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Monday, November 17, 2008
Carol Platt Liebau :: Townhall.com Columnist
The Four Hard Lessons of Campaign 2008
by Carol Platt Liebau
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In the wake of stinging defeats in this year’s presidential and congressional elections, Republicans are now engaged in the difficult work of finding the way forward. Their mission is simple, but not easy: To rebuild their party’s brand by reworking and re-presenting its principles in a way that retains the indispensable – a commitment to liberty and justice for all – while developing fresh ideas, and fresh faces to articulate them. A painful but necessary part of the process also requires Republicans to identify and correct mistaken assumptions operative in the 2008 presidential campaign.

From the McCain campaign, it is possible to draw solid conclusions about what doesn’t work for Republicans. In the spirit of learning from the past to avoid repeating it, it’s worth reviewing some of the lessons of 2008.

1. It is impossible for any Republican presidential candidate to garner favorable mainstream media coverage, so long as s/he represents the more socially conservative electoral choice.

Certainly, the media’s swooning adoration of Barack Obama was unprecedented, and may in part have been attributable to the historic nature of his candidacy. But given that John McCain was once the most popular Republican with the press (and even jokingly referred to journalists as his “base”), he might reasonably have expected something more than the unremittingly hostile coverage that the mainstream media served up – even as his opponent enjoyed a largely free ride.

But here’s the fact: So long as Republicans represent the party of social conservatism, the press will always favor their opponents. John McCain’s popularity peaked when he was a competitor to (or thorn in the side of) the more socially conservative George W. Bush. Even this year, The New York Times’ primary endorsement of McCain represented nothing more than an effort to support him over the more vocally conservative Mitt Romney. As soon as McCain won the nomination – and became by default the most socially conservative choice for president – The New York Times unloaded all over him, bookending his campaign with a shoddily researched report on his alleged affair with a lobbyist and an ugly, deeply personal attack piece on his wife.

Going forward, Republicans must find a way to overcome the press bias favoring the more socially liberal candidate. Strategies for reaching over the heads of the mainstream media – whether by establishing an internet presence for the GOP, working more closely with talk radio, or crafting strategies to offer candidate interviews or breaking news to favorable (or at least fair) news outlets – must be among the party’s first order of business.

2. Campaign finance “reform” will always have a disproportionately negative impact on Republicans.

In one of politics’ great ironies, the campaign finance reform legislation that John McCain created ultimately crippled his campaign (especially after Barack Obama broke his word and declined public financing). Given the press’ liberal leanings, laws that stifle competing voices have a disparate – and negative – impact on Republicans, who need independent campaigns to counter the media’s influence and get the conservative message out. Unfortunately, McCain-Feingold has inhibited independent campaigns, thereby enhancing the press’ position as the dominant provider of political information to voters.

3. Republicans can’t win over Latinos through appeals on the illegal immigration issue.

John McCain never regained the support among rank-and-file Republicans that he squandered by his advocacy of McCain-Kennedy immigration “reform,” which would have effectively offered amnesty to millions of illegal immigrants. Whether or not it proved decisive in his defeat, the lack of enthusiasm among the base certainly hurt McCain.

So what did he gain politically from his advocacy of the “path to citizenship”? Not much. In fact, 67% of Latinos backed Barack Obama. Latino immigrants favored Obama by a 78% margin, lending crucial support in states like Indiana, Virginia and North Carolina. The moral of the story: Republicans will never be able to win over Latinos by aping Democrat positions on illegal immigration. Democrats support legalizing poor and under-educated people already in this country in the hope that they will become new clients of an expanded welfare state, and hence reliably Democratic voters. Mimicking liberal enthusiasm for legalizing illegal immigrants only puts Republicans in a perpetual “me too but less” posture that ultimately gains them nothing.

Certainly the GOP must do more to make sure that Latinos understand that their opposition to illegal immigration has nothing to do with hostility either to immigration in general or Latinos in particular; rather, it is about honoring the rule of law. But even more importantly, along with continuing their support for the traditionalist social positions embraced by most Latinos, Republicans need to explain why economic freedom and small government will do more than government handouts to help hard-working and upright new citizens achieve the American dream.

If Latino outreach becomes nothing more than a bidding war over government benefits, the Democrats will always win. What Republicans need to find is a message that helps the debate break out of that box – and the communicators to deliver it effectively.

4. “Mavericks” end up leading a party of one.

For almost his entire Senate career, John McCain prided himself on his status as a “maverick.” In doing so, however, he alienated a good number of regular Republicans who would have contributed more and worked harder to elect a candidate about whom they were more enthused.

“Mavericks” like McCain seek and welcome the support of independents. Unfortunately for McCain, however, independent voters are the ones who are most driven by events, rather than ideology. Had he run at the end of the tenure of an unpopular Democrat president, McCain might have been fine. Instead, he was left with a base that was more excited about its vice-presidential nominee than the presidential one, and a horde of independents who – in light of the financial crisis and the long, unpopular tenure of President Bush – decided to take a chance on “change.”

* * *

Whatever the flaws in the conception or execution of his campaign, certainly John McCain is a brave and honorable man who has served his country with distinction. Perhaps even in defeat, he may likewise do his party a service – if its members can learn the hard lessons his loss has taught all of us this year.

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Carol Platt Liebau is an attorney, political commentator and guest radio talk show host based near Los Angeles. Learn more about her new book, "Prude: How the Sex-Obsessed Culture Hurts Young Women (and America, Too!)" here.

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America is suffering
America is suffering unlawful deception from the Alinsky group.
Group u$urp$ power on January 20th—the constitution violated.
The United States Supreme Court alone can relieve this outrage.

example: Bogus Selective Service System FOIA Registration?
http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2008/11/exclusive_d id_n.html

Even Harder Lessons
Hard Lesson 5: "Moderates" and "Independents" are mostly phantoms, & even those who're real undecided people cannot be reached by "being moderate." That's just plain silly & futile. You can only reach undecideds by persuading them on the merits of your principles & programs. That's impossible if you basically stipulate the other side's position but say you'll do less of it.

Hard Lesson 6: A party & candidate in a "2-party system" that basically concedes & stipulates all the important basic issues to the other side, & just makes a show of quibbling mildly over degrees and details, is useless & worthless.

A GOP that won't debate or engage the Dems on their agenda, nor will stand up & champion conservatism (given that the Dems proclaim its opposite), is worse than useless; it serves no valid purpose except to sit in the way, take up space, & suck up the oxygen, from any real conservative opposition.

Unfortunately, that's exactly what certain people want.

Take action against biased Media
Repy # 18 Bankrupt the Media.

I agree and there is something to be done I don't know if any are familiar with Bret Bozell but he is well renowned writer and contributor to Town hall. His Website has already gotten 160,000 signatures on a petition to bring the Main Stream Media to account. Go to link and read and sign petition and then email to everyone on your list. I'd say millions of signature is what we should be aiming for.
http://www.mrcaction.org/500/petition.asp?PID=18822310&NID= 1
If this link doesn't work go to MRC Action

Phoney Games For the Naive
Re points 1 & 4: McCain was basically a creation of Democrats, Rockie Republicans, & the pop media. They wanted him to be the nominee but NOT THE POTUS, so that conservatism would not be a possible choice this election regardless of what happens.

(Unless, JM had gotten elected, then immediately succumbed to something so that Palin would take the office immediately!)

That which the pop media creates can be destroyed at will by the pop media.

Re point 2: "campaign finance reform" has always been a bogus game of trying to cut off the opposition (e.g. challengers, 3rd parties) from their support. It has nothing to do with reforming anything actually in need of reform. It's a way of sidestepping freedom of speech.

JM should have known so; that alone demonstrates he's either stupid or deliberately attacking conservatism.

The subtext & hidden agenda this election has been alienating & freezing out conservatives & conservatism from American politics.

Re point 3: Identity politics is a Democrats' game. None others need even attempt it. A black/female socialist Dem should be elected because of his/her sex or race regardless of qualifications; a black/female Republican, esp a conservative one who rejects ID politics, would be reviled as "inauthentic" & "self-hating" & the like.

Revenge of the 1965 Immigration Act
Teddy "the swimmer" Kennedy has the last laugh. The 1965 I.A. purposefully was designed to lower the percentage of caucasian Americans by means of mass immigration of the 3rd world.

Preference was (and is currently) given to Latinos, Asians and Arabs/Muslims. The percentage of black Americans has not significantly changed in our country for a long, long time, a century or more.

I am for legal immigration in low numbers for the next 10-20 years, since we have been living under high immigration for the last 20-30 years. Balance needs to return.

