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Thursday, January 22, 2009
Diana West :: Townhall.com Columnist
President's Stimulus Plan is an Obamanation
by Diana West
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"That we are in the midst of a crisis is well understood," President Barack Obama told the nation on Inauguration Day. The president can say that again, and no doubt will. But the "crisis" itself is anything but well understood.

What we know for certain is that on or around Sept. 18 -- oddly enough, as AIM's Cliff Kincaid has pointed out, during the polling high point of John McCain's pathetic presidential campaign -- Bush administration Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson convinced former President Bush to abandon all remaining free-market principles and come up with hundreds of billions of bailout dollars from Congress. This not only saved Paulson's "buddies on Wall Street," as CNN's Lou Dobbs put it (not to mention Chinese interests, as Kincaid notes), but also endowed George W. Bush with the unexpected legacy of kick-starting the socialization of the U.S. economy.

We have been in "crisis" ever since, and, despite massive government interventions, markets remain what they call volatile. But mysteries abound. Maybe chief among them a set of September statements by Bush about the possibility that the point of crisis had been precipitated by what he called "illegal market manipulation." As Kincaid asks, "By whom or what? The President didn't say."

Nor has anyone else. This has left tantalizing questions hanging. Alas, curiosity seems to be a casualty of the crisis -- or at least of our media-churned crisis mode, a condition that more closely resembles panic.

Still, such a state gets results, which is surely what White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel meant in November when he said, "You never want a serious crisis to go to waste." Such panic passed the Bush bailout bills in October, it boosted Obama's presidential campaign in November, and it now promises to drive forward Obama's colossal expansion of the Bush bailout strategy, lately euphemistically rebranded as the new president's "American Recovery and Reinvestment Plan."

A question for Obama, then, becomes, how does he maintain a national state of lightly constrained but motivating hysteria? Talking about it helps, as he did on Inauguration Day. The new president didn't simply note our understanding of being "in the midst of a crisis." No, he actually compared our current economic woes to the extremis and near-dissolution of the nascent nation in the its very first winter of war "when," as Barack Obama put it, "the snow was stained with blood." Your 401K plan has taken a hit? Welcome to Valley Forge.

Not surprisingly, The New York Times headline the following day was typical: "Obama Takes Oath and Nation in Crisis Embraces the Moment." But there was another attention-getting headline in that same Times edition, this one on the business page. No, not the story titled "Bank Crisis Deepens: No Quick Fix Likely from Obama Team," a headline that ingeniously gives both juice to the crisis and time to the Obama team. Rather, the column next to it was titled, "It's Bad, But 1982 Was Worse."

What's that? Times writer David Leonhardt, having solicited what he called a "broad measure of the job market ... stretching back to 1970" from economists at the Bureau of Labor Statistics, comes to a shocking conclusion. His research, he writes, "shows, for starters, that the economy is not yet as bad as it was in the early 1980s. It's not even that close to being as bad. The ranks of the unemployed and underemployed, controlling for the size of the population, were much larger in 1982 than today."

Other "indicators of crisis," as Obama called them in his inaugural, were worse back then as well. "Home sales," Leonhardt writes, at their worst in 1982, "were 30 percent lower than they are even now." Additionally, inflation was in double digits, as was the prime interest rate, which peaked at 21.5 percent.

I found myself wondering how Ronald Reagan, entering office in 1981 with high inflation (12 percent) and unemployment (7.5 percent) higher than today (7.2 percent), and a contracting GDP approached hard times. In what turned out to be his first inaugural address, he, too, used the word "crisis" to describe "the economic ills" Americans were suffering. Noting that these ills were a long time coming and wouldn't go away "in days, weeks or months," he said: "But they will go away. They will go away because we, as Americans, have the capacity now, as we have had in the past, to do whatever needs to be done to preserve this last and greatest bastion of freedom."

"In this present crisis," he continued, "government is not the solution to our problem."

There's a twist. In this present crisis, according to the Obama administration and its stimulus-package trillions, government isn't just the solution, it's our only hope.

That's change for you.

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Why not a Tax Holiday????
Congressman Louie Gohmert (TX-1) has a better idea. A TWO MONTH TAX HOLIDAY!!!

http://gohmert.house.gov/Article.aspx?NewsID=1365

Rather than OUR federal government continuing to "siphon off" billions of wage earners' dollars (INCLUDING payroll taxes . . . for those not paying income taxes) and diluting those billions by running them through multiple layers of bureaucracy - only to return SOME of our hard-earned wages BACK to us in a "stimulus package" . . . WHY, pray tell, not just declare a TAX HOLIDAY and SUSPEND collecting income and payroll taxes for a period of time??? I guess that just makes too much sense and is too easy to do - something Washington is INCAPABLE of comprehending!

