-filled protests and marches by ideological miscreants. While you’re in college, help in the critical areas of your campus and community’s needs and watch the campus and community give you a standing O.

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Gestell made the point, didn't he?
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All of the ostensibly beneficial things that he praises government for screwing with - unasked by the participants in all mentioned transactions, and against the reasoned desires of the informed individuals upon whom such "blessings" are conferred - are perfect examples of the economic dislocations, inefficiencies, and debilitations imposed by the intrusion of government into areas where its presence is not only unnecessary but perfectly pernicious.

The 2,000-character limit imposed upon these posts makes it impossible to refute your simple-minded superficiality with the detailed debridement such intellectual necrosis requires, but you can't be convinced by right reason and sound argument, and other readers - the ones with sense - know enough to find sound voices in political economics. Dr. Sowell and Dr. Williams offer good starting points, and their works are freely available.

But I can offer one correction. Dad was drafted into the Navy during World War II. His brother was the one who got pulled back into the Army for Korea.

Considering that he volunteered himself into the Submarine Service after completing diesel school, I'd say that whatever use he chose to make of his G.I. benefits was nothing more than the ghost of a shadow of whatever haardous duty compensation he'd earned.

Most of those 52 boats that didn't come back went down with all hands. Not even the bomber crews who flew over Nazi Germany had KIA rates quite that high.
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reply to SJ-doc
Don't look now, but you are living your life surrounded by actions of government. Such as:
1. That money you have on deposit in the local bank is insured by the FDIC
2. That transaction you just made to sell 100 shares of WarCorp Inc took place in a highly regulated environment. to try at least to reduce the possibility that your broker would cheat you.
3. The antihypertensive you took before bedtime came to you through a process in which government made at least some effort to make sure the thing wouldn't kill you.
4. When you sign that contract with the company that puts vending machines in your office, a whole fabric of law covers what you and the other guy can and cannot do legally.
5. Your father took advantage of the GI Bill when he got back from Korea, thus becoming a recipient of money taken from the paychecks of others (i.e., he was a welfare recipient).
6. You gripe at all the paperwork that it takes to keep Aunt Matilda on Medicare, but you're sure glad you don't have to pop for the cost of all her surgeries.
7. Even though you hate the federal government with all your heart, you're not about to turn down that Social Security check, now are you?

Gestell...
Gestell: "Of course, conservatives don't have a monopoly on nastiness, nor do liberals."

LOL! We agree! However, this does contradict your point above, when you guessed he was "conservative" beCAUSE he was "rude and nasty"... but I'll let that go.

Gestell: "If you take a look at the majority of posts on TH, you will, I think, see plenty of evidence that these folks rant on about how all liberals are traitors, atheists, communists, gay-loving, fornicating, decency-hating moral pond scum, who should be either deported or hanged."

Well, I have read plenty of posts here, but I havent seen the "moral pond scum" thingY mentioned at ALL... nor the "deporting and hanging"... But to your larger point; given that the majority of posters ARE "conservative" (however we define it...) you shouldnt be surprised that there is "plenty of evidence" to support your point of view... but it is a meaningless point.

Gestell: "I may have missed a few insults there, but you get the idea."

More like added a few!!

Gestell: "In ideological warfare, it is absolutely necessary to generalize."

Back to the problem... You see this as "warfare" whereas it isNT. It IS "persuading to your point of view"!!

Gestell: "Of course I don't have some sort of statistical evidence about the precise distribution of nastiness among conservatives, but that's not what ideological argument is about."

Well, nobody asked you for "stastistical evidence" for ANYthing. Matter of averages. Most PEOPLE are pretty ok.. given half a chance. Be they "conservative" or "liberal"... whatever those increasingly meaninlgless words mean in whatever context...

''Anarcy: It's Not the Law...''
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"...It's Just a Good Idea."

Jeez, there's always some whackjob who pops a gasket when the term "anarchist" (or "anarchocapitalist") comes up. What a moron.

Look, Gestell, the condition of "anarchy" is simply the absence of government.

Don't look now, but you're living almost every aspect of your life as a private citizen - in your dealings with other private citizens - in the absence of government.

"Were we directed from Washington when to sow and when to reap, we should soon want bread."

...--Thomas Jefferson, *Autobiography* (1821)

I personally dislike the expression "anarchocapitalist" because I consider it a redundancy.

Capitalism - in the sense that the word describes a marketplace of free exchange unhindered by the pseudomeliorism of government intervention - is already ordered and controlled without the overt intervention of uniformed goons with guns.
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reply to JimmyJoe
Of course, conservatives don't have a monopoly on nastiness, nor do liberals. If you take a look at the majority of posts on TH, you will, I think, see plenty of evidence that these folks rant on about how all liberals are traitors, atheists, communists, gay-loving, fornicating, decency-hating moral pond scum, who should be either deported or hanged. I may have missed a few insults there, but you get the idea.

In ideological warfare, it is absolutely necessary to generalize. Of course I don't have some sort of statistical evidence about the precise distribution of nastiness among conservatives, but that's not what ideological argument is about.

Gestell...
Gestell: "YOu're basiclly right; I assume that the Knight of boohoo is a conservative because he is rude and nasty.... So, given this lack of understanding, I assumed he was a conservative.

Hmmmm... First off, neither "conservatives" nor "liberals" have a monopoly on rudeness or nastiness. Making such generalizations about EITHER is... dare I say? - "rude and nasty"?? Certain an indication of deeply rooted prejudices.

I cant believe I'm saying this to an adult - but. Folks are just folk. People just people. Each INDIVIDUAL is unique and different. SOME "conservatives" and SOME "liberals" are "rude and nasty".... MOST are not. Join the majority who are NOT by refraining from such false generalizations in which you constantly indulge.

Fact is you probably see yourSELF as a "nice" person, and you probably are... in general. No need to unload yourself on townhall... because you end up defeating yourSELF with your generalizations. Same as "conservatives" who do likewise to "liberals."

If you had witnessed the previous exchanges between Knight and myself... and Knight and "conservative" posters in townhall, you would never have confused him for a "conservative."! And yet... for the first time EVER, I find myself in agreement with HIM! LOL!

While you continue your negative attitude to your fellow posters, you are basically wasting your time. By which I mean you will never persuade people to your view while you hold them in contempt, condescend to them, and insult them. And what on EARTH do you expect them to do back?

All you are doing is relieving your spleen on those who never asked for it. Indicating that you have "issues" you have yet to resolve in yourSELF.

reply to the Knight
An "anarchocapitalist," huh? In other words, someone who wants to avail himself of a wide array of liberties but would like them without all those inconvenient obligations some people think are related to liberties. Further, I'll bet you fantasize that there can be such a thing as a stand-alone, self-operating capitalist economy, without a whole farbric of laws, customs, beliefs, and values that support and sustain it. I might be wrong, but anarchocapitalism is sort of libertarianism on steroids, so I'll bet I'm close.

reply to JimmyJoe
YOu're basiclly right; I assume that the Knight of boohoo is a conservative because he is rude and nasty, as well as unable to recognize that what he is proposing is a specific, and partisan, theory of the Constitution--which is opposed by other theories operating from different premises. Our Knight of the woeful countenance doesn't get this, and imagines that what the Constitution says and means is self-evident. So, given this lack of understanding, I assumed he was a conservative.

By the way, Knight, or anybody else, you can search the Constitution from front to back and you will not find ONE word or sentence or paragrapah that tells you how the document is supposed to be interpreted. That's why there are DIFFERENT interpretations of the Constitution, but this is much too difficult a thought for our Knight.

Well..
You see, Knight, strange as it may seem, I actually agree with you! Yes, it depends on what is meant... and the CONTEXT. Using "conservative" and "liberal" and making broad generalizations about each is pretty pointless.


No prob.
Just on a point of info for Gestell's benefit... She falsely assumed you to be a conservative... I thought not. Appreciated.

But...
Are you a conservative anarchocapitalist or a liberal one?

Ooops...
My mistake...! Just wondering though... How you could possibly be described as a "conservative" though? Perhaps you are - but then how come you seem to keep getting deleted from a "conservative" site?

Gestell...
Er.. where do you get the impression that Knight of wherever is a "conservative"??? I hope it isNT because she is so obnoxious and rude!! If you have been following the various posts under her name, you would find that she is anything BUT, because in one thing she is consistent. She treats EVERYone with equal disrespect and distain!

As for the secession argument itself... Jezzz. Why waste your time on someone like her??? You can site all the cases you wish, prove your point irrefutably, and then she will come back with "prove it" or something equally innane...

reply to the knight part 4
Part 4
You’ve won, by setting up the rules yourself, so I will concede that the Constitution does not contain language forbidding secession. As a liberal, I’m overjoyed to find a conservative using such logic, since it opens the door to all of those liberal policies and programs conservatives used to declare unconstitutional.

Consider:

There is nothing in the Constitution that forbids federal aid to education, so the silence of the Constitution permits such policies.

There is nothing in the Constitution that forbids the federal government to promote racial and gender integration, so the silence of the Constitution permits such policies.

There is nothing in the Constitution that forbids the federal government from providing public assistance to the indigent, so the silence of the Constitution permits such a policy.