Mexico continues to be the biggest problem with respect to immigration. Most Mexican "immigrants" are illegal aliens, who wind up using fake or stolen ID's, commit social security fraud, income tax evasion, driving without a license, etc.

The only solution is deportation, in large numbers. Otherwise, there will be no fear of coming here, working here illegally. The rule of law dictates that enforcement must be made in order to restore integrity to the system.

But we must change the mindset of Mexicans and the Mexican government. They mistakenly believe they have some God-given right to "migrate" to Norte Latino Americano. Mexico's chronic corruption must be changed. Will it? Not likely. It's the culture, stupid. So you see, we're back to culture. Race/culture matter. A lot.



Obama Paid For Publicity
Good grief, Republicans. Obama has been strategizing as a "community organizer" and with his "professor" friends and his friends from across the oceans on how to raise enough money to buy up all the commercial ads that buried McCain and Palin after he lied to McCain and broke his promise about campaign funding. People are like sheep. Obama told them what he was going to do to them and they didn't hear a word he said. He was confident because he had ACORN out there bidding for him in every state and every major station promoting him on TV and radio 24/7. It wasn't about what McCain did wrong or Palin did wrong. It was all about an agenda that was well planned out for a very long time in my opinion and unprecedented amounts of money to bury the opponent. No one competing in a race with people registering fraudulent voters and money coming in from across the oceans as well as in the U.S. was tsunami that was also unprecedented in the presidential race and hopefully will not be repeated as the news wasn't objective and wasn't fair and failed the American people. It wasn't all about race or voters, there was much more involved in this race than people are recognizing and there is a agenda that is supported by the passion of radicals who want to "change America and "unionize" America and "nationalize" America and possibly bankrupt America since those involved in this socialist movement are also involved in the intentional or unintentional misrepresentations and mismanagement of America's tax dollars while they continue to promote their own and redistribute our wealth of tax dollars to their own and want to add more burden upon us. Remember, a country can be enslaved when they are made homeless.

mc lame hater, edward from ca.
Mc lame-you hit it on the head! But Mitt is not going to run again!

Edward-latino voters? Legal? My wife of 42 years is mexican sooo be careful as to not judge me as a racist! I will give you some math.
2 many illegals, a 2 many liberals= 4 gotten
america!
elvis

National Primaries Are Needed, Too!
The time has come whereby reliably Blue States like Iowa and New Hampshire should have no first say whatosever, nor should any other States have first say whatsoever in who will be the nominee of the Parties. This will eliminate the "bandwagon effect" and force Americans to learn more abouttheir candidates on their own instead of being force-fed and spoon-fed Happy Horse Hockey and lies and bias from the Establishment Liberal and heavily NYC-biased MSM and even heavily NYC-biased talk radio, which was all falling over itself going ga-ga for Guiliani. I forgot how many times he was on Sean Hannity's talk radio and tv show; it was innumerable. We should have a system like Great Britain's where every candidate is allowed a 30 minute infomercial whereby they can explain to the electorate who they are, what they stand for, and why you should vote for me instead of brand X. In Great Britain, the MAINSTREAM MEDIA IS OBLIGED BY LAW to give this free airtime to the candidates as a condition of maintaining its operating communications license. This would immensely help Conservative 3rd Parties to gain much needed ground to save America, and would guarantee that Conservative candidates do not ever get blackballed in the media as we so evidently saw this go-round. You cannot ever underestimate the diabolically evil capabilities of a NYC media that hails from a city that is 80% Liberal. Even Fox News was blackballing many Conservatives. Now, with the Dems in power for many years to come and the GOP as God-awful stupid as they come, none of this will ever happen; I am not delusional, but we can always dream about what could have been had we had politicians with more common sense.

Illegal immigrants are law-breakers.
You don't have to hate Latinos to have been against McCain-Kennedy. It was to have been a bonanza for immigration lawyers whose fees were to have been paid by US.

And new immigration judges were to be drawn from the ranks of immigration lawyers, who already felt an affinity for their poor, down-trodden clients.

The absurd "fines" and "penalties" that were proposed: Pay two years' back taxes. No, pay 2 out of 5 years. Can't pay all back taxes? No, pay a fine. How about $2,000? No? $1,000?

Some of these illegals paid smugglers $5 to $20 thousand. They should jolly well cough up at least $10,000 or more as a fine. They'd have to send less than their $25billion home.

And it isn't just "Latinos" to whom a lot of us objected, although the thousands of Mexican flags under which they were marching in protests in April '06 would indicate that's who is here to "reconquista" Mexifornia.

Perhaps they have lived under thoroughly corrupt governments for so long that they simply felt more comfortable and at-home with a left wing politician from Chicago.

Emigration - Cont'd...
I'm telling you, People: Short of an act of Almighty God, we have a dauntingly impossible task of reclaiming the culture and the politics. Socialism and the Welfare State are about to be released at a force heretofore unrecognized in this country. The first thingthey will do very shortly is the Global Poverty Act. It has passed the House and Biden's Senate Committee on a VOICE VOTE ALREADY, and we all know what those Liberal GOP nutjobs in the Senate will do!!!! This legislation will create a PERMANENT 7% GDP tax that will go directly to the UN every year to pay ostensibly for "world poverty". We all know that money will go to support and grow Communist and Muslim dictatorships in the Congo and elsewhere. The tax for this year alone will be $840 BILLION DOLLARS of your taxpayer money. Now that's what I call some serious "change"!!! The insanity of DC boggles the mind and defies reason. DC is now officially "D.emocrat C.ity" a.k.a. the "D.istrict of C.riminals." I do not have enough faith that our State leaders in Conservative States will have enough sense to divorce themselves from this Union of Fools that no longer even honors its agreement with the States known as the US Constitution. This USSR, United States Socialist Republic, in DC now threatens our very survival as a nation. The only viable option short of Secession is Emigration. The government in DC is NOT the government OUR STATES agreed to join when they signed the Constitution many years ago. It's time to go!

Smartest Option: Emigrate from the USA
Both the anti-American GOP and Democratic Parties of Corporate PC whores in DC will illegally grant Amnesty soon in a matter of months to millions of Illegal Alien Criminals. This will be the official death knoll for Conservatism for years to come. With this apostate Socialist government in DC now officially no longer representing Conservative Americans whatsoever, it is time we Conservatives started thinking waaaayyy outside the box about making the ultimate voter protest: with our feet and our money. Our forefathers left tyranny, insanity, oppression, corruption, persecution, no economic opportunity, and dysfunctional government for a better life elsewhere. This is a perfectly normal thing to do when a government and a people have lost its mind. I believe gradually in time we will see more and more Conservative Americans apply for emigration & citizenship elsewhere. Conservatism will never come about again until America is brought to her knees, and this will be a very painful process. God's Judgments on America are already just beginning, but they will get MUCH WORSE! Our biblically illiterate idiots in both parties have divided the land of Israel which God has strictly warned against in His Bible with serious consequences. At this stage of the game, Liberals are pandemic in every aspect of society from the church to the kindergarten, from the college classroom to the CEO's boardroom, and at every level and echelon of government bureaucracy in DC.



Mario from Florida
Since MSNBC never explained this to you, allow me.

A failure of Republicans is not a failure of conservatives.

Bill Clinton after two years was very un-popular. Then in 1994 Congressman Newt Gringrich began to promote the "conservative" Contract with America.

Bill Clinton signed 7 of the ten items from the contract into law. Bill Clinton popularity increased with each and every item he signed.

Conservatism is alive and well. Republicans will now have to work to regain the support of conservatives.

Fresh Face
How about Michael Steele? I would LOVE to see a debate between him and Obama.

Love this
1. It is impossible for any Republican presidential candidate to garner favorable mainstream media coverage, so long as s/he represents the more socially conservative electoral choice.


Correction: It is impossible for any non-Democrat presidential candidate to garner favorable mainstream media coverage.

Lord Help Us

Republicans may have to accept their second fiddle status for some time (especially now that the US Government is succeeding in its WASP genocide, with the help of the Wall Street Journal, Ted Kennedy, John McCain, George Bush, the republican media, and a certain powerful Christian church).

It is important to stay with your principles, even when they are unpopular.

Mrs. Liebau, if winning is so important, maybe you could join the democrats?










Senator McCain
Was never a Republican, and should never have represented the Republican Party on the national ticket. The only good thing he did at that level was select Sarah Palin as his running mate. She was much more qualified than any of the other three. What this columnist is saying is that you cannot hold Republican principles and expect to win. It is true that you will never get the support of the mainstream media, but you can win. The last conservative we had in office was President Regan, but he shows it can be done, if you have principles and stick to them. We need to build on that and find someone who has principles and will stick to them.