It would result in an IMMEDIATE stimulus for the economy whether people saved it (creating money banks could lend), or spend it (stimulating the production of goods and services and creating jobs)!

Of course, we could leap frog into the Fair Tax Act (H.R. 25) which would accomplish this same thing - permanently!

Fair Tax now!!!! http://www.FairTax.org

Stimulus plan/bill
Does anyone know where I can see a copy of this plan and/or bill? I'd like to see for myself what amount of money is going where and to whom.
Thanks!

Stimulus Plan is an Obamanation III !!!
I wrote this in Oct 2008 timeframe:
WAY too much hysteria out there! I say no bailout! Paulson is just trying to “bail out” a few of his big bucks buddies at taxpayers’ expense. America better completely disregard this bozo and look at the problem from a clean slate approach. Flow chart and diagram in detail the whole Ponzi scheme of the financial industry. Determine exactly what went wrong and why. Assign fair blame and seriously punish wrongdoing. Create new, better rules/laws to make the financial industry more honest, transparent, and accountable. Include “just right” oversight by regulatory agencies. This will take time, lots of time but if we don’t want a repeat of this or worse in 5-10 years then we need to do it right…now. Oct 3, 2008 - 12:52 PM EST

Questions, rhetorical questions: Will the taxpayer, who is being saddled so far with a mindboggling 8.5 trillion dollar bailout ever get reimbursed? If so, how? The way I understand it so far is that money is being showered on these greedy incompetents/crooks on Wall Street with little assurance that we’ll recoup anything. I bet government can’t even track and account, accurately if at all, where the moneys are going and for what. Even if moneys will be repaid, it will be to the U.S. Treasury and, to my knowledge, no provisions in the bailout legislation addresses how the moneys returned to the treasury will be repatriated back to the taxpayer. What I strongly suspect will happen is that if by a miracle any moneys flows back into government coffers the temptation by the politico thieves will be to use the moneys to fund their programs or as a slush fund to bail out some other government caused disaster (like they already do with Social Security) without any of it ever returned to the originator, the taxpayer. It all smacks of an advanced taxing scheme without representation. I feel the shackles being clapped on my ankles and wrists already!

Stimulus Plan is an Obamanation II !!!
Wrote this back in Sept 08: Plenty of blame to go around (government & Wall Street & to a lesser degree consumers) but in order for this kind of stinking pile of manure to NOT repeat itself it has to be investigated impartially, get to the real root causes, identify criminal activity and its perpetrators, severely punish crime (none of this slap-on-the-hand justice of “white collar” crime which has caused more turmoil and damage than a division of serial killers), and, finally, re-engineer a sane, not overly complex, transparent financial system with checks and balances. Government, with their history of screwing up everything they touch needs to be scrutinized the most for all the collusion with financial types and their lukewarm to hands-off approach to regulation enforcement. What are the chances of this happening? ZERO!

Stimulus Plan is an Obamanation!!!
A Better Stimulus Plan: Bloated government must be forced to simultaneously reduce spending, maybe not by $800B, but substantially to a more lean and efficient bureaucracy. Pipe dream? Not if the people actually demonstrate their concerted will.

INCREDIBLE incompetence by government! This is YOUR future money (not even earned yet) being squandered by blowhard politicians who don't have a clue what they are doing. To bolster their dumb as dirt schemes they consult so called “experts” that will validate their totally wrongheaded thinking. The “experts” are at least as dumb and/or delusional. All one has to do is look at the long history of economic failures to see that government intervention at this juncture will only make things worse. Common sense tells you likewise.

Shareholders’ Revolt? Absolutely! Folks, it's your children’s future which is at stake, both in the horrendous tax burden to pay off the debt and the interest on the debt but also on a behemoth and oppressive government with greatly reduced liberties. There are other options: 1) Tax holiday for 6 months combined with serious government belt-tightening starting with a 20% reduction in the politicos' salaries and perks and further future reductions for poor performance.
2) Let the private sector self-correct without bailout or stimulus. Reform the financial industry in the right way (minimum government intervention and maximum private sector accountability).
3) There are others but less do-able.

cut and paste 2
Not Canada, but select states, and not eventually but now. People, PLEASE start thinking on this as one of the means by which to bring transformation about in this country, transformation meaning a true Constitutional government. To start off with true conservatives(libertarians ok too) leave "lost" states like NY and California, move to these 4 states to start off with; Oklahoma, Texas, Tennessee, and Virginia. Really what do the "lost" states offer? This will also enable us to so change the demographics of certain states to "own" them. In "owning" certain states we will be able to more forcefully address the Constitutional issues, or even secede if need be. I too want to avoid armed retaking of our rights and powers, and see this as a much better alternative, or at least something that will hold off the need for another Revolution.