There is nothing in the Constitution that forbids the federal government from recognizing gay marriage, so the silence of the Constitution permits such recognition.

I hope conservatives will find this instructive as they hatch their neo-Confederate schemes for secession. Perhaps The Federalist Society can start an online discussion of how best to destroy the United States. Should be fun.


reply to the Knight part 3
Here is Part 3
Andrew Jackson addressed the issue with this very understanding of the American government in his “Proclamation Regarding Nullification” to the people of South Carolina, December 10, 1832:
“The Constitution of the United States, then, forms a government, not a league, and whether it be formed by compact between the States, or in any other manner, its character is the same. It is a government in which ale the people are represented, which operates directly on the people individually, not upon the States; they retained all the power they did not grant. But each State having expressly parted with so many powers as to constitute jointly with the other States a single nation, cannot from that period possess any right to secede, because such secession does not break a league, but destroys the unity of a nation, and any injury to that unity is not only a breach which would result from the contravention of a compact, but it is an offense against the whole Union. To say that any State may at pleasure secede from the Union, is to say that the United States are not a nation because it would be a solecism to contend that any part of a nation might dissolve its connection with the other parts, to their injury or ruin, without committing any offense. Secession, like any other revolutionary act, may be morally justified by the extremity of oppression; but to call it a constitutional right, is confounding the meaning of terms, and can only be done through gross error, or to deceive those who are willing to assert a right, but would pause before they made a revolution, or incur the penalties consequent upon a failure.”
The eminent 19th century conservative Supreme Court Justice Joseph Story, in his “Commentaries on the Constitution, Book 3, Ch. 15, section 1096, fn. 91 reprints the whole of Jackson’s proclamation with evident approval of its understanding of the Constitution.


replyt to the night part 2
Here's the passage from Federalist 39:

“If we try the Constitution by its last relation to the authority by which amendments are to be made, we find it neither wholly national nor wholly federal. Were it wholly national, the supreme and ultimate authority would reside in the majority of the people of the Union; and this authority would be competent at all times, like that of a majority of every national society, to alter or abolish its established government. Were it wholly federal, on the other hand, the concurrence of each State in the Union would be essential to every alteration that would be binding on all. The mode provided by the plan of the convention is not founded on either of these principles. In requiring more than a majority, and principles. In requiring more than a majority, and particularly in computing the proportion by States, not by citizens, it departs from the national and advances towards the federal character; in rendering the concurrence of less than the whole number of States sufficient, it loses again the federal and partakes of the national character.
The proposed Constitution, therefore, [even when tested by the rules laid down by its antagonists,][1] is, in strictness, neither a national nor a federal Constitution, but a composition of both. In its foundation it is federal, not national; in the sources from which the ordinary powers of the government are drawn, it is partly federal and partly national; in the operation of these powers, it is national, not federal; in the extent of them, again, it is federal, not national; and, finally, in the authoritative mode of introducing amendments, it is neither wholly federal nor wholly national.”
Thus, the United States is a political form that is genuinely new, as most of the Founders were proud to assert. It is not an alliance, yet is not quite the centralized “nation” of Western European experience. To the extent that it is “national,” the United States cannot allow for secession.



reply 1 to knight_of-bawa
Given TH’s new word limit, I’m going to reply in several installments. Here is part 1.
Since you are a conservative, I shouldn’t be surprised that you do not find that the Supreme Court is an acceptable interpreter of the Constitution. The constitutional issue we are disputing goes beyond the document to the basic nature of the American governmental system. You suppose the government to be a sort of league or loose alliance, which was the secessionist interpretation. What you do not seem to be capable of understanding is that you ARE interpreting the Constitution. Yours is not the only possible way to do this. The next installment is a passage from Federalist 39



reply to knight_of_baawa
You still don't get it; the idea that anything not specifically mentioned in the Constitution is thereby permitted is not a bare fact. It is part of a general theory of the Constitution; what you have to do is either devise the arguments supporting that way of reading the document yourself or find suitable conservative constitutional lawyers who've done it already.

Here is one of the leading cases in this area of constitutional law. In Texas v White (1869) 74 US (7 Wall.) 700, the Court concluded that ”the Constitution in all its provisions, looks to be an indestructible Union composed of indestructible States."
In 2006 the Alaska Supreme Court held that a citizen petition to put secession on the state ballot was unconstitutional because its goal violated both the Alaskan and the US Constitution: See Kohlhaas v. State (11/17/2006) sp-6072, 147 P3d 714. One of the references in the court’s opinion is to a 1960 case-- United States v. Louisiana, 363 U.S.121, 131-32 (1960), in which Justice Frankfurter (concurring), instances the language I cited from the Texas decision.
Although this last article is from a Canadian law journal, and is focused on the Quebec secession question, it provides some useful references to the American secession issue along the way.

“Getting Out: Secession and Constitutional Law,” James A Thomson LLB (Hons), BA (UWA); LLM, SJD (Harvard) Volume 6, Number 1 (March 1999)
http://www.murdoch.edu.au/elaw/issues/v6n1/thomson61.html

Since you're clearly an expert in constitutional law, I suggest you read a couple of good anti-secession arguments:

Herman Belz, “Recipes for Anarchy in which Libertarians and Slaveholders Find Common Cause” (November 20, 2000)
http://www.claremont.org/publications/crb/id.741/article_detail.asp

Mackubin Thomas Owens, “The Case Against Secession” (July 10, 2000)

http://www.claremont.org/publications/pubid.171/pub_detail.asp#

I await your reply.





reply to knight_of_baawa

I notice your silence about my use of case law. This suggests to me that you can't find any cases in which courts, either state or federal, have held that secession does not violate the US Constitution. Now it's probably true that as a conservative, you reject the idea that federal courts, including the Supreme Court, have any authoritative role in interpreting the Constitution. This would mean that you can ignore Texas v. White or any other case the resolution of which would count against a right of secession. If I'm right, we have nothing really to discuss, because you insist that if the US Constitution doesn't specifically prohibit secession, then it must allow secession. This is far from being self-evident; you have to invoke a whole philosophy of constitutional interpretation, instead of the simple assertions you've made.

What pro-secessionists such as yourself should be doing is working for a constitutional amendment similar to Article 72 of the old constitution of the former USSR, which allowed member "republics" to secede. Try getting that on into the Republican platform next year!

knight of the long (but dull) knives
knight_of___baawa_ writes: "gee, notice how they
(that is: nemo and nee) have gotten ever-so screechy because their stupidity has been exposed...perhaps they are the most intelligent of the mouth-breathing, knuckle-dragging, troglodyte species of which they are representatives...the rest of their numbers haven't even got the intellect to bang a couple of rocks together and make fire, or even understand the concept of bathing."

See what I mean, folks? If you get them riled enough they even bounce around the cage. It truly is jolly good fun and you should try it. If you poke hard enough you may even get him to defecate in one hand while he wished for a Very Rothbardian Christmas in the other. LOL.

it just keeps getting better and better
knight_of___baawa_ writes: "Your mother is calling, Nemo. She's wondering what those strange noises are. I don't think you can keep feeding her the ol' "oiling the baseball glove" line."

Poke at them long enough with a stick and they always revert to form, Nee. Always. Quod erat demonstrandum.

knighty knight
knight_of___baawa_ writes: "You have to understand Nemo Given the style and content of the posts it is likely that Nemo is male, young (late teens, early 20's at most) and VERY insecure - evidenced not so much from the tone of his posts but the fervor in which he wraps himself in his trolling..."

Nothing but cutting and pasting. Considerable psychological projection with no originality or imagination. Puerile and lame. You get an "F"

Perhaps if you spent less time dreaming of Carmen Electra poring of a copy of The Ethics of Liberty on planet Rothbard and more time in the real world the rest of us inhabit, you wouldn't continually dig yourself in fool's quicksand.

But don't let me stop you...you are way too funny to ignore.



Baawa black sheep have you any wool?
knight_of___baawa_ writes: "You sure are touchy. Maybe you should educate yourself. Then you wouldn't be so touchy about being stupid."

The ignorant can be educated, the stupid can not. In your case, this explains much.

he is beNEEth us, Nee
Nee writes: "So, it boils down to the FACT that only YOU can interpret AC.."

Nee, you have to place this in its proper psychological context. Given the style and content of the posts it is likely that knight is male, young (late teens, early 20's at most) and VERY insecure - evidenced not so much from the tone of his posts but the fervor in which he wraps himself in the neo-gnostic cloak of anarcho-capitalism.

It is to him a gateway to esoterica in much the same manner the Eleusian mysteries were a tantalizing gateway for the equally disturbed Nero.

How those syllables sweetly trip across the tongue: An-ar-cho-cap-i-tal-ism. Nevermind the fact that, like Marxism, it only works on paper and has about as much chance of being incarnated into the real world as knight has of moving out of mom's basement.