Tim @ 1:40 wrote
"Hey Darkness Fish !

Let Me make somethin' Crystal Clear To You ,Right Here,Right Now !

When I referred to "Reaching Across The Aisle " That,in NO WAY means Any Approval or Any Admiration,where Feingold,Kennedy,Lieberman,Gang of 14 ,Opposing Tax Cuts and Supportin' The Bailout Scam are concerned."

Take it easy, man!

I was AGREEING with you and slamming McCain!

Jim

Evidence for Big Mick being right
Note the prohomo Christian haters and the Moronic Mythical Middle "Moderate" FLAT(ulent) Earth Isolationist Bush Haters are out in force. "Quagmire" my asz. Hey Stevie, we deal with Iran by bombing the Sandnazis back to the STONE AGE!

Same Stevie "you racists" crap that got many of you Buying LOSER McShame, ain't it children? Go back and LOOK! SAME CRAP!

Listen to these Commiqrs at your peril!

The Big Mick

Mario in FL
I assume then you are making the argument that Liberal Democrats are sources of virtue. I know all Americans aspire to be like Reid, Pelosi, Frank and Dodd. In your ignorant rant I did not see one example of Conservatism being dead. Please list a recent example where conservative principles have failed. In the most recent election Obama ran on tax cuts for 95% of the country not exactly a liberal position.

Well DUH!
Everybody now has an assignment.
Go back and see who (like Coulter, Malklin, Levin, Sowell, Keyes, and me though I'm not in that universe, much less league) was saying these patent Truths before and DURING the Mack the Knife pseudo-candidacy. Does anyone recall how I did a series on my Town Hall Blog (The Big Mick) about the McCuses the McHos were using to cover their uppedrumps?

THE TRUTH WAS TOLD, and some, even here on TH refused, to believe it, chosing instead to embrace the Ranger Robber 29 PerBert Moronic Mythical "Moderate" agenda.

Here's part B of the assignment. Note which TH McHos who rumpedup for McAin't are now waxing Pontifical about "The Hard Lessons".

HEY McHos! They didn't HAVE to be HARD!

All you had to do was LISTEN to the TRUTH!

Which IS that the McChurian Candidate was NEVER about anything other than SHAMNESTY and Killing Reaganism (among other reasons to norm homosex)!

The Dumbolcrap Commieqrs are the Party of Parasites, Perverts and Prevaricators. You want to win? TRIANGULATE the NATURAL
CONSERVATIVES (Reaganites) in the Dim constituences who have natural antipathy TOWARD the Core Commiqr groups SUCH AS Reconquistas and homopushers! White Working Class Labor folks for instance! Read between the lines and that's the REAL TRUTH here! We can't win with and don't want prohomomos RINOs like Ranger Robber. WE WANT anti-homo and anti-amnesty Reagan Democrats. You get em by being MORE REAGAN CONSERVATIVE!
DUH! Indeed!
You gut SUCKERED BIG TIME, lads. Some of us TOLD ya!

mick

Carol Platt Liebau has it wrong
Carol Platt Liebau writes: "Their mission is simple, but not easy: To rebuild their party’s brand by reworking and re-presenting its principles "

WRONG.

The GOP doesn't need to present a set of abstract principles.

Rather, the GOP needs to present a set of relevant POLICIES for the issues that polls show Americans care most about:

Economy: How to rescue it without repeating the same mistakes that got us in this mess.

Foreign policy: How to deal with Iran without another Iraq-style quagmire war.

Health Care: How to ensure that a worker who loses his job won't lose his health insurance, even if he's unemployed and can't afford the premiums himself. (If you keep calling every health care reform proposal "socialism," you can kiss the next election goodbye.)

for Jay
Jay rants: "The infestation of our country by the latinos is the #1, overriding reason why Republicans are doomed."

(***flagged as OFFENSIVE***)

The infestation of the GOP by racists like you is the overriding reason why the GOP can't appeal to anybody but white males.

for jerabaub
jerabaub writes: "It is a bit too convenient to blame it on McCain or mavericks."

The Republicans are living in denial about how awful a president Bush really was.

I rank Bush as one of the five worst presidents in U.S. history, right up there with Jimmy Carter (and maybe even worse than Jimmy).

The GOP doesn't realize it needs a new foreign policy, because it's still supporting the Bush policy.

for McLame Hater
McLame Hater writes: " No more open primaries, either "

IMPOSSIBLE. In several states like New Hampshire, open primaries are mandated by STATE LAW.

The GOP can refuse to seat the delegations that win the primaries. But they have no control over how those primaries are conducted. If the state of New Hampshire wants an open primary, they get an open primary.

MCCAIN WAS TOO MUCH LIKE OBAMA

.....Except for abortion (which McCain didn't talk about) and the war (which McCain talked too much about) there was little to seperate the two ...Obama even outdid McCain on "tax cuts" ...

.....Now they have had their post election tete-a-tete and are promising to work together to fix the Country ...is there any wonder why McCain lost? .....COLOSSUS

GOP Lessons In Losing
When 80% of Americans hate the current President because of his endless warmongering, run a war hero candidate.

When 80% of Americans hate amnesty, run the champion of amnesty candidate.

When your opponent has a $billion in crooked money, insist on personally adhering to suicidal campaign finance restrictions.

When your only advantage is experience, pick a running mate with very little.

When you are trying to emphasize the differences between the candidates, pick a candidate who is the closest in liberal philosophy to the opponent.

When the media is giving $millions in free assistance to the opposition, pick a candidate who used to be their favorite, so they can safely ignore him.


liberal leaning media
You gotta get the remote control out and try watching the evening news. McCain was given equal time on those news channels and they broadcast as many of his speeches at his rallies as they did Obamas. When they analyzed the campaign promises and attacks, they had both liberals and conservatives discuss the candidates. You gotta get out and about more often.
I am familiar with McCain's relationship with Keating the millionaire with whom McCain hung out with and the investigation in the 70's. That was part of the Savings and Loan collapse that was costly but not as costly as this housing collaspe and banks out of control problem has been. I kept waiting for the campaign to pounce on that episode in McCains past but Obama never brought it up and VERY few of the TV news media even discussed it.

The usual attack dog approach with conservatives ...attack liberals and the mainstream media and try to foster sympathy for your side of politics.


The lefties love seeing us "fight"
They are rejoicing because they hope it means that the right is weak. I see it as a sign of strength. We will overcome the problems in the Republican party through this discourse. We will decide to stop showing support to our "elder statesmen" who have gone soft on the issues and don't have the stomach for the way we are going to have to fight in the emerging America. The rules have changed.

So, let them sneer. At least we aren't afraid to deal with our issues. Maybe that's what they are secretly afraid of. TRUTH + STRENGTH = Future Victory.

simple math
It's interesting to read all the posts on here. No matter what most of you may think, republicans did not lose because of the media. You have a message that appeals mostly to rural and less educated whites and that voter demographic is shrinking. If the party doesn't find a way to appeal to younger voters and minorities, it is going to be in the minority forever. It's simple math - if 90% of blacks and 70% of Latinos are voting for the democrat, the republicans cannot win. The country is changing. Bashing latinos (as talk radio does everyday) is political suicide. Latinos are the fasting growing demographic in the country. If the GOP doesn't separate itself from the talk radio crowd that blames everything on the "illegals" and "amnesty", its not going to win anymore presidential elections. It's simple math.

Obama used the internet
The days of campaigning exclusively on the airwaves to get a campaign message out to the masses have passed. 2008 was only awake-up call so now it is time to modernize the Republican party or allow conservatives to have their own party. This is only one of many conservative web sites, so we are in this form of media already. It is that campaigns must format the inclusion of the internet in all campaign related material.
No market tested republican in name only candidates. No more candidates that support any form of abortions,gay marriage, flag burning, nor bailouts, labor unions, coporate welfare, welfare. Small government with the closing of all non-essential agenies, wasteful departments including on the Cabinet level departments.

The ''meltdown'' looks to have been...
--
...timed and triggered by the National Socialist (nee "Democrat") Party.

Let's not have any "conspiracy theory" nonsense here. Look at the way the financial market crisis peaked as a perfect "October Surprise" and consider the actions of one scumbucket National Socialist named Chuck Schumer.

Anybody remember the "run" on California's IndyMac earlier this year, after Schumer uttered his letter in late June? Chuckie-baby - from New York - triggered a $1.3 billion bank run in California, and thus "the second largest bank failure in US history." (Jerry Bowyer).