cut and paste 1

new ideas?
What new ideas? I thought we already had a Constitution. Here's a novel thought, Don't vote for anything for which you have no Constitutional merit as given in Article 1, Section 8; Every bill that comes through to illegally appropriate money beyond that which Article 1, Section 8 stand up and tell the rest of your colleagues in Congress that to vote yes it to violate their oath and the law, and that they will be held accountable by the people; Then go have press conferences decrying these crimes and rouse the people; keep doing this until we have Constitutional government or the people rise up and take back what they temporarily ceded as stated in the ratifications of the Constitution. How's that for new ideas? Any Repub willing to stand up and do this? I got his back.

government the solution?
It's not just that government isn't the solution(really if one examined all that the Federal government does one could see that in so many indirect ways it hurts the economy), It's that the bailout, job creation, minimum wage, etc. are UNCONSTITUTIONAL. Think about what is really going on. Out in the open, criminal gangs are discussing how to illegally "appropriate" our money. How so? In that as the Constitution only gives AUTHORITY to a certain point, any actions beyond that are illegal and only brought about through the combination of ignorant compliance(well a lot of willing compliance also) or force. How force? You try telling the IRS they can't take your money; they either take it from your account or send force to take your possessions. Solutions? I got some..

Fletch
Where are you Fletch? I never took you for a "Coward", like Dr. Sowell. I am waiting for you?

Government is here to stay
Government is often the problem. And individuals trying to take advantage of what the government has reaped are also part of the problem. Greed, corruption, and self aggrandizement are often the results of government but more often a failure of the individual. What else can attempt to solve the problem? Government has to be part of the solution. What can solve the inclinations of people?

Allen
You, like those who have posted here today,are too stupid to understand economics. Why try? Americans send out $80,000,000,000.00 to foreign governments every year,for energy cost. I am going to make this simple; 20% of 80 is 16. Translation; A 20% savings in our energy cost allows "US" to keep $16,000,000,000.00. This is money we can use to provide more jobs,etc. Some Americans are so "Stupid" on economic matters,that it's an insult to the rest of us. If you do not have a PHD in economics,be quiet. Please...We got this, STUPID!!!

BLAGOJEVICH, BURRIS, OBAMANOMICS
Excerpt from Blagojevich, Burris, Obamanomics and the Bungled Oath

"The 71 year old Burris was born on August 3, 1937 in the 7th year of the Great Depression 77 days before October 19th (called the Second Black Tuesday) when the Stock Market crashed and the employment gains made by FDR’s New Deal were reversed with three million people losing their jobs over the next few months. Called “Roosevelt’s recession,” or “the Depression within the Depression” the American economy would continue to erode until 1940 when U.S. exports began to surge because of the war. In short, Burris is a warning to the nation about the perils of Obamanomics a badly flawed economic plan modeled on the failed New Deal. It is a warning that Obama’s blind faith in government solutions is likely to backfire as it did for FDR, and that he could end up prolonging the current crisis or dramatically worsening it.

But Burris is not the only warning about the dangers and pitfalls of Obamanomics; adding to the portentousness of his appointment by the corrupt and delusional Blago was the earlier appointment of Ted Kaufman the man picked to replace Joe Biden as U.S. Senator from Delaware. For like Burris the 69 year old Kaufman-a long time Biden aid-was born during the Great Depression sometime in 1939 the year when unemployment hit 20% and Henry Morganthau, FDR’s Treasury Secretary and confidante, sadly confessed to Congress that the New Deal was a failure."

Click ApolloSpeaks to read the rest of the piece





camanintx #8
Government forced the banks to make loans that could not be paid back.

Before handing out the billions to the banks, nobody in congress had the thought that, maybe they should make the banks mark, "Paid in Full", for every mortgage on a primary residence held by each bailedout bank, just so the people could see that it wasn't a total, just a partial waste of our tax money? As it is, the banks have all that money, and they're still collecting on the mortgages.