Anarcho-capitalism is his Superman costume, the penumbra of a delusion that shields him from the glaring sunlight of a cruel, mundane existence in a workaday world which otherwise would ignore him for the staggering mediocrity he truly is.

btw and gee
So, it boils down to the FACT that only YOU can interpret AC and I am a lying sack. Well, now are you the expert on impressionism,too? Gosh, how do the lowly like Nemo,Gestell and I get to be privy to your brilliance here at TH. And, while we're at it, how come such an AC expert as yourself has not written his own book. You know, Ayn Rand's books are phenomenal. Wait, that would be somewhat if not close to AC, or captilistic writing at the least...are you now going to tell me I'm lying about that, as well? Because I got an A in a phil class with good 'ol Dr. Frith and Ayn.
Gee, I already said I had not read as much as the great knight...yet continue to be ridiculed because I am not in his league. I surely pity his future wife or child for not being as brilliant.

Good knight
knight_of___baawa_ writes: "I think it's way past your bedtime."

I think not, Pee Wee. That's the best you can do? Perhaps you should increase the dosage. Or decrease the voltage.

Oh my god!
The messiah of archocapitalism lives...and to think he shat upon my poor uninformed soul...boo-fukking hoo.

more to the knight
If you would like to be able to make intelligent arguments about secession, take at look at the American Secession Project.
http://www.secessionist.us/theories_of_secession.htm
I did not think you were necessarily Southern in origin, merely in belief. I’m aware that there are many secessionist groups in our country. I’m also aware of people who believe the US possesses extraterrestrial technology it got from crashed flying saucers. I don’t give them intellectual credibility either.

reply to knight_of_baawa
Your claim about the Constitution is not self-evident; it is, or is based on, a specific (and inherently disputable) way of reading the Constituion.

Since it's time for some constitutional law here, let's go:
(1) I assume you know Texas v White (1869) 74 US (7 Wall.), in which the Supreme Court opnion rejecting a right of secession; it contains the following: ”the Constitution in all its provisions, looks to be an indestructible Union composed of indestructible States."

(2) In 2006 the Alaska Supreme Court held that a citizen petition to put secession on the state ballot was unconstitutional because its goal violated both the Alaskan and the US Constitution: See Kohlhaas v. State (11/17/2006) sp-6072, 147 P3d 714. One of the references in the court’s opinion is to a 1960 case-- United States v. Louisiana, 363 U.S.121, 131-32 (1960), in which Justice Frankfurter (concurring), instances the language I cited from the Texas decision.

(3) In such documents as The Texas Ordinance of Secession (February 2, 1861) a number of passages like the following appear, proving conclusively that secession and the racism of slavery are joined at the hip.
The Texas Ordinance of Secession
(February 2, 1861)

We hold as undeniable truths that the governments of the various States, and of the confederacy itself, were established exclusively by the white race, for themselves and their posterity; that the African race had no agency in their establishment; that they were rightfully held and regarded as an inferior and dependent race, and in that condition only could their existence in this country be rendered beneficial or tolerable. “

I'm really pleased to see conservative secessionist raise their colors. Too bad we don't have General Sherman, now that he's needed again.

Knight
Preach it, Brutha!

If people would just have the cajones to say, "I don't know . . . ", it would save on unpleasant, insult laden exchanges.

WOW!
Ah, only you get to be the judge, jury of who knows the most about AC? Give me am break. I have not read all that you claim to have read, but I know enough to say what I think, you pompous asss. Instead of your so what atttitude, why not do what I might with a student who has all the answers...ooh, but wait, if I suggest this you'll tell me I coddle my students. Ask questions!! "Why don't you like the l'aissez faire govt?"
(That statement above should have read I still BELIEVE in some form of Gov't,) I don't have enough faith that morally men will evolve to be only "good". (neither do i have faiththat all gov't is good but is better than Nothing.You did nothing to engage except for name-calling and throwing around your booksmart superiority to everyone here, not just me. So, why waste my time. I tried, and according to your brilliant self, I am a liar, hypocrit and uninformed. UFB.
So you have any friends? Perhaps you should read How to WIN Friends and Influence People by Dale Carnegie.

Trolling all knight long
Nee responds to knight: "You require my credentials and proof? Right back at you. My students, my methods work for us. You don’t matter there."

Save your breath and your ammo, Nee. This particular message board pest is known as a 'troll.' I used to ignore these creatures until I realized that their anger, frustration and ultimately their lack of any sense of adult humor made them perfect targets for subtle and not-so-subtle abuse.

Yes, I know the sign says 'Please don't feed the bores.' But it says nothing about poking them with a stick.

Knight vision
knight_of___baawa_ writes: "So what you're saying is that you, like Nee, haven't got a clue as to what you're talking about."

Nemo: "No...that is what YOU are saying."

knight: "Nope."

Yup.

"I never said or even implied that the counsel Rothbard, et. al offers us is void of thought or without value or merit."

knight: "Yeah, you did."

No I didn't.

Nemo: "I am well-acquainted with your particular philosophy."

knight: "I'm sure that you're not."

I know that I am.

Nemo: "What I DID say is that the particular school of politico/economic philosophy to which you subscribe, non unlike like Marxism, works just great - on paper. It doesn't stand a chance in the real world. "

knight: "Sure it does."

No, it doesn't.

"Here on earth - not Planet Rothbard - is where the problems are...problems that can and must be addressed using the tools as they exist"

knight: "Yes. And?"

And not tools that we only wish existed. Are you ordinarily obtuse or is just part of your overall affectation?

knight: "Oh--you didn't have a point, did you?"

Other than the fact that I can gainsay just as well as you can? Sure, I had a point and I stated it clearly. Unfortunately you missed it, no doubt the result of your vision being obscured the walls of your colon.

Ah, Miss Lilly...
lilly writes (in sarcasm): "...we don't need sociologists, poets, horticulturists, librarians, teachers, artists, physicians, journalists, historians, engineers, scientists, lawyers."

Aw, shucks, Miss Lilly, we sure can winnow this list down a bit. For starters, if sociologists and lawyers vanished from the planet at midnight tonight no one would miss them except, perhaps, for the Democrat party.

'Horticulturist'is just Miss Lilly's fancy-talk way of saying 'gardeners.' And no, one does NOT really need to attend a university to learn gardening.

As for poets and artists, one either has talent or one does not. While higher education MAY serve a purpose in honing or fine tuning a nascent talent, being a part of the real world will do more to educate a poet or artist than anything else. These days, many of them are just talentless hacks looking for a government grant.

In this age of the new and alternative media, journalism and the school that teach it are undergoing their own existential crisis. Not sure? Here are a couple of names that should help put things in perspective: Stephen Glass, Jason Blair, Dan Rather, Franklin Foer.

That leaves us with historians, teachers and librarians in the humanities and physicians, engineers and scientists in the hard sciences.

Knight
You require my credentials and proof? Right back at you. My students, my methods work for us. You don’t matter there. I wouldn’t be teaching if I thought I was as dumb as you claim. (remember, it was you said I couldn’t even dress myself) But, you weren’t being childish, right? Just brilliant with the comebacks, enough to desrve being called an arrogant Asss.
You claimed that I brushed you off, but I merely stated my opinion and you called me clueless and alluded to my throwing a tantrum. Whatever. As I said, I have read about AC and I still don’t believe in not having some form of Gov’t. It does seem to me that we already have all those things that an AC thinker would want. Except, no boundaries and the absolute that all men would be “good”. To me it means higher crime, more lawlessness than we have already.
And, as my husband pointed out to me, I confuse the less inclined worker with socialist tendencies to infect a whole society. This is indeed incorrect. Rather, I should say, no work, no food. We’ve seen other socialist nations fail because no one is givene incentive or has desire to achieve and succeed. But capitalism or AC, in your case is the thing that most people move toward. Achieveing for self and, as a whole society benefits. (Goods for ervices,inventions, and the like).
You deemed yourself expert even on MY opinions. Your tolerance of those less brilliant than yourself is non-existent. Must be lonely at the top. So, if I, my less than brilliant self, hurt your feelings, sorry, Now, you can go and get over yourself. Or not.

Lilly of the (Death) Valley
Lilly writes: "...you do have the option of sending your child to Liberty or Patrick Henry or one of the other conservative Christian schools where nobody is about to interfere with the bigotry and limitation you have so carefully instilled in your young."

Tsk, Miss Lilly! And here I am, mistakenly basking in the comforting warmth of the belief you are a sweet, kindly - if somewhat addled - retired schoolmarm when, in reality, you are every inch the embittered, angry, warped, frustrated, bigoted, closed-minded liberal harridan that my instinct suggested you were.

I retract every kind word I said to and about you in earlier posts elsewhere on TH and second a sentiment you expressed about yourself: Thank God you are retired from teaching.

Knight of the Living Dud..
knight_of___baawa_ writes: "It took me several years of actually READING economics books to get to where I am today."

Now that you finally polished off all three of those books, what is the next step in your master plan?

the Knight who says...NEE
knight_of___baawa_ writes: "So what you're saying is that you, like Nee, haven't got a clue as to what you're talking about."

No...that is what YOU are saying. I never said or even implied that the counsel Rothbard, et. al offers us is void of thought or without value or merit. I am well-acquainted with your particular philosophy.

What I DID say is that the particular school of politico/economic philosophy to which you subscribe, non unlike like Marxism, works just great - on paper. It doesn't stand a chance in the real world.