In recent years, this gun-grabbing mamzer has also been one of the key resisters against the sorts of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac reforms that would've *prevented* the subprime mortgage crisis that peaked so conveniently for the National Socialists in the months just preceding the election.

Does this or does this not have the look and smell of a National Socialist Reichstag Fire?





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"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Already they have raised up a money aristocracy that has set the government at defiance. The issuing power should be taken from the banks, and restored to the people to whom it properly belongs."

-- Thomas Jefferson

Being "Liberal Light" does not work.
I find that if you are going to get the same policies, it is pointless to vote for liberal light, aka moderates. You get the same results and all the blame on the wrong group.

Plausible explanation
I believe it was last night on TV that I saw
a congregation of media people being interviewed.

Someone asked why the press is so biasted. One
of the participants said that it really wasn't
bias, it was that educated people tended to
vote Democrat, and the vast majority of the
press were educated well above the average citizen.

Works for me.

Cat's Meow: What a sad and pathetic case you
are. You won't support the President but you
will "erroneously" try to figure out just what
percentage of what race he is. That borders
on sicko.

sjpatejak
first of all, what is a "sistuh", you ignorant moron. What do you now want me to counter back with some derogatory insult for white folks? I'm above that.

You don't know if I'm black, white, male or female - further, should it change my opinion of your post? because it doesn't. and the link and when blacks first appeared on earth and everything else has nothing to do with the conversation, so F you. Like I said before, if Republicans wanna know why their party is losing steam, they can point to idiots like you who invoke ignorance with every conversation. Nobody needed a lesson in Lineology.

Mario
Hey Mario bag of donuts - go read some bloggers over at dailykos the last 4 years and get back to me on whiners and sore losers.

Enough said. And OBama won for one reason and one reason only - the September Surprise. Without, McCain wins the Independents, does not lose 18% of Republicans who crossed over, and keeps many of the Latino vote who are values oriented anyhow.

the solution
....is and always will be limited Fed gov. as it has been since Jefferson first penned the opinion of it in the 18th century.

Gov. programs and the bureaucracies they create become evergreen - and mostly ineffective. They are the closest thing we will ever see to eternal life here on earth.

So, when the Fed Gov decides it knows better than the people what is best for them, those people get screwed in the end.

The Fed Gov. is no replacement for he private sector, not as efficient, and the pandering Dems that are proponents of this type of gov. do so for one reason - to get votes.


tmr - lowercase intentional
.....to illustrate your dim intellect.

1.McCain lost because he didn't campaign as a Conservative, and because of the GIFT of the September Surprise received courtesy of the banking meltdown. McCain was leading in the polls before that happened. Remember? That is the only reasn Obama won. You Dems cannot expect a gift like that every four years - which is why you lost 7 of 10 leading up to this election.

2. Republicans sought a shrinking base of older males. You mean 65 and over old? Or the 35+ crowd - the ones that are many times described as a liberal at 20 because they wish to have a heart; and many of whom become Conservative at 35 because to not be one shows a lack of head? There is nothing wrong with our base population as it constantly gets replenished with people who get smart as they get older. And, 18% of registered Rep. crossed over to Obama. Won't happen again on Conservative message.

3. Palin energized the Conservative base you dolt. Please explain the 10K to 15K crowds she drew everywhere? Because no one liked her?

4. You write Obama is stratospherically intelligent? Wow. You mean the guy that said there were 57 states in the U.S.? You write OBama will represent the U.S. well internationally? Why is that tmr? Because Obama will accomodate Europe and others where Bush would not because an issue conflicts with the best interests of the U.S.? You are naive.

Back to class with you to learn more from your stupid lib profs!

And thank you for your support of the Republican Party!

People like you, and leaders in the Dem party that think like you, will make it easy for us in 2010 and 2012!

BE the Loyal Opposition, part 2
While I as a center left liberal am happy Obama won, I don't want to see an ineffective Republican party for 8 years. Neither do many liberals to the left of me, such as Huffington.

Times are too perilous and we are fighting 2 wars. We need fresh NEW ideas from the right as well as the left. You don't believe me, but that is what Obama wants as well.

By fresh new ideas I mean something other than the worn out mantra that Government is the problem, not the solution. Well, if it isn't, than WHAT IS the SOLUTION??? No one believes it is just ignoring problems and wringing your hands until the depression and the wars are over.

We already know republicans and conservatives don't like Obama. Slandering him and calling him names, pretending he stole the election, and calling him a communist, gets you about as far as we got by calling GW Bush stupid and Cheney a monster. It offers no new solutions to Americans. It gets you absolutely NOWHERE. We figured that out. You need to learn this sooner rather than later.

PROPOSE SOMETHING NEW! Your country is waiting for your IDEAS not your whining.

Ken 92-Keep moving right
Just a thought.

I would like to challenge you to spend some time visiting-yes attending 5 or 6 Sundays-a church like mine and so many others. You seem to have learned your stereotypes very well, including the one about abortion-doctor-killing, which is tired and old.

So, my challenge to you would be to find a "community" church-possibly a large one, with contemporary worship music-or a friendly small church in your area-and give these people a good look and a chance. Look at their children and how they behave. Listen to the sermon and decide for yourself if it is hateful. See what they do for community outreach.

Then reevaluate your stereotypes. Get some first-hand exposure, you won't be disappointed either way.

The answer is to be the loyal opposition
This article is mainly sour grapes, offering few real suggestions for the GOP.

Point 1: You are just wrong. The right wing OWNS talk radio for heaven's sake. Limbaugh, Hannity, and many others heaped lavish praise on McCain/Palin. What good did it do you? None because they had no message other than Obama was BAD. You need a positive message that people OTHER THAN THE BASE respond to and see in it real solutions to their problems, not just continuation of them.

Point 2. So what if campaign finance “reform” did not work for Republicans. If you have a broad base of people who believe in your message you can raise just as much as Obama can. But it won't do you any good unless you have a real message. See Point 1.

Point 3. Latinos aren republicans only problem. McCain did worse than Bush in 2004 in nearly every demographic group other than undereducated white men. Face it. You can't win presidential elections without votes from women, minorities of every type (not just Latinos), technologists, rich business men (yes you LOST votes among THEM too!) and the college educated. Palin alienated nearly every one of these groups while appealing to "the base" and McCain was barely tolerated by them.

Point 4 that “Mavericks” end up leading a party of one is pure baloney. Obama IS A CASE IN POINT. HE was a maverick at the beginning of his campaign. ALL THE SMART money was on Clinton and her marvelous party machinery, supporters, and war chest. OBAMA the maverick came up through the caucuses and overtook the front runner to tear the nomination out of Clinton's grasp. Not all that different from McCain vs. Romney, Huckabee, et. al. come to think about it.


purplegraze
Evidently you didn't read the website I attached to my posting. The single drop of blood rule was the way they decided race in the Jim Crow south.

Humans first appeared in Africa 100,000 years ago and didn't migrate out until 50,000 years ago. The average person has about 5 quarts of blood, so presumably everyone has at least one drop of black blood. So get down and boogie, sistuh

Consider these four reasons ...
1. McCain et al were campaining for the previous election, not the last one. By making the "war on terror" the issue, and not the economy and by missing out on promising hope and change, they were sitting ducks for the cathartic reaction of the electrorate against Bush.
2. The Republicans sought a shrinking base, older, white, male voters, and did not create their own electrorate, as did Obama. The use
McCain use of the Internet was woefully inadequate and a signal failure.
3. McCain's choice of Sarah Palin as running mate was a sign of a serious lack of judgement. This whacko provincial conservative repelled many voters.
4. Bad Luck. Obama is young, black, stratospherically intelligent and ran a disciplined, flawless campaign. He will represent the United States well internationally. If the polls have it, Obama has been elected Prime Minister of Canada and Chancellor of Germany.



Lessons Learned in Election - One More
One thing you left out is countering the takeover of educational institutions by the left. This is indoctrinating the young with a world view that denigrates convervative views. It starts even with elementary education (thanks in part to Bill Ayers) and is totally pervasive in higher ed. It is ridiculous that the best-educated Americans supported Obama and Democrats. To counter this is going to take a lot of effort and time. Parents should find out what is being taught in their childrens' schools and attempt to influence what is being taught. If not, find another school or home school (perhaps with a group of other parents that could contribute their own fields of knowledge to teach particular subjects). Alumni should find out what is going on at their alma mater, threaten to stop (and ultimately stop) contributions and send their children elsewhere if the faculty has gone the way of Columbia, Harvard and many other once-fine institutions. Employers should make it known that they will no longer hire graduates from such colleges, and try instead of identify and reward graduates of colleges that offer a non-biased curriculum. Conservatives can't compete so long as the war of ideas is stacked so much against them by the nation's educational elite.