A real stimulus plan
We the people pay all taxes, and we are the only ultimate source of all tax revenue. Regardless where government initially collects the money, all tax money ultimately comes from us, the people.
Since we the people are the one and only source of all tax revenue:
There should be only one tax to collect all tax revenue.
It should be a single, simple, fair, direct, graduated, individual, full-income tax levied on living persons for each level of government: One Tax and Done.
You cannot convince a person or a corporation to start a new business or expand an existing business, increase jobs, and hire new employees, when you tax away the operating capitol he is using to operate his PRESENT business
The best thing that government can do to help the country, the people, and even government, is to repeal all of the many hundreds, or thousands of existing taxes, fees, and charges. These taxes are the federal deficit. These taxes are the high price of everything. These tax eliminations are spending cuts. Every tax that is eliminated is a tax that we the people no longer have to pay. These taxes are the difference between the price we pay for health care and everything else, and the price we would pay if these taxes were repealed. Eliminating these taxes will remove them from the price paid for everything by everyone.
One Tax and Done will provide many benefits to all, even government:
One Tax and Done will reduce the price paid for everything by one-third.

Feed a crisis starve the economy
Until people are no longer upside down and banks are giving loans and not foreclosing things are going to get worse. The quickest fix would be to change the mark to market rule which might help banks to carry loans.

Not likely this will happen though. At least not until Congress gets it's hands on the cash. We better be ready and find some nice place to put our money when the inflation is back to 20%.

Where should the government invest the new funds? Wind generators that will not give more than 5% of the nations power or something that could supply 100% of the nations electrical power needs. Ahh shucks let's go with wave power since that isn't going to amount to 5%.

you learn something new every day
So Bush manufactured an ecomomic crises to sink McCain's campaign and begin the process of converting us into a communist state. The world is certainly an interesting place in West's mind. The real world is so much more mundane.

Obama's
fix to the economy is like throwing a jelly filled doughnut into a weight watchers convention and hope they lose weight.

just a thought
Wonder how come no in the media, ever puts any actions by the Federal government up to the light of the Constitution? Just a stupid thoughtless question.But boy wouldn't it be fun for just a week.

Obamanation
how original. The whining continues.

if we had $2,000,000,000,000
that went to the Iraq debacle, we would be in a much better position to deal with this mess. The fact that most Republicans cannot acknowlege just how mismanaged Iraq was is worse than the Democrats who used to make every excuse in the world for "welfare queens" and to say how wonderful "midnight basketball" is -- but not for their own kids. Some Republicans warned GWB before he did what he did (Brent Skowcroft especially) -- even his father's own book explained why such operation would have been a bad idea. I have heard no "Christian Republican" say anything about the utter devasation caused to Iraq's Christian community in the past 5 years. Sadaam Hussein had no organized movement against Christians -- but many militias today do (hence 1/2 are gone or dead, and their Churches -- some nearly 1000 years old -- have been burned and destroyed).

Diana writes:
"In this present crisis," he continued, "government is not the solution to our problem."

There's a twist. In this present crisis, according to the Obama administration and its stimulus-package trillions, government isn't just the solution, it's our only hope.

That's change for you.
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Since economists agree that the 1982 recession was caused by a contractionary monetary policy established by the Federal Reserve System, Reagan was correct that government was the problem.

The current economic crisis was caused by a collapse of the sub-prime mortgage market because banks were loaning people more money than they could afford to pay back. If government wasn't the problem this time then maybe it can be the solution.

So!
So! What's new? Government is not the solution but the problem. Always has been; always will be! It is just the degree of the problem that really matters! We need to work very hard reducing government as the problem!

Obamanation
AFLAC DUCK CALLS FOR BARACK OBAMA'S ARREST?
READ IT AT, http://stopthepresses2.blogspot.com/search/label/Aflac%20D uck

Reagon was right!
The government is now and always been the problem. I was not a taxpayer at the time(I was only 8 at the time), but I was still nonetheless effected through my parents. They were and still are Democrats. They did realize that the only way to get out of the situation was to get the govenment out and let the people work their way out. Did the government help? yes, they did,but on a limited basis. We are Americans! We are truly a Capitolist Nation. Sorry for the spelling! Pubilic Education! We are the owner of this problem due to the fact that we elected these Jeerks in the the House and Senate. So it will only be fitting if we got ourslves out of it! The only Problem is now Obama and the Liberails who want to pay God, and protect us from ourselves.

it doesnt help
that ignorant people believe a larger government will help them.

For being 'smart' Obama has NO-COMMON SENSE.

Time to start impeachment movement?
Is it too soon to throw this intellectual wimp out of office?

He is anti-American and at his core, a race/social agitator.

The Real Crisis
is that an entirely liberal government, including many republicans, has an excuse to make government so big and intrusive that the country will never recover.

Obamanation?
You're much to civil Diana !

Obomination is more deserving spiced w/ several descriptive adjectives that would be appropriate don't you think???
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