Here on earth - not Planet Rothbard - is where the problems are...problems that can and must be addressed using the tools as they exist - not as we wish they would be. In scatological terms that you no doubt will find more in harmony with your personality, you can wish for the perfect world of Austro-anarcho-libertarianism in one hand and you can take a dump in the other - see which hand gets filled first.

"Thanks for letting me know that you're an idiot as well."

An understandle presumption, given your particular perspective. I would like to see things from your perspective - unfortunately, I'm unable to stick my head up my arse.

reply to knight_of_baawa
You subscribe to the traditional Southern theory that any American state has some sort of right to secede, which has no Constitutional basis whatever. That is the real issue, as both sides knew fully at the time. You probably also believe in nullification, and the rest of the John C. Calhoun nonsense that cost this country so much blood. I think it's both funny and a little pathetic that many present-day Germans and Japanese don't have active resentment of the US for having defeated them in WWII, but American conservative Southerners can still get hot and bothered about the Stars and Bars. Go off and have a cold one with your buddies from the League of the South, use the N-word enough times to get it out of your system for a while, and have a nice day.

reply to knight__of__baawa
I'm dismissing conservative enemies of the United States as readily as any conservative would dismiss liberals he regards as enemies of the United States.

As for might and right, in the case of the Civil War, the United States had right on its side, and also might. The South was not then a part of the United States, but an enemy power; it deserved getting its a** kicked. Its flag, beloved by many conservatives, no more deserves to fly over any square foot of American soil than does the flag of the Third Reich.

I just love it when conservatives get into their pro-CSA mode; it gives us liberals so many opportunities to smack you around.

reply to knight__of___bawaa
Yes, I've read "The Real Lincoln" as well as the writings that underlie thse supporters of the Confederacy, people like Mel Bradford and Richard Weaver, both conservative intellectual icons. A bunch of racist, reactionary enemies of the United States, all of 'em.

As for getting the South to ratify the 14th Amendment at the point of a bayonet, I've got no problem with that, no problem at all. In war, the winner gets to do stuff like that. The Confederacy was an enemy of the United States. It deserved everything it got. Now get over it.

Don't suppose
So, let's see. You suppose an awful lot about me..and hate is a prominent theme. I love to read and nope, I am not an expert in econ, never claimed to be.
And,my students are AP learners with a bit of arrogance tossed in. I don't let them call any of their classmates stupid jsut because they think they have a leg up. It is about respecting each other and not about self-esteem. You can berate me all you want and think what you will. I still say that your arrogant assshole self has a long way to go from your book-smart brilliance. I could care less how smart you are, to be honest. It's all in how you treat people.

Perhaps,one day
I'll be as smart as knight thinks he is. A vision of clouds might be lifted and I might just grasp what the Knight knows.
Funny, I tell my students that it's okay to know you might be smarter than an average learner, but it is not okay to point it out with such verbosity. One becomes labeled an assshole. How bout that? I figured out what Knight is. With amazing clarity.
And, I am totally against ANY form of socialized anything. That about says it all.

Keep dreaming
knight___ofbaawa__ writes: "I'm an anarchocapitalist, of the vein of Murray Rothbard, Hans-Hermann Hoppe, and Jan Narveson. That is to say: Austro-libertarianism. Austrian-school economics with anarchism."

In other words, a school of politico/economic theory that has no chance of ever making the leap from the textbook reality and about as much chance of succeeding as Marxism if it ever did become a reality.

Wow.
I guess I must bow to those who proclaim brilliance. If my opinions or rationaliaztions as you refer to them are such, then how does that make me wrong and predjudiced, oh wise and brilliant Knight? Your intolerance of the less brilliant is showing, again! What a surprise!!!How do you function around such stupidity all the time?

Sweeping statement
Giles says "...Get a sense of humor. Most liberal profs and student activists are a screeching, nerve grating, nasally bunch of whiners. " Sounds like he's describing Sean Hannity, except he left out "shrill" and "hysterical."

All Democrats and leftists are atheists? When you make ludicrous, over-the-top arguments like this, you lose any chance of being taken seriously. It's like when valid criticisms of the Israeli government are dismissed as anti-Semitism.

Mary C.

kob
is for national socialism.

knight
You say I was bluffing my way to conclusions, but apparently I'm not the only one who sees the same thing from your posts. I stand by the inference that you would rather any form of socialism with a misguided notion that it would still be a "free market."

Repeal the 13th and 14th Amendments, now
I've got a new cause for that fightin', spirit-filled all-American conservative student Giles wants to train. I noticed that the "Politically Incorrect Guide to American History" is on the reading list. Well, at least Giles is putting his cards on the table. He continues to do so with the "Politically Incorrect Guide to the South."

Giles shows himself to be one of those fashionable Southern apologists and historical revisionists who rip Abraham Lincoln and peddle a version of American history with an all too sinister design. I think those students Giles wants to train should start a campaign to repeal the 13th and 14th Amendments. This cause would find extensive support among American conservatives, and would certainly make things lively in this country. I can hardly wait for the conservative war against that icon of the Republican Party, Abraham Lincoln. While we're at it, just keep in mind that the Dred Scott decision was perfectly sound, originalist constitutional law.

kob
Robberbarron of posts!

Knight
No, communism is not inherently democratic, aristocratic, or otherwise. It is not a means by which political decisions are reached.

kob
Talk about monopoly. With all your post in a row are you sure your not a closet capitalist?

Not to duplicate the knight's posts
--
...but to offer a supplement.

One of the great practical difficulties associated with living under socialism is that everything - and I mean *EVERYTHING* - becomes a political football.

In a socialist (as opposed to a free market) system, what gets done in every aspect of life depends upon its political popularity.

That means its potential to draw either the patronage of powerful politicians or the favor of big, roaring mobs of people.

Both such forces tend to be fickle (at best) and most commonly both hostile toward deviant minorities (like the average individual human being) and predatory with regard to wealth and the soruces of wealth.

They're also inefficient in terms of responding to the needs and desires of individual human beings. And because socialism co-opts *ALL* the resources of a polity (all the materiel, all the manpower, all the effort, all the ingenuity), it leaves no room for productive enterprise except in those areas of life outside the control of "society" in the form of civil government.

This means that the only means by which unpopular demands can be satisfied will have to be the explicitly criminal "black" market - the remnant of the *FREE* market functioning outside the suppression of socialist government.

The individual enters society for the satisfaction of his needs in cooperation with other people.

Cooperation, not confiscation.

Socialism, however, is a form of government pitted systematically and purposefully against the individual, and therefore against the purpose of any society it purports to serve.
--

True American
It's been awhile since I took my economics class in college but one of things that stuck out in my mind was the fact Capitalism was based on a book, "The Wealth of Nations" by Adam Smith written in 1732 the same year George Washington was born. Capitalism isn't perfect and never will be. Socialism on paper is perfect until applied to human beings then becomes an absolute failure becuase it fails to account for human nature.

Man tell me you didn't to it with that obese girl with frizzed out hair and so many piercings that it looks like a tackle box blew up in her face while she’s wearing no bra with her 40DDD floppies.

LOL Lighten up I'm just kidding

Knight
Democracy is a political system in which people vote. Communism is a socio-economic system (a centrally-planned economy) in which there is some "plan" set by policymakers, and all resources of a nation are redistributed in order to meet said plan, prices are controlled by government, and all job opportunities and markets are offered/controlled by government as part of meeting the plan.

Government dictating how resources are moved back and forth in order to meet a given plan versus votes determining public policy... hmmmmm. This hardly constitutes a democracy, and if you knew your history you'd also know that the Bolsheviks were not what one would call democratic. Nor for that matter was Mao Tse Tung (I suggest you investigate the Hundred Flowers' Campaign).

A better idea
Quit your liberal/conservative bellyaching and study. Mom and Dad aren't shelling out gobs of money so you can gallavant around, protesting this and trying to educate that.

Interesting, when students are paying for their own education-working their way through school- they don't have time for this nonsense.

knightof__baawa
I cannot believe that people on this website would confuse anarchocapitalism with socialism. As a libertarian/conservative, I find most of the principles of anarchosocialism to be quite edifying; I disagree with certain aspects of the philosophy, particularly the privitazation of the judicial system and the police force, but, for the most part, it is a wonderful philosophy that my fellow libertarians and conservatives should make a concerted effort to understand. Instead of focusing on our differences, we should focus on our similarities. I'm assuming that the anarchocapitalist would support the works of F. A. Hayek, often considered one of the fathers of modern American conservatism.

knightof__baawa

Little "Doesn't know what an American is" just really believes that government people are more "accountable" than a person who depends on the public perception to make a living, pay the bills and keep his employees paid.

The bureaucrat as you and I know only has to follow procedures and make excuses. He pays for nothing and is himself/herself on the public dole.

I repeat what I said earlier about this "non American", per W. Churchill:

"A modest little person, with much to be modest about."



lilly, lilly, lilly... Pa-lease!

"Saying that you got a poor grade because you disagreed with the teacher is the first refuge of the unprepared student."

That could be the case SOMETIMES. But, with the overt liberal views of educators these days, I'd say that is, for the most part, an UNTRUE assumption.

Why don't you read Ben Shapiro's book? Might be a real eye opener.