Tim @ 12:38 wrote
"80 Percent of Americans oppose The Bailout Scam, but McCain gave no alternative To The Bush Administration Bailout"

McCain-Feingold, McCain-Kennedy, McCain-Lieberman formed the bulk of his coffin.

His habit of otherwise poking conservatives in the eye over the past 8 years closed the lid.

Playing footsie with the media for several years then not reacting properly when they turned on him sealed the coffin, and his handling of the economic crisis was the final nail.

R.I.P. John McCain

Jim

P.S. When you reach across the aisle, you are supposed to shake the other person's HAND!

Bush lost the GOP the election
Can we admit that Obama didn't really win the election? Granted he got more votes, but the truth is people we voting as much against the Bush administration than for Obama. THAT is why the GOP was beaten up in the last two elections. Until the GOP really comes to understand that and how to avoid it in future administrations, a lot of people in the center will be reluctant to vote for GOP candidates.

Jay @ 8:00am wrote
"The infestation of our country by the latinos is the #1, overriding reason why Republicans are doomed."

Flagged as offensive. Turds like you give conservatives a bad name. Take your racist elsewhere. You are not wanted here.

Jim



Reporters and editors
are all indoctrinated in Leftist idiology during their college years. No longer is "reporter" a profession possible for someone who has had to leave another profession due to ill health, etc, and so has some real world experience, most of them are foolish college kids who start working for other foolish college grads, and are immersed in what other foolish college grads write in other cities. They simply do not hear any point of view from outside their little clique.

how many more a** whuppins will it take?
Or, to put it another way, how long will the GOP wander lost and forlorn in the wilderness?

Judging by Liebau and many responses to her piece, it may yet take a while, perhaps decades...assuming the party will survive in such a decrepit state for that long(which is doubtful).

Though coming from different directions, Redlac and Lon each speak truisms here, but of course are ignored.

The Goldwater/Reagan model of traditional conservatism, which espoused limited government, separation of church and state, and emphasis upon private initiative, has been hijacked by a fanatical band of social conservatives who are hellbent to ram their agenda onto the people of our Beloved Republic.

Goldwater never had any use for social conservatives, period. It was not for nothing that he is the father of true American conservatism.

Reagan enraged social conservatives when he nominated Sandra Day O'Connor to the Court. He knew they would pitch a hissy fit, but did it anyway.

This party has to come to grips with where it wants to go.

Increasingly, social conservatives are out of sych with a majority of Americans, who view them as intolerant and extreme.

The party can choose to placate the ones who make the most noise, the social conservatives, or it can expand its vision, addressing the concerns of most Americans.

The moment of truth has arrived.

Campaign finance reform?
McCain was ironically hampered by the very laws he helped to pass.
Not smart.

true conservatives, please stand up.
I've seen many mentions of how McCain and Bush are unworthy of the lofty conservative brand. Well, I would love to know who is a true conservative and worthy of the label, then. Is it Palin? Is it Romney? WHO? Everyone is talking about how the GOP needs leaders to articulate its message, but I am starting to despair that there are any options. At least, any that the GOP can rally themselves around without spewing more venom than they do at the liberal illuminati.

THE AGE OF AQUARIUS

.....Click on my name to read my synopsis on the election of Obama ...comments welcome ...thanks! .....COLOSSUS

Re: "The Unique Threat of John McCain"

CAROL PLATT LIEBAU in her column today writes "As soon as McCain won the nomination – and became by default the most socially conservative choice for president – The New York Times unloaded all over him..."

Nothing the Times and other MSM wrote about John McCain could compare to the relentless, stinging criticisms leveled at McCain by Ultra Conservative columnists and commentators the likes of Ann Coulter, Michelle Malkin, Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, Mona Charen, David Limbaugh, Ronald Kessler, et al.

Compositely speaking, these powerful and influential Ultra Conservatives during the Republican primaries labeled McCain a mentally unstable overage anti-conservative liberal liar. Not exactly the most favorable of critiques.

Ironically, Liebau's reservations about John McCain's candidacy were contained in her Jan. 28, 2008 Town Hall column entitled, "THE UNIQUE THREAT OF JOHN McCAIN," in which Liebau wrote, "a McCain presidency with a Democratic Congress, conservatives risk becoming irrelevant."

As the 2008 Presidential election results would suggest, Ultra Conservatives' ferocity and unbending attitudes threaten to make Ultra Conservatives irrelevant.

Needed a conservative..
We needed to elect a conservative to the republican party. McCain is not.

A blessing in disguise?
Obama offered "change and hope" (whatever that is) to those looking for something to vote for. McCain offered what? I can still hear the echoes of laughter from McCain's "I'm a conservative Republican" comment. My wife got excited when Palin was selected as McCain's running mate, but I never could see her as a viable selection other than her "maverick" track record. She may prove to be a worthy candidate in the future, but she'll need to get up to speed on issues. She would have benefitted from decent campaign handlers, but the post-election backstabbing shows the kind of management team McCain had. Bottom line: McCain lost because voters didn’t have something to vote for...other than he wasn’t Obama. Okay, I'll confess I voted for McCain because I fear the probable Supreme Court nominees Obama will proffer. But I wasn’t motivated to contribute time and money this time around. Maybe the election results will turn out to be a blessing in disguise. I'll end with a quote from my wife, "I won't forget what Crist and Martinez did to bolster McCain over Romney two days before the Florida primary." (The wife is the Republican in the house; I'm a Libertarian that watched the primary from the sideline.)

Maybe
True, we can't out-Democrat the Democrats and we have to win over a hostile press. However, the Republican Party has also not been a good representative of conservatism. Here are some additional thoughts

http://inyourrightmind.blogtownhall.com/2008/11/14/republic an_rehab.thtml

sjpatejak...polluted?
I see, so one is "polluted" if they have even one drop of black blood in them according to you. wow. that's an incredibly prejudice and mean statement.

I'm surprised you can type with that hood on.

Obama has been called many things, now he's polluted. Another new name given to him by Republicans. Then they wonder why their party is dying. Incredible.

Statrt to Think Seriously
For those who think that closing the primary would have meant something different this year, I say BALONEY; you need to start to think seriously. John McCain would have won the nomination anyway in closed primaries; and if he had not, whatever candidate you think would have won the nomination would have been clobbered by a far greater margin in the general election. The polls were showing only McCain as competitive this year against Obama and Hillary, with everyone else losing by well over 10 points and with Romney coming out the worst. Also, the loss this year was due to what may fairly be called "headwinds" that would have precluded any GOP candidate from winning: (i) the financial meltdown, which caused economic anxieties that has historically favored Democrats and did this year; (ii) the financial bailout, which muddied the waters of what was a Reaganesque message out on the campaign trial delivered by McCain and Palin; (iii) the unpopularity of George W. Bush, which is unfair but which was the consequence of not using the bully pulpit to defend his Adminsitration and Republicans; (iv) money is the milk of politics and Obama had a lot more of it, some of it illegal; and (v) absurd media bias that operated day in, day out as propagandists for Obama. Also, typical "tail winds" for us did not blow: (i) national security and military matters; (ii) strong economy based on freedom and energy independence; and (iii) strong socail values. The economic fears trumped all. Yet, before the meltdown, McCain-Palin were ahead in the polls. So instead of lamenting what did not matter this year, start focusing on what should be the GOP message that will win elections in the future and deal with some of the "headwinds" that aren't going away.

To McSame 2008 Dems will stay in power
"Dems will stay in power for generations".

You'll be lucky to last 2 years. Nothing guarantees political success like having the opposite party in power. Just like Bush and the Republicans the Labor Party in Britain is suffering a similar fate. The Democrats and Obama will start to use up political capital when they use your tax dollars for the large bailout of the Auto Industry, mainly to pay back political favors to Organized labor, including the United Auto Workers, who invested heavily in Mr. Obama's campaign. This will be followed by passage of the of the Employee Free Choice Act in the first 100 days of his administration, which would make it harder for companies to fight union-organizing drives. These 2 initial acts will be extremely unpopular by themselves, and if Obama is foolish enough to raise taxes resulting in further liquidity deficits then his Presidency will be done and his remaining time in office will largely be unproductive as his frightened Democratic brethren desert him in droves. Think it can't happen. Bush Sr. Approval ratings fell from 89% to 29% in a little over a year. Will see if Obama and the Democratic Congress will improve on the Democratic Congress current 21% Approval rating in 6 months.

Hispanics
You're never going to win them over as long as certain conservatives keep on crying how Hispanics are all dirty, lazy criminals who breed like rabbits and want to turn California and Texas back to Mexico. Michelle Malkin even blames them for the mortgage crisis.

Sheryl: If Obama is polluted by so much as single drop of black blood he is totally black. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/jefferson/mi xed/onedrop.html

Good points
But you didn't go quite far enough in point no. 1. It is not just the press who will favor the candidate which is less socially conservative. The American middle will not support a candidate whose political beliefs include prosecution of socially conservative causes. We don't want a religious crusader. We don't want the vicious meanness of the talk-radio attack dogs who call everyone who doesn't agree with them an unamerican terrorist. Until the GOP stops being associated with either of these, it will not garner a majority.

Shaping our future
As has been mentioned...we must close our primarys to registered Republicans only....and NEVER NEVER let the press select our nominee again.Secondly..campaigns are not about finding and crafting a message that persuades voters.What made Sarah Palin so exciting was ..she is who she is...a true Conservative.She believes what she says.She isn't shaping her personna based on marketing group feedback.Lastly...Conservative need to take control of all the levers of power in the Republican party.Conservative need to organize using the internet and television(perhaps a Freedom channel) to focus our electorate energise our base.This is a time for cleansing...focusing..and providing an outlet for conserned Conservative americans who want never again to experience what happened in the past several elections.

Lost at the primary
As at least two others have aleady pointed out, it is in the primary that the fates were sealed. We must close the primary process.
The other comments are all worthy of some debate. However, that is all aafter the wrong horse got out of the barn.
TH'ers were hot on fire against McCain BEFORE the primary. That nugget of history points the way.

Getting Latino vote
It is going to be decades before you get a significant share of the Latino vote with a message of "hard work and limited government will benefit you most." A majority of Latinos in this country right now are poor, or have poor relatives. I have been poor, and I know it can affect your political thinking. When you are poor, you are most interested in someone, ANYONE, who seems to recognize your plight and seems to want to do something about it.

Once you become better off and have some money or a business, property, etc., then you are more interested in policies that will help you hang on to what you have.

More and more Latinos will begin to build wealth the longer they are in the U.S., and more of them will become financially and politically conservative. But that won't happen before 2012.

I'm not poor now because I accepted Jesus Christ as my Savior, and I aim to live within God's will. God has made it possible for me to prosper and excel in my profession. I now look at political leaders through the prism of which will be most likely to lead in a manner consistent with a manner that is pleasing to God. (P.S. God loves us; obedience to him and his word, as detailed in the bible, is most important to him. Also, the person who talks about hell the most in in the bible is Jesus. Read for yourself if you don't believe me!)


valid points
The party as a whole, however, will have to stop blaming the media.

There are aspects of so-called conservatism that I am in 100% agreement with. Other aspects not so much. However I cannot imagine being part of any "group" that has an allegiance or association with people like Rush Limbaugh or Sean Hannity. To me, these two are hateful and wreckless to not mention insulting to anyone who doesn't believe or accept their view of America, and I find them extremely unappealing. Both are part of the mainstream media and have a very large following and effect on the electorate.

Republicans moan and groan about the media, but they have their own wolves out there devouring anything a Democrat does. And Obama has been especially demonized. Perhaps as a complete revolt for the media's overall affection for him, which is more on them than Obama himself. Because of his charisma and outstanding oratory skills, Obama has become the media's love child; however the Republicans with their own army of voices like Limbaugh, Hannity, Savage and others have been just as effective for those that lean on every word they say. People who are not attracted to that extreme talk will never side with Republicans - even if their views are similar - because these voices are so polarizing. This is at least why I feel as if there's no place for a person like me amongst republicans who (based on my knowledge) would be considered more of a center-right person.

Good analysis, but...
Ms. Liebau is correct so far as she goes, but has left out one or two crucial items.

1) Unless nationwide voucher legislation, or something similar, decouples school administration and curricula from certified teachers' colleges and the teachers' unions, the Republican party has no future in America. Public schools, through progressive domination of curriculum development and teacher training, have become indoctrination machines for progressive politics. Until this is broken, America is not a Democratic nation, but increasingly a neo-Stalinist, Marxian nation.

2) Outreach to black and Latino voters cannot become effective without conservative-influenced news sources replacing or displacing existing mainstream coverage. The mainstream press is a non-stop source of anti-Republican propaganda. Republicans will have little influence among those groups until this changes, or until Republican grass-roots coverage of those voter groups so dominates as to counteract constant propaganda.

Socially conservative core values have a great deal of support in the black and Latino communities. These can be reached by grass-roots activism and won to the conservative cause. It cannot be done by traditional means; it can be done by one-on-one contact.

(Unrelated to this topic, please visit my political blog, "Plumb Bob Blog," at http://www.plumbbobblog.com. Thanks.)

Cont'd
Conservative principals regarding the role of government and of economics are timeless. But social issues change. The US of today has very little in common with the US of the 70's and 80's.

The focus on Obama, an individual who appears far more liberal than a majority of the public, conceals a harsher truth. And that truth is that the election was as close as it was precisely because of this fact. If the Democrats had run a more traditional moderate - it could easily have been far worse.

To pretend that 46% support the GOP ignores the fact that some of that 46% do not support the GOP. They simply did not support Obama.

Today, only 30% of the public identifies itself as a Republican.

And that says much about the state of the GOP at this time. It either redefines its' message to broaden its appeal - taking into consideration the very real changes that have transpired in the US since the time of Reagan, or it will have no hope of recovering its' majority status.

This does not mean that it could not win a Presidential campaign if it nominated someone more acceptable to 51% of the voters than the Democratic alternative - but this not the same issue as becoming a majority party.

FDR forged a majority party, and the shifting landscape in the US now favors the Democrats.

Too Much Focus on Obama
The economy moved enough voters to give Obama the election. However, the economy did not give all of the increases in the house and senate to the Democrats, as a number of those races were never in doubt. You cannot rebuild the GOP unless you first recognize that the Democrats have built a stronger base at the state level, and that the votes of the young, blue-collar workers, of women, blacks, and hispanics are changing the election map. Among other things, the GOP now controls both branches of the state legislatures in only 14 states. Further, the Democrats have been rebuilding their own more conservative wing, even as the GOP has been shrinking and losing its' moderate wing to the Democrats.

The Reagan era is gone. Indeed, since Reagan's last election in 1984, 35% of those alive at that time are gone, and another 30% of the people alive when he left office were under 21 and had never voted. 65% of the public has grown up with Roe v. Wade, Medicare, Social Security, Medicaid, and a wide range of Central Government programs - and never known anything else. Fewer than 10% have any connection to WWII, 1/3 of the population is non-white, and that number is growing to 50%. The role of women in society has changed forever. Women have become full working partners, white families have less than 2 children, and a majority of women now believe that they, not the state, should make the decision on whether or not they birth and raise a child - and have never known anything else.


Hard Lessons...
1. It is impossible for any Republican presidential candidate to garner favorable mainstream media coverage, so long as s/he represents the more socially conservative electoral choice.
False…look at the success of “Talk Radio” and the fair-balance coverage of “Fox News”. Anything else has only been a failure. Why should Republicans want biased media coverage?


2. Campaign finance “reform” will always have a disproportionately negative impact on Republicans.
False …the negative impacts of finance reform effects both parties. Yet the Democrats found ways around it and the Republicans did not.


3. Republicans can’t win over Latinos through appeals on the illegal immigration issue.
False …only the illegal Latinos, while the majority of legal Latinos want illegal immigration to stop.


4. “Mavericks” end up leading a party of one.
False…only Mavericks that compromise their values and principles end up leading a party of one. While Mavericks that emphasize their values and principles in choosing to do the “Right Thing” regardless of politics are true Mavericks and can lead the majority to discover, what is “Right” and what is “Wrong”.


another clueless Conservative
you lost Hispanics because McSame went against his immigration reform, after he was for it. Keep moving to the right, Conservatives, please, so Dems will stay in power for generations. Ignore the moderates, like by picking Palin, just try and placate the religious nuts, and you see what you get. Some southern states, Idaho, Wyoming and Kansas. Good luck.