And, respect is a two way street. Ward Churchill is not the only college prof. of his ilk! My daughter, a Conservative, went to an all womens' Catholic college (her choice) but I was grateful because I didn't want to be in a typical liberal collegiate situation, and have to defend her Conservative views and position all the time.

Get real, lilly.


To Conservatives
I should think that teaching your children to be respectful of their teachers would be a conservative family value. Encouraging them to get in the professor's face and report him or her to David Horowitz doesn't really fit in with that.

Also, if you don't like Duke and Tulane and Berkley and Chicago and Grinnell and Harvard and Stanford and Smith and Rutgers, you do have the option of sending your child to Liberty or Patrick Henry or one of the other conservative Christian schools where nobody is about to interfere with the bigotry and limitation you have so carefully instilled in your young.

Earthquake weather
Very hot then cool then hot.
The faults expand and contract and slip to reduce pressure.

I hope CA is still here next week.

Inkling Rev
Saying that you got a poor grade because you disagreed with the teacher is the first refuge of the unprepared student. More often the student has failed to answer the question as it was asked or has substituted personal opinion rather than using supportive evidence taken from the material taught. If the task is an essay question on the causes of the American Civil War and lectures and readings have presented a survey of historic, social, and economic causes, then the student is expected to give evidence that he paid attention and learned the material. It's not good enough to use the exam as the occasion to present one's personal views on slavery or on the economics of the South.

The most common failure of students on essay questions and papers is that they don't know how to support a statement with textual evidence. "Say what you're going to say, then say it, then summarize what you've said."

Inkling_revival

Try to ignore our "untrue american", remember the Winston Churchill quote:

"A modest little person, with much to be modest about."


Hey Inkling: Remember the ol' liberal
logic.... 5, 2, 9, M, ^, w, pink, applesauce....

And they think that makes sense! Based on what Not True Amer. posted on Burt's column not too long ago, I'm wondering if he isn't related to the red neck locals in Deliverance...







Don, 7:26 PM
Don wrote: "It's been a long time since I was in college, but it is my perception that 90% of faculty are liberal and vote Democratic."

Yes, it's been a long time, Don, and it's a lot worse now than when you were there. The percentage now is closer to 99.5%, and they have no qualms at all about turning their classrooms into rantfests. What's worse, in a frightening number of anecdotes I've heard from students in these classes, to dissent is to earn no better than a C and more likely a D or an F, regardless of how respectful or informed the dissent may be. Vindictiveness seems to be a signature characteristic of these beasts.

I agree that respectful behavior is important, but let's not underestimate the danger. We live in a time where wholehearted activism in the defense of good sense and liberty are required, or those will be lost, and the West lost with them.

johninoregon
joi objects to the spelling "Razer", not realizing what a fine pun it is.

John, please hop on over to dictionary.com and query the verb "to raze", ok?

You think that spelling was a lucky mistake? Guess again. The people you're criticizing as uneducated buffoons are light years ahead of you.

I haven't seen a single instance yet when johninorgeon posted anything that was factually correct. The man is incredibly consistent.

SJDoc, 1:54 AM
SJDoc wrote: "The roots of their own destruction is - most assuredly - in their own voices.

"Socialists condemn themselves far more damning than you or I ever could manage the job. Just look at what they say in the run-up to their primaries, when their trying to "mobilize the faithful."

"Or look at their theoretical stuff. Gawd, these socialists are some absolutely loathesome people."

And I observe:

Bravo! and let me add the following:

Whenever a liberal posts a link to something that they claim supports their point of view, FOLLOW THE LINK. And astonishing number of times -- in my experience, it's above 80% of the time -- the refutation for their point of view is RIGHT THERE in the article they've linked to.

The truth is, the average liberal is so intellectually flabby, and so self-deceived, that they can't even read accurately. They see only what they want to see. Take advantage, and make them look the fools that they genuinely are.

onceamarine: Naw, it's much bigger...

And, I got SUCH-A-DEAL! :-)


onceamarine
I will try to remember that and I'm not being a wise guy. It isn't my nature to put people on.

Anne

Hope it isn't the one in Minneapolis.

MyOpine ...
a sense of humor .... I love it!

Cliff

""Something is very out of balance here and I can't quite understand or give it a name.""

I could not agree more. You have correctly expressed "something" that has often bothered me, and I am sure a few others. It just doesn't compute, unless we decide they have way too low an intelligence or just don't understand history. Probably the second.

Or maybe they are just the most optimistic people on earth. Certainly not survivors. Reality never forgives the overly optimistic. Optimism is a great fellow traveler, but a poor defense when things don't go well.



Johninoregon
Hell-raiser is a negative term. Hell-razer is an interesting play on that word, using the term "raze" as in demolish. Either that or the columnist just made a mistake.

onceamarine: Sell you a bridge?

What????

The one I just bought? I've only had it for a few weeks. LOL



Anne - - - Carlos

Anne, sell me a bridge. I never screw up, much.

Yes, a lot of people we need to keep are the ones to leave, and vice versa.

Carlos, you just keep right on smiling. As well as some very good Anglo Americans with your name, there are some very good Latins born in the U.S.A. or not, who should always be proud of who they are.

Most Latins, where ever born, are more conservative than liberal in the modern sense of the word.

I have two sons with that handle, by two wives. I wasn't involved in naming the 2nd one. Carlos Alberto and Carlos Daniel. Both would make you proud although one is 45 years old last June, former Marine, with the service moniker of "animal". The other is 13 years old and lost his mother to cancer three and a half years ago.

Arriba Carlos......... Semper Fi.....


Cliff
Something out of ballance?
I can understand how the very wealthy would like to become Communists and give up their wealth to join the proletariat because we are such pleasant people to be with.

I can understand how radical Professors & Educators would have a guilt complex and wish to die in a Communist Purge.

What I find hard to see is why much of Hollywood would want to give up their maids, have to clean their own floors & toilets and work in the fields with the Proletariat.
That is a real puzzlement!

"Hell Razer"?
"Hell Razer"? Last time I checked, the appropriate spelling was "hell-raiser." Never mind. You're attempting to appeal to conservative students. They wouldn't know the difference.

onceamarine: Yikes! You are RIGHT!

I did "proof read" but, as I often do, I actually "see" what I meant to write instead of what I actually wrote. :-(

Good call!

I've heard about those figures, but unfortunately, the wrong ones leave...

Maybe they leave BECAUSE of the wanna be socialists and the ACLU???







Conservatives on Campus
I deplore the name calling. It suggests a lack of a good argument. Advising students to actively oppose their professors may be good rhetoric. The difference in power between a professor and a student is vast especially if the student has conservative tendencies. It's been a long time since I was in college, but it is my perception that 90% of faculty are liberal and vote Democratic.
They may try to be impartial and not let their personal political views effect their teaching, but that would be asking a lot from a human. Education does make one informed (about some things), but education does not make one good. Some ministers sin, some doctors do not have healthy life styles and some lawyers break the law.
I think it would be better to make the argument on factual grounds and leave off name calling even though it might be tempting to do it.
Donald W. Bales, M.D. retired

Carlos ...
D*mn Carlos ... that's good! Bank that with a name like Carlos that you can say that in at least two languages. Thanx .... you born here or naturalised? People from other places have some interesting insight as they have a point of comparison .... as I said, for me, the trip to work, under five miles, is my adventure for the day.

MyOpine ...
Indeed I remember Kent State ..... and I remember the young men of Vietnam. Many of their spirits still roam those jungles and their mothers cry for them.
Some never returned .... some in body bags .... some disfigured ... and guys like my cousin who made it out alive.

I know that the same Howdy Doody people who were avid socialists and so anti-establishment are today concerned about their stock portfolios and their social security and they are in charge and don't like being questioned.

Something is very out of balance here and I can't quite understand or give it a name.

Liberal Men....

Liberal men vote for... Their fragile ego.

They stand out in a crowd... Always trying to be seen, like a teenager... Forever trying to pick up younger girls, to boost their weak self-esteem... claiming the moral high ground, while living off their mother's social security check... blaming someone else when they fail, and are caught in another lie.

Fear of facing their own Mortality is the most common trait of a liberal man.

Most have a fantasy: If I change the world into a "Perfect World", then I will become immortal, and ward off death.



Anne

Are you a doctor/nurse. No, of course not.
I just had to hit you, good friend.

""I admit that I've lost my patients with""

Hmmm, guess you mean Patience.....
Use the spell checker, but more importantly, proof read. Gee, I never make mistakes. Would you sell me a bridge.??.

As to leaving the country, only our successful people generally do that. According to Numbers USA, about 200,000 Americans leave permanently every year.

Not mentioned is how many of those are originally born outside the U.S.A. Another group are retired Americans who can live for less and in more peace outside the U.S.A.






Cliff
Remember the stink about Kent State?

The future is hard to predict.
I am not familiar with our modern day military.

In our present political environment, I think a National Strike could be used to get Government to read our Constitution.

I admit that I've lost my patients with

those who think the US should become a socialist country.

That's NOT what our Founding Fathers had in mind... ie the Constitution, etc.

So, for those who think socialism is SUCH a GREAT idea, I suggest that they should emmigrate TO any one of a number of socialist countries in the world.