Successful Elections
Running weak candidates usually leads to electoral failure. History should tell the Republicans that a party that runs clumsy, clueless, directionless candidates such as Dukakis, Dole & McCain will not win over a lot of voters. The key lesson this year is that McCain was NOT a good candidate. He could not deliver a coherent message. He was clumsy and indecisive in the debates. He could not think on his feet. He acted like a total fool during the bailout fiasco. As a so-called 'maverick' he, by definition, has few if any principles. A Maverick simply lurches from left to right and back again like a potato truck with bad steering! If Republicans want to win they must find minimally competent candidates. They might also try NOT being democrats - Norm Coleman take a hint!

You left out some lessons
1. Support your candidate 100% in a Presidential election. 2. If there is a run off between two Democrats, do not split up the support of the Republican candidate with that of a Democrat of your choice. 3. Do not send Republicans and Conservatives to vote for a Democrat under any circumstances. 4. Do not attack the Republican candidate as much as the Democrats do. 5. Do not adopt the Democrat candidate as a Republican sweetheart and give them air time and support on a 24/7 basis. 6. Do not feel as if the world came to an end when the Democrat of your choice lost the nomination and the one you oppose got the nomination. It's a Democrat issue. 7. Do not tell voters if your candidate that you wanted didn't get the nomination, but the one your oppose, that you will vote for a Democrat to be President. We all have lessons to learn, don't you think. Especially those we hear from the most over the air waves. They could use some lessons on supporting the Republican nominee.

ONE HARD LESSON OF THE 2008 CAMPAIGN

.....McCain was the wrong candidate ...he was not a true conservative and bragged about opposing his own Party ...only Sarah Palin kept his campaign from being a complete disaster and embarrassment ...

.....Don't fall into the trap of over analyzing minutae ...just run solid conservatives who stand on principle and are trustworthy .....COLOSSUS

Good lessons
I hope the republicans take these lessons to heart. That way the democrats can continue to run the country.

Remember you didn't demonize hispanics enough. You lost because the media was so mean to you and not because you had eight years in power and made a mess of every aspect of it. You lost because you did not have an energized enough base, not because the base does not contain enough votes to win elections.

GOP NEEDS TO NOMINATE CONSERVATIVES

.....McCain was not a Conservative, neither was GW or his father ...

.....Conservatism needs to be Social, Fiscal and political to win elections ...

.....Independents have no Party loyalty ...they will vote for the person they like and trust ...

.....The RNC has dropped the ball by supporting too many RINOs ...Arlen Specter comes to mind .....COLOSSUS

P.S.
Forget about the Latinos. Insert into the RNC plank Fed. enforcement of English as the only language, shut down our borders, and deport illegals.

They'll come after a few cycles because they are values voters.

We do not need them.


Worst Election. Republicans innocent.
It is time to shut down the Democratic Party's unethical workings. The crimes against our voting procedures and proud traditions of this countrywere shameful this election. I really do not believe OBAMA is the president because of all of the cheating that went on. I do not believe he was elected at all. People are finding votes in their car trunks. Have the Democrats turned us into KENYA? I would be absolutely embarassed to call myself a Democrat. The media is worse than pitiful. These media people have not been educated they have been brainwashed. We need to fire all professors that teach about politics instead of the subject they are being paid to teach. How many looser labor unions are forcing us out of the competitive market. How many insane, corrupt, lying green people have been promised that our factories will put out products that no one will buy. Our companies legs are being broken by environmentalist and union mobsters. People in towns across America are suffering as a result. How many Christians were fooled by the invasion into the Church of Jim Wallis's Emergent Church Communist Propaganda COmmonGood Social Justice Crap. Now Christians will have to live with the blood of innnocent babies on their hands. If Latinos are coming here simply to vote in welfare payments for themselves on promises of Democrats then they can leave now. The only people that should be welcome are those that understand what it means to be an American and desire to be Americans. We do not want to change to be like their failed cultures. Every evil this country faces is due to the DEMOCRATS. I have had enough.

Solutions
Good article. So what are the solutions?
1. Stop giving the media such easy fodder. McCain's campaign was so negative, we just sat and watched the implosion. It wasn't that we saw more positive on Obama, we just did not see a lot of him, until the last few weeks when he went negative. When you are talking positive, talking about moving our country forward, it rarely makes news and when it does, it is good.
2. Campaign reform can work FOR Republicans, if they can learn to work within the system. The only reason McCain accepted public money was because he HAD to; not enough in coffers (and whose fault was that? Republican's who didn't donate )
3. Want Latino votes and still hold to Republican principles on illegal immigration? Examine current procedures on how to LEGALLY immigrate and try to improve those. Imagine all those that are currently trying to do the right thing to get into this country and can't because of illegals. Pave their way and you will have their support. Also, focus on WHY illegals are coming and remove that 'prize'. In other words, start levying hefty fines on EMPLOYERS who hire illegals. Employers will continue to hire illegals until it is no longer financially fiscal to do so.
4.Not much to add. "Mavericks" rarely make great LEADERS. Having a great leader that SURROUNDS himself with some mavericks is better. This is the problem with Palin. She always surrounded herself with "yes men". No one is always 100% correct in their thinking. It is a wise leader that wants, listens to, and then evaluates an opposing view.

Lessons
This election had nothing to do with how far left or right the candidates were. It had nothing to with Bush and the his economic growth that was very similar to BJ (Bill Jefferson) Clinton's GDP and unemployment numbers in the 90s.

Bush came into office in recession, had 9/11 8 months later and another blow to the economy, yet the Bush tax cuts stimulated very good economic expansion for 4 years after enacted.

BJ Clinton's economic miracle had ZERO to do with BJ Clinton. He presided over an unprecedented TECH BOOM that expanded the economy, created jobs, and sent the stock market on a huge runup. Bush did not have this luxury.

Back to this recent election - it had nothing to do with message. Obama had no message. He had slogans: hope and change and a perception of tax cuts for all - except for business.

It had EVERYTHING to do with the perception of many the Dem would be better in fixing the economy - the GIFT given to Obama courtesy of the September Surprise meltdown - which we Republicans are going to make the Dems in Congress own is short order (write your Cong and Sens and demand they call hearings to investigate these Dems like Dodd, Schumer, Barney Frank, etc.) because they do own it.

McCain was leading until the meltdown hit.

You all cannot have a GIFT like that every election. The Republican message wins - as proved by the fact since our last entry into the "wilderness years", after the loss in the '64 LBJ landslide (a true landslide; Obama did not have a landslide), we have WON 7 of 10.

I hope Dem leaders will be as as over-confident as the stupid libs posting here in TH.

Thank you for your support TH libs! We win if your leadership is as dumb as you in 2010 and 2012!

Learn to govern
Republicans need to learn to be good managers of facts and money. In the last 8 years, they have persuaded the electorate that they are poor managers.

It's not an RNC issue
It's a state issue. Each state runs it's own election it's own way - while some guidelines are overseen by the Federal Elections Commission. There is no uniformity.

But I agree, if you're state allows ANYONE to vote in the primaries, it could block a real conservatives chance of being elected, in which case, the party is NOT electing the best candidate for that position.

We need to resolve one other issue
Can a person be pro-choice and be a member fo the Republican Party? If this issue is not resolved, the new GOP will not get off the ground.

WRONG!!!

The very premise of this article is WRONG!! Reagan stated the republican principles very well and won in a landslide. DUH! And the republicans have been going away from those principles since then. What did that accomplish? One Bush (41)who was quickly found out ti be a liar and thrown out at the very next election. A second Bush who won more because even some democrats could not support his opponents and then went on to prove himself to be his father's son by trashing Regan princilpes and doing the exact opposite of them.

Obama won the same way Bush 43 won; some republicans did not vote because of the candidate their party was running. We thought the democrat couldn't be any worse because we didn't see a lot of difference in their stated policies, none of which espoused the conservative principles of Reagan.

The republicans just DON'T GET IT! They can't win without the Christain conservative base and when their candidate attacks that base like McLame has ALWAYS done his entire time in congress, we ARE NOT going to vote for that candidate. The democrats win by default. I don't care who their candidate is or is not. If that candidate does not CLEARLY DEFINE conservative principles, that candidate is GOING TO LOSE.

Blame the news media. Blame Jerry Fawell. Blame Pat Roberson. Blame the NRA. They can blame whomever they want but the blame rests squarely on their shoulders for having abandoned the conservative principles that have proven to result in landslide vistories. As long as republicans preach this "MODERATE" line, they are GOING TO LOSE. There isn't anything "moderate" about freedom. There are enough of us in this country who will settle for anything less to keep the republicans out of power for as long as it takes for them to get the message that WE ARE MAD AS HELL AND WE ARE NOT GOING TO SUPPORT ANY MORE MODERATES.

PERIOD!!