Afterall, every citizen of the US is FREE TO LEAVE whenever they want.

What a great country we have! :-)



liberal girls
I had many a liberal girl in college clean my undercarriage. Is that what he meant?
I found most liberal girls like the conservative guy, it didn't bother me if she did agree with me.
Interesting the liberal girls started to hate the liberal guys, they said they wanted to be the girl in the relationship, and not a boyfriend who just acted well, , , biatchy.
Look at who the liberal woman who get married in life, do the marry whiny liberal men, no rich businessmen,
Jame Fonda, Mz magazine founder.
Never found a liberal man who could handle a strong minded woman.
The hippie prof's or usually divorced or hitting on girls 20 years their junior, they can't handle woman with a brain.
I bet most liberal men in here are alone, and just can't figure why their daughters marry the opposite of themselves.
Guess the girls doesn't want two mommies after all.

Untrue American

""ironically, i can name the United States of America as a place where socialism has improved the lives of people. if it weren't for socialism here little boys would still be dying in coal mines and little girls would still be losing fingers in the mills.
capitalism is the worst economic system. it encourages greed, a deadly sin.""

Making laws is not socialism. The government taking operating control of the mines and mills is socialism. There have always been laws, and there always will be in all societies.

There is no capitalist more greedy than government bureaucrats and politicians. And there are no people less accountable to the public. That is what socialism is all about.

Please try and make sense. You might read somethings written by "True Lib". He at least has some idea of what he is saying. You are giving the impression that your moniker is "Truly don't know what I am talking about".

Have you been to school recently.??. Learn to use capital letters. It is not hard once you decide to do same.


True American ....
tons of stuff written by all kinds of folks about the process of building a nation. These guys weren't slouches and they didn't have the distractions of modern times to break their concentration.

And while your at it .... my grandson could use braces and I really don't want to go through the government to get the money as that would be an act of enablement for the government folks. I am delighted that we have met here as I am certain that you wouldn't object to helping out. Could we possibly get together and talk over your financial contribution?

College Kids
"Democracy = dictatorship of the majority. In fact, communism is the highest form of democracy, really.

And you should familiarize yourself with the REAL workers' rights movement, and NOT with the socialist mythology of it."

Please tell me you're joking, Knight. If not, congrats, you're even MORE crazy than I thought you were!


If you want to do well on campus, my first suggestion is to not be afraid of being disgusting and/or offensive. Just call it "challenging." South Park-esque humor will do much more to win over your fellow students than moral pontificating will.

True American: In that small public

school you attend...

Haven't they taught you yet that the first letter of the first word of a sentence, and the first letter of names, it is proper to use the "Upper case?"

Most students learn that before they go to school.

And, as I posted to incognito, you might want to consider that one good reason that you keep getting banned is NOT because of your views, but rather because you're so abusive, hateful, and inconsiderate.





anne
Kcincognito or whats his name is going to need
very havy CHAINS.

True American ...
you are putting 'modern sensibilities' into past times.
Guy I once read said 'times changed, circumstances change, people don't they are a constant.'
So that leaves one with ....
Assume they are mutable and employ every force possible to reeducate them, presupposing that you are verily God and are annointed to do so.
Create simple and just laws and enforce them. Leave people to their own devices.

As far as the 'robber barons' go. What would history have been without them? No one says that J.P. Morgan was a honey, actually, I understand that he was a bit of a lecher. He understood capital. If the world were left to us average Joes we might just be breaking out of the stone age.
As far as Marx goes ... he was a total rotter. He had no love for his own family and lived on that 'higher plain' that the better folks seem to appoint for themselves. Remember, the government has never stopped anyone from paying more than their fair share to help advance the cause of social equity.

Do Hillary and Bill shelter their earnings. Does Al Gore take deductions?
You really have to follow things to their logical farthest conclusion.

MyOpine ....
Happend in China ... the guys in the tanks didn't run the lone person over as they were locals. I think the Chinese have since pulled different troop dispersements, but it is difficult because of regional cultural and linguistic differences. Don't go to the bank with that as I couldn't swear to it, but it is something that I believe I read along the way.
Hey .... world full of information, disinformation .... what's a guy to do? I don't think that I've been more than 20 miles from home in the last twenty something years and then only to see family.

And ... bear in mind that often the troops are called in to quell a disturbance of 'bottle throwing rabble'.

Socialism
True American wrote at 7:38am,

"i would like a little more socialism. medicine and energy ought to be in the government sector."

Socialism in medical care like the government run Walter Reed Hospital?

Socialism in energy as in the 1970s when cars were lined up for blocks just to get a few gallons of gas, all because of government regulation?

Can you name any place in the world where socialism has improved the lives of the people?


gwco2skeptic: Check out..on TH

Bush-Haters Endure Tough Week
By Larry Elder / August 2, 2007

Here's a little except to Elder's exchange with some folks with a "War Is Not The Answer" bumper sticker.

"So you support the war?!" his passenger shouted.

"Gee, I thought, what a sudden change of topics. All I wanted to know, if war is not the answer, then what is?

"The passenger turned purple. "The war in Iraq! And where are the weapons of mass destruction?"

"'Look'," I said, "'I've got some bumper stickers in my trunk that say, 'Beheading Is Not the Answer.' Would you guys like a couple?'"

"F--- off!" they said in unison. Their car roared off.

"Ah, yet another example of the "'return to civility.'"


I guess that's about as civil and rational as we're ever going to get out of most libs.




Irritating radicals a life's work
College is a distant memory for me, but I still enjoy shaking it up sometimes with the lefties. Just because you graduated doesn't mean you can't make a difference with students.

My most recent adventure was an anti-war rally, where I had I sign that read "Fight for equality: crush al Qaeda". This provoked a great deal of hostility from the mostly university student mob. Rather than back down, I marched behind a group of Communists bearing a giant flag with a hammer and sickle, taunting them with comments about how I guess they must think that only Communists get to invade Afghanistan.

I met a couple of fellow conservatives who were also counterprotesting, and even had an intelligent conversation with a liberal (it can happen, albeit rarely). I know conservatives generally don't like to protest, because we're usually too busy accomplishing something. But give counterprotesting a try. It will sharpen your wits and give you something to talk about.

nee & pandm: Remember karennkc?

Sweet little delight that she was?

"-kcincognito aka karennkc aka incognito"

She and Hal Donohue are now teaming up on Burt's column! Sounds like a match made in hell. :-)

Wouldn't be surprised if she will soon be headed to an institution for "really bewildered."








pandm: You should read his vitriol

on Burt Prelutsky' column...

"Confession of a Recovering Democrat"

It appears that he's lost all control of his senses.






Anne
KC is a rabid monkey spewer. She has a blog which I have been to twice. Lost in her own world of "You (as in YOU) people make me sick" all the time and never making cogent arguments, but posting long diatribes. It gets old, doesn't it? Pepp is very busy lately...

lolo
When talking to kids, ya haff ta use kids langueeege.

And i didn't mean you!!

Knight
I read that stuff by Molinaro and frankly, it still sounds quite socialistic.
The marketplace will never meet all the demands despite the fact that everyone would be on seemingly equal ground. What of the people who have no drive, incentive to produce or succeed? Do you just let the marketplace take care of them? Sorry, if I want to give my money away to those who literally cannot produce(handicapped, disabled,perhaps) then I will. But I will not give up what I make because others settle for the status quo. If you really like Molinaro's concepts, then by all means, go live in France.
For the record, there are no "pre-conceived" anythings in my deciding what kind of thinker you are. You are correct, you don't have to tolerate anybody, but calling me clueless makes you no less of a child, nor does the laughter effects of bwahahaha.
With out these so-called monopolies we might be loooking like the USSR.
and If I ever throw a tantrum here over anything, I like to swear and use caps,FYI.

pandm: I think you might be right!

Not just MSM, but he sounds like a protege of Keith Olbermorom. Yikes!

kcincognito does sound like he's ready to do a header right off a cliff. That kind of venom is unbelievable.



anne
kcincognito has lost it--i think
He dictates to his nephew
He calls people monkeys--i wonder who his trainer is
He says we type anonymously--i guess i missed his
name.
He says we round up anyone who looks like a terrorist--Guess he got his "blip" education from
MSM.
I hope he gets help soon!
There is always hope!!

If I didn't know
better I would think my kids wrote this column. However I'm gonna forward it anyway in case there are a few things they missed.

kcincognito
The reason there are no American Patriots(conservatives to you) in colleges,is because if you are not Socialist Liberal, you are not allowed in.
And remember, Conservatives have a higher IQ than
Pickle brain voters--like you.
Who wouldn't work 1 or 2 days a damn week for 80 or 100 thousand $$$.

IS SOCIALISM WHAT YOU REALLY WANT?
You had best think it over long and hard.

Cliff
If you were a soldier with orders to fire on civilians;

Would you be troubled by who's family, friends or neighbor they were?

What would you do if the soldier alongside of you raised his rifle to shoot at your kid sister, father or aunt?

What do you think he would do if that cute little girl in the white sweater you were about to shoot was his sister?