I have calledout GOP on one point!
I have called members of congress and stated flat out that they should no longer speak with the NY Times, LA Times, WASH Post, networks, etc, etc. They should be considered operatives of the Left. Yes, work with friendly news services and outlets. Give press conferences but do not answer questions from rogue outlets. Their treatment of mccain (their boy!) should make any Rep law maker realize the drive by press in this country would sooner cut their balls off then see them prosper. The GOP needs to be made aware they are in a war with a real enemy...the LEFT. We should be putting them against walls, but since we cant do the (yet) we need to defeat them politically!

following Liebau into the wilderness.
Oh, mainstreet media meanies just won't give us GOPERS fair shake.

Woe is us.

It is all their fault.

Oh well, we can always lick our wounds, satiate our grief, by gorging on the tripe served up by Limbaugh at his Command Center of the Clueless.

Banish divergent opinions, banish those dreaded "mavericks".

Our doctrinaire beliefs are not subject to critical examination anyway.

Nowhere in Liebau's piece is any hint of why GOP lost in 2008.

The same forces that existed in 2008 when the GOP lost, existed in 2004 when it didn't.

Same mainstream media with its anti-gop bias, same tripe offered by talk radio.

But during that time, the nation concluded Iraq was a mistake.

But the party didn't.

Which is why it lost the 2006 congressional elections.

Residue of Iraq and Katrina, both of which conjured up perceptions of Bush administration incompetence, merged with this economic meltdown and created an atmosphere where no republican was going to win the presidency in 2008.

Americans identified economic collapse, loss of purchasing power, loss of equity in their homes and portfolios, skyrocketing gas prices, bitter aftertaste of a war gone wrong, with the Republicans.

It is a bit too convenient to blame it on McCain or mavericks.

McShamnesty
McCain lost my vote and my financial backing when he not only backed the amnesty bill but then called those of us who opposed it mentally ill! I emailed his campaign then and told it I would never vote for him or give him a red cent. Of course, at the time I could not forsee that he would be running against a Marxist. So, I voted for Sarah and decided McCain could come with her. And this maverick business was only to poke George Bush in the eye for beating him last time. As for how McCain ran his campaign, it was pretty lackluster for a warrior. He did not fight to win, as warriors must, he insisted on a gentleman's bout. So he put topics off limits which his campaign should have been trumpeting to the public, esp in light of the fact that the media refused to do so. So, McCain has himself to blame, and we Republicans are to blame for nominating him.

@ Jom!
Man, don't be ridiculous! Dole left because of the "Godless" add and not because of the lacrosse players whose story nobody remembers. Face the reality and responsibility, losers, there is no "Dolchstoss" legend!

Point #3 is #1
The infestation of our country by the latinos is the #1, overriding reason why Republicans are doomed. And you can thank Bush and McCain and their naive thoughts that pandering to the latinos would ever make them vote Republican. So key red states (one of whom I unfortunately live in) will just get bluer and bluer: FL, NC, NM, CO, IN.

Pat Buchanan nailed this in a recent column, to which I commented:

The "twin towers" of the ruin of the GOP: Economic Insecurity and Social Insecurity.

Let's review the bidding:
1. Bush policies of pure free trade, supported by McCain, result in massive losses of manufacturing jobs & unemployment, handing close to 100% of the votes of those displaced to the Democrats. (Read: I voted for those guys, there went my job, time for the other guys.)

2. Bush policies of virtual amnesty, supported by McCain, result in massive influxes of hispanics and other aliens, handing 80% of THOSE votes to the Democrats. (Read: I DIDN'T vote for those guys but thanks anyway suckers, the other guys promise me even MORE goodies!)

Does it take a PhD in Political science to see that this is sheer political suicide as well as sheer STUPIDITY???


THE HARD FACTS ARE:
The democrats ran a crooked campaign full of lies. It's time 'WE THE PEOPLE' demand answers before Dec 15. Write to these Judges and demand the law suits for Obama Birth cert be honored. They are playing games with our welfare.

You as citizens can individually address letters to all the Court Justices and address your concerns regarding Mr. Obama’s eligibility to serve as the President of the United States according to the requirements of Article II, Section I of the U.S. Constitution.

United States Supreme Court
1 First Street NE
Washington DC 20543

The Supreme Court Justices are as follows:
Supreme Court Justice John Stevens
Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia
Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy
Supreme Court Justice David Souter
Supreme Court Justice Thomas Clarence
Supreme Court Justice Ruth Ginsburg
Supreme Court Justice Stephen Breyer
Supreme Court Justice Samual Alito

Pride Goeth Before a Dole
There is a social reason John McCain lost: there is a schism between the Party of Palin and the Party of Senator "Liddy" Dole.

Dole is hands-off. Which means, long after it was obvious that three young men who played lacrosse for Duke University were innocent, Dole said "they may be innocent."
"May be?"

She was as out-of-touch as the Mars lander with incompatable metric vs. english measurements, or at least as confused. And she IS the problem with the party in general. Spiro Agnew (or Safire) would have described her with one word: "effete."

The same word - effete - describes several TH writers who used to have a spine, but have traded theirs for a warm place at the fireside at the country club. Effete also describes Romney, who couldn't help but get into a slapping contest with a pesky reporter. ("Pesky" is the word Romney might have used.)

But Romney isn't the problem: he's a symptom. If Romney is a symptom, Dole is the disease: Noblesse Ne Oblige. Not at all obligated. Which is why a lot of them voted for Obama.

Communicating
Without a doubt, the GOP needs leaders who can articulate the message, as some of the party illuminati are starting to realize. They must take the message to the people and circumvent the MSM, using the Internet and talk radio, if it's still around. No-brainer.

Sheryl --
Everyone makes a few typos or misspellings, but how about looking your posts over a little before hitting "Submit"? (See below.) And also -- why do you want to claim Obama as white or even half white? Let him fail as a black, as he himself describes himself!

Yes he won, by ACcepting illegal monEy, lYing, and EVADING the most important questions asked, about his birth[space]certificate, medical records[which anyone can get a Dr. to sign a pIEce of paper, for a price],the truth about his relationships with the radicals,PassPort [why the capital letters?], etc. He's a liar!!!
And I wish everyone would STOP calling him 'African American' He's NOT!!!!! He is 50%White , 42-43% Arab and ONLY 7-8% Black, and we all know it takes one to be 12% at the least to be called Black.So he is Bi-racial and of mixed-blood...NOT AFRICAN-AMERICAN.
I refuse to call him my President, He is not fit to serve this great nation and all of its heritage,as our President.

McCain Still Could Have Won But For
John McCain still could have won but for the financial meltdown and bailout. He was leading in the polls just before the financial meltdown. John McCain definitely would have won had there been any attention by the American electorate been placed on military matters, national security and foreign affairs.

English notes ...
It's "more important," not importantly, which is an adverb. And people are not "enthused." They can be, however, enthusiastic.

Carol
Great article. I appreciate your insight. I think it is solid and useful. May it take root!

Obama
Correction: he evaded the questions, I said [not evading], that was wrong.

Obama
Yes he won, by excepting illegal mony, lieing, and not evading the most important questions asked, about his birthcertificate, medical records[which anyone can get a Dr. to sign a peice of paper, for a price],the truth about his relationships with the radicals,PassPort, etc. He's a liar!!!
And I wish everyone would STOP calling him 'African American' He's NOT!!!!! He is 50%White , 42-43% Arab and ONLY 7-8% Black, and we all know it takes one to be 12% at the least to be called Black.So he is Bi-racial and of mixed-blood...NOT AFRICAN-AMERICAN.
I refuse to call him my President, He is not fit to serve this great nation and all of its heritage,as our President.

Ranger29 do you ever leave?
Hey Ranger do you ever leave? Not singing kumbaya here I see like the last time I saw your tag. Gave up that can't we all get along to attack some Townhall regulars again? You need help with your obsession to tell off GOP supporters dude.

No more open primaries, either
The biggest mistake for Republicans was having open primaries in many states, leading to the disastrous victory for John "Mr. Amnesty" McCain. Otherwise, Mitt Romney could have won and been a much more formidable opponent to Barack Obama.

McCain became the party's presidential nominee by landing numerous votes from Democrats, Independents and, most likely, illegal immigrants (thanks to aliens getting the "right" to vote while applying for drivers' licenses in several states). We have the right to pick our own candidate.

I sincerely hope that the GOP doesn't make that mistake again. NO MORE OPEN PRIMARIES, PERIOD! It's a recipe for disaster. Exhibit A: McCain, the party's sorriest candidate.
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