I doubt it would be good for troop morale.
Wonder what the desertion rate would be and which direction most American guns would be pointed?

Umm, kcincognito sounds upset! :-)
.

kcincognito: Thanks for sharing! LOL

Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha





MyOpine: Peppermint or GunnyG?


I did see a few posts by Gunny a week or so ago, but when he's out on assignment, we sometimes don't hear from him often. Check his blog though.

I haven't heard anything from Pepp for some time either. I'll have to email her to find out how she's doing.

Actually, Giles is really pretty good. I try to read his columns as often as possible.

Yes, you know the closer to the truth any columnist is, the more lunatic liberal idiots come out.

Witness above. Pretty amazing, isn't it?


MyOpine ....
But ... But Ma ... It's our good king whatever his name is.

As I said ... my family was here before the revolution and made sport of shooting anything that wore red.
Check out the figures on the percentage of troops who answer in the affirmative when asked if they would bear arms against other Americans. The percentage is growing and why would I ask that question of the troops in the first place? To give them constitutional and religious instruction?

Clif & Loco

pandm ...
the next civil war?

A) The Civil War is not called by families whose roots are in the South, The Civil War.
They refer to it as the War of Northern Agression or the War for Southern Independance.
I, most of whose family was in the Union Army ... tend to agree.

B) A civil 'war' requires grit, determination and men who are able to command and lead. I don't exactly see too many people in states, counties or any other municipality developing local malitia.
The concept is precluded by the politicos who talk freedom at parades but actively dicourage any such reality. A confidence man needs marks and shills.
It would also be inconvenient for the public as that would mean foregoing a trip to the mall.

C) Before you initiate the rebellion .... you had best lay in a good supply of ammo and food.
In the world of what if ... your daily calorie requirements are already counted and even questions of how to counter bad publicity because of possible cannabilism have been discussed.

D) Little Billy the D*cky Waver has consigned the right of the UN with foreign invaders to quell any rebellion in the U.S. I am not certain exactly how that works ... but I am certain that one of the folks on this site will afford you with the exact material to reference.

Do not think for a moment that htese people don't have command of the forces to murder whomever they so desire.

Reflect for a moment on Ruby Ridge and Waco and the Eliab Gonzales abduction. Hell, reflect on MacArthur cleaning out the WW1 vets who wanted their moneys to feed their families.

These are the things that happen when freedom is just another facet of dialectic materialism.


There's A Better Way
I've got a better way of becoming an Effective Conservative Campus Hell Razer - VOTE.

According to the demographics of the US Census Bureau, only 47 percent of citizens 18 - 24 voted in the 2004 presidential election (58 percent registered) compared 72 percent of citizens 55 and older (79 percent registered).

ROCK THE VOTE, my patootey!

Offer to register more young conservatives on campus and in the neighborhood and then help them get to the polling place.

Then, when the election goes your way flaunt your "under 24 year old" voting statistics...in, you know, your "sharp dressed man" clothes.

Anne
Have you seen any posts by Peppermint or GunnyG lately?
They are rather conspicuous by their absense.

I don't usually read Giles.
The wisdome in some of these Liberal posts here is just profound!

Does Giles always attract such intelligent Lib posters?

loco
It is scary indeed, that College Professors will
not allow conservatives to express their views. They
are literally told to shut up.

Liberal news papers & TV will not allow oppsition
contrary to what they believe.

It is a fire they are starting, and will only lead to the next civil war.

All we can hope for is that they come to their senses before bad things happen. We cannot last as a country as long as we're on the present path.

Yeah
... college students are going to learn from THIS thread how to rebel constructively.

Giles is addressing the wrong audience. College kids don't have money; tax- and fee-paying adults have money. If we want the university to change, asking the students to make it happen is bass-ackwards.

Gingrich is right. The worse academia gets, the bigger fools WE are for continuing to heave money at it.

There ARE good colleges and universities where no faux-credentialled Ward Churchills lurk. All is not lost. And sure, students should pack plenty of skepticism and training in critical thought in their backpacks, wherever they go. Some do; many more only think they do.

Possibly the most amazing thing is how colossally wealthy a nation has to be, to keep absent-mindedly throwing its shard-earned money at the tenured denizens of the "soft" liberal arts and science disciplines, the ones who think it's a sign of independence and true love of mankind to wear a Che Guevara T-shirt.

And, the other very funny thing is...

Were a Conservative to post anything NOT liberal on one of the lunatic liberal sites, their posts would be ripped down in a heartbeat!

And I have yet to read a Conservative post...anywhere...that even begins to compare to the vile, loathsome, base, demented, hateful posts the libs have posts here.

No doubt their mothers must be SO proud!







Does anyone know how the lib-idiots

do this?

It appears that they must have "monitors" or "minders" that check out TH on a 24/7 basis, and as soon as a new column is posted, some lib-idiot dispatcher type sends out their best idiots.

However, it IS a hoot! All one can do is laugh!





Anne
If you are calling me a liberal, you insult me as much as the foolish one.

knightof wagh
You act like a little kid.
It your breakfast before you go out to play, and
don't throw rocks at the neighbors cat again...

This is absolutely amazing...starting

with baawa-boo's first post, right on through; one lunatic liberal idiot hit after another.

And what's more, not one of them has anything meaningful, rational, or reasonable to say.

Amazing? What's so amazing is that those irrational, hateful posts are exactly what we've all learned to expect.

Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha



Sorry, KOB
You cannot be educated. You are an obnoxious, terminally naive jackass.

Go kick a puppy.

OK, Fool...
The notion that an INSURANCE COMPANY could muster the necessary resources to protect a country from an attack by, say, the former Soviet Union, is idiotic. And private armies? Gee, I'm sure that I would want a schlup like you in charge of one of those! Private armies created havoc for the Romans. The essay does not take into account the irresistable pull that power exerts over men. Naive, foolish one, naive.

Read It, Foolish One
It is unconvincing and naive, like you, KOB.

You remain the fool. An obnoxious one, to be sure, but still a fool.

Bye bye, sweetcakes.

Can You Read, KOA?
I didn't dismiss anything. I'm wondering if you suffer from perpetual PMS. And your insight is breathtaking -- it's my choice! Brilliant!

However, I am through with engaging in a spraying contest with a skunk. Adios, fool. I'm going to shower.

An Arrogant Assumption
You in your arrogance, KOB, are assuming that I am not reading or will not read the treatise by Hans-Hermann Hoppe. You're full of more crap than a Christmas goose.

Gosh, KOA
I had forgotten that you have the temperament of a rebellious teenager.

K.O.A.
How would you handle national defense? Law enforcement?

How ever they do it
conservative students need to start fighting back. The trouble is... the well documented reta liation of liberal professors who are afraid of facts. Gawd! Thinking of how expensive it is to send a child to college today, I am infuriated at the thought of innocent parents (who have remortgaged homes) having sent their children to college to be indoctrinated with leftist drivel.

you have a very good point there
especially with the bridge,you do have an interesting view of a way for the world to work. unexplored or better.... abandoned territory causes an uneasy feeling (figuratively speaking of course). Enjoyed the dicussion

I am a college student
If a professor lets me talk, they can't win an argument with me. Or once they know they can't win an argument with me they avoid controversy. Sometimes they can't even answer a simple question about what they just said. Sometimes they harmlessly ramble on like a few liberal posters on here.

just examples
perhaps they are. As much as I hate to say it wouldn't government be necessary to provide for basic defense from foreign powers and to provide roads,sewers,etc.? Also to prevent mega corporations from becoming monopolies?

My MAN
Yeah...Doug Giles for President!!!!!

anarchocapitalist
Interesting what is your take on say s company like Blackwater providing for national defense? or Haliburton handling infrastructure? just curious.

Lilly said:
"Jeez Louise, we don't need sociologists, poets, horticulturists, librarians, teachers, artists, physicians, journalists, historians, engineers, scientists, lawyers. This scholarship stuff is a bunch of BS. As a townhall poster said to me a couple of weeks ago, "in the new economy we will need only businessmen". So set your kid up right now to open a plumbing supply outfit or a landscaping service. Or let him become an exterminator like that great American, Tom DeLay. God bless America."

Again, another champion of the "little people" sneers at good, honest jobs that everyone makes use of. Send your kids to college, Lilly. Let them become the best educated file clerks in the nation while my son-in-law pulls down six figures with a high school education and started life with no debt so that he can enjoy his family.

Sickening, isn't it? Your tone dripped elitism. I remember going to a party in the sixties with a young stockbroker I had recently met. Everyone there was recent college graduate except me. After the 10th time of being asked what college I graduated from and then being pointedly dismissed as "beneath" them, I answered the question next time by saying I had graduated from farrier's school. Since no one knew what that was, I was at least not sneered at! Funny thing, I worked my way up in the company I started at and I just retired last week after 40 years and I, too, pulled down 6 figures, working 32 hours. The American dream hadn't died when I started working there!

knightof___baawa__
In a perfect world, where everybody is on your page, there would not be a need for governments.
However, since there will always be those who cannot be controlled except by force, governments will always be necessary.
And those who are in government now, throughout the world, will never relinquish their positions of power.
IMHO

Doug Giles
Excellent article. Proud to say that our 3rd daughter is in college right now and doing all of the above mentioned things. She is hilarious and even the leftist of the left profs love her and her ability to twist and turn the things they say!

lilly
Possibly the young female college journalist could be nicer than to wear a T-shirt that says "Hippies Smell". Probably also she should cover things she disagrees with in the name of balance. But I don't necessarily agree that her and her mother's attitude and actions constitute hate. I can disagree with you or anyone else without hating you. Boy we have gotten sensitive these days.

Knight
What you want is a panacea. There is no way that one can operate with out repercussions. The Boston Tea Party is a great example. Your way means everyone would lack for nothing, right? Well, then, that means I can start copying my currency and just make myself rich. "anarchocapitalist' is code for socialism and it is absurd.
If you are a fiscal conservative, why would you want that?

Sense of humour
That one is the only one you never ought to be without. I have found that you can get people to listen to anything if you can be funny. Not Ha Ha funny, but WITTY -- something that will make them repeat what you said to their friends because it is funny, not realizing that it is also true.

I would also add "Be Trenchant." That is, don't piffle on and on, becoming intoxicated by the sound of your voice and the fact that you have the floor. Keep your speech trenchant, humorous and without ad hominem attacks or responses. And don't just prepare your opening statement -- think about what might come back over the net after you make your serve, and prepare for that too.

The absolutely best example to follow is P.J.O'Rourke.

And always remember that there are people on our side that we wish were on the other side, and do not be afraid to correct the right wingnuts when they go off the rails. You will also gain points with your opposition if you hold everyone to the same standards.

Finally, do not judge people by the way they look. The people who have made some of the most successful franchises in history that way have been plain, size 16 girls who lack perfect hair, Pradas and perky bums.

faster pussycat er
What we in the American Patriot party are trying
to do is impress upon you Liberal Rebels as to the fact that SOCIALISM is NOT in our best interest.
The profs in college are hell bent on TOTAL SOCIALISM for OUR COUNTRY.
Is that what you want?

Knight and FaserPC
knight,You are being intolerant and inadvertently making fun of "Bob" who is a conservative atheist.
FasterPC...the more I read of you the more I know it is true, you were a RINO.
None of you left-minded thinkers ever challenge the status quo or why would there even be welfare? (People would to be responsible for themselves, GASP!)

knightof wagh
Your perscription ran out didn't it!
Take your 'i'm a victim' card to the drug store &
We American Patriots will pay as always.

humor?
Someone wrote:
< < If there anything a lib-idiot can't stand is a sense of humor. >>

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And the liberals say the same thing about the conservatives.

Sadly, both are wrong, because what usually passes for humor is little more than juvenile pot shots, little more than "Rosie is fat" and "Dubya is stupid."

It's annoying, not amusing. "Dhimmicrat" was funny, but not as funny the last three hundred times I've read it as it was the first hundred times. Ditto with "Repugnicans."

If people actually start employing actual humor, then we'll see if the "lib-idiots" or the "neo-conartists" really "can't stand it."

Reverend Giles is really not that funny. He takes cheap shots at people in a way that really makes me shake my head that this guy is a member of the clergy. The only reason he is found to be hilarious is that the reader who thinks that way shares his dislike of who he is taking cheap shots at. It really is juvenile.

And yes, I do say the same thing to people who do the same on the left.

Watch your souces, people
--
Those *Politically Incorrect Guide* books in particular are raddled with incompleteness, inaccuracies, and a great many completely unacknowledged prejudices that can easily lead the narrowly-read individual down a dark alley and get him pole-axed.

Instead, get and maintain an "enemies of liberty" bookshelf. Don't just read your own propaganda, but go for *THEIR* stuff as thoroughly and skeptically as you can. The roots of their own destruction is - most assuredly - in their own voices.

Socialists condemn themselves far more damning than you or I ever could manage the job. Just look at what they say in the run-up to their primaries, when their trying to "mobilize the faithful."

Or look at their theoretical stuff. Gawd, these socialists are some absolutely loathesome people.

If you want to motivate yourself, read the *humor* on the libertarian side. (Face it, there's not much funny about the conservatives, particularly the reigious whackjobs.) P.J. O'Rourke is one of the delights, and H.L. Mencken provides some stuff of classic character.

Above all else, have fun. I brought a copy of Heinlein's *Starship Troopers* into my high school Civics class back in the '60s, and had weeks of merriment "stirring up the animals."
--

largecaliber: Ability to laugh at

oneself IS important. Below is what I posted on BrianR's blog...

"BrianR: Awe gee, you just like me because
I'm a far right wing, gun totin', nut case, who just happens to be a bigot, xenophobe, racist...and oh yeah, I almost forgot, intolerant. (I keep forgetting intolerant!)

"And to think, I didn't know those things about myself until a few months ago. Who knew?? :-)

"And then there is the "bimbo" thing...that the lib-idiots like to call me.

"What a colorful character. LOL"




baawa-boo: above

August, 04, 2007 11:47 PM
"Awww...poor Annie
"She didn't being shown for the hateful wench she is."

He's got a ways to go to catch up to "bimbo" though. Even that makes me laugh. :-)





Robyn: "NEVER lost an argument!"

I don't doubt that for one second.

"Funny what facts can do for an argument"...and being "right."

Probably why we on the "right" have such a good sense of humor... because it's ALWAYS much more fun to be "right." LOL







Anne
I don't think your childish, who was it that call you a wench?

Actually, #6. "Get informed.

Conservative contrarians, you’ve got to get the following books and read them..." is an excellent idea.

I've read a number of the books listed... excellent information.


The sad part is, not one of those books will ever be recommended in any public school..


To the proud mother....
T-shirt caption should read "gd pot smoking hippies smell"

Doug...

Except for grabbing "a nice cigar," you've offered SUPERB ADVICE; unless, of course, the cigar has CONSERVATIVE imprinted on it.

Thanks!

Been there
The best time I ever had in college was in a government class with an old hippie for a professor. The very first class, he came in, kicked off his sandals, pulled on his little gray ponytail and began by attacking the electoral college. My hand shot in the air and from that point on, every class was a very hot debate, followed by my presentation of printed material and book lists for the edification of the prof and the other students. It was great exercise, the other students loved it and I NEVER lost an argument.

Funny what facts can do for an argument...

largecaliber: Of course you couldn't

tell... emotionally or mentally defective people don't have a sense of humor....



knightof
made a funny, gee I couldn't tell.

Well There You Go Again
lc, bringing up all that prayer talk and the next thing you do is end up using that God thing to bash over their heads. (3rd person)

largecaliber: And that's exactly what

it will take... prayer. (And there is NO kidding there.)



Oh geese, roberto is here!

Best to pretend he's a virus, just like baawa-boo.


Anne...
they go on and on complaining about the tea (blogs), ohh they don't make it proper here, do they (unlike kos).

I think they really, deep down, like TH, no vile filth here. I pray that their cold bitter hearts would soften.

largecaliber: Giles IS right!!!!

If there anything a lib-idiot can't stand is a sense of humor.

It is true, however, that the lack of a sense of humor is an emotional deficit.



Ooooh: "Wench!" LOL

Gee, largecaliber, I must be better than I thought. A few weeks ago one of the lunatic idiot-libs called me a "bimbo!" :-)



largecaliber: I agree.. Good laugh!
But Giles always comes up with a few good chuckles in every column.



To K of Bw
Did you see the post last week from the mother who told us how proud she is of her college daughter? The girl works for her university newspaper but refuses to cover community events when she disagrees with their ideology. She refers to her liberal classmates as "hippies" and wears a t-shirt emblazoned "Hippies Smell". Mama told us how proud she is of her daughter.

(Background music to this post should be the ditty from "South Pacific": "You've got to be taught/ Before it's too late/ Before you are six or seven or eight/To hate all the people your relatives hate/ You've got to be carefully taught.")

Excellent column! Giles is spot on!

Which is probably why baawa-boo has his panties in a bunch! LOL





Anne
I liked the part about the tackle box blowing up. That's a keeper.

Anne
Your advice will be taken, many thanks.

WARNING! baawa-boo has already
infected this thread!

We've found that if we just IGNORING him is the best response.

He's kind of like a viral infection. Nothing you can do but let it run its course, and eventually it will just go away.





knightof...
that would be 11,12,13,&14.

And they lack humor, you shouldn't take yourself so seriously. ;)

A Modest Proposal
I have a better idea: don't go to college at all. This alternative was suggested by Newt Gingrich when he hosted a FOX Sunday evening special maybe a year ago. He pointed out that college is very expensive and many of the professors are liberal so why not just invest the cost of a college education when your child is a baby? By the time he or she is thirty, says Gingrich, that sum will have grown so nicely that the kid will have a capital sum to invest in, what else, starting a business.

Jeez Louise, we don't need sociologists, poets, horticulturists, librarians, teachers, artists, physicians, journalists, historians, engineers, scientists, lawyers. This scholarship stuff is a bunch of BS. As a townhall poster said to me a couple of weeks ago, "in the new economy we will need only businessmen". So set your kid up right now to open a plumbing supply outfit or a landscaping service. Or let him become an exterminator like that great American, Tom DeLay. God bless America.